The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 008 - Chris Zelenka (Bill Hynes)

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uh got it we are let me see and i always get

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that but i believe we are live ladies and gentlemen

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the gracious well oh my god uh i thought we were

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gonna have Chad Gracey with us but it seems we

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got somebody else is this uh michael the man

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myers OK, so he doesn't talk, apparently. Are

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you going to kill people tonight? Oh, my gosh.

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Am I safe? Oh, shit. Is anybody in the audience

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safe? Well, you saw that, ladies and gentlemen,

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nobody's safe. And I don't know if he killed.

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Is Chad Gracey alive? Okay, good, good. So you

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didn't kill him. Okay. Do you plan on killing

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him? Good, good. So he's safe. I'm not. I don't

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like this. This is freaky. Oh, what is that?

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What's going on? Mr. Myers is leaving. So I'm

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just doing the show by myself now. Get out of

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here. Get out of here. Oh, shoot. Yes. Who is

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that guy? Who the heck is going on? Who is that

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guy? But you got him out of there. Yeah, he's

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gone. Yes. Happy Halloween, ladies and gentlemen.

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We started off with a trick, not a treat. Happy

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Halloween. Yeah, man. Happy Halloween. So I guess

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we know who you are for Halloween. That's right.

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I dropped my girls off today in that mask. I'm

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going to pick them up with the Halloween music

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blaring out of my... car is that what that is

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right yes yeah we're trick -or -treating tonight

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i'll be wearing that mask it's a little hot no

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trunker treating no no okay we didn't even trunk

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or treat in 2020 our like our neighborhood was

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like fuck it we're doing it so where we lived

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at the time so we did it i mean even so i mean

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you're at somebody's door it's outside it's not

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like you're going in you know Exactly. But that

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was not in California. Yeah, in California. Absolutely.

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Orange County. I lived in Rancho Santa Maria

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at the time. My neighborhood was full on. We

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were like, yeah, let's go trick or treat. Oh,

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wow, dude. I thought Cali was serious about their

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lockdowns back then. Well, LA was. Orange County

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was a little more, well, a lot more open than

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LA. Yeah. They were literally bars. There was

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a bar in San Clemente that stayed open the whole

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time. never shut down like and did they get fined

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or anything or you probably don't know they threatened

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but no they tried no they just said go ahead

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and find us we're staying open and they did good

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man more people should have did that and then

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i think we said it last week like if these politicians

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uh paychecks were dependent upon how well the

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economy was doing in their area yeah isn't there

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a famous quote from warren buffett like i can

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solve the deficit you know And, you know, in

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like a minute, you just basically make all the

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congressmen and senators, you know, liable for

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the money, the overspending that they're doing.

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Dude, I don't see why that's not, you know, why

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that's not a thing unless it is like some kind

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of declared emergency. But I guess, yeah, they

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would have got away with that in COVID because

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it was the declared state of it. Yeah. But I

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mean, yeah, no one's trying to balance the budget.

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It's just like insane what's going on. Well,

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they're saying the homeless problem in Cali is

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basically all these people. Some people are getting

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paid $200 ,000 a year, and they have no incentive

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to solve the problem because if they do, the

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job goes. That's called the homeless industrial

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complex at this point. Chad, don't go there.

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They're going to say that you're a conspiracy

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theorist. I know. I don't care. Yeah, I don't

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care. It's a conspiracy fact. There's thousands

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and thousands of people making that hundreds

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of thousands of dollars and millions of dollars

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off of the crisis and that they have no incentive

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to solve it, just like you said earlier. Correct.

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I do want to let the audience know that we have

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a fun episode planned for y 'all. We have Mr.

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Chris Zelenka, I believe. Oh, yes. Correct. Coming

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on as a guest. Z -Man. That's his nickname. Z

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-Man. Man. And you know how I thought, what's

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up? Our lovely Rob, Bobby Yankee came in a little

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late today. We're going to dock his pay, so to

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speak. But anyway, so that member I was saying

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last week, like Chris does something cool. Like,

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I don't know what it is, but like maybe he started

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a fan base. He plays in a band that does like

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one of them is a straight up, I believe, live

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cover band. It's called Evil. and he hasn't he

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has like a few bands he has evil he has lakini's

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rooster yeah and he has uh what's the other one

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zed the lance see that one i don't know but the

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other two i do and man dude they're both fucking

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really talented uh people yeah and both bands

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are really good uh you get some good musicians

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and he's he's on the vocals kicking it yeah if

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they're ever playing in your area man you should

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do a little freaking guest spot just come on

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just play He usually plays up around Stroudsburg,

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Pennsylvania area. He lives somewhere up there.

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Easton is somewhere out there. It's a little

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far away if I'm in New York. You never know.

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Pennsylvania is just a big state, man. It's crazy

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you could drive for eight hours and not be halfway

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through the state. I don't know about that. It's

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close, dude. It's four hours to Pittsburgh from

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York. It's still big. Don't lie to me. That's

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what she said. It's still big. Michael Scott

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brought that back, made it more famous than it

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was, but he did not come up with that. That's

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what she said. Definitely did not. It's funny.

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It really is, dude. I love saying that. And then

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sometimes you can do, that's what he said. That's

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what they said. If I want to be fucking PC and

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talk about the trends. That's what Z said. Yeah,

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that's what Z said. Yeah, whatever. I can't say

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tranny. That's apparently not PC. That's definitely

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not good. But tranny, no. No. When you were growing

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so like this, you're fucking tranny. And if you

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were a guy and you now sound like this, you're

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a tranny. Oh, boy. I'm trans. Sorry, people.

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My ADHD is a wacky tabacky. So if I don't take

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my ADHD medicine, it, like, makes me hyper. Oh,

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okay. Yeah. Is that you today? We have Hyper

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John? You have Hyper John today. Sweet. Yeah.

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Because I feel like, because, like, I don't feel

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like. doing much afterwards you know and while

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it makes me um well it makes me calm i technically

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can't nap you know and i love a good nap napping

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is good as you get older you just want to nap

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you're like yeah good take a fucking nap let's

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do it crazy yeah how many uh hours of sleep you

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get to sleep at night me yeah i go to sleep around

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9 or 9 30. After I get the girls, the kids, especially

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when I have the kids. And then I'm usually up

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at like, I'll pop awake at 1 or 2 a .m. And I'm

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up for sometimes the rest of the night or sometimes

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like two or three hours and I go back to sleep.

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Wow. That is my daily sleeping pattern. Dude,

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so you totally need weed in your life, man. If

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you wake up at 2 a .m. I mean, I've tried edibles

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and take those at night and I've tried melatonin.

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I've tried. I do Z -Quil sometimes. That keeps

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me asleep sometimes, but not always. You've got

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to get the right edibles. One, it's got to be

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an Indica. Of course. That means Indica couch.

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Indica and couch. I mean, yeah, maybe they'll

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help you sleep through the night, but if you

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wake up at 2 or 3 o 'clock in the morning and

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take a couple hits off of something Indica, boom

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dude in 15 minutes you're back to bed in a well

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that's one of my problems i'm not taking any

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hits off enough so right no smoking for me or

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vaping yeah get the i mean dude i don't want

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to do that either i mean let me tell you for

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somebody i'm good sorry for somebody who's educated

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on the vape stuff dude big tobacco has put a

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bad taste in everybody's mouth because they're

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scared Oh, sure. No, no. I'm not saying it's

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horrible or anything. I just choose. I don't

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know. I just have always felt weird about inhaling

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shit into my lungs. Yeah. Whether it's vape or

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cigarettes or whatever. Yeah. I mean, there's

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four ingredients in the vapes. Well, I mean,

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with the THC, that could be. No, so there's four.

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There's your VG vegetable glycerin plant oil.

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Propylene glycol PG, which is in asthma inhalers.

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People have been putting that in their lungs

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forever. And then there's the, you know, the

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THC aspect of it, the weed. And then the last

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but not least, if they even do it is natural

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flavor extract. But a lot of times the weed vapes,

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they don't use it because the terpenes and stuff

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like that have their own flavor to it. And they

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want that to show through. So, I mean. As far

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as damage to your lungs, is it as good as inhaling

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air? No. But is it anywhere near tobacco or really

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like smoking regular weed? Negative. Way better.

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Yeah, I mean, I would agree. I definitely think

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it's better, but still not going to do it. Yeah.

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Well, I mean, because the way you eat your edibles,

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that's going to take a while to kick in by the

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time. So I've just, I've just relegated myself

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to it. That's, that's how I sleep. And I, you

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know, I get like four or five hours. I'm good.

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I don't, I'm not tired during the day. Right.

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It's not like I'm passing out. So yeah, it works.

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Hey, you, you know, your body, you know, you

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know what works for you, right? Like for people

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who I do really have bad sleep, but eventually

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you will sleep. Yes. Yes. What's the record?

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11 days or something. Is it really? I think I

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heard that. Bobby, look that one up. Yeah, Bobby,

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come on. Be on that. I think my son told me it

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was 11 days. He found it somewhere. Sober, that

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was, you're saying. I don't know what he was.

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I don't know yet. I don't know. Phoenix didn't

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tell me what was wrong with the guy, if he was

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on drugs or something, but 11 days. Yeah, if

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you're doing crystal meth or something. But I

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heard that after 72 hours. your body starts to

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naturally produce, I don't know what chemical,

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but a chemical that makes you start to hallucinate

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and get tripped. Probably DMT, I would imagine.

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Yeah, I mean, I know it does after, you know,

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close to death or, you know, shit like that.

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But I don't know if it does it at that point.

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I mean, imagine we have multiple psychedelics

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that our body can release. sleep deprivation

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yeah dude your son was right man phoenix shout

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out dude 11 days and 24 minutes breaking the

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period okay previous record of 200 jesus christ

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bobby let's see more because i want to see if

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it says that he was on something or if this was

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straight up so bad they do this on purpose it

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sounds like he was going for a record it sounds

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like he was going for a record no go up bob where

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you just click see more on the okay more butts

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He was a porn star. Yes, he was. We used to hang

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out with this girl named Alicia Class, and she

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was one of his girls. No. Fuck, dude. I loved

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her. I cannot tell you how much I loved her.

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She really liked me. This was like my single

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period, and I was afraid of her. Now I wouldn't

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be. Oh, my God. Idiot. Such an idiot is right.

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That's stupid. Dude. Dude, I've spanked it to

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her countless times, dude. She was, like, in

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my top five porn chicks. She was fucking hot,

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and I was fucking, I don't know, I was still,

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like, fresh out of my 20s and, like, ooh. Right,

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right. Oh, my God. Stupid ass. Like, dick and

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fucking. Yeah, well, I mean. She would have taught

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me things I didn't know. Yes, yes. You can't

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find her now, man. Like, she is, like, erased.

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Probably killed her. I hope not, but jeez. That's

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a, you know, crazy industry, those poor girls.

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They get sucked into that and then, you know,

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it usually doesn't spit them out very well. She

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seemed to really enjoy it. Well, I mean, a lot

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of them seem to, yeah. I mean, she seemed okay,

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but I'm just saying, not all of them get fucked

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up, but I think that industry fucks up women.

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Totally. I mean, they come into it fucked up

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and it doesn't help. Let's put it that way. Yeah.

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I mean, you're not going into that. Some do.

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Very, I don't think. many i don't think many

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do but some go into like hey i'm gonna be fucking

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anyway might as well fuck on camera get paid

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make my money be out well i mean that's that

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kind of goes along proliferation of uh only fans

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i mean kind of the same same thing totally that's

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gonna fuck up a whole generation man like either

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that or it's gonna wake us up to like sex is

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not so taboo and That's why it's different in

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Europe. Like sex is not a big deal in Europe.

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Like they have, you know, one of the page six

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girls and like they're naked, you know, in like

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the public newspaper and not naked, but topless

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at least. Yeah. So Europe is, Europe is way,

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you know, they're definitely more liberated in

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that sense. It's the United States had this whole,

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what is it called? The Puritans. And we still

00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:05.179
live by those puritanical fucking, I guess, feelings

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and rules. Yeah. Yeah. Don't talk about sex.

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Don't show it. I'm all for sexual liberation.

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Why not? Fuck it. Well, especially when we could

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show war and, like, people fucking getting their

00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:21.039
heads blown off and guts coming out. Like, that's

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cool, but don't do a titty. No titties. Speaking

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of titties, yes, yes, Y -E -S. This is Titty

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Tuesday, ladies and gentlemen. Yes. Starting

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Tuesday, yes. This is all from my brain because

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I remember Whip Em Out Wednesday was a big thing

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on some radio station in New York, New Jersey

00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:49.860
area. Well, good thing we are at the tail end

00:15:49.860 --> 00:15:56.960
of Cocktober, so. Yes. And for the, you know,

00:15:56.980 --> 00:15:59.220
ladies or whatever in the audience, we'll do

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some kind of fucking, you know, testicle Tuesday

00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:10.490
as well, you know. Bobby's not laughing. Yeah.

