Jan. 23, 2024

The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 013 - Larry Hankin

The Gracious Two, JRo (Mr. GoodTimes) and Chad Gracey discussed YouTube taking down their episodes for mentioning vaccines, which they believe stifles free speech. They consider moving to other platforms like Rumble where they can speak freely.

Mr. GoodTimes and Chad Gracey introduced Larry Hankin, known for roles in Home Alone, Breaking Bad and more. They were excited to discuss Hankin's prolific career and ask about his experience filming iconic scenes.

Hankin detailed his small role in Home Alone, originally turning it down until producers insisted, believing the film was cursed. On set his donut scene took many takes, creating the iconic falling crumb moment.

Larry Hankin shared his girlfriend's harrowing ordeal after being arrested in Texas for being a hippie, and being committed to an asylum. He had to get her released and flee the state within 24 hours.

Chad Gracey, JRo and Larry Hankin discussed free speech issues faced by Hankin and others decades ago. Hankin noted today's polarized political climate makes constructive discussions impossible, as people defend views without facts.

Mr. GoodTimes and Chad Gracey thanked Hankin and the audience. They apologized for the short conversation and promised to have Hankin back to continue exploring his fascinating career and perspectives on art, life and politics.

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Preparing. Got it. It's setting up and preparing

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still. All right. I hope... Yeah, I think it

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did work. If you go to check us on Instagram,

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it definitely cuts off half of our body. We got

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to figure out. How or I got to figure out how

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not to do that, but that's all of that. It's

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like weird. Yeah, it seems like we are live everywhere.

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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to live. If you're

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wondering why we're not live on YouTube this

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week, it's because they are taking down our episodes

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for. medical misinformation or some other BS

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like that when we're not giving out any medical

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misinformation. So I just want to let the audience

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know that they're literally stifling free speech.

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And I'm in the process of trying to fix that

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with them, but it's a pain in the ass. And eventually

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I might just say F YouTube and we'll be going

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strictly on rumble or wherever. I mean, It's

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indicative of the state of affairs in this freaking

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country or this world for that matter. Yeah Government

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propaganda is forced down your throat. If you

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say anything against it, you're you know You're

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taking out. Yeah, these and these big tech companies

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fucking just play along with it. It's unbelievable

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the fact that you can't have an open discussion

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and Talk about certain things. It's crazy. We

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do live Yeah. I mean, we do live in the United

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States of America. So, uh, freedom of speech

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is somewhere in our rights. That's a number one

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followed by number two. Yeah. I'm going to take

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a number two on YouTube because they're, uh,

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I just don't like it, dude. It feels, it feels

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like it feels wrong to me. And it is wrong. It's

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fucking inherently wrong. It's especially when

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you're not saying anything that's not true. Exactly.

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It's complete truth. The vaccine doesn't work.

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It didn't work. If, you know, as time went on,

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the effectiveness was 100 % and it was 85%. You

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know, it just went down and down and down. It's

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like, well, no shit. Didn't work at all. Exactly.

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Exactly. You're not allowed to say that on YouTube.

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I mean, come on. It's just nuts. When you can't

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say true things somewhere, there's inherently

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a problem in my eyes. Yeah, well, you should

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be able to say whatever you want, unless you're

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inciting violence or riots, but right, you know,

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right. You can't say fire in a movie theater.

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Great. Great. Right. Right. Right. Fire in a

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movie theater. Just said it. Can't say fire while

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in a movie. Ah, there you go. I want to let people

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know I'm excited, man. I was asked to be a godfather

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to my lovely nephew who's about nine months old.

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Nice. Yeah, I'm excited. an actual godfather.

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So you need to give me some respect. We have

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a fun show, guys. We have Mr. Larry Hanken coming

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on. And I figured what better time than December

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for this lovely man, because I mean, he's been

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in everything, but Home Alone is one of my favorite

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movies. I watch it at least once every Christmas.

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Yeah, if not multiple times. And I just got mad

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questions for him. I mean he's he's friggin prolific.

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I mean he's been in the business since I think

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what 65 or something like that Yeah, second city

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the the comedy group. I mean he's escaped from

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Alcatraz with Clint Eastwood back and I mean

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so many movies and TV shows Breaking Bad El Camino

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the Breaking Bad movie. I mean so cool. Yeah

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totally cool And he's got he was doing comedy

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when Lenny Bruce was doing comedy and like changing

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the game up and talking personal and Larry like

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I think stopped doing it because he was like

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getting arrested for cursing on stage. So I want

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to talk to him about that. I mean, we're talking

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about our free speech being violated. That's

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really violating. But yeah, they were using the

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police and now you just get canceled. Right.

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Right. Now they take away your income before

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they put you in jail. Yeah. Yeah, lovely. But

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there's a bunch of stuff going on in the world.

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I think the the cool the craziest thing going

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on in the world is that feminists now are allowing

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people to be raped by Hamas because they're oppressed.

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I mean, can you fucking believe? Do you believe

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what feminism is now in our day in this day and

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age? It's like men and biological men and women's

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sports. That's cool. Yeah. It's cool if you are

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oppressed persons to rape women. Okay, sounds

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great. Hashtag me too motherfucker. Like what

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the hell is it's like upside down world. It's

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crazy. I haven't met one woman and although they're

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out there on the news and social media, I haven't

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met one woman personally who is okay with biologically

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born males to be competing in sports with biologically,

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you know, made women. I met one that's okay with

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that. It doesn't make any fucking sense. Yeah.

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At all. At all you have feminists that are fucking

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for it. Yeah, it's great like what like even

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though what's a Rapunzel a freaking the soccer

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player chick. She's like, oh, yeah It's a fight.

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She's conveniently retiring, but she's cool with

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men playing in the sport now. Yeah. Okay. Yeah,

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okay I mean a 15 year old boys team beat like

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the pro I think was was the pro girl pro pro

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women's team I mean, I could see it. I mean,

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because if you look at the WNBA versus the NBA,

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I mean, there's a clear and like, it's a very

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defined difference on how they perform and all

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that stuff. Wasn't a Chappelle made a joke about

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LeBron going and playing in WNBA? It scores like

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8 ,000 points. Right, right. Now, if like the

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thing is like, biological women are saying, well,

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you can't say that. Physically all the men are

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better. Okay. Maybe I can't but I could say that

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95 % of them are like if this was a thing and

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it was a battle of brain power Then by all means

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biological males biological women compete all

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you want because women are probably Way smarter

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than men to begin with but from a skill level

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I think some of them could be you know at Probably

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at a level playing field, right is it cat physically

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though? I mean women just aren't men physically.

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Sorry, right happening Yeah, you don't have the

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strength. They don't have the build. They don't

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have the speed. It's just different. Right. Sorry.

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Like if you look at the fastest woman in the

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world compared to the fastest male, I would think

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there's like seconds between and like a bunch

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of them. It's not just like, you know, any reason

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we have women sports. Right. Right. Yo, Chad,

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did you see the beam? You remember that old school

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picture from like the 20s or 30s or 40s or 50s

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where the guys are just on a beam like making

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maybe even the Empire State Building, not sure,

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but they're eating their lunch just on a beam

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like a fire as the Empire State Building being

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constructed in New York. Yes. Yeah. So Rockefeller

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Center now just you go up to the top of the rock

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and you sit on this beam and it goes up on a

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platform and then spins around so you can recreate

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that scene. But you're overlooking New York like

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crazy. You're not strapped in. You're just sitting

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on the beam. But if you fall, you fall like five

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feet onto the roof. But it's still creepy. You

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got to check it out. But you can fall. Yeah.

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I mean, you're not strapped in from last week.

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That's not going to last long. So some fucking

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jackass gets on their balls off. But that's crazy,

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though. It's crazy, man. Wow. I have a huge liability

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for that. Yes. Ah, so here, Bobby's pulled it

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up, actually. Bob, is this the... Is there a

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video of it? If you go to Google or whatever

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you use and just type in the beam at Rockefeller

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Center, it's crazy, dude. I'm watching it happen.

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Yeah, the beam, Rockefeller. Just try that, feller,

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E -R. You're thinking of Rockefellas, and he's...

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There we go. And then yes look at this dude.

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It's that's cool. It is really cool So you got

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a photo you got to have balls to do it though.

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Yeah. Yeah, man Loading loading loading we always

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have to I got to figure out something to to fix

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this because Constantly I'm gonna wait for Bob.

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I'm gonna Take that down and wait for Bobby to

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get it up on his own We do see you waiting there.

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I'm gonna bring in a couple minutes and I just

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wanted to ask Chad about this. Did you see that

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Russia basically 30 ,000 prisoners it led out

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to fight in a war and gave them like six months

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worth of fighting and then if they made it they're

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just free and Yeah, so some most of them died

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a lot died, but some are Made their six months

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and they're getting out now and going right back

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to raping killing burning All that stuff. Yeah.

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So Chad, if you look at the photo to the right

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on the roof of of the top of the rock and it

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literally like I guess Like air pressure something

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pushes the beam up and then it spins around so

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you can overlook the whole city. It's crazy cool.

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Wow So we might have to do a podcast from there

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coming up soon The Fred that'd be great a little

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publicity something first podcast done from the

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bean what to wear wireless mics and all that

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jazz hey hey and then they'd be like this is

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this is uh uh they'll put a fact checker on it

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so this is straight oh yeah oh yeah and if you

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see um that there could be a possible earlier

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version of the Mona Lisa has anybody seen that

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anybody miss either wow yeah so It's like very,

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supposedly it was made by Leonardo da Vinci in

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1503. And I think the other one was completed

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like 15, 16, 15, 16, 15, 17, somewhere around

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there. But they're saying like, I don't know,

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because the face, they're saying this is Mona

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Lisa, whatever, who was younger at the time.

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But they're saying like the way it's painted,

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it doesn't have like Leo's face structure. And

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so because he was real. anatomy, you know. Yes,

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right. Interesting. But it's cool. Yeah, look

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it up. I mean, the background is very rudimentary.

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She looks, you know, not as not as cool, but

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hey, if it is, where do they find this? I don't

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know. It's been sold at auction before. Oh, God.

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Yeah. And I think they carbon dated. I'm not

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100 percent sure, but it could have been carbon

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dated to around the time. But then, you know,

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somebody knew. Leonardo da Vinci did that they

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did their own version so it's around the time

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like it was it was a famous commissioned painting

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from what I'm hearing and and the when Leonardo

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da Vinci was doing it he was kind of doing self

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promotion back in the day and it was for some

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Kings it was like some Kings mistress who Lisa

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was and it was like he or at least is what Leonardo

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said like this is a self portrait of the Kings

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mistress which was controversial at the time

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because the King shouldn't have had a mistress

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so to speak Um, so I don't know. There's some

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there's some coolness to it. I'm gonna look more

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into it, but just check doesn't it crazy what

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art has it become? I mean that used to be art,

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you know, like the Mona Lisa and classic paintings

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and now art's like someone puts a fucking square

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on the wall takes a picture. Oh my god. Yeah

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in the fucking museum like what is going on here?

