The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 015 - Steve Savo

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yeah yeah yeah here we go here we go and then

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once we go live there I gotta click the oh that

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should not be good no okay there we go I think

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we are live, ladies and gentlemen. Hey, hey,

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hey. Hey, hey, hey. Gracious two back again. Episode

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15, ladies and gentlemen. Hey, fitting. All right.

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Sweet. Keep racking them up. Lucky number 15.

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Yes. For those who hear that in the background,

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that's Bobby. He's full of traveling, so he's

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going to mute himself so we don't have to deal

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with that noise. Hopefully he can pull some stuff

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up for us. I don't know if he can. We have a

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awesome guest coming on today. Mr. Steve Savo

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is, I believe how you say the name. Um, he's

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done a bunch of stuff, been a fan alive for a

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long time, a fan of Chad's and, uh, his sons

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are picking up the torch and rolling with it.

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They, uh, they're making movies, producing music

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and stuff. So there's a lot of cool stuff to

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speak to him about. Very cool. Look forward to

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it. What's that? How you doing today? How's life?

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Pretty good. Pretty good. Wrote down a list of

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a couple things I wanted to talk about. Cool.

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Are you hanging in there? Is the world bringing

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you down yet? The world's never bringing me down.

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I'm hanging in. That's what I like to hear. I'm

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nursing my stymie though, but you know, that's

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it. Oh, those are the worst. Dude, they hurt.

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Yeah. Well, mine didn't hurt, but anyways. Oh,

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no. It's on the upside of getting better now.

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It was getting worse. Last night, I think it

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popped. Yeah, that's when it, the, uh, tension

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relieves itself. I've had them where it's like

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my eyes almost swollen shut. I've never had,

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I never had one until about four years ago. Now

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I've had, or three years ago and I've had like

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four of them. What the fuck? Oh my God. Are you

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a feeder or an eater? This is the most disgusting

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thing I've ever heard. It's listening to Howard

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Stern. A feeder is somebody who shits in somebody

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else's mouth and an eater. Oh, yeah, I heard

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that too. What the fuck? I'm neither. Thank you.

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Oh, no. Oh, yeah. Going there early. Oh, shit.

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Stern. Hilarious. But on a serious note, Governor

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Abbott doing his thing, trying to protect America

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one state at a time. Texas. taking big strides

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to stop the stream of illegal immigrants coming

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in. And thank God somebody is doing it because

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we can't rely on our federal government, apparently.

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Apparently not. Definitely not. Got to make federal

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governments trying to import voters. Right. Right.

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And you were telling me something scary about

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Is it Cali or LA specifically? Well, Los Angeles

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specifically, it's something called DACA cops,

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D -A -C -A cops. And if their first class of

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DACA cops are being graduated, I think now, and

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what they basically are is illegal immigrants

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that are now cops in LA are going to be cops.

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Oh, yeah, yeah. So they are here illegally, so

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they've broken the law, but now they are policemen

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supposedly to uphold our laws. and carry a gun.

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So an illegal immigrant can now ask you, with

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no papers, can now ask you for your papers. Sounds

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like a set of rebellions. Good luck. I mean,

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what the fuck? Exactly, exactly. Leftist insanity.

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I mean, it's frigging crazy. It's insane. I mean,

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it seems like they're trying, you know, like

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this is how you would write a story if you wanted,

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you know, your city to fail or your country to

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fail. Like you don't just start letting people

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who are undocumented, not here legally carry

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guns and then question American citizens. It

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just doesn't seem right. And it's insane. It's

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fucking literally insane. And they think, you

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know, like I was telling you earlier, I found

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this guy Kramer says on Instagram and he's, he's

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been going off about it. And, uh, he's like,

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yeah, I think they're going to basically do this

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in all the blue cities. God. Well, let, let them,

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let it be a test in LA because. they'll realize

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real quick how that fails. Because what happens

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when one of these illegal immigrants questions

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an American and then it gets to a point where

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a gun is drawn and he shoots an American citizen

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and he's an illegal immigrant? That's when you

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see riots and uprising in the streets. Uprising,

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it's going to have to get the Supreme Court involved.

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I mean, it's going to be ridiculous. And it's

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just a matter of time before that happens. It

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drives you crazy. Can you imagine you need the

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Supreme Court involved for something that is

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clearly illegal and we already have laws on?

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It's insane. Yes, I mean, it's crazy. I mean,

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maybe it'll go to a federal judge at the lower

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level, but it's like the it's it just baffles

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and boggles the mind that this is something they

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do. Well, I mean, so, you know, the left launches

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this whole defund the police thing. You have

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demoralized police. No one wants to be a police

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officer right now. They're bringing in illegal.

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immigrants to be police officers. It's like,

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I wonder if they're, if they're paying them less

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money, you know what I'm saying? Like, was this

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their way to defund the police by hiring a lesser?

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My God, dude, like you can't make this stuff

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up. Like it just seems so asinine for that to

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be even thought of. Yeah. My goodness. It's completely

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asinine. It's just, like I said, it's left us

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insanity. You know, the other thing I want to

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talk about was the Boston mayor has had a, she

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sent out an email for, and it mistakenly was

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sent out to everyone in her cabinet. Only electives

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of color had their own Christmas party. No whites

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were invited. Wow. That's okay. Yeah. Reverse

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segregation, I guess. Guess what? I mean, it's

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just segregation. That's not even reverse segregation.

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That's allowed now on the left. And what happens,

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what happens if they were to do an all, you know,

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white party or an all. Well, that could never

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fly. I would never fly. You can't do that. Well,

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right. But why is one good and one isn't? I mean,

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it shouldn't be segregated. They're both. They're

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both shitty. Exactly. But not not to left us.

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One is good and one is not. My goodness. I mean,

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you're creating uneven playing fields and that's

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what kind of got us to this place to begin with.

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Right. You know. You know, we don't learn from

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our from our past. I mean, that's the biggest

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takeaway that I've ever heard from any history

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lesson is you need to learn from past mistakes.

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This is why the left destroys history. They don't

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want to learn history. They want to tear down

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all the statues of history. They want to destroy

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history so that they can repeat it. It's fucking

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just insane. But I mean, none of it makes sense.

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I keep saying it's like upside down world clown

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world. It's just like. What the fuck are we living

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through? Right. And when did it become so like

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the Kennedy years, even even the Bill Clinton

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years, like the left was firing on all cylinders

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at that point. It all started with Obama. Yes.

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All this shit started with Obama. Very good.

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The funding, the police, this whole like there's

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this gigantic race problem in America that all

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started with Obama. I want to make it very, very

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clear that I voted for Obama. So did I. In the

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first. Right. In the first Bush election, I voted

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for who is a gore. Yeah, go around. Yeah. Yeah.

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So that so I was literally Democrat at that point.

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Like I said, I'm still a registered Democrat,

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so I'm not talking out of like I grew up completely

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Republicans. I'm not even saying I'm a Republican

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now. I'm literally, you know. the middle of the

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coin person who votes per party. But it just

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seems that the right is making a lot more sense

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nowadays. And the left seems to have an agenda

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to fucking take down this country for some reason.

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I just don't understand it. Yeah. And the left

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use. I mean, the left was always trying to be

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progressive and inclusive and all that stuff.

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But now it's like they're just completely anti

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-American. Right. You're trying literally to

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destroy the country. It's just wild. Yeah, you're

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being inclusive to the point where you're bringing

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biological males to compete against biological

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females. I mean, a line drawn somewhere, you

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know. All of the things that are completely illogical

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and sane just seem to be on that side now. I

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mean, the right has its own problems. They got

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fucking radical, racist, fucking disgusting idiots.

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You have fucked up politicians on the right.

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None of the party is perfect, obviously, but

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all the crazy like I just said, crazy illogical

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shit that they want to push on you is coming

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from that side. And then they're like, biology,

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they're, we follow science. It's like, no, you

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don't, not with the biological men that are now

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call themselves women. And you are like, no,

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they're women. It's like, throwing science out

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the window on that. But like, if you're anti

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-vax, you're not, you're anti -science. It's

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like, I just don't inject shit into my body that

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they're making me inject into my body. That means

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I'm anti -science. Yeah. And then if you do follow

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the science and you're seeing people that are

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getting all these heart problems and strokes

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and all this stuff, I mean, there's science there

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that shows shit is not going the way it should

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with some stuff. Definitely not. But then it's

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like my body, my choice for abortion, but then

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for not for experimental vaccines. Well, when,

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when I'm watching the Republican debates and

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when those four candidates up there, they're

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all a bunch of momos. Like if that's the press

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that they have besides Trump, good fucking luck,

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man. Chris Christie, he ran New Jersey into the

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ground and he's fucking trying to run for president.

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I mean, come on. His best bet was to blow Trump

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and become his VP in, uh, you know, the 2016

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election, but he, he fucked that up with. I forget

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what it was in bridge gate. It was something.

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It was something he did after, but, um, cause

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there was, yeah, I can't remember what he did.

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Something, something stupid blew him up. Yeah.

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Yeah. Um, but during COVID he shut down all the

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beaches and he was on the beach with his family.

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That's right. That's right. It was solo beached

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well, actually just by himself and his family.

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No one else is allowed on the beach. Just Just

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like here, all the restaurants are shut down.

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Fucking Newsom is at the French Laundry in Napa.

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And like, do they not realize that we're in the

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world of the internet where everything you do

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is filmed and streamed and everybody could see

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like, you can't say that this is bad for us,

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but yet you're indoor dining. Well, he also had

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like, I guess Newsom owns a winery and like one

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county, the winers are shut down, but the county

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that his winery in, they can winers are not shut

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down. His kids went to private school, so all

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the public schools were closed, but all the private

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schools were open. How convenient. And people

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just sort of like, oh, he's great. We will. He's

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so presidential. He speaks really well. It's

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like fucking lies in your face all goddamn day

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long. Yeah. All you have to do is be handsome

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and tell a lie. Well, and you're good. Yeah,

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apparently. Apparently. You know what I'm saying?

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It's just insane. But just like I was saying,

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to think of going back to, you know, JFK and

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the way the Democrats were then, to fast forward

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to now, I think JFK would look at this part and

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be like, yeah, what the fuck is going on here,

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guys? Well, RFK, his, you know, his nephew was

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trying to run try to run Democrat. They pushed

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him out. They won't even let him primary. Right.

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Right. Taking him down because he's like classic

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Democrat. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, he just happened to

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writes a book about Fauci, the real Anthony Fauci.

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I think it came out before COVID. Like this guy

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was on him already. Oh yeah. No Kennedy's been,

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you know, not, not, I wouldn't say anti -vax,

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but like, you know, especially for kids, like

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he's been advocating, you know, let's change.

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That's not, let's not make it mandatory. The

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full schedule for all kids, like not one size

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fits all because it damages children. Yeah, let's

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look into it further. There's some shit popping.

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That doesn't make sense. Yeah. I mean, he's,

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she's been on that tip the whole time. And, you

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know, of course that Fauci was always like, this

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was all Provax for everybody and just give everybody

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the same thing. What do we do here to, to, to

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get this back to a place that's breathable? Like

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it just, it seems like we're so far gone. I don't

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know. Honestly, I'm sorry to cut you off, but

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my answer honestly would be President Trump in

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2024. But my biggest issue with that is the divide

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that that man brings. It polarizes the left and

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right so far because, you know, people just can't

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stand the fact that a guy speaks the way he does,

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you know, yet he runs the country so well. So

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it's like, I don't give a shit if somebody talks

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about grabbing somebody by the pussy. If he's

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running America properly and making it great

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again, like, what do I care? Right. Well, I mean,

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I agree with you, but it's just they've the whole

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the left has just they've been taught and propagandized

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to fucking hate him no matter what he does. Right.

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That's just my scary thought, because I know

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if we have another four years of what we have

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now, we're fucked. And then I think if we if

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the country gets crazy divided like it was, you

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know, we're then fucked. There's no left and

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right meeting in the middle. It's just, it's

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just a crazy, crazy time. Well, what's interesting

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about that is like, you know, Biden's president,

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no, I mean, I don't think any conservatives like

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him, but you don't like maybe fortunately, unfortunately,

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we're not going fucking crazy in the streets.

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If Trump got back in the left and just go fucking

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insane because that's what they do. And they'll

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have their mostly peaceful protests and burned

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down cities and shit. That's okay. Yeah, that

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allowed to, of course. I'm going to switch gears

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here and bring our lovely guest on. For those

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who were listening in the beginning of the show,

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we have Mr. Steve Savo coming on, a man of many

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hats, many talents, and he's got sons following

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the footsteps. So that's kind of cool. And he's

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live to us from the room. He's got a sweatshirt

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on and everything. What's up, Steve? What's up,

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boys? How you doing? Yes. How are you? Nice shirt.

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You can hear me? Perfect. Yes, sir. You know,

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if I didn't have these kids and even at my job,

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I didn't have younger people in my life. I wouldn't

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know how to do this. I mean, I kind of know how

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to do Zoom, but I'm like, I'm going to mess this

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up. And then when I saw Z -Man on it was a delay.

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I was freaking out for him because I'm like,

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I want to see Z -Man. So I'm like, thank God

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my son Rocky sitting to my left. Kevin's in the

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other room trying to do stuff with his movie.

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But I'm happy to be here, guys. Thank you for

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setting them up, Rocky. We definitely appreciate

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that. We're happy to have you, Steve. You sent

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me a bunch of links. Hey, there he is. What's

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up, Rocky? So we're going to, I'm going to try

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and pull them up. Our young producer, Bobby is

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in the middle of traveling. I'm going to see

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if he could pull those up. But if not, I'm going

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to try to, but I always have issues when I try

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to stream, you know, like show a video or something.

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So I've tried to work them out. I've not yet

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been successful. So, Steve, you play music yourself

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or did? No, I still do. So I've been drumming

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for like 30, 35 years. I started everything late

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in life. You know, I kind of feel funny because

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after Jimmy Lang was on the show, I saw one of

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the listeners like you're talking about love,

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you're talking about rush. But Jimmy and I became

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friends because we have those two bands in common.

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So I. I've seen and hung out with Rush for so

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many years that I've seen him 126 times. Wow,

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nice. Neil said to me one day, because I would

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always air drum, because one of my closest friends,

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Dean Kosh, would air drum, and he was a great

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drummer, and I was just an admirer. And when

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he would air drum, I would watch. I'm like, oh,

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I know that's the hi -hat. I know that's the

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snare. I know that's the splash in China, et

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cetera. So I got so good at air drumming that...

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One day Neil Peart's like, you know, when I was

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hanging out at Soundcheck, why don't you get

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a drum set? So I did. And the funny thing is

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years later, when I had kids, my son Mark's like,

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when he was really young, because I took all

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my kids to shows young. And he's like, hey, daddy,

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he goes, that guy was eardrumming and he stopped

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when he saw you. And I was like, yeah, because

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he knows I'm the best. Just joking around. But

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years later, here I am in Boston and some dude

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taps me on the shoulder. He goes, man, you're

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pretty spot on. I turn to my right. I'm like,

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oh, thanks, man. And I do a double take. I go,

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no. I go, you're complimenting me. And it was

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Mike Portnoy. Wow. Nice. Yeah, so he goes I'll

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be good in the second set. It was our 40 where

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they did things backwards He goes the older stuff

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is where I'm good at and we hung out for the

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rest of the show talking drums You know in between

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and and stayed friends So that that was cool.

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I probably a better air drummer and I'm a drummer

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but I Fancy myself as an entertainer, you know,

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there's so many drummers better than me locally

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But I guess the best compliment I get is man

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he goes but you're more fun to watch There you

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go Well, Kevin, you got a recommendation to get

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a drum set from the master. I mean, how couldn't

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you? Yeah, I kept it pretty simple with that

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guy. I used to be afraid to like, you know, Kevin

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would come on the road with me and hang out with

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Geddy and Alex and goes, dad, there's Neil. I'm

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like, well, I'm not going over there. So he goes

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over here. So Neil took a liking to Kevin, like

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from like six years old on. I said, well, if

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you're going to go over there, give them these

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Jeff Buckley CDs that I recorded for him, because

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I knew Neil liked Jeff Buckley. And before I

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met Rush, I was I saw a book about the Soviet

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Union. I put a letter in a page where someone

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was wearing a Rush shirt. I'm like, boy, I know

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they never been there. But, you know, give this

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to Neil before I got to know the band. And he

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wrote me back as a 17 year old. And, you know,

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fast forward, fast forward years later, I. I

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write inside the CDs. Hey, Neil, if you want

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some more of these CDs, I made them for you.

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You know, here's our address. Knowing he wouldn't

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say, yeah, Steve, send me more. Right. Knowing

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that two weeks later, he sent a postcard, you

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know, Dear Kevin, thanks for joining that on

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the road. I'm glad you had a good time. Thank

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that for Jeff Buckley CDs. And and it's it was

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just so cool. Full circle and a lot of cool memories.

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with them and with a lot of other bands, and

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including your band, Chad, you know, maybe I

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was an unconventional dad bringing my kids to

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concerts at six, seven, eight, 10. A great dad.

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That's awesome. Yeah. Well, Kevin is 27 now.

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He could play drums, guitar, bass, sing, keyboards,

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does it all. And now he makes movies. That's

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great. Yeah. you know, and I didn't teach him

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any of that. And, you know, some of those pictures

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I sent to you, John, you know, they surpass you.

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My biggest stage was Toad's Place. You remember

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Toad's Place, Chad? Yeah. Where is it? What city

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is it in? New Haven, Connecticut. It's like our

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whiskey, a go -go. So you've got the whiskey

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in the West Coast, Toad's. It was a place where

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like you two would play and, you know, Billy

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Joel and Bruce. You guys did The Secret Samani.