00:16:10.649 --> 00:16:14.250
Nice. Nice. That's our producer. He's supposed

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to be professional and not laugh at our stupidity.

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But Titty Tuesday, ladies and gentlemen, so you

00:16:22.789 --> 00:16:29.210
send us pics of your tits and we rate them. They

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could be good. You can age from anywhere from

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18 to like 24. No, I'm just kidding. It could

00:16:36.230 --> 00:16:39.450
be 18 to 100. I don't care. If you're a grandma.

00:16:41.730 --> 00:16:47.090
Mute yourself, Momo. Bobby, mute. Oh, shit. If

00:16:47.090 --> 00:16:53.230
you're 100, you know, and you think you got some

00:16:53.230 --> 00:16:57.730
nice boobies, send them in. The teacher on South

00:16:57.730 --> 00:16:59.990
Park that they introduced, Miss Chokes on Dick.

00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:03.559
You ever see her? Her titties would hang down

00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:05.079
long and they would hang out the bottom of her

00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:07.599
shirt. That was her fucking name, Miss Chokes

00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:10.460
on Dick. That's funny. That was a character for

00:17:10.460 --> 00:17:14.640
a long time. Oh, no. Chris Zelenka is having

00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:18.059
issues getting on and apparently needs to call

00:17:18.059 --> 00:17:22.660
in. Is it your video or something? Because you

00:17:22.660 --> 00:17:25.900
can just shut your video off, Chris, if you're

00:17:25.900 --> 00:17:27.880
listening out there. You don't have to be on

00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:30.660
video for the Zoom. I mean, I could bring it

00:17:30.660 --> 00:17:36.240
in that way. It's just kind of a weird thing

00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:39.720
doing because we can't see each other, so getting

00:17:39.720 --> 00:17:42.240
cues to know when to shut up when somebody's

00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:47.180
talking gets a little bit rough. But if you hear

00:17:47.180 --> 00:17:51.279
me, Chris, is it just that? You know what I'm

00:17:51.279 --> 00:17:59.250
saying? Okay, Bluetooth there. Make sure that's

00:17:59.250 --> 00:18:06.990
there. Settings. No. Roadcaster Pro 2, ladies

00:18:06.990 --> 00:18:11.049
and gentlemen. But, yeah, Chris, if you hear

00:18:11.049 --> 00:18:15.650
me, my man, like I said, we don't care about

00:18:15.650 --> 00:18:19.329
your video being on in Zoom. Just it would be

00:18:19.329 --> 00:18:22.009
a preference. Oh, even then would kind of fuck

00:18:22.009 --> 00:18:26.190
it up because I couldn't see it. Don't mind me.

00:18:26.650 --> 00:18:30.730
Don't mind. Bill's asking me if Michael Myers

00:18:30.730 --> 00:18:34.250
is a liberal and has COVID shots. Yeah, I wonder,

00:18:34.329 --> 00:18:39.170
huh? Doubt it. He's a serial killer. He's not

00:18:39.170 --> 00:18:44.009
worried about COVID shots. Right. Serial killer.

00:18:46.410 --> 00:18:49.549
All right. So anyway, what were we doing? So

00:18:49.549 --> 00:18:53.390
let me finish my Titty Tuesday. Yes. So yeah,

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send in your pictures, and we're going to go

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through them before the show. Pick out the top

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five or the top ten, and then rate them live

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on air for y 'all. Yes. It's very rock and roll.

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Very, very rock and roll. Rolling Stone's going

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to write another article about us. about chad

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and i and fucking make fun of me for this so

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that's why i said don't worry we're not being

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biased we have testicle tuesday and i and uh

00:19:24.029 --> 00:19:28.609
tranny tuesday too so yeah it's funny it's a

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sad day when rolling stone makes fun of you for

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being at the porn convention that was the strangest

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thing ever dude dude so i don't know if the audience

00:19:36.809 --> 00:19:39.430
knows this but chad do you want to say it or

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do you want me to say this story what are you

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going to talk about the rolling stone thing yeah

00:19:43.269 --> 00:19:46.640
yeah go ahead yeah so this what's the guy's name

00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:49.599
andy green andy green yeah he's a just a prolific

00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:53.059
writer at rolling stone andy fucking green balls

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um so he uh chad gets to go to the avn awards

00:19:58.339 --> 00:20:00.519
for those who don't know it's the adult video

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something but it's porn star awards and it's

00:20:04.099 --> 00:20:06.690
the big one it's like the grammys or the Emmys

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for the porn awards. So Chad gets an invite,

00:20:09.609 --> 00:20:12.529
and then I guess after or somewhere in between

00:20:12.529 --> 00:20:15.589
gets to go to a banging -ass suite, like top

00:20:15.589 --> 00:20:18.730
of one of these banging hotels, and gets to party

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with the porn stars. And Mr. Andy Green, who

00:20:22.589 --> 00:20:25.809
did a horrible job on that Rolling Stone article,

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by the way, very one -sided, didn't get the full

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story and just ran with it. He was given the

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full story, but he didn't. use it ah but still

00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:40.619
he spoke to you for maybe five minutes he's gone

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no i spoke to him for about an hour a little

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over an hour but he used like five percent of

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my you know what i talked about oh okay yes i

00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:51.940
had that part a little confused and he said he

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was looking for the truth well he didn't write

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the truth what a day yeah he wrote the more salacious

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story it seems but uh he in that story decides

00:21:03.589 --> 00:21:08.029
to talk about a rock star being an asshole or

00:21:08.029 --> 00:21:10.910
whatever his words were for going to the porn

00:21:10.910 --> 00:21:14.230
awards and hanging out with porn stars now even

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if you're just a normal guy or a normal person

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attracted to you know birth women i can't believe

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i have to speak like that um birth people jesus

00:21:25.069 --> 00:21:30.170
christ uh no we're not doing that we're not doing

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that we're not doing that we're not doing that

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here you're gonna come and you're gonna go and

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you're gonna have a good time and you're gonna

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have a blast and you're going to come home and

00:21:40.250 --> 00:21:42.009
tell your boys about it because it's a fucking

00:21:42.009 --> 00:21:44.950
you know once in a lifetime experience if you're

00:21:44.950 --> 00:21:47.890
a normie not if you're a chad gracie you know

00:21:47.890 --> 00:21:50.730
that shit kind of happens but how can you write

00:21:50.730 --> 00:21:54.309
that in an article dude like oh like rolling

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stone It wasn't people or fucking time or something.

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But what was his words? I forget exactly. I didn't

00:22:04.210 --> 00:22:05.910
even read most of the damn article because I

00:22:05.910 --> 00:22:07.750
started reading and I was like, okay, here's...

00:22:07.750 --> 00:22:10.950
I got the angle already from this guy. Yeah.

00:22:12.309 --> 00:22:16.349
But it was to the point of trying to put him

00:22:16.349 --> 00:22:19.849
down for going to this awesome place. And it

00:22:19.849 --> 00:22:22.869
was just so laughable, dude. Sorry he's not a

00:22:22.869 --> 00:22:28.420
geek like you, Andy. you know sorry i i don't

00:22:28.420 --> 00:22:31.240
know what is he in love with his partner you

00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:33.740
know i'm saying so much that he can't bear to

00:22:33.740 --> 00:22:37.200
see a nude person it might fucking like fucking

00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:40.400
get over yourself dude anyway uh chris i'm gonna

00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:44.299
try and call you uh because i was trying to talk

00:22:44.299 --> 00:22:46.680
to you through this and then see if you heard

00:22:46.680 --> 00:22:48.599
me and then you could be still able to get on

00:22:49.540 --> 00:22:52.279
I don't know. He just said he was having issues

00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:55.539
and to call him. So I'm just going to call. Yeah,

00:22:56.240 --> 00:22:58.640
because we have a standby if Chris can't get

00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:03.819
on. Bill's chomping at the bit. Actually, Bill

00:23:03.819 --> 00:23:05.119
wants to jump on for five minutes. I'm going

00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:07.279
to send him a link real quick. All right, Chris,

00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:12.839
hang on. Hang the hell on, bubs. We got you.

00:23:15.660 --> 00:23:20.940
Sorry, Bill. I didn't see that one. Nine. All

00:23:20.940 --> 00:23:26.640
righty. But anywho. Bill, let's talk about Rolling

00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:29.859
Stone because he's the star of that article.

00:23:30.339 --> 00:23:36.119
I love that we could do this, by the way. Where'd

00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:41.180
Bobby go? I don't know. Oh, he's there. See Bobby's

00:23:41.180 --> 00:23:44.759
lovely face. Bobby fell over. All right. Ladies

00:23:44.759 --> 00:23:49.029
and gentlemen. We do have a next guest coming

00:23:49.029 --> 00:23:53.529
up, jumping in, taking over for Chris for a minute.

00:23:53.589 --> 00:23:55.549
Chris, we will get to you, buddy. I promise.

00:23:56.529 --> 00:24:01.630
You might know him as Bill Hines, the most hated

00:24:01.630 --> 00:24:04.849
man in the world. Bad Bill. That's right. Bad

00:24:04.849 --> 00:24:08.950
Bill. Bill Bad. So if anyone wants an autographed

00:24:08.950 --> 00:24:14.509
copy, I have them. So when I first met the guys

00:24:14.509 --> 00:24:17.740
in the band, Chad Taylor would carry Rolling

00:24:17.740 --> 00:24:21.680
Stone magazines in his wheeled briefcase. If

00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:23.700
we were in a meeting with a banker or anything

00:24:23.700 --> 00:24:27.759
else, he would toss the fucking... Yeah, he'd

00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:29.319
throw them at the people. He'd throw them at

00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:31.799
people like a douche. So me, I'll just hand them

00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:36.720
out. Is that you on the cover? Yeah, that's my

00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:41.319
friend. Who's these other... There's Z -Man.

00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:44.400
What's up, buddy? He dropped into the middle

00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:47.480
of this. Who's Robert Hayes? What's up, Zach?

00:24:47.660 --> 00:24:49.559
What's up, Chris? He's our producer. What's up,

00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:53.220
Chad? How are you? I'm good. I'm really good.

00:24:53.220 --> 00:24:56.380
What's up, Z -Man? I'm going to bounce. Hi, John.

00:24:57.059 --> 00:24:59.599
John, what happened to you? You look different.

00:24:59.859 --> 00:25:03.380
They put me on temporarily until you could get

00:25:03.380 --> 00:25:06.680
your technical difficulties done. A lot of technical

00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:16.579
difficulties when you're my age. There was this

00:25:16.579 --> 00:25:21.059
band that was playing – I don't even call it

00:25:21.059 --> 00:25:24.079
a band – in Lancaster, and I was remarking to

00:25:24.079 --> 00:25:25.960
Chad Gracie. I'm like, why wouldn't they just

00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:28.720
call Chris Alenka? He could totally sing better

00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:32.660
than whoever was attempting to try to be the

00:25:32.660 --> 00:25:36.319
lead singer in that debacle. You guys blow each

00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:39.960
other on a different show. Chris, Bill's going

00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:43.480
to talk to – Listen, I've been to Chris's pad.

00:25:44.349 --> 00:25:48.569
where he played he's excellent and his band i

00:25:48.569 --> 00:25:52.589
got like a full -on concert um him and his boys

00:25:52.589 --> 00:25:54.569
are pretty good and then i'm fucking leaving

00:25:54.569 --> 00:25:59.390
the one night and there's a fucking bear remember

00:25:59.390 --> 00:26:03.910
that chris i'm like yeah they're still out there

00:26:03.910 --> 00:26:06.349
he does live among the wild like he has a deer

00:26:06.349 --> 00:26:10.190
friend out there yeah he's always feeding Anyway,

00:26:10.269 --> 00:26:12.430
no, there was a fucking bear. I'm like, Chris,

00:26:12.509 --> 00:26:13.630
how do you live in there? He's like, yeah, they

00:26:13.630 --> 00:26:14.910
don't bother you. I'm like, I keep switching

00:26:14.910 --> 00:26:16.750
hats, Bill. What the hell are you doing? Hat

00:26:16.750 --> 00:26:19.890
dance. What hat do you want, Bill? Who are you

00:26:19.890 --> 00:26:21.809
repping right there with that hat? It's Colorado.

00:26:21.930 --> 00:26:26.690
I like Deion Sanders. I really do. They need

00:26:26.690 --> 00:26:29.309
some bigger boys on that game. What happened?

00:26:29.789 --> 00:26:32.329
They need some bigger boys on that game. Oh,

00:26:32.329 --> 00:26:35.829
my God, yeah. His son's going to die just from

00:26:35.829 --> 00:26:39.420
getting crushed. They got fast guys, but they

00:26:39.420 --> 00:26:42.839
need a bigger offensive line. Hey, someone wants

00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:47.880
to say hello. Who? Come here. Who's there? Let

00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:53.299
me guess. Kinfolk of Chad Gracie. Oh. Hi. Hi,

00:26:53.579 --> 00:26:56.819
Chris. Hi, Lana. How are you? Hi, Chad. Hello,

00:26:56.980 --> 00:26:59.000
Mom. She was talking about going to a casino,

00:26:59.059 --> 00:27:01.319
and I said, I know a guy. Well, that's where

00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:05.119
Chris was from. Yeah. Mount Airy. Right, Chris?