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Yeah, there's some art where I'm like, dude,

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I think I could do that and I'm not artistic

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at all. You know what I'm saying? But apparently

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they're old but the strokes and the lines enough

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get the hell out of Hunter Biden is a fucking

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artist, too. He's awesome. I mean, I saw some

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of this stuff. It's not half bad. I mean, just

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that's from a coked out Hunter Biden, you know,

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I'm gonna I'm gonna let Larry in. All right.

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All righty then. So yeah, pretty exciting time.

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Are you are you ready for Christmas chat? Are

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you getting the kids gifts and all that good

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stuff? I've been doing some online shopping,

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yes. My girls still believe in Santa. Shh, don't

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tell anybody. Oh, nice. They're not there. They're

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nine. It'll be 10 January. So they're still still

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believing in Santa. I got to keep that line going

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for as long as I can. Hell, yeah, dude. I mean,

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that's what makes awesome. I was gonna say, that's

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what makes it fun. You know what I'm saying?

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You got to kind of stick with that. They do help

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on the shelf, too. That's, you know, kind of

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newer things. So I got it. the elf comes every

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night and gives them a little larry hello larry

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welcome well what happened i have no idea i didn't

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know how i got no either you just appeared i

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just appeared on the screen i don't know i didn't

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touch anything larry loving the long hair man

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you look you look great oh well thank you very

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much um i like your your hair is kind of cool

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actually Chad's a rock star, so he's got the

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cool hair, yeah. Okay, Chad, yeah, right. Sir.

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Okay, thank you. I don't know how to... I don't

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know... Okay, well, I got like a million videos

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on the screen right now. Okay, fine. I can handle

00:14:15.149 --> 00:14:19.820
it. All right. The House of Mirrors. Yeah, totally.

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We were just speaking about artists, Larry, and

00:14:22.139 --> 00:14:25.620
you actually do some really cool art. I see some

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in the background, but you know, yeah, yeah,

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there and there. Oh, yeah. I mean, he does some

00:14:31.220 --> 00:14:33.360
cool stuff, man. If you if you get close to it

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or and if you go to what is it? Your website

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is Larry Hanken. It's the art is a Larry Hanken.

00:14:44.580 --> 00:14:48.139
No, the real Larry Hanken dot com. Yes. If you

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go to TheRealLarryHankin .com, yeah, that's all

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the art is on there. It's about 40 of them, I

00:14:53.860 --> 00:14:57.860
guess. I don't know. Just aim this thing better.

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Perfect. Weird. Well, we're weird, so it works.

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I guess. Larry, I got a question for you. Yeah.

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So it's kind of twofold. When you were filming

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Home Alone, did you? Yeah. Any inkling that this

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was going to be as huge as it became? No, I write

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about it in the book. You know, that guy, I don't

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know if you know, I have a book out called that

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guy. And it's about all that stuff and home alone.

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No, I didn't even want to do it. I mean, I turned

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it down several times because it's just a small

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little row. You know, I mean, I And I didn't

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even know what the role was. They just said it

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was three lines, that's all. They just said,

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well, it's a long story, which is in the book,

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but they wanted me in because they thought the

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movie was cursed. This is true. They thought

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the movie was cursed because nothing was working.

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And I was up for one of the lead roles and I

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didn't get it. So they thought the way they handled

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me in auditioning and turning me down and stuff,

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they thought that that was kind of bad, bad form.

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It was uncool. But they took it to heart and

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they treated with me and negotiated with me because

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I didn't want to do it. I got angry. I finally

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did it. So no, we had no idea that it would be

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as big as it. I had no idea. I mean, all I was

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thinking was, I don't want to do this. You know,

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why are they bothering me? And it turned out

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they were bothering me because they thought that

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the way they handled me in the audition process

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was a bad omen. And they were trying to get rid

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of the curse of them. on handling me wrong. They

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thought if they get me back in the movie, hire

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me. Right. The curse would be lifted, which was

00:17:14.809 --> 00:17:17.170
ridiculous. I never heard of anything like that.

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These grown men, and they're talking about, you're

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like, you know, producers. So I finally, you

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know, they offered me so much money that I go,

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well, I think, okay, fine, you know, if you want

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me, I'll do it. Yeah. But it was, you know, a

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very small role. And so I just, you know, I flew

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and I mean, it took me. Well, it took me a little

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while to do because because they thought because

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the curse was happening while I was there when

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they hired me to get rid of the curse because

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they, you know, screwed around with me. Right.

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When I got there and they started to film this

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little piece of me in the police department.

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It was going wrong. And I suddenly realized,

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oh my God, this is what they're talking about.

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The movie is cursed. I mean, I was convinced

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when I got there, finally I said, oh my God,

00:18:11.130 --> 00:18:13.230
they're right. It's cursed. I don't know if it

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was because of me, but holy cow. So it took us

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a long time to do it because of this curse thing.

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you know, things would happen, lights would break,

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the camera would go off the track, the camera

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jiggled this. I mean, we had to shoot it 10 times

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for three lines. I was the only one in that little

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thing. I'm the only one, you know, it's just

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a camera going like that across. We had to shoot

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it 10 times and everybody was thinking, oh my

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god, it is cursed. This is true. They're all

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standing around gone. The producers were like,

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white. I mean, and thinking, well, what are you

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going to do? This is not working. And then finally

00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:06.859
we just got it and we finally got the shot. And

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they said, OK, get in the car because they had

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hired a limo and a first class ticket for me.

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And plus a lot of money. It was it was finally

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done and they wanted to get me back to the plane

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because I had a ticket Now there was that the

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plan was First class get him in you know limo

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from the airport to the get him in shoot him

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It'll only take one or two shots, you know, right

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20 minutes the most Get him back in the same

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limo the limo didn't even leave it was waiting

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outside for me and then back to the airport so

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the limo was waiting and 10 shots and everybody's

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going oh my god oh my god the curse the curse

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so finally when they got it i didn't want to

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leave because i wanted to know why it worked

00:20:00.130 --> 00:20:05.210
on the 10th but not nine other times i i and

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um i don't know how i found out oh um well no

00:20:11.710 --> 00:20:14.470
there were just mistakes it just was a coincidence

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that it took nine shots i mean right that's what

00:20:17.529 --> 00:20:22.130
happened uh but they had I demand they wanted,

00:20:22.589 --> 00:20:25.269
because they were paying me so much money, you

00:20:25.269 --> 00:20:28.710
know, for this first class flight and a limo

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and everything, they wanted to make sure everything

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worked, you know, because they were spending

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so much money for this one actor to come in and

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do three lines. It was ridiculous. So they kept

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on checking and I said, and they, because they

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were paying me so much money, they asked me,

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do you want anything? Is there anything you require?

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Because they were treating me like a star. Yeah.

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Like I said, and I'm thinking, these are three

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lines. What are they asking me what I want? I

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don't know. It was just very confusing. So I

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said, yeah, I want to be eating a donut when

00:21:02.970 --> 00:21:05.549
I say the three line. I mean, that was my big

00:21:05.549 --> 00:21:08.369
request. And I said, I want to be eating a dumb

00:21:08.369 --> 00:21:10.970
cop. I want to be eating a donut. Oh, I love

00:21:10.970 --> 00:21:14.329
it. So, yeah, that's where it came from. I just

00:21:14.329 --> 00:21:16.069
said, well, it's a cop, right? Because, yeah,

00:21:16.130 --> 00:21:18.839
yeah, it's a cop. They were on the phone. before

00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:20.980
the shoot you know and I said well okay I want

00:21:20.980 --> 00:21:23.960
to be eating a donut a glazed donut and I said

00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:26.539
that at the second time no it's got to be a glazed

00:21:26.539 --> 00:21:28.880
donut I want to glaze as long as I'm asking I'm

00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:32.700
as well you know get the best kind of donut so

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they they said okay fine I mean they were surprised

00:21:35.579 --> 00:21:38.339
they said that's all you want just a glazed donut

00:21:38.339 --> 00:21:41.059
I said one glazed donut I want to be eating it

00:21:41.059 --> 00:21:43.460
yeah okay thank you okay to hung up and then

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the next day I flew And when I got there, the

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first thing I said out of my mouth, before I

00:21:49.619 --> 00:21:52.559
even said, hello, as I'm approaching, I said,

00:21:53.099 --> 00:21:55.500
you got the doughnut. Where's my glazed doughnut?

00:21:55.700 --> 00:21:57.799
Yes. And they didn't want to even think about

00:21:57.799 --> 00:21:59.920
that. They were thinking the movie is cursed.

00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:02.160
We've got to get this actor in, say his lines,

00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:04.359
and out of here. We've got to, you know, they're

00:22:04.359 --> 00:22:09.859
thinking doughnut. Right. They said, yeah, don't

00:22:09.859 --> 00:22:11.799
worry about it. Don't worry about it. Just get

00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:13.900
in your costume and let's just do this. They

00:22:13.900 --> 00:22:17.079
were just all flummoxed. So I got in the costume,

00:22:17.220 --> 00:22:20.160
but when I came out, I said, I want my donut.

00:22:20.420 --> 00:22:23.200
And I look at the camera. The whole thing was

00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:26.019
set up, waiting for me to get out of the plane,

00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:28.900
into the seat, and out of there. Right. Everything

00:22:28.900 --> 00:22:31.440
was set up. I just had to walk in, do my three

00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:34.000
lines, and get out of there. That's how weird

00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:37.019
it was. And when I looked next to the camera,

00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:40.279
and there was a, you know, these rolling trays

00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:42.319
and bakeries that, you know, they have these

00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:46.000
things. Okay. Right next to the camera was a

00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:49.960
rolling doner, was a rolling bakery tray. Oh

00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:52.940
wow. And all that was 20, you know, things. And

00:22:52.940 --> 00:22:59.160
on each level tray was 30 donuts. Oh my goodness.

00:22:59.779 --> 00:23:03.019
So there was like, I think, The way I counted

00:23:03.019 --> 00:23:05.079
it, maybe there was more trays, but anyway, I

00:23:05.079 --> 00:23:10.079
counted 600 donuts. Wow. 600 on this one tray.