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Um, like debut there before the album came out.

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Right. Yes. And, um, it was weird because as

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much as I love your band, I didn't know anything

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but Likini's. And I went to that show with Ken

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from Ageless. Of course you remember him. I remember

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Ken. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. I think Ken's the big

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boss at the agency group now, like either. He's

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pretty high up there for sure. Yes, he is. He's

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so high up there that I got to talk to his assistant

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when I want to talk to him. But he was a rush

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traveling buddy as we grew up. uh, just going

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to see shows. And, uh, so, uh, yeah, so I still

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play, um, you know, I started playing in a band

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and 94 bam called prime Ellen. I did record a

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record called the storm has come. It's funny,

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like 30 years later, I had to have somebody give

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me back a copy. I gave them because I don't even

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have one. Oh, wow. Yeah. And, um, you know, I

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got better, uh, as I started playing with other

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musicians, uh, I played in a band called, uh,

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hype for 22 years that I just ended. And I kept

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the singer because, you know, as much as I love

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running the band and, you know, booking the gigs,

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you got to have great talent up front, you know?

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So my singer, Mark DiBiardino, fantastic human.

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This guy is so awesome, you know, as a singer

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that I named my youngest son after him and spelled

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it the same way with a C. Yeah. So today I, you

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know, I I'm gonna say this for the first time.

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My new band's called Epic. Sweet. 30 songs behind

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the scenes. I'm not doing any shows till 2024.

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I think we're gonna debut just like Hype did

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at Toad's Place. I sent you a clip from a long

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time ago where we played Lightning Crashes and

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we sold out as a headliner at Toad's Place. And

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that was my biggest night ever where I had...

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what, 800 people singing back the chorus of Lightning

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Crashes was kind of cool. What kind of feeling

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is that, man? It's cool. But you know what's

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funny when I'm in a room with other musicians

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that do originals, I kind of get embarrassed

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where, you know, oh, you guys are great. I love

00:22:06.380 --> 00:22:08.220
your band. And I'm always like, well, did you

00:22:08.220 --> 00:22:09.880
hear Scott's band? You know, they just released

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a CD and, you know, why don't you buy one? And

00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:15.720
it's cool. But it's just. a little strange. So

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I'm I'm glad as an older dude, I'm like humbled

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because I draw big crowds because I work my ass

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off. Yeah. And and I just I don't know. Take

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the compliment. Don't don't be bashful. Well,

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one of the coolest compliments I ever got was

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was online from Chad. I was talking to someone

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online and I think I just said I just served

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the song and I think you liked it. And I was

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like, oh, that's fucking awesome. Very cool.

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But I'm going to be sure because I'm not sure

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which one, but soon soon enough, he should be

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able to pull one up. But I didn't mean to cut

00:22:49.390 --> 00:22:51.329
you off there, Steve. No, no, you're good. I

00:22:51.329 --> 00:22:54.210
need to shut up and listen to the host. No, never.

00:22:54.470 --> 00:22:56.549
So let me ask you this. So you said that your

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biggest crowd was three thousand people, dude.

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That's a fucking no. No, no, no, no, no. My biggest

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crowd was Toads, which was like eight hundred

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and eighty. My kids and finally surpassed me.

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The next biggest place is the Oakdale Theater.

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And, you know, they do hip hop and I You know,

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they kind of hit it for me for a little while

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because they think, oh, I'm not really into it.

00:23:16.809 --> 00:23:18.190
But as long as they don't do drugs, I don't give

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a shit what they're doing. You know? Yeah. Yeah.

00:23:20.609 --> 00:23:23.970
But they had 3000 people there. Nice. And, you

00:23:23.970 --> 00:23:26.509
know, I'm thrilled that they surpassed that.

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You know, absolutely. Right. You always want

00:23:28.450 --> 00:23:31.309
your kids to do better than you, I think. Yes.

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Although some parents do get jealous, like I've

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heard, like, you know. Mothers that wanted to

00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:40.400
be actresses get their daughters involved their

00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:42.380
daughters go to become getting big jobs And then

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the mother's all jealous, so that's really obvious

00:23:45.980 --> 00:23:49.299
to him and his he's like not cool with his son

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for some reason it's like the big competition

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and But whatever you know we gave one one. I

00:23:54.619 --> 00:23:58.059
think we know So Bobby's pulling this up now.

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He's sharing the the foot he's on his phone because

00:24:00.299 --> 00:24:02.500
like I said he's traveling but This should be

00:24:02.500 --> 00:24:04.660
one of the videos that you sent us. So yeah,

00:24:04.779 --> 00:24:06.299
this is great. This is one of his son's movies,

00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:08.359
a trailer. Oh, cool. Bobby, you're not sharing

00:24:08.359 --> 00:24:09.980
with sound. I don't know if you could, if you

00:24:09.980 --> 00:24:13.140
could do that. Uh, so I'm going to stop your

00:24:13.140 --> 00:24:14.900
share, see if you could share again, but with

00:24:14.900 --> 00:24:18.079
sound. Uh, I apologize folks again, we, we, we

00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:20.180
had these things kind of iron out, but while

00:24:20.180 --> 00:24:22.240
Bobby's traveling, it's a little different than,

00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:24.519
um, his computer. So let's see if he could share

00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:27.420
with sound and we'll get that going. Steve has

00:24:27.420 --> 00:24:30.619
had damn Bob exactly it was that trailer. He

00:24:30.619 --> 00:24:32.859
just pulled up Was that your son's latest movie

00:24:32.859 --> 00:24:37.240
or was that the one before no that is? Like a

00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:40.240
series that he has on YouTube so he made two

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movies First one he made with his own money he

00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:46.259
wrote directed starred edited finance called

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the opener loosely based on his own life and

00:24:50.910 --> 00:24:53.329
I have a cameo in that one. And then he got a

00:24:53.329 --> 00:24:56.049
$50 ,000 advance to make his second movie called

00:24:56.049 --> 00:25:00.130
rerouting. And that's called The Adventures of

00:25:00.130 --> 00:25:02.869
Save a Hoe, where he's a satire and a play on

00:25:02.869 --> 00:25:06.170
our last name, where he's a like private investigator

00:25:06.170 --> 00:25:10.750
that saves hoes. Nice. Save a Hoe. Is it Savo,

00:25:10.829 --> 00:25:13.069
your last name, by the way? Savo, I guess in

00:25:13.069 --> 00:25:15.990
Italy they say Savo, but it's Savo. I knew that.

00:25:16.089 --> 00:25:17.990
I was just checking to make sure you knew that.

00:25:19.450 --> 00:25:23.490
So save. Oh, save a ho. I like that. That's a

00:25:23.490 --> 00:25:26.710
cool. You got to be. I was talking to Kev. You

00:25:26.710 --> 00:25:28.509
definitely down the road. You're going to come

00:25:28.509 --> 00:25:31.829
and film and be in one of those. I'm in. You

00:25:31.829 --> 00:25:33.750
know that I'm always because I watch some of

00:25:33.750 --> 00:25:36.190
your stuff, you know, your comedian stuff and

00:25:36.190 --> 00:25:38.230
you're acting or whatever. And I was watching

00:25:38.230 --> 00:25:41.650
the show, I think, with Bill and you were talking

00:25:41.650 --> 00:25:43.849
about drugs. And it was very interesting to me.

00:25:43.980 --> 00:25:48.039
Yes. So I had, uh, growing up, I got, uh, you

00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:49.700
know, I was, I grew up in North Jersey and it

00:25:49.700 --> 00:25:54.099
was the nineties and, uh, ecstasy and like psychedelics

00:25:54.099 --> 00:25:57.160
were all very popular. So I was a, I experimented

00:25:57.160 --> 00:26:00.240
a lot and you know, I knock on wood that I had

00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:02.619
a, I had a good experience with, with drugs because

00:26:02.619 --> 00:26:04.759
I was always scared of them and I did my research

00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:07.799
on them before I did them. Uh, but I've also

00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:10.779
watched a lot of people just, you know, go down

00:26:10.779 --> 00:26:14.720
tubes. So while I. I'm a proponent of people

00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:16.960
experimenting and stuff. Sometimes I'm not because

00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:18.500
some people can't handle it. You kind of got

00:26:18.500 --> 00:26:20.940
to know yourself going into it and do, you know,

00:26:20.940 --> 00:26:23.740
your proper research. But I always had a good

00:26:23.740 --> 00:26:25.579
experience with them. Thank, thank the Lord.

00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:29.859
Even with PC data. Oh my goodness. Yeah. I had

00:26:29.859 --> 00:26:32.420
too much, too much fun with PCP to be honest.

00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:36.039
Uh, so I had too much fun on it. People around

00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:38.140
me probably didn't have so much fun. Cause I

00:26:38.140 --> 00:26:39.960
would, that stuff will make you out of your mind.

00:26:40.019 --> 00:26:44.160
It's a psychic, um, psychedelic plus a disassociative.

00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:48.420
So you could literally be not in this realm and,

00:26:48.420 --> 00:26:50.539
and, and see things that aren't there. So it

00:26:50.539 --> 00:26:52.920
could definitely get crazy. That's what I liked

00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:55.720
about it though, is that it got me outside of

00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:58.220
my brain and made, you know, kind of opened up

00:26:58.220 --> 00:27:01.900
to wait a second. How am I seeing this like in

00:27:01.900 --> 00:27:04.720
front of my face? Like, is this possible that

00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:07.559
it's real or, you know, is it a different realm?

00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:10.500
Is it just like, the drug induced, uh, you know,

00:27:10.660 --> 00:27:13.700
psychosis or something, but, um, and then I've

00:27:13.700 --> 00:27:15.400
talked to plenty of people who've had similar

00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:17.759
experiences and there, a lot of them feel connected.

00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:20.319
A lot of them feel, uh, you know, the same, like

00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:24.079
they're doing longterm studies with DMT is a

00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:26.940
fast acting psychedelic. Usually you smoke it

00:27:26.940 --> 00:27:29.799
and it's about 10 to 15 minutes of a trip, but

00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:31.319
they're doing stuff now where they're having

00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:34.819
people, uh, you know, in a doctor setting, uh,

00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:38.940
intravenously drip it and do it for hours. And

00:27:38.940 --> 00:27:41.099
they're going to the same place and having very

00:27:41.099 --> 00:27:43.759
similar experiences. So they're, they're, they're

00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:46.299
diving in, doing research into it to see, because

00:27:46.299 --> 00:27:49.180
as you know, your body naturally produces DMT

00:27:49.180 --> 00:27:52.599
either, uh, at time of death, or, uh, sometimes

00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:54.920
I think they say at time of sleep, it could be

00:27:54.920 --> 00:27:57.720
what helps your dreams and stuff. So they're,

00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:00.140
they're, they're studying it, but I believe that,

00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:05.259
uh, either we can access other. dimensions. I

00:28:05.259 --> 00:28:07.460
know it sounds crazy, but I believe that your

00:28:07.460 --> 00:28:09.839
brain could probably do it naturally, but drugs

00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:15.579
get you there a little easier. So Bobby's having

00:28:15.579 --> 00:28:22.519
technical difficulties. I'm going to try and

00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:29.200
share for Steve. But yeah, dude, like I said,

00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.259
I'm down to clown with whatever you guys got

00:28:32.259 --> 00:28:35.099
going on. Your son, especially, produces some

00:28:35.099 --> 00:28:38.940
really, really cool stuff. I'm just trying to

00:28:38.940 --> 00:28:40.680
see if I can pull these up while we're having

00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:43.900
this conversation. So don't mind me if I'm not.

00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:46.299
I want to say something about drugs because,

00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:49.000
so I listened pretty much for like an hour of

00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:50.740
that, probably the whole thing that when you

00:28:50.740 --> 00:28:54.990
were on in that show. So I, uh, after, well,

00:28:55.210 --> 00:28:58.289
before, during, and after, you know, uh, my divorce,

00:28:58.730 --> 00:29:00.970
uh, to my kid's mom, we were together for like

00:29:00.970 --> 00:29:04.990
27 years, got married really young. Um, I never

00:29:04.990 --> 00:29:07.190
did drugs in high school and I was just a regular

00:29:07.190 --> 00:29:09.809
drinker, but all of a sudden I fell in love with

00:29:09.809 --> 00:29:12.470
painkillers. And then when the Oxycontins came

00:29:12.470 --> 00:29:16.730
around and show was over. And then I had an old

00:29:16.730 --> 00:29:18.410
buddies like, no, you're going to do a heroin.

00:29:18.509 --> 00:29:20.349
I'm not going to do heroin. I don't like needles.

00:29:21.150 --> 00:29:23.890
Sure enough, one day when I was sick and I could

00:29:23.890 --> 00:29:26.329
snort it. Next thing you know, I'm doing 10 to

00:29:26.329 --> 00:29:32.710
20 bags of dope a day. Wow. So Steve, how long

00:29:32.710 --> 00:29:35.809
ago was that? If you don't mind. Well, happy

00:29:35.809 --> 00:29:39.390
to say it. New Year's Eve this year will be seven

00:29:39.390 --> 00:29:41.569
years. I haven't had a drink, drug or a cigarette.

00:29:41.930 --> 00:29:45.740
Wow. Good for you. absolutely good for you because

00:29:45.740 --> 00:29:49.079
I know plenty of people that you know once they

00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:51.160
go that route and they and they and they go with

00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:54.339
the heroin it's I don't know many that came back

00:29:54.339 --> 00:29:56.339
from it so God bless you for that dude that's

00:29:56.339 --> 00:29:59.380
a that's a big feat you you went off of so congratulations

00:29:59.380 --> 00:30:01.740
well I work at it thank you I work at it every

00:30:01.740 --> 00:30:05.880
day I go to meetings I do NAAA I went through

00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:07.980
the steps three times I take guys through the

00:30:07.980 --> 00:30:10.980
steps I mean Being on the show and talking about

00:30:10.980 --> 00:30:13.799
music and being with one of my favorite musicians

00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:16.180
is awesome. But nothing is more important to

00:30:16.180 --> 00:30:19.619
me than getting that message out or strangers

00:30:19.619 --> 00:30:22.059
hitting me up. Instead of saying, I saw your

00:30:22.059 --> 00:30:24.220
band. You guys are great. They're like, I see

00:30:24.220 --> 00:30:26.539
your life changes. Can you help me? You know,

00:30:26.579 --> 00:30:30.140
that's beautiful. Yeah, really. I could drop

00:30:30.140 --> 00:30:32.880
what I'm doing at work and my bosses. I remember

00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:35.200
one day a girl came to my job on a Wednesday

00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.839
and I'm off on Wednesdays. And so ironically

00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:40.019
enough today, my boss has just let me leave for

00:30:40.019 --> 00:30:43.359
three, four hours. But see, my boss overheard.

00:30:43.460 --> 00:30:46.500
He goes, Steve, I need help. I lost my phone.

00:30:46.539 --> 00:30:49.680
So I came to your job. I slept in the woods last

00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:53.059
night. The rehab has a bed for me. Can you give

00:30:53.059 --> 00:30:54.900
me a ride? And I turned to my boss. He's like,

00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:58.359
just go, go. Wow. And as I'm driving there, I

00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:01.809
said. This is God, you know, I'm not overly religious

00:31:01.809 --> 00:31:04.349
guys, but I'm very spiritual thing. And I said,

00:31:04.509 --> 00:31:06.690
this is a God moment because I'm normally off

00:31:06.690 --> 00:31:09.529
Wednesdays. Had you walked in and asked for Steve

00:31:09.529 --> 00:31:11.630
and he wasn't here, you might have went back

00:31:11.630 --> 00:31:14.710
to the woods and died. Right. Right. Now, I certainly

00:31:14.710 --> 00:31:16.890
didn't say it, but I just there's a lot of moments

00:31:16.890 --> 00:31:20.269
like that that happen. And and I don't know,

00:31:20.269 --> 00:31:22.549
my journey has been pretty awesome. And so many

00:31:22.549 --> 00:31:25.430
things have changed. I remember on my birthday,

00:31:25.970 --> 00:31:29.339
I think it was like six months in. I was living

00:31:29.339 --> 00:31:31.759
with a girl who I'm not with anymore, but we're

00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:37.220
friends. And I drove the PNC to see live. I don't

00:31:37.220 --> 00:31:38.640
know if you remember this, Chad. I mean, you

00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.900
see a lot of friends, but I ran up and saw you.

00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:43.660
And I love how you say you can walk through the

00:31:43.660 --> 00:31:45.400
crowd and not be recognized. And that's probably

00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:49.319
a cool thing. I love it. And I said hello to

00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:50.700
you and I'm like, oh, it's my birthday, man.

00:31:50.819 --> 00:31:54.880
I came by myself and. You know, it was one of

00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:56.799
those cool things. On the way back, I remember

00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:58.420
she was busting my stones, like, why aren't you

00:31:58.420 --> 00:32:00.079
gonna come back? And I'm like, you know what?

00:32:00.420 --> 00:32:03.079
It's my birthday. I wanna do what I want. I drove

00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:05.799
the Jersey. Listen, I'll go to any show by myself.

00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:09.240
And I'm going to Pittsburgh to celebrate my seven

00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:11.519
-year anniversary by myself, because my kids

00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:13.599
can't come see three Penguin games, because that's

00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:16.220
my other passion. Drove the Jersey. Listen, I'll

00:32:16.220 --> 00:32:19.000
go to any show by myself. And I'm going to Pittsburgh

00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.759
to celebrate my seven -year anniversary. By myself.

00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:28.259
There we go. Sorry about that. OK, cool. So anyway,

00:32:28.259 --> 00:32:31.599
I'm driving back and I'm like, you know what?