00:27:05.339 --> 00:27:07.799
There you go. Well, fortunately, I'm retired

00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:12.099
from there. I know. That's where I, you know,

00:27:12.140 --> 00:27:16.160
ended it. Hey, Mama Gracie, real quick. Was Chad

00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:18.319
a pain in the butt growing up or was he a good

00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:21.839
kid? He was a good kid. Are you saying that because

00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:25.599
you're his mom or? No, no. He was a good kid.

00:27:25.740 --> 00:27:27.720
Ask him about Scott. She'll tell you he was bad.

00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:30.279
No, Scott wasn't bad. Scott chased people with

00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:33.359
knives. The worst thing I did was try to sneak

00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:35.700
out and go have sex with twins, but she spoiled

00:27:35.700 --> 00:27:38.660
that. I found out. I listened to the conversation

00:27:38.660 --> 00:27:40.220
on the phone. That's right. She got on the phone.

00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:43.240
And you didn't let him go? Come on, Mom. I was

00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:45.920
going to sneak out at night. She caught you.

00:27:45.980 --> 00:27:48.660
Well, they were his cousins, so that's why she

00:27:48.660 --> 00:27:51.980
stopped them. Ew. Yum, yum. If you can't keep

00:27:51.980 --> 00:27:54.380
it in the pants, keep it in the family. Chad,

00:27:54.440 --> 00:27:57.559
was this the lady who made us the fried with

00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:00.880
the powdered sugar? Funnel cake? Yeah, absolutely.

00:28:01.420 --> 00:28:03.759
Oh, my God. Is this the way he does his mop?

00:28:04.579 --> 00:28:07.539
Well, come on, dude. I'm such a bad guy. His

00:28:07.539 --> 00:28:10.380
mom hates me. She's had to poison me five times.

00:28:10.539 --> 00:28:13.220
She makes the best cupcakes. See, you got to

00:28:13.220 --> 00:28:15.980
visit. You got to visit and have Lana's cupcakes.

00:28:16.900 --> 00:28:19.220
Totally. I have to hear about that funnel cake.

00:28:19.579 --> 00:28:21.880
There's a studio upstairs. You know, your band

00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:24.940
can come anytime. Yeah. I was just going to say

00:28:24.940 --> 00:28:27.880
that. I can make a call. I know the owners. Okay.

00:28:29.699 --> 00:28:33.480
If her other stuff is half as good as the funnel

00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:35.099
cake, man, you are in for a treat because Mama

00:28:35.099 --> 00:28:40.099
Gracie, they were delish. She won't cook with

00:28:40.099 --> 00:28:45.440
edible stuff in it. Oh, come on. She won't do

00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:49.519
that. And also, as a father of three girls, I

00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:55.069
do not condone your... titty Tuesday thing. Oh,

00:28:55.150 --> 00:28:59.730
okay. Well, you're not rating dick pics, are

00:28:59.730 --> 00:29:02.750
you? Yeah. Equal opportunity. Testicle Tuesday,

00:29:02.930 --> 00:29:08.450
dude. That's testicles. I'm going to go. We're

00:29:08.450 --> 00:29:10.250
going to talk to Chris. You're going to talk

00:29:10.250 --> 00:29:15.109
to Chris. I did my job. I muted him. No, I'm

00:29:15.109 --> 00:29:18.730
just kidding. Go ahead. You got to unmute. You

00:29:18.730 --> 00:29:23.700
got to unmute. I did my job. I was the fluffer

00:29:23.700 --> 00:29:27.039
until Chris Zelenka arrived. Chris, nice to see

00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:29.819
you. You got me hard as a rock, Bill. Thank you.

00:29:30.019 --> 00:29:34.359
Hey, take care. And hey, if you want autograph

00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:37.400
copies of Rolling Stone, me and Chad Gracie can

00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.539
autograph them. We're in here. How much to get

00:29:41.539 --> 00:29:44.880
that autograph? Oh, free. I got a whole bunch

00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.940
of copies. Oh, I want one. I definitely want

00:29:47.940 --> 00:29:52.099
one. Yeah. Michael B. Jordan might be a lot more.

00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:57.779
Anyway. All right. So that was Bill Hines, ladies

00:29:57.779 --> 00:30:01.339
and gentlemen. There he is. Now we got the real

00:30:01.339 --> 00:30:05.019
guest of honor. Yeah, dude. Chris, what's up,

00:30:05.059 --> 00:30:08.720
buddy? Can you guys hear me okay? Absolutely.

00:30:09.460 --> 00:30:12.019
Perfect. So how's retirement, dude? How's it

00:30:12.019 --> 00:30:15.019
treating you? Retirement's good. You know, it's...

00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:17.940
It's fun, man. I've just been busy, busy riding

00:30:17.940 --> 00:30:20.779
my bike and trying to spend as much time with

00:30:20.779 --> 00:30:23.980
my wife and playing a lot of music. But it's

00:30:23.980 --> 00:30:26.279
fun. It's fun not working. It really is. And

00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:28.740
congratulations on the marriage. And she's a

00:30:28.740 --> 00:30:30.880
beautiful girl, man. You're a lucky man. Yeah,

00:30:31.339 --> 00:30:33.160
she is. She's the best thing that happened to

00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:35.180
me. That's for sure. How long have you been married?

00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:39.359
About two years and three months, four months,

00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:41.960
something like that. We're going on. First marriage?

00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:47.599
Yeah, at 64 years old. Wow, dude. The thing you

00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:50.660
forget about Z -Man is that he's older than you

00:30:50.660 --> 00:30:54.779
think he is. Yeah. You look great for 64. Exactly.

00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:57.980
What the hell made you take this plunge at 64?

00:30:59.299 --> 00:31:02.119
You know, I quit drinking six and a half years

00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:06.579
ago. Right. And that changed, you know, everything

00:31:06.579 --> 00:31:08.599
for me in my life. And I got my crap together

00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:12.220
and then found this beautiful woman. You know,

00:31:12.220 --> 00:31:13.880
she probably would have definitely not wanted

00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:17.279
anything with the old Z -Man, but we got a great

00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:20.880
thing. Well, that's good. I was going to tell

00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:23.559
you not to do it, but I'm not going to even mess

00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:25.299
with it. It sounds like you've found a real love,

00:31:25.339 --> 00:31:27.859
and you guys are good. Don't mind me. I'm looking

00:31:27.859 --> 00:31:30.539
for something, so don't get distracted. Did you

00:31:30.539 --> 00:31:33.680
drop your edibles or what? I dropped my vape,

00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:37.569
dude. He dropped your vape. Uh -huh. So don't

00:31:37.569 --> 00:31:40.250
mind me. No, that's okay. I'd be looking all

00:31:40.250 --> 00:31:44.009
over the floor too. Right, right, right. Great.

00:31:44.650 --> 00:31:46.650
Z -Man, I like that we're calling you Z -Man,

00:31:46.710 --> 00:31:50.309
dude. What's your, you have three bands you play

00:31:50.309 --> 00:31:52.829
with or more? I have one. If you're still here,

00:31:52.950 --> 00:31:55.849
hit the like button, subscribe. Bobby, lower

00:31:55.849 --> 00:31:57.869
yourself. Mute it, dude. Come on, bro. You got

00:31:57.869 --> 00:31:59.970
to be on top of this as our producer. You cannot

00:31:59.970 --> 00:32:02.589
be doing that. I apologize, audience. We're a

00:32:02.589 --> 00:32:07.880
pro outfit here. Come on, man. All right. I mean,

00:32:07.940 --> 00:32:11.220
I have a 90s alternative rock band called Lakini's

00:32:11.220 --> 00:32:15.339
Rooster. We've been together since 2016. The

00:32:15.339 --> 00:32:20.099
band fell apart in this year. Well, no stories

00:32:20.099 --> 00:32:22.019
like live, but I'm the only one left in the band.

00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:24.980
So I hired all new members in the band and we're

00:32:24.980 --> 00:32:27.079
coming back out. But, you know, we've opened

00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.539
for Buck, Cherry, Candlebox, Hinder, Deshwana,

00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:36.339
Sable, Tantric. Can you get live to do that as

00:32:36.339 --> 00:32:39.279
well, man? Those are some fucking... I had another

00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:45.339
band in 2015 called Zed DeLance, which Chad Gracie

00:32:45.339 --> 00:32:47.920
came up with the name for the band Zed DeLance.

00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:52.519
And that band in 2015 opened for live at the

00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:55.799
Mahegan Sun with Christian singing. Thanks, Drew.

00:32:56.359 --> 00:32:59.119
That is cool as hell, man. That's cool of you

00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:01.079
to do too, Chad. That's really rock and roll.

00:33:01.630 --> 00:33:05.930
Yeah, that was a good time. And then I have a

00:33:05.930 --> 00:33:08.410
live tribute band called The Evil. That's right.

00:33:08.869 --> 00:33:12.009
You have the t -shirt on, right? Yes, sir. If

00:33:12.009 --> 00:33:13.910
you don't mind me to cut back to that, what was

00:33:13.910 --> 00:33:20.309
that like opening for live? The thing of it was,

00:33:20.390 --> 00:33:23.829
when I was really young, I was really into music,

00:33:23.950 --> 00:33:27.009
but I was never talented enough. I played trumpet

00:33:27.009 --> 00:33:30.140
in the band for a year, but I wasn't... A hippie,

00:33:30.140 --> 00:33:32.480
you know, most of the time until I became a golf

00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:35.119
pro. And not that that changed anything, excuse

00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:38.319
me. But long story short, I didn't really have

00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:40.640
any musical skill. But then later in life, I

00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:42.819
think like in 1998, I used to play in a garage

00:33:42.819 --> 00:33:46.200
band with my best friend, Rick Van Wye, and hanging

00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:48.859
out. And, you know, I couldn't even really sing

00:33:48.859 --> 00:33:51.319
in front of people looking at him. I had to turn

00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:54.920
away. But as things progressed and I picked up

00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:57.759
guitar, I'm self -taught on guitar by ear only.

00:33:58.569 --> 00:34:03.329
and uh by 2002 i think it was we were jamming

00:34:03.329 --> 00:34:05.549
it and i said you know guys one day i love that

00:34:05.549 --> 00:34:10.650
one day i'm gonna open for live and nice 2015

00:34:10.650 --> 00:34:13.710
like 13 years later it happened there you go

00:34:13.710 --> 00:34:18.389
yeah cool i mean you know you gotta just you

00:34:18.389 --> 00:34:23.250
guys did you play live songs no my that being

00:34:23.250 --> 00:34:25.869
at the time zed de lance we uh was an original

00:34:25.869 --> 00:34:28.920
band that we wrote You know, some tunes. So we

00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:31.460
played probably four originals and maybe three

00:34:31.460 --> 00:34:35.300
covers. We played Mad Seasons. I don't know what

00:34:35.300 --> 00:34:38.119
else we played. I can't remember. Dude, that

00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:42.659
is a badass. Are those CDs behind you? Yeah,

00:34:42.699 --> 00:34:45.219
those are all live CDs. Yeah, man. Oh, I could

00:34:45.219 --> 00:34:47.199
tell. I didn't know if it was maybe artwork or

00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:51.760
like. What bootlegs and all kinds of stuff, right?

00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:54.000
Rarities. Yeah, I got it. I got it. I think there's

00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:56.079
like 50 some up there. I'm trying to get more.

00:34:56.690 --> 00:34:58.969
Wait a second, bootlegs that Chad didn't get

00:34:58.969 --> 00:35:03.909
paid on? Got it. This is the best thing. Look

00:35:03.909 --> 00:35:09.929
at this thing. That's my coffee table. Hold on,

00:35:09.949 --> 00:35:12.070
let me see. How do I get it so we can just see

00:35:12.070 --> 00:35:17.090
him? Can you see my coffee table? Yeah, looks

00:35:17.090 --> 00:35:19.349
great. I'm trying to get it to where I can just

00:35:19.349 --> 00:35:21.650
pick you to keep the camera on. Anybody know

00:35:21.650 --> 00:35:23.809
how to do that? Yeah, I'm just moving it around

00:35:23.809 --> 00:35:27.829
and then here's something. Sign guitar, nice.

00:35:30.210 --> 00:35:36.889
Yeah. And then I got another one over here. That's

00:35:36.889 --> 00:35:38.989
with Christian at the helm. That's right, there

00:35:38.989 --> 00:35:45.510
you go. Those rare days. Yeah. It would have

00:35:45.510 --> 00:35:48.530
fit in good with these days, those days, because

00:35:48.530 --> 00:35:50.250
we're in the upside -down world now. That was

00:35:50.250 --> 00:35:52.409
a little bit before the upside -down world to

00:35:52.409 --> 00:35:56.260
have, you know. That's a different singer, yeah.