00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:15.279
And I left, I was so surprised. I said, I just

00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:18.119
wanted one glazed donut. That's all I ate for,

00:23:18.299 --> 00:23:21.019
you know. I was totally confused and the producer

00:23:21.019 --> 00:23:23.799
thinking, this is a big joke. Oh yeah. He said,

00:23:23.900 --> 00:23:26.359
well, we may have to do a second shot, you know,

00:23:27.180 --> 00:23:32.700
second take. Ha ha ha ha. We did it and thank

00:23:32.700 --> 00:23:36.180
God they had 300 or 600 doughnuts. However, but

00:23:36.180 --> 00:23:40.440
there was hundreds, right? I mean 10 times and

00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:43.079
thank God there was 600 doughnuts because we

00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:46.180
needed 10 doughnuts I ate a donut each each time

00:23:46.180 --> 00:23:49.039
it was getting sick from the Donuts. Yeah, you're

00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:55.339
lazy. Now here's the whole point of this Story

00:23:55.339 --> 00:23:58.660
that in the film when you go watch it if you

00:23:58.660 --> 00:24:01.680
ever do families watch it every Christmas same

00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:04.920
I do all time. Okay, so now when you watch it

00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:08.640
check this out When I'm eating the doughnut when

00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:11.359
I'm eating the doughnut and talking on the phone

00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:15.819
a Crumb falls out of my mouth. There's a lot

00:24:15.819 --> 00:24:17.680
of crumbs falling all over the place, you know,

00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:19.779
they had it You know like sweep up each time

00:24:19.779 --> 00:24:23.339
they want to do another take On the last take

00:24:23.339 --> 00:24:28.240
the 10th take a crumb falls and it sticks on

00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:32.740
the mouthpiece. Now every kid in the world just

00:24:32.740 --> 00:24:36.440
comes up to me and says, how did you do the crumb?

00:24:36.539 --> 00:24:38.839
They don't care about me or the movie. They just

00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:40.700
wonder, how did you do the crumb? How did you

00:24:40.700 --> 00:24:45.420
do the crumb? And they go, was it a wire? Was

00:24:45.420 --> 00:24:48.680
it CGA? Was it a green screen? How did you do

00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:52.039
that? Was there somebody working the crumb? No.

00:24:52.539 --> 00:24:56.799
And I wouldn't leave after they got it. Nobody

00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:59.740
even saw the crumb during the take. It's after

00:24:59.740 --> 00:25:02.940
when the film came out and all these kids saw

00:25:02.940 --> 00:25:04.799
it. They came up to me and everybody said, how

00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:12.819
did they do the crumb? Somebody said, they said,

00:25:12.900 --> 00:25:15.079
yeah, we got it. And I said, well, wait a minute.

00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:19.000
Everybody laughed on that 10th take when the

00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:22.690
director said cut. Everybody laughed. But nobody

00:25:22.690 --> 00:25:25.049
left the other nine times when he said cut, you

00:25:25.049 --> 00:25:28.170
know, we got to do it again So I say why did

00:25:28.170 --> 00:25:30.150
everybody laugh on the tenth take and they said

00:25:30.150 --> 00:25:32.710
it doesn't really matter Larry we got it. It's

00:25:32.710 --> 00:25:36.430
it's good. We got it and Everybody had seen the

00:25:36.430 --> 00:25:39.690
crumb and that's why they left and they wanted

00:25:39.690 --> 00:25:42.470
to keep that that was like, you know capturing

00:25:42.470 --> 00:25:45.630
Lightning at a bottle. Well, it was a mistake

00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:48.700
And it was just great and everybody left. They

00:25:48.700 --> 00:25:50.519
said, oh, that's really funny. Let's put it in

00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:52.619
the movie. And I said, no, I want to see the

00:25:52.619 --> 00:25:54.740
mistake. And they said, no, don't worry about

00:25:54.740 --> 00:25:56.880
it. Just get in the car. You've got plane tickets.

00:25:57.019 --> 00:25:59.359
We've got to get you out of here. Because part

00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:01.440
of the contract was I had to sleep in my own

00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:05.700
bed the same day. So they wanted to get me out

00:26:05.700 --> 00:26:08.420
of there. I could complain. There's no, get in

00:26:08.420 --> 00:26:10.680
the limo. Get him to the airport. No. And I said,

00:26:10.740 --> 00:26:13.559
no, I'm not going until I figure this out. So

00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:17.640
I went to the bakery tray, which still had some

00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:22.000
donuts left. And I checked and I said, one of

00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:25.140
the things was the light broke on the ninth take.

00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:29.140
A light exploded right above because there was

00:26:29.140 --> 00:26:33.220
a soundstage. But it was very hot. So we all

00:26:33.220 --> 00:26:36.980
figured, oh, it's so hot. But it was part of

00:26:36.980 --> 00:26:40.359
the curse. We had to do it again. It was in the

00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:44.160
middle of the take. So I went over to the bakery

00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:47.799
tray and I looked and I saw the heat was so hot

00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:51.000
in this soundstage that the glaze on all the

00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:55.000
donuts were melted. It got soft. So when the

00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:57.799
donut I was eating it was a part of the glaze

00:26:57.799 --> 00:27:01.579
and the donut that fell and the glaze acted like

00:27:01.579 --> 00:27:04.839
glue so it just stuck. And the whole point was

00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:07.619
that the glue was just enough to keep it there,

00:27:07.700 --> 00:27:09.740
but not enough to keep it still. And it was on

00:27:09.740 --> 00:27:12.180
the side. So, you know, the microphone is here.

00:27:12.420 --> 00:27:15.299
It didn't land here. It landed here. So this

00:27:15.299 --> 00:27:19.759
crumb, just very slowly, hypnotically, was rolling

00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:24.839
attached by the glaze, just rolling down the

00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:27.799
side. And it wouldn't drop. And, you know, all

00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:30.460
logic said, gravity's got to make it drop, all

00:27:30.460 --> 00:27:32.980
the other. crumb, but it didn't. So it was like

00:27:32.980 --> 00:27:35.279
hypnotic. That's what the kids were watching.

00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:39.319
You know, so, so I figured out, oh, it's the

00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:42.160
glaze. It's it's melted. So that's what I said.

00:27:42.220 --> 00:27:44.519
Okay, put me in a limo. So they flew me home

00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:49.339
and I slept in my own bed. But so, yeah, I explained

00:27:49.339 --> 00:27:51.940
it in the movie a little more concisely, but

00:27:51.940 --> 00:27:56.920
I mean, in the book more. Can I just add one,

00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:00.359
one more thing? Yes. And the one thing is, It's

00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:02.460
Christmas, it's coming up for Christmas, you

00:28:02.460 --> 00:28:05.440
know, coming up 20 more days or whatever. And

00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:11.299
the book, not that one particular chapter, but

00:28:11.299 --> 00:28:14.000
the entire book, would be a great Christmas present.

00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:16.940
That's all I'm saying. Yes, I agree. Great Christmas

00:28:16.940 --> 00:28:20.299
present. It's so, you know, it's just right on.

00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:24.819
Everybody loves it. It's got, I think, 14 or

00:28:24.819 --> 00:28:29.519
15 gold stars on Amazon. It's pretty good. Yeah.

00:28:29.819 --> 00:28:33.519
It's got great reviews. OK, that's it. That's

00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:37.480
my air. That's Donut Story was the number one

00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:40.099
question that everybody was throwing at me once

00:28:40.099 --> 00:28:41.539
they found that you were coming on. They're like,

00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:45.119
ask him if that just happened. If that was. Wow.

00:28:45.299 --> 00:28:49.220
See, I told them not kidding around. Kids come

00:28:49.220 --> 00:28:51.859
if I walk on the street and a father with his

00:28:51.859 --> 00:28:55.140
kid is walking, the kid will run up to me. How

00:28:55.140 --> 00:28:57.299
did you do the donut thing? How did you do the

00:28:57.299 --> 00:29:00.460
crumb, the crumb? Then there's not you know great

00:29:00.460 --> 00:29:03.759
acting not great, you know cinematography nothing.

00:29:03.980 --> 00:29:08.519
I love the crumb. It was all in the crumb. I

00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:10.900
didn't do it you, not do it shooting. But the

00:29:10.900 --> 00:29:13.819
more the movie came out, it was a big hit. So

00:29:13.819 --> 00:29:17.220
I did lift the curse. I did my job. I did my

00:29:17.220 --> 00:29:20.460
job. Whatever it was, I did my job. Imagine they

00:29:20.460 --> 00:29:23.019
were right with that and they had to bring you

00:29:23.019 --> 00:29:24.460
back because the movie would have been cursed.

00:29:24.700 --> 00:29:27.980
Oh man, I gotta shut this. I can't shut this

00:29:27.980 --> 00:29:39.160
off. God damn it. Oh, man. And it goes. I will

00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:44.099
come back on when this hangs up, I think. Yeah,

00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:47.779
I can hear you. Yeah, there's no worries. But

00:29:47.779 --> 00:29:54.380
you can't see me. Am I on the screen? Oh, wow.

00:29:54.990 --> 00:29:57.349
Maybe you can't see you. If the phone call pulled

00:29:57.349 --> 00:29:59.170
up on your computer, it might have pulled away

00:29:59.170 --> 00:30:01.210
from Zoom. You might just have to click on Zoom

00:30:01.210 --> 00:30:08.230
to see. Well, I'm on Zoom. Let's see. Well, maybe

00:30:08.230 --> 00:30:13.250
I'm on Zoom. Yeah. Well, everybody could see

00:30:13.250 --> 00:30:17.230
you're golden. How about now, Larry? Because

00:30:17.230 --> 00:30:19.569
I know last time we spoke, I believe it was two.

00:30:19.750 --> 00:30:23.329
But how many books you on now? I got three. I'm

00:30:23.329 --> 00:30:25.670
writing, I'm just finished my third book. I'm

00:30:25.670 --> 00:30:28.329
just finishing it right now. I'm on to the, I'm

00:30:28.329 --> 00:30:32.210
just polishing the last 10 pages so it ends really

00:30:32.210 --> 00:30:36.450
cool. But yeah, but that was, that's a memoir.

00:30:36.950 --> 00:30:40.509
The Home Alone stuff called That Guy. It's called

00:30:40.509 --> 00:30:42.630
That Guy. It's on Amazon. It's a great Christmas.

00:30:44.910 --> 00:30:48.369
That's a memoir. That's a reality. It's real.