00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:35.259
I hung up politely and I just went home and made

00:32:35.259 --> 00:32:38.400
some life changes. And I was just driving to

00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:41.220
a show alone and back is where you lose out on

00:32:41.220 --> 00:32:44.119
an awesome time talking to someone like my son

00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:46.039
Rocky and I are big hockey fans. So we drive

00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:48.160
seven hours to Pittsburgh. You know, it's like,

00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:49.339
oh, I'm going to take a little nap. I'm like,

00:32:49.380 --> 00:32:51.079
well, rock 30 minutes and we're there. That's

00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.660
how much. Talking, we do that. That's awesome.

00:32:53.859 --> 00:32:56.680
So to be alone in a car for two, three hours

00:32:56.680 --> 00:32:59.039
to go see a band anywhere, you got to love the

00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:01.779
band. And I just started learning more about

00:33:01.779 --> 00:33:04.519
myself. Like, I'm going to just do what I want.

00:33:04.579 --> 00:33:06.920
I used to be afraid of flying. Now I'm a sober

00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:10.539
man. To when we go to California Rock two years

00:33:10.539 --> 00:33:13.339
ago, we drove, we flew to just drive on a Pacific

00:33:13.339 --> 00:33:16.700
Coast Highway and we caught the penguins in L

00:33:16.700 --> 00:33:19.900
.A., Anaheim and San Jose. Then the following

00:33:19.900 --> 00:33:22.799
year went to Colorado nine more NHL arenas and

00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:26.599
I've done all 32. Oh, wow, sweet Well, I live

00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:30.000
my life now and and once again Chad I know it's

00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.099
probably something you don't remember but just

00:33:32.099 --> 00:33:34.380
to see you to run into you at a show that I'm

00:33:34.380 --> 00:33:36.759
by myself to see one of my favorite bands because

00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:39.559
listen, I love Russian they're like musicians

00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:43.220
been but something about live got me on my feet

00:33:43.220 --> 00:33:46.319
and I'm not it's funny a drummer doesn't dance

00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:49.099
but live makes me move in it and it just brings

00:33:49.099 --> 00:33:51.779
out the best in me. So that meant a lot to me.

00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:53.579
I'm like, and I'll be damned if someone was going

00:33:53.579 --> 00:33:55.380
to ruin it on the way home. And I just hung up

00:33:55.380 --> 00:33:57.740
and enjoyed the ride home. You know, that's really

00:33:57.740 --> 00:34:00.559
great. Well, I like your comment. Drummer doesn't

00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:03.099
dance. I fucking hate dancing. Well, I mean,

00:34:03.099 --> 00:34:04.839
I could move from the waist down because I, you

00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:06.279
know, I used to play hockey. I can ice skate.

00:34:06.460 --> 00:34:08.500
I could roller skate. But like, what do I do

00:34:08.500 --> 00:34:10.460
with the top half of my body so I can move my

00:34:10.460 --> 00:34:13.420
head? What am I going to do? Like it's I'm like,

00:34:13.500 --> 00:34:17.280
forget it, you know. Chad, you kind of have like

00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:19.059
a dance groove while you're drumming, though.

00:34:19.099 --> 00:34:21.760
I mean, you're real animated behind that kit.

00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:23.760
I mean, you might not be dancing on standing

00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:25.820
up on your two feet, but back there, you're like,

00:34:25.820 --> 00:34:28.360
you know. Wow. Yeah. I don't consider that dancing,

00:34:28.380 --> 00:34:31.739
but yeah, I mean, I guess it can be a form of

00:34:31.739 --> 00:34:35.480
dance. Rocking in your seat. I'm sorry. Steve,

00:34:35.539 --> 00:34:37.539
but you touch on a bunch of fascinating things,

00:34:37.539 --> 00:34:40.360
and I think it's important for the audience to

00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:41.860
hear some serious stuff every now and again.

00:34:42.730 --> 00:34:48.150
Going back to the painkiller thing, a doctor

00:34:48.150 --> 00:34:52.010
started you on a regimen of them after? Yeah,

00:34:53.090 --> 00:34:55.030
back surgery, a little minor back surgery, but

00:34:55.030 --> 00:34:57.050
it was an excuse. I was already playing around

00:34:57.050 --> 00:34:59.730
with it, and then we moved to Charlotte, and

00:34:59.730 --> 00:35:01.550
I knew I was close to Florida, and I'm like,

00:35:01.590 --> 00:35:04.630
boy, if I could start looking into this, I can...

00:35:04.590 --> 00:35:06.670
So it's funny, drug addicts are very creative.

00:35:07.250 --> 00:35:09.050
So it's like, you would think like, well, if

00:35:09.050 --> 00:35:11.050
you could be creative and get a good job and

00:35:11.050 --> 00:35:13.050
take care of your family, no, we're gonna get

00:35:13.050 --> 00:35:16.409
up early and get what we need before full withdrawal

00:35:16.409 --> 00:35:20.369
at noontime kicks in. So that's why I tell people,

00:35:20.469 --> 00:35:22.309
it's so much easier to do the 12 steps and clean

00:35:22.309 --> 00:35:25.250
up your life than wake up and bullshit people

00:35:25.250 --> 00:35:28.889
and find, I never was a scumbag or a thief, but

00:35:28.889 --> 00:35:32.820
you know, I did all this. while I had three kids

00:35:32.820 --> 00:35:36.900
at home and I went from, my band hype was so

00:35:36.900 --> 00:35:40.179
successful that I took a four piece cover band

00:35:40.179 --> 00:35:44.070
and we were making like 2 ,500. a night and I

00:35:44.070 --> 00:35:45.570
salaried out. I was a booking agent. I said,

00:35:45.730 --> 00:35:47.809
guys, everyone else makes 100 a man. I know that

00:35:47.809 --> 00:35:50.610
sucks, but I'll pay you guys 300 a piece. You

00:35:50.610 --> 00:35:52.449
plug in, play and leave and I'll take the rest.

00:35:52.690 --> 00:35:55.010
So I would leave at like six to 900 bucks, but

00:35:55.010 --> 00:35:57.250
I would be there and do all the work and I'd

00:35:57.250 --> 00:35:59.389
go home and boy, your band was great. We were

00:35:59.389 --> 00:36:01.050
stopping in for a drink and we were going to

00:36:01.050 --> 00:36:03.250
go somewhere else, but we stayed all night. So

00:36:03.250 --> 00:36:05.269
I'll look up where they are. And until the sun

00:36:05.269 --> 00:36:08.170
comes up, you know, I'm emailing those fans and

00:36:08.170 --> 00:36:11.019
stuff and keeping the draw going. So for years

00:36:11.019 --> 00:36:13.599
I was able to just quit working and be an amateur

00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:16.659
drummer and take care of my three kids. And,

00:36:16.659 --> 00:36:20.559
uh, wow. Yeah. So, uh, but as I started to get

00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:23.900
lost, my guitar player left and went to LA and

00:36:23.900 --> 00:36:27.760
band went down and then my brother had died from,

00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:31.219
from this disease. So then, uh, a best friend

00:36:31.219 --> 00:36:34.539
of mine died from just broke his neck. And I

00:36:34.539 --> 00:36:36.800
remember I was on tour with Russian and I was

00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:40.760
going to see him and I called him and he He answered

00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:43.579
the phone, but his phone was messed up and he

00:36:43.579 --> 00:36:45.599
hung up and I never got to see him was he broke

00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:48.000
his neck on a trampoline. So it was like loss,

00:36:48.460 --> 00:36:51.900
loss after loss. And when you're an addict, you

00:36:51.900 --> 00:36:55.519
know, you just start self -medicating and, uh,

00:36:55.519 --> 00:36:58.179
and then eventually it gives you an excuse, right?

00:36:58.219 --> 00:37:00.280
Yeah. And eventually I ruined everything. You

00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:03.619
know, I owned a home at 19, married at 20, waited

00:37:03.619 --> 00:37:06.019
seven years to have kids. So I didn't have to

00:37:06.019 --> 00:37:08.800
get married, but, um, you know, those opiates

00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:14.369
took my my marriage, my family, you know. That's

00:37:14.369 --> 00:37:16.750
the one I've seen ruin the most lives is the

00:37:16.750 --> 00:37:20.289
opiates. Oh, yeah. Draw in. And believe it or

00:37:20.289 --> 00:37:22.710
not, I mean, while there are physical addictive

00:37:22.710 --> 00:37:26.469
qualities to it, alcohol and Xanax are the ones

00:37:26.469 --> 00:37:28.849
you can't quit cold turkey like you need to wean

00:37:28.849 --> 00:37:31.969
off because you could stroke out or die, even

00:37:31.969 --> 00:37:33.690
though it feels like you're going to die going

00:37:33.690 --> 00:37:35.769
through that withdrawal and heroin. You know,

00:37:35.829 --> 00:37:38.199
I don't think anybody does. No, you're right.

00:37:38.219 --> 00:37:41.860
I was in detox for two days. And boy, this is

00:37:41.860 --> 00:37:46.219
a funny one. So I I went in on New Year's Eve

00:37:46.219 --> 00:37:47.960
because you know how many times I'm going to

00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:49.480
give up drinking or whatever. And then you do

00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:51.400
a drink at midnight. Well, it's technically the

00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:53.440
first. So let's wait to the second. That's a

00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:55.480
weird day. Let's do February. And the funny thing

00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:59.079
is, had I known live was doing that concert on

00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:02.619
New Year's Eve, I might have like driven to Pennsylvania

00:38:02.619 --> 00:38:04.980
and still been out there doing drugs. But I was

00:38:04.980 --> 00:38:08.130
like, shit. You know, and I have ways of sneaking

00:38:08.130 --> 00:38:11.190
into whatever I want or getting past places that

00:38:11.190 --> 00:38:13.889
I'm not invited to. And I mean, half the times

00:38:13.889 --> 00:38:17.469
I actually, you know, went up to anyone in live

00:38:17.469 --> 00:38:19.909
or even Rush before I became friends with him.

00:38:20.050 --> 00:38:22.829
I just when I saw my friends that worked for

00:38:22.829 --> 00:38:24.889
Rush wearing passes that had like pictures of

00:38:24.889 --> 00:38:26.750
Dennis Hopper, it didn't even say all access

00:38:26.750 --> 00:38:28.670
on it. I'm like, I could use my old passes. I

00:38:28.670 --> 00:38:31.989
walked anywhere I wanted with my mean face. You

00:38:31.989 --> 00:38:33.650
know, I remember security go, could I help you?

00:38:33.650 --> 00:38:39.579
I'm like, no. Nice. So yeah, I invaded a couple

00:38:39.579 --> 00:38:43.659
of spots, you know, with you guys, but I know

00:38:43.659 --> 00:38:48.119
anyway, I just, you know, that those years of

00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:50.900
doing drugs and forgetting that I was a dad and

00:38:50.900 --> 00:38:53.460
everything, it got to the point where the kids

00:38:53.460 --> 00:38:55.239
would say, well, listen, you know, we got to

00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:57.320
come to the realization that dad's going to die.

00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:00.440
Oh, you know, because I gave up the pills because

00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:02.019
they didn't work anymore. And I was doing the

00:39:02.019 --> 00:39:04.079
heroin. And, you know, finally on New Year's

00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:07.559
Eve, 2016, I said, That's it. And I actually

00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:09.800
left detox after two days because I was more

00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:12.139
triggered in there. I could get you. I could

00:39:12.139 --> 00:39:14.239
get you dope a lot cheaper. And people were throwing

00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:16.119
it. I'm like, I got it. And everyone was mad

00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:18.239
at me, my whole family. And I went home and I

00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:20.019
white knuckled it. Yeah, I was just saying, I

00:39:20.019 --> 00:39:22.159
probably didn't believe you that you were being

00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:26.579
tested there that way. Yeah. Yeah. But I and

00:39:26.579 --> 00:39:28.659
even I, you know what? I don't like talking about

00:39:28.659 --> 00:39:31.420
this, but, you know, I'm going to bring it up

00:39:31.420 --> 00:39:33.900
for the listeners that I wasn't in the Coke.

00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:36.530
But when you're hurting, And, you know, someone's

00:39:36.530 --> 00:39:38.150
like, well, I got some coke and I'm like, all

00:39:38.150 --> 00:39:40.530
right, I'll start. So you can't start. It's a

00:39:40.530 --> 00:39:42.090
I'm like, what do you got crack? I'm like, I

00:39:42.090 --> 00:39:44.530
don't do crack. But when you're that low, guys,

00:39:44.610 --> 00:39:47.050
you'll do anything to take the edge off. Yeah.

00:39:47.150 --> 00:39:49.650
I'm only buying from dealers that sell heroin

00:39:49.650 --> 00:39:54.369
and crack. And and it's kind of funny. I feel

00:39:54.369 --> 00:39:57.110
silly talking about all this, but I don't because

00:39:57.110 --> 00:39:59.650
I became friends. I like became friends with

00:39:59.650 --> 00:40:02.329
Chad's mom when I was in Pennsylvania going to

00:40:02.329 --> 00:40:05.610
see Zeeman. So, uh, but I, you know, I, I mom

00:40:05.610 --> 00:40:08.409
said, she sent out a few things, uh, about, you

00:40:08.409 --> 00:40:10.170
know, my sobriety where she supports me. So your

00:40:10.170 --> 00:40:12.389
mom's an awesome woman and, uh, she's great.

00:40:12.590 --> 00:40:15.750
Yes. And Z man's, uh, alcohol free and we talk

00:40:15.750 --> 00:40:18.769
about that. And, and, uh, yeah. So I, I, you

00:40:18.769 --> 00:40:20.889
know, in live because of live, I met so many

00:40:20.889 --> 00:40:23.369
great people, Thomas and there, you know, was

00:40:23.369 --> 00:40:25.610
it fear fire? What's her name from Australia?

00:40:25.710 --> 00:40:28.610
I don't know how to pronounce it. Yeah. So I,

00:40:28.610 --> 00:40:30.769
and I met her with your mom when I went to go

00:40:30.769 --> 00:40:34.800
see, uh, Chris and his band play. And of course,

00:40:34.820 --> 00:40:38.420
Adam Kowalczyk, who on my 50th birthday, I booked

00:40:38.420 --> 00:40:41.300
to come play a show where my kids opened up and

00:40:41.300 --> 00:40:45.219
then his band Hello. And then my band Hype and

00:40:45.219 --> 00:40:48.039
then Ed showed up to support his brother. And

00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:52.380
yeah, so I'll tell you what, guys, none of this

00:40:52.380 --> 00:40:54.139
would have happened if I didn't clean my act

00:40:54.139 --> 00:40:56.420
up. Again, I wasn't a scumbag, but when you're

00:40:56.420 --> 00:40:59.219
not living right, you don't show up for things

00:40:59.219 --> 00:41:02.570
and. And I'm happy to say that everything in

00:41:02.570 --> 00:41:05.869
my life today is fantastic. Everything with my

00:41:05.869 --> 00:41:09.289
sons is fantastic. All three of them. I just

00:41:09.289 --> 00:41:11.909
got a new car today. I work for a car dealership,

00:41:12.030 --> 00:41:14.070
a Subaru dealership, but I bought a convertible

00:41:14.070 --> 00:41:18.349
Mustang today. Yes. Yeah. And and I'm like, I

00:41:18.349 --> 00:41:21.710
don't even need it, but I just bought it. And

00:41:21.710 --> 00:41:24.070
and like, I don't know. Life is great, man. Rocky

00:41:24.070 --> 00:41:26.170
and I are picking our next trip to see the penguins,

00:41:26.250 --> 00:41:29.860
maybe Minnesota. I don't know. But I just live

00:41:29.860 --> 00:41:32.880
life to the fullest today, and I'm single, but

00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:36.099
I'm not lonely. I date, but I won't settle. I

00:41:36.099 --> 00:41:40.480
haven't found the right one yet. Smart. Music,

00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:45.320
family, sobriety, and now you guys. Single, ready

00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:48.539
to mingle. I love it. It makes me happiest that

00:41:48.539 --> 00:41:51.059
you've got to repair your relationship with your

00:41:51.059 --> 00:41:53.480
sons, because that's the most important. Yes,

00:41:53.579 --> 00:41:56.460
definitely. And you made a great point that,

00:41:56.460 --> 00:41:59.619
uh, if, if drug addicts can get past, you know,

00:41:59.739 --> 00:42:02.119
that addiction and that disease, and they use

00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:05.059
that energy that they had to fuel that addiction

00:42:05.059 --> 00:42:07.840
and disease that they could do anything there,

00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:10.539
you know, some of them have the best drive that

00:42:10.539 --> 00:42:13.400
you've seen. Like, uh, you know, it's almost

00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:17.639
like a lot of people with that drive could potentially

00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:19.820
be drug addicts if they ever tried it, you know

00:42:19.820 --> 00:42:21.179
what I'm saying? It's like, you're kind of born

00:42:21.179 --> 00:42:23.320
with that drive and then it just leans into the

00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:26.389
addiction. But I'm glad you're using it now for

00:42:26.389 --> 00:42:28.849
the betterment of yourself and helping out your

00:42:28.849 --> 00:42:31.449
family rather than going down that slippery slope.

00:42:32.090 --> 00:42:34.190
I think about a lot of like addict behavior.

