The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 002 - Josh Lichtenfeld

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It says preparing to live stream, but I think

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it just means that we are, uh, live streaming.

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So we'll just wait for this. Exactly. We'll wait

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for us to give us the official count. And I believe

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We are there. Welcome to week two, ladies and

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gentlemen of The Gracious Two. Week two of The

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Gracious Two. You got that right. Week two, episode

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two. There you go. So what's going on, man? Chilling,

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as always. There you go. Chillaxing, chillaxing.

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Just getting the kids to school and doing that

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kind of stuff right now. So, you know, dad mode.

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Oh, really, duty, duty. I always love that word.

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So the first three episodes, I'll be in dad mode.

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The fourth episode, I won't be in dad mode. Yes.

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On dad mode, Chad. I love it. I don't know what's

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going to be different, but whatever. Oh, you'll

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be doing the pod naked. I heard for fans. Let's

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take my shirt off. That's all hang out, hang

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out with your wing out. As they say, um, yes,

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that's my famous saying, or is a famous saying

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that I like to use. Oh, I thought you were going

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to try to claim it. I was like, damn, you invented

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that. Yeah, dude. Don't let anybody know though.

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Yeah. So, a day of remembrance yesterday, did

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you remember where you were 9 -11 -2001? Oh,

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I remember very specifically where I was. Talk

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to me. Do you want to tell that story? Please.

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So, this was in my single period and I had flown

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a girl in from Miami to hang out with me when

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I lived in Portland. Yes. And so she was supposed

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to be there. Uh, what day she, so that was on

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Tuesday, right? What day, what day was nine 11?

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I believe you're right. It was either a Monday

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or Tuesday, but for some reason I'm thinking

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Tuesday. I think it was a Tuesday. Cause she

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was supposed to leave on Wednesday. And I was

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at that point and she's a great girl and very

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nice, but I was that, you know, I was just kind

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of ready for her to go. Right. Not to be in my

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space anymore. Yeah. And so. We had a great time

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and all that stuff. But so my, my phone rings

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at six, probably 40 AM or six 45 something like

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that. Yeah. Cause I was on the, I was on the

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West coast and it's my mom and she says, you

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see what's going on? I was like, what do you

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mean? She's like turn on the TV. So we're watching

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all the shit go down. And then the second, the

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second jet hits. And then they're talking about,

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you know, all this stuff. And then all of a sudden

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they're like, yeah, shutting down national airspace.

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Yeah. At this point, it dawns on me. I just look

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over. I'm like, she's stuck here. You're like,

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God damn it. This is horrible. But I got to bring

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it back down to my microcosm. And I'm like, oh,

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no, she gets stuck here with me. Okay. So how

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did we, uh, give her the caboot, so to speak.

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Cause I think it was grounded for a couple of

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days. Yeah. I, I called in a buddy to like hang

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out with her for a little while, like around

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the house. I could just like have my own space.

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Um, and then, uh, and then like, I think by Friday

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or so she could fly again. So yeah. Yeah. Oh

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yeah. So I remember that very specifically. Yes.

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And we were actually reconnected on Facebook

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and talked about that as it's like how crazy

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that was. Yeah. You were nine 11 buddies, so

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to speak. Yeah. Yes, exactly. What now? Cause

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you said, so I guess your mom had hit you before

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the second tower hit. I mean the second plane.

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Yeah. So at that point, I mean, as far as I was

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concerned, I thought it was like a stupid drunk

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pilot or something. Like I, I wasn't really expecting

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it to be terrorism. And then once they were live

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streaming and that second plane hit, I'm like,

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oh, fuck, America is under attack. This is crazy.

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Yeah, it became pretty evident pretty fast at

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that point. It also became pretty evident that

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America unites pretty damn quickly in their resolve.

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And I've never felt as much pride to be an American,

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I would say, until like 912 2001 when it was

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like. Flags everywhere and just America, America.

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It was kind of from a shitty situation. It was

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kind of cool to see everybody in America just

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kind of hop on the same page and like fucking

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let's go get terrorism now. Oh, absolutely. That

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was amazing. I mean, that was amazing. I I love

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that, too. It was great to see. I would hope

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that if something happens like that today, the

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country would come together like that. Right.

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You know, Kamala Harris tried to. compared J6

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to 9 -11. I don't think that's the same. What

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is Jade 6? J6. January 6. Oh, sorry. I didn't

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know they had this little J6 lingo. My bad. Oh,

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sorry. Yes. She gave a speech where she compared

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the two and I'm just like, are you serious? So

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I guess my point is the country didn't rally

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around J6 the way they rallied around 9 -11.

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two totally different things. Right. Two totally

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different things. One was us like saying, Hey,

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you stole an election. The other one was us fighting

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for our freedoms. You know, saying like, uh,

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nine 11 and J six as they say are two totally

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different things. Just in my, I don't know. I

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don't know much. I'm a dumb comedian and podcaster.

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So, Hey, Hey, exactly. Oh, I know. But, uh, so

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yeah, man, I mean, it was, it was cool to see

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as a, you know, I was, I don't know, I think

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19 or somewhere, somewhere around there 20 ish.

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And it was just cool to see everybody come together

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and everybody was on the same page. And, you

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know, it was sucked that it took something like

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that to happen. But yeah, I wonder if it did

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happen today, if we would have that level of,

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um, camaraderie, or if we would still be so divisive.

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I'm not sure. Hard to say right now. It is hard

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to say. especially when you have a president

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that won't even be at the White House or at the

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ground zero to mark the occasion. Because it's

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22 years later, I heard the excuse was, well,

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they didn't go visit Pearl Harbor 22 years after

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Pearl Harbor happened. That was kind of the official

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White House excuse. That's the standard for what

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we do. This guy is like... Biden's like, it's

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totally anti -American. It's unbelievable. 22

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years ago. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Well, it's just

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crazy to me that this guy is president and acts

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like this and complete disregard for the country.

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It's unbelievable. and seems to have a pretty

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good shot at taking it over again in 2024. If,

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you know, somebody doesn't really count ballots

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or I wonder if they're going to do the whole

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everybody gets a ballot this time thing, because

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why would they not? It worked out so well for

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them last time. Yeah, it was funny. I just heard

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Tulsi Gabbard on Joe Rogan talking about how

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she lived in a house. I think in DC. and the

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old owners who were dead got ballots that year.

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Just like I told that story about my dad. My

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mom got a ballot from my dad. He was dead. So

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there's two examples, personal examples. How

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many times did that happen? And how many of those

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ballots got sent in? It's unbelievable. But my

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aunt and uncle got again, stupid friend for,

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you know, guy from live or guy from the fans

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alive who said that my mom committed election

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fraud. She did not send it in. OK, OK. Clarify

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so they could hear it clearly. She did not send

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it in. Gentlemen. But so to tell you this, so

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my aunt and uncle, they got those ballots and

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they thought it was like the. the um ballots

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the absentee ballots that you would get um if

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you if you couldn't vote so they threw theirs

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out and then once they realized that those were

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actually the ballots that they had to use they

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called up and got two brand new ones sent to

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them so right there they could have lied about

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the two ballots being lost right there's no verification

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right right they didn't have to sign an affidavit

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or anything right just right I will send you

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two new ones. Fine. Go ahead. Just to clarify,

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they threw out the original ones. They did not

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mail in four ballots. So we can not have anything

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mixed up there. Because if we talk about it and

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we're Republican conservative, we would commit

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the fraud. Yes. Not the whole other side that

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actually did it. And this is the point we're

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making. But yeah, it's OK. But it's OK. We will

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make it through. I'm watching this thing on Netflix

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that is fucking cool as hell, man. It's called

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Spy Ops. Have you heard of this? No, I'm not.

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Check it out. You are going to love it, man.

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It it gets into spies from all different sides,

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from KGB to MI6 to, you know, our CIA. I'm looking

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it up right now. Yeah, it's dope. Oh, oh, so

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let me tell this before I hop on this. So we

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have a producer who is a history buff, which

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by the way, that is early onset Republican. Yeah.

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Yes. I remember that. Uh, that's from Netflix,

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uh, Shane Gillis. Yes. Oh man. I'm just popped

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up. All right. I can't do this right now. I just

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want to find, just want to find that. So anyway,

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spy off. So I'm looking up. Yeah, dude. Tell

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your story. Yeah, so we do have somebody who

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will be able to like we're talking about spy

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ops now. They could pull up an article on it,

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put it on screen so everybody could see. But

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there was some miscommunication, apparently,

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between myself and him on when he would start.

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Oh, yeah. So his thought is he starting next

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week? And my thought is he was starting this

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week. And I clearly had said that, but I'm going

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to let it slide. uh this one last time I told

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him we need commitment from here on out otherwise

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we move on to the next we're definitely not calling

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him Jamie then it's you know he got this jacked

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up just kidding right he's definitely bababooey

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at this point it's not it's not attained Jamie

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status right right what's his name for real Julio

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Iglesias yeah oh fair cool all right Julio Iglesias

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is doing it awesome uh I do call him Rob Bobby

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Yankee his name is Robert Hayes so I call him

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Rob Bobby Yankee so that's cool for, for him.

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Robbie Yankee, pull that up for us. I'm really

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cold. Pull that up, Bobby. That works. Bobby.

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Yeah. Anything works. It's kind of a cool name

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to pronounce all different ways. Yeah. Um, so

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when he gets here next week, guys and gals that

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are listening, give them some shit for not being

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here this week. So speaking of Netflix, I watched

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painkiller, which is awesome. Have you seen?

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Uh, so since we spoke about it, I am on episode

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two and I fricking love it. All right. Sorry.

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We spoke about this last week. Yeah. Cause Peter

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Berg was on Joe Rogan and I got, I watched the

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whole series. It's pretty amazing. Did a great

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job. The Sacklers are a piece of work. No, no

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one's mentioning how great Broderick was in that

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Matthew Broderick. I mean, come on. Ferris Bueller

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kicked ass in that fricking show. He was so good.

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I haven't heard anybody talk about it. Maybe

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it's just me, but I just haven't heard anybody

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talk about how great a performance he did. The

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right winger, I think, isn't he? Broderick? I

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don't know. I don't know. Well, because his wife,

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Sarah Jessica Parker, I couldn't imagine being

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anything but liberal. But he's like maybe he

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could lean a little right. I'm not sure, but

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phenomenal performance. And, you know, to go

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from Ferris Bueller to that is like, wow, wow.

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Obviously he's done lots in between there, but

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yes, right. A lot of work, too. He was doing

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Broadway and all that good stuff. So that definitely

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picks up your acting chops, I would think. Yeah.

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Cause you know, the whole show, Peter Berg and

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Joe Rogan, they didn't mention Broderick at all.

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I was like, Oh, wow. He did a great frigging

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job. Like, and he was really one of the, I mean,

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there was a couple like other actors that you'd

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seen before, but he was really the main attraction

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in that. Yeah. I liked a Shannon Schafer. That's

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a David Covey's daughter, West Coveney. Really?

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West the Coveney. Yes. With Tia Leoni. Uh, I

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guess so. Yeah. Oh my, because I've, you know

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who she is to Leonie? Yeah, absolutely. She is

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hot, dude. So I'm good looking, dude. Them two

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making kids. Well, probably old enough for me

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to say hello to the Shannon Schaefer is looking

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good. West West company. Shout out to her. Hey,

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I got a cool question for you. Any bands that

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open for you guys? And I mean, I guess the gracious

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few included, but really live. Any bands open

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up for you guys that eventually became like successes

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where you're like, oh shit, uh, so and so is

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now over here. Um, absolutely. Weezer opened

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for us in 94. No way. On a tour. Oh, and that

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was cool. Uh, river is eccentric, but really

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great. Nice guy at the time. He still had a short

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leg. So he got that hit. I don't remember when

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he, when they came out, he had this one leg was

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shorter than the other. So he kind of went around.

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Yeah. And he got that fix. And then we did a

00:14:10.590 --> 00:14:13.009
fessel with him a few years later and we saw

00:14:13.009 --> 00:14:16.149
him again. But the bass player was this guy named

00:14:16.149 --> 00:14:20.389
Matt Sharp, who went on to do another band. They

00:14:20.389 --> 00:14:24.289
had one hit, but he was a dick, dude. Oh my God.

00:14:25.789 --> 00:14:28.110
The guitar player was cool. And Pat, the drummer

00:14:28.110 --> 00:14:31.370
was awesome. I mean, great band, mostly great

00:14:31.370 --> 00:14:33.450
guys. They got rid of the, they got rid of Matt

00:14:33.450 --> 00:14:36.399
Sharp. It's usually they get rid of the dicks

00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:40.220
after so long. Yeah. Take some time to read out,

00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:43.580
but then a muse actually opened for us in Europe

00:14:43.580 --> 00:14:48.539
back in like nine or something. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:52.240
Now they friggin cool to watch. And then they're

00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:55.460
friggin gigantic now. So yeah. I mean, they got

00:14:55.460 --> 00:15:01.120
a hardcore core following. Yeah. Yeah. Um, those

00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:02.980
are the two notables. I mean, I'm trying to think

00:15:02.980 --> 00:15:06.779
of others. I'll, I'll, I'll marinate on that.