00:30:49.589 --> 00:30:54.970
In other words, it's a nonfiction book. But this

00:30:54.970 --> 00:30:57.630
one I just finished, which is called Barnum's

00:30:57.630 --> 00:31:01.509
Journal. That's a fiction. I made it up. I've

00:31:01.509 --> 00:31:03.910
never seen this. So I thought I would write it

00:31:03.910 --> 00:31:12.089
because I'd never seen it. Nonfiction is a very

00:31:12.089 --> 00:31:18.400
small sales. book sales. Right. No, but not many

00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:22.599
people buy nonfiction books. The mass market

00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:26.980
is fiction. Right. And 80 % of that mass market

00:31:26.980 --> 00:31:30.900
is women. Really strange, but it's true. So women

00:31:30.900 --> 00:31:35.880
buy 80 % of the books out there. So I thought

00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:39.579
my second, my third book would be a nonfiction

00:31:39.579 --> 00:31:44.529
book. So what I did was I made up a memoir. I

00:31:44.529 --> 00:31:47.170
made up a character, like an actor, and then

00:31:47.170 --> 00:31:49.970
I gave him a life, and then I wrote his life.

00:31:50.450 --> 00:31:54.730
So it's a fiction, non -fiction book. So I thought,

00:31:55.089 --> 00:31:57.490
I've never seen one. I've never seen a non -fiction

00:31:57.490 --> 00:32:01.809
memoir. But I think there must be some out there.

00:32:02.269 --> 00:32:05.130
Anyway, so that's coming out. That'll take a

00:32:05.130 --> 00:32:08.190
couple of months to come out. So that guy is

00:32:08.190 --> 00:32:10.829
the one to get for Christmas. Now we spoke last

00:32:10.829 --> 00:32:13.390
time. Are you going to read the audio version

00:32:13.390 --> 00:32:15.549
of the audio book because I'm thinking about

00:32:15.549 --> 00:32:18.349
it. If I can get this Christmas pitch out, if

00:32:18.349 --> 00:32:22.410
I can get enough because my my publisher won't

00:32:22.410 --> 00:32:26.569
pay for the reading of the book. But it turns

00:32:26.569 --> 00:32:31.029
out that if the author of the book, any book,

00:32:31.490 --> 00:32:34.589
the author of the book does the reading and the

00:32:34.589 --> 00:32:37.650
buyer of the book knows that that, oh, it's read

00:32:37.650 --> 00:32:42.490
by the by the author. Then it'll sell way more

00:32:42.490 --> 00:32:45.509
than if just they hire a professional reader

00:32:45.509 --> 00:32:48.309
to read it. Absolutely. I'm gonna read it, but

00:32:48.309 --> 00:32:52.849
but it costs money So I'm gonna have to see how

00:32:52.849 --> 00:32:56.230
this Christmas move does and that'll give me

00:32:56.230 --> 00:32:59.569
enough money to do that So Larry what what other

00:32:59.569 --> 00:33:01.849
role were you up for at home alone that they

00:33:01.849 --> 00:33:04.930
didn't give you? Daniel Stern's role. Oh, really?

00:33:05.089 --> 00:33:10.660
Okay So, so yeah, so when I didn't get it that

00:33:10.660 --> 00:33:13.940
that role Yeah, um, and you know, I mean you

00:33:13.940 --> 00:33:16.579
get roles and you don't get a role You know that

00:33:16.579 --> 00:33:20.079
you just go in you do it and either you get it

00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:22.740
or not I you know, I don't dwell on it. You just

00:33:22.740 --> 00:33:26.259
dump it and go on to the next job So when I didn't

00:33:26.259 --> 00:33:29.339
get it, I just you know, okay fine, but then

00:33:29.339 --> 00:33:32.259
they called me You know a couple of weeks later

00:33:32.259 --> 00:33:35.039
three weeks later and say hey man the movie is

00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:39.240
cursed, Daniel Stern is going to quit if he doesn't

00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:42.680
get more money. As much money as Joe Pesci. Oh,

00:33:42.819 --> 00:33:45.000
God. Daniel Stern was trying to act like a star

00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:47.160
and I want more money. So they said we're going

00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:49.599
to fire him. You know, he's not worth what Joe

00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.259
Pesci gets. So we're going to get Larry Hakin.

00:33:52.460 --> 00:33:57.000
And they told Daniel Stern that. They said, well,

00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:02.460
we have Larry is our next, if you quit, we'll

00:34:02.460 --> 00:34:05.220
let you quit. Right, you know the money and we're

00:34:05.220 --> 00:34:08.739
gonna get Larry So they told him that and so

00:34:08.739 --> 00:34:11.559
he didn't quit he said well because they not

00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:14.159
because of me is because they were gonna replace

00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:17.280
them in other words his trick didn't work his

00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:21.559
blood work So he just said none. Okay. I'll work

00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:24.059
for the so when they called me and they said,

00:34:24.059 --> 00:34:26.260
you know, we're gonna give you three lines because

00:34:26.260 --> 00:34:28.440
we want you in because it how he handled you

00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:35.440
with the Daniel Stern thing they said I was insulted

00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:38.260
because, and I told him this, I said, you're

00:34:38.260 --> 00:34:42.639
asking me to be back in the movie, and the only

00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:49.000
available part is a cop to say three lines after

00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:52.860
I was going to co -star with Joe Pesci, according

00:34:52.860 --> 00:34:58.170
to you. I said, no, that's ridiculous. Three

00:34:58.170 --> 00:35:02.309
lines after being a costar. No, I thought, you

00:35:02.309 --> 00:35:04.769
know, these guys, what are they doing? This is

00:35:04.769 --> 00:35:07.469
they're trying to, you know, prank me or something.

00:35:07.849 --> 00:35:11.269
That's why I kept on turning it down. Wow. Hey

00:35:11.269 --> 00:35:13.570
man, I was going to be costar with Joe Pesci,

00:35:13.690 --> 00:35:15.789
you know, three line, no. So, you know, I just

00:35:15.789 --> 00:35:18.849
playing games with them because I figured, well,

00:35:18.869 --> 00:35:21.210
you know, what am I going to get $200, $100,

00:35:21.670 --> 00:35:24.190
you know, whatever they pay for three lines.

00:35:24.349 --> 00:35:26.989
I don't know. That's like, oh, what's that? So

00:35:26.989 --> 00:35:29.030
that's why I kept and then finally when they

00:35:29.030 --> 00:35:31.929
hit me with the first class and the limos and

00:35:31.929 --> 00:35:34.789
the Thousands of dollars they were gonna pay

00:35:34.789 --> 00:35:42.599
me well Okay What a great story and To be honest,

00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:44.780
because when Daniel started in that role, you're

00:35:44.780 --> 00:35:46.340
like, oh, that's a perfect role for him. But

00:35:46.340 --> 00:35:48.920
then you think Larry Hankin in that role. I would

00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:51.280
have, I would have killed. But you know, I would

00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:53.280
have killed it every job I didn't get, you know,

00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:57.480
that's like a hunt. If I got 100, I think I found

00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.679
out from the, from podcasters like you, because

00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:04.079
they do research. So they told me, several have

00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:12.239
told me that I've done, I've had 203 jobs. Wow.

00:36:13.260 --> 00:36:18.099
Movies, television, I have 203. But that means

00:36:18.099 --> 00:36:20.579
that I've auditioned five times more than that,

00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:23.239
because my averages are like, I get one out of

00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:26.139
five. Generally, it's one out of seven, something

00:36:26.139 --> 00:36:27.980
like that, one out of five, one out of seven,

00:36:28.099 --> 00:36:31.480
one out of 10, that you get. So that means that

00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:38.980
five times 200 is what I didn't get. Right. You

00:36:38.980 --> 00:36:43.119
know, it makes you it calms you down, you know,

00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:46.719
you think you're that big a deal Find it fascinating

00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:49.539
because everything I've seen you in and I'm not

00:36:49.539 --> 00:36:50.840
saying this because you're on the show I'm being

00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:54.219
honest you actually add to it every scene that

00:36:54.219 --> 00:36:57.119
you're in whether it's a small roll or a big

00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:59.860
roll you bring a lot to the table and really

00:36:59.860 --> 00:37:03.019
amp up what's going on so for casting directors

00:37:03.019 --> 00:37:06.360
to Kind of see that in your tenure doing, you

00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:09.730
know auditions up into not have you uh in it

00:37:09.730 --> 00:37:13.070
it just blows my mind that people are that uh

00:37:13.070 --> 00:37:15.269
well they that was the only part they had left

00:37:15.269 --> 00:37:16.929
because there were three weeks into the movie

00:37:16.929 --> 00:37:19.449
and they told me i mean because i i i asked a

00:37:19.449 --> 00:37:22.550
lot of questions about the whole thing uh they

00:37:22.550 --> 00:37:24.570
were into the movie of three weeks and the reason

00:37:24.570 --> 00:37:27.070
that they called me was after three weeks of

00:37:27.070 --> 00:37:30.250
shooting yeah for three days or they were into

00:37:30.250 --> 00:37:33.179
it they were shooting it After the amount of

00:37:33.179 --> 00:37:35.320
days that they were shooting, nothing was working

00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:37.380
according to them, according to the producers.

00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:40.900
They said nothing was going right. And then they

00:37:40.900 --> 00:37:43.400
came to the conclusion the movie is cursed because

00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:48.019
we dissed Larry Hankin. Wow. For some reason,

00:37:48.260 --> 00:37:52.119
you know, that became the thing, Larry, not the

00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:54.900
other people that they didn't hire. Right. Because

00:37:54.900 --> 00:37:58.480
of this way they screwed me around with. Daniel

00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:01.739
and you know use it my name and the no negotiations

00:38:01.739 --> 00:38:04.000
and I don't know all that stuff that I have no

00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:09.460
idea what You know that that stuff sure Did you

00:38:09.460 --> 00:38:12.539
see let me let me answer the question that you

00:38:12.539 --> 00:38:15.159
raised the point the point is that people have

00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.179
told me that that if you look at my Over of my

00:38:19.179 --> 00:38:23.099
200 rolls. I'm not on screen for a long time

00:38:23.099 --> 00:38:25.949
and and that's on purpose. I I do that. I turn

00:38:25.949 --> 00:38:29.190
down very big role. I turn it down. Not because

00:38:29.190 --> 00:38:31.530
I don't want the money. It's because I have very

00:38:31.530 --> 00:38:35.250
serious ADHD and dyslexia. So it takes me a very

00:38:35.250 --> 00:38:38.909
long time to memorize lines. So if I see that

00:38:38.909 --> 00:38:40.989
the amount of time it would take me to learn

00:38:40.989 --> 00:38:46.309
the lines is more than the ramp up time to get

00:38:46.309 --> 00:38:49.570
to actually to shoot. Right. Because there is

00:38:49.570 --> 00:38:53.030
a negotiation thing with me and my old agents.

