The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 019 - Mike Bailey

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Setting it up for the custom because we're going

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live on five different platforms. Steve, we are

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live, ladies and gentlemen. Show 19. Hello, hello,

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hello. What up, Chad? Is this show 19, you said?

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I think so. Oh, let's keep counting. All right,

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good. We're a little bit behind Joe Rogan. He's

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at like 2086. A little bit, yeah. I don't know

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if we can catch up. We'll see. And that guy pumps

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him out. It's pretty wild. It is wild. It's crazy

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because somebody like me who does have ADHD,

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I wouldn't think I'd be in for a good long -form

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show like that, but all the conversations are

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pretty gripping, and it's just... it he's just

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giving kind of his opinion and then given facts

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based on and stuff like that he's not trying

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to swayed people in certain ways it's just kind

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of given information and people make their own

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uh you know their own informed decision on if

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it's right or not and i think i think that's

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the way to do it man open conversation and let

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people decide absolutely and like you said you

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know your attention your attention turns other

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things but i can I can watch him and a Sean Ryan

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show. I watch both of those pretty consistently.

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I listen to both of them either way, but yeah,

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I can listen to them long for, you know, two

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or three hours. What do you like to do? You like

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to listen to a podcast or you like to watch?

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I usually am in my car. So I'm listening to it.

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Yeah. Yeah, it is. It is. I don't, I don't, I

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like listening to, but then I like when they're

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explaining something kind of to see the visual,

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to go along with it. Like sometimes I'll listen

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to it. and i'll go back and scrub to wherever

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they were talking about something visual so i

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could see it you know absolutely yeah for sure

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i do that sometimes i'm listening going what's

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he putting on the screen like i want to see this

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yeah i'm uh i'm trying to work out some like

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figure out some uh editing programs and stuff

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so i can make us reels and stuff because that'll

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be the biggest way to expand we'll um you know

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make like 30 to 60 second reels and post them

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out there I mean, the audience is building nice,

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but it's just, it's easier to build an audience

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when you have those small clips, as opposed to

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trying to get somebody to invest an hour, hour

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and a half to watch a show, you know? Right.

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And put the call out to the, to the people. If

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any fans want to try to do some reels. Good,

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good, good choice. Yeah. I mean, uh, we're empowering

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anybody out there. Yeah. Make reels, clip it

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up. However, however you want. Uh, if you want

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to post them to your social tag us, if you want

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to give them to us and we tag you, however you

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want to do it. But help us out here and bring

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us along. And who knows? Eventually, we'll be

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looking for to hire people for for stuff like

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that and whatever. It could turn into some cool

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shit. So if you guys want to hop on board, hop

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on it. There you go. You can watch favorite mugs.

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You always have. I love intercourse. Pennsylvania's

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intercourse PA. Okay. I love it. You got to make

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shirts for that. Actually. That's, that's a really

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cool saying. That's why I got the little buggy

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on there. You know? Holy shit, dude. Yo, I watched

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1883, bro. That is crazy. It's Yellowstone before

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the prequel, right? Yeah. I got, I have never

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watched Yellowstone and now I have to watch 1883.

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I got to watch this shit. Well, I didn't watch

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Yellowstone either. Like I put on the first three

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episodes. I was like, this is pretty cool, but

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I could see how good it's going to get. But 1883

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just starts off. It's a banger. You know, like

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I didn't realize how fucking crazy the times

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were back then. And like all the promise, like

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America made promises to all the Europeans coming

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over, like come over, you'll get free land. They

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forgot to mention that there's fucking. Comanche.

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Native American Indian tribes there, or whatever

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you call them, natives. Yeah, that were literally

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there trying to kill. And then they also did,

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even the people that were coming over were criminals

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and shit. So you had to worry about stuff from

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all angles, dude. That's why they call it the

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Wild West, right? Yeah. And then he's got one

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after that called 1923, which again is the progression

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of the story into Yellowstone. And it's just

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fascinating, dude. I think about the shitty times

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we're in now, but then I watch something like

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that, and I fucking count my lucky stars that

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we're not in those times. Yeah, I mean, people

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tend to want to make the political divide right

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now into this thing where, oh, we're going to

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lead to civil war. Highly doubtable, but, like,

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we've been, the country's been to places like

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this before with this, you know, even more division.

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Like, I mean, around the Civil War, for instance,

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the first Civil War, I mean. Yeah. The division

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of the country obviously was freaking. way off

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the charts unprecedented yeah it is now right

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yeah it's like you know the the whole policy

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was called manifest destiny to take over the

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continent of you know from go go from sea to

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sea for the to uh for occupy the land for the

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united states right and it was brutal obviously

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brutal brutal and then because 1923 gets into

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um What was that trail called? The something

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trail where fucking like hundreds of thousands

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of people died trying to make the trek from like

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spring and they had to get there before winter.

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Oh yeah. The Oregon trail, the Oregon trail.

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And geez, man, not only do you have to contend

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with weather, but you had to contend with people

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trying to rob your carts, whether it's just,

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you know, European criminals or, you know, native

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Americans. It was just insane, dude. It's hard

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living. Totally. Like compared to what you have

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now. And if you think about it, it's not that

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long ago, dude, like 1923 was literally a hundred

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years ago. That's like your grandparents almost

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time. You know what I'm saying? Like that's insane

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how far we've come in that time. And it's still

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not where you want it to be. You know, like it's

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better in the, in the countries that have kind

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of got a little bit more civilized and have money,

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but. It's probably way worse in these third world

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countries than we even can begin to comprehend

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now. Oh, absolutely. Their life is hard living

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for sure compared to us. Isn't it strange that

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like we're over here living with our cell phones

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and planes and stuff and then there's like tribes

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in Africa or parts of the world that don't even

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know like their language is clucks and clicks

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and there's no written stuff. Like it's crazy

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that that's happening simultaneously. It is a

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weird juxtaposition for sure just to think that

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those tribes are out there. There's that one

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tribe that's uncontacted on – what's that island

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called? Senegal Island? Yes. Off of India? Yes.

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And they won't even – they've tried to go contact

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them and they fucking shoot arrows at them and

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shit. I think they – didn't they murder somebody

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that got onto the island? Yeah. So that was the

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best part of it. Some boat came and these guys

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were just like, you know, had wooden like arrows

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and pitches and stuff like that. And then a boat

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crashed. They killed whoever the person or people

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on there. And then next time they saw these people,

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they had like metal arrows and shit. Cause they

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took it from the boat and sharpened up. Yeah.