00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:09.879
And then let me some others there along the,

00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:12.580
uh, live tours. Cause I know you've opened up

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for some cool ass bands like Jane's addiction

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at some point was, was there talking to some

00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:19.620
of the bands you guys opened up for, even though

00:15:19.620 --> 00:15:22.039
technically, you know, you were alive at that

00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:24.539
point. Um, but I guess it's just cool to go on

00:15:24.539 --> 00:15:28.850
tour with James. Yeah. So we. It's funny. We

00:15:28.850 --> 00:15:31.950
tried to not open as much as we could through,

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especially in the beginning of our career. And

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as we, I mean, in 93 or four, you were asked

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to open for you too. Oh, wow. And we said, no,

00:15:42.149 --> 00:15:44.289
like that must've, I was going to say, cause

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that was like a huge influence for you guys.

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Oh yeah. I mean, but at the time we were about

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to embark on a, I think it was a headlining theater

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tour. We're like, we want to establish ourselves

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as a, as a headliner. Thank you for the offer,

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very flattering. Funny story about that is my

00:16:03.850 --> 00:16:06.389
friend Brian Smith, who is a business partner

00:16:06.389 --> 00:16:09.330
with Jerry Harrison of Talking Heads, who produced

00:16:09.330 --> 00:16:11.690
a few of our records, a few of our great records.

00:16:12.929 --> 00:16:15.850
He somehow got to have a dinner with Larry Mullins

00:16:15.850 --> 00:16:19.830
Jr. One guy I knew too that I've never met, of

00:16:19.830 --> 00:16:23.950
course, the drummer. And Larry, you know, Larry's

00:16:23.950 --> 00:16:26.350
it's Larry's band and he was he picked all the

00:16:26.350 --> 00:16:28.990
openers. And so he selected us and we said, no,

00:16:29.070 --> 00:16:30.990
we're one of the very few bands ever said no

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to open for you, too. And he still remembers

00:16:32.909 --> 00:16:35.409
that to this day because Brian mentioned us.

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He's like, hmm. Yeah. They said no to us. I mean,

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I get it, but he should also realize that you

00:16:43.190 --> 00:16:46.610
were Rolling Stone's 1995 artist of the year.

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So that was right before that. That decision.

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So it was probably the better, a better decision

00:16:51.870 --> 00:16:54.090
to make. I don't think Larry cares. He's pissed.

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Yeah. I'm more, I'm mortified. Like whatever

00:16:57.590 --> 00:16:59.590
me Larry's going to be like, you didn't know.

00:17:00.429 --> 00:17:02.509
I blame it on the other guys. They pick, they,

00:17:02.509 --> 00:17:05.490
they, they sell. No, actually we all, we all,

00:17:05.549 --> 00:17:09.359
we all, you know, unanimously said no to that.

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Cause we were getting ready to do, you know,

00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:14.420
two to 3000 Cedars ourselves. And we were like,

00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:16.900
man, we want to do this. And I'm cool to fucking

00:17:16.900 --> 00:17:19.980
do that, but we want to do this. Right. And I'm

00:17:19.980 --> 00:17:21.819
sure your management was pushing you to go the

00:17:21.819 --> 00:17:24.160
other way because it meant more money for them.

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If you were, yeah, you got to kind of sometimes

00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:28.480
think of that too. Yes. We got asked to play

00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:32.759
in the white house. I think it was 94 or 95 for

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Clinton. It was 95. Cause we just come off tour.

00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:40.200
For throwing copper and we were like, I mean

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we toured like 18 19 months straight Are you

00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:47.579
saying no breaks? Oh, yeah, we said no Wow, cuz

00:17:47.579 --> 00:17:50.900
we were tired. That's another thing It's like

00:17:50.900 --> 00:17:53.259
fuck what the hell we're thinking. Oh you guys

00:17:53.259 --> 00:17:56.880
could know it house Yeah kind of and you could

00:17:56.880 --> 00:17:58.859
have been like Snoop Dogg who I think is the

00:17:58.859 --> 00:18:02.200
only person to Openly admit that he smoked weed

00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:05.480
at the White House Patrick could have done that

00:18:05.529 --> 00:18:12.569
Oh, totally. Totally. I think I told you or mentioned

00:18:12.569 --> 00:18:15.150
it somewhere along the line, but I was at Starland

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Ballroom and my mother and girlfriend ended up

00:18:19.569 --> 00:18:22.190
backstage because they were hot little bitties

00:18:22.190 --> 00:18:25.589
and I got stuck downstairs with my younger brother

00:18:25.589 --> 00:18:29.309
who was like 11 at the time. Oh, shit. Yes. So.

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By the time I talk security into letting us up

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so I could grab them, I go up there and my mother

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and girlfriend were in that like this little

00:18:36.809 --> 00:18:39.470
closet with Patrick and maybe one other person.

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They were all smoking, having a good time. I'm

00:18:41.990 --> 00:18:44.990
like, ah, this is where you ladies are great.

00:18:45.650 --> 00:18:47.710
Yeah. Oh yeah. But I totally ruined the vibe.

00:18:47.890 --> 00:18:50.349
I was young, dumb and had some alcohol in me.

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And of course, but needless to say, I don't know

00:18:55.269 --> 00:18:56.549
if I would have been happy about that either.

00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:58.980
with my mom and my girlfriend at the time in

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the closet in the band's dressing room where

00:19:00.859 --> 00:19:02.500
I couldn't get into. I don't know if I'd be happy

00:19:02.500 --> 00:19:06.079
about that. Right. You know, but I got over it

00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:09.400
and I moved on. But yeah, I just thought that

00:19:09.400 --> 00:19:12.619
was funny. So I know Patrick likes his his greenery.

00:19:12.660 --> 00:19:16.660
I'll put it that way. Yes, he does. It's good,

00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:19.630
though, makes you. It's such a crazy because

00:19:19.630 --> 00:19:22.130
I've witnessed from, you know, being born in

00:19:22.130 --> 00:19:25.029
the 80s to now, just the difference in opinion

00:19:25.029 --> 00:19:26.970
when it comes to pot used to be like, oh, my

00:19:26.970 --> 00:19:29.190
God, it's the gateway drug. Now it's like, oh,

00:19:29.210 --> 00:19:31.210
who gives a shit? It's better. Yeah, I mean,

00:19:31.250 --> 00:19:33.009
it should be federally legal. It's just dumb

00:19:33.009 --> 00:19:35.190
at this point. You know, it's still I think it's

00:19:35.190 --> 00:19:38.930
still schedule one narcotic considered like the

00:19:38.930 --> 00:19:41.630
one of the worst, like with heroin and cocaine.

00:19:41.730 --> 00:19:43.750
It's like, what? Right. That doesn't make any

00:19:43.750 --> 00:19:46.829
sense at all. No, makes absolutely no sense.

00:19:46.930 --> 00:19:50.210
And then you got wacky ass laws called, I think

00:19:50.210 --> 00:19:54.089
the Rockefeller laws in New York where it's like

00:19:54.089 --> 00:19:58.069
Coke is here and then crack is here as far as

00:19:58.069 --> 00:20:02.009
like the penalty you do for having, uh, which

00:20:02.009 --> 00:20:07.009
is directly, uh, related to them. Uh, I think

00:20:07.009 --> 00:20:09.289
trying to put black people in jail over white

00:20:09.289 --> 00:20:12.130
people, cause white people were doing Coke. And

00:20:12.130 --> 00:20:14.150
a lot of black people at the time were doing

00:20:14.150 --> 00:20:17.009
crack. It was a cheaper drug. So in the in the

00:20:17.009 --> 00:20:19.869
suburbs and stuff like that was their drug. Yeah.

00:20:20.589 --> 00:20:24.329
Yeah. Yeah. So the fact that you add baking soda

00:20:24.329 --> 00:20:27.089
and water to Coke and then it makes the crime

00:20:27.089 --> 00:20:30.089
so much worse is just mind blowing to me. And

00:20:30.089 --> 00:20:31.849
it's like a slap. You know the recipe for crack.

00:20:31.890 --> 00:20:35.529
I don't know that. No, I do. Come on now. I'm

00:20:35.529 --> 00:20:39.190
from North Jersey, man. We know the recipe for

00:20:39.190 --> 00:20:43.180
everything. Um, yeah. I mean, I agree with you.

00:20:43.180 --> 00:20:45.799
I think that that was unleashed on, you know,

00:20:45.859 --> 00:20:48.700
there's conspiracy theories. Yeah. Here they

00:20:48.700 --> 00:20:51.660
go. About that, about how it was unleashed by

00:20:51.660 --> 00:20:54.859
the CIA on black community. I mean, devastated

00:20:54.859 --> 00:20:57.819
it. Right. And then, you know, Joe Biden's right

00:20:57.819 --> 00:21:01.059
there in 94 passing the, uh, anti -crime laws

00:21:01.059 --> 00:21:05.960
directly, you know, targeting that group of people.

00:21:06.319 --> 00:21:09.079
But if you ain't black, you ain't voting. What

00:21:09.079 --> 00:21:11.319
was it? You don't fall for me. You ain't black.

00:21:11.339 --> 00:21:15.160
There you go. But he's just good old Joe. It's

00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:20.140
OK. Oh, throwing out gems. But the best president

00:21:20.140 --> 00:21:22.980
for soundbites definitely and will always build

00:21:22.980 --> 00:21:27.200
always will be George HW. Oh, my God. Strategy.

00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:30.539
Yes. Yeah. If you if you can't put food on your

00:21:30.539 --> 00:21:34.039
table or food on your family and worldwide interwebs.

00:21:34.819 --> 00:21:37.920
Dude, but like. I, there's like a 20 minute one

00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:40.839
on YouTube where like I'm crying laughing throughout

00:21:40.839 --> 00:21:44.920
the whole video. It's just like, Oh, it's so

00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:48.299
good. Just type in George Bush's like slip ups

00:21:48.299 --> 00:21:52.420
or something. It is hysterical dude. And then

00:21:52.420 --> 00:21:56.019
it's great to see a Will Ferrell do him. I remember

00:21:56.019 --> 00:21:58.160
Will Ferrell used to do him all the time. And

00:21:58.160 --> 00:22:00.240
then they had a skit with Will Ferrell and Dana

00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:05.089
Carvey doing senior. Oh, no way. And that's funny

00:22:05.089 --> 00:22:08.569
as hell. And then I think, uh, Fred Armisen is

00:22:08.569 --> 00:22:12.730
playing Obama. Perfect. It's, it's a good skit.

00:22:13.069 --> 00:22:16.829
Yeah. I mean, uh, Will Ferrell doing George HW

00:22:16.829 --> 00:22:21.549
is phenomenal. He had years. I mean, he, he kept

00:22:21.549 --> 00:22:23.809
coming on to do that even after he was out of

00:22:23.809 --> 00:22:27.130
the, the cast of that. So if I remember correctly,

00:22:27.329 --> 00:22:31.710
yeah. It's so crazy all the people and comedians

00:22:31.710 --> 00:22:34.609
that that came through or started off on SNL

00:22:34.609 --> 00:22:37.789
and like what they become like Adam Sandler is

00:22:37.789 --> 00:22:40.470
a juggernaut when it comes to box office and

00:22:40.470 --> 00:22:46.609
all that stuff. Yeah, no alumni man Murphy. Now

00:22:46.609 --> 00:22:51.470
with any Murphy famous before SNL or or no because

00:22:51.470 --> 00:22:54.390
I don't remember that far. I don't I was I don't

00:22:54.390 --> 00:22:57.769
I don't think so. That so that was not sure exactly.

00:22:57.769 --> 00:23:00.549
I don't know what his yeah, I don't know what

00:23:00.549 --> 00:23:02.970
his history was before, you know pre SNL. I'm

00:23:02.970 --> 00:23:05.809
not sure that's where I knew became aware of

00:23:05.809 --> 00:23:09.950
him the Eddie Murphy raw and Eddie Murphy delirious

00:23:09.950 --> 00:23:14.210
in the purple and Red leather suits man. God

00:23:14.210 --> 00:23:16.009
bless him for wearing those things. He must be

00:23:16.009 --> 00:23:19.069
I think it was blue. It's below red on the first

00:23:19.069 --> 00:23:20.829
one and blue on the second one blue and black.

00:23:21.009 --> 00:23:24.470
Yeah. Yeah, great and full leather man. Like

00:23:24.470 --> 00:23:28.079
he had to be hot. Yeah. You'd think so. Yeah.