00:38:53.829 --> 00:38:57.409
that said that, you know, you can phone in if

00:38:57.409 --> 00:38:59.469
you're a big star, not me, but a big star, a

00:38:59.469 --> 00:39:01.809
big star. You can phone in and say, you know,

00:39:01.989 --> 00:39:04.190
Larry needs a limiter to be picked up. He needs

00:39:04.190 --> 00:39:07.670
to be driven to the set. He needs a cup of tea

00:39:07.670 --> 00:39:10.429
when he gets there. You can say all that if you're,

00:39:10.449 --> 00:39:15.190
you know, like, you know, Tom Hanks, you know,

00:39:15.230 --> 00:39:17.150
you can say, I need this, I want this, I want,

00:39:17.230 --> 00:39:20.489
and they'll give it to you. You know, okay. So,

00:39:22.269 --> 00:39:26.090
I wanted to know why they were offering me all

00:39:26.090 --> 00:39:28.389
this when I'm always getting like three lines

00:39:28.389 --> 00:39:31.909
and they were giving me all this stuff. So I

00:39:31.909 --> 00:39:39.289
learned about that, but the lag time, I didn't

00:39:39.289 --> 00:39:42.409
have to call in and say send me the script first

00:39:42.409 --> 00:39:47.130
for three lines. But generally, when I can do

00:39:47.130 --> 00:39:50.809
what stars do, I can say Larry needs the script.

00:39:52.369 --> 00:39:54.650
Now, you know, that's like something Tom Hanks

00:39:54.650 --> 00:39:58.050
would say. But because of my dyslexia, I can,

00:39:58.409 --> 00:40:00.269
I make that demand. I mean, they don't have to

00:40:00.269 --> 00:40:03.250
meet it when I didn't get somebody else. But

00:40:03.250 --> 00:40:06.909
with Tom Hanks, no, you meet it. So I said, I

00:40:06.909 --> 00:40:10.090
need my script early. Now, I didn't for the three

00:40:10.090 --> 00:40:14.130
lines. But sometimes I will see that the time

00:40:14.130 --> 00:40:17.449
I need to memorize what they're giving me, there's

00:40:17.449 --> 00:40:21.300
no way they can give me that early. Yeah. Two

00:40:21.300 --> 00:40:24.300
weeks, three weeks, four weeks. But once you

00:40:24.300 --> 00:40:26.960
get to four weeks, I'll need four weeks to memorize

00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:30.099
like a lead role or something like that. Gotcha.

00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:33.420
That's just too much time. The script isn't ready

00:40:33.420 --> 00:40:36.119
maybe four weeks before they start to shoot.

00:40:36.539 --> 00:40:39.900
Yeah. So can't promise that. So I have to turn

00:40:39.900 --> 00:40:42.400
it down. And I do it, you know, I mean, like,

00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:47.639
no, there's no gun to my head. I could, but when

00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:51.719
I, when the parts started to get too big where

00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:57.059
I saw the lag time, the ramp time, it's too long.

00:40:57.219 --> 00:40:59.559
I'm going to have to turn it down. So I turned

00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:06.739
it down. But that's like a coming to that point.

00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:08.980
In other words, the parts were getting bigger

00:41:08.980 --> 00:41:11.960
and bigger as I got better and better and more

00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:15.400
known. Until finally I got to a part big enough

00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:18.539
where I saw, wow, the lag time is not going to

00:41:18.539 --> 00:41:23.090
be enough. So I turned it down. And then it became

00:41:23.090 --> 00:41:27.190
a habit. Do I have the leg time or don't I? I

00:41:27.190 --> 00:41:30.550
do? Okay, I'll do the part. I don't. Now a lot

00:41:30.550 --> 00:41:37.489
of actors, a lot of actors have ADHD or dyslexia.

00:41:38.010 --> 00:41:40.130
But they don't have it bad enough where they

00:41:40.130 --> 00:41:44.929
could turn, they just get the part sooner than

00:41:44.929 --> 00:41:47.829
everybody else. But they don't have it bad enough

00:41:47.829 --> 00:41:52.579
dyslexia. that they can't meet, you know, the

00:41:52.579 --> 00:41:57.699
lag time. But I'm really, I got it bad. But I

00:41:57.699 --> 00:42:00.159
mean, there's work around. I've never been fired.

00:42:00.699 --> 00:42:05.119
But I saw in Breaking Bad when I did the movie.

00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:12.360
Yeah, I had to walk around the car. And I thought

00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.280
I didn't need the lag time. So I didn't tell

00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:17.699
him anything. I just got it when everybody else

00:42:17.699 --> 00:42:21.500
got my part. And it was just a walk around. But

00:42:21.500 --> 00:42:24.599
it was right on the cusp of, can I memorize it

00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:28.539
in time or not? And when I got there on the set

00:42:28.539 --> 00:42:33.559
filming, I started to go up on my lines. And

00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:38.960
Vince Gilligan sensed that something was wrong.

00:42:39.300 --> 00:42:42.760
He's not, you know, my memory was going there.

00:42:43.179 --> 00:42:46.500
Right. But he said, OK, let's just take 10 minutes,

00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:49.800
Larry. you know, just step aside, get your lines

00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.739
down, right? Which I did. And he goes, okay,

00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:55.239
you got it? I go, yeah. He said, okay, come on.

00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:58.019
And we did it. And it was fine. So that was 10

00:42:58.019 --> 00:43:01.380
minutes substituting time. But it was a signal

00:43:01.380 --> 00:43:05.219
to me that, okay, this is the length of this.

00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:07.699
I see where I have to start turning down roles

00:43:07.699 --> 00:43:11.079
if I can. So that that was that. And so I just

00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:15.179
decided to get out. Yeah. You know, I just so

00:43:15.179 --> 00:43:17.800
I stopped. Well, I didn't I didn't retire. I

00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:22.780
just got out for about I think that was in in

00:43:22.780 --> 00:43:28.980
2012 or 2013 I think I don't know 2012 so I just

00:43:28.980 --> 00:43:31.960
stepped aside and I told my agents I'm gonna

00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:35.280
take some time off a couple of years No more

00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:37.039
auditions during that time is what you're saying.

00:43:37.179 --> 00:43:41.360
Yeah, no nothing. I just like hands off I'm out

00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:46.559
and then and then doing that while I'm out My

00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:52.400
agents retired. I didn't have an agent. I thought,

00:43:52.739 --> 00:43:55.639
oh man, you know, to get an agent is just really

00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:58.760
worse than memorizing lines. I didn't want to

00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:01.440
do it. So now I just work for friends. I mean,

00:44:01.500 --> 00:44:04.260
if you call me, you know, I'll go, yeah, okay.

00:44:04.860 --> 00:44:07.460
But I don't do it through agents or anything.

00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:11.059
I don't have work. I'm a writer now. There you

00:44:11.059 --> 00:44:14.199
go. But to get an agent now in Hollywood, I don't

00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:16.280
think you would have much issue. It wouldn't

00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:17.920
be like when you were first looking for agents,

00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:21.960
you got a body of work that's ginormous. Yeah,

00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:24.340
but I don't want to go through. Now that I'm

00:44:24.340 --> 00:44:26.980
away and I see I got time to myself and I don't

00:44:26.980 --> 00:44:31.179
have this sweat, the flop sweats. Can I memorize

00:44:31.179 --> 00:44:34.380
this in time? Yeah. I don't have all that. I've

00:44:34.380 --> 00:44:38.260
not had it for years. And here's the bottom line,

00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:40.380
which I've never ever mentioned. So I'll tell

00:44:40.380 --> 00:44:43.840
you guys, because we're at that point, is I never

00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:47.119
wanted to be an actor and I still don't. I can

00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:50.679
do it. And it turns out I can do it very well.

00:44:50.900 --> 00:44:54.119
But I don't have a fire in the belly. I mean,

00:44:54.440 --> 00:45:02.159
I don't want to own a restaurant or I don't want

00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:05.000
to be in finance. and I don't want to be an actor.

00:45:05.380 --> 00:45:07.820
I mean, it's not that I hate it. Yeah. It just

00:45:07.820 --> 00:45:11.280
never occurred to me in my life to be an actor.

00:45:11.739 --> 00:45:14.239
That wasn't on my agenda. I wanted to be a stand

00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:17.480
-up comedian. I wanted to be a clown. I wanted

00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:21.340
to do nothing. I wanted to just hang out. You

00:45:21.340 --> 00:45:23.380
know, all those things, you know, occurred to

00:45:23.380 --> 00:45:24.960
me. But, you know, well, I don't know how to

00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:27.219
do it. What's the process? I mean, I don't think

00:45:27.219 --> 00:45:29.659
so. You know, my father didn't want. And then

00:45:29.659 --> 00:45:32.809
when I brought up, you know, show business at

00:45:32.809 --> 00:45:35.909
all because I was funny. I was a funny guy in

00:45:35.909 --> 00:45:39.130
public school and high school and college. Yeah,

00:45:39.150 --> 00:45:43.289
just funny, you know. Yeah. So it did occur to

00:45:43.289 --> 00:45:45.869
people. Yeah, why don't you be, you know, an

00:45:45.869 --> 00:45:49.909
actor? You know, be a funny actor. Yeah, I never,

00:45:50.130 --> 00:45:54.190
I don't know. So when I dropped out, it never

00:45:54.190 --> 00:45:57.550
occurred to me to drop back in. Yeah, I was just

00:45:57.550 --> 00:46:00.650
like back in high school or college. You know,

00:46:00.849 --> 00:46:03.730
I'm back at the beginning. I was a stand -up

00:46:03.730 --> 00:46:07.349
comedian. I did love that. I opened for Woody

00:46:07.349 --> 00:46:10.309
Allen, and I was pretty good. I opened for Woody

00:46:10.309 --> 00:46:13.409
Allen. Excuse me? You were doing it back in the

00:46:13.409 --> 00:46:15.730
day, like Lenny Bruce times and stuff. Yeah,

00:46:15.730 --> 00:46:17.510
I used to go to see Lenny Bruce. I mean, he was

00:46:17.510 --> 00:46:20.369
my man. He was my go -to man. I mean, I just

00:46:20.369 --> 00:46:26.329
opened for Woody because his manager discovered

00:46:26.329 --> 00:46:28.610
me. You know, I was doing coffee house stand

00:46:28.610 --> 00:46:32.170
-up. I loved it. Have you ever thought about

00:46:32.170 --> 00:46:35.630
getting back into that, Larry? Yes, that's my

00:46:35.630 --> 00:46:38.590
next move, after I finish this book and get it

00:46:38.590 --> 00:46:42.329
out. I'm writing a one -man show. I used to do

00:46:42.329 --> 00:46:48.429
one -man shows when I first started acting, because

00:46:48.429 --> 00:46:51.349
I had the time. I wasn't doing acting that much,

00:46:51.489 --> 00:46:53.949
you know, your first starting. So you do an audition

00:46:53.949 --> 00:46:56.329
here and audition there. So I had like days and

00:46:56.329 --> 00:46:59.699
sometimes weeks where nothing was going on. I

00:46:59.699 --> 00:47:01.340
had an agent, but you know, blah, blah, blah.