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So yeah, they're leaving those people alone.

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They're not even trying to mess with them, which

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is cool. Just think about those people that are

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like, they, they got this metal from this boat

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and they're like, what the fuck is this shit?

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Like, right. Obviously no, it's useful. Yeah.

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Like did the gods make it, you know, that's probably,

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I guess what they think came from the gods. For

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sure. I mean, if you, if we didn't like, I don't

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know if like the native Americans, if they saw

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like boats coming over and stuff like that, but

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they were just, they were building like teepees

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and like skin and animals for their, for their

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like homes and stuff like that. They weren't

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building like ships and all this stuff. They

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were riding horses. So it's like, It's like once

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they saw a boat coming over, they were probably

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like, what the fuck is this crazy creature thing?

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Like they probably had no clue what it was. And

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all these white guys are getting off. Yeah. Yeah.

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Pale skin. They're like, what the fuck? Who are

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these people? You know, we were always told that

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there's black people, white people, black people,

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because they're closer to the equator. So like,

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you know, their skin got, you know, rid of the

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whiteness. So it didn't burn. So like that. But.

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more melanin yeah why are native americans so

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dark when they're not that close to the equator

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you know i'm saying like america doesn't seem

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to have that type of path yet they're darker

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than what you would consider europeans at the

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time well we're getting into like genetics and

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stuff yeah i don't even i mean i'm just talking

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i mean i assume because they lived outside most

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of the time i don't know oh okay that's the point

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that's a good point they didn't have uh stuff

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to go indoors they were mostly even with the

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skins on the teepees and shit the sun's getting

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through that yeah yeah i think the northern europeans

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had a bit of a colder climate than most of america

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uh maybe i don't know dude but here's the one

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thing i'm thinking about now bear with me here

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because it's a little dirty but growing up Like

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older guys were always so against going down

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on girls. And I kind of didn't know why once

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I started to get into it and I got into it, you

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know, mid nineties, late nineties, you know,

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two thousands once shaving started to come into

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play, but I'm watching 1883. These girls shower

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like once a month, no tampons, no razor. Like

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it was probably a chore and a half to go down

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on a girl. You wanted to back then, like you

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had to deal with. crazy shit going on like there

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was like the vietnam jungle you know what i'm

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saying like you need to clear that shit with

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agent orange to to go through so i think that

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that stuck with guys for ever and then like around

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the mid 90s 2000s once the the baldness started

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to come in and ladies started to realize then

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the change started to come in but i remember

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like talking to people like say they were born

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in the 40s 50s like that's like that type They

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were so against going down on their girls. And

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I'm guessing that's because why they weren't,

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didn't have that clean stuff. And it was. Too

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hairy. Yeah. Yes. Hair on your hangy bowl. That

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shit suck. Did you ever hear of a Merkin? Yes.

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Yeah. Yeah. The whores back in the day, they

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would shave all their hair off. So it wouldn't

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get crabs and shit, but they put the Merkin on

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to look like they had hair. Oh, no. See, I knew

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a merkin was a toupee for a vagina, but I thought

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this came during Hollywood time when they were

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shaved and they needed to put one there. I didn't

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realize it was invented for that. I'm pretty

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sure that's what it was invented for. Wow. They

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would take horse hair and put it down there as

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their hair. Right. Let's shave all their hair

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off because of crabs and whatever. That's what

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I want, fucking. Rather than vagina hair, I want

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horse hair in my mouth. Well, hopefully it was

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a female horse and not a male horse. You got

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their ball hair in your mouth. No thanks. Yummy.

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Enough funning, ladies and gentlemen. Today we

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do have Mike Bailey coming on, for those who

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don't know. Another drummer extraordinaire. Been

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in a bunch of bands. Been with Bret Michaels,

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which is cool, man. Every rose has its thorn.

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Yes. That's a cool song, man. It is. He's played

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with them for quite a few years. He's not playing

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with them now, obviously. I met Mike at this

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thing called the Drumathon down in Dallas that

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April Samuels puts on. She's a breast cancer

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survivor, and she's a drummer, obviously. So

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she started this charity called Drumathon. She

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does it yearly in Dallas and raises a lot of

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money for breast cancer awareness. Sweet. She's

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a survivor herself, obviously. She's pretty good.

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Fucking very good drummer, too, I should say.

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She gets up. It's pretty cool. I mean, I went

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down. She invited me down through this girl,

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Lori Peters, who's also a professional drummer.

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And Mike and I. Yeah, Mike and I were both there

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and along with the drummer, Jim Blossoms. Nice.

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And Phil Verone, who plays with Saigon Kick as

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well. How'd she get all you cool people together?

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I guess she just reaches out. I was friends with

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Lori Peters on Instagram, and she reached out

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to me through contacts. It was pretty cool. It

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was fun. That is cool. And for a good cause,

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too. There's nothing better than a good time

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for a good cause, raising some money for something.

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That's a beautiful, beautiful thing. Yeah, and

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it was also cool to get together a group of drummers.

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I'm sure. Mike and I'll talk about this, but

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you know, it's talk shit on lead singers, guitar

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players. Yes. Yes. And it's in your, it's in

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your circle too. So, you know, it's not getting

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back to anybody that it shouldn't be, which is

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cool. You know, wait a second. You can't tell.

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We both, you talked about your lead singer. Oh,

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that's right. Exactly. There he is. There he

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is. Mike Bailey. What's up, Mike? What's up,

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John? Chilling. Can you hear me? We good? Well,

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hear you well. Yes, sir. Perfect. Hey, Chad.

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How you doing, buddy? Good, man. How are you?

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Good to see you. I need my reading glasses in

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order to see my screen here like John. Yeah.

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I'm rocking the shades. Dude, thank God they

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got some cool glasses, because back in the day,

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I had these Harry Potter -looking folks. Not

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that these are far off from there, but for a

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little keep. I have fancy contacts that are multifocal,

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so. Oh, that's what I need, Chad. Oh, my. I got

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to try contacts again, because. I tried them

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way back in the day, but this was like back in

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the day when I used to smoke weed from morning

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till night. And I think it dried my eyes out

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to where the contacts were just screaming to

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come out. I mean, rewetting drops. So I was like,

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I'm going to stay away from these, but I should

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retry them now that I don't smoke as much weed.

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That's good. No, I need to smoke more. No, not

00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:25.039
saying it's good that you're not. It's funny.

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I was, I was listening to the, uh, Bill Hines,

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uh, You know, and you guys touched base about

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that subject. And, you know, I thought it was

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kind of funny. So, Mike, I got a question for

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you. Were you playing drums in 2014 with Brett?