00:23:28.279 --> 00:23:30.400
He might, he might be a Furby. He might be into

00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:34.619
putting on the costume and banging. Furby. You

00:23:34.619 --> 00:23:37.019
heard it here first. That's, that's different

00:23:37.019 --> 00:23:40.779
than the leather guy. Yeah, true. But come on

00:23:40.779 --> 00:23:44.119
now, roll with me here. I mean, then you have,

00:23:44.339 --> 00:23:50.339
I mean, you know, David Spade and of course Chris

00:23:50.339 --> 00:23:52.839
Farley. they were they were having a good run

00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:55.319
then he died obviously i mean the guy was so

00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:58.140
fucking funny the first time we played at snl

00:23:58.140 --> 00:24:02.440
in 94 i think it was uh david hyde pierce was

00:24:02.440 --> 00:24:07.380
the was the host and yeah you're at the end of

00:24:07.380 --> 00:24:11.210
the show We like, I think it was Chad, Patrick,

00:24:11.210 --> 00:24:12.809
and I, we decided we're like, we're going to,

00:24:12.809 --> 00:24:14.650
we're going to surround Chris Farley and like

00:24:14.650 --> 00:24:16.450
bear hug him and jump up and down. So that, so

00:24:16.450 --> 00:24:18.369
we did that. If you see right at the very end

00:24:18.369 --> 00:24:20.289
of the show, before they cut it off, you can

00:24:20.289 --> 00:24:23.569
see us doing that. He wasn't really down. He

00:24:23.569 --> 00:24:25.890
was just like, what the fuck? What are you guys

00:24:25.890 --> 00:24:31.690
doing? So his brother's pretty funny. I don't

00:24:31.690 --> 00:24:35.069
Kevin Farley, I think. Cause yeah. Yeah. I think

00:24:35.069 --> 00:24:38.990
I follow him on Instagram. Oh, you do you? I

00:24:38.990 --> 00:24:43.430
think so. Yeah. What is now, how can you update

00:24:43.430 --> 00:24:46.710
your Instagram more so than your other socials?

00:24:46.789 --> 00:24:50.309
Just like a quick pick and a synopsis. That's

00:24:50.309 --> 00:24:53.410
what you're looking for. Oh, you mean like the

00:24:53.410 --> 00:24:55.710
story thing on Instagram? I don't, I'm just on

00:24:55.710 --> 00:24:58.490
Instagram a lot and I see something that either

00:24:58.490 --> 00:25:01.529
intrigues me or pisses me off and I put it up.

00:25:01.710 --> 00:25:03.990
Well, cause you were doing some funny ass videos

00:25:03.990 --> 00:25:07.539
on your Instagram. where like you would do voiceovers

00:25:07.539 --> 00:25:10.480
and stuff like that. And like, kind of, those

00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:12.680
were dope. And I thought they were more fit for

00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:16.700
like Tik TOK. Yeah. I just have never downloaded

00:25:16.700 --> 00:25:18.660
Tik TOK. I don't even want to get involved with

00:25:18.660 --> 00:25:21.440
it. Me either. I'm scared too, just from listening

00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:24.319
to Rogan about like how it's Chinese spyware.

00:25:25.180 --> 00:25:28.180
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what they, they follow your

00:25:28.180 --> 00:25:29.940
keystrokes. I mean, they probably all do, but

00:25:29.940 --> 00:25:32.680
like, you know, it's Tik TOK. It seems to be

00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:35.440
the worst. It all gets sent to fucking China.

00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:38.099
Like I don't really, they probably have a bunch

00:25:38.099 --> 00:25:40.180
of shit anyway on the, anyway, but like, I don't

00:25:40.180 --> 00:25:42.380
want to give them more. So exactly. You don't

00:25:42.380 --> 00:25:45.440
want to give them back door access or whatever.

00:25:46.259 --> 00:25:48.660
Uh, I think we have a caller. I'm going to see

00:25:48.660 --> 00:25:52.920
if this caller caller, caller, caller. Uh, let's

00:25:52.920 --> 00:26:01.859
see here. Caller. Can you hear me? Caller. I

00:26:01.859 --> 00:26:04.529
can hear you. Yo, what up dude? So we can hear

00:26:04.529 --> 00:26:07.809
you this week. All right. If you have any questions

00:26:07.809 --> 00:26:10.269
with volume coming out of it, besides the phone,

00:26:10.490 --> 00:26:13.789
just lower that. And what up caller? What is

00:26:13.789 --> 00:26:17.529
your first name? My first name is Josh. Josh.

00:26:17.609 --> 00:26:20.349
What's going on? So Chad, this Josh, this is

00:26:20.349 --> 00:26:23.509
Josh Lichtenfield. And this is, yes, I know Josh.

00:26:23.509 --> 00:26:28.490
Yeah, buddy. How are you guys doing? Well, not

00:26:28.490 --> 00:26:31.369
bad. I thought it'd be great for him to come

00:26:31.369 --> 00:26:34.890
on and kind of tell us a little bit of his story

00:26:34.890 --> 00:26:39.150
and what happened between him and Chad Taylor

00:26:39.150 --> 00:26:43.430
and Chad Taylor's lawyer, mostly. What was the

00:26:43.430 --> 00:26:50.910
lawyer? We got a disqualified. Yes. Yes. I really

00:26:50.910 --> 00:26:53.430
don't know what happened with Chad Taylor and

00:26:53.430 --> 00:26:57.170
all of that scenario. I think I was the one that

00:26:57.170 --> 00:27:00.140
reiterated what what bill hind said a few comments

00:27:00.140 --> 00:27:08.039
before me right you took bill's side so maybe

00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:10.099
me using a little bit of hyperbole i mentioned

00:27:10.099 --> 00:27:12.900
he torpedoed the band which probably wasn't it

00:27:12.900 --> 00:27:14.900
probably wasn't appropriate on my part that is

00:27:14.900 --> 00:27:18.119
uh not a conspiracy theory but you are a fan

00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:20.880
and you are just posting your opinion it's not

00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:24.299
like you're fucking uh over there defaming anybody

00:27:24.299 --> 00:27:27.339
uh no and and i want to get this out of the way

00:27:27.339 --> 00:27:29.809
too I'm just a genuine fan of the band live.

00:27:30.250 --> 00:27:32.869
Like the crazy thing is I'm a fan of Chad Taylor's

00:27:32.869 --> 00:27:34.950
and I'm a fan of Patrick Dahlheimer's. I'm a

00:27:34.950 --> 00:27:37.970
huge fan of Eggo Walchick and Gracie knows this,

00:27:38.049 --> 00:27:39.750
but Gracie is one of the most badass drummers

00:27:39.750 --> 00:27:42.369
of all time. Not just because he's in live, but

00:27:42.369 --> 00:27:47.650
thank you. Appreciate that Josh. So I, you know,

00:27:47.730 --> 00:27:49.829
that that scenario was just that scenario was

00:27:49.829 --> 00:27:52.150
just kind of kind of frustrating and weird. So

00:27:52.150 --> 00:27:54.960
I decided Um, I didn't want to be entangled in

00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:57.180
any of that because I never, I never like tried

00:27:57.180 --> 00:28:00.180
to stir the pot or create any bad will or whatever.

00:28:00.460 --> 00:28:02.319
So I just decided for a couple of months, it

00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:05.740
was smart for me to shut up. Well, and you also

00:28:05.740 --> 00:28:08.259
were threatened to basically silence because

00:28:08.259 --> 00:28:11.779
they were having you go on and delete previous

00:28:11.779 --> 00:28:14.440
posts that you put telling you not to talk about

00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:18.319
things in the future. So, uh, it's almost like

00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:21.680
you were pressured into it. Uh, And the part

00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:24.420
that pissed me off was, of course, all of it.

00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:28.200
But the fact that in Mr. Taylor's blog, as he

00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:31.140
started going on and actually naming you by name

00:28:31.140 --> 00:28:37.019
and talking shit about you and and he was lying.

00:28:37.859 --> 00:28:40.460
So that's the part that upset me. Yeah, I got

00:28:40.460 --> 00:28:43.180
I got I got reached out to and I don't know what

00:28:43.180 --> 00:28:45.279
I'm even on talk about as far as that all goes.

00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:48.819
But I got reached out to and. I was just asked

00:28:48.819 --> 00:28:51.200
to, you know, stop giving opinions that weren't

00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:54.319
facts, um, and stop stating it or, or I could

00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:56.839
be implicated in stuff. So I'm like, okay. And

00:28:56.839 --> 00:28:59.940
then they were like, we want you to, to delete,

00:28:59.940 --> 00:29:01.279
you know, what you've done and knock it off.

00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:03.819
So I did. I showed respect is, you know, I have

00:29:03.819 --> 00:29:05.660
a family and everything else. I, the last thing

00:29:05.660 --> 00:29:08.980
I want to be is entangled in legal affairs that

00:29:08.980 --> 00:29:12.279
had nothing to do with me. Right. And so you

00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:14.839
felt that that was an option is just ridiculous.

00:29:15.549 --> 00:29:18.289
It was weird. So yeah, it was, it was unnerving.

00:29:18.529 --> 00:29:21.369
I'm like, am I going to get subpoenaed or something

00:29:21.369 --> 00:29:23.930
because of being an idiot on Facebook? Cause

00:29:23.930 --> 00:29:25.910
I started thinking, Josh, you're a moron. Like

00:29:25.910 --> 00:29:29.009
if you just said nothing and just like let it

00:29:29.009 --> 00:29:33.470
go and whatever. But, uh, what I was totally

00:29:33.470 --> 00:29:36.390
dumbfounded by was two months later because I

00:29:36.390 --> 00:29:38.049
did everything that was asked of me. I didn't

00:29:38.049 --> 00:29:41.650
say a word. I left and then, you know, just say

00:29:41.650 --> 00:29:44.309
that I was a, and he did apologize. I want to

00:29:44.309 --> 00:29:46.359
give him some credit. And I know you confronted

00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:49.359
him, but, um, he did apologize when you said

00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:52.720
that. Who are you talking about Josh? Chad Taylor.

00:29:52.819 --> 00:29:54.900
Okay. Chad Taylor said that he thinks that I'm

00:29:54.900 --> 00:29:57.880
a good person and I was a metaphorical tree or

00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:01.380
something. Um, now did he do that? This is Chad

00:30:01.380 --> 00:30:04.079
Taylor's ML. This is what he does historically.

00:30:04.259 --> 00:30:07.779
He did this on his, uh, he had, he did this on

00:30:07.779 --> 00:30:10.420
his Instagram, like after you, cause you You,

00:30:10.420 --> 00:30:12.039
you, you're not trying, I mean, everybody knows

00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:14.680
what your Instagram is, John. So you, you were

00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:16.839
like Shaman, you, you attacked like a long time

00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:19.339
fan here. Who's like always had your goodwill

00:30:19.339 --> 00:30:20.960
at heart. And yeah, he mentioned what bill did,

00:30:20.980 --> 00:30:23.759
but like you still attacked him. And then Chad

00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:25.480
kind of backpedaled in was like Chad Taylor,

00:30:25.579 --> 00:30:28.920
not Gracie. And he was just like, Oh, um, well,

00:30:28.980 --> 00:30:31.599
he's a metaphorical tree. And I think I misconstrued

00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:34.160
what he said. And that's, I'm like, I'm not going

00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:35.720
to, I'm not going to respond to him either. Cause

00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:37.900
the last thing I wanted is a bunch of attention,

00:30:37.900 --> 00:30:40.180
you know? Like it was kind of a nervy. And the

00:30:40.180 --> 00:30:42.700
only, like part of the reason I feel like okay

00:30:42.700 --> 00:30:45.759
to talk at all is cause and I don't even want

00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:47.039
to name drop the dude, but the dude that reached

00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:49.039
out to me, they kicked him off. So I'm like,

00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:50.880
well, evidently he's not going to come after

00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:54.059
me with pick forks and that's the lawyer we disqualified.

00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:57.079
Yeah. He's he's out. Yeah. So then again, he,

00:30:57.079 --> 00:30:59.339
then again, he, he stopped after like all that

00:30:59.339 --> 00:31:01.079
stopped after a little bit of correspondence.

00:31:01.099 --> 00:31:03.089
So I think It was kind of like, if we get this

00:31:03.089 --> 00:31:06.170
guy to shut up, it's one less person that could

00:31:06.170 --> 00:31:08.589
say stuff that we don't like and like, maybe

00:31:08.589 --> 00:31:10.630
move narrative around. Cause you were a moderator

00:31:10.630 --> 00:31:13.369
or are a moderator on the page. Didn't they want

00:31:13.369 --> 00:31:17.069
you to go through and siphon out like shit? Like

00:31:17.069 --> 00:31:19.589
it was like, it was like, Hey, they were like,

00:31:19.750 --> 00:31:22.230
they were like, Hey, there's stuff going on.

00:31:24.730 --> 00:31:30.910
So they got silenced by them. Yeah, he might

00:31:30.910 --> 00:31:34.589
have. Hold on a second. Josh, hold on. But, uh,

00:31:34.950 --> 00:31:39.630
you're back. Okay. I'm still here. Cool. It was

00:31:39.630 --> 00:31:42.329
kind of like, there's a lawsuit at hand. We don't

00:31:42.329 --> 00:31:45.250
want you to say, say things are like, let things

00:31:45.250 --> 00:31:48.190
air in here that could, you know, be inappropriate.

00:31:48.390 --> 00:31:50.549
Like I think like some, some of the, the morals

00:31:50.549 --> 00:31:53.789
that seemed okay. That part. But all I said is,

00:31:53.930 --> 00:31:56.349
listen, I'm not the admin. Um, the admin is a

00:31:56.349 --> 00:31:58.819
guy named Nick Sacco and if you want control

00:31:58.819 --> 00:32:01.519
of the page. And I said, there's another admin.