00:35:56.860 --> 00:35:59.039
I mean, in the background, it's been a crazy

00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:01.400
ride watching all this stuff. It really has.

00:36:03.460 --> 00:36:07.320
It's wild being in it. I remember the last show

00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:15.320
in Westbury, man, in 2010. Yeah. I'm sorry, Z

00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:17.480
-Man. Can you show that stuff again? I have you

00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:21.139
pinned now. I figured it out. I'm so sorry. My

00:36:21.139 --> 00:36:24.309
coffee. Let me just do this real quick. So for

00:36:24.309 --> 00:36:26.210
the listening audience, because eventually it'll

00:36:26.210 --> 00:36:28.449
just be where it won't just be, but it'll be

00:36:28.449 --> 00:36:30.849
where people could also listen with just audio.

00:36:31.389 --> 00:36:34.969
Z -Man is showing a badass coffee table that

00:36:34.969 --> 00:36:40.909
he made custom, which is made out of wood and

00:36:40.909 --> 00:36:42.570
then clear glass. Can you go back to that, Z

00:36:42.570 --> 00:36:44.670
-Man? I just want to go back to coffee table.

00:36:44.670 --> 00:36:46.949
It wasn't made by me. It was made by my best

00:36:46.949 --> 00:36:49.969
friend, Rick Van Wye, who's a master woodcraftman.

00:36:49.989 --> 00:36:52.670
The guy's amazing. His kids work for Martin Guitar.

00:36:53.150 --> 00:36:56.090
His son played lead guitar in Lachini's Rooster

00:36:56.090 --> 00:37:00.090
for me for about five years. And then he just

00:37:00.090 --> 00:37:03.010
started another project. But that's my coffee

00:37:03.010 --> 00:37:05.210
table. And tell them what's in it, Z -Man, because

00:37:05.210 --> 00:37:08.070
that's beautiful. What's that? Tell them what's

00:37:08.070 --> 00:37:10.389
in it because it's beautiful. Oh, my God. I mean,

00:37:10.429 --> 00:37:13.429
I got tickets in there. I got some CDs in there.

00:37:13.590 --> 00:37:17.409
I, you know, I have working pass. I went on in

00:37:17.409 --> 00:37:22.090
Allentown and my Matt Gracie. I love Matt. You

00:37:22.090 --> 00:37:26.710
know, he got me a roadie gig with Bush and what

00:37:26.710 --> 00:37:30.449
the hell was that? Our Lady Peace and you guys.

00:37:31.590 --> 00:37:34.690
And I was roadie for the day. And then there's

00:37:34.690 --> 00:37:37.840
the guitar again, you know. oh shit so this is

00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:41.659
a signed guitar by live yeah that's a signed

00:37:41.659 --> 00:37:45.340
electric by the four and then i have a uh that's

00:37:45.340 --> 00:37:47.480
a gracious few right there believe it or not

00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:51.380
i assume i'm jelly to the now you need a great

00:37:51.380 --> 00:37:54.980
two signed microphone that's a great that's a

00:37:54.980 --> 00:37:58.480
great and then there's the one with shin dope

00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:04.320
but dude how did you end up acquiring those guitars

00:38:05.389 --> 00:38:09.130
I have a lot of memorabilia, actually. The electric,

00:38:09.309 --> 00:38:13.150
original electric one I bought with an authenticity

00:38:13.150 --> 00:38:16.869
from someone. And then the other gracious few

00:38:16.869 --> 00:38:23.530
I was on stage with in 20, God, what year was

00:38:23.530 --> 00:38:27.409
it? That was probably 2010 or 2011, I think we

00:38:27.409 --> 00:38:32.949
were out. Maybe 2011, the fraud of PA. You guys

00:38:32.949 --> 00:38:36.519
did that acoustic. you brought me on stage for

00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:38.440
that song and played it with you guys. It was

00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:40.440
amazing, man. Yeah. We would do a little acoustic

00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:44.000
breakdown section in that, on that tour. I miss

00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:46.980
the gracious food, but everybody does. Wow. It

00:38:46.980 --> 00:38:49.599
was, it was fun, but it was hard. It's hard as

00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:52.360
fucking hell to do, but it was fun. I'm very,

00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:54.800
very proud of the music and the record for sure.

00:38:55.739 --> 00:38:58.500
As you should be dude. Like a Z man said, man,

00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:00.659
totally missed that band. That fucking start

00:39:00.659 --> 00:39:04.119
to finish album kills people out there. It's

00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:05.539
still able to be gotten, right? Because I know

00:39:05.539 --> 00:39:08.800
I just have it in my library. I guess. I don't

00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:12.980
know. Do yourselves a favor and go get The Gracious

00:39:12.980 --> 00:39:16.519
Few. I think it was self -titled, right? Yes.

00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:20.860
Yeah. The Gracious Few album. And I promise you,

00:39:20.900 --> 00:39:24.739
start to finish. It rocks. It rolls. And it's

00:39:24.739 --> 00:39:28.900
fucking awesome, man. I got a great hoodie in

00:39:28.900 --> 00:39:31.360
my closet somewhere, but I know it's a size too

00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:33.539
big for me. I could probably get probably 500

00:39:33.539 --> 00:39:35.880
bucks for it. You're a little thinner now when

00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:39.980
you both. Yeah. What happened? How'd you lose

00:39:39.980 --> 00:39:42.579
the weight? Six and a half years not drinking

00:39:42.579 --> 00:39:46.260
changed my diet, changed my lifestyle. Wow, man.

00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:48.340
You went off sugar and carbs and everything,

00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:51.800
right? You know, right now I'm on this anti -sugar

00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:54.239
thing really huge because going into Thanksgiving

00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:56.059
and Christmas, I know it's just going to get

00:39:56.059 --> 00:39:59.940
worse. So, like, when I really want to put my

00:39:59.940 --> 00:40:03.380
foot down on, I put my foot down. There's one

00:40:03.380 --> 00:40:06.199
thing I can't put my foot down on, though, but,

00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:09.659
you know. Dude, there's so much good stuff now.

00:40:09.739 --> 00:40:12.260
Like, Stevia is really good as a sugar substitute.

00:40:14.340 --> 00:40:18.860
Yeah, I mean, you know, like, I just, I'll get

00:40:18.860 --> 00:40:20.880
some dark chocolate, and if I really need anything,

00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:22.840
I might have, like, one bite of that now in the

00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.039
night or something. But my wife just made a bunch

00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:28.630
of cookies. And I like my cookies burnt, so she

00:40:28.630 --> 00:40:30.510
burnt some of them for me, and I even refused

00:40:30.510 --> 00:40:34.590
to take them from her. Oh, look at you. I grow

00:40:34.590 --> 00:40:36.650
up with my mom making bacon all the time. I'm

00:40:36.650 --> 00:40:40.090
a sugar addict. No, I hear you, man. I try to

00:40:40.090 --> 00:40:42.130
go off of it here and there, too. It's just so

00:40:42.130 --> 00:40:45.150
hard. I love it. Yeah, I know, but it's just

00:40:45.150 --> 00:40:48.250
the holidays coming on. You know, I'm only 155

00:40:48.250 --> 00:40:50.110
pounds, but if I get this little pooch belly,

00:40:50.230 --> 00:40:52.010
I get all freaked out. I got a bunch of shows

00:40:52.010 --> 00:40:54.769
coming up I want to be ready for, ready to rock,

00:40:54.849 --> 00:40:59.159
you know? well yeah fighting weight yeah right

00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:02.960
isn't it amazing though like i mean nobody starts

00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:06.199
off fat like you eat yourself to that you know

00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:10.380
point like you are what you eat right that's

00:41:10.380 --> 00:41:16.360
why i'm a huge pussy um the um sorry um but you

00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:18.760
know what i'm saying like that that's why it's

00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:23.090
like I could never get to, I gained like 10 pounds.

00:41:23.150 --> 00:41:25.610
I'm like, dude, you look horrible. Like I hate

00:41:25.610 --> 00:41:28.630
myself. I couldn't imagine if I was like 250

00:41:28.630 --> 00:41:32.150
pounds, like I would literally hate myself. Like

00:41:32.150 --> 00:41:34.030
I would not want to leave the house. I don't

00:41:34.030 --> 00:41:37.389
know. I mean, that's vain, but I just don't know

00:41:37.389 --> 00:41:41.349
how people do that. Well, I mean, you know, a

00:41:41.349 --> 00:41:43.570
lot of people have just controlling what they're

00:41:43.570 --> 00:41:47.820
eating for sure. It's an addiction. Yeah. It's

00:41:47.820 --> 00:41:51.260
hard to control everything in life because it's

00:41:51.260 --> 00:41:55.880
crazy as life is. Chad doesn't smoke. You do,

00:41:56.079 --> 00:42:00.099
John. I do. I need that to calm my ass down or

00:42:00.099 --> 00:42:03.820
I'd be a freaking lunatic. You smoke cigarettes?

00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:08.940
No, I quit those in 1996. Nice, man. Watching

00:42:08.940 --> 00:42:11.679
CBS. You know how that too was really easy. I

00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:15.659
was watching CBS Evening News. Yeah, 20 leading

00:42:15.659 --> 00:42:17.860
ingredients. And I remember it like it was yesterday

00:42:17.860 --> 00:42:21.159
when I heard arsenic, plutonium and ammonia.

00:42:22.780 --> 00:42:26.440
OK, right. But, you know, now hearing Chad say

00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:28.719
that he thinks how crazy it is putting something

00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:31.940
that, you know, smoke into your lungs. And I

00:42:31.940 --> 00:42:33.980
was having breakfast with my best friend yesterday

00:42:33.980 --> 00:42:35.559
at this restaurant. We're just over here, this

00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:38.780
conversation. You know, the one dude goes, and

00:42:38.780 --> 00:42:40.260
he was older than me, he goes, yeah, I could

00:42:40.260 --> 00:42:43.860
never put any smoke in my lungs. You know, it

00:42:43.860 --> 00:42:47.139
kind of hits, but it's just hard to, you know.

00:42:48.179 --> 00:42:51.000
Yeah, my father was a smoker, and, you know,

00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:53.260
I used to have him deal with it. He'd smoke in

00:42:53.260 --> 00:42:57.579
the house. Yeah, I remember riding in my dad's

00:42:57.579 --> 00:42:59.579
Lincoln Continental, going to New York City and

00:42:59.579 --> 00:43:02.280
Philly, hustling clothes when I was 13, 14 years

00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:05.539
old. He'd be huffing on his. Newports or whatever

00:43:05.539 --> 00:43:08.079
the hell, or Palm Island, I remember. Yeah, he'd

00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:10.619
smoke in his car, smoke in the house, and at

00:43:10.619 --> 00:43:13.000
one point, I just was like, I'm never fucking

00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:17.599
doing this. I can't stand it. Yeah, it's so gross

00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:22.260
when you're not doing it, or you know, and it's

00:43:22.260 --> 00:43:25.659
just there. It's like the worst. Playing in a

00:43:25.659 --> 00:43:28.489
bar. When you go out and you're playing in a

00:43:28.489 --> 00:43:31.010
bar that, like, I refuse, I will not play solo

00:43:31.010 --> 00:43:33.690
in any kind of bar with cigarettes smoking. Yeah,

00:43:33.690 --> 00:43:37.050
we did that, you know, small place early on,

00:43:37.230 --> 00:43:40.750
man. I bet. Jesus Christ. And then once we got

00:43:40.750 --> 00:43:43.269
a little bigger, I made a strict no smoking policy

00:43:43.269 --> 00:43:44.710
on stage. I'm like, I don't want them fucking

00:43:44.710 --> 00:43:47.389
around me. Hell yeah. Like, especially when I

00:43:47.389 --> 00:43:49.570
was playing and, you know, huffing for air, fucking.

00:43:50.230 --> 00:43:52.909
Yeah, right. Getting my cardio in. I was like.