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I joined that year. Did you play in Indianapolis

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at the Indy 500? Did you play that gig? We did

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a lot of NASCAR gigs, so I would say yes. What

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do you know? It was July, August in 2014 when

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I started. Indy's in May, so you probably missed

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that one. I'm asking because at the time, a company

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that I own part of, we sponsored an Indy car,

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and the driver, Hinchcliffe, he had a – I'm sorry.

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Yeah, James Hinchcliffe had a girlfriend that

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was really fucking hot. And Brett Michaels was

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hitting on her right in front of James. And he's

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like, you're a fucking douche canoe, dude. Douche

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canoe. That's great. James is Canadian. He's

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fucking hilarious. So, yeah, that came out of

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his mouth. So we've been using douche canoe ever

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since. That's a great. He's calling that right

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to Brett's face. Well, I got to say, it doesn't

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surprise me, you know. I mean, I also don't blame

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Brett. The chick was really hot. Hell no. I do

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not blame Brett. And you got to give Brett props

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where props are due, man. That guy had Pam Anderson

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in her prime. Oh, for sure. Before she was defiled

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by Tommy Lee, Kid Rock, the rest of the fucking,

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you know, rock and roll. Agreed. Agreed. Maybe

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you don't want to answer this, but did you get

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to see Brett's little tape with Pam? um i've

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seen it yeah good good for batman if only the

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lighting was better it was i thought it was better

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than pam and tommy to be honest yeah yeah it

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was um it was interesting you know that's for

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sure you know she's a hottie man i mean i don't

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think there was a person hotter than her in her

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prime like when she was oh my god i was like

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that's a woman it ruined it for me i'm like nobody

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in my high school looks like this like where

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lady But John, where are you? You in California

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as well? Jersey. Oh, you're in Jersey. Yes, sir.

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How about you? I'm in Northern Virginia, right

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outside D .C. I was just in Newark. Three weeks

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ago, Hoboken or whatever. Yeah, Hoboken's awesome.

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Newark's coming up, man. And Jersey City, too.

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Like they were going like really crime ridden

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for a while. But then I guess investors came

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in, started bringing in. sports venues and nice

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apartments i mean you're overlooking new york

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city so uh yeah for sure it's amazing they got

00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:21.519
that run down being that close to new york city

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right i mean all northern new jersey's like you

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know it's spray paint everywhere yeah um i i

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actually took the girls up we wanted to do a

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christmas in new york city so we went early december

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You know, we did FAO Schwartz and Rockefeller

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Center and, you know, all the... The tourist.

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All the tourist stuff, yeah. My eight -year -old

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has never been to New York City, so she was like...

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Like, what is this? It was great. What are your

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girls' ages again? Eight and... Seventeen. Oh,

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geez, okay. Second grade and a senior. So, like,

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you're on the verge on both of them of, like...

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getting into crazy times the eight -year -old

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a couple years as a teen the 17th one year is

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18 it's like how did how do you how does that

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feel as a parent to i mean i'm sure you're gonna

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have control because you know whatever but how

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does that feel parent to go from full control

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to somebody at 17 to 18 and it's like what can

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i technically do here how do you navigate in

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that Well, I can tell you that it is a true blessing

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that the 17 -year -old is a really, really good

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kid. Like, there is no drama, right? That's great.

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There's no boy issues right now. There's no drug

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issues. There's no sneaking out of the house

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issues. There's, you know, it's, you know, we've

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all seen teenagers. We've been teenagers. We're

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guys. Right. You know, and just to say it's.

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she's been amazing and you know now my uh now

00:19:02.019 --> 00:19:07.140
sabrina the eight -year -old i'm not expecting

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those same results i would love them you know

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so i have a my son's 14 he's super chill he's

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always been super chilled so far and he's you

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know in his teen years she's been great but i

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have twin daughters that are they just turned

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10 they're going on you know 17 but But one of

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them is really super emotional, and the other

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ones can be devious. Nice. It seems to be a balance

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within a household, I think. They're not going

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to be the same. Definitely not, no. One of them

00:19:43.410 --> 00:19:46.049
may cause me problems. We'll see, though. We've

00:19:46.049 --> 00:19:48.930
got to break out that belt early. Hey, is that

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the one that bought you the coffee cup? This

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coffee cup? No. I bought this myself. oh the

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one the farther one actually no the other the

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other daughter bought me the farther one okay

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all right all right i was surprised yeah i would

00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:05.039
have expected that from from my london but yeah

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came from holland so yeah that's great well thanks

00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:12.180
for having me on i i appreciate it i uh you know

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i tell you i i got off facebook about a year

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ago i just deactivated my account i do instagram

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but i got hacked about a year ago had to start

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completely over um yeah so i i i The first couple

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of weeks, I think you guys were just Facebook,

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but congrats on expanding and tightening up the

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technical stuff. It's been great watching the

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show get – every week just gets more and more

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solid as far as putting the whole production

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together. Well, thank you. I appreciate that.

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That's all John. John keeps tightening it up.

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Get us on the other platforms. He's amazing.

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I appreciate you watching this stuff and for

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sure coming on, man. It's great to have you.

00:20:53.640 --> 00:20:56.140
so we had a good time at the drum -a -thon didn't

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we yeah i told john about that's how i met you

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yeah that was great so april's amazing oh yeah

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i thought i told him you know a group of drummers

00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:08.460
were all talking on on lead singers and guitar

00:21:08.460 --> 00:21:12.059
players you know it's funny i know if you told

00:21:12.059 --> 00:21:14.319
john you know we went out after the drum -a -thon

00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:19.200
uh samantha maloney uh you know she played with

00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:21.859
crew and she you know with whole with courtney

00:21:21.859 --> 00:21:26.740
loves whole And, you know, even as a musician,

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whether you're local or you achieve some national

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status, and this is something I want to talk

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to Chad about, you're always interested in hearing

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everybody's stories, their experiences, good,

00:21:38.140 --> 00:21:40.059
bad, and all that other stuff. So it was great

00:21:40.059 --> 00:21:42.119
to get some insight from you about what, you

00:21:42.119 --> 00:21:45.240
know, real things. The same thing with Samantha.

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Those little things are good memories for me

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to connect, especially with drummers. And it's

00:21:51.930 --> 00:21:55.269
funny because I wonder if you put like 10 guitar

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players in an RV together all day that are doing

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the thing, is everything going to go smoothly

00:22:00.250 --> 00:22:02.349
as it did for all these drummers? You know, with

00:22:02.349 --> 00:22:06.789
me, you, Phil, Samantha. I doubt it. I doubt

00:22:06.789 --> 00:22:09.869
it. There's going to be some conflict for sure.