00:32:01.660 --> 00:32:04.579
It's actually John's admin on there. There's

00:32:04.579 --> 00:32:07.200
seven admins on there. I've never been an admin.

00:32:07.299 --> 00:32:08.880
I was just a moderator. And the only reason I

00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:10.720
get attention is cause I write a lot, you know?

00:32:10.900 --> 00:32:14.420
And you write very well, which is probably the

00:32:14.420 --> 00:32:17.740
lawyer was not expecting an educated person behind

00:32:17.740 --> 00:32:21.599
that email. Yeah. So, so that was a, I don't

00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:24.079
know, man, that was, that was a weird situation.

00:32:24.140 --> 00:32:26.859
Like that whole thing. I'm like, Dude, I don't

00:32:26.859 --> 00:32:28.980
want to be implicated in anything. I really don't

00:32:28.980 --> 00:32:31.740
want legal affairs. I don't even know these people.

00:32:32.059 --> 00:32:34.759
Like I'm like, now it's like, am I going to be

00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:38.259
like, if I go, if live ever tours again, am I

00:32:38.259 --> 00:32:39.839
going to be blacklist? You know, you start thinking

00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:41.619
like, are you going to be blacklisted from going

00:32:41.619 --> 00:32:43.920
to events? You're just like, what? No, you won't

00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:45.740
be blacklisted if we ever tour again, because

00:32:45.740 --> 00:32:48.579
guess what? Chad Taylor won't be there. So yeah,

00:32:50.940 --> 00:32:54.000
you're good. Josh is being a little like, he's,

00:32:54.099 --> 00:32:56.980
he's not going full full. out here, which I completely

00:32:56.980 --> 00:32:59.319
understand, but I talked to him personally and

00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.579
he was like nervous and like, he's like, I don't

00:33:02.579 --> 00:33:04.579
want this. Like, I don't want, like, I got a

00:33:04.579 --> 00:33:07.359
lawyer coming after me now and Chad Taylor's

00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:09.480
mentioning my name and his blog and stuff. So

00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:11.700
like, well, the blog, what I can say about that

00:33:11.700 --> 00:33:14.579
is when he, when he implicated me in that guy

00:33:14.579 --> 00:33:16.779
and Gracie knows that guy very well, Bob's his

00:33:16.779 --> 00:33:20.839
era to implicate us as cyber bullies of women.

00:33:21.259 --> 00:33:23.420
So we live in an era right now. Like if we want

00:33:23.420 --> 00:33:26.900
to look at what just happened with Um, and Danny

00:33:26.900 --> 00:33:28.960
Masterson probably did do some stupid stuff here,

00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:32.019
like let's not this guy, but we live in an era

00:33:32.019 --> 00:33:34.420
now where Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis because

00:33:34.420 --> 00:33:36.519
they opened their mouths and defended like they

00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.539
defended their friend. And yeah, the guy is it's

00:33:39.539 --> 00:33:41.359
pretty obvious where they're smoking their fire.

00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:44.539
But now you're watching all these articles over

00:33:44.539 --> 00:33:47.200
the last few days. The media is circling them

00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:50.740
like wolves to get them. Right. So we live in

00:33:50.740 --> 00:33:52.500
an era now where it's like, you don't want to

00:33:52.500 --> 00:33:55.289
be entangled with this stuff because. you become

00:33:55.289 --> 00:33:57.589
spotlighted. Well, then Chad Hiller spotlights

00:33:57.589 --> 00:34:00.170
us, says that we're like cyber bullies of women.

00:34:00.730 --> 00:34:02.950
I'm like, are you kidding me? Like a cyber bully

00:34:02.950 --> 00:34:07.089
of women? Like what? And then like, he was like,

00:34:07.170 --> 00:34:08.989
he just makes shit up, dude. That's what he does.

00:34:09.789 --> 00:34:13.429
He's like, they bullied, um, and they gave the,

00:34:13.489 --> 00:34:15.349
I forget all the women now, but they, I'm like,

00:34:15.449 --> 00:34:17.489
I don't even know them. Like I never even talked

00:34:17.489 --> 00:34:20.329
to them. I like never had a correspondence with

00:34:20.329 --> 00:34:22.250
them. So I, I don't know. And again, I didn't

00:34:22.250 --> 00:34:23.980
even respond to it. Maybe I should have, maybe

00:34:23.980 --> 00:34:25.400
I shouldn't have. I was just like, whatever.

00:34:25.500 --> 00:34:27.019
This is really stupid. I just went away for a

00:34:27.019 --> 00:34:29.400
couple of months. Yeah. Literally you went, you

00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:32.000
weren't on that fans of live page for months

00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:37.719
because of that. Yep. So I think I just got caught

00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:39.199
in the crosshairs or maybe somebody was like,

00:34:39.219 --> 00:34:41.920
listen, this is a chance. These two guys here,

00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:46.960
I don't know who or why, like they would have

00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:49.019
recommended, I guess, Bob and I to be part of

00:34:49.019 --> 00:34:50.820
this article. Cause it was like I said, like

00:34:50.820 --> 00:34:54.780
two months later where I was like, What? Someone

00:34:54.780 --> 00:34:56.099
messaged me. They're like, you're not going to

00:34:56.099 --> 00:34:58.360
be very happy. And then I had other people messaging

00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:00.500
me and I like, they're messaging me and they're

00:35:00.500 --> 00:35:02.400
like, and they're tied to the band. Right. And

00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:04.760
I, I don't want to name the guy's name because

00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:06.719
he was really nervous himself. And he's like,

00:35:06.980 --> 00:35:09.860
he, he had a really long history with the band

00:35:09.860 --> 00:35:12.579
and he's like, you know, I feel really bad. What

00:35:12.579 --> 00:35:14.460
happened to you and all this and all that, but

00:35:14.460 --> 00:35:17.059
I'm not going to say anything publicly. I'm like,

00:35:17.820 --> 00:35:21.599
cool. Like great. Yeah. Thanks for that support.

00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.800
Right. Your support behind closed doors doesn't

00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:28.239
do much for me, but thanks. So, you know, the

00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:31.659
reality is too, I'm not afraid to say that I'm

00:35:31.659 --> 00:35:34.019
friends with Chad Gracie and that I know who

00:35:34.019 --> 00:35:36.920
Bill Hines is like, that doesn't make like all,

00:35:37.059 --> 00:35:39.320
like that doesn't make me a scumbag because I

00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:42.119
know who these people are. Well, I mean, Chad

00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:44.800
Gracie and Bill Hines, that's kind of seedy characters

00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:48.199
you're hanging out with there, bud. I've never

00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:50.760
met these people. I've talked to them on the

00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:52.880
phone and stuff like that, but I've never met

00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:56.780
them in person. But the reality is, there doesn't

00:35:56.780 --> 00:36:00.579
need to be a hunting party sort of set up like

00:36:00.579 --> 00:36:02.900
that page turned into. But I will say a lot of

00:36:02.900 --> 00:36:05.840
that drama after that time period has dissipated.

00:36:05.940 --> 00:36:08.659
It seems like a lot of the people that were entangled

00:36:08.659 --> 00:36:11.099
in stuff just got bored of it because it became

00:36:11.099 --> 00:36:14.050
tiresome after a while. And the truth started

00:36:14.050 --> 00:36:17.090
to come out from multiple sources, not just from

00:36:17.090 --> 00:36:19.250
Chad Gracie, not just from Bill Hines, but from

00:36:19.250 --> 00:36:22.489
public court records, from this, from that. And

00:36:22.489 --> 00:36:26.650
slowly but surely, the dismantling of lies was

00:36:26.650 --> 00:36:29.050
taking place. And there will be more coming,

00:36:29.329 --> 00:36:31.349
believe me. There's more reckoning. The legal

00:36:31.349 --> 00:36:34.489
process is continuing, and we're not stopping.

00:36:36.090 --> 00:36:37.389
You know, the crazy thing... And Chad Taylor

00:36:37.389 --> 00:36:39.409
is... Josh, just for the record, Chad Taylor

00:36:39.409 --> 00:36:41.789
is all bluster. He's been bluster his whole fucking

00:36:41.789 --> 00:36:45.210
life. as long as I've known him, bluster, bluster,

00:36:45.730 --> 00:36:48.429
bluster. And then he just makes things up out

00:36:48.429 --> 00:36:51.690
of thin air, believes them in his mind and sells

00:36:51.690 --> 00:36:53.869
them. That's what he did to you. That's what

00:36:53.869 --> 00:36:56.250
he did to you. I think, I think he went too far.

00:36:56.349 --> 00:36:58.030
I think he knows he went too far. He stepped

00:36:58.030 --> 00:37:00.590
on the ledge and then John like kind of like

00:37:00.590 --> 00:37:01.929
bitch slapped him a little bit. And then he's

00:37:01.929 --> 00:37:05.030
like, uh, yeah, now in public, they know that

00:37:05.030 --> 00:37:07.670
I defamed the fan because that was defamation.

00:37:08.030 --> 00:37:11.679
It basically almost docks you. that's that sounds

00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:14.260
great luckily he said he said the wrong town

00:37:14.260 --> 00:37:17.059
but yeah he uh he said my age the state and all

00:37:17.059 --> 00:37:20.420
that i'm like yeah his name his age and the state

00:37:20.420 --> 00:37:22.980
maybe the city too i'm not sure but i can give

00:37:22.980 --> 00:37:25.139
his address right now if you want i can give

00:37:25.139 --> 00:37:27.179
chattano's address if you want to go see him

00:37:27.179 --> 00:37:29.860
he said but you know what i won't do that i'm

00:37:29.860 --> 00:37:32.059
not a dick i would give him i would give him

00:37:32.059 --> 00:37:33.679
uh i would give him time like if he ever wanted

00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:35.659
to talk to me i would peacefully talk to him

00:37:35.659 --> 00:37:37.679
because i've been a fan of your guys's music

00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:40.099
for Not as long as some, because I'm only 37,

00:37:40.139 --> 00:37:43.159
but I've been a fan of lives since 2012. Is it

00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:48.420
1, 2, 3, Red Roof Lane? That's Red Roof Lane.

00:37:49.139 --> 00:37:51.300
That's where I feel like a lot of, not to disparage

00:37:51.300 --> 00:37:53.099
them, but I feel like that's where a lot of hookers

00:37:53.099 --> 00:37:57.280
are at Red Roof Ends. Anybody? Just me? All righty.

00:37:57.300 --> 00:37:59.440
They ramp on the hour. So how about Midwestern,

00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:01.619
or we don't really have a lot of, I'll say Chicago,

00:38:01.980 --> 00:38:05.199
good experiences for that, you know? Ah, you

00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:06.960
need to capitalize and take over that market,

00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:14.590
dude. Your pen is strong. Uh, no, but Josh, I

00:38:14.590 --> 00:38:16.590
really wanted you to come on and get this story

00:38:16.590 --> 00:38:20.210
out because, um, it wasn't, it wasn't known.

00:38:20.449 --> 00:38:22.929
It wasn't known well enough actually what happened

00:38:22.929 --> 00:38:26.570
to you. So for anybody listening out there who,

00:38:26.690 --> 00:38:29.269
um, you know, this is straight from the horse's

00:38:29.269 --> 00:38:32.329
mouth. This is straight from a huge fan of the

00:38:32.329 --> 00:38:36.289
band live and how he was treated just for being

00:38:36.289 --> 00:38:40.300
a fan of the band. And just, and I'll take, I'll

00:38:40.300 --> 00:38:43.099
take ownership. Right. I did say he torpedoed

00:38:43.099 --> 00:38:44.840
the van. I can't take away my words. I mean,

00:38:45.219 --> 00:38:47.239
he can't take away his words in that post either.

00:38:47.579 --> 00:38:49.900
There's that guy out of Australia and Gracie,

00:38:49.900 --> 00:38:52.440
do you guys follow that fans alive? The forum

00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:54.960
page, you guys have to follow that. Right. So

00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:58.400
you've been on there before the main forum page.