00:43:53.420 --> 00:43:56.260
No cigarettes. You know, Gracie, I got some great

00:43:56.260 --> 00:43:59.159
videos of you still on my phone of, uh, you know,

00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:01.500
over the last few years, uh, being right there

00:44:01.500 --> 00:44:05.139
behind you or on side stage, like literal 30

00:44:05.139 --> 00:44:08.659
feet or 20 feet away from you recording. And

00:44:08.659 --> 00:44:11.320
just you're, you're, you're a great, great drummer

00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:13.639
and a great dude. You really are. I appreciate

00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:15.679
that. Thank you. I appreciate everything you've

00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:18.219
done over the years for me, you know, all you

00:44:18.219 --> 00:44:20.860
guys. Well, you're very welcome, man. Thank you

00:44:20.860 --> 00:44:25.000
for being such a. you know great fate fan will

00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:27.139
just be in there for us for so many years freaking

00:44:27.139 --> 00:44:29.519
awesome he's been he's been around for so many

00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:32.059
years you know it's crazy because i own this

00:44:32.059 --> 00:44:36.539
i was i own my own golf course in 1990 1990 through

00:44:36.539 --> 00:44:40.059
93 and you know it was probably 93 or 92 whatever

00:44:40.059 --> 00:44:41.860
i don't even remember what year it was when this

00:44:41.860 --> 00:44:43.820
dude showed up it was a golf pro friend of mine

00:44:43.820 --> 00:44:46.280
and he had this cassette and it was throwing

00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:49.199
copper and listening like lightning crashes and

00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:53.719
that was with I was going to ask how you got

00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:57.079
introduced, how you got into us. Jeff Peacher

00:44:57.079 --> 00:44:58.739
Cattell and my buddy Peach. You know, you'll

00:44:58.739 --> 00:45:01.119
never forget the people that introduced you to

00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:06.380
good music. Jeremy Bryant, a huge live fan, turned

00:45:06.380 --> 00:45:12.039
me on to Blue October in 2005. You know, Jeremy,

00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:14.219
man, he's an awesome dude. I met some really

00:45:14.219 --> 00:45:19.440
great guys. Bob Zazair, Rich Maxwell. And Jeremy

00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:22.159
and we hung around for a bunch of years going

00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:24.480
to shows, man. We've come to my house. We've

00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:27.480
done shows in my house. We had a good run. We

00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:29.940
had a good time, man. I miss all those people.

00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:32.679
Yeah. We're going to have Bob on. We had Rich

00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:34.079
on a couple of weeks ago. We're going to have

00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:38.500
Bob on soon. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. I saw that. Yeah.

00:45:38.539 --> 00:45:40.599
It's exciting to hear all these stories about

00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:43.980
fans and how they met, you know, interactions

00:45:43.980 --> 00:45:47.849
with the band and stuff like that. good crazy

00:45:47.849 --> 00:45:51.710
stuff i mean even with uh in the shin air with

00:45:51.710 --> 00:45:55.670
the powder you know with the in going to atlantic

00:45:55.670 --> 00:45:59.949
city and we're even at tense peak and finds plastering

00:45:59.949 --> 00:46:04.369
my face with whatever that shit was but we all

00:46:04.369 --> 00:46:08.090
did it man you know yeah we sure did yeah i think

00:46:08.090 --> 00:46:12.070
yeah we would that was a hard for me to i would

00:46:12.070 --> 00:46:13.769
like don't put it on my face because i don't

00:46:13.769 --> 00:46:15.590
want to breathe in fucking powder yeah right

00:46:15.590 --> 00:46:19.150
dude it's great hearing all the diva stories

00:46:19.150 --> 00:46:22.710
about chat he can't have smoking near and have

00:46:22.710 --> 00:46:25.449
powder near don't put it in my face or my hands

00:46:25.449 --> 00:46:29.269
jesus dude well you know what he's probably the

00:46:29.269 --> 00:46:35.170
most normal one of you know together of you know

00:46:35.170 --> 00:46:39.329
chad what try what tampons did you request for

00:46:41.460 --> 00:46:46.039
I did maxi pads, man. I didn't cut my balls with

00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:48.519
them. See what a dude he is, dude? He doesn't

00:46:48.519 --> 00:46:52.599
even know that a maxi pad is a pad, not a tampon.

00:46:52.619 --> 00:46:55.420
That's how manly he is, dude. He doesn't even

00:46:55.420 --> 00:46:58.900
know. Made a little cradle for my nuts. Come

00:46:58.900 --> 00:47:02.760
on now. Yeah, come on now. So, Z -Man, when you

00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:05.639
do Evil, right, and that's the live tribute band,

00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:08.940
so that's 100 % live music sets? There's nothing

00:47:08.940 --> 00:47:11.599
else? Yeah, we have our, again, you know, the

00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:13.760
band was, Lachini's Rooster and Evil were all

00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:16.179
the same bandmates for five years, and then we

00:47:16.179 --> 00:47:17.760
broke up, and now I have new bandmates. Our first

00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:21.239
show with Evil, with my new band, is on December

00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:25.780
15th at Artie's in Frenchtown, New Jersey. You

00:47:25.780 --> 00:47:27.440
heard it, folks. Get your ticket. They were a

00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:30.420
ticket for sale. How did they go? I got some,

00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:33.619
you know, there's a ticket link somewhere on

00:47:33.619 --> 00:47:37.280
either Latini's Rooster or on Evil. If you search

00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:40.260
it up, probably on Evil, there's a link to that

00:47:40.260 --> 00:47:43.559
show. But I mean, I've got a great band together,

00:47:43.579 --> 00:47:46.159
some really talented new dudes that we're going

00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:48.760
to kill it. We've got some shows booked for next

00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:54.369
year that I really, there's one in July. That

00:47:54.369 --> 00:47:56.829
in the Poconos is going to be the biggest event

00:47:56.829 --> 00:47:59.630
going on, and we're going to be on stage for

00:47:59.630 --> 00:48:01.230
that show. And I'm not even allowed to announce

00:48:01.230 --> 00:48:02.769
it until May, so I'm going to keep my mouth shut.

00:48:03.210 --> 00:48:05.750
Secret. That's cool, man. Awesome. We've got

00:48:05.750 --> 00:48:09.869
some killer shows booked for 2016. Do you have

00:48:09.869 --> 00:48:12.309
an agent, or how are you getting gigs? 2024.

00:48:12.809 --> 00:48:16.829
Yeah, 2024. So you have an agent or you just

00:48:16.829 --> 00:48:19.050
work it yourself? No, man, I do it all myself.

00:48:19.309 --> 00:48:21.690
You know, what happened was, long story short,

00:48:21.909 --> 00:48:24.269
Lakini's Rooster went on a little bit of a hiatus

00:48:24.269 --> 00:48:27.070
and then we kind of got back together. And I

00:48:27.070 --> 00:48:29.989
can't even get into the story of what happened

00:48:29.989 --> 00:48:32.809
to in the last six months. I don't even really

00:48:32.809 --> 00:48:38.170
want to. I found new bandmates and we turned

00:48:38.170 --> 00:48:40.250
Lakini's Rooster into an Alice in Chains project.

00:48:40.469 --> 00:48:43.130
Long story short. And we were killing it. We

00:48:43.130 --> 00:48:47.650
were. Our practice sessions were amazing. We

00:48:47.650 --> 00:48:49.769
really had our shit together. And unfortunately,

00:48:50.269 --> 00:48:55.110
you know, some band drama happened. And I just,

00:48:55.170 --> 00:48:59.309
at 66 years old, I don't deal with drama anymore,

00:48:59.469 --> 00:49:02.329
man. I can't. I don't want to. I don't want nothing

00:49:02.329 --> 00:49:04.329
to do with it. I've walked away from friends

00:49:04.329 --> 00:49:07.170
and people I know this year that I've been with.

00:49:07.289 --> 00:49:10.309
And I just can't deal with that bullshit anymore.

00:49:10.329 --> 00:49:15.639
And I won't deal with that. Hey, one quick thing.

00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:18.800
Did you see Post Malone's version of Them Bones?

00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:22.679
Yes, I did. On Howard? Yeah, it's fucking amazing.

00:49:22.860 --> 00:49:24.940
Anyway, sorry. I just had to mention that because

00:49:24.940 --> 00:49:27.159
we were talking about your, you know. No, I mean,

00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:30.139
I've worked so hard on this Alice in Chains shit

00:49:30.139 --> 00:49:32.679
the last four months that it was like it. But

00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:36.420
working through all that. I really worked hard

00:49:36.420 --> 00:49:38.940
on getting us gigs. I had us an unplugged gig

00:49:38.940 --> 00:49:41.260
in Jim Thorpe, Pennsylvania. That was huge. And,

00:49:41.260 --> 00:49:43.219
you know, my band doesn't go out for cheap. We

00:49:43.219 --> 00:49:45.179
don't go out. We don't play bars for three hours.

00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:47.719
We go out for corporate, festival, national.

00:49:48.139 --> 00:49:51.099
I hustle my ass off to get us better gigs because

00:49:51.099 --> 00:49:54.059
that's what I want to do. Yeah, great. But long

00:49:54.059 --> 00:49:56.420
story short, the Alice in Chains project fell

00:49:56.420 --> 00:49:59.559
apart. And immediately I said, you know, I don't

00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:01.159
even know why I put it on hold the last five

00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:02.960
months, listening to other people changing the

00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:04.679
perspective of really what I wanted to do in

00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:08.619
my life with Lakini's Rooster. And now I've got

00:50:08.619 --> 00:50:11.079
some amazing new bandmates, Todd Gearhart on

00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:13.860
bass, I'll mention the names, Eddie Cooley on

00:50:13.860 --> 00:50:18.480
lead guitar, and Tom Knight on drums. And we're

00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:20.420
going to kick ass. We got some great, we have

00:50:20.420 --> 00:50:22.880
our, again, December 15th at Arties of Frenchtown,

00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:27.590
January 6th at the Gin Mill in Northampton. April

00:50:27.590 --> 00:50:30.909
6th at the Sherman Showcase in Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania.

00:50:32.210 --> 00:50:35.389
We're playing Wally Fest at Lake Wallenpaul Pack

00:50:35.389 --> 00:50:38.250
August 31st, which is a huge event probably.

00:50:39.230 --> 00:50:42.869
We've already did it in about 2 ,000 people on

00:50:42.869 --> 00:50:47.480
boats all over the store. Incredible. So I know

00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:48.820
that we don't know the exact link or whatever,

00:50:48.900 --> 00:50:51.000
but where could the crowd or the audience go

00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:53.599
to see a list of your dates? Is there a website?

00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:56.420
Is there some social? Well, McKinney's Rooster

00:50:56.420 --> 00:51:00.539
on Facebook right now and on Instagram, McKinney'sRooster

00:51:00.539 --> 00:51:04.300
.com will be back up probably within another.

00:51:05.369 --> 00:51:08.369
month or so again this band just got together

00:51:08.369 --> 00:51:10.329
we're working really hard we haven't had even

00:51:10.329 --> 00:51:12.849
had time to take photos and do videos or anything

00:51:12.849 --> 00:51:15.010
because we're just prepping for these shows and

00:51:15.010 --> 00:51:17.989
unfortunately some of us are far away so we get

00:51:17.989 --> 00:51:21.510
together maybe once or twice a month and but

00:51:21.510 --> 00:51:23.309
we get our you know everybody knows their parts

00:51:23.309 --> 00:51:26.070
and we nail it all out so luchini's rooster on

00:51:26.070 --> 00:51:30.690
facebook and then evil the band on facebook also

00:51:30.690 --> 00:51:34.389
will have uh all our stuff that's actually what

00:51:34.389 --> 00:51:36.409
you so in other words i think you could do facebook

00:51:36.409 --> 00:51:40.929
.com backslash it would be evil the band i mean

00:51:40.929 --> 00:51:43.949
i'm not 100 sure i i apologize john i mean if

00:51:43.949 --> 00:51:47.130
you punch an evil it'll you know we'll be i'm

00:51:47.130 --> 00:51:49.090
sure it's going to come up or if you punch an

00:51:49.090 --> 00:51:51.670
evil the band that'll come up yeah you know and

00:51:51.670 --> 00:51:55.480
then it'll have You know what I'll do? I'll post,

00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:57.980
I'll post links on this video underneath it.

00:51:58.019 --> 00:52:00.460
So for the audience listening, once our show

00:52:00.460 --> 00:52:02.900
is over, I'll have some links to. Yeah. And then

00:52:02.900 --> 00:52:05.960
you could go on the YouTube. Lachini's rooster

00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:09.159
has, you know, a bunch of videos on there and

00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:11.699
stuff, not with our new band mates yet, but you

00:52:11.699 --> 00:52:16.659
know, but we're on social media. Yeah. I just,

00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:20.639
I just searched it up on, on Facebook, just evil,

00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.480
the band and the search bar comes up. Perfect.

00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:28.420
Thank you, Chad. Thank you. Do you remember the

00:52:28.420 --> 00:52:32.440
first time you got to meet live backstage? Yeah,

00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:36.239
Jeremy Bryant, 2005, Reading, PA. I'll never

00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:38.980
forget it. What do you mean by Jeremy Bryant?

00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:43.119
What does that mean? Jeremy Bryant is a fan,

00:52:43.219 --> 00:52:46.039
a huge fan, like Rich Maxwell and Bob Zazero.

00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:47.920
We've got to have him on, too. We've got to get

00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:52.139
Jeremy on. Yeah, Jeremy's got some deep stories.

00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:54.559
I mean, he was following the band when he was

00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:58.559
like 12 or 13 years old or 13 years old sneaking

00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:03.280
in the bars. He's a great dude, but I went to

00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:05.920
Reading and, you know, we had been hanging out

00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:07.840
at different shows and stuff and he got me a

00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:10.000
backstage pass and took me back. And, man, that

00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:12.659
was incredible. I'll never, never forget that.

00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:14.860
What was his connection? How did he get a pass?