00:47:01.739 --> 00:47:04.579
Yeah. So I would write little one -man shows

00:47:04.579 --> 00:47:06.400
for myself and I do it in these little black

00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:09.780
box theaters. There's a lot that's starting up

00:47:09.780 --> 00:47:12.960
again now. I got one here, the fanatic salon.

00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:15.860
So I'm going to start working there. Once you

00:47:15.860 --> 00:47:18.260
get that fleshed out, Larry, you should really

00:47:18.260 --> 00:47:20.960
take a trip down to Austin, Texas and go to the

00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:24.460
comedy mothership. Joe Rogan owns it. I'm sure

00:47:24.460 --> 00:47:27.000
he knows who Larry Hanken is. Let him know that

00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:29.019
you got this one -man show. I guarantee he'll

00:47:29.019 --> 00:47:31.579
get you in there and you'll be back with like

00:47:31.579 --> 00:47:33.920
a big comedy scene there. It's a real big scene

00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:37.000
over there. Really? Oh, and I think he welcomed

00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:39.559
you with open arms, dude. I don't know, man.

00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:44.139
I mean, I don't I don't dig Joe Rodolo's point

00:47:44.139 --> 00:47:48.219
of view. That's Joe Rogan. But well, yeah. Joe

00:47:48.219 --> 00:47:50.719
Rogan. He's all he's all over the map. Who did

00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:57.989
I say? Joe who? Joe Rottolo. Yeah, Joe, Joe.

00:47:58.730 --> 00:48:04.409
Yeah, whatever is named. And I don't I really

00:48:04.409 --> 00:48:07.550
don't like Texas for the same reason. The heat.

00:48:08.250 --> 00:48:11.590
Well, yeah. Yeah, the heat. I think if you were

00:48:11.590 --> 00:48:15.429
to have a chat with Joe Rogan, you would you

00:48:15.429 --> 00:48:19.280
wouldn't think I mean, I when I was I was doing

00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:22.340
Lenny Bruce material. I mean, cops would pull

00:48:22.340 --> 00:48:24.539
me off the stage. I mean, I had people coming

00:48:24.539 --> 00:48:27.820
at me with beer bottles. Isn't that crazy? Yeah.

00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:31.219
Amazing. We were saying, hey, they cancel you

00:48:31.219 --> 00:48:33.440
and like, don't put your videos up. Back then,

00:48:33.780 --> 00:48:35.760
you're almost getting arrested for saying what

00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:39.360
you wanted to say on stage. Yeah, I mean, well,

00:48:39.539 --> 00:48:42.320
cops either pulled me off the stage. I've had...

00:48:42.250 --> 00:48:45.150
20 policemen marked and when I was doing arena

00:48:45.150 --> 00:48:47.150
show for the Love and Spoonful, I was opening

00:48:47.150 --> 00:48:51.650
for rock bands back in the 60s and 70s. So yeah,

00:48:51.789 --> 00:48:53.530
when I was opening for the Love and Spoonful,

00:48:53.690 --> 00:48:59.829
20 policemen marched onto the stage from the

00:48:59.829 --> 00:49:03.329
back of the room, marched down the aisles up

00:49:03.329 --> 00:49:06.650
onto the stage and put a hand on my shoulder

00:49:06.650 --> 00:49:09.150
very gently. I don't think they actually understood

00:49:09.150 --> 00:49:11.989
why they were pulling me off the stage. The dean

00:49:11.989 --> 00:49:15.769
of the college was a Washington University in,

00:49:15.889 --> 00:49:19.530
I don't know, Alabama or I don't know, one of

00:49:19.530 --> 00:49:22.570
these southern states. The dean of the college

00:49:22.570 --> 00:49:24.630
called the police because they didn't like me

00:49:24.630 --> 00:49:30.329
saying fuck on stage stuff. So, you know, and

00:49:30.329 --> 00:49:34.820
I was kind of edgy. So they marched up and told

00:49:34.820 --> 00:49:38.260
me because they were standing in the back and

00:49:38.260 --> 00:49:43.360
the audience Said do the clean stuff The audience

00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:47.340
I mean is a college kids and they and they didn't

00:49:47.340 --> 00:49:49.800
want me to curse on stage. It was you know, Texas

00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:53.079
Where was it? I don't know. It was a South. I

00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:56.079
don't know who's Texas or not No, that was another

00:49:56.079 --> 00:50:00.239
thing. I oh I've had a wonderful life man. I

00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:03.420
do know that this is a real it's official the

00:50:03.420 --> 00:50:09.840
state of Texas has officially prohibited me from

00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:13.860
entering the state. That's real. That's down.

00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:17.780
That's a law. That's legal. Wow. When was this?

00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:24.980
This was in the 70s when they kidnapped the state

00:50:24.980 --> 00:50:31.239
of Texas kidnapped my girlfriend. The cops busted

00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:36.030
her. for going to Texas with a group and taking

00:50:36.030 --> 00:50:38.969
acid. And she was walking on the street at night

00:50:38.969 --> 00:50:44.449
in a neighborhood, Dallas, I think, walking around

00:50:44.449 --> 00:50:47.530
at late at night barefoot, like a hippie, you

00:50:47.530 --> 00:50:50.789
know, this was in the early 70s. Barefoot just

00:50:50.789 --> 00:50:56.809
with a t -shirt and just jeans. Barefoot, long

00:50:56.809 --> 00:51:00.710
hair, you know, beads. walking in a Dallas neighborhood

00:51:00.710 --> 00:51:03.570
and the cops pulled her over. They were going

00:51:03.570 --> 00:51:07.469
to bust her for being a hippie. Just there, that

00:51:07.469 --> 00:51:10.789
was an excuse. She didn't have any ID or anything.

00:51:11.230 --> 00:51:13.750
She was on acid. She just walked out of the house

00:51:13.750 --> 00:51:16.510
that they were staying at and decided to walk

00:51:16.510 --> 00:51:18.690
around the neighborhood. And the cops pulled

00:51:18.690 --> 00:51:20.730
her over. She didn't have any ID, so they busted

00:51:20.730 --> 00:51:24.309
her. So she bit one of the policemen. So they

00:51:24.309 --> 00:51:26.429
beat her up and put her in an insane asylum.

00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:30.579
And I had to go get her from California to the

00:51:30.579 --> 00:51:34.539
insane asylum. A real asylum man. I mean, I'm

00:51:34.539 --> 00:51:38.619
not talking movie stuff. This was heavy duty.

00:51:38.980 --> 00:51:46.059
It was bad. It was bad. It was great. So when

00:51:46.059 --> 00:51:54.699
I got there, yeah, I had a... It was a big deal.

00:51:55.480 --> 00:52:00.780
And so when I got her, finally, I was a lawyer

00:52:00.780 --> 00:52:04.320
and, oh man, it was just a big huge thing. But

00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:13.519
the lawyer came to me at the asylum, at the dean

00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:15.739
of the asylum, I don't know what to call him,

00:52:15.940 --> 00:52:18.960
the boss in his office. We were in the office

00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:22.059
signing papers so they could release her to my

00:52:22.059 --> 00:52:26.619
custody. to get her out of Texas. They said,

00:52:26.679 --> 00:52:29.420
we will release her to your custody, Mr. Hanken,

00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:33.539
if you promise to get her out within 24 hours.

00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:36.639
If either of you, and this was the lawyer now

00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:39.820
reading this to me, who was a document saying,

00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:44.840
I had to get her out of the state of Texas within

00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:49.840
24 hours. If either of us were found to be within

00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:54.219
the state of Texas, After 24 hours, we will both

00:52:54.219 --> 00:53:03.519
be arrested as not being wanted in Texas. I don't

00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:07.500
know what the legal term was, but undesirables.

00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:12.900
Wow. We will be arrested as undesirables. You

00:53:12.900 --> 00:53:16.719
were the first deplorable. Yes, I was the first.

00:53:17.699 --> 00:53:19.800
And my girlfriend were the first deplorable.

00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:22.820
So we had it. So I took her back to the house

00:53:22.820 --> 00:53:25.539
and they were beating her up, man, because she

00:53:25.539 --> 00:53:28.980
had beaten the police. So she was black and blue.

00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:34.449
And they had drugged her and taken blood samples,

00:53:34.909 --> 00:53:38.070
and they treated her really bad because she fought.

00:53:38.409 --> 00:53:43.849
I mean, she was, in fact, a 60s hippie who was

00:53:43.849 --> 00:53:46.409
against, you know, the government. Sure. You

00:53:46.409 --> 00:53:51.869
know, she was one of the hippies. Yeah. So she

00:53:51.869 --> 00:53:55.469
had that attitude, you know, undrugged and on

00:53:55.469 --> 00:54:00.230
acid. Yeah. So when she came down finally for

00:54:00.230 --> 00:54:03.110
the acid and she was in an insane asylum locked

00:54:03.110 --> 00:54:07.989
up I saw where they had her was awful man Together

00:54:07.989 --> 00:54:09.849
they probably would have kept her forever and

00:54:09.849 --> 00:54:13.110
just sedated and all that stuff now they said

00:54:13.110 --> 00:54:18.090
that The threat was they were gonna because I

00:54:18.090 --> 00:54:20.889
came there and I had a chip on my shoulder too

00:54:20.889 --> 00:54:23.010
like hey man Who the fuck do you people think

00:54:23.010 --> 00:54:25.659
you are? You know I I did the whole thing. I

00:54:25.659 --> 00:54:28.099
was just wrong. Totally wrong. I was out of line.

00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:32.179
I mean, I was in Texas. I was in an insane asylum,

00:54:32.980 --> 00:54:36.860
in an insane asylum, you know, within their grounds.

00:54:37.260 --> 00:54:39.980
And I'm mouthing off to them about, you know,

00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:43.639
who do you think you people are? And they're

00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:46.159
saying, Mr. Hankin, if you don't shut up, we're

00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:48.559
going to commit you. We can do that. We can keep

00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:52.820
you for three days. And it's totally legal. and

00:54:52.820 --> 00:54:55.920
a lawyer out who I had with me, he's saying,

00:54:56.219 --> 00:54:58.420
shut up, shut up. He's telling me, keep quiet.