00:22:10.150 --> 00:22:12.650
Oh, without a doubt. Who has the bigger dick

00:22:12.650 --> 00:22:16.659
in that room will come out very quick. Yeah,

00:22:16.659 --> 00:22:21.039
yeah. It was cool to hear Sam's, you know, her

00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:23.740
story, how she got in the crew, too. That was

00:22:23.740 --> 00:22:29.160
wild. Yeah. Is Sam a younger? No, she's, is she,

00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:33.900
what, she's late 40s? I would guess 40s, but.

00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:35.720
Yeah, she played, she was the original drummer

00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:38.539
in Hole. Nice. And played with them, and then

00:22:38.539 --> 00:22:42.000
she obviously plays drums a lot in L .A. and

00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:45.190
stuff, but she got. got the gig with Motley Crue

00:22:45.190 --> 00:22:47.930
when Tommy couldn't do it. So she's a badass

00:22:47.930 --> 00:22:50.670
drummer. Yeah. Yeah, no, she's awesome. Amazing,

00:22:50.829 --> 00:22:55.009
for sure. I think, Chad, and I could be wrong,

00:22:55.269 --> 00:22:58.049
but I think it was during the time when Tommy

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went to be a singer -guitar player guy. Oh, is

00:23:01.990 --> 00:23:04.369
that what he was doing? Yeah. I thought she did

00:23:04.369 --> 00:23:10.650
a whole tour. Okay. But, you know, my recollection.

00:23:10.670 --> 00:23:12.630
But, you know, it was a long day, and, you know.

00:23:13.190 --> 00:23:15.069
Yeah. I mean, she might've done a whole tour.

00:23:15.130 --> 00:23:18.049
I it's, it's, you know, I can't remember what

00:23:18.049 --> 00:23:20.769
I ate yesterday. So she gets fuzzy sometimes.

00:23:21.369 --> 00:23:23.950
Exactly. So how did it work? Who did you guys

00:23:23.950 --> 00:23:26.130
play drums? And if so, who were the musicians

00:23:26.130 --> 00:23:29.329
that you were kind of drumming for? Well, she,

00:23:29.430 --> 00:23:33.430
so April has a house band and then show you get

00:23:33.430 --> 00:23:36.250
up and do one or two songs of your bands, you

00:23:36.250 --> 00:23:38.769
know, or, or whatever songs you want to do. If

00:23:38.769 --> 00:23:40.789
you have other songs you want to cover, she'll

00:23:40.789 --> 00:23:43.700
do that too. But like, So I did two live songs,

00:23:43.940 --> 00:23:48.619
and then the people that donate, they can get

00:23:48.619 --> 00:23:51.700
up and choose to play along with the drummers.

00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:54.660
Wow. I didn't do that. I wasn't comfortable doing

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it, but maybe next time I'll do it. But I don't

00:23:56.839 --> 00:23:58.259
know. It was my first time doing it, so I was

00:23:58.259 --> 00:24:01.460
kind of like, hmm. Anyway, I'm an introvert,

00:24:01.480 --> 00:24:04.880
so I'm like. yeah probably a perfectionist you

00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:06.200
want you kind of want to know what you're doing

00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:08.420
before you dive into it in front of people maybe

00:24:08.420 --> 00:24:10.519
not behind closed doors yeah i'm not much of

00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:13.859
an improviser so anyway it was it was fun and

00:24:13.859 --> 00:24:17.900
the house band was great and you know abel abel

00:24:17.900 --> 00:24:19.680
would generally play along with you as well so

00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:22.140
on the drums you have two drummers up there whacking

00:24:22.140 --> 00:24:25.400
away wow yeah they they would basically have

00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:28.420
it set up they got two kits set up and what they

00:24:28.420 --> 00:24:30.319
call the celebrity drummer group and whether

00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:33.440
it's like Phil Varone to Saigon Kick or Rich

00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:37.680
Redman from Aldine or Chad from Live. And, you

00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:39.460
know, you go through the list of they've had

00:24:39.460 --> 00:24:45.059
Mark Shulman with Pink. Like a lot of these very

00:24:45.059 --> 00:24:48.799
successful like Chad drummers, they donate their

00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:51.660
time and they have these two kits up there. So

00:24:51.660 --> 00:24:54.500
after you do your own like three minute thing

00:24:54.500 --> 00:24:56.720
and like Chad, he could do multiple songs, you

00:24:56.720 --> 00:24:59.630
do whatever you want. uh to help raise money

00:24:59.630 --> 00:25:02.609
for their breast cancer foundation local musicians

00:25:02.609 --> 00:25:04.490
that they're going hey i'm a drummer and i'd

00:25:04.490 --> 00:25:06.990
love to jam with chad you know i'm a huge live

00:25:06.990 --> 00:25:09.589
fan and or whatever it might be and so you get

00:25:09.589 --> 00:25:11.930
up there for two or three minutes they donate

00:25:11.930 --> 00:25:15.029
their money and it's it's a great cause uh they

00:25:15.029 --> 00:25:16.829
have a great team over there i've been doing

00:25:16.829 --> 00:25:22.210
it well i did it in 2019 did it 2020 2022 with

00:25:22.210 --> 00:25:26.779
chad um you know and i'm always game to contribute

00:25:26.779 --> 00:25:28.920
and help raise money and you know participate

00:25:28.920 --> 00:25:32.160
whenever i can so i love it i love the fact that

00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:34.200
it was you know that she put this together i

00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:36.180
love the fact she got a bunch of good names on

00:25:36.180 --> 00:25:38.339
the bill and you know the the cause that she's

00:25:38.339 --> 00:25:40.259
doing it for you you don't get much better than

00:25:40.259 --> 00:25:43.900
that i was saying to chat earlier there's nothing

00:25:43.900 --> 00:25:47.259
better than doing a fun event and then it's for

00:25:47.259 --> 00:25:49.559
uh you know it's for charity as well so that

00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:52.220
that's a cool thing she's got going there Yeah,

00:25:52.299 --> 00:25:54.019
it's kind of like a team building event. You

00:25:54.019 --> 00:25:56.220
know what I mean? Everybody feels good. Everybody's

00:25:56.220 --> 00:25:58.480
putting in their work and nobody's asking for

00:25:58.480 --> 00:26:01.680
anything in return. And it's a good situation.