00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:01.739
Right. Not the Facebook page, but like the website

00:39:01.739 --> 00:39:04.679
that you are. Um, I mean, I've been on it a couple

00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:07.059
of times, but I rarely go on it, but yeah. It's

00:39:07.059 --> 00:39:09.320
a curiosity of mine because like, you know, there's

00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:11.360
like a million recordings of you guys too. Like

00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:13.039
it's like, if you're a fan, like you could totally

00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:15.960
geek out and you guys, that's cool. Nice. It's

00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:17.440
kind of interesting telling you this. Like it's

00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:19.340
like, it's funny. It's like, yeah, I listed all

00:39:19.340 --> 00:39:21.000
your recordings. I'm just talking with you, but

00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:24.599
yeah, it's like, but there, there's a guy, the

00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:26.539
guy in there, his name's dang them. And he's

00:39:26.539 --> 00:39:29.599
that's an alias. Who knows who the guy is. A

00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:33.619
major contributor, major contributor for, um,

00:39:33.619 --> 00:39:36.809
he's He's the, he's the dude. Well, that dang

00:39:36.809 --> 00:39:39.730
them guy took screenshots of cause Taylor froze

00:39:39.730 --> 00:39:42.449
all of his, um, his socials. After that happened,

00:39:42.750 --> 00:39:45.329
he stripped it off like five, maybe five. I could

00:39:45.329 --> 00:39:47.369
be exaggerating. It seemed like an hour after

00:39:47.369 --> 00:39:49.090
John said something, he took it all down. Well,

00:39:49.110 --> 00:39:52.210
it's all still there on the forum. Oh, so he

00:39:52.210 --> 00:39:54.110
got him. He got all the screenshots before it

00:39:54.110 --> 00:39:56.570
went down. All the screenshots stayed on the

00:39:56.570 --> 00:39:58.449
forum. So like, yeah, there's screenshots of

00:39:58.449 --> 00:40:00.090
myself too. Like when I said he torpedoed the

00:40:00.090 --> 00:40:02.269
band, I did and why I said it, you know, to,

00:40:02.989 --> 00:40:05.690
to to proclaim why i said it was everyone was

00:40:05.690 --> 00:40:07.630
like we're confused it's like no one read anything

00:40:07.630 --> 00:40:10.510
right i'm like dude bill because this was like

00:40:10.510 --> 00:40:13.070
i'm an ex -journalist i went to college for journalism

00:40:13.070 --> 00:40:15.949
i was a journalist for a while and then you know

00:40:15.949 --> 00:40:17.929
the recession happened but is this andy green

00:40:17.929 --> 00:40:23.090
oh no no i'm not andy green he's jewish because

00:40:23.090 --> 00:40:27.150
i'm jewish maybe we have that in common lichtenfeld

00:40:27.150 --> 00:40:28.809
kind of sounds like it'd be german dude you sure

00:40:28.809 --> 00:40:31.219
you're on the right side over there Well, it's,

00:40:31.219 --> 00:40:34.159
uh, it's felled, man. It's felled is field in

00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:37.900
German. Anything reminds me of German. Sorry.

00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:40.059
Well, anything looked in shook is, is very German,

00:40:40.099 --> 00:40:47.199
but felled is usually right. Um, but, uh, you

00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:50.820
know, on that, on that page, when he was talking

00:40:50.820 --> 00:40:52.059
about it, when bill was talking about it, I'm

00:40:52.059 --> 00:40:53.739
like, how do these people not pick up what's

00:40:53.739 --> 00:40:55.920
going on? Cause finally he was dropping the other

00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:58.380
shoe. He's like, here's what happened. blah blah

00:40:58.380 --> 00:41:00.780
blah and because people were speculating the

00:41:00.780 --> 00:41:02.960
guys went quiet for like two years there was

00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:04.300
nothing for two years then all of a sudden i'm

00:41:04.300 --> 00:41:05.940
like hey torpedoed the band did you not read

00:41:05.940 --> 00:41:09.940
what bill high and said well that wasn't appropriate

00:41:09.940 --> 00:41:11.739
on my part maybe if i would have shut the hell

00:41:11.739 --> 00:41:13.940
up like that wouldn't have become a thing because

00:41:13.940 --> 00:41:16.820
i know that pissed him off yeah anything's appropriate

00:41:16.820 --> 00:41:18.420
on your you're allowed to say what you want to

00:41:18.420 --> 00:41:22.019
say i mean and it's not it's completely true

00:41:22.019 --> 00:41:25.750
i mean he torpedoed the band It's a long, long

00:41:25.750 --> 00:41:28.610
process, but it was, he torpedoed the band. He

00:41:28.610 --> 00:41:31.130
had Taylor child. Sarah was saying he wrote this

00:41:31.130 --> 00:41:34.110
song and that song over starting in like 93,

00:41:34.110 --> 00:41:40.269
94 as what eventually led to Ed, you know, stopping

00:41:40.269 --> 00:41:43.349
writing with him. And then eventually led in

00:41:43.349 --> 00:41:48.690
a long period to the 2009 breakup. Hold on one

00:41:48.690 --> 00:41:51.260
second, Josh. Not only that, I mean, for You

00:41:51.260 --> 00:41:53.619
know, you guys in the beginning, 93, 94 and shit,

00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:55.639
when interviews are going on and you're saying

00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:57.559
you guys are writing the music together, it's

00:41:57.559 --> 00:41:59.440
like a camaraderie thing. You know what I'm saying?

00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:01.119
Like, you're not going to, right. It's not going

00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:03.599
to stop me. If you say, well, actually, no, it's

00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:05.960
me. And then Chad comes up with this guitar part.

00:42:06.019 --> 00:42:08.059
And then I really write the lyrics and that's

00:42:08.059 --> 00:42:11.300
just way too much into extreme. I think in a

00:42:11.300 --> 00:42:13.119
group setting, it was fine with us saying that

00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:15.820
we worked on the music together. Maybe even said

00:42:15.820 --> 00:42:17.460
wrote the songs together. We would say that,

00:42:17.460 --> 00:42:20.250
but like, For Chad Taylor to say, I wrote lightning

00:42:20.250 --> 00:42:23.170
crashes. Right. I wrote something. It's like,

00:42:23.510 --> 00:42:25.849
that's not, it's not appropriate. I would never

00:42:25.849 --> 00:42:27.730
say that. Patrick would never say that. The fair

00:42:27.730 --> 00:42:29.730
thing is people, people read this stuff, right?

00:42:29.789 --> 00:42:31.849
Because all you know, all you know is the reality

00:42:31.849 --> 00:42:33.190
you see. It's like, believe half of what you

00:42:33.190 --> 00:42:34.710
see, you don't know what you hear. Nothing is

00:42:34.710 --> 00:42:37.070
a cliche, but it is. And so for years, I'd read

00:42:37.070 --> 00:42:39.789
that Ed's a dickhead and that he broke up the

00:42:39.789 --> 00:42:41.369
band. I mean, you read this stuff. Like if you're

00:42:41.369 --> 00:42:44.090
just blase and you read whatever are out there.

00:42:44.409 --> 00:42:47.639
So flash forward to Uh, the city winery show

00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:50.480
of eds, like a year before I've got back together,

00:42:50.579 --> 00:42:53.400
you guys got back together. It was at 15. I went

00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:55.900
there and this is pre COVID. So it was a little

00:42:55.900 --> 00:42:57.739
bit more open, right? And it was just meeting

00:42:57.739 --> 00:42:59.719
people. Like he can give a shit. Like I met up

00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:01.079
with him, put my arm around, took a picture.

00:43:01.179 --> 00:43:03.940
He talked. I'm like, this is the big bad wolf.

00:43:04.300 --> 00:43:06.980
I'm like, that narrative was stupid. I realized

00:43:06.980 --> 00:43:09.480
in like four minutes that whatever was being

00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:12.219
said there, there was a spin job from somebody.

00:43:12.340 --> 00:43:14.239
I'm not going to. point a finger at who might

00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:16.519
be spinning, but I could tell at that point,

00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:20.219
it was not as a big scumbag. And he is the big

00:43:20.219 --> 00:43:22.579
bad wolf of live. I was like, this guy's so mellow.

00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:24.760
He actually cares about his fans like this. Something

00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:28.139
doesn't read out right here. It almost seems

00:43:28.139 --> 00:43:30.400
like two different people. When, uh, Ed gets

00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:32.900
off stage to when Ed's on stage too, cause he's

00:43:32.900 --> 00:43:36.179
so chill and mellow. He's so intense on stage.

00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:39.360
Right. But then the complete opposite come after

00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:42.480
the show or whatever. I'm like, man this guy

00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:44.960
fucking got some ups and downs like crazy like

00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:48.860
i can never go from to hey nice to meet you i

00:43:48.860 --> 00:43:52.119
would still be so gracie i was i was uh i was

00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.099
listening to different eras of of your drumming

00:43:54.099 --> 00:43:56.659
right and obviously not to bring up a bad subject

00:43:56.659 --> 00:43:58.599
but you weren't involved in that ep we know this

00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:00.460
because of your your guys's long video that was

00:44:00.460 --> 00:44:02.820
robin ds that is correct yes you listen like

00:44:02.820 --> 00:44:06.079
you you listen through the stuff and then the

00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:09.000
turn gets kind of shit on because of what it

00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:10.860
was with christian but your drumming on there

00:44:10.860 --> 00:44:14.360
was killer. Thank you. I love the turn. I popped

00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:17.920
up on shuffle and like, you seemed inspired on

00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:20.199
there. Like, did you have freedom to drum how

00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:23.420
you wanted? Did you, and I'm a total Neanderthal

00:44:23.420 --> 00:44:26.260
when it comes to what you can do. Right. So this

00:44:26.260 --> 00:44:28.940
is, this is not anything against that. Okay.

00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:32.639
Just let me preface by saying that we, when we

00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:36.119
wrote the gracious few record and the turn, we

00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:38.980
worked the way we used to work in life. in the

00:44:38.980 --> 00:44:41.360
early days when we wrote mental jewelry, throwing

00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:43.239
copper, secret samadhi, and distance to hear.

00:44:44.139 --> 00:44:46.519
And then Ed, because he was sick of Chad Taron

00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:48.739
saying he wrote the songs, didn't want to really

00:44:48.739 --> 00:44:50.940
write with Chad anymore. So that broke apart

00:44:50.940 --> 00:44:54.719
that relationship, which was, I think, the core

00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:57.719
to the magic of the band is those two sitting

00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:00.199
down. Chad came out with his, I mean, listen,

00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:02.679
I'll give Chad credit where credit is due. Chad's

00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:04.840
badass fucking grungy guitar parts that he would

00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:08.559
come on with would be cool. Um, and then I would

00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:10.400
figure out cool lyrics to him and we sit in a

00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:13.159
room and we'd all fucking hash it out. That's

00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:15.320
what we would do. Of course, Ed then would write

00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:18.460
all the lyrics and melody period done end of

00:45:18.460 --> 00:45:22.980
story. And so that whole process stopped on after

00:45:22.980 --> 00:45:27.780
distance to hear. And so you have five, which

00:45:27.780 --> 00:45:30.199
was basically the first time that was like, here's

00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:34.960
all the songs you come in and play on. I love

00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:38.840
Ed and I'm not an artist. Yeah. But Ed was rapping,

00:45:39.219 --> 00:45:44.840
like what? I'm like, uh, this is like new metal.

00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:50.400
What is this song? Birds of prey though. Maybe

00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:52.000
you can clarify this. There's a couple of moments

00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:53.539
that said that you guys wrote on there. Was that

00:45:53.539 --> 00:45:55.760
just, just to put it in writing that you guys

00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:58.920
wrote on there? No, there was, yeah, I should

00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:01.340
go back and say that birds of prey. There was

00:46:01.340 --> 00:46:03.679
a period where we got into a studio and actually

00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:06.219
did. work on like lighthouse and a couple of

00:46:06.219 --> 00:46:10.119
those songs that like and she had to be you guys

00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:12.480
she the second track like you guys came back

00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:14.800
to live it seemed like when you guys did birds

00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:17.159
of prey tour if you go and watch all the videos

00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:19.420
and listen to the recordings you could tell there's

00:46:19.420 --> 00:46:21.400
an energy there that hadn't been around since

00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:24.480
like 99 you can see it went like flat it came

00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:26.219
back and then like two years later it was gone

00:46:26.219 --> 00:46:28.500
again yeah like it was really weird it was like

00:46:28.500 --> 00:46:32.400
a reemergence of your band well i mean yeah i

00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:35.579
think it was You know, I think Ed agreed to do

00:46:35.579 --> 00:46:37.480
that kind of studio thing we did in Nashville.

00:46:37.539 --> 00:46:39.300
We got in a studio and like wrote together. I

00:46:39.300 --> 00:46:42.400
was like the old days for a little bit. And I

00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:43.960
don't know why what prompted him to do that,

00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:47.699
but then probably, you know, after that. Maybe,

00:46:47.699 --> 00:46:50.500
you know, I'm not sure why he regressed. I don't

00:46:50.500 --> 00:46:52.039
know if Chad Taylor did something or whatever,

00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:54.780
but you know, a lot of this is hinging on the

00:46:54.780 --> 00:46:58.079
relationship between Chad and Ed and it's classic

00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:00.159
lead singer, lead guitar player relationship.

00:47:01.019 --> 00:47:05.019
Hey, Jimmy Robert plant. Yeah. And sometimes

00:47:05.019 --> 00:47:07.280
they don't get along and that's where we are.

00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:11.019
And unfortunately you have, I mean, Chad Taylor

00:47:11.019 --> 00:47:13.400
wants to be a lead singer. What's he doing in

00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:15.519
his, in his little show he's doing. He's going

00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:19.659
to sing everything. That's crazy. Okay. So his

00:47:19.659 --> 00:47:22.000
credit, he doesn't, he doesn't have some of the

00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.329
better backup vocals I've heard. Yes, but they

00:47:24.329 --> 00:47:27.809
are strange backing vocals. Like they're, they're,

00:47:27.809 --> 00:47:29.690
they're unique, but it's not like you're like,

00:47:29.710 --> 00:47:31.610
Oh, that's a great voice beyond there. It just

00:47:31.610 --> 00:47:34.550
fits their music very well. You can always tell

00:47:34.550 --> 00:47:36.210
when there's like really shitty backup vocals.