00:53:15.659 --> 00:53:18.199
Who knows, man? I don't know. That's cool. I

00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:24.010
don't know. Curious. I don't know. Did he tell

00:53:24.010 --> 00:53:25.750
the security guard that his mom was up there

00:53:25.750 --> 00:53:27.670
and he was with his younger brother and then

00:53:27.670 --> 00:53:31.030
sneak up there and... Have you heard John's story?

00:53:32.050 --> 00:53:36.909
No. No story, John. Yeah, because... So Starland

00:53:36.909 --> 00:53:40.670
Ballroom, four or five -ish, somewhere around

00:53:40.670 --> 00:53:44.750
there. My brother's like 11 at the time, 10,

00:53:44.849 --> 00:53:48.800
11. And my... girlfriend and mother get backstage

00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:52.980
because they're two hot chicks. And then I'm

00:53:52.980 --> 00:53:55.139
like, I figure it out. So I go to like the security

00:53:55.139 --> 00:53:57.500
guard, you know, to get back there. And I'm like,

00:53:57.559 --> 00:53:59.599
dude, I'm like, I got my younger brother with

00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:03.139
me. My mother's up there. Can you just let us

00:54:03.139 --> 00:54:05.019
go up real quick? Grab my mom so we could go

00:54:05.019 --> 00:54:06.579
home. My father's calling. He's trying to get

00:54:06.579 --> 00:54:09.619
us. He's like, I shouldn't do this, but all right,

00:54:09.619 --> 00:54:12.739
man. So he's like, be quick, come back. But really,

00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:14.300
once I got back there, dude, I could have stayed

00:54:14.300 --> 00:54:17.420
forever and partied. But anywho, I go up there

00:54:17.420 --> 00:54:20.199
like an asshole. I'm like, my girl's name at

00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:22.300
the time was Charlotte and my mother was Sandy.

00:54:22.380 --> 00:54:26.280
I'm like, Charlotte, Sandy, where are you? Killing

00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:28.639
the vibe, dude, completely. Like the room went

00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:31.880
silent. People were looking at me. And lo and

00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:36.000
behold, they were in a closet with Patrick and

00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:39.599
like one or two other people just. greening it

00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:45.460
up and uh that's great so rather than that when

00:54:45.460 --> 00:54:49.139
michael shapiro opened that show oh michael shapiro

00:54:49.139 --> 00:54:52.820
that's right oh my god you know he just got he

00:54:52.820 --> 00:54:54.420
was probably the dude that opened that show because

00:54:54.420 --> 00:54:58.539
i was there dude so i was like such an idiot

00:54:58.539 --> 00:55:01.300
when it came to music at some point in my life

00:55:01.300 --> 00:55:04.420
uh i used to Like, cause I was such a big live

00:55:04.420 --> 00:55:06.480
fan. I never, I didn't really care about the

00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:09.079
opening band. So I would diddle around or like

00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:12.500
do whatever. And years later come back. Oh my

00:55:12.500 --> 00:55:14.840
God. I could have had a good time and enjoyed

00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:19.480
that person, but I don't know. Man. I got a quick

00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:22.260
story for you. It was what year was it? 2018,

00:55:22.699 --> 00:55:28.539
2017. Maybe you guys played at a music fest or.

00:55:29.659 --> 00:55:32.019
i think a show in bethlehem or music fest that

00:55:32.019 --> 00:55:35.840
might have been and uh we're outside doing it

00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:39.039
was when ed was back in the band sure and i was

00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:41.940
listening to you guys doing your sound check

00:55:41.940 --> 00:55:45.000
and stuff and hearing some of the new songs and

00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:46.880
heinz was in there with the phone and then he's

00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:49.300
like like you know billy eddie made bill turn

00:55:49.300 --> 00:55:51.159
the phone off or something like that because

00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:55.340
you know long story short after you guys were

00:55:55.340 --> 00:55:58.179
done Through this loudspeaker, I'm hearing this

00:55:58.179 --> 00:56:01.579
music and I'm like, who the fuck is this? And

00:56:01.579 --> 00:56:04.739
I didn't even know who it was. We get into the

00:56:04.739 --> 00:56:07.420
show and all of a sudden this opener comes on

00:56:07.420 --> 00:56:12.119
and this dude named Kobe. And guys, if you've

00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:15.800
never, Chad, you've heard him, but John, listen

00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:20.539
to this dude, Kobe, man. C -O -L -B -Y? D -O

00:56:20.539 --> 00:56:24.119
-B -I. Ah. Dude, I'll tell you the best band

00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:27.280
that opened for them that, I mean, they should

00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:28.900
be big. I don't know if they really are, but

00:56:28.900 --> 00:56:31.679
they got bigger afterwards. The Alternate Roots.

00:56:31.699 --> 00:56:36.380
Chad, do you remember them? No, I do not. Dude.

00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:41.659
Or they opened for us. At Starland. But they

00:56:41.659 --> 00:56:44.059
did a couple times. So they've done it a couple

00:56:44.059 --> 00:56:48.000
times. It wasn't just Starland. I believe opened

00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:52.449
for you twice. But the time I heard him and fell

00:56:52.449 --> 00:56:54.929
in love was the original time at Starland. And,

00:56:55.010 --> 00:57:00.030
dude, these guys are fucking good. And then they've

00:57:00.030 --> 00:57:02.110
gotten bigger and shit over the time. Like, now

00:57:02.110 --> 00:57:05.050
they got, like, a nine -piece band. This chick

00:57:05.050 --> 00:57:08.489
that sings. But it's real cool, like, acoustic

00:57:08.489 --> 00:57:11.369
rock. The lead guitarist is phenomenal. Chad,

00:57:11.429 --> 00:57:13.750
definitely check him out. The Alternate Roots.

00:57:14.329 --> 00:57:16.449
I'm going to write that down, too. Hold on. Yeah,

00:57:16.449 --> 00:57:18.730
you'll be right. Shit, man. I should have fucking.

00:57:19.369 --> 00:57:23.929
Their one album is, it was an earlier one. I

00:57:23.929 --> 00:57:25.510
think it's called like the Brooklyn sessions,

00:57:25.769 --> 00:57:29.530
but it's acoustic and it's just, it's just bad

00:57:29.530 --> 00:57:33.329
-ass start to finish. The New York based band

00:57:33.329 --> 00:57:35.530
or something. I guess so. Right. Because you

00:57:35.530 --> 00:57:37.650
used to have like some local bands open up for

00:57:37.650 --> 00:57:39.630
like, if you had like two bands open, like one

00:57:39.630 --> 00:57:43.570
was local. Usually. Is it roots? Like R O R R

00:57:43.570 --> 00:57:50.150
O T S R O U T S. Yeah. New T. Yeah. yes sir uh

00:57:50.150 --> 00:57:54.409
the the but the routes routes my bad i mean i

00:57:54.409 --> 00:57:56.909
don't know called roots routes i think we could

00:57:56.909 --> 00:58:00.610
probably do it either way yeah roots routes oh

00:58:00.610 --> 00:58:03.809
you might not yeah huh well it doesn't matter

00:58:03.809 --> 00:58:06.590
um it seems like on apple music they don't have

00:58:06.590 --> 00:58:08.730
that one that i'm talking about but start off

00:58:08.730 --> 00:58:15.989
with um the album get the motherfucking out of

00:58:15.989 --> 00:58:24.969
here um oh yeah uh compilations now uh good and

00:58:24.969 --> 00:58:27.369
reckless and true the alternate route start with

00:58:27.369 --> 00:58:31.369
that album dude the good and reckless and true

00:58:31.369 --> 00:58:36.230
you guys will not be um not be really cool um

00:58:36.230 --> 00:58:43.610
anywho did um have had what made you pick live

00:58:43.610 --> 00:58:47.980
to uh be a cover band of because Not only are

00:58:47.980 --> 00:58:50.699
their, you know, instruments fucking banging

00:58:50.699 --> 00:58:53.320
to play, but their lead singers kind of got a

00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:56.340
unique voice that's kind of hard to match. You

00:58:56.340 --> 00:58:59.719
know, I mean, I'm not going to toot my horn,

00:58:59.860 --> 00:59:03.019
but I mean, I bust my ass trying to sing like

00:59:03.019 --> 00:59:08.079
Ed Kowalczyk. Yeah. I worked hard on his vocals.

00:59:08.219 --> 00:59:11.340
And, you know, I mean, I remember playing a show

00:59:11.340 --> 00:59:16.059
at the Ardmore Theater in Philadelphia or near

00:59:16.059 --> 00:59:19.159
Philly. with a super unknown, a Chris Cornell

00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:21.739
tribute band that is amazing from Philadelphia,

00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:26.059
super unknown, amazing. You'll never hear a better

00:59:26.059 --> 00:59:28.139
Chris Cornell tribute band. And we played a show

00:59:28.139 --> 00:59:30.400
with them in the Ardmore. Long story short, I

00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:32.239
remember, you know, them coming up or people

00:59:32.239 --> 00:59:34.300
coming up afterwards and saying, hey, we really

00:59:34.300 --> 00:59:37.559
thought Ed Kowalczyk was singing for you guys,

00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:40.900
you know. And I've heard it numerous times. I've

00:59:40.900 --> 00:59:45.000
heard, you know, and again, it's something I've

00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:48.519
worked really hard on. Yeah. Do you mind if we

00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:52.659
play a video of you doing? I mean, you can go

00:59:52.659 --> 00:59:55.139
on, you know, YouTube. And if you want to see

00:59:55.139 --> 00:59:58.219
Lakini's rooster, you're going to find all over

00:59:58.219 --> 01:00:01.179
you. We just played. We opened for Hinder a couple

01:00:01.179 --> 01:00:03.940
six months ago or something. That was our opening

01:00:03.940 --> 01:00:06.639
song. Get the hell out of here. You opened up

01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:12.340
for them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, you might want

01:00:12.340 --> 01:00:16.500
to. I mean, John, the greatest man, not the greatest

01:00:16.500 --> 01:00:18.300
man besides live, but the other great man. I

01:00:18.300 --> 01:00:19.940
mean, Kevin Martin from Camelbox. I've opened

01:00:19.940 --> 01:00:22.739
for, you know, a bunch of times for him. He's

01:00:22.739 --> 01:00:27.059
the greatest guy. I love him too, you know? Yeah,

01:00:27.059 --> 01:00:30.199
he's awesome. Yes. He really is. But he seems

01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:34.079
like a cool dude. Just no ego to him. No. He's

01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:37.000
the most un -lead singer, lead singer. Yeah.

01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:40.019
Yeah. I mean, he'll walk into the bar and he'll

01:00:40.019 --> 01:00:45.469
talk to everybody. Yeah. Right. Everybody. Man,

01:00:45.769 --> 01:00:48.929
can he sing, dude. The pipes on that guy, he

01:00:48.929 --> 01:00:55.309
really reminds me of the upgraded 80s hairband

01:00:55.309 --> 01:00:59.250
singer, if that makes sense to you. The new 2

01:00:59.250 --> 01:01:04.849
.0 version of that. He's got some of that 80s

01:01:04.849 --> 01:01:09.789
rock to him. Hardest guy to try to sing, to replicate

01:01:09.789 --> 01:01:22.139
his music. Hardest guy. Hardest guy. Hey, do

01:01:22.139 --> 01:01:24.239
you know, John, the other thing is Lachini's

01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:28.260
rooster, I took him to 210 and we stayed overnight

01:01:28.260 --> 01:01:30.400
and we recorded lightning crashes in the studio.

01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:37.119
That's on Lachini's rooster YouTube page. That

01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:39.880
was an amazing experience. We stayed overnight.

01:01:40.969 --> 01:01:45.590
you know um and it was a blast apparently did

01:01:45.590 --> 01:01:48.309
you do a lakini's juice or something because

01:01:48.309 --> 01:01:50.369
i'm hearing lakini's juices coming or maybe he

01:01:50.369 --> 01:01:56.210
meant lakini's rooster but something yeah there's

01:01:56.210 --> 01:01:59.889
stuff all over on youtube yeah we're just going

01:01:59.889 --> 01:02:01.989
to play a little bit of it so the audience can

01:02:01.989 --> 01:02:04.929
hear and then hopefully hopefully you picked

01:02:04.929 --> 01:02:08.440
a good one yeah Well, hopefully my producer knows

01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:11.239
and kind of checked a couple and kind of like

01:02:11.239 --> 01:02:14.159
made a... Well, the first one that comes up all

01:02:14.159 --> 01:02:17.460
over you is pretty good. You know, our cover

01:02:17.460 --> 01:02:20.719
that we did of Lightning Crash is on there. I

01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:23.639
didn't like the way it came out recorded -wise,

01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:26.719
but... Let's see what he's got. Is this something

01:02:26.719 --> 01:02:30.739
good? Yeah, that's that opening for Buck Cherry

01:02:30.739 --> 01:02:37.170
Litten Alien Ant Farm. Might be all right. Oh,

01:02:37.210 --> 01:02:38.650
that's right. He, for some reason, doesn't have

01:02:38.650 --> 01:02:44.630
volume when he does that. Bobby, copy that link

01:02:44.630 --> 01:02:50.190
and send it to me in the chat. And do it like

01:02:50.190 --> 01:02:52.110
you know what you're doing. Copy the link and

01:02:52.110 --> 01:02:58.409
send it to me in chat. Nice. The kid's all good,

01:02:58.489 --> 01:03:01.610
Chad? Yes, sir. Yep. They're at school right

01:03:01.610 --> 01:03:03.699
now. I dropped them off. wearing my Michael Myers

01:03:03.699 --> 01:03:05.860
mask, and I'm going to pick him up like that,

01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:08.440
the girls at least. I saw that. That was scary.