00:26:02.619 --> 00:26:05.539
Yeah, that's what makes the world go round. And

00:26:05.539 --> 00:26:08.920
I think, I would have thought with the implementation

00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:11.759
of the internet, it would have brought people

00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:14.859
closer together and made them realize we kind

00:26:14.859 --> 00:26:16.680
of share the same ideals and stuff like that.

00:26:16.740 --> 00:26:21.049
But it just seems to divide on basic shit. shit

00:26:21.049 --> 00:26:22.809
that we shouldn't be divided about. We're fighting

00:26:22.809 --> 00:26:25.970
about. So it's like, it's almost, it's like a

00:26:25.970 --> 00:26:28.589
double -edged sword. It could unite, but so far

00:26:28.589 --> 00:26:32.829
it seems to divide more. Yeah. Yeah. In the beginning,

00:26:32.930 --> 00:26:35.410
I think it was uniting, but now it's, you know,

00:26:35.450 --> 00:26:40.349
it's, it's, uh, dividing us on purpose. Yeah.

00:26:40.630 --> 00:26:43.549
Distracting us from the real issues. When it

00:26:43.549 --> 00:26:45.910
first situation, that's for sure. You know, that's

00:26:45.910 --> 00:26:48.609
for sure. I think when social media first came

00:26:48.609 --> 00:26:50.549
out, everybody, it was like the wild West. Nobody

00:26:50.549 --> 00:26:52.670
knew how it was going to be used. And then I

00:26:52.670 --> 00:26:54.309
think real quick governments realized, wait a

00:26:54.309 --> 00:26:56.730
second, we could just start fucking with people

00:26:56.730 --> 00:26:59.029
and getting them in fighting. And, and then,

00:26:59.109 --> 00:27:02.349
yeah, they took a cool tool and turned it into

00:27:02.349 --> 00:27:05.650
a propaganda machine. And never do anything about

00:27:05.650 --> 00:27:08.190
the regulations of the internet, you know? Exactly.

00:27:09.819 --> 00:27:12.099
right well how do you feel do you think there

00:27:12.099 --> 00:27:14.279
should be more regulations on the internet or

00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:16.359
do you think if they got their fingers into it

00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:19.099
and they regulated it that it could just fucking

00:27:19.099 --> 00:27:21.200
i think the social media company should be regulated

00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:25.519
or at least or at least uh you know they what's

00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:27.400
that there's some some rule that they that they

00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:29.599
use like rule 233 or something like that where

00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:32.440
it gives them that there are public forums so

00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:35.160
they're therefore the government they can let

00:27:35.549 --> 00:27:37.650
How's that? I forget how it works. Basically,

00:27:37.650 --> 00:27:40.190
they can censor whatever they want to censor

00:27:40.190 --> 00:27:42.069
because they're a public forum. Right. But if

00:27:42.069 --> 00:27:47.509
they're, I think it's some kind of rule that

00:27:47.509 --> 00:27:50.210
goes back to like newspapers and stuff. Right.

00:27:50.509 --> 00:27:52.069
I have to look it up. But anyway. Freedom of

00:27:52.069 --> 00:27:54.890
the press or something, right? Yeah. Whatever.

00:27:55.109 --> 00:27:57.630
I forget what it's called. Anyway, so that's

00:27:57.630 --> 00:27:59.450
the rule that they hide behind and they use to

00:27:59.450 --> 00:28:03.210
censor people. Yeah. Basically. But then like.

00:28:03.950 --> 00:28:06.430
You know, if you asked me five years ago, I probably

00:28:06.430 --> 00:28:08.329
would have been on border regulation. But then

00:28:08.329 --> 00:28:10.869
after seeing kind of the way the government used

00:28:10.869 --> 00:28:14.430
it to silence stuff or enhance stuff, it makes

00:28:14.430 --> 00:28:16.369
me second guess that, you know what I'm saying?

00:28:16.430 --> 00:28:20.450
Like it wasn't it wasn't Facebook censoring the

00:28:20.450 --> 00:28:23.630
Hunter Biden laptop story. It was the FBI and

00:28:23.630 --> 00:28:25.730
CIA telling him, no, this is fake. This is Russia

00:28:25.730 --> 00:28:28.490
bullshit. So those that's the governing body

00:28:28.490 --> 00:28:31.029
that would be regulating it, too, probably. So

00:28:31.029 --> 00:28:35.789
it's like it's just fucking weird. It's a conundrum.

00:28:36.630 --> 00:28:39.529
I was actually born in the District of Columbia,

00:28:39.609 --> 00:28:43.069
and I could go on my navigation. I'm 32 miles

00:28:43.069 --> 00:28:45.289
from the White House. And Chad knows where I'm

00:28:45.289 --> 00:28:48.089
at in Ashburn, Virginia. He's been to this area.

00:28:48.710 --> 00:28:53.690
I live in Data Center Central over here. I'm

00:28:53.690 --> 00:28:57.410
surrounded by data centers in Ashburn. Yeah,

00:28:57.549 --> 00:29:01.660
so it's... I don't know. There are so many hot

00:29:01.660 --> 00:29:05.180
topic issues, you know, whether it be, you know,

00:29:05.180 --> 00:29:08.299
guns or social media or this or that and or health

00:29:08.299 --> 00:29:12.619
care or giving health care to illegal aliens

00:29:12.619 --> 00:29:16.400
undocumented. Like, it's almost like, you know,

00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:18.559
if they just mix up this bowl and let everybody

00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:20.220
on the left and right just attack each other

00:29:20.220 --> 00:29:23.099
on an unregulated social media, they get to continue

00:29:23.099 --> 00:29:25.660
doing what they're doing. You know, just like

00:29:25.660 --> 00:29:28.799
that's what I meant by the lines like it doesn't

00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:31.829
matter. yeah right that's yeah california just

00:29:31.829 --> 00:29:33.970
pat i mean california's 36 we were just talking

00:29:33.970 --> 00:29:35.910
about this before you came on california's a

00:29:35.910 --> 00:29:38.250
36 billion dollar deficit yet they're giving

00:29:38.250 --> 00:29:40.829
free health care to all the illegals coming in

00:29:40.829 --> 00:29:42.829
i i you know i read that i think it was last

00:29:42.829 --> 00:29:46.509
week of the week before about that and um you

00:29:46.509 --> 00:29:48.069
know i'll be honest with you guys i've been a

00:29:48.069 --> 00:29:50.690
registered independent for a long time and i've

00:29:50.690 --> 00:29:53.609
voted on both sides and anybody if i were to

00:29:53.609 --> 00:29:55.809
run the office pull my records although i'm not

00:29:55.809 --> 00:29:58.829
lying about it but i just think that uh you know

00:30:00.390 --> 00:30:03.309
They could be doing things like that that shocked

00:30:03.309 --> 00:30:07.089
me when I saw that about California. It's like

00:30:07.089 --> 00:30:10.910
literally sometimes you go, what am I missing?