00:47:36.309 --> 00:47:38.949
Like in the latter years, cause I'm a diehard

00:47:38.949 --> 00:47:40.969
Stone Cold Pilots fan too. And in the latter

00:47:40.969 --> 00:47:44.610
years, Scott in his like drug laden end of it

00:47:44.610 --> 00:47:46.630
all, he was with this guy. I believe his name

00:47:46.630 --> 00:47:48.889
was Tommy Black. He was the, was the guy, the

00:47:48.889 --> 00:47:51.030
bassist. He was the bassist and he was in the

00:47:51.030 --> 00:47:54.360
back of vocals. And it was like, Uh, no, like,

00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:56.460
and he was singing over Scott Wylan. I'm like,

00:47:56.960 --> 00:48:01.199
Oh boy. Oh shit. This is. Awful and like destroying

00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:02.739
a live performance. Which band are you talking

00:48:02.739 --> 00:48:06.260
about? STP or the belt? So Scott Wylan, after

00:48:06.260 --> 00:48:08.639
they fired him, they fired him in 13. Oh, and

00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:10.260
you had, Oh, he did his own band. That's right.

00:48:11.159 --> 00:48:14.000
His own firing because he, he went and toured

00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:16.500
the first two albums on his own with a five piece

00:48:16.500 --> 00:48:19.199
band. And then it was called the wildabouts.

00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:21.579
And then the wildabouts afterwards, he condensed

00:48:21.579 --> 00:48:25.119
it in. he kicked out that guy, Doug Grion, and

00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:27.159
then he became like a normal four piece band.

00:48:27.179 --> 00:48:29.340
And then his guitar has died. He died within

00:48:29.340 --> 00:48:31.940
a year, but the long and the short is Scott Weiland

00:48:31.940 --> 00:48:34.420
and the wild abouts. They were out touring like

00:48:34.420 --> 00:48:37.079
this surprisingly good album called Blaster.

00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.519
But this, this black guy, that's his last name.

00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:41.980
He was, he was singing over Scott Weiland when

00:48:41.980 --> 00:48:44.500
I saw them. I'm like, this is horrible. I'm like,

00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:46.519
how do you do over Scott Weiland? Chad, have

00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:48.860
you heard Chad Taylor's version of lightning

00:48:48.860 --> 00:48:51.179
crashes where he does every instrument and sings?

00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:57.260
Did that exist? Yeah, dude. He sounds like the,

00:48:57.780 --> 00:49:01.780
the, it's all it's piano rather than guitar and

00:49:01.780 --> 00:49:05.280
stuff. And then his effect that he has on vocal.

00:49:05.500 --> 00:49:08.079
Yes. He's using auto -tune, but he made it to

00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:10.960
where it sounds like a boy band rendition of

00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:13.320
it. You really have to hear it. I wish we had

00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:15.920
our producer on this week so he could pull it

00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:18.409
up for us, but that Rob Bobby Yankee slacking

00:49:18.409 --> 00:49:20.369
somewhere. This is, this is hilarious to me.

00:49:20.690 --> 00:49:23.670
And this is, you know, classic Chad Taylor. So

00:49:23.670 --> 00:49:25.849
probably the reason that we have not, that we

00:49:25.849 --> 00:49:27.630
did get back together and Chad got fired was

00:49:27.630 --> 00:49:30.590
that when, you know, that, that, uh, dance version

00:49:30.590 --> 00:49:32.750
of lightning crashes were put out by that DJ.

00:49:33.849 --> 00:49:37.409
Yeah. Chad got wind of that. And apparently,

00:49:37.409 --> 00:49:39.590
and I don't have the full story, but apparently

00:49:39.590 --> 00:49:41.889
there was a call between Ed and Chad where Ed,

00:49:41.909 --> 00:49:44.210
where Chad was saying, how dare you do this to

00:49:44.210 --> 00:49:46.949
one of our, to one of my songs or. our song or

00:49:46.949 --> 00:49:48.610
whatever the fuck it was, he's gone off and it's

00:49:48.610 --> 00:49:51.489
like, fuck you. I can, you know, do what I want.

00:49:51.650 --> 00:49:55.150
Right. And I, I re sang it for the guy, you know,

00:49:55.210 --> 00:49:57.289
whatever. And I was all like, cool, this is great.

00:49:57.570 --> 00:49:58.989
Let's have a new version of lightning crashes

00:49:58.989 --> 00:50:00.489
and maybe it'll appeal to a different, you know,

00:50:00.489 --> 00:50:03.190
new audience. Absolutely. But then, but then

00:50:03.190 --> 00:50:06.829
to hear that now he's gone and done his own version

00:50:06.829 --> 00:50:09.570
of it. Yeah. It's just part of the course. It's

00:50:09.570 --> 00:50:11.429
like, he goes off on ed for it and then does

00:50:11.429 --> 00:50:14.750
it himself. It's like, okay. I almost wonder.

00:50:15.659 --> 00:50:18.820
If his was put out before Ed did that one, Josh,

00:50:18.900 --> 00:50:23.539
do you remember when, uh, put out this, um, uh,

00:50:23.619 --> 00:50:28.280
Dude, I don't, the last I heard was the last

00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:30.199
I heard was like the whole toss up here. It was

00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:32.599
like, it was like the confusion, right? Like

00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:34.400
a few months. It was like around the time all

00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:37.059
the bullshit happened to me, but it was like,

00:50:37.420 --> 00:50:40.260
uh, he took, he said something about he wrote

00:50:40.260 --> 00:50:42.300
lightning crashes and then Ed was like, fuck

00:50:42.300 --> 00:50:44.909
you. And then Ed went, Ed went off and just wiped

00:50:44.909 --> 00:50:46.929
out everybody else. And as we know, there's,

00:50:46.929 --> 00:50:48.630
there's litigation going on there too. So maybe

00:50:48.630 --> 00:50:52.389
that's Ed's guys right now for why, but the,

00:50:52.389 --> 00:50:54.230
the long and short is it was like that dude doing

00:50:54.230 --> 00:50:57.650
a rendition. I love when you say that for some

00:50:57.650 --> 00:51:01.210
reason. Well, it's like a old, I guess it's like

00:51:01.210 --> 00:51:03.110
a, an old world word same for something that's

00:51:03.110 --> 00:51:05.329
not going to be long and short, right? So hold

00:51:05.329 --> 00:51:07.550
on a second. Let me see if I could do this. Let

00:51:07.550 --> 00:51:11.409
me see if I could share this. Uh, for you. I

00:51:11.409 --> 00:51:12.789
don't even want to hear this. Are you going to

00:51:12.789 --> 00:51:16.750
do this? Just the initial of it because it's

00:51:16.750 --> 00:51:20.550
that bad. Oh, God. Well, to earn some brownie

00:51:20.550 --> 00:51:22.369
points for Mr. Taylor, he doesn't think I hate

00:51:22.369 --> 00:51:26.409
him, should I clap? Yes, please. Share screen.

00:51:26.889 --> 00:51:28.409
You don't need to earn brownie points for Chad

00:51:28.409 --> 00:51:38.670
Taylor. You're funny. Here we go. There's that.

00:51:39.070 --> 00:51:45.710
Let's see. You guys can't hear, right? I can't

00:51:45.710 --> 00:52:17.369
hear it. Like, it's a little homoerotic in my

00:52:17.369 --> 00:52:22.190
mind. Wait, I'm confused. Who's singing here?

00:52:22.550 --> 00:52:26.510
That's Chad Taylor. Chad Taylor's voice sounds

00:52:26.510 --> 00:52:28.210
like that, like when he's normally sings. That

00:52:28.210 --> 00:52:30.329
doesn't sound like his voice at all to me, but...

00:52:30.329 --> 00:52:34.670
You could tell he's got the autotune on. I mean,

00:52:34.789 --> 00:52:37.650
unless he had... Obviously. And he's pretending

00:52:37.650 --> 00:52:41.090
like he's singing, I don't know, but... Oh, I

00:52:41.090 --> 00:52:42.150
didn't know it was Chet Taylor. I thought it

00:52:42.150 --> 00:52:45.849
was the other guy. Why? You made the obscure

00:52:45.849 --> 00:52:47.389
comment, right? And then I'm like, and then you're

00:52:47.389 --> 00:52:48.510
like, by the way, it's Chet Taylor. I'm like,

00:52:48.610 --> 00:52:50.269
huh? I thought it was the other guy that started

00:52:50.269 --> 00:52:52.610
the whole like hubbub a few months ago. Yeah.

00:52:52.750 --> 00:52:56.929
No, that's supposedly him. Um, but what a, how

00:52:56.929 --> 00:53:00.849
funny, how funny, like, you know, like, and I've

00:53:00.849 --> 00:53:03.269
said this to Gracie before, but like how funny

00:53:03.269 --> 00:53:06.210
in a whacked out world could I even come on his

00:53:06.210 --> 00:53:09.550
radar? Like someone like him. Cause it's like,

00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:11.940
I'm just a random guy on Facebook that moderates.

00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:13.840
I don't even, I became a moderator because Nick

00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:15.760
Sacko was like, will you write a review of live?

00:53:15.860 --> 00:53:18.460
I'm trying to get them pings on Yahoo or whatever.

00:53:18.579 --> 00:53:20.239
It's like a few years ago, I said, well, dude,

00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:22.340
give me some sort of clout. Cause I like to,

00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:25.340
I'm a nerd. So I also admin a stone tumble pilot's

00:53:25.340 --> 00:53:27.820
page as like 600 people. And I grew it from like

00:53:27.820 --> 00:53:30.480
40 when I took it over a few years ago. Nice.

00:53:30.539 --> 00:53:33.039
So I sure, yeah, I'll do that. Well, then I got

00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:35.539
Bill's attention because Bill, Bill and I got

00:53:35.539 --> 00:53:38.679
to talking, not because I like to abuse women

00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:42.179
or whatever he's implicated you sure are um uh

00:53:42.179 --> 00:53:45.679
no yeah no i'm not but bill i earn his respect

00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:46.920
because bill's like you know of all the people

00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:49.760
here you don't you you're like non -biased he's

00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:51.800
like you seem to have the intentions of the band

00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:54.119
right you rarely say anything dramatic and you

00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:56.320
post a lot of content so like we started talking

00:53:56.320 --> 00:53:58.960
a few years ago he he would tell me stuff like

00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:00.380
when they're about to tour and just stuff like

00:54:00.380 --> 00:54:03.260
that he's like you deserve to know because you're

00:54:03.260 --> 00:54:05.579
a legitimate fan that's how i got to know a guy

00:54:05.579 --> 00:54:07.840
like that and then through him I was blessed

00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:11.119
to get to know Gracie a little bit but it's so

00:54:11.119 --> 00:54:14.039
surreal to me that like as all this happened

00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:17.820
after two year break then I'm like I'm in articles

00:54:17.820 --> 00:54:20.500
right I'm like and there's this guy from a band

00:54:20.500 --> 00:54:23.000
that sold how many millions of albums did you

00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:26.460
guys sell Gracie I mean just a little yeah it's

00:54:26.460 --> 00:54:30.460
over 20 something this guy got recorded and you

00:54:30.460 --> 00:54:32.940
know Alice I told 20 million and I'm just like

00:54:32.940 --> 00:54:36.299
a freaking nobody and I'm so important implicated

00:54:36.299 --> 00:54:40.079
me in this like me too movement -esque type of

00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:42.780
thing. I'm like, dude, that's like, I don't know.

00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:44.760
And I didn't want to say anything hateful back

00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:46.760
when it happened either. I was just like, I'm

00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:48.940
just confused. I don't know what happens here

00:54:48.940 --> 00:54:51.239
if I shoot my mouth off because unfortunately

00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:53.099
with the internet, man, you say the wrong thing.

00:54:53.320 --> 00:54:56.440
Everyone's looking for you to fall down. Well,

00:54:56.539 --> 00:54:59.920
they could be the right feather for sure. You

00:54:59.920 --> 00:55:02.480
know? Right. And then people like, like you,

00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:04.139
John, you're like, why are you not saying anything?