00:54:58.579 --> 00:55:01.880
Don't do this, Kerry. And he promised his lawyer

00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:04.320
they can do that. Well, I turned to my lawyer

00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:08.420
and I said, the lawyer. I said, you know, can

00:55:08.420 --> 00:55:09.860
they do that? They said, we're going to commit

00:55:09.860 --> 00:55:12.159
you for three days if you don't shut up. Oh,

00:55:12.199 --> 00:55:14.179
yeah. And I turned to him and I said, can they

00:55:14.179 --> 00:55:17.260
do that? And they said, yes, but I'm here to

00:55:17.260 --> 00:55:19.579
get your girlfriend out. And if they get you

00:55:19.579 --> 00:55:22.079
in, I can't do that. That I can only do one of

00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:25.599
you. Wow. I pulled a lot of strings to get her

00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:29.320
out of here. Yeah. Oh, if you you're in, I pulled

00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:32.260
all the strings. I can, man. Yeah. So shut the

00:55:32.260 --> 00:55:36.360
fuck up. I mean, say fuck. But when he said shut

00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:40.900
up. So I did. So that's what I was going through.

00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:46.449
I mean, Texas and and Joe. Whoever Joe Rogan,

00:55:47.030 --> 00:55:51.250
you know, you just and that's what comes up You

00:55:51.250 --> 00:55:54.630
mentioned those two things and and I just spewed

00:55:54.630 --> 00:55:56.730
out what came up what you mentioned their names

00:55:56.730 --> 00:55:59.469
Well, that's totally intense man. I mean they're

00:55:59.469 --> 00:56:02.150
really like throwing the book at you there like

00:56:02.150 --> 00:56:07.530
yes, yes, yeah So I flew her, you know, we flew

00:56:07.530 --> 00:56:12.369
back to California, but she was done man I mean

00:56:12.369 --> 00:56:16.190
the things that you know She couldn't talk and

00:56:16.190 --> 00:56:19.449
I was taking care of her daughter a little four

00:56:19.449 --> 00:56:22.909
year old So all she kept on saying is I want

00:56:22.909 --> 00:56:25.289
to I want to see my daughter. I want to see my

00:56:25.289 --> 00:56:28.070
daughter I mean she had that much but she was

00:56:28.070 --> 00:56:32.530
out of it. She was out of it for Two two days

00:56:32.530 --> 00:56:34.610
when I finally got her back to California and

00:56:34.610 --> 00:56:36.630
her daughter. I think her daughter brought her

00:56:36.630 --> 00:56:41.309
back, you know But but then she disappeared she

00:56:41.309 --> 00:56:45.099
disappeared a week later The same thing I mean

00:56:45.099 --> 00:56:49.679
that now she was really I don't know what they

00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:54.980
did to her or was the drugs or the the experience

00:56:54.980 --> 00:57:00.820
or whatever But she was not the same You know,

00:57:00.820 --> 00:57:03.659
maybe she was going there and we didn't know

00:57:03.659 --> 00:57:06.300
it and then when she you know went on the trip

00:57:06.300 --> 00:57:10.960
Yeah, the people it made it come out more. Yeah

00:57:11.260 --> 00:57:13.340
Maybe the asylum had nothing to do with it. I

00:57:13.340 --> 00:57:18.179
don't know. But, uh, yeah, she was, she, uh,

00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:20.880
her parents had to come and get her. It's just

00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:23.159
the timing is suspect because she was in the

00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:25.440
insane asylum, but, uh, you made a good point

00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:27.460
with that. Some psychedelics people are, some

00:57:27.460 --> 00:57:30.000
people are not meant to do. Maybe. Yeah. That

00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:32.539
isn't, but I think for a lot of people, they're

00:57:32.539 --> 00:57:35.139
good and therapeutic, but some people you got

00:57:35.139 --> 00:57:38.019
to kind of, you know, know, I got a question

00:57:38.019 --> 00:57:41.289
for you, Larry. Yeah. I just gotta say years

00:57:41.289 --> 00:57:44.250
later, she turned out okay. Oh cool. It took

00:57:44.250 --> 00:57:46.869
years, but she was fine. Okay, go ahead. It was

00:57:46.869 --> 00:57:48.750
Catherine O 'Hara. She started with you in Home

00:57:48.750 --> 00:57:55.530
Alone after that, right? Yeah. Yeah. But yeah,

00:57:55.590 --> 00:57:59.369
so I think that with that, you seem like a proponent

00:57:59.369 --> 00:58:02.750
of the 60s and 70s. Was it a freer time back

00:58:02.750 --> 00:58:06.050
then? Was it? No, it was just the same as today.

00:58:06.829 --> 00:58:13.070
It was just... You know, this is Trump on steroids

00:58:13.070 --> 00:58:16.969
now. But it was, you know, you can't say fuck

00:58:16.969 --> 00:58:19.610
on stage. I was busted by the police. People

00:58:19.610 --> 00:58:22.409
coming at me with beer bottles. They kidnapped

00:58:22.409 --> 00:58:24.590
my girlfriend, took her and put her in an insane

00:58:24.590 --> 00:58:27.869
asylum. I mean, come on, man. That was the 60s.

00:58:28.090 --> 00:58:31.510
That was like the late 60s. I mean, plus Kent,

00:58:31.809 --> 00:58:35.510
they shot four students at Kent University. Come

00:58:35.510 --> 00:58:38.869
on. I mean, that's, I'm seeing that now. Yeah.

00:58:39.250 --> 00:58:42.449
And I'm seeing it coming now. Right. I've been

00:58:42.449 --> 00:58:46.110
through it. This is a repeat. This is streaming

00:58:46.110 --> 00:58:50.809
point two. Not learning from our past. Yeah.

00:58:51.190 --> 00:58:52.969
I mean, it's going to get worse. You know, that

00:58:52.969 --> 00:58:57.469
was just practice and Trump's first term. Talk

00:58:57.469 --> 00:59:00.329
about the vision from, you know, people don't

00:59:00.329 --> 00:59:03.429
look at Trump's policies or how he ran up. They

00:59:03.429 --> 00:59:05.750
just look at the way the country was divided.

00:59:06.170 --> 00:59:09.690
At the time the political climate was just insane

00:59:09.690 --> 00:59:12.789
from the left and the right. I've never You know,

00:59:12.789 --> 00:59:15.349
not everything is so black and white. I'm not

00:59:15.349 --> 00:59:18.710
all right. I'm not all left I'm kind of as the

00:59:18.710 --> 00:59:22.489
situation happens, but I guess during his first

00:59:22.489 --> 00:59:25.650
four years it was like real polarizing for the

00:59:25.650 --> 00:59:31.949
left to See some my point is is is there's crazy

00:59:31.949 --> 00:59:34.250
crazy right wingers out there like I don't even

00:59:34.250 --> 00:59:36.420
think Trump is on that boat. Like, there's some

00:59:36.420 --> 00:59:39.719
people so far, right, that it's like, you know,

00:59:40.099 --> 00:59:42.559
if they get some of his base to go along with

00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:44.960
what they're thinking, it could be a scary, scary

00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:48.780
time because people are looking for change now.

00:59:48.920 --> 00:59:51.219
They're looking for something. They're scared.

00:59:51.699 --> 00:59:53.360
You're not looking for anything. They're scared.

00:59:53.539 --> 00:59:56.340
They're looking for surcease. They're scared.

00:59:56.659 --> 00:59:59.420
People are scared. I was talking to a group of

00:59:59.420 --> 01:00:03.880
right -wingers yesterday. And I just had a laugh,

01:00:04.059 --> 01:00:09.039
man. You can't talk to them. You can't, you know,

01:00:09.219 --> 01:00:13.139
I mean, another guy. But it's the same on our

01:00:13.139 --> 01:00:15.699
side. I was sitting in an outdoor restaurant.

01:00:16.300 --> 01:00:20.719
There was three of them, three Trumpers. And

01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:24.699
I guess talking very loud, it was me against

01:00:24.699 --> 01:00:27.239
the three, but I was just laughing because they

01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:30.360
were so entrenched that I saw there was nothing

01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:34.179
I could say. Yeah, I mean there's nothing there's

01:00:34.179 --> 01:00:37.199
no argument that I could put out because they

01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:40.000
just poo poo any argument they poo poo the truth

01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:43.880
and others if you're telling them the truth Then

01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:50.199
that to them is hearsay. Yeah truth is hearsay

01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:56.380
So I saw another guy about four tables away looking

01:00:56.380 --> 01:00:59.500
at me and saying you know, and rapping and giving

01:00:59.500 --> 01:01:01.400
me the okay sign, like, you're right, you're

01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:04.219
right, I'm with you. And then he started to get

01:01:04.219 --> 01:01:07.780
up and come over to me to help defend me against

01:01:07.780 --> 01:01:10.860
these three guys. But I didn't want to be defended.

01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:14.619
I wasn't trying to defend myself. I was instigating

01:01:14.619 --> 01:01:18.599
them to see where their heads were at. I wasn't

01:01:18.599 --> 01:01:21.960
defending my side. I was just saying, you know,

01:01:22.179 --> 01:01:25.159
well, tell me more about, you know, and so when

01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:28.969
he came over, he started to defend with me. And

01:01:28.969 --> 01:01:31.309
I said, get out of here, man. You don't have

01:01:31.309 --> 01:01:33.690
no idea what you're talking about. Right. And

01:01:33.690 --> 01:01:36.969
he was on my side. Yeah. I was telling him, you

01:01:36.969 --> 01:01:39.610
have no idea what I was doing or what was going

01:01:39.610 --> 01:01:44.610
on. He was just being, you know, like, I don't

01:01:44.610 --> 01:01:47.730
know what it's called. You were on the left and

01:01:47.730 --> 01:01:50.550
he was like, let me come to his rescue. Yeah,

01:01:50.590 --> 01:01:53.250
but he wasn't coming to my rescue. He was just

01:01:53.250 --> 01:01:59.010
reacting. Right. He was he was reacting not not

01:01:59.010 --> 01:02:01.409
thinking. Larry, here's the one I want to say.

01:02:01.710 --> 01:02:04.750
I think that I think that we are so polarized

01:02:04.750 --> 01:02:07.829
left and right. It's just crazy. I feel there's

01:02:07.829 --> 01:02:10.590
so many more of us that are in the middle. And

01:02:10.590 --> 01:02:13.409
if we had these types of conversations, these

01:02:13.409 --> 01:02:16.369
long form conversations, a lot more stuff could

01:02:16.369 --> 01:02:19.070
be discussed. A lot more stuff could be exposed.