00:30:11.289 --> 00:30:13.650
Is there a component to this that I'm missing

00:30:13.650 --> 00:30:16.269
that I don't understand? That's what I always

00:30:16.269 --> 00:30:19.450
say to myself as well. There's got to be some

00:30:19.450 --> 00:30:23.190
justifiable reason to do this that makes sense,

00:30:23.369 --> 00:30:28.960
but you never seem to find it. Bobby, mute yourself,

00:30:29.059 --> 00:30:31.220
because if not, it seems like it's it almost

00:30:31.220 --> 00:30:34.039
seems like it's being designed to bring down

00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:37.900
our nation or states like California. Like when

00:30:37.900 --> 00:30:40.539
you're introducing DACA cops, which something

00:30:40.539 --> 00:30:42.140
Chad and I were speaking about a couple of weeks

00:30:42.140 --> 00:30:44.460
ago, which are illegal immigrants that they're

00:30:44.460 --> 00:30:49.039
arming with guns and badges. Yeah, they're going

00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:51.559
to then pull over, you know, citizens and ask

00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:53.900
for their papers like, what the fuck are you

00:30:53.900 --> 00:30:55.819
kidding me? So it's like you hear shit like that.

00:30:56.220 --> 00:30:59.279
if they have a grander plan in place like please

00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:01.819
tell me that because something like that i'm

00:31:01.819 --> 00:31:04.200
like this i know i know what the grand plan is

00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:07.819
votes votes right votes for blue that's what

00:31:07.819 --> 00:31:10.880
the grand plan is right right i love it and then

00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:14.380
you know so you know texas i mean obviously is

00:31:14.380 --> 00:31:17.059
like at the center of all this and they've deployed

00:31:17.059 --> 00:31:19.220
the national guard down there the texas national

00:31:19.220 --> 00:31:22.660
guard so they're starting to take over you know

00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:25.599
What is it? Abbott starts sending these people

00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:28.400
on buses to Chicago and New York, these sanctuary

00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:30.819
cities. And now they're like, we're overwhelmed.

00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:33.380
We can't take any more people. Stop doing this.

00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:35.480
And now the what? The mayor of New York is suing

00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:39.599
the bus companies. Right. He can't. And not and

00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:42.759
blaming Abbott for this, not blaming Biden for

00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:45.859
his open border policy. That's let in eight million

00:31:45.859 --> 00:31:49.140
people. And if he's got Texas's fault. Right.

00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:51.180
And if the governor of New York has such a problem

00:31:51.180 --> 00:31:53.200
with it, what's his plan for Texas? Right. Because

00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:55.460
they're part of our union. No. Or is the mayor

00:31:55.460 --> 00:31:57.380
of New York, the governor of New York has a problem

00:31:57.380 --> 00:31:58.980
with it, too. But both of them are like, we're

00:31:58.980 --> 00:32:01.579
sanctuary states and cities, but stop sending

00:32:01.579 --> 00:32:03.599
people. We can't take any more. And now they're

00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:05.380
kicking the kick. They just want to just took

00:32:05.380 --> 00:32:08.359
over an elementary or a high school in Brooklyn

00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:10.299
and kicked out all the students to house the.

00:32:11.140 --> 00:32:14.180
I mean, what the fuck is going on? We live in

00:32:14.180 --> 00:32:16.700
Clownville. Hey, while there's homeless people,

00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:20.059
Americans, this country out on the street. Right.

00:32:20.420 --> 00:32:24.200
Exactly. That's again, a lot of this, they don't

00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:25.900
connect and it doesn't make any sense to me.

00:32:25.940 --> 00:32:29.079
And, you know, I have to drive down the district

00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:31.660
usually once a week or once every couple of weeks

00:32:31.660 --> 00:32:33.779
or whatever. And you're reminded, I mean, there

00:32:33.779 --> 00:32:37.519
are so many homeless people everywhere and it

00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:45.460
makes no sense. Right. Right. Right. Was it either

00:32:45.460 --> 00:32:47.839
the mayor of Boston or someone in Boston calling

00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:50.599
to have people housed? Like, if you have an extra

00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.640
room, house a family. Really? Like, okay, here

00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:55.599
you go, lefties that want to have the whole border

00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:57.500
open. Step up. Put these people in your house.

00:32:57.579 --> 00:33:00.359
Let's do it. Come on. Put them in your house.

00:33:00.460 --> 00:33:03.859
You wanted them here. Who's the Robert Hayes

00:33:03.859 --> 00:33:06.339
that keeps popping up? Who's that cat? He was

00:33:06.339 --> 00:33:09.660
almost fired today. He's our young Jamie. If

00:33:09.660 --> 00:33:12.859
you watch the road. He's our producer who pulls,

00:33:12.940 --> 00:33:15.440
you know, if we need internet or stuff pulled

00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:18.819
up, he'll do that. So that's it. All right. What's

00:33:18.819 --> 00:33:24.259
up, Robert? Hey. We call him Bobby. Bobby. How

00:33:24.259 --> 00:33:29.440
you doing? There he is. There he is. Mike, so

00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:31.380
those sticks in the background, are those, is

00:33:31.380 --> 00:33:33.240
that like something you made or is it because

00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:35.599
it looks artistic or is it just kind of you threw

00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:37.779
them up there and it turned out cool? Are you

00:33:37.779 --> 00:33:40.349
talking about the sticks? Yeah. yeah man you

00:33:40.349 --> 00:33:42.869
know what that is it's i actually we were staying

00:33:42.869 --> 00:33:46.430
uh we were playing at the hard rock and i think

00:33:46.430 --> 00:33:51.049
it was biloxi no it was orlando uh the band was

00:33:51.049 --> 00:33:53.829
we were staying and if you if you're playing

00:33:53.829 --> 00:33:56.930
the orlando hard rock they they put you in this

00:33:56.930 --> 00:34:01.470
um level seven is uh like the rock star level

00:34:01.470 --> 00:34:04.130
where they put all the artists and all that other

00:34:04.130 --> 00:34:08.739
stuff the room had a custom -made thing exactly

00:34:08.739 --> 00:34:11.860
like what's behind me, and it was just 30 drumsticks,