00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:05.559
You, you're a person, you have rights. And I'm

00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:08.280
like, do what if they do come after me? Like,

00:55:08.500 --> 00:55:10.420
what if that happened? I'm like, ah, that's not

00:55:10.420 --> 00:55:12.480
going to be good. Yeah. They didn't have a fucking

00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:16.320
leg to stand on the car. That's a hard time enforcing

00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:19.800
subpoenas across state lines. But anyway, especially

00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:22.760
when you can't hold onto a lawyer. Yeah. Now

00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:25.659
it gets a little difficult. Josh, I definitely

00:55:25.659 --> 00:55:28.539
wanted you to come on to tell that story. Um,

00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:30.440
and we'll definitely have you on again to talk

00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:32.880
about some other cool shit that's going on. Next

00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:35.199
time I come on, I will, we don't have to hard

00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:37.780
pop that one. It's cool that you gave me the

00:55:37.780 --> 00:55:41.760
stage to, to say all that in, in, um, in exiting

00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:45.199
here, Gracie, you have to tell John how big of

00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:47.039
a badass Jimmy Chamberlain is from the Smashing

00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:48.820
Pumpkins. We were talking the other day and he

00:55:48.820 --> 00:55:52.320
was like, John doesn't know this. I'm like, are

00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:54.400
you fucking kidding me? Like Jimmy Chamberlain

00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:56.969
is like a a top five guitarist, or sorry, guitarist,

00:55:57.070 --> 00:55:59.590
drummer of the nineties. Like I just saw on Saturday

00:55:59.590 --> 00:56:02.429
in Noblesville. And Jimmy Chamberlain is just

00:56:02.429 --> 00:56:05.929
a total and utter like badass. Like he sets the

00:56:05.929 --> 00:56:07.949
total heartbeat of that band. Did you wait? So

00:56:07.949 --> 00:56:11.349
you went to Hopkins? Yeah. So check this shit

00:56:11.349 --> 00:56:13.590
out. There's a, and maybe you guys can discuss

00:56:13.590 --> 00:56:16.050
this some more. And it's, it's kind of a conspiracy

00:56:16.050 --> 00:56:18.349
theory. It's kind of sexy to talk about. Do we

00:56:18.349 --> 00:56:20.929
notice the recent trend and Chad, you're, you're

00:56:20.929 --> 00:56:23.530
an artist. So you might like this one. Uh, bands

00:56:23.530 --> 00:56:25.570
not performing and they're all disappearing to

00:56:25.570 --> 00:56:28.030
illness, quote unquote. So Pearl Jam did this.

00:56:28.269 --> 00:56:30.030
I had tickets to go see Pearl Jam with my best

00:56:30.030 --> 00:56:32.550
friend on Sunday. So we came down on Saturday

00:56:32.550 --> 00:56:35.449
and on a whim, I caught lawn seats at the same,

00:56:35.730 --> 00:56:37.949
the same place. That's the Ruoff, which I know

00:56:37.949 --> 00:56:39.630
you guys performed what back when it was Deerfield,

00:56:39.829 --> 00:56:42.989
right? Gracie, you know, in Atlas area. Yes.

00:56:43.369 --> 00:56:46.090
Yep. I think you performed there 2000 and multiple

00:56:46.090 --> 00:56:49.110
times. Um, I saw the pumpkins and the next day

00:56:49.110 --> 00:56:50.789
I had tickets for Pearl Jam and then Pearl Jam.

00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:53.260
post -pone, like four hours before they're like,

00:56:53.500 --> 00:56:54.960
there's an illness, sorry, we'll be back. Well,

00:56:54.980 --> 00:56:57.659
then I noticed Guns N' Roses just announced something

00:56:57.659 --> 00:57:01.119
like five hours ago of the same echo. And then

00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:03.179
Aerosmith had like, Steven Tyler's vocals are

00:57:03.179 --> 00:57:05.380
tired. But I mean, to his credit, what's the

00:57:05.380 --> 00:57:07.940
guy like 65 years old? I mean, who can sing like

00:57:07.940 --> 00:57:11.440
that? I mean, there's a continuum right now of

00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:13.960
illness. Is illness, not to get salacious here,

00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:17.460
but is illness COVID? Is illness We don't like,

00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:19.139
we're tired. I want to perform today. What is

00:57:19.139 --> 00:57:21.480
illness? This is a real weird. I have my theory,

00:57:23.099 --> 00:57:30.000
but my theory. I would, I would, uh, I would

00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:35.199
say Vax. Yeah, that's just me. But COVID gave

00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:38.880
them the out to like cancel shows and postpone

00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:42.349
shows and not have to. uh right away give money

00:57:42.349 --> 00:57:44.710
back to the fans that have them because the shows

00:57:44.710 --> 00:57:47.389
aren't canceled they're just postponed so i've

00:57:47.389 --> 00:57:50.949
heard that going on as well uh so your theory

00:57:50.949 --> 00:57:53.909
is that your your theory is the the the vaccine

00:57:53.909 --> 00:57:57.110
for why they have illness like for why they're

00:57:57.110 --> 00:57:59.389
not performing under the guy's illness like that's

00:57:59.389 --> 00:58:02.429
what your theory is good having having just heard

00:58:02.429 --> 00:58:06.389
all this that's my first go -to yes like they're

00:58:06.389 --> 00:58:08.230
sick like they're like the vaccines are making

00:58:08.230 --> 00:58:12.170
them sick oh yeah Yeah, I mean, you're more likely,

00:58:12.289 --> 00:58:13.630
I mean, as now studies are coming out, you're

00:58:13.630 --> 00:58:17.710
more likely to get COVID after having the vaccine.

00:58:18.090 --> 00:58:21.090
Yeah. Let alone all the complications it's causing.

00:58:21.489 --> 00:58:24.210
Here's me. And I told you guys earlier, and Chad

00:58:24.210 --> 00:58:26.369
Taylor told you all too, I'm 37 years old, right?

00:58:26.710 --> 00:58:30.750
And there's a huge group of people my age that

00:58:30.750 --> 00:58:33.130
just suddenly dropped dead right after they got

00:58:33.130 --> 00:58:35.170
the shots. And I have the shots. I got the shots

00:58:35.170 --> 00:58:37.090
because we just had our daughter in the middle

00:58:37.090 --> 00:58:39.440
of COVID and I... wanted to go see bad asses

00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:42.019
like Chagre see and all those people live. And

00:58:42.019 --> 00:58:43.760
I'm like, this, this is my ticket to getting

00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:45.619
back in the world. And I work in retail in the

00:58:45.619 --> 00:58:47.840
public. I'm like, if I can, if this could be

00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:50.059
my ticket to be out, out and about, I got them.

00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:51.400
Well, then I started hearing about all these

00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:54.280
people dropping dead. I'm like, dude, and I'm

00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:56.920
not trying to be that guy right now, but I don't

00:58:56.920 --> 00:58:59.739
feel confident anymore shots. No. And then no,

00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:01.820
no one's backing them. Who's backing these shots?

00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:04.510
Because at the time the shots came out, Uh, no

00:59:04.510 --> 00:59:06.050
one actually backed them. They're like, if something

00:59:06.050 --> 00:59:07.849
happened, like, am I right on this? They were

00:59:07.849 --> 00:59:10.809
like, well, Josh, so, I mean, I've, I've known

00:59:10.809 --> 00:59:13.789
about this issue for a long time since 2009 when

00:59:13.789 --> 00:59:18.489
I had my son. So there, you, you know, uh, vaccine

00:59:18.489 --> 00:59:21.309
manufacturer has, has liability. None of them.

00:59:21.349 --> 00:59:23.590
They were given immunity by the U S government

00:59:23.590 --> 00:59:27.630
back in 1986. And this is, and you're doubly,

00:59:27.929 --> 00:59:29.550
if something happens to you with the COVID backs,

00:59:29.730 --> 00:59:31.750
you can't even now go through the U S government.

00:59:31.849 --> 00:59:34.590
because it's emergency use authorized, you have

00:59:34.590 --> 00:59:38.090
no recourse with the COVID backs to, to the company,

00:59:38.170 --> 00:59:40.769
to the U S government, nobody. So if you, if

00:59:40.769 --> 00:59:43.050
you die, you know, God forbid, if you die or

00:59:43.050 --> 00:59:44.789
if you're injured by it, there's nothing you

00:59:44.789 --> 00:59:50.090
can do. Yeah. So, so I have these, I have these

00:59:50.090 --> 00:59:52.150
shots, man. I did the, I did the first two you

00:59:52.150 --> 00:59:54.630
got to do. And then I did the last, or not the

00:59:54.630 --> 00:59:56.250
most recent boots, but like at the time, the

00:59:56.250 --> 00:59:59.070
first booster backed off. When I started hearing

00:59:59.070 --> 01:00:03.010
all these guys, my age, I'm like, that just like

01:00:03.010 --> 01:00:07.829
what it was like how do you see dying died suddenly

01:00:07.829 --> 01:00:11.469
on have you seen that no i shouldn't watch it

01:00:11.469 --> 01:00:12.969
because i'm starting to like after you read about

01:00:12.969 --> 01:00:14.449
enough of these deaths of your age group you

01:00:14.449 --> 01:00:16.010
start going to bed at night thinking am i gonna

01:00:16.010 --> 01:00:19.510
die you start having that like i mean we absolutely

01:00:19.510 --> 01:00:21.849
hope hope that does not happen but yeah you should

01:00:21.849 --> 01:00:25.690
watch died suddenly yeah and and josh i mean

01:00:25.690 --> 01:00:30.420
i don't know I thought more on the realm of like

01:00:30.420 --> 01:00:32.420
checking out things. Were you really asking about

01:00:32.420 --> 01:00:36.039
the Vax and like, you know, the it's clear as

01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:40.000
day. If you go out there and it's not being broadcast

01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:43.000
around mainstream media, but it's definitely

01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:45.619
out there that people are getting strokes. People

01:00:45.619 --> 01:00:49.179
are getting heart. Carditis. Yeah. Blood clots.

01:00:49.420 --> 01:00:52.340
I mean, you name it. I did it all. I did it all

01:00:52.340 --> 01:00:54.179
like two years ago when the first wave came out.

01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:56.699
Then I started, I started researching all these

01:00:56.809 --> 01:00:59.590
all these people, um, perishing. And I'm like,

01:00:59.690 --> 01:01:02.329
uh, no, I don't feel good about that. It's kind

01:01:02.329 --> 01:01:05.010
of like the masks are funny too. Cause it's like

01:01:05.010 --> 01:01:07.369
people reuse a paper mask, which there's no way

01:01:07.369 --> 01:01:09.989
in hell that sanitary kids were wearing the mask

01:01:09.989 --> 01:01:12.130
to school. And then they were, they were coughing

01:01:12.130 --> 01:01:13.690
within their masks. So when you traffic your

01:01:13.690 --> 01:01:15.969
germs, like you start thinking, where does that

01:01:15.969 --> 01:01:18.969
go? And then it created this weird society of

01:01:18.969 --> 01:01:20.670
no one knows other people because they don't

01:01:20.670 --> 01:01:23.210
see half their face. So there's like this weird

01:01:23.210 --> 01:01:26.320
gray world of like, Just a lot of the social

01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:28.800
aspects of the world went away. And in my lifetime,

01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:30.099
if you would have told me when I was growing

01:01:30.099 --> 01:01:32.079
up in the nineties, when you guys were rocking

01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:34.960
Chad, um, if you had told me at that time, like

01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:37.019
this would have been reality. Like when you're

01:01:37.019 --> 01:01:38.800
in your thirties, I'd been like, sure. Yeah,

01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:41.099
that's a sci -fi movie. Right. Like that, like

01:01:41.099 --> 01:01:42.960
what channel are we on? And then it happened.

01:01:43.079 --> 01:01:46.320
I'm like, what? Well, this is the thing about

01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:48.139
the mass too. They don't work. They don't, they

01:01:48.139 --> 01:01:49.940
don't protect you and they don't protect anyone

01:01:49.940 --> 01:01:52.949
else from you. I mean, maybe if you sneeze, they

01:01:52.949 --> 01:01:56.590
don't get spilled on them. I had them all the

01:01:56.590 --> 01:01:59.429
95 and all those. I had all these masks, right?

01:01:59.489 --> 01:02:01.690
When it came out, I think is the only one that

01:02:01.690 --> 01:02:07.110
arguably could do some help the N 95. Yeah. Yeah.

01:02:07.210 --> 01:02:09.010
But you're, you still, it's still coming out

01:02:09.010 --> 01:02:11.090
the sides and you're breathing in the sides.

01:02:11.250 --> 01:02:13.909
It's like, if you could smell a fart, if you

01:02:13.909 --> 01:02:16.210
could smell a fart, then you could get code.

01:02:16.369 --> 01:02:18.929
Exactly. I'll put it that way. And your fart

01:02:18.929 --> 01:02:21.449
particles are way bigger than virus viral particles.

01:02:21.829 --> 01:02:25.809
Right. But the good news is one day it disappeared,

01:02:26.010 --> 01:02:28.389
like the the mandate to wear the mask. So it's

01:02:28.389 --> 01:02:34.590
funny how that works. It evaporated. Mr. Joshi,

01:02:34.590 --> 01:02:36.409
do you want to give out any socials or anything

01:02:36.409 --> 01:02:40.489
or do you want to be anonymous? Socials like

01:02:40.489 --> 01:02:42.469
you want to tell people where they can follow

01:02:42.469 --> 01:02:46.650
you on social media or not? Well, if anybody's

01:02:46.650 --> 01:02:48.190
on the fans live page, you'll see me comment

01:02:48.190 --> 01:02:50.809
on the on the one that I don't have. I'm not

01:02:50.809 --> 01:02:52.650
like you guys where I have like a cool Instagram

01:02:52.650 --> 01:02:55.809
or I'm nowhere near as popular as a, as a Chad

01:02:55.809 --> 01:02:57.849
grace here at John Rodolo. Do you want to give

01:02:57.849 --> 01:02:59.869
them your only fans account? Because we know

01:02:59.869 --> 01:03:04.030
you're on there naked. You weren't supposed to

01:03:04.030 --> 01:03:08.309
tell. I heard it was feet only. I don't have

01:03:08.309 --> 01:03:11.250
anything. Josh licked in balls is what he does.