00:42:34.230 --> 00:42:36.210
Like when a guy at work's like, dude, what happened

00:42:36.210 --> 00:42:39.090
to you? He's 30 and I'm 55. He's like, he got

00:42:39.090 --> 00:42:41.570
written up at work. And I'm like, can you send

00:42:41.570 --> 00:42:43.789
off an email to the big brass? And I'm like,

00:42:43.809 --> 00:42:46.949
yep. And he's like, why? I said, notice that

00:42:46.949 --> 00:42:50.030
I didn't do what I normally do. Pause. You know,

00:42:50.070 --> 00:42:51.570
does it need to be said now? Does it need to

00:42:51.570 --> 00:42:54.389
be said by Steve? None of that. You know, and

00:42:54.389 --> 00:42:56.730
I didn't pause and he goes, well, how can you

00:42:56.730 --> 00:42:58.909
just let something go? I go, because I still

00:42:58.909 --> 00:43:01.670
come from the mind of a drug addict. You know,

00:43:01.750 --> 00:43:04.349
I still have to work at this every day. Like

00:43:04.349 --> 00:43:06.369
my oldest son said to me when we had a small

00:43:06.369 --> 00:43:08.570
little disagreement, he goes, just because you're

00:43:08.570 --> 00:43:10.150
sober, that doesn't mean you still don't have

00:43:10.150 --> 00:43:13.210
those isms. And I go, you're right. So and then

00:43:13.210 --> 00:43:15.309
I look back and I'm like, one hundred and twenty

00:43:15.309 --> 00:43:18.750
six rush shows and, you know, about sixty five

00:43:18.750 --> 00:43:21.230
live shows. And you couldn't just like like the

00:43:21.230 --> 00:43:22.949
band. You had to become friends with the band,

00:43:23.030 --> 00:43:25.269
both bands. You've been to Pittsburgh, a hundred

00:43:25.269 --> 00:43:27.309
and like my next show, one hundred and ten. And

00:43:27.309 --> 00:43:29.250
I've tried to I've been friends over the years

00:43:29.250 --> 00:43:31.809
with and we don't hang out. But Mario Lemieux

00:43:31.809 --> 00:43:34.650
is someone I became friends with. Sidney Crosby.

00:43:35.030 --> 00:43:37.329
And that's kind of like addict behavior. You

00:43:37.329 --> 00:43:39.929
know, I know it's passion. Yeah. But today I

00:43:39.929 --> 00:43:43.380
can sit back and go, hmm. You know, so like if

00:43:43.380 --> 00:43:45.840
I'm dating someone, I could think about something

00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:49.460
like jealousy and say, hey Steve, you didn't

00:43:49.460 --> 00:43:51.639
have plans with this girl tonight. And if you're

00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:53.739
jealous because someone else took her out, you

00:43:53.739 --> 00:43:57.280
know, don't make your problem her problem. Something

00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:00.119
that I couldn't do when my mind wasn't healthy,

00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:02.579
you know what I mean? And I gotta tell you this

00:44:02.579 --> 00:44:05.539
too, my youngest son, he's like that, I think

00:44:05.539 --> 00:44:07.960
I got a problem. I go, well, when you drink and

00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:10.789
you stop, he goes, not really. I've been drinking,

00:44:11.110 --> 00:44:13.730
smoking, I've done a little coke. So my 21 -year

00:44:13.730 --> 00:44:16.809
-old son is four months clean and sober himself.

00:44:17.010 --> 00:44:21.289
Good for him, man. That's a great age to catch

00:44:21.289 --> 00:44:23.489
yourself starting to slip, too, because it just

00:44:23.489 --> 00:44:25.489
becomes such a steeper slope after a minute.

00:44:26.339 --> 00:44:28.059
You know, you're 21, you're thinking, oh, I'm

00:44:28.059 --> 00:44:30.480
just partying and partying, but yeah, that's

00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:32.760
how it is. Yeah, I got sober at 48. I can't,

00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:34.940
I'm in a meeting with these young cats. I don't

00:44:34.940 --> 00:44:36.980
know how they could like, but God bless them.

00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:39.119
I said, if you could do it, everyone I know that

00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:41.920
got sober at that age has a fantastic life today.

00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:45.150
Right. Right. So I got to shut up and let you

00:44:45.150 --> 00:44:47.590
guys talk because I could talk. Well, Steve,

00:44:47.690 --> 00:44:49.949
I want to ask you this. Is your son there? Can

00:44:49.949 --> 00:44:53.110
he share like that trailer that you sent me?

00:44:53.170 --> 00:44:55.489
Because I really want the audience to see it

00:44:55.489 --> 00:44:58.269
while on the show. If he can. Sometimes you got

00:44:58.269 --> 00:45:00.989
to click share and then click the little share

00:45:00.989 --> 00:45:03.909
with sound button at the bottom left. So I have

00:45:03.909 --> 00:45:07.679
to ask Rocky because Kevin was like. Got a meeting

00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:09.699
with a Hollywood executive about this movie at

00:45:09.699 --> 00:45:11.460
the same time as the podcast I'm like, well,

00:45:11.460 --> 00:45:13.280
I'm gonna go out without you but Rocky's here

00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.820
Let me throw the cans on rock and see if he can

00:45:15.820 --> 00:45:20.800
answer that. Hold on a second. Sure Rod is up

00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:22.579
gentleman. Yes. I did not hear any of that question

00:45:22.579 --> 00:45:24.500
because he's got the headphones on so yeah, but

00:45:24.500 --> 00:45:26.500
yeah good to be here What's up? Good to have

00:45:26.500 --> 00:45:28.780
you on man. Thanks for setting up your dad. Of

00:45:28.780 --> 00:45:32.659
course if you could please Share some of the

00:45:32.659 --> 00:45:35.380
trailers that you and your brother made or your

00:45:35.380 --> 00:45:37.900
but I'm not sure who yeah Yeah. And then if you

00:45:37.900 --> 00:45:39.739
click that little share, I think when you go

00:45:39.739 --> 00:45:41.480
to share, it'll say at the bottom left. Yeah,

00:45:41.500 --> 00:45:43.280
I know how to do it. I got you. Thank you. Cool.

00:45:43.980 --> 00:45:45.659
Yeah. Just keep some conversation flowing because

00:45:45.659 --> 00:45:46.920
I'm going to have to like send myself a link

00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:49.059
for my phone because the main movie that we're

00:45:49.059 --> 00:45:51.239
working on right now, the trailer is not out

00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:53.199
and we don't have anything out yet because we

00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:55.179
got to wait for copywriting and film festivals

00:45:55.179 --> 00:45:57.820
to approve it because they do. They want world

00:45:57.820 --> 00:45:59.139
premieres, so they don't really like posting

00:45:59.139 --> 00:46:00.519
any of it, but this is fine to share it on here.

00:46:00.539 --> 00:46:01.820
So, yeah, just run some conversation and I'll

00:46:01.820 --> 00:46:04.840
get that set up. Absolutely. Uh, so that's exciting.

00:46:05.179 --> 00:46:07.780
Um, again, audience you're in for a treat. These,

00:46:07.860 --> 00:46:11.199
uh, these Sabo's got some beautiful production,

00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:14.239
beautiful, uh, acting well written. It's just,

00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:18.019
it's put together great, uh, to see it, uh, you

00:46:18.019 --> 00:46:20.260
know, for an independent, uh, releases like that.

00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:21.880
I mean, it doesn't get much better than this

00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:24.179
and I'm a big critic when it comes to watching

00:46:24.179 --> 00:46:26.539
stuff like this held my attention. This made

00:46:26.539 --> 00:46:29.239
me interested. So, uh, we're in for a treat.

00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:31.719
And we could have posted the link afterwards,

00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:33.880
but I think it's fun to do on the show and like

00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:36.840
comment as we're going. Steve, I love the shirt,

00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:40.420
man. Is that is that a new live shirt or is that

00:46:40.420 --> 00:46:44.800
from old school? All right. So I don't know if

00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:47.639
it's the age or the drugs, but sometimes my memory

00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:54.480
shot. It's fairly new off the site. So, you know,

00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:58.039
I saw what's going on now and from front row

00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:00.780
recently and So because I'm such a supporter

00:47:00.780 --> 00:47:04.119
of Chad's, I was like, yeah. But I was entertained

00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:06.380
and it was really cool that when the lights went

00:47:06.380 --> 00:47:10.860
up, you know, Ed saw me and he walked right up

00:47:10.860 --> 00:47:12.639
and shook my hands and said, hey, thanks for

00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:14.780
coming here. And then he and then he started

00:47:14.780 --> 00:47:17.300
the show. And then when it ended, he did it again.

00:47:17.820 --> 00:47:20.119
And that meant the world to me, because for years

00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:22.079
watching him and even though I'm a drummer, I

00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:25.179
love frontman. My son, Kevin, was literally like.

00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:27.139
Well, you look at it and he knows, you know,

00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:28.719
but he I go, he's one of those guys that gets

00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:31.340
into his music so much like that crazy guitar

00:47:31.340 --> 00:47:33.420
player just feels that he doesn't really see

00:47:33.420 --> 00:47:35.820
anyone. Right. But I guess as we get older, you

00:47:35.820 --> 00:47:37.380
know, you just get more humble and you're glad

00:47:37.380 --> 00:47:41.119
people are there. So that was awesome. Zach Lloyd

00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:43.079
is a friend and I and I love him and listen,

00:47:43.260 --> 00:47:46.280
everyone did a good job. And I don't really want

00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:48.260
to get into stuff that's none of my business.

00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:51.199
Hopefully somewhere down the line, I could see.

00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:54.139
Chad Jam with them, but you know, that's something

00:47:54.139 --> 00:47:56.239
that you guys could discuss. I do want to bring

00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:57.920
up something real quick. Chad, do you remember

00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:02.760
that last show from Springfield? I think it was

00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:04.460
one of the last shows you guys played together.

00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:09.199
It was Springfield, Massachusetts. Not off the

00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:11.400
top of my head, but. I love it. You played so

00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:13.800
many shows. It's great. Anyway, I remember talking

00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:16.219
to you and I said I asked you if those sticks

00:48:16.219 --> 00:48:18.780
were exclusive to you and you're like, no, you

00:48:18.780 --> 00:48:21.110
should try them because. I would either wrap

00:48:21.110 --> 00:48:24.869
my Pro Mark 747s, I used like Neil Peart sticks,

00:48:25.309 --> 00:48:28.309
and I'd get cramps and it'd fly out of my hands.

00:48:28.550 --> 00:48:31.269
And after 30 years, I switched to those sticks

00:48:31.269 --> 00:48:33.070
and they're awesome. They're awesome. They're

00:48:33.070 --> 00:48:36.869
great. Yeah, they really are. And I don't really

00:48:36.869 --> 00:48:38.909
like chains, but I kind of was like, listen.

00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:42.019
You need that because it helps you. You know,

00:48:42.019 --> 00:48:43.420
I don't want there's nothing worse than sticks

00:48:43.420 --> 00:48:45.480
flying out of your hand. Can we grab and recover?

00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:47.980
Absolutely. But that was like a game changer

00:48:47.980 --> 00:48:49.980
for me when I discovered those pro marks started

00:48:49.980 --> 00:48:52.739
making them. I guess it's called active grip

00:48:52.739 --> 00:48:55.039
or something like that. But and conveniently,

00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:57.300
it's cool and black. So I was like, oh, black

00:48:57.300 --> 00:48:59.679
sticks. And they just, you know, they just kind

00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:01.840
of mold your hand once they get a little warm.

00:49:02.179 --> 00:49:04.440
I thought it was going to ruin the symbols and

00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:07.099
like leave black marks, but they didn't. No,

00:49:07.260 --> 00:49:09.469
it doesn't. Yeah, and I don't know if I would

00:49:09.469 --> 00:49:12.510
play barefoot though because That's a little

00:49:12.510 --> 00:49:15.250
crazy. That's how I grew up and but it's funny

00:49:15.250 --> 00:49:18.230
like my whole career like I Wouldn't wash my

00:49:18.230 --> 00:49:20.449
hands all day because if I wash my hands it would

00:49:20.449 --> 00:49:22.809
get slippery Yeah, go on stage in the fucking

00:49:22.809 --> 00:49:24.889
stand my I get my hands will get tired because

00:49:24.889 --> 00:49:27.309
they were slipping out of my hands Oh, wow, so

00:49:27.309 --> 00:49:30.909
I would never wash my hands, but now You're like

00:49:30.909 --> 00:49:33.590
I'm washing my hands. They're not all dirty I'm

00:49:33.590 --> 00:49:35.409
thinking about all the times I shook your hands

00:49:35.409 --> 00:49:37.809
now. That's right. They were never washed. Yeah.

00:49:37.949 --> 00:49:40.150
What was left on those? I mean, it was like that

00:49:40.150 --> 00:49:42.809
wasn't all day, but like a few hours before the

00:49:42.809 --> 00:49:44.849
show, at least you just build up natural oils

00:49:44.849 --> 00:49:47.409
and stuff. Right. What should help you, you know,

00:49:47.489 --> 00:49:50.289
grip the sticks, but yeah, that was a game changer

00:49:50.289 --> 00:49:53.449
for him. Love you. Have you, uh, I'm sure you

00:49:53.449 --> 00:49:55.769
have because you, uh, did lightning crashes in

00:49:55.769 --> 00:49:58.590
that one tune, but, uh, w what is one of the

00:49:58.590 --> 00:50:00.869
harder songs you covered that, uh, Chad Chad

00:50:00.869 --> 00:50:05.239
wrote on the drums. I remember, I think, saying

00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:10.059
to him, that rotating thing you do with the ride

00:50:10.059 --> 00:50:12.820
and the snare and everything on, what was it,

00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.820
Shit Town, I could never do. Oh, yeah. You're

00:50:15.820 --> 00:50:17.900
really fluent with your hand. The funny thing

00:50:17.900 --> 00:50:20.980
is I never learned any basic rudiments. Me either.

00:50:22.260 --> 00:50:28.039
Yeah, but even on Ghost, I kind of got to do

00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:29.719
different things than you do to get the same

00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:32.059
sound. Right now, we just... And I used to play

00:50:32.059 --> 00:50:33.760
it. We learned the bikinis juice. I haven't played

00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:36.119
it in years. And and I'm like playing it. I'm

00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:37.659
like that part where you go up to the top and

00:50:37.659 --> 00:50:40.360
I'm just like and then I know you. I'm not a

00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:42.980
big guy who likes to ride on a crash. And then

00:50:42.980 --> 00:50:45.280
I keep it. So I say to myself, I'm like, dude,

00:50:46.139 --> 00:50:48.739
nobody notices certain things that aren't. I

00:50:48.739 --> 00:50:50.860
don't have to play it exactly like any of the

00:50:50.860 --> 00:50:52.940
drummers. And I've watched you do covers as well.

00:50:53.260 --> 00:50:55.519
And then it just makes my life easier when I

00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:58.199
back away from that. But when it when bands like

00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:01.420
I play some rush in front of a crowd, not much.

00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:03.059
But, you know, like everyone's going to stand

00:51:03.059 --> 00:51:04.659
there like this, all the drummers. And I don't

00:51:04.659 --> 00:51:09.139
know that kind of criticism. So I saw an old

00:51:09.139 --> 00:51:11.739
video of me playing Iris, which is a great fun

00:51:11.739 --> 00:51:15.260
song to play. My favorite way to play is two

00:51:15.260 --> 00:51:18.559
hands on the high hat and rotate that way. I

00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:21.840
love and we talked about backstage one day about.

00:51:22.689 --> 00:51:25.289
playing pain. And I'm like, dude, I go and borrow

00:51:25.289 --> 00:51:27.010
maraca. And then I'm like, I don't think anyone

00:51:27.010 --> 00:51:28.630
can hear it. It looks cool. And I'm like, how

00:51:28.630 --> 00:51:29.889
do you get the mic goes? Oh, there's a little

00:51:29.889 --> 00:51:32.849
mic in it. Ah, Mike, there's a little mic on

00:51:32.849 --> 00:51:35.070
it. Yeah, Mike got it right. So, you know, I'm

00:51:35.070 --> 00:51:37.789
like, here I am doing it. I got my youngest son

00:51:37.789 --> 00:51:40.010
holding a mic to it. I'm like, that just gets

00:51:40.010 --> 00:51:44.150
rid of the coolness of the whole thing. So, but

00:51:44.150 --> 00:51:46.909
so that's the first song I ever heard. I was

00:51:46.909 --> 00:51:50.349
it was 1990. I think I don't know. I think I

00:51:50.349 --> 00:51:52.510
was 20 and I heard Pain Lies on the Riverside.

00:51:52.809 --> 00:51:55.610
And honestly, it was Patrick's bass that made

00:51:55.610 --> 00:51:58.590
me go, yeah, who's this? Yeah. And of course,

00:51:58.690 --> 00:52:01.670
the bands I started playing with, you know, you

00:52:01.670 --> 00:52:03.329
got to have a good bass player to play that.

00:52:04.210 --> 00:52:06.230
And Patrick's certainly no slouch. I think he's

00:52:06.230 --> 00:52:10.039
a great bass player. Absolutely. And funny enough,

00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:12.760
my singer, I went in to see a band play and I'm

00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:14.599
like, Oh my God, this dude's playing some live.

00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:16.059
And I go, I thought I was the only one. So I

00:52:16.059 --> 00:52:17.900
introduced myself and then I eventually stole

00:52:17.900 --> 00:52:22.400
him from his band. So just like Rush, I've met

00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:26.380
so many lifelong friends, 20, 30 year friendship

00:52:26.380 --> 00:52:30.960
because of your band. Wow. And because of, I

00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:32.659
mean, but like music brings people together,

00:52:32.659 --> 00:52:34.420
right? It's so just like sporting events, but

00:52:34.420 --> 00:52:37.699
there's something special about music. But yeah,

00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:40.920
and I did. I do get my balls broken sometimes.