00:34:12.179 --> 00:34:15.219
give or take. Nice. And you painted each one

00:34:15.219 --> 00:34:17.280
different colors, and you put a main bar behind

00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:19.599
it, and then you put the sticks on it. So I basically

00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:21.880
took a picture of it and stole the idea. That's

00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:24.860
awesome. I didn't know where you were going with

00:34:24.860 --> 00:34:26.960
this story, if you stole it from the hotel room

00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:28.800
or if you stole the idea and made your own. Okay,

00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.820
glad you admitted to stealing the idea. I'm the

00:34:31.820 --> 00:34:34.400
lamest rock star. Like one night we were in a

00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:38.000
hotel room getting just ridiculous and we decided

00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:41.780
to just mess up the entire room. Right. And you

00:34:41.780 --> 00:34:46.019
know what I did? My OCD person, I cleaned it

00:34:46.019 --> 00:34:50.320
up. I would do the same thing. That's what I'm

00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:52.780
saying. I did throw a window, a thin little TV

00:34:52.780 --> 00:34:54.679
out the window. I didn't like smash anything.

00:34:54.739 --> 00:34:57.659
I tried to like flip stuff over, act all stupid.

00:34:57.659 --> 00:35:00.579
Then like an hour later, I'm like. the hell so

00:35:00.579 --> 00:35:02.500
i cleaned up the entire room i wouldn't even

00:35:02.500 --> 00:35:04.619
take part in that i'd be pissed off people were

00:35:04.619 --> 00:35:06.099
doing right that's what i'm saying disrespectful

00:35:06.099 --> 00:35:10.360
you know what's funny is is one of the guys whenever

00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:13.739
we if we'd ever have to bunk up or whatever i'm

00:35:13.739 --> 00:35:16.440
like the super like cleanest person around. So

00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:18.840
I pick up, if we had pretzels and a little bag

00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:21.260
or, you know, or the towels in the room, I'd

00:35:21.260 --> 00:35:23.500
put it underneath the sink in the, in the, in

00:35:23.500 --> 00:35:25.380
the bathroom. I would tidy up the room and they

00:35:25.380 --> 00:35:27.380
would say, they pay people to do this. Why are

00:35:27.380 --> 00:35:29.000
you doing that? I'm like, dude, it's called respectful.

00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:31.139
I'm just, you know, leaving the room as clean

00:35:31.139 --> 00:35:34.340
as possible. And then, you know, plus I don't

00:35:34.340 --> 00:35:37.119
want to live in a pigsty. I get it. Exactly.

00:35:37.739 --> 00:35:40.719
Exactly. So I was going to say the Orlando hard

00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:44.440
rock used to, and may still have a big, gigantic

00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:47.920
photo of ed behind the front desk oh yeah our

00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:50.800
lives lead singer yeah you yeah yeah i don't

00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:52.320
know if it's still there but anyway it was always

00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:55.119
cool to check in and see oh there's ed and in

00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:59.300
um in uh hard rock in atlantic city there's a

00:35:59.300 --> 00:36:02.079
big picture of live on the wall right before

00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:04.619
you go in the venue it's not it's a it's a like

00:36:04.619 --> 00:36:06.719
a promo picture of you guys right before you

00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:10.739
go into the main venue at the house yeah a long

00:36:10.739 --> 00:36:13.699
time Yeah, because you probably never go through

00:36:13.699 --> 00:36:14.860
that entrance. You're probably coming through

00:36:14.860 --> 00:36:17.440
the back way, but, like, where the fans go in

00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:21.599
to get into the concert. Oh, okay. Yeah. So that's

00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:25.320
dope. You guys got memorabilia probably at a

00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:26.639
bunch of Hard Rocks you don't even know about.

00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:29.280
Oh, sure. Yeah. I was going to say, how does

00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:31.920
that work? Like, does the Hard Rock get this

00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:34.579
stuff donated? Because they got, like, Jimi Hendrix

00:36:34.579 --> 00:36:38.219
guitar and, like, you know, like, cool -ass shit,

00:36:38.300 --> 00:36:41.340
like Neil Peart's drum set and stuff. Where are

00:36:41.340 --> 00:36:42.780
they getting that? Are they buying it? Is it

00:36:42.780 --> 00:36:46.400
getting donated? Do you guys know? I think generally

00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:50.780
it's donated. I believe so. On a temporary basis

00:36:50.780 --> 00:36:53.420
as well. I think they get it back. I believe,

00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:56.539
but I'm not sure. Like a museum deal type. They'll

00:36:56.539 --> 00:36:58.699
display it for a little bit, but they don't own

00:36:58.699 --> 00:37:02.380
it type stuff. Yeah. They probably do like a

00:37:02.380 --> 00:37:04.900
contract for five or 10 years or whatever the

00:37:04.900 --> 00:37:06.860
length of time and go back at the end of that

00:37:06.860 --> 00:37:09.400
contract. And either the artist goes, they want

00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:11.449
their stuff back or. I don't know. That would

00:37:11.449 --> 00:37:13.909
be a guess for me because it can't be, you know,

00:37:13.909 --> 00:37:16.250
I don't know. I'm kind of pissed that the Hard

00:37:16.250 --> 00:37:20.789
Rock Hotel closed in Vegas. Oh, did it? Oh, yeah.

00:37:20.809 --> 00:37:23.670
It's a virgin hotel now. It was the shape of

00:37:23.670 --> 00:37:26.550
a guitar, wasn't it? No, that's the one in Miami.

00:37:26.809 --> 00:37:28.550
Yeah, that's the one in Miami, yeah. Gotcha.

00:37:28.710 --> 00:37:31.929
Yeah. Yeah, Vegas Hard Rock was infamous, man.