01:03:10.219 --> 01:03:12.219
My son's laughing at me. He's like, dude, what

01:03:12.219 --> 01:03:16.119
are you doing? How old is he now? He just turned

01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:21.840
14. Wow. And he's taller than me now. Dang. Yeah,

01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:24.059
he's a big boy. Yeah, I have three kids now all

01:03:24.059 --> 01:03:27.079
of a sudden. I know. Yeah, I saw it. Stepkids.

01:03:27.139 --> 01:03:28.780
Yeah, it's freaking awesome. How are you liking

01:03:28.780 --> 01:03:32.219
that? I love it. It's really cool, you know,

01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:34.119
because it's something I didn't experience in

01:03:34.119 --> 01:03:36.719
my whole life that I really wanted to. And, you

01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:39.199
know, like with my golf career of 43 years being

01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:41.760
a golf pro and just that just overtook my whole

01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:43.619
life. And I never made time that I should have

01:03:43.619 --> 01:03:45.380
until I got my shit together. And I love it,

01:03:45.380 --> 01:03:47.760
man. I just I love it. I'm going to teach my

01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:51.639
16 year old son, stepson, Aiden, to play golf

01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:53.280
next year. I'm really excited. Oh, very cool.

01:03:54.119 --> 01:03:56.619
So he's 16. How old are the other ones? Then

01:03:56.619 --> 01:04:00.449
we have a 19 year old. Well, Alexandria just

01:04:00.449 --> 01:04:03.750
went to Westchester University. And then the

01:04:03.750 --> 01:04:08.030
oldest one, Andrew, is just a hardworking, good,

01:04:08.070 --> 01:04:10.389
great young man, man. And they're all three are

01:04:10.389 --> 01:04:13.409
just really great kids. Very cool. Yeah, super.

01:04:13.550 --> 01:04:16.130
It's awesome. You got to you got to skip the

01:04:16.130 --> 01:04:22.369
baby stuff. Yeah, I know. Yeah. All right, gentlemen,

01:04:22.489 --> 01:04:31.190
if you are prepared, we have. We have Mr. Z -Man,

01:04:31.309 --> 01:04:39.269
as they call him, Chris Zelenka. What happened

01:04:39.269 --> 01:04:50.550
to the audio? Uh -oh. There you are. John, no

01:04:50.550 --> 01:04:55.190
audio. You're muted. Ah, okay. There you are.

01:04:55.550 --> 01:05:00.670
Okay. Is this Evil or Lachini's Rooster? Lachini's

01:05:00.670 --> 01:05:03.730
Rooster. Lachini's Rooster and Evil. It's the

01:05:03.730 --> 01:05:07.170
same band, really. We're just covering. But which

01:05:07.170 --> 01:05:10.429
one is this? That day when we did the Buck Cherry

01:05:10.429 --> 01:05:13.769
Lit and Alien Ant Farm, we were Lachini's Rooster.

01:05:14.150 --> 01:05:16.449
Gotcha. All right, guys. Let's check some stuff

01:05:16.449 --> 01:05:20.670
out. And we are doing what song? Lightning Crashes.

01:05:20.909 --> 01:05:25.130
Sounds like Lightning Crashes. I probably have

01:05:25.130 --> 01:05:46.389
the lyrics up on this, too. I want just anybody

01:05:46.389 --> 01:05:49.250
who's doing algorithm to know that this is not

01:05:49.250 --> 01:05:51.710
the original. This is a cover. We're making no

01:05:51.710 --> 01:05:54.309
money off it. So don't fuck with us and take

01:05:54.309 --> 01:06:13.090
us. Damn, dude. What is on your, you hurt your

01:06:13.090 --> 01:06:18.889
arm? Uh, yeah, I got my only one arm's elbows

01:06:18.889 --> 01:06:22.309
fucked up. Wow. But just off the bat, dude, this

01:06:22.309 --> 01:06:24.710
is fucking cool, man. And you kind of look like

01:06:24.710 --> 01:06:27.150
him too. Is that something you were going for

01:06:27.150 --> 01:06:30.889
or did that just happen? You know what happened

01:06:30.889 --> 01:06:34.010
was, like, I lived in Atlantic City for a bunch

01:06:34.010 --> 01:06:35.969
of years as a golf pro. I was hanging out down

01:06:35.969 --> 01:06:38.570
there. And when I moved back to Pennsylvania

01:06:38.570 --> 01:06:42.650
in the 90s or whatever, and then I think I remember,

01:06:42.789 --> 01:06:45.010
like, it was yesterday. It was 1999. I was working

01:06:45.010 --> 01:06:46.849
at the Whitetail Golf Club, and it was the one

01:06:46.849 --> 01:06:48.829
show I went to, and all of a sudden, Kowalczyk

01:06:48.829 --> 01:06:53.389
got his hair. And I was holding on the scraps

01:06:53.389 --> 01:06:55.909
on the side of my head and a couple pieces up

01:06:55.909 --> 01:06:59.780
top. Right. And I remember after that show, I

01:06:59.780 --> 01:07:01.719
came home and I shaved my head and I never looked

01:07:01.719 --> 01:07:04.639
back because I wore a baseball cap all the time.

01:07:04.659 --> 01:07:07.539
I was so embarrassed of my head. But it changed

01:07:07.539 --> 01:07:10.920
all that. Isn't that cool that just one thing

01:07:10.920 --> 01:07:14.840
could totally, you know, change, well, your perception,

01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:18.820
you know, and then probably other people's. Yeah,

01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:23.559
I mean, you know. Which is cool. Back to it.

01:07:24.159 --> 01:08:13.389
Let's go. Yep. all right dude this is where i

01:08:13.389 --> 01:08:36.289
judge everything is on that absolutely wow you

01:08:36.289 --> 01:08:41.229
nailed it dude except for the lyric but you know

01:08:41.889 --> 01:08:45.449
I probably messed up one lyric. Well, fuck it,

01:08:45.449 --> 01:08:48.649
man. It's just the... That part is like, you

01:08:48.649 --> 01:08:52.310
know, killed it. I cover that song more than

01:08:52.310 --> 01:08:56.069
any song. I play 15 times a month. I was just

01:08:56.069 --> 01:08:59.069
going to say, this goes to both you and Chad.

01:08:59.529 --> 01:09:02.609
Do you get sick of playing a song? Let me start

01:09:02.609 --> 01:09:06.130
with Chad because he's playing mostly his original

01:09:06.130 --> 01:09:10.210
stuff. Do you get tired of playing a song? since

01:09:10.210 --> 01:09:13.649
you guys play it so often? No, never got tired

01:09:13.649 --> 01:09:17.510
of it. It's always fun. And I actually loathe

01:09:17.510 --> 01:09:19.170
bands when they go out and they don't play their

01:09:19.170 --> 01:09:22.510
hit. Yeah. We were on tour with, I don't loathe

01:09:22.510 --> 01:09:24.909
it, but I dislike it. We were on tour with the

01:09:24.909 --> 01:09:26.310
Counting Crows and sometimes they wouldn't play

01:09:26.310 --> 01:09:28.050
Mr. Jones. I'm just like, what the fuck, dude?

01:09:28.550 --> 01:09:31.989
Come on. You gotta play Mr. Jones. The great

01:09:31.989 --> 01:09:34.890
thing is they're your own song, so that makes

01:09:34.890 --> 01:09:36.890
a total difference. I was just going to say.

01:09:37.550 --> 01:09:40.550
You know, like... i gotta sit there and cover

01:09:40.550 --> 01:09:42.909
dylan knocking on heaven doors certain nights

01:09:42.909 --> 01:09:44.550
because of the crowd in front of me and i just

01:09:44.550 --> 01:09:46.909
like a god like or can't you see like i'm so

01:09:46.909 --> 01:09:50.250
sick of playing those songs but right what live

01:09:50.250 --> 01:09:52.149
song are you sick of playing and don't say none

01:09:52.149 --> 01:09:57.689
because he's on here let me hear what was that

01:09:57.689 --> 01:10:00.489
you said what live song are you sick of playing

01:10:00.489 --> 01:10:03.109
and don't say none just because chad's on here

01:10:03.109 --> 01:10:06.750
well i mean you know like I play Lightning...

01:10:06.750 --> 01:10:11.069
The only song I play when I play acoustic solo

01:10:11.069 --> 01:10:14.149
is Lightning Crashes. If people are in the crowd

01:10:14.149 --> 01:10:16.369
and they come up, which happens a lot to me,

01:10:16.489 --> 01:10:19.930
and, you know, I can see them reacting to Lightning

01:10:19.930 --> 01:10:21.909
Crashes, I can see they're live fans, and then

01:10:21.909 --> 01:10:23.210
they might come up and say something. Then I'll

01:10:23.210 --> 01:10:26.229
get into, like, Pain Lies on the Riverside or...

01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:29.579
You know, all over you, all over you, acoustic

01:10:29.579 --> 01:10:31.699
or I alone, acoustic or something like that.

01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:34.079
You know, I'll get into a little run based on

01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:36.399
if I see energy in the crowd that if people were

01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:39.819
to react into lightning crashes. Word. So I'm

01:10:39.819 --> 01:10:41.760
going to say that lightning crashes maybe gets

01:10:41.760 --> 01:10:43.659
a little tiresome for you since you play it at

01:10:43.659 --> 01:10:47.039
every show, including acoustic. It gets tired

01:10:47.039 --> 01:10:49.560
for me in a way, but I'll never get tired of

01:10:49.560 --> 01:10:51.380
the reaction I get from the crowd from them.

01:10:51.500 --> 01:10:54.720
Word. That makes sense. But back to it. So I'm

01:10:54.720 --> 01:10:55.819
not going to play the whole thing, but I am going

01:10:55.819 --> 01:10:58.260
to get to chorus and when the drums come in,

01:10:58.340 --> 01:11:55.909
because I got a question for Chad. The second

01:11:55.909 --> 01:12:16.529
part I judge on coming up right now. Yes. Nailed

01:12:16.529 --> 01:12:21.510
it again, dude. For you. When you hear those

01:12:21.510 --> 01:12:23.729
drums come in, do you just like fucking see yourself

01:12:23.729 --> 01:12:25.350
behind the kit and you just want to start rocking?

01:12:28.069 --> 01:12:34.510
No. Don't lie. Don't lie. He has a completely

01:12:34.510 --> 01:12:37.949
different interpretation of it. Yeah. And I'm

01:12:37.949 --> 01:12:40.350
going to say this, Z -Man, you are flubbing some

01:12:40.350 --> 01:12:44.090
lyrics, brah. yeah i know well that was the 20

01:12:44.090 --> 01:12:49.130
that was in 2018 and you know i wasn't paying

01:12:49.130 --> 01:12:51.289
attention as much as i should now i don't scrub

01:12:51.289 --> 01:12:53.569
the lyrics the lightning crashes anymore i don't

01:12:53.569 --> 01:12:57.789
in 2018 you were just getting sober so you weren't

01:12:57.789 --> 01:13:01.869
yourself self yet well you know at that particular

01:13:01.869 --> 01:13:04.510
show i think that was i was only maybe i don't

01:13:04.510 --> 01:13:09.939
even know right early yeah you know it was uh

01:13:09.939 --> 01:13:13.039
yeah actually it was early into that it was probably

01:13:13.039 --> 01:13:15.699
only for four months afterwards so it was right

01:13:15.699 --> 01:13:18.279
right so you weren't yourself yet no actually

01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:20.000
yeah i don't know i can't even remember time

01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:23.199
frames anymore don't mind me but yeah i start

01:13:23.199 --> 01:13:26.199
basically when you're before covid or after so

01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:30.760
bc or fucking that was before covid right no

01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:33.000
i know i'm just saying that's my stupid way of

01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:37.409
like looking yeah i like that no Yeah, all tragedies.