00:52:41.539 --> 00:52:44.679
Some of the crazier drummers that are into like

00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:47.280
thrash and just, you know, heavy stuff. What's

00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:50.219
so special about this Gracie dude? Like, I just

00:52:50.219 --> 00:52:53.860
like how solid he is, man. And and I don't you

00:52:53.860 --> 00:52:55.780
probably don't remember because you see a lot

00:52:55.780 --> 00:52:58.579
of nut jobs like me. But on the distance to hear

00:52:58.579 --> 00:53:00.860
tour, I sat in the front row with my bandmates

00:53:00.860 --> 00:53:04.619
and I went and made up a shirt and it says Gracie's

00:53:04.619 --> 00:53:08.730
God on it. Oh, cool. I remember Taylor looking

00:53:08.730 --> 00:53:11.050
at it and he's pointing and he turns and you're

00:53:11.050 --> 00:53:13.030
like nodding your head like, I see him. I see

00:53:13.030 --> 00:53:17.630
him, you know. So I don't know. I just I just

00:53:17.630 --> 00:53:20.369
said that. Yeah. And it's a little little over

00:53:20.369 --> 00:53:24.170
the top. But yeah, again, like, you know, I love

00:53:24.170 --> 00:53:26.190
Neil Peart and I could play some of his stuff,

00:53:26.210 --> 00:53:30.769
but I identify with you a lot more. And I don't

00:53:30.769 --> 00:53:33.070
know, just in the coolest part about live is

00:53:33.070 --> 00:53:36.750
I loved every member. and everything they represented.

00:53:36.989 --> 00:53:40.590
Yeah. And just like the fans, too, I took the

00:53:40.590 --> 00:53:42.989
highs and lows, you know, with you guys. I'm

00:53:42.989 --> 00:53:45.389
like, damn, you know, I'd love to like how lucky

00:53:45.389 --> 00:53:47.789
was I to have Rush for four decades, you know,

00:53:47.789 --> 00:53:50.869
up until Neil's death, all the 19 studio albums.

00:53:51.349 --> 00:53:54.269
It was so damn lucky. And and then I think the

00:53:54.269 --> 00:53:55.949
last time I actually was at a concert with all

00:53:55.949 --> 00:53:58.989
three of my sons was at Jones Beach when you

00:53:58.989 --> 00:54:02.530
guys were with Our Lady Peace and Bush and. And

00:54:02.530 --> 00:54:05.250
I just I remember taking a picture and I told

00:54:05.250 --> 00:54:07.210
that I go, you know, I'm so used to being up

00:54:07.210 --> 00:54:09.869
front that as an older man, I like being in the

00:54:09.869 --> 00:54:12.369
last. So we went to the last row, especially

00:54:12.369 --> 00:54:14.909
in that play. I know it's it's still considered

00:54:14.909 --> 00:54:17.230
a shed, but it doesn't have a roof. And I just

00:54:17.230 --> 00:54:19.349
love looking at the production. And I took a

00:54:19.349 --> 00:54:22.130
picture of me and my boys and I put it on Facebook.

00:54:22.250 --> 00:54:24.630
And I love changing the lyrics to Likini's. It

00:54:24.630 --> 00:54:28.829
was an evening I spent with my sons. That's cool.

00:54:28.989 --> 00:54:32.710
Yeah. So. Yeah. So, Rock, are you ready to put

00:54:32.710 --> 00:54:35.110
that on? All right. So you want to put you said

00:54:35.110 --> 00:54:37.710
I'm going to slide it back over to Rocky. Sweet.

00:54:38.690 --> 00:54:43.969
Rocky, Rocky is OK. So I got to lean over because

00:54:43.969 --> 00:54:45.789
the setup's a little odd on the computer. You

00:54:45.789 --> 00:54:47.610
want to do this, Rocky? Let the audience know

00:54:47.610 --> 00:54:50.489
what we're about to watch. Yeah. So before I

00:54:50.489 --> 00:54:53.679
screen share. So my brothers and I have two feature

00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:56.280
films under our belt. We used our first one called

00:54:56.280 --> 00:54:58.880
The Opener as like resume material. We did it

00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:01.539
on our own budget, doing nine to fives. And I

00:55:01.539 --> 00:55:03.519
think we made the whole movie on three or $4

00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:07.679
,000. And we used this movie to send out to possible

00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:09.780
investors and try to bring an investment for

00:55:09.780 --> 00:55:12.599
another film. And then we got a $50 ,000 investment

00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:15.000
for a film that we wanted to go horror, because

00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:18.000
horror is the easiest industry to sell a film

00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:20.539
in for independent films. Horror sells independently

00:55:20.539 --> 00:55:24.320
like crazy. So we made a film about an Uber driver

00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:28.599
that kills people. The same way that the ring

00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:31.579
target like the ring made you scared of the TV

00:55:31.579 --> 00:55:34.539
it made like a real life thing scary to people

00:55:34.539 --> 00:55:38.400
and I guess our target audience for this is to

00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:40.880
scare is like college girls so all they do is

00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:43.199
they go out to the bars and they get an uber

00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:45.199
and they're tanked and there's been some stories

00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:48.179
in the news about it so basically there's a Uber

00:55:48.179 --> 00:55:50.920
driver that is killing people. And then my brother,

00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:53.119
Kevin, who's also my brother in the movie, he

00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:54.880
works a job he hates. He's an Uber driver and

00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:57.219
he gets pinned for all these murders because

00:55:57.219 --> 00:55:58.400
they don't know what's going on. The movie is

00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:00.420
called rerouting and it is going to be coming

00:56:00.420 --> 00:56:03.619
out in twenty twenty three. So I love it. For

00:56:03.619 --> 00:56:06.320
those who don't know, Rocky owns Lyft. So that's

00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:08.380
why it's an Uber driver and not a Lyft driver.

00:56:09.019 --> 00:56:14.079
Yeah. So let me screen share real quick. That's

00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:17.920
a great idea. And actually it's awesome. Yeah,

00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:19.579
totally awesome. I guess it makes sense to that

00:56:19.579 --> 00:56:22.260
the horror genre is an easier one to break into

00:56:22.260 --> 00:56:23.900
well the whole time We're growing up. We're told

00:56:23.900 --> 00:56:25.820
you know, don't go with hitchhikers now. It's

00:56:25.820 --> 00:56:27.260
like that's just commonplace That's literally

00:56:27.260 --> 00:56:30.320
what we do all the time now, right? Right. Yep

00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:33.179
Alright, so let me get this full screen for everybody.

00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:36.440
Can you guys see it? Yes, sir. Yes Let's see

00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:37.880
if I can go like that. You guys can see you still

00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:42.659
see it. Yep. Yes, sir and then Audio should be

00:56:42.659 --> 00:56:45.900
good. This is our rerouting trailer. Awesome

00:56:46.429 --> 00:56:50.130
Can you guys hear it? I don't have sound. Let

00:56:50.130 --> 00:56:55.809
me see if it's not through here. Screen sharing

00:56:55.809 --> 00:56:59.230
now? Share audio? It's possible. You want me

00:56:59.230 --> 00:57:02.769
to stop the sharing, then you try that out? Anything

00:57:02.769 --> 00:57:05.869
yet or no? No, there was no sound again. I tried

00:57:05.869 --> 00:57:08.110
to read so you could re -share and click that

00:57:08.110 --> 00:57:10.590
sound button if that was the case. We always

00:57:10.590 --> 00:57:13.670
have issues with it, so it's probably on a different

00:57:13.670 --> 00:57:16.510
end. Oh, wait. Yeah, no time no was no sound

00:57:16.510 --> 00:57:21.489
again sound I tried that I Think it's it's probably

00:57:21.489 --> 00:57:23.389
it's probably just a zoom thing because I don't

00:57:23.389 --> 00:57:25.969
know if zooms able to share audio through a feed

00:57:25.969 --> 00:57:30.349
Unless I can change the mic real quick input

00:57:30.349 --> 00:57:34.059
built -in microphone internal mic I think it's

00:57:34.059 --> 00:57:37.139
my soundboard. I have a chat way to come to have

00:57:37.139 --> 00:57:38.840
the sound come through and then the USB to way

00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:40.400
to sound come through. But for some reason, when

00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:43.380
I turn up the chat only, it starts showing up.

00:57:43.619 --> 00:57:45.880
Oh, you know, wait a second. I just changed my

00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:47.320
microphone, so let me try one more time. If it

00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:49.920
doesn't play, then you can try what you're trying.

00:57:55.179 --> 00:57:57.280
I think I figured it out there, Rocky. I got

00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:00.639
something playing. Let me try this. And then

00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:03.449
you should be able to. Okay, now we should be

00:58:03.449 --> 00:58:07.989
able to hear it click play. I'm sorry Any audio

00:58:07.989 --> 00:58:16.789
Nothing audio no Yeah, it's all right All right

00:58:16.789 --> 00:58:21.829
audience. That's my bad If you guys want you

00:58:21.829 --> 00:58:24.869
can just look up rerouting on We're pushing it

00:58:24.869 --> 00:58:26.710
a lot on tik -tok and on our social medias if

00:58:26.710 --> 00:58:28.489
you want to go to any of our social medias Rocky

00:58:28.489 --> 00:58:31.539
Savo Kevin Savo on Instagram, Facebook, any of

00:58:31.539 --> 00:58:33.300
those platforms, you can check it out. Sorry

00:58:33.300 --> 00:58:35.179
we couldn't play it for you today, but yeah,

00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:37.460
we worked our tails off on it and it's supposed

00:58:37.460 --> 00:58:40.139
to be coming out in 2023. And that is my full

00:58:40.139 --> 00:58:42.440
audience. I will, and you know what I'll do Rocky,

00:58:42.579 --> 00:58:44.519
I'll post links on our social so people can check

00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:47.159
it out too, because I'm telling you guys, these

00:58:47.159 --> 00:58:50.239
gentlemen really are on to something. I wouldn't

00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:52.099
just say that to you, you know, I don't bullshit,

00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:55.059
even though we do put the shit in bullshit. I

00:58:55.059 --> 00:58:58.340
was really impressed. It looked professional.

00:58:58.519 --> 00:58:59.719
It looked like it was done by, you know, with

00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:05.199
a big budget. And the actors, I was very, I guess,

00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:07.679
surprised that you found independent actors that

00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:11.199
were that good. So it's definitely worth checking

00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:13.699
out. Yeah, we did some casting in New York and

00:59:13.699 --> 00:59:15.340
we had a casting agent come in because with the

00:59:15.340 --> 00:59:19.199
bigger budget, we were able to do more. But yeah,

00:59:19.500 --> 00:59:21.119
the process came together. We were able to bring

00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:25.380
in actors from California. North Carolina, New

00:59:25.380 --> 00:59:28.500
York, and I think one was from like Philadelphia

00:59:28.500 --> 00:59:31.679
or something. But the casting came together really

00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:34.659
great and the experience we had from that first

00:59:34.659 --> 00:59:36.840
film definitely like carried over into making

00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:39.300
this one what it was. Nice. And it could only

00:59:39.300 --> 00:59:41.340
get better from here, man. Congrats on that.

00:59:41.880 --> 00:59:44.280
Thank you so much. My pleasure. What are you

00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:47.760
on Instagram, Rocky? It's Rocky, R -O -C -K -Y,

00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:52.809
Savo, S -A -V -O, 5 -1. Oh, 5 -1. What's the

00:59:52.809 --> 00:59:55.070
five one? That is my hockey number. And that's

00:59:55.070 --> 00:59:56.369
the number that he wore when he played hockey.

00:59:56.670 --> 01:00:01.710
So nice. Like father, like son, rock on. I'm

01:00:01.710 --> 01:00:05.610
following. Cool. The Chad Gracie is following.

01:00:05.769 --> 01:00:09.889
You just remember the hashtag Chad. Yeah, that's

01:00:09.889 --> 01:00:13.230
crazy. The Chad Gracie was Chad Gracie taking

01:00:13.230 --> 01:00:15.250
Chad and you went with the Chad Gracie or was

01:00:15.250 --> 01:00:18.269
that just your original thought? I don't know

01:00:18.269 --> 01:00:23.329
that Chad Gracie might. I don't remember. I kind

01:00:23.329 --> 01:00:27.090
of copied, uh, I kind of copied Matt, uh, uh,

01:00:27.170 --> 01:00:30.789
Matt from sound guard. Ah, he was, he's the Matt.

01:00:31.010 --> 01:00:32.510
Oh, that's his last name. I can't remember his

01:00:32.510 --> 01:00:35.750
last name. Not Cameron's from camera. Thank you.

01:00:35.750 --> 01:00:37.670
He was the Matt Cameron. I'm like, I'm the Chad

01:00:37.670 --> 01:00:41.190
Gracie. I love it. Who has, who has cooler initials

01:00:41.190 --> 01:00:44.889
than you tag or cage or how CAG, those are like,

01:00:44.889 --> 01:00:52.079
uh, legendary. Yes, CAG. Put it on the sticks.

01:00:53.139 --> 01:00:57.559
Yes. Steve, my apologies about that, that I couldn't

01:00:57.559 --> 01:01:00.699
pull up those videos, but he sent me a bunch

01:01:00.699 --> 01:01:02.619
of, he's got pictures with you, Chad, from back

01:01:02.619 --> 01:01:05.619
in the day, pictures with Ed. I think he was

01:01:05.619 --> 01:01:07.699
at an Adam Kowalczyk show. What was that, Ben?

01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:12.659
Was it allow or allow? Hello, Adam said he got

01:01:12.659 --> 01:01:15.699
that from by mixing letters in his last name.

01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:18.679
I think he went back to Adam and the weight though,

01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:24.219
but yeah, we become good friends, you know. I

01:01:24.219 --> 01:01:25.860
changed your mic. I figured it out by the way,

01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:27.480
if you guys want to try one more time, but I

01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:29.659
like to give them the mic. Let's do it. Try one

01:01:29.659 --> 01:01:32.099
more time. Yeah, there's a little button that

01:01:32.099 --> 01:01:36.340
says share audio with screen. Share sound. Okay,

01:01:36.340 --> 01:01:38.969
I got it. Cool. I knew there was something. A

01:01:38.969 --> 01:01:43.530
little quick Google look. Um, password B -I -T

01:01:43.530 --> 01:01:48.070
-T -U -S. B -E -A -U -T -E -F -A -L. See, I told

01:01:48.070 --> 01:01:49.710
you, audience, we would figure it out one day.

01:01:49.750 --> 01:01:52.530
We just needed the one and only Rocky. Just like

01:01:52.530 --> 01:01:54.829
when we get there, that's when we made it. All

01:01:54.829 --> 01:01:56.829
right. Let me know if this worked. Yes, sir.

01:01:58.170 --> 01:02:10.170
Yes. There you go. Two women reported missing

01:02:10.170 --> 01:02:12.429
by their families. Both used a rideshare app

01:02:12.429 --> 01:02:15.730
to call for a ride home. Both had the same driver.

01:02:20.710 --> 01:02:24.070
No. It isn't your job to come here and talk to

01:02:24.070 --> 01:02:26.130
the family, right? I don't want them hearing

01:02:26.130 --> 01:02:28.789
this from you. Did you hear about those girls?

01:02:31.989 --> 01:02:33.489
Yeah, I've seen the missing posters, if that's

01:02:33.489 --> 01:02:36.550
what you're talking about, but... That's about

01:02:36.550 --> 01:02:38.510
all I know. I can't even remember the last time

01:02:38.510 --> 01:02:40.929
I saw you in the daylight. You driving tonight?

01:02:41.110 --> 01:02:43.630
All you do is drive. Come back to bed for a few

01:02:43.630 --> 01:03:04.210
hours and then you can drive. Oh boy. Is there

01:03:04.210 --> 01:03:06.420
a problem? Get out the car. I didn't do anything.

01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:07.679
I'm driving the speed limit. Shut up and let

01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:10.760
him do his job. I drive for an app. I spend all

01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:16.820
night picking people up worth. Have you lost

01:03:16.820 --> 01:03:19.199
your mind? I haven't lost my mind. I'm being

01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:21.119
framed. We need this whole town rested a lot

01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:26.139
easier than what's taking place right now. There's

01:03:26.139 --> 01:03:31.679
a killer out there. Some sick fuck snatching

01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:38.190
up girls in the middle of the night. You try

01:03:38.190 --> 01:03:41.730
not to get emotionally involved. But that's like

01:03:41.730 --> 01:03:43.309
fooling yourself into thinking that you're a

01:03:43.309 --> 01:04:30.289
human. Sir, can you please pull over the car?

01:04:31.929 --> 01:04:38.110
Dude. Nice. That's great. That is sick. I mean,

01:04:38.789 --> 01:04:40.650
am I, am I correct to your audience for those

01:04:40.650 --> 01:04:42.829
out there? That is absolutely phenomenal. That

01:04:42.829 --> 01:04:46.710
trailer, the soundtrack to it, the acting. That

01:04:46.710 --> 01:04:50.050
guy, that Uber driver is creepy as fuck, man.