01:03:13.230 --> 01:03:16.769
Yeah. If I ever start a blog one day, uh, we

01:03:16.769 --> 01:03:19.090
can discuss there, but right now I have nothing.

01:03:19.269 --> 01:03:21.730
Matter of fact, you should do Josh, because you

01:03:21.730 --> 01:03:24.110
do, you're right. So fricking well, and you should

01:03:24.110 --> 01:03:26.190
do that. And then we'll let you come on and promo

01:03:26.190 --> 01:03:29.730
it on here. That'd be cool. All right, my man.

01:03:29.849 --> 01:03:32.269
Good talking to you. Thanks, Josh. Take care,

01:03:32.369 --> 01:03:39.289
bud. Holy schnikes that I had no idea about the

01:03:39.289 --> 01:03:41.329
musician thing. I haven't heard about this and

01:03:41.329 --> 01:03:43.190
you know, Of course, everyone's going to be like,

01:03:43.190 --> 01:03:45.190
well, how can you just jump right to back? It's

01:03:45.190 --> 01:03:50.190
like most of those people got it. Right. And

01:03:50.190 --> 01:03:52.550
now you have, now you have them not being able

01:03:52.550 --> 01:03:56.849
to perform. And, you know, you don't, you don't

01:03:56.849 --> 01:03:58.929
hear about this on mainstream media about anybody

01:03:58.929 --> 01:04:01.550
dying or, or having any side effects from it,

01:04:01.550 --> 01:04:03.949
but it's happening all over the fricking place.

01:04:04.050 --> 01:04:06.829
It's like, there's a couple of video compilations

01:04:06.829 --> 01:04:09.860
of showing athletes, you know, fricking just

01:04:09.860 --> 01:04:12.599
pat, just going down on the field. Right. And

01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:14.320
then you have, you have, uh, there was, there

01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:16.960
was a one video where the guy was an ex soccer

01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:20.239
player is like in it. It's like pre COVID you've

01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:23.860
never ever saw an athlete collapse on the field

01:04:23.860 --> 01:04:28.460
of any sport. And the fact that post Vax, a lot

01:04:28.460 --> 01:04:32.159
of this shit is going down and nobody's, or if

01:04:32.159 --> 01:04:34.400
you do draw a relation to it, you're fucking

01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:36.960
looked at like you have a tin foil hat on. Right.

01:04:37.210 --> 01:04:39.369
It is crazy. That's by design too. I mean, it's

01:04:39.369 --> 01:04:42.050
just by design. You can't ask, you can't ask

01:04:42.050 --> 01:04:44.489
any questions anymore about anything. You have

01:04:44.489 --> 01:04:46.670
to take the narrative that's given to you and

01:04:46.670 --> 01:04:48.570
you can't ask any questions about it or people

01:04:48.570 --> 01:04:52.030
will attack you. And it's like, and I wouldn't

01:04:52.030 --> 01:04:54.829
be so emboldened to talk about this shit if everything,

01:04:55.110 --> 01:04:56.610
not everything, but most of the things that I

01:04:56.610 --> 01:05:01.369
thought that I learned during COVID became true.

01:05:01.530 --> 01:05:03.610
Right. And they were all things that were censored

01:05:03.610 --> 01:05:07.480
and suppressed. by social media, by mainstream

01:05:07.480 --> 01:05:10.860
media, by the government, by the CDC, by the

01:05:10.860 --> 01:05:14.980
FDA. It's like the mass, the VAX, Hunter Biden's

01:05:14.980 --> 01:05:18.780
laptop. It's like, okay, so you have people on

01:05:18.780 --> 01:05:20.880
the live forum saying, why is he a conspiracy

01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:23.099
theorist? It's like, well, I'm not a conspiracy

01:05:23.099 --> 01:05:25.599
theorist. I was just listening to Joe Rogan and

01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:27.059
Tulsi Gabbard. There was another guy on there,

01:05:27.079 --> 01:05:29.920
BJ something. He used to be a fighter, but he's

01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:33.159
a lying guy. He was saying, anytime there's a

01:05:33.159 --> 01:05:35.760
fact check, it's foreshadowing to the truth.

01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:40.480
It's very true. That's what happens. B .J. Penn.

01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:43.320
Yeah, B .J. Penn. Thank you. Yes. Yes. And so

01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:47.099
I guess my point is anyone that tells me now

01:05:47.099 --> 01:05:49.940
that that look down on me for being an experienced

01:05:49.940 --> 01:05:52.840
theorist, I just say, you know what? You keep

01:05:52.840 --> 01:05:54.719
being a sheeple, believe in what you want to

01:05:54.719 --> 01:05:57.360
believe, believe in the narratives given to you.

01:05:57.500 --> 01:06:00.380
Like the government has never lied to us in our

01:06:00.380 --> 01:06:02.920
whole fucking existence of this country. I mean,

01:06:03.139 --> 01:06:05.219
give me a break. I'm not anti -government, but

01:06:05.219 --> 01:06:09.239
they fucking lie. The mainstream media now just,

01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:11.579
there's no journalism to go fact check anything,

01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:14.659
really fact check it, do actual journalism. It's

01:06:14.659 --> 01:06:17.960
just, no, let's spout off whatever the government

01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:21.920
tells us to. And now you have the CIA tampered

01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:25.400
with Facebook and fucking the White House and

01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:28.679
Twitter and all these social medias were just

01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:31.900
like listening, oh yeah, we'll censor that content.

01:06:32.059 --> 01:06:34.920
No, we can't have that come out. It's just ridiculous

01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:38.360
what is happening. And I'm the fucking crazy

01:06:38.360 --> 01:06:42.059
guy. It's like, is the crazy person the one that

01:06:42.059 --> 01:06:45.780
knew the truth, the truth was suppressed and

01:06:45.780 --> 01:06:48.179
then the truth comes out? Or is the crazy person

01:06:48.179 --> 01:06:51.019
the one that Continuously believes what you're

01:06:51.019 --> 01:06:53.679
being told by the government and by mainstream

01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:57.400
media and by social media. We said last week

01:06:57.400 --> 01:07:01.179
that we wanted to do, take your conspiracy theories

01:07:01.179 --> 01:07:03.699
and actually go through and pick out the ones

01:07:03.699 --> 01:07:05.960
that came true, which were pretty much everything

01:07:05.960 --> 01:07:08.940
we spoke about. That will be a bit one day, ladies

01:07:08.940 --> 01:07:10.420
and gentlemen. So I'm going to write them all

01:07:10.420 --> 01:07:12.480
down. I got to do that as soon as we get off

01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:15.800
here. I forgot to do. Yeah. And we'll let you

01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:18.019
know which ones were fake, which ones were not,

01:07:18.099 --> 01:07:21.719
but. It's just insane. This this world we live

01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:26.559
in, you know, where, you know, people believe

01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:28.519
kind of what the fuck they want to believe. Or

01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:30.300
I guess really they're believing what's told

01:07:30.300 --> 01:07:33.380
to them, you know, across the board. But do your

01:07:33.380 --> 01:07:36.320
own research. Yeah. But like pre pre covid when

01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:38.380
you did when you said I do my own research, you

01:07:38.380 --> 01:07:41.440
weren't like looked down upon and like people

01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:43.840
were crazy for doing that. It's like that's what's

01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:46.119
fucking nuts about it. everyone people believe

01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:48.940
now it's crazy for you to go out and find your

01:07:48.940 --> 01:07:51.079
own information about something and make your

01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:54.980
own decision about it what like where the fuck

01:07:54.980 --> 01:07:57.539
do we live like what clown world are we living

01:07:57.539 --> 01:08:00.940
in where that's now looked down upon right right

01:08:01.369 --> 01:08:03.429
Well, I think we spoke about it last week, but

01:08:03.429 --> 01:08:06.289
I said, if there's ever a fucking mask mandate

01:08:06.289 --> 01:08:09.250
again, I'm not wearing it. And anybody who has

01:08:09.250 --> 01:08:11.289
a problem with me not wearing it, because that

01:08:11.289 --> 01:08:13.349
was that was a thing where they could say, hey,

01:08:13.489 --> 01:08:15.449
you, you don't have your mask on and people.

01:08:15.570 --> 01:08:18.109
Oh, yes. Sorry. It was like communist style.

01:08:18.109 --> 01:08:19.829
Fucking, you know, point out your neighbor and

01:08:19.829 --> 01:08:21.750
have them fucking sense of the gulag because

01:08:21.750 --> 01:08:23.649
you're not wearing a mask. It's like, this is

01:08:23.649 --> 01:08:26.289
where we are as a country. Oh, you're not wearing

01:08:26.289 --> 01:08:29.949
a mask. Oh, my God. The massive doesn't do shit.

01:08:30.620 --> 01:08:34.100
Right. Now I'm going to wipe my ass with my mask

01:08:34.100 --> 01:08:36.479
and put it in that person's face who was asking

01:08:36.479 --> 01:08:40.800
me where my mask is and say, Oh boy. And then

01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:42.720
sadly there's still people out there that believe

01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:45.300
all this fucking shit. I believe that mass work

01:08:45.300 --> 01:08:47.060
and they're going to still continue to wear them.

01:08:47.239 --> 01:08:49.140
And that's their choice. Go ahead and wear a

01:08:49.140 --> 01:08:52.699
mask, but like it doesn't do anything. It doesn't

01:08:52.699 --> 01:08:55.699
help you. There's still people who believe that

01:08:55.699 --> 01:08:58.539
Trump was part of Russia collusion. Oh, my God.

01:08:59.300 --> 01:09:02.220
These people are. Yeah, this this this just started

01:09:02.220 --> 01:09:07.279
in 2016. 16 for me. Oh, Chad, here's a good thing

01:09:07.279 --> 01:09:11.460
that you another conspiracy is that since you

01:09:11.460 --> 01:09:14.359
have these thoughts that that's the reason why

01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:16.479
live is no. I know I've seen that one. That's

01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:20.420
hilarious. Yeah, that's that's just so funny.

01:09:20.420 --> 01:09:23.319
I mean. I mean, people get to make up their own

01:09:23.319 --> 01:09:27.699
things. Here's the conspiracy theory. Not true.

01:09:28.220 --> 01:09:32.640
Not true. Period, end of story. That's not the

01:09:32.640 --> 01:09:36.739
main focal point there. Yeah. All right. Well,

01:09:37.239 --> 01:09:39.939
anywho, ladies and gentlemen, it has been our

01:09:39.939 --> 01:09:42.619
pleasure and I'm sure your listening pleasure

01:09:42.619 --> 01:09:46.180
for another weekly show down the tube. I'm sure.

01:09:47.300 --> 01:09:50.210
Yeah. I get Josh on again, man. He took up like

01:09:50.210 --> 01:09:53.109
40 minutes of our, uh, of our show here. Yeah.

01:09:53.109 --> 01:09:55.510
He was great. Great. I love Josh. He's great

01:09:55.510 --> 01:09:59.229
guy. Good dude. Absolutely. Good dude. I should

01:09:59.229 --> 01:10:01.689
have stood his ground against Chad Taylor and

01:10:01.689 --> 01:10:03.430
the idiot lawyer, but Hey, that's, that's all

01:10:03.430 --> 01:10:05.750
right. I'm at least, I understand that he didn't

01:10:05.750 --> 01:10:08.489
want to be involved and have his name, but you

01:10:08.489 --> 01:10:11.069
know, and then Chad just basically dox's doxism.

01:10:11.069 --> 01:10:13.850
It's like, what the fuck, dude? This is unbelievable

01:10:13.850 --> 01:10:17.180
to me. I'm glad he got to come on and tell his

01:10:17.180 --> 01:10:20.140
side of the story or even just, even just the

01:10:20.140 --> 01:10:22.340
story, because a lot of people don't know that

01:10:22.340 --> 01:10:25.119
a fan was being persecuted like that for being

01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:30.180
a fan. It's crazy. But, um, you know where to

01:10:30.180 --> 01:10:33.039
catch them at the Chad Gracie for Instagram,

01:10:33.340 --> 01:10:36.500
uh, John Rotolo, wherever you want to find me

01:10:36.500 --> 01:10:39.569
should be good. And again, guys, thank you for

01:10:39.569 --> 01:10:42.850
listening. We'll have more and more stuff prepared

01:10:42.850 --> 01:10:45.130
as we go through. I am still working on that

01:10:45.130 --> 01:10:48.630
phone number for you guys to call in or also

01:10:48.630 --> 01:10:51.189
working on a way for maybe you guys to zoom in.

01:10:51.250 --> 01:10:53.489
So we could have more than just the two of our

01:10:53.489 --> 01:10:56.869
faces on here. Thanks for listening, guys. And

01:10:56.869 --> 01:10:59.250
Chad, if you want to say goodbye. Bye bye. Thank

01:10:59.250 --> 01:11:01.149
you. We'll continue to put the shit in bullshit.

01:11:01.989 --> 01:11:03.430
Yes. Bye bye.