01:13:37.430 --> 01:13:39.449
Okay, so that was before COVID. Now, was it before

01:13:39.449 --> 01:13:45.170
9 -11 or after 9 -11? Okay. You know? Important

01:13:45.170 --> 01:13:49.670
milestones. Totally. But so, yeah, everybody,

01:13:49.829 --> 01:13:51.590
that's the Keeney's Brewster. You can hear they

01:13:51.590 --> 01:13:56.130
fucking rock it. Yeah, sounds great, dude. I've

01:13:56.130 --> 01:13:58.329
seen a lot of cover bands out there. They don't

01:13:58.329 --> 01:14:02.109
sound nearly as good. And then, you know, the

01:14:02.109 --> 01:14:04.569
singer is always way different. And like you

01:14:04.569 --> 01:14:07.810
said, it's different phrasing whenever, but it's

01:14:07.810 --> 01:14:13.050
your own take on his, you know, vocals, but in

01:14:13.050 --> 01:14:19.569
the same range, which is cool. Oh, yes. What's

01:14:19.569 --> 01:14:21.989
your, I know they're both the same band, but

01:14:21.989 --> 01:14:24.250
Lachini's Rooster has got to be where you have

01:14:24.250 --> 01:14:27.170
a little bit more freedom to pick songs because

01:14:27.170 --> 01:14:30.680
it's just not all live songs. Yeah, I mean, we'll

01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:32.960
do Alice in Chains. We'll do Man on the Box Wood.

01:14:33.079 --> 01:14:35.500
We'll do STP. We'll do some Pearl Jam. We'll

01:14:35.500 --> 01:14:41.359
do Bush. We'll do Our Lady Peace. We'll do the

01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:45.399
Zombies. I think Eddie Vedder is an underrated

01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:49.180
singer -musician. I think he's way more talented.

01:14:49.239 --> 01:14:52.180
I mean, I know that their fans appreciate them,

01:14:52.220 --> 01:14:54.739
but I don't think the music community as a whole

01:14:54.739 --> 01:14:58.079
appreciates Eddie Vedder for as good as he is.

01:14:59.760 --> 01:15:02.899
Anybody agree? I mean, I agree. I don't know

01:15:02.899 --> 01:15:07.399
if he's underrated. I mean, he's a pretty famous

01:15:07.399 --> 01:15:10.159
individual. Well, I mean, like, in other words,

01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:12.399
his fans appreciate him and stuff, but you never

01:15:12.399 --> 01:15:14.880
hear him spoken about as, like, what a great

01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:17.500
songwriter, what a great singer, what a great

01:15:17.500 --> 01:15:20.439
guitarist. And he really is great at all of those

01:15:20.439 --> 01:15:24.020
things. I mean, I agree, but he's, I mean, he

01:15:24.020 --> 01:15:26.159
does his own solo stuff, and he does really well.

01:15:26.220 --> 01:15:29.050
I mean, I just think he's... There's such a,

01:15:29.050 --> 01:15:31.069
there's such a, there's such a band, like Pearl

01:15:31.069 --> 01:15:33.409
Jam is such a band. Yeah. I think they write

01:15:33.409 --> 01:15:35.949
everything together. And obviously, I guess,

01:15:35.949 --> 01:15:37.609
I guess Eddie writes all the lyrics. I'm not

01:15:37.609 --> 01:15:40.350
sure, but yeah, I think so. I think he's, you

01:15:40.350 --> 01:15:43.090
know, it's kind of like James Hetfield and Metallica.

01:15:43.109 --> 01:15:45.170
Like it's, it's the band. It's what it's all

01:15:45.170 --> 01:15:48.329
about. Right. Right. Well, I heard that Pearl,

01:15:48.430 --> 01:15:52.430
so the first album 10, the, you know, they had

01:15:52.430 --> 01:15:54.470
the music. He just came and wrote his lyrics

01:15:54.470 --> 01:15:58.659
over. I had heard that too. Yeah. versus I heard

01:15:58.659 --> 01:16:02.020
that it was a band collaboration. But I heard

01:16:02.020 --> 01:16:07.680
Vitality was him writing everything. Don't quote

01:16:07.680 --> 01:16:11.220
me, but I believe that's what I heard. Don't

01:16:11.220 --> 01:16:15.220
quote me. Not sure. Yeah, his solo stuff is great,

01:16:15.380 --> 01:16:19.220
but the last album he put out where it was fucking

01:16:19.220 --> 01:16:22.680
called like ukulele songs, like, come on, dude.

01:16:22.779 --> 01:16:28.479
That is pretentious in my eyes. like you might

01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:32.119
as well yeah you might as well have fucking spoon

01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:38.380
songs in your follow up you know sounds horrible

01:16:38.380 --> 01:16:40.380
by the way every song sounds the same there's

01:16:40.380 --> 01:16:42.579
not much you can do on a ukulele what is there

01:16:42.579 --> 01:16:46.979
four strings and it sounds like like it just

01:16:46.979 --> 01:16:49.979
sounds like you know it's not a great instrument

01:16:49.979 --> 01:16:53.699
that we'll give that a listen to don't well check

01:16:53.699 --> 01:16:55.899
it just so you can see like that i'm not off

01:16:55.899 --> 01:16:58.859
on this like i i'm i'm kind of hitting the mark

01:16:58.859 --> 01:17:05.039
um anywho so um you've been backstage you met

01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:09.119
the band you've got to open for the band there's

01:17:09.119 --> 01:17:11.600
not much left to do except like get on an album

01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:21.510
yeah i mean i don't know You got to try and get

01:17:21.510 --> 01:17:23.770
on a live album. It doesn't sound like you're

01:17:23.770 --> 01:17:29.029
campaigning too hard for it though. Yeah. I,

01:17:29.090 --> 01:17:31.289
you know, if anybody, you know, I would, first

01:17:31.289 --> 01:17:33.970
of all, I, you know, I try not to get into the

01:17:33.970 --> 01:17:36.989
negativity or the whole thing with the band because

01:17:36.989 --> 01:17:42.569
it's not my business. Right. And LSB, Lana, Stephanie

01:17:42.569 --> 01:17:45.590
and Dorinda, you know, I've had some great experiences

01:17:45.590 --> 01:17:48.250
with them and I love them all too. And to see

01:17:48.250 --> 01:17:54.640
them, Who's that? It sucks. Who's Lana, Stephanie,

01:17:54.760 --> 01:17:59.359
and Doreen? The moms. The moms. The moms, except

01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:03.659
Ed's mom. Yeah, so it's Patrick's mom, Chad's

01:18:03.659 --> 01:18:05.859
mom, Chad Taylor's mom, and Chad Gracie's mom.

01:18:05.939 --> 01:18:09.619
They were LSD in the last few years before all

01:18:09.619 --> 01:18:11.439
the shit went down. The three of them were at

01:18:11.439 --> 01:18:14.989
all the shows, and it was a great thing. you

01:18:14.989 --> 01:18:17.569
know i love that you call them lsd that's they

01:18:17.569 --> 01:18:21.670
called no they called themselves lsd you know

01:18:21.670 --> 01:18:23.670
and they had some t -shirts and stuff but uh

01:18:23.670 --> 01:18:27.029
you know like if if somebody needed me to come

01:18:27.029 --> 01:18:29.390
sing a couple songs or do something for whatever

01:18:29.390 --> 01:18:32.329
situation you know i would never turn an opportunity

01:18:32.329 --> 01:18:36.529
like that down but you know yeah i mean why would

01:18:36.529 --> 01:18:46.489
you no absolutely not oh good So Z -Man, do you

01:18:46.489 --> 01:18:49.529
have an idea where you want to take this music

01:18:49.529 --> 01:18:52.989
career? Like, is this what you like? Would you

01:18:52.989 --> 01:18:56.609
like to be in a famous band that's doing originals?

01:18:56.609 --> 01:18:58.630
Or is this kind of how you want to do it? It's

01:18:58.630 --> 01:19:01.710
like, you know, a job to make money, but you're

01:19:01.710 --> 01:19:05.289
not becoming a millionaire, famous rock star.

01:19:06.390 --> 01:19:09.590
You know, I just retired from 43 years as a PGA

01:19:09.590 --> 01:19:12.699
golf. pro at a club you know i've been a club

01:19:12.699 --> 01:19:16.939
pro my whole life and um i that was my career

01:19:16.939 --> 01:19:19.619
now that i'm retired you know and recently married

01:19:19.619 --> 01:19:21.739
my goal is to spend as much time with my wife

01:19:21.739 --> 01:19:25.779
number one uh music she lets me do whatever i

01:19:25.779 --> 01:19:27.739
want to do with music that's a great thing about

01:19:27.739 --> 01:19:29.479
her and our relationship is i can do whatever

01:19:29.479 --> 01:19:32.619
i want um if something came along that there

01:19:32.619 --> 01:19:34.779
was an opportunity that somebody needed something

01:19:34.779 --> 01:19:37.539
and it was right then i would probably jump in

01:19:37.539 --> 01:19:41.970
on it but At 66 years old, I don't see that happening

01:19:41.970 --> 01:19:45.229
anymore, unfortunately. So I just work on being

01:19:45.229 --> 01:19:48.010
positive and doing what I love for me and my,

01:19:48.010 --> 01:19:50.229
you know, and my bandmates to make everybody

01:19:50.229 --> 01:19:54.510
happy. I'm just going to say with that attitude,

01:19:54.710 --> 01:19:56.810
yeah, it will never happen. You got to put it

01:19:56.810 --> 01:19:59.930
in the universe, dude. 66, of course I could

01:19:59.930 --> 01:20:02.729
do this. I put it in the universe to open for

01:20:02.729 --> 01:20:06.590
live, and I did that. John, real quick, I'm going

01:20:06.590 --> 01:20:10.010
to flip my phone over. And these are the bands

01:20:10.010 --> 01:20:13.710
that we've opened for, that I've opened for since

01:20:13.710 --> 01:20:17.170
2015. Oh, cool. Tell me if you could say it.

01:20:19.350 --> 01:20:22.310
Yes. Candlebox, there you go. Right, Candlebox.

01:20:24.270 --> 01:20:33.770
Warren. Live, I mean live. fuck cherry uh hold

01:20:33.770 --> 01:20:36.289
on what's that song put your fucks on i'm on

01:20:36.289 --> 01:20:39.670
top of it i say hey what is it you know it fuck

01:20:39.670 --> 01:20:43.710
tonight or whatever we don't cover about cherry

01:20:43.710 --> 01:20:50.090
sponge the verb sick dude the verb pipe verb

01:20:50.090 --> 01:20:52.989
pipe well they're the ones you do um freshman

01:20:53.680 --> 01:20:57.659
Yes, we were nearly fresh. LA Guns, they just

01:20:57.659 --> 01:21:02.680
lost their drummer, God rest his soul. Trapped.

01:21:03.420 --> 01:21:10.300
DeLorean. Sick. AAF, Alien Amp Farm. Oh, no way.

01:21:11.659 --> 01:21:14.060
What's that? I said, no way. Alien Amp Farm is

01:21:14.060 --> 01:21:18.720
banging, dude. They should be big. Tantric. Bottle

01:21:18.720 --> 01:21:24.869
of Mud. Hinder. Hinder. Dishwalla. Dishwalla.

01:21:26.409 --> 01:21:29.510
Saving Abel. Wow, dude. That is sick. That's

01:21:29.510 --> 01:21:32.270
a lot of bands. All right. So, Chad, if you've

01:21:32.270 --> 01:21:34.390
got to split out now, I'm saying goodbye. Chris,

01:21:34.670 --> 01:21:36.949
thank you so much for coming on. Anything you

01:21:36.949 --> 01:21:38.970
want to plug? Yeah, the only thing I want to

01:21:38.970 --> 01:21:40.489
plug, I want to thank both of you for giving

01:21:40.489 --> 01:21:42.670
me the opportunity. Chad, for taking the time

01:21:42.670 --> 01:21:45.850
and listening to everything I had to say. I appreciate

01:21:45.850 --> 01:21:49.449
it. We didn't really get to hear much of you

01:21:49.449 --> 01:21:53.609
today, and that kind of sucks. We'll have you

01:21:53.609 --> 01:21:55.810
back on, man. It's all good. No, I appreciate

01:21:55.810 --> 01:21:58.329
you. If you've got questions, Z, to ask, my bad.

01:21:58.470 --> 01:22:01.029
We'll get you on again for sure. I appreciate

01:22:01.029 --> 01:22:03.270
you all very much. Thank you for the opportunity.

01:22:03.689 --> 01:22:05.409
Thank you, Chris. Appreciate you too, man. Thank

01:22:05.409 --> 01:22:08.149
you. Thank you, man. Well, the band, Lakini's

01:22:08.149 --> 01:22:10.029
Rooster, you know where to find them. Thank you,

01:22:10.029 --> 01:22:14.810
Chris. Thanks, guys. Thank you, buddy. And we

01:22:14.810 --> 01:22:18.710
are the gracious two left alone. All right, Chad,

01:22:18.909 --> 01:22:21.529
anything you got to tell the audience? Happy

01:22:21.529 --> 01:22:25.020
Halloween. Have a good time tonight. Happy Halloween.

01:22:25.119 --> 01:22:30.140
Did you go out on mischief night? Chad. He's

01:22:30.140 --> 01:22:32.399
going out tonight. It's his mischief night. I'm

01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:33.939
taking the kids out trick or treating. That's

01:22:33.939 --> 01:22:36.859
going out. Okay. All right, ladies and gentlemen,

01:22:36.859 --> 01:22:39.500
thank you so much. We are the gracious few putting

01:22:39.500 --> 01:22:43.020
the shit in bullshit. Later.