01:04:52.329 --> 01:04:57.050
That is filmed. I'm impressed. Oh, yeah. Thank

01:04:57.050 --> 01:05:00.150
you so much, dude. So, John, I think somewhere

01:05:00.150 --> 01:05:02.170
down the road, you should probably like have

01:05:02.170 --> 01:05:04.170
Kevin on because like I'm disappointed he's in

01:05:04.170 --> 01:05:07.039
the other room, but. You know, you could probably

01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:10.139
do a whole show with him and not just about movies,

01:05:10.380 --> 01:05:13.360
because Kevin's got a million shows, stories

01:05:13.360 --> 01:05:16.400
about being on the road with me, live shows,

01:05:16.539 --> 01:05:19.219
rush shows, Iron Maiden. I mean, he's in Guitar

01:05:19.219 --> 01:05:21.480
World magazine with Van Halen when we were with

01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:25.260
Van Halen for a week. Rock on. Yeah. So somewhere

01:05:25.260 --> 01:05:27.650
down the line when you need a guest. Yeah, we're

01:05:27.650 --> 01:05:29.690
down to have him on. We're down to have the brothers

01:05:29.690 --> 01:05:32.050
on together, both on separately. I'm down with

01:05:32.050 --> 01:05:35.130
the Sabo family for sure. I'm a fan. Kevrock

01:05:35.130 --> 01:05:37.570
Entertainment is a company I started when Kevin

01:05:37.570 --> 01:05:40.650
and Rocky were first born. So I was going to

01:05:40.650 --> 01:05:42.530
name Mark when he was born. We're all so it could

01:05:42.530 --> 01:05:44.809
be Kevrock and Roll. But my wife said we're not

01:05:44.809 --> 01:05:50.130
naming him Roll. So then, you know, when I kind

01:05:50.130 --> 01:05:52.230
of like lost my way and wasn't doing anything

01:05:52.230 --> 01:05:55.829
as a booking agent. They took the name and got

01:05:55.829 --> 01:05:57.989
an LLC together and now Kevrock Entertainment

01:05:57.989 --> 01:06:00.809
is more of a like a movie production company

01:06:00.809 --> 01:06:05.150
and whatever they want it to be. You know what's

01:06:05.150 --> 01:06:07.929
cool is I watch from a distance now. I'm glad

01:06:07.929 --> 01:06:10.329
I'm not that stage dad who gets in the way because

01:06:10.329 --> 01:06:13.090
I'm just thrilled to be alive and just watch

01:06:13.090 --> 01:06:15.110
them work, you know. I was going to say, don't

01:06:15.110 --> 01:06:17.329
don't get in their way, man. They are creatively

01:06:17.329 --> 01:06:19.570
on point right now. So let them let them rock

01:06:19.570 --> 01:06:21.869
and roll. Not to you. They figured out he figured

01:06:21.869 --> 01:06:24.849
out the audio. So I can't I can't mess with that.

01:06:25.010 --> 01:06:27.090
Thank you for that, Rocky. Well, yeah, Rock.

01:06:27.230 --> 01:06:29.130
I mean, we would love to have you and your brother

01:06:29.130 --> 01:06:32.309
on again. You know, if Kevin wants to come on

01:06:32.309 --> 01:06:34.510
by himself solo, that's fine, too. But we'd love

01:06:34.510 --> 01:06:36.769
to have you both on. Yeah, we would love to.

01:06:37.090 --> 01:06:38.610
And Kevin can definitely talk about drumming,

01:06:38.710 --> 01:06:41.269
too, because he's the only one out of the sons

01:06:41.269 --> 01:06:44.570
that like took drumming from him. And because

01:06:44.570 --> 01:06:46.849
I got the hockey from him and my little brother

01:06:46.849 --> 01:06:49.809
just does whatever the fuck he does, but um Basically,

01:06:49.829 --> 01:06:53.099
I I don't even think he's told you so When we

01:06:53.099 --> 01:06:56.219
were doing hip hop, we would do shows that would

01:06:56.219 --> 01:06:59.820
be tied into his shows early on, and no older

01:06:59.820 --> 01:07:01.760
rock band really wants to hear our kind of style

01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:04.760
of music. And it wasn't anything super bad or

01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:07.500
whatever the case may be. But he really liked

01:07:07.500 --> 01:07:09.480
the fact that he can go out and do shows like

01:07:09.480 --> 01:07:12.579
he did. He's starting a cover band right now

01:07:12.579 --> 01:07:14.159
where he's drumming, and all they're going to

01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:17.840
do is tailor to the female market. So they're

01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:20.860
just going to really rockify every famous chick

01:07:20.860 --> 01:07:24.510
song, I guess. Taylor Swift. Yeah, no, literally.

01:07:24.650 --> 01:07:26.190
But like, that's his play and it's going to be

01:07:26.190 --> 01:07:28.969
him and like three other girls. And he's killing

01:07:28.969 --> 01:07:33.690
it. Yeah. Another brilliant idea. Him and three

01:07:33.690 --> 01:07:36.889
hot girls doing chick songs. Let's go. I'm a

01:07:36.889 --> 01:07:39.369
fan already. I'm coming. Have them play in a

01:07:39.369 --> 01:07:42.630
bikini. I'm really even they're more including

01:07:42.630 --> 01:07:44.289
your brother. Make sure he's in bikini, too,

01:07:44.289 --> 01:07:47.230
because there you go. Absolutely. So Kevin has

01:07:47.230 --> 01:07:50.719
been on. Yeah, he would probably do it. Kevin's

01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:54.099
been on stage with me since he was nine. Just

01:07:54.099 --> 01:07:56.139
I used to sing one song and my singer would play

01:07:56.139 --> 01:07:59.019
the drums. I would do like rock and roll all

01:07:59.019 --> 01:08:01.219
night from kiss. And it was more of a novelty

01:08:01.219 --> 01:08:02.639
like, oh, the chubby drummer is going to get

01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:04.639
up and sing. Let me hold my piss and not go to

01:08:04.639 --> 01:08:06.500
the bathroom and watch Steve as he's a clown.

01:08:06.900 --> 01:08:09.820
And it turned into something fun. And Kevin at

01:08:09.820 --> 01:08:12.519
nine years old. And so it was like nine and 10

01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:15.699
and 12. He was never had any stage fright. And

01:08:15.699 --> 01:08:17.840
next thing you know, the kids like. I remember

01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:21.340
I grounded him from singing once. Oh, and I hear

01:08:21.340 --> 01:08:24.399
him in his bedroom and I walk back in and he's

01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:27.079
got this Casio keyboard. He's playing Angry Young

01:08:27.079 --> 01:08:30.279
Man from Billy Joel. Wow. And that's not an easy

01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:34.760
song to play on keyboard. No. So, yeah, he's

01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:38.569
singing. Steve, are you like just. Wrapped up

01:08:38.569 --> 01:08:40.569
his mouth cut off his tongue. How do you stop

01:08:40.569 --> 01:08:43.250
somebody from singing? Well, I got you know,

01:08:43.250 --> 01:08:45.250
I would it was weird I would take him out to

01:08:45.250 --> 01:08:48.010
the bar and let him do a karaoke in a place I

01:08:48.010 --> 01:08:50.909
go nuts and it took 45 minutes for us to leave

01:08:50.909 --> 01:08:52.229
because all people's are going What do you want

01:08:52.229 --> 01:08:55.090
a picture? He's like 10 11 years old taking pictures

01:08:55.090 --> 01:08:57.989
signing autographs to a karaoke and and I'm like

01:08:57.989 --> 01:08:59.810
look man I look like an idiot father here. I'm

01:08:59.810 --> 01:09:02.029
like, you know, it's getting close to 12 o 'clock

01:09:02.029 --> 01:09:03.949
I got to get him out of here and the guys like

01:09:03.949 --> 01:09:05.890
oh no, no, man We let him do the second song

01:09:05.890 --> 01:09:08.199
late towards the end of the night So you're anchoring

01:09:08.199 --> 01:09:10.159
the talent and he's freaking 10 years old. I

01:09:10.159 --> 01:09:11.979
look like a jerk. If you're going to do that,

01:09:12.060 --> 01:09:15.039
give them half your money. So I only did that.

01:09:15.399 --> 01:09:17.680
I only did that, guys, because I wanted to see,

01:09:17.699 --> 01:09:19.000
well, if you're going to come back to Connecticut,

01:09:19.020 --> 01:09:20.460
as we were living in Charlotte and I was doing

01:09:20.460 --> 01:09:25.060
a once a year holiday show at hype, you know,

01:09:25.199 --> 01:09:26.899
do you have good stage presence? You're going

01:09:26.899 --> 01:09:29.100
to be afraid. And he did. And he goes, this is

01:09:29.100 --> 01:09:30.800
wireless. And he's walking through the crowd.

01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:34.859
And yeah, it's just totally amazing. And and

01:09:34.859 --> 01:09:37.439
as far as filming, he's been playing with video

01:09:37.439 --> 01:09:39.220
cameras and filming and editing since he was

01:09:39.220 --> 01:09:42.939
like four years old and uh yeah i mean i i'm

01:09:42.939 --> 01:09:46.479
amazed at these guys and uh it just in every

01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:48.420
aspect and then rocky like you know the fact

01:09:48.420 --> 01:09:51.579
that he played i was a decent hockey player but

01:09:51.579 --> 01:09:54.970
this guy's like you know a star. Now he got his

01:09:54.970 --> 01:09:57.569
little brother involved. Cool. You know, he's

01:09:57.569 --> 01:09:59.109
cleaning his act up. He's like, Mark, why don't

01:09:59.109 --> 01:10:01.449
you need a hobby? Come play hockey. And we'd

01:10:01.449 --> 01:10:03.250
fly back from from a trip. And he's like, I got

01:10:03.250 --> 01:10:04.789
to make my game. I'm like, take a night off.

01:10:04.789 --> 01:10:06.329
He doesn't take a night off. And it's just a

01:10:06.329 --> 01:10:08.869
men's league. But these kids are passionate about

01:10:08.869 --> 01:10:11.010
everything, man. And even the be like available

01:10:11.010 --> 01:10:13.390
today to be with me today, you know? Well, dad,

01:10:13.449 --> 01:10:16.090
you got to you got to be proud because I believe

01:10:16.090 --> 01:10:18.350
that comes a lot from the parents where the kids

01:10:18.350 --> 01:10:20.670
learn to be passionate and things of that nature.

01:10:20.689 --> 01:10:23.310
So you should be a proud father. That's a hundred

01:10:23.310 --> 01:10:25.649
percent true like I was talking about that last

01:10:25.649 --> 01:10:26.989
night with my young with my youngest brother

01:10:26.989 --> 01:10:30.289
we were talking about how He kind of just spawned

01:10:30.289 --> 01:10:32.970
three mini hymns and each one of the kids has

01:10:32.970 --> 01:10:35.590
one of his like hobby traits Whether it's like

01:10:35.590 --> 01:10:37.670
and even the film thing. He doesn't talk much

01:10:37.670 --> 01:10:39.670
about like Regardless of what he was doing we

01:10:39.670 --> 01:10:42.149
were younger like he put us on to so many good

01:10:42.149 --> 01:10:45.890
like older films like Shawshank and all the Rockies

01:10:45.890 --> 01:10:48.189
and Goodfellas and all those things and that

01:10:48.189 --> 01:10:50.770
bled into the oldest who's the writer it bled

01:10:50.770 --> 01:10:54.140
into him so much and like that was his That was

01:10:54.140 --> 01:10:56.180
his, like, for me, it's hockey. That was his

01:10:56.180 --> 01:10:58.279
hockey before he got into, like, music making

01:10:58.279 --> 01:10:59.800
and stuff. Would you like to come say hi, Kevin?

01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:04.920
Look who just walked in the room! Kevin Sabo!

01:11:05.100 --> 01:11:07.880
Say hello to Chad and J -Row! Chad, what's going

01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:09.840
on, brother? How are you? J -Row, what's happening?

01:11:10.340 --> 01:11:13.119
Sorry, guys. I literally just, how are you guys

01:11:13.119 --> 01:11:15.699
listening to him through this? Hey, we just saw

01:11:15.699 --> 01:11:18.840
your rerouting trailer, dude. So good as your

01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:21.140
part. But wow, is that thank you so much. I just

01:11:21.140 --> 01:11:23.100
spent the last hour on the phone with the producers

01:11:23.100 --> 01:11:25.300
in London submitting it to a bunch of film festivals.

01:11:25.319 --> 01:11:28.279
So we just upgraded to six. We're hoping it's

01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:31.260
a good twenty twenty four season. If there's

01:11:31.260 --> 01:11:33.619
cool movies out there that can compete with that

01:11:33.619 --> 01:11:36.579
on an independent level, dude, I would be floored

01:11:36.579 --> 01:11:39.460
because I'm in. I'm all in. I want to see that

01:11:39.460 --> 01:11:41.420
movie like yesterday. It looks it looks great.

01:11:41.819 --> 01:11:45.289
The premise is amazing. uh the the uber driver

01:11:45.289 --> 01:11:47.010
fucking i think i'm gonna have nightmares thinking

01:11:47.010 --> 01:11:50.310
of that dude tonight thanks man i appreciate

01:11:50.310 --> 01:11:52.590
it we yeah we we gave it our all with that one

01:11:52.590 --> 01:11:56.010
it took the majority of 2023 it was only a 12

01:11:56.010 --> 01:11:58.609
day shoot so we did that entire thing in 12 days

01:11:58.609 --> 01:12:02.189
but it was split into two separate units and

01:12:02.189 --> 01:12:07.130
between pre -production post -production And

01:12:07.130 --> 01:12:09.689
then almost like losing our houses and our cars

01:12:09.689 --> 01:12:12.189
and like all our most valuable possessions because

01:12:12.189 --> 01:12:14.569
you always lose money on a film. You make money

01:12:14.569 --> 01:12:16.170
immediately in an advertising, but you always

01:12:16.170 --> 01:12:19.130
have to lose to make a film. It just consume

01:12:19.130 --> 01:12:21.569
the entire year. But all that teaches you a lot,

01:12:21.829 --> 01:12:24.460
teaches you patience. And it teaches you not

01:12:24.460 --> 01:12:27.520
to prejudge your own product or your own determination

01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:30.039
or anything, because the motive for film and

01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:32.479
it might be similar with music, honestly, you

01:12:32.479 --> 01:12:34.560
have to have a delusional belief in yourself.

01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:37.119
But at the same time, you have to know that,

01:12:37.119 --> 01:12:40.500
you know, to to the certainly to Hollywood, which

01:12:40.500 --> 01:12:42.960
we operate outside of, but to the business, you

01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:45.340
ain't shit, you ain't shit. And so you're pre

01:12:45.340 --> 01:12:48.060
-selected by the audience. So it's kind of like,

01:12:48.140 --> 01:12:50.119
as long as you know that, you never stop trying,

01:12:50.560 --> 01:12:53.920
basically. Well put, man. Yep. It's awesome.

01:12:54.619 --> 01:12:58.000
I'm going to say that if this doesn't, uh, like

01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:00.399
insight and audience and really gather you fans,

01:13:00.479 --> 01:13:02.380
I'm not sure what will, because it just looks

01:13:02.380 --> 01:13:05.159
so, you know, well done, well put together when

01:13:05.159 --> 01:13:06.819
you say, right. Yeah, basically. Right. I'll

01:13:06.819 --> 01:13:11.920
kill myself. Basically. When you said two units

01:13:11.920 --> 01:13:13.399
going out once, did you mean like, in other words,

01:13:13.439 --> 01:13:16.060
there was two separate film crews filming on

01:13:16.060 --> 01:13:19.319
the same days? I wasn't clear with that. No,

01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:21.840
that's very perceptive. No, that's just kind

01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:25.079
of like our nickname for it is our producer early

01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:26.460
on was like, you know, there's a lot of things

01:13:26.460 --> 01:13:28.039
we're going to let second unit handle them. We're

01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:29.199
all looking at each other like we don't have

01:13:29.199 --> 01:13:32.680
a second unit. So we were the second unit to

01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:34.939
know it was really just split into two shoots

01:13:34.939 --> 01:13:37.899
and one prioritized all the driving because you

01:13:37.899 --> 01:13:40.699
don't drive in movies. a real budget, you would

01:13:40.699 --> 01:13:45.319
never put the two leads in a car with the DP

01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:47.920
and drive around because it's extremely dangerous.

01:13:47.960 --> 01:13:51.720
But when you have only $50 ,000 to work with,

01:13:51.760 --> 01:13:55.319
that's what you do. So it's a little risky and

01:13:55.319 --> 01:13:58.520
you got to prioritize one at a time. One is more

01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:02.319
acting and one is more action oriented, even

01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:04.619
though we didn't have people that specialize

01:14:04.619 --> 01:14:07.079
in action, which would kind of be the second

01:14:07.079 --> 01:14:09.800
unit directors and things like that. Right. So

01:14:09.800 --> 01:14:13.140
in those pro films, they'd probably be on in

01:14:13.140 --> 01:14:15.819
a car with a green screen behind them with them,

01:14:16.020 --> 01:14:18.140
like kind of mechanically move in the car to

01:14:18.140 --> 01:14:20.119
make it look real. But you guys have to deal

01:14:20.119 --> 01:14:23.199
with like real driving scenarios and making sure

01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:25.340
the shots blend together and you're not, you

01:14:25.340 --> 01:14:27.699
know, cutting and editing to where like, Oh,

01:14:27.739 --> 01:14:30.000
that doesn't look right. But this driving seems

01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:33.119
a great, uh, from the trailer. Thank you, I appreciate

01:14:33.119 --> 01:14:35.220
it. Yeah, if you don't, if you don't have big

01:14:35.220 --> 01:14:37.319
money and you don't have a studio, a green screen

01:14:37.319 --> 01:14:40.680
driving scene looks horrible. Right. So there's

01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:42.680
no reason to even attempt it, you know, to do

01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:44.960
green screen ourselves with, you know, with the

01:14:44.960 --> 01:14:47.079
kind of money we have, it's just looked terrible.