01:02:19.349 --> 01:02:21.949
Yeah. I think we realized we're all very, very

01:02:21.949 --> 01:02:24.969
similar. But these politics got us thinking like

01:02:24.969 --> 01:02:27.710
we're so divided. And really we should just be

01:02:27.710 --> 01:02:31.090
talking about everything is politics now yeah

01:02:31.090 --> 01:02:36.050
everything i mean glazed donuts i could you know

01:02:36.050 --> 01:02:39.210
i i could go back to that time and do it all

01:02:39.210 --> 01:02:43.050
over again but now bring trump into it and i

01:02:43.050 --> 01:02:47.449
could do it you know what i mean is 300 donuts

01:02:47.929 --> 01:02:49.750
You know, that's a waste of money. Like, you

01:02:49.750 --> 01:02:52.130
know, blah, blah, blah, government. Boom, boom,

01:02:52.329 --> 01:02:55.090
you know. Was President Kennedy hated as much

01:02:55.090 --> 01:02:56.969
as President Trump? Do you remember? Nothing

01:02:56.969 --> 01:02:59.510
to do with anything. You know, this has nothing

01:02:59.510 --> 01:03:01.630
to do with Trump. It's just people are scared.

01:03:01.909 --> 01:03:03.829
People are scared then. People are scared now.

01:03:04.110 --> 01:03:06.570
It has nothing to do with person. It has nothing

01:03:06.570 --> 01:03:12.590
to do with reality. Kennedy, Trump, Biden, politics,

01:03:13.670 --> 01:03:20.110
war, peace, land. mercury, you know, forests,

01:03:20.889 --> 01:03:25.389
global warming. It's just people are scared.

01:03:26.050 --> 01:03:32.030
You can hop on any train and you can argue. It's

01:03:32.030 --> 01:03:33.730
just people are scared and they don't know what

01:03:33.730 --> 01:03:36.349
to talk about or how to defend it because it's

01:03:36.349 --> 01:03:43.530
in the air. It's just a weird time that we're

01:03:43.530 --> 01:03:46.579
going to have to either get through or not. I

01:03:46.579 --> 01:03:51.039
mean, this train has left the station. Wherever

01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:53.480
we're going, it's going there, and there's no

01:03:53.480 --> 01:03:57.340
stopping it. We'll either stop it because it's

01:03:57.340 --> 01:03:59.719
in the cards already, or we won't stop it because

01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:02.699
it's in the cards already. But these arguments

01:04:02.699 --> 01:04:05.820
are stupid, man. I mean, I call them aprons.

01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:12.760
You see these anthropological, what was it like

01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:17.639
in caveman times? Homo erectus and chromagnin.

01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:21.539
You said Homo and erectus. I love it. Yeah. Homo

01:04:21.539 --> 01:04:24.000
erectus. Yeah, that's us. No, no, we're Homo

01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:30.380
sapiens. Yeah. But, but yeah. But back then,

01:04:31.059 --> 01:04:35.400
that's what my book is about. I don't, I, it's

01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:39.820
about homelessness. But it's not, but I just

01:04:39.820 --> 01:04:44.400
take one guy. I lived in my car for a year. So

01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:48.960
I know about that. So I take one guy and I follow

01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:57.239
him for one year. Oh, wow. Homeless. But it has

01:04:57.239 --> 01:05:00.400
nothing to do really with homelessness. What

01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:04.059
my point of the book is, I don't say, I don't

01:05:04.059 --> 01:05:07.659
call people, I mentioned people maybe once or

01:05:07.659 --> 01:05:10.760
twice, but I don't say people. I don't say human

01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:18.329
beings. I say homo sapiens Whenever I refer to

01:05:18.329 --> 01:05:22.309
anybody in a group more than more than two people.

01:05:22.429 --> 01:05:26.530
Yeah, I See homo sapiens because that's all we

01:05:26.530 --> 01:05:31.030
are right. I mean and so this the global warming

01:05:31.030 --> 01:05:36.789
is that this this planet shouting yeah at homo

01:05:36.789 --> 01:05:41.530
sapiens Hey, man, you're all homo sapiens, right?

01:05:41.630 --> 01:05:44.789
You're fucking with me Right. And I'm going to

01:05:44.789 --> 01:05:48.010
fuck you 10 times worse. You all breathe the

01:05:48.010 --> 01:05:51.010
same air. You breathe the same air that you're

01:05:51.010 --> 01:05:53.570
poisoning. You drink the same water that you're

01:05:53.570 --> 01:05:57.570
poisoning. You're growing crops in the same soil

01:05:57.570 --> 01:06:00.030
you're poisoning. And you're fucking with the

01:06:00.030 --> 01:06:04.710
thermostat, which is, you know, that's, that's

01:06:04.710 --> 01:06:08.409
ape stuff, man. You know, in the old days, there

01:06:08.409 --> 01:06:12.019
were these ape raids. where gorillas and apes

01:06:12.019 --> 01:06:15.219
would, you know, charge other ape things. Yeah.

01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:17.280
Well, that's what we're doing. We haven't changed.

01:06:17.519 --> 01:06:20.699
We just have clothes on now. Right. And less

01:06:20.699 --> 01:06:24.260
hair. But these are ape raids. Yeah. You know,

01:06:24.460 --> 01:06:29.519
Israelis, Palestinians, Hamas, Palestine, you

01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:35.739
know, Arabs, Jews, Catholics, the Bible, man.

01:06:36.059 --> 01:06:38.440
It's just a self help book. I mean, don't get

01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:42.599
me started. Harry, now that I got you started,

01:06:42.860 --> 01:06:44.980
our show is coming to an end, so I want you to

01:06:44.980 --> 01:06:47.079
tell the audience where they could find all your

01:06:47.079 --> 01:06:50.460
books. We mentioned TheRealLarryHankin .com for

01:06:50.460 --> 01:06:52.480
artwork and some of his other stuff, but tell

01:06:52.480 --> 01:06:53.800
them where they can catch you on social media.

01:06:56.579 --> 01:07:01.480
Well, TheRealLarryHankin .com, Amazon, probably,

01:07:01.579 --> 01:07:04.760
but they have two books on Amazon. One is a fiction,

01:07:05.019 --> 01:07:08.969
one is a memoir. One is called That Guy. And

01:07:08.969 --> 01:07:11.090
that's a great Christmas present. And the other

01:07:11.090 --> 01:07:15.309
one is just a bunch of stories that I wrote called

01:07:15.309 --> 01:07:20.349
the Lupo's dossier. Yeah. I'm kind of a bad title

01:07:20.349 --> 01:07:23.150
and kind of hard to remember. But a Lupo Lupo

01:07:23.150 --> 01:07:28.110
dossier and that guy. Great stocking stuffer.

01:07:28.190 --> 01:07:30.409
So if you want to go to Amazon, that guy fit

01:07:30.409 --> 01:07:32.630
perfectly in the stocking. It's great. Yeah.

01:07:35.349 --> 01:07:38.840
Fireplace. Larry, we always love having you on.

01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:40.539
We would have went longer. We just had a hard

01:07:40.539 --> 01:07:43.059
out at 210. So that's why we needed to end it

01:07:43.059 --> 01:07:46.460
there. But where are you on Instagram? Is it

01:07:46.460 --> 01:07:49.500
the same thing? I'm not on anything. I when I

01:07:49.500 --> 01:07:52.079
drop out, I drop out. Gotcha. So I'm trying to

01:07:52.079 --> 01:07:55.719
drop in with it with Brooks now. And the art

01:07:55.719 --> 01:07:59.699
that was another chapter back back in the day.

01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:03.340
But they're on on the real Larry Hankin dot com

01:08:03.340 --> 01:08:07.780
or Amazon also. I'm glad you're exploring your

01:08:07.780 --> 01:08:10.619
other creative side, not just, you know, Hollywood

01:08:10.619 --> 01:08:12.239
enacting, but you're doing the books, you're

01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:14.500
doing, or we're doing the painting. You're an

01:08:14.500 --> 01:08:16.359
exciting guy, man. We'll definitely love to have

01:08:16.359 --> 01:08:18.539
you back on. We were just getting into a role,

01:08:18.920 --> 01:08:20.960
but we'll have you on again. And we always leave.

01:08:21.020 --> 01:08:23.319
Okay, cool. Pleasure Larry. Thank you so much.

01:08:23.619 --> 01:08:26.859
Okay. Thank you guys. Bye. Bye bye. Bye bye.

01:08:27.369 --> 01:08:29.329
All right, well ladies and gentlemen, that was

01:08:29.329 --> 01:08:33.850
the one the only Larry hankin We do apologize,

01:08:33.850 --> 01:08:36.750
but Chad and I have a hard outs in about a minute

01:08:36.750 --> 01:08:41.270
So remember hashtag Chad Gracie hates hashtags

01:08:41.270 --> 01:08:47.489
is the key. I love it Follow us at the gracious

01:08:47.489 --> 01:08:50.210
to everywhere on Instagram. It's the underscore

01:08:50.210 --> 01:08:53.470
gracious underscore to everywhere else the gracious

01:08:53.470 --> 01:08:57.810
to Thank you. Oh, wow. There you go. I finally

01:08:57.810 --> 01:09:02.170
came back. Yeah, I see you guys. OK, now I've

01:09:02.170 --> 01:09:06.409
got to get out of here. I love it. OK, Larry.

01:09:06.770 --> 01:09:09.550
The one and only Larry Hanken. It doesn't get

01:09:09.550 --> 01:09:12.489
much better than that. Larry's a great guy. He's

01:09:12.489 --> 01:09:15.890
been in everything under the sun. He was amazing

01:09:15.890 --> 01:09:19.810
as a Kramer on Seinfeld. He was so much we could

01:09:19.810 --> 01:09:21.850
have asked. I wanted to ask about escape from

01:09:21.850 --> 01:09:24.329
Alcatraz. Especially since he started talking

01:09:24.329 --> 01:09:27.689
about his girlfriend in the asylum. So anyway,

01:09:27.890 --> 01:09:29.789
next time. Yes, we'll have him back for sure.

01:09:30.409 --> 01:09:32.630
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you guys so much.

01:09:32.890 --> 01:09:34.310
We are the Gracious Future. Give me a second.

01:09:34.409 --> 01:09:36.329
So I got to end the live stream in a couple of

01:09:36.329 --> 01:09:39.170
places. The Gracious Two. Thank you, everybody.

01:09:39.489 --> 01:09:43.170
Ladies and gentlemen, JD's and a lentelman. And

01:09:43.170 --> 01:09:43.550
there.