01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:48.560
So we were like, let's just do the damn thing,

01:14:48.579 --> 01:14:51.399
let's go drive around. And it also gives the

01:14:51.399 --> 01:14:52.800
audience a chance to kind of feel like you're

01:14:52.800 --> 01:14:56.460
in the car. And so then you get to play with

01:14:56.460 --> 01:14:59.920
things like, we're two Uber drivers, like I'm

01:14:59.920 --> 01:15:03.989
the dude that's... Not my identity is not like

01:15:03.989 --> 01:15:06.289
an Uber driver. I'm just like the dude that's

01:15:06.289 --> 01:15:09.590
driving Uber to try to make money. And Christ,

01:15:09.750 --> 01:15:11.630
I shouldn't even be saying Uber. I'm a ride share

01:15:11.630 --> 01:15:13.710
driver. And so then you get to play with things

01:15:13.710 --> 01:15:16.289
like the lighting is very routine in my car because

01:15:16.289 --> 01:15:19.069
you feel like it's it's a public transportation

01:15:19.069 --> 01:15:21.569
service. And then everything's very like dream,

01:15:22.229 --> 01:15:24.229
kind of grim and dreary in the killer's car.

01:15:24.449 --> 01:15:26.710
You get to play with things like that. Well thought

01:15:26.710 --> 01:15:30.130
out, dude. That is that is so. We I made a joke

01:15:30.130 --> 01:15:31.810
earlier because your brother was saying uber

01:15:31.810 --> 01:15:34.050
driver, too I said by the way the sabo's own

01:15:34.050 --> 01:15:37.210
lift. That's why they're saying uber Because

01:15:37.210 --> 01:15:40.510
they only oh my goodness Yeah, no, I keep for

01:15:40.510 --> 01:15:42.229
guy keep forgetting I keep forgetting not to

01:15:42.229 --> 01:15:44.569
say that but it's tough because who says ride

01:15:44.569 --> 01:15:46.729
share That's technically what it is. It's a ride

01:15:46.729 --> 01:15:49.270
share service, but nobody says I'm gonna go ahead

01:15:49.270 --> 01:15:52.470
and call a ride share So it's tough. Did we did

01:15:52.470 --> 01:15:54.189
we talk about everybody's favorite live songs?

01:15:58.840 --> 01:16:02.579
Going to see the band. Going to see the band

01:16:02.579 --> 01:16:05.319
was always great. We talked about early ages

01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:08.340
with Rush and you came on the road and then live.

01:16:09.060 --> 01:16:11.119
Yeah, we had a lot of cool experiences with live.

01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:14.640
I saw Ed solo a couple of times and then probably

01:16:14.640 --> 01:16:19.079
saw live just as many times and I have a lot

01:16:19.079 --> 01:16:20.899
of good memories of going to see live. There

01:16:20.899 --> 01:16:23.899
was also a lot of the venues that we saw live

01:16:23.899 --> 01:16:28.450
in were pretty like up close and personal. like

01:16:28.450 --> 01:16:30.850
really packed rooms, but up close and personal.

01:16:31.630 --> 01:16:33.829
So you always felt like, and then there was even

01:16:33.829 --> 01:16:35.909
one time, yeah, there was even one time we were,

01:16:35.909 --> 01:16:38.270
we were so close that Ed like called out to me

01:16:38.270 --> 01:16:40.010
and the crowd. Cause I was really young. He was

01:16:40.010 --> 01:16:42.670
talking about, I think when he wrote heaven with

01:16:42.670 --> 01:16:45.369
writing about it for his daughters and he goes,

01:16:45.529 --> 01:16:47.689
there's some young people and there's okay, what's

01:16:47.689 --> 01:16:51.289
up Kevin? Nice. I think a lot of love, like Eddie

01:16:51.289 --> 01:16:54.369
and Alex would come up to the front and nod and,

01:16:54.369 --> 01:16:57.819
and uh, We're standing in front and Neil would,

01:16:57.899 --> 01:17:00.819
like, send his guy over to give Kevin some drumsticks.

01:17:00.920 --> 01:17:02.539
And I'm like, listen, Neil doesn't say hi to

01:17:02.539 --> 01:17:04.100
no one, not even his wife, but I want you to

01:17:04.100 --> 01:17:06.500
nod and say thank you. He says, thank you, Neil.

01:17:07.119 --> 01:17:08.760
Miles, you're welcome. And the whole front row

01:17:08.760 --> 01:17:11.399
is like, oh, my God, you know Neil Bearden. The

01:17:11.399 --> 01:17:13.359
singer from Journey would hop down and give him

01:17:13.359 --> 01:17:17.420
a fist pump. ZZ Top. But the best one, I think,

01:17:17.479 --> 01:17:19.640
is when we spent like a half a week with Van

01:17:19.640 --> 01:17:23.539
Halen. And we got to talk to Wolfgang. And then

01:17:23.539 --> 01:17:25.420
all of a sudden, Kevin's like, holy crap. I'm

01:17:25.420 --> 01:17:27.340
like, don't even tell me that that picture they

01:17:27.340 --> 01:17:29.979
took is in Guitar World magazine. And there it

01:17:29.979 --> 01:17:31.880
is. There's there's Eddie and Wolfie on the cover.

01:17:31.939 --> 01:17:33.659
And you open up, you think Dave's back in the

01:17:33.659 --> 01:17:36.539
band. It would be Dave. No, no, it's Eddie. It's

01:17:36.539 --> 01:17:39.720
Wolfie. And there's Kevin holding the fans back,

01:17:39.800 --> 01:17:43.220
holding a sign that says, Wolfie, you rock. And

01:17:43.220 --> 01:17:46.119
yeah, I mean, and even again, when he became

01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:48.220
friends with Neil, like he was probably closer

01:17:48.220 --> 01:17:51.720
to Neil Peart than I was because, you know, like

01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:54.989
he just I taught them well. When they were backstage,

01:17:55.050 --> 01:17:58.409
they didn't, like, get in the way. And, you know,

01:17:58.409 --> 01:18:00.369
he went up to Alex one time. He's like, hey,

01:18:00.409 --> 01:18:01.949
Alex, can you sign this shirt that Geddy gave

01:18:01.949 --> 01:18:03.930
me? And he signed it. He's like, yeah, sure,

01:18:04.069 --> 01:18:05.810
Kev. He goes, I see you're talking to your friends.

01:18:05.890 --> 01:18:08.550
You know, I'll talk to you another time. I think

01:18:08.550 --> 01:18:10.909
Kevin was nine when he said that. Just a lot

01:18:10.909 --> 01:18:13.250
of manners. Hey, listen, the best thing for any

01:18:13.250 --> 01:18:16.489
of us, you know, as parents is, boy, I saw your

01:18:16.489 --> 01:18:18.310
kid the other day. You know, what such great

01:18:18.310 --> 01:18:21.050
manners? What an awesome young man or what a

01:18:21.050 --> 01:18:24.619
polite human being. Yeah. Be a prick behind the

01:18:24.619 --> 01:18:26.539
scenes with dad, but just out in public, just

01:18:26.539 --> 01:18:30.199
be a good person. And I'm lucky. I'm very, very

01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:33.100
lucky. I'm very blessed. Well, uh, Kevin, Rocky,

01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:35.819
we want to have actually, uh, you guys on, uh,

01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:38.600
you know, minus dad at one point, uh, when is

01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:42.699
rerouting coming out? Uh, or, or when is it going,

01:18:43.300 --> 01:18:45.520
I guess, yeah. When is it going to festivals

01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:48.149
or when is it released for the public? We're

01:18:48.149 --> 01:18:49.529
not going to know for a little bit right now.

01:18:49.609 --> 01:18:51.170
We're going to see which festival takes it first

01:18:51.170 --> 01:18:53.130
and kind of go from there. There's a little bit

01:18:53.130 --> 01:18:55.689
of interest from the industry, but it's like

01:18:55.689 --> 01:18:58.369
we made it through the first leg of all the struggles

01:18:58.369 --> 01:19:00.609
of making a film. And then this is like the second

01:19:00.609 --> 01:19:02.449
leg, like who wants to show it and who wants

01:19:02.449 --> 01:19:04.850
to buy it. I kind of feel like Eddie Murphy when

01:19:04.850 --> 01:19:06.710
he was playing Dolomite, because he got through

01:19:06.710 --> 01:19:08.829
the first Dolomite movie and then they were like,

01:19:08.970 --> 01:19:10.789
what's going on with it? Nobody wants to show

01:19:10.789 --> 01:19:13.729
them on the fucking now. It's it's it's yeah.

01:19:13.829 --> 01:19:15.390
Then you get to that next part, like who the

01:19:15.390 --> 01:19:17.529
hell wants to show it, who wants to buy it? But

01:19:17.529 --> 01:19:18.989
I mean, you know, there's a lot of interest and

01:19:18.989 --> 01:19:20.909
people are excited about it and they dig it.

01:19:21.130 --> 01:19:23.670
Um, we heard some good things from HBO. We heard

01:19:23.670 --> 01:19:25.689
some, some good things from, I mean, also it

01:19:25.689 --> 01:19:28.949
does have, um, Nick Thurlow is an academy award

01:19:28.949 --> 01:19:30.869
winning producer. He's the producer of moonlight

01:19:30.869 --> 01:19:33.810
and many others and his name is on it. So that

01:19:33.810 --> 01:19:36.729
was like that first piece of, of needed preselection

01:19:36.729 --> 01:19:39.649
that I'm just, I sometimes I think I'm like the

01:19:39.649 --> 01:19:42.869
only like in indie filmmaker that. that wants

01:19:42.869 --> 01:19:45.510
to be honest about like till you're pre -selected

01:19:45.510 --> 01:19:47.770
by somebody who's done great things. It's your

01:19:47.770 --> 01:19:49.630
film's not looking great. So you and your buddies

01:19:49.630 --> 01:19:51.470
can't just be like, hey, we think it's great.

01:19:51.489 --> 01:19:53.930
So that was like the first credit that went on

01:19:53.930 --> 01:19:56.149
the film that was like, okay, we got something

01:19:56.149 --> 01:19:59.029
here. And now we just, you know, we just got

01:19:59.029 --> 01:20:00.770
to see who's going to take it and show it first.

01:20:00.949 --> 01:20:02.949
And that's kind of probably going to be a touch

01:20:02.949 --> 01:20:05.250
and go process. Most of the first half of 2024.

01:20:06.250 --> 01:20:07.689
And then that's tough because you don't want

01:20:07.689 --> 01:20:09.390
to like lose people's excitement when you can't

01:20:09.390 --> 01:20:11.050
be like, you can watch it and check it out right

01:20:11.050 --> 01:20:15.000
now. But You know, we got to see which direction

01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:17.659
is best for the film to put it in front of the

01:20:17.659 --> 01:20:20.760
right audience. Awesome. Well, we'll stay in

01:20:20.760 --> 01:20:22.500
touch throughout the process and whenever you

01:20:22.500 --> 01:20:25.319
guys want to come on, when it makes sense to

01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:27.039
promote and stuff like that, we'll do that. But

01:20:27.039 --> 01:20:29.520
why don't we end with... Absolutely. Yeah. Why

01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:31.159
don't we end with all three Savos telling us

01:20:31.159 --> 01:20:37.800
their favorite live song? Yeah, go ahead. This

01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:39.819
is going first. My favorite is definitely Operation

01:20:39.819 --> 01:20:46.350
Spirit. Nice. Heavy drums. Yes. I like playing

01:20:46.350 --> 01:20:48.729
that song live too because not a lot of people

01:20:48.729 --> 01:20:51.329
want to do that. So you know what's interesting

01:20:51.329 --> 01:20:54.409
about my favorite live song is it's tech. It

01:20:54.409 --> 01:20:57.350
feels like it's technically a hit, but it's not.

01:20:57.670 --> 01:20:59.909
But it is. I don't get it, but it's simple Creed.

01:21:01.360 --> 01:21:03.680
Because let me let me just explain something

01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:06.039
real quick about like certain things either coming

01:21:06.039 --> 01:21:08.239
out when you're really young or before you were

01:21:08.239 --> 01:21:11.420
born You can't figure out sometimes like what

01:21:11.420 --> 01:21:13.779
like what the impression or the status of one

01:21:13.779 --> 01:21:16.239
of your favorite songs is Right when it when

01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:19.539
it didn't come out During your prime, you know,

01:21:19.539 --> 01:21:20.960
I mean like it came out before you were born

01:21:20.960 --> 01:21:23.390
or when you were young. So Like I would go back

01:21:23.390 --> 01:21:25.289
and check out the music video for that. And I'm

01:21:25.289 --> 01:21:27.630
like, I can't tell. Was this like the shit at

01:21:27.630 --> 01:21:29.390
the time or was it overshadowed by the bigger

01:21:29.390 --> 01:21:32.289
hits or I don't know. But all I know is that

01:21:32.289 --> 01:21:34.329
that song fucking kicks ass. It's like my favorite.

01:21:34.909 --> 01:21:38.449
And that live record. This is always the great

01:21:38.449 --> 01:21:40.649
thing about live. You have to say live. The band

01:21:40.649 --> 01:21:45.510
had a live record. Right. That that confusing

01:21:45.510 --> 01:21:50.289
record that was recorded live. Phenomenal. Yes.

01:21:50.689 --> 01:21:53.470
Yes. Oh, apparently, apparently, opened with

01:21:53.470 --> 01:21:56.149
that. Yeah. And that's dope. So I listen to the

01:21:56.149 --> 01:21:58.250
live version of that a lot, too. Cool. Yeah.

01:21:58.409 --> 01:22:01.069
The video will create is funny, right? It's growing

01:22:01.069 --> 01:22:03.430
out his hair. It's kind of frode out at that

01:22:03.430 --> 01:22:06.789
point. It's well, not one is so strange to see

01:22:06.789 --> 01:22:10.729
him with hair. Totally. I don't. So that was

01:22:10.729 --> 01:22:13.329
his last ditch to grow out his hair. Yeah, I

01:22:13.329 --> 01:22:15.430
don't know if I have a favorite song. I have

01:22:15.430 --> 01:22:18.449
a favorite album and I always catch shit for

01:22:18.449 --> 01:22:21.840
it on the sites. Five is my favorite live album.

01:22:22.119 --> 01:22:25.739
Which one? I don't know why. Oh, yeah. Can I

01:22:25.739 --> 01:22:27.479
talk? That's a great thing you brought up, dude,

01:22:27.579 --> 01:22:30.659
because transmit your love on there is read.

01:22:30.659 --> 01:22:34.640
Oh, right. Yes. Yeah. Well, that's one of my

01:22:34.640 --> 01:22:37.899
favorite songs. Oh, my God. That there there's

01:22:37.899 --> 01:22:40.680
like a weird part in on one of the songs where

01:22:40.680 --> 01:22:43.399
Ed starts rapping, but that's the only lull in

01:22:43.399 --> 01:22:45.439
the album. Besides that, I'm like, oh, this is

01:22:45.439 --> 01:22:48.159
this is this is a great album. Instead of picking

01:22:48.159 --> 01:22:51.119
a favorite song, but let's also talk about Birds

01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:54.579
of Prey is so underrated. What a phenomenal record.

01:22:55.260 --> 01:22:58.180
One of Kevin's one of Kevin's first film things,

01:22:58.180 --> 01:23:02.060
he was like 14. He did a documentary of of me

01:23:02.060 --> 01:23:04.359
living in Charlotte and Johnny Love Boner, a

01:23:04.359 --> 01:23:05.840
guitar player. That was his nickname. Living

01:23:05.840 --> 01:23:08.600
in L .A. when I just did Christmas shows because

01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:10.479
we were all scattered all over the place and

01:23:10.479 --> 01:23:13.600
he would film us driving from Charlotte and and.

01:23:14.239 --> 01:23:17.340
God, I forget the damn song. Life marches on.

01:23:17.340 --> 01:23:21.100
Yeah. And he's he did it in his documentary.

01:23:21.220 --> 01:23:24.359
I'll send it to you down the road. He sped up

01:23:24.359 --> 01:23:27.539
the traffic and everything to that. But I mean,

01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:29.800
this is what I love about my son. So we're driving

01:23:29.800 --> 01:23:32.060
there and we go through Richmond, Virginia, and

01:23:32.060 --> 01:23:35.619
you see the lights on the buildings at Christmastime.

01:23:35.619 --> 01:23:38.680
And it's a real somber moment. And he uses from

01:23:38.680 --> 01:23:42.939
Big Generator. Yes. Aim high, shoot low. I mean,

01:23:43.079 --> 01:23:44.979
this is what I think this is part of my influence

01:23:44.979 --> 01:23:47.520
on my kids with music where certain moments.

01:23:47.840 --> 01:23:50.039
Right. And then when we get to Connecticut, we're

01:23:50.039 --> 01:23:52.539
rushing to the gig and everybody makes fun of

01:23:52.539 --> 01:23:54.260
daggers. It's like, I'm going to get on the stage.

01:23:54.319 --> 01:23:55.800
We got to get out of my way. And people are what's

01:23:55.800 --> 01:23:57.840
wrong with Steve? He's like, he's fine until,

01:23:57.840 --> 01:23:59.960
you know, the sound checks over and everything

01:23:59.960 --> 01:24:02.119
done. Then he'll turn into a different guy. But

01:24:02.119 --> 01:24:04.859
I've learned to mellow out a little bit because

01:24:04.859 --> 01:24:08.000
I pretty much run the show. But and then I'll

01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:10.680
tell you what, guys, I don't care what the backstory

01:24:10.680 --> 01:24:15.000
is. And I was talking to Adam about this. Black

01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:17.439
Mountain's got some gems on it, too. I'd love

01:24:17.439 --> 01:24:20.579
to play Sophia in front of a crowd, but I'm one

01:24:20.579 --> 01:24:22.279
of those weirdos that I'll pick all these songs

01:24:22.279 --> 01:24:24.899
and my band's got to be like, look, man, no one

01:24:24.899 --> 01:24:27.760
knows that song. Yeah, I was just about to say

01:24:27.760 --> 01:24:30.699
the same thing. So Life Marches On is neck and

01:24:30.699 --> 01:24:33.399
neck with Simple Creed for me. And also I'm working

01:24:33.399 --> 01:24:35.739
with a band right now and it's the same thing.

01:24:36.819 --> 01:24:39.560
Every live song I'd want to play might. might

01:24:39.560 --> 01:24:41.739
veer more on the side of it. It's not a non -hit.

01:24:41.899 --> 01:24:44.380
It's not like one of the top fives. Right. But

01:24:44.380 --> 01:24:46.479
that's how it is when you're really into a band.

01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:48.920
And I don't know if you guys are short on time,

01:24:48.939 --> 01:24:51.619
but I'll just like wrap up with this point because

01:24:51.619 --> 01:24:55.399
of what he said made me think of this. When you're

01:24:55.399 --> 01:24:57.739
really a fan of music and when you're really

01:24:57.739 --> 01:25:01.140
a fan of like, you know, a particular band, you're

01:25:01.140 --> 01:25:05.319
you're almost like a nerd or you're a casual

01:25:05.319 --> 01:25:08.420
music listener. And I hate to be on the side

01:25:08.420 --> 01:25:10.420
of being a nerd, but that's also the kind of

01:25:10.420 --> 01:25:14.079
music fan I've always been. So I can't if life

01:25:14.079 --> 01:25:17.359
comes up in a discussion, I can't only talk about,

01:25:17.359 --> 01:25:20.560
you know, one or I can't. Yeah, I can't only

01:25:20.560 --> 01:25:23.359
talk about I alone. Right. You know, I can't

01:25:23.359 --> 01:25:25.800
only talk about I'll never play that song again

01:25:25.800 --> 01:25:31.039
on stage. I can't. Yeah. How amazing is Wings

01:25:31.039 --> 01:25:33.399
off of Birds of Prey in concert, especially.

01:25:33.640 --> 01:25:36.880
Right. Fucking phenomenal. I see that's where

01:25:36.880 --> 01:25:39.340
my life started getting fuzzy. Do you remember

01:25:39.340 --> 01:25:41.939
a place called the Rams head in Maryland, Chad?

01:25:42.180 --> 01:25:45.199
Yeah, Baltimore. Yeah. All right. So I got this

01:25:45.199 --> 01:25:48.180
is one of my low points. But so I was definitely

01:25:48.180 --> 01:25:50.619
on drugs and I went there and they wouldn't let

01:25:50.619 --> 01:25:55.439
Kevin in. And I guess for good reason. But luckily,

01:25:55.439 --> 01:25:58.260
I had another adult to a normal father be like,

01:25:58.260 --> 01:25:59.460
they won't let your son in. All right, fine.

01:25:59.539 --> 01:26:00.800
You're not going to go to the show. We got in

01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:03.340
a fight. Well, I got into a fight with the guard.

01:26:03.689 --> 01:26:06.050
And I was being a jerk because I locked the keys

01:26:06.050 --> 01:26:08.369
and I'm out there screaming and yelling. And

01:26:08.369 --> 01:26:11.430
I remember talking to everybody in the band,

01:26:11.649 --> 01:26:14.270
except for you, I think, and except for Ed. And

01:26:14.270 --> 01:26:16.449
Adam was outside and, hey, help me out, man.

01:26:16.510 --> 01:26:18.229
Just bring my son backstage and I'll collect

01:26:18.229 --> 01:26:19.670
them after the show. Just sneak them in through

01:26:19.670 --> 01:26:22.029
the back. And long story short, they wouldn't

01:26:22.029 --> 01:26:23.829
do it. And the biggest guard there was being

01:26:23.829 --> 01:26:27.890
such a jerk that the first note of the opening

01:26:27.890 --> 01:26:29.970
song, he walked up, he goes, remember me? And

01:26:29.970 --> 01:26:33.159
he... picks me up and carries me out of the gig.

01:26:33.520 --> 01:26:37.659
And I missed it. And I was so pissed. I was acting

01:26:37.659 --> 01:26:39.659
like the cops were called. I didn't get arrested.

01:26:39.800 --> 01:26:42.479
Thank God. But you never heard this. You didn't

01:26:42.479 --> 01:26:45.800
hear. No, that was in Baltimore. It was in Baltimore.

01:26:45.960 --> 01:26:49.039
It was horrible. And, you know, just again, part

01:26:49.039 --> 01:26:52.079
of the drugs were like, you know what? OK, today

01:26:52.079 --> 01:26:54.800
I'd be like, oh, that sucks. See you later. But

01:26:54.800 --> 01:26:57.720
ego, everything like, well, you know. I know

01:26:57.720 --> 01:26:59.439
these guys in the band and they'll be able to

01:26:59.439 --> 01:27:01.220
and I could do this and in this city I could

01:27:01.220 --> 01:27:03.340
do but you know what? Wake up, dude. You're on

01:27:03.340 --> 01:27:06.220
drugs. Hey, real quick. I can tell you guys are

01:27:06.220 --> 01:27:07.699
trying to wrap it up. I'm sorry I answered late.

01:27:07.800 --> 01:27:09.039
I've been handling business all day. No worries.

01:27:09.119 --> 01:27:11.939
All good, man. But real quick, Chad, even though

01:27:11.939 --> 01:27:14.640
you're your own man and you're your own musician,

01:27:15.140 --> 01:27:18.300
like most musicians, who's the one drummer that

01:27:18.300 --> 01:27:20.640
like even at your age and your stage in the game

01:27:20.640 --> 01:27:23.930
you never... can quite stop aspiring to wanna

01:27:23.930 --> 01:27:26.430
like, every time you hear a solo or you hear

01:27:26.430 --> 01:27:28.149
a song or you see a performance and you're like,

01:27:28.189 --> 01:27:30.850
ah, fuck, I like, that's still like the thing

01:27:30.850 --> 01:27:32.550
you aim for. Cause I think we all have that as

01:27:32.550 --> 01:27:37.670
musicians. I mean, Dave Grohl. Oh really? Not

01:27:37.670 --> 01:27:39.770
on Nirvana necessarily, but like the stuff he

01:27:39.770 --> 01:27:42.430
did with like Queens of the Stone Age or then

01:27:42.430 --> 01:27:44.810
Crooked Vultures. Like those records, the stuff

01:27:44.810 --> 01:27:47.470
he plays on those records are just fucking phenomenal.

01:27:47.949 --> 01:27:51.439
So he's that dude for you? Yeah. Yeah, and he

01:27:51.439 --> 01:27:54.199
became more of that in the later years. Before

01:27:54.199 --> 01:27:55.819
it was kind of Matt Cameron. It's still kind

01:27:55.819 --> 01:27:58.239
of his Matt Cameron stuff that he was Soundgarden.

01:27:58.420 --> 01:28:02.199
It's just out of this world. But I got more into

01:28:02.199 --> 01:28:05.699
Dave Grohl's drumming as I got older. And yeah,

01:28:05.819 --> 01:28:08.159
just especially from them Crooked Vultures and

01:28:08.159 --> 01:28:10.020
Queens of the Stone Age record he played on.

01:28:10.180 --> 01:28:13.420
What about the guy that inspired you to put that

01:28:13.420 --> 01:28:15.600
Tom under your hi -hat? That's good old Larry

01:28:15.600 --> 01:28:18.420
Mullins. I mean, yes, he's Larry Mullins Jr.

01:28:18.659 --> 01:28:21.520
Love him. He's always the, he's my main man.

01:28:21.840 --> 01:28:23.420
I've never met him though. I've met everybody

01:28:23.420 --> 01:28:25.859
in U2 except for him. And then what's, and then

01:28:25.859 --> 01:28:28.720
what's your favorite song to play live? My favorite

01:28:28.720 --> 01:28:30.960
song to play live. It's either between white

01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:34.020
discussion with keys juice are definitely the

01:28:34.020 --> 01:28:37.380
ones my faves to play. The hearties, the rock

01:28:37.380 --> 01:28:42.729
and rock ins. Yeah. Savo's, can you tell the

01:28:42.729 --> 01:28:44.930
audience where they could find everything you

01:28:44.930 --> 01:28:47.369
want them to know about, whether it's your personal

01:28:47.369 --> 01:28:49.430
social medias, websites, anything, because I

01:28:49.430 --> 01:28:51.869
want the audience to know and be able to check

01:28:51.869 --> 01:28:56.090
you guys out until we have you on again. I'm

01:28:56.090 --> 01:29:00.350
Kevin Savo, Kevin S -A -V -O underscore on Instagram.

01:29:01.980 --> 01:29:04.279
And man, I'll let Rock take this, because I've

01:29:04.279 --> 01:29:06.140
been online so long. If you just Google my name,

01:29:06.220 --> 01:29:07.699
I don't even know what comes up anymore. It's

01:29:07.699 --> 01:29:10.779
just like a plethora of all the years of just

01:29:10.779 --> 01:29:12.840
throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.

01:29:13.159 --> 01:29:15.380
The short films, the adventures of Save a Hoe,

01:29:15.460 --> 01:29:18.239
where I'm actually saving hoes at almost 28 years

01:29:18.239 --> 01:29:20.279
old. That's what I want J -Roe to be on. He's

01:29:20.279 --> 01:29:21.520
going to come to Connecticut and you're going

01:29:21.520 --> 01:29:24.159
to be in the next one. All right. Yeah, absolutely.

01:29:24.680 --> 01:29:28.060
Go ahead, Rock. Go, Rock. All right, so basically

01:29:28.060 --> 01:29:30.319
we do so much that kind of directing people in

01:29:30.319 --> 01:29:31.659
so many different directions is kind of a pain

01:29:31.659 --> 01:29:34.880
at this point. So I think for a platform like

01:29:34.880 --> 01:29:36.619
this, if you guys wanted to follow us on any

01:29:36.619 --> 01:29:38.380
social media that's like Facebook or Instagram

01:29:38.380 --> 01:29:40.359
or anything like that, either Rocky or Kevin

01:29:40.359 --> 01:29:42.899
Savo, you will see us post everything we're doing.

01:29:43.279 --> 01:29:45.159
We own two companies. We got the film going on.

01:29:45.180 --> 01:29:47.380
We have an NFT project and a whole bunch of stuff,

01:29:47.779 --> 01:29:50.039
music, everything like that. So my Instagram's...

01:29:50.109 --> 01:29:53.829
Rocky, R -O -C -K -Y, Savo, S -A -V -O -5 -1,

01:29:54.210 --> 01:29:56.130
and Kevin's is KevinSavo, underscore, and then

01:29:56.130 --> 01:29:57.369
the youngest brother, you know, he's still getting

01:29:57.369 --> 01:29:59.770
his content up, but yeah, you can find us on

01:29:59.770 --> 01:30:01.949
any streaming, any social media platform under

01:30:01.949 --> 01:30:04.340
those names. And we're looking for investors

01:30:04.340 --> 01:30:07.359
to buy the movie or somehow get involved so it

01:30:07.359 --> 01:30:10.159
can be released, correct? Distribution, but that'll

01:30:10.159 --> 01:30:12.039
be after it gets a little bit of hype and film

01:30:12.039 --> 01:30:13.859
festivals. It's just tough to get people to buy

01:30:13.859 --> 01:30:17.739
stuff until it's been seen. But yeah, eventually,

01:30:17.899 --> 01:30:19.579
hopefully just looking for the right thing at

01:30:19.579 --> 01:30:21.460
the right time for the right audience. Well,

01:30:21.619 --> 01:30:23.760
for anybody out there, this could be a way to

01:30:23.760 --> 01:30:27.460
get in on the ground floor with some future Scorsese

01:30:27.460 --> 01:30:30.699
directors style or, you know, whatever good directors

01:30:30.699 --> 01:30:32.899
are out there. So, hey, appreciate it, man. Hey,

01:30:33.000 --> 01:30:34.939
all I can say is it's tough, man. People don't

01:30:34.939 --> 01:30:36.619
want to throw money at stuff. But at the same

01:30:36.619 --> 01:30:38.840
time, you need guys that can do a lot with a

01:30:38.840 --> 01:30:41.520
little bit of money. And we had to become that

01:30:41.520 --> 01:30:42.960
way. And so we're pretty good at it now. You

01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:44.520
give us a little bit of money. We could do more

01:30:44.520 --> 01:30:47.319
with it. Most than most cats can, I think. Elon,

01:30:47.420 --> 01:30:49.680
if you're listening, send some of those millions

01:30:49.680 --> 01:30:52.039
over here when you got billions. Come on now.

01:30:52.060 --> 01:30:55.079
One million. Get off a million. There you go.

01:30:55.520 --> 01:30:58.000
Yes. Steve, could you say goodbye to the audience?

01:30:58.100 --> 01:31:00.640
We'd love to have you guys on again. Absolutely.

01:31:00.939 --> 01:31:03.880
Thank you guys. Thank you for being so honest,

01:31:04.100 --> 01:31:06.899
Steve. I want to just commend you on where you

01:31:06.899 --> 01:31:08.739
were in life, where you've been, where you've

01:31:08.739 --> 01:31:12.060
gotten to. You're an inspiration. And I want

01:31:12.060 --> 01:31:13.600
to thank you for being so honest on this show.

01:31:14.380 --> 01:31:16.979
Thank you, man. This has been great. When I saw

01:31:16.979 --> 01:31:19.659
Z -Man on this, I was like, man, and then I hit

01:31:19.659 --> 01:31:21.800
you up, and I'd love to be on it. And again,

01:31:21.979 --> 01:31:24.260
it's mostly, I was telling my kids, it's mostly

01:31:24.260 --> 01:31:27.680
to talk about, you know, where I was near death,

01:31:27.819 --> 01:31:30.500
and I changed my life in sobriety, and I want

01:31:30.500 --> 01:31:34.000
to, maybe someone hits me up after the show that

01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:36.720
never knew that they can become sober and live

01:31:36.720 --> 01:31:39.159
their life. But I don't have much to plug. Again,

01:31:39.260 --> 01:31:41.520
I play in a cover band, and I'm thrilled to just,

01:31:41.520 --> 01:31:44.699
you know... have a part in stuff like that. But

01:31:44.699 --> 01:31:48.159
proud of my kids and plug their stuff and then,

01:31:48.159 --> 01:31:50.760
you know, just everything they do. So thank you

01:31:50.760 --> 01:31:53.039
both. Chad, you've always been an inspiration.

01:31:53.239 --> 01:31:55.000
I love you. I'm always rooting for you. I hope

01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:58.979
to see you on stage again. And God bless you

01:31:58.979 --> 01:32:01.420
both, man. Same to you, man. God bless you. Thank

01:32:01.420 --> 01:32:03.220
you, gentlemen. Pleasure to have you guys on.

01:32:03.479 --> 01:32:06.779
Thanks. Thank you. Our pleasure. Our pleasure.

01:32:07.360 --> 01:32:10.300
All right. That was the Savos, ladies and Savos.

01:32:10.420 --> 01:32:12.899
I'm sorry. We started off with Steve and we got

01:32:12.899 --> 01:32:17.779
his better halves or quarters or third thirds.

01:32:18.079 --> 01:32:22.680
Yeah, we got two thirds. Dude, that was great,

01:32:22.720 --> 01:32:25.300
man. I'm inspired by these by these guys with

01:32:25.300 --> 01:32:27.279
the music, with the movies. It was they were

01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:30.479
fun to have on. Yeah, absolutely. Steve and his

01:32:30.479 --> 01:32:32.680
life and since I mean, I didn't didn't know that

01:32:32.680 --> 01:32:35.060
story. It's great to hear that. Like I said,

01:32:35.619 --> 01:32:38.569
my My happiest part is that he got to repair

01:32:38.569 --> 01:32:41.710
his relationship with his kids. Yeah. Totally.

01:32:42.350 --> 01:32:44.890
Because, you know, you, you, you lose that trust

01:32:44.890 --> 01:32:46.930
as a father. Sometimes it's hard to gain back.

01:32:47.149 --> 01:32:50.010
So thank God he was able to earn life around

01:32:50.010 --> 01:32:52.470
and to really, you know, inspire his kids. Like

01:32:52.470 --> 01:32:54.970
he said, some got the hockey from them. Some

01:32:54.970 --> 01:32:56.989
got the film from them. Some got the music from

01:32:56.989 --> 01:33:00.310
them. So you could tell that a big part of their

01:33:00.310 --> 01:33:04.149
life and has been, so it is beautiful. Uh, ladies

01:33:04.149 --> 01:33:06.350
and gentlemen, that is our show. We do want to

01:33:06.350 --> 01:33:09.729
thank you for listening. Please go like share

01:33:09.729 --> 01:33:13.970
and follow all of our pages. Check out, uh, Steve

01:33:13.970 --> 01:33:15.729
and his son's adventures. And again, we're going

01:33:15.729 --> 01:33:18.529
to have the two younger men on, uh, in the future

01:33:18.529 --> 01:33:20.810
and anything you want to say to the audience,

01:33:21.390 --> 01:33:24.970
Chad. Thank you as always. Appreciate it and

01:33:24.970 --> 01:33:28.270
keep listening and we'll be back next week. Yes,

01:33:28.270 --> 01:33:33.060
we will. Bye. Let me see if I can. Merry Christmas

01:33:33.060 --> 01:33:35.840
to everybody. Merry, merry. The next show will

01:33:35.840 --> 01:33:38.479
be the day after Christmas. So yeah, Merry Christmas.

01:33:38.680 --> 01:33:43.579
And I hope that I got this off.