00:37:31.989 --> 00:37:34.110
You had a lot of fun there, but Circle Bar was

00:37:34.110 --> 00:37:36.409
always great. They had a great venue there you'd

00:37:36.409 --> 00:37:38.829
play, but that's closed now. They still have

00:37:38.829 --> 00:37:42.460
a venue there, but... now virgin hotel the uh

00:37:42.460 --> 00:37:46.320
little uh road story when we were playing the

00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:49.699
uh the hard rock in vegas uh the event center

00:37:49.699 --> 00:37:54.739
off stage left comes uh hugh mcdonald the bass

00:37:54.739 --> 00:37:57.519
player from bon jovi he was doing a resident

00:37:57.519 --> 00:37:59.599
he was doing a residence there and he walked

00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:03.780
up on on our sound check with a huge bottle of

00:38:03.780 --> 00:38:06.360
jack daniels and he was just like in you know

00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:09.260
he was just the nicest guy you know we i remember

00:38:09.260 --> 00:38:11.219
we sat in the green room after the sound check

00:38:11.219 --> 00:38:14.659
like an hour got to know the guy and it turns

00:38:14.659 --> 00:38:16.739
out he did he did pretty much all the bass lines

00:38:16.739 --> 00:38:19.900
from beginning to end as far as studio oh wow

00:38:19.900 --> 00:38:23.219
okay that's cool which i yeah like run away and

00:38:23.219 --> 00:38:24.980
in and out of love the first record all that

00:38:24.980 --> 00:38:28.440
stuff wow like yeah hugh mcdonald's been like

00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:32.769
the unseen bass player from the beginning That's

00:38:32.769 --> 00:38:35.269
awesome. And then whenever they got rid of Alec

00:38:35.269 --> 00:38:38.090
Van Such or whatever his name was, the bass player,

00:38:38.250 --> 00:38:41.250
they just brought the guy they already had from

00:38:41.250 --> 00:38:44.969
recording onto the stage. Oh, that's cool. We

00:38:44.969 --> 00:38:47.610
toured with Bon Jovi. They were doing a stadium

00:38:47.610 --> 00:38:49.630
tour in Europe and we opened for them back in

00:38:49.630 --> 00:38:54.389
2006 or so. That's awesome. That was fun. They

00:38:54.389 --> 00:38:58.469
were all great guys. John's very nice. Tico Torres

00:38:58.469 --> 00:39:00.989
is great. Richie Sambora. I didn't meet the bass

00:39:00.989 --> 00:39:03.829
player. But everyone was really cool. In fact,

00:39:03.909 --> 00:39:08.369
we got stuck in the festival traffic. So we played

00:39:08.369 --> 00:39:09.670
this one festival with them, and we got stuck

00:39:09.670 --> 00:39:12.269
in the traffic. And so they held the stage for

00:39:12.269 --> 00:39:17.250
us to go on. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Yeah. It was really

00:39:17.250 --> 00:39:19.190
cool to tour with them. They were super nice.

00:39:20.050 --> 00:39:22.130
It's good when you get a tour together when everybody

00:39:22.130 --> 00:39:25.519
is on the same page. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's a huge

00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:26.980
difference in how things flow. It was a huge

00:39:26.980 --> 00:39:29.019
difference. And they gave us full sound and lights

00:39:29.019 --> 00:39:32.059
and shit. We were with Jane's Addiction one time.

00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:34.099
We actually get along with Jane's Addiction,

00:39:34.179 --> 00:39:36.119
but they, I don't know if it was their crew or

00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:38.900
whatever, but we, this is in the mid 2000s as

00:39:38.900 --> 00:39:40.980
well. So we were opening special guests, whatever

00:39:40.980 --> 00:39:44.320
the fuck. And we did, we did the first two shows

00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:46.860
and they gave us like half sound and half lights.

00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:50.280
And we were like, what the fuck, man? Sounds

00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:54.170
like a band that's concerned. Well, yes. And

00:39:54.170 --> 00:39:56.610
so instead of us, instead of us trying to out

00:39:56.610 --> 00:39:58.750
rock them, we fucking, it was, I think it was

00:39:58.750 --> 00:40:00.789
Chad or Ed's idea. We went out and fucking bought

00:40:00.789 --> 00:40:02.949
all this like furniture and put it on stage and

00:40:02.949 --> 00:40:05.630
we played acoustic. It was amazing. And we rocked

00:40:05.630 --> 00:40:11.889
it that way. Wow. I think introduced you guys

00:40:11.889 --> 00:40:15.190
as you were the lube before the sex act. So Jane's

00:40:15.190 --> 00:40:16.690
addiction was the sex act. You guys were the

00:40:16.690 --> 00:40:19.550
lube before, and it was a perfectly way he put

00:40:19.550 --> 00:40:22.510
it because live came out and this was, I think

00:40:22.510 --> 00:40:25.750
this was not far after 9 -11 because I'm pretty

00:40:25.750 --> 00:40:28.409
sure Ed came out and this is when he was wrapping

00:40:28.409 --> 00:40:31.590
the flag around them doing Overcome. So this

00:40:31.590 --> 00:40:34.309
might have been 2001, 2002, somewhere around

00:40:34.309 --> 00:40:38.510
there. And, you know, Live just came on, did

00:40:38.510 --> 00:40:41.090
their amazing acoustic unplugged set and really

00:40:41.090 --> 00:40:43.800
wrapped the crowd. And then I couldn't tell that

00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:45.300
they were half volume, I guess, cause they were

00:40:45.300 --> 00:40:47.179
playing, you know, the acoustic versions and

00:40:47.179 --> 00:40:50.320
then yeah, the complete sex acts came out and

00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.739
there was just women naked in like, uh, on like

00:40:53.739 --> 00:40:56.300
the spinning ropes and like crazy shit going

00:40:56.300 --> 00:40:58.079
on. Like this is, which is all great by the way.

00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:02.300
Yeah. Yeah. Like where's the problem? Right.

00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:05.300
Right. But that was, I mean, James is awesome.

00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:07.239
I love that band. I've always been a fan of them,

00:41:07.300 --> 00:41:09.559
but it was like, Oh, you're giving us half sound

00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:12.039
and half life. What the fuck? Okay. Well, We'll

00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:14.599
do, we'll do unplugged. Fuck it. Brilliant. So,

00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:18.079
so Chad, what did you, what did you do when you

00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:20.619
just played? Like I played a reduced kit with

00:41:20.619 --> 00:41:22.940
like, you know, hot rods kind of thing. Oh yeah.

00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:27.219
Okay, cool. They were all mechanic jumpsuits

00:41:27.219 --> 00:41:30.579
and shit. If I were like overall coveralls. Yeah,

00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:33.840
it was cool. That's when Ed was growing out his

00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:36.599
hair and he kind of looked like he had a, a,

00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.679
I could say this now, a Jew fro. Cause you're,

00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:40.539
you're allowed to say stuff like that nowadays.

00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:46.519
That was his self -professed last ditch effort

00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:49.300
to grow hair. Thank God he ditched that effort.

00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:54.059
In 2006, Chad, when you were doing Bon Jovi,

00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:55.539
and I'm probably going to catch hate for this,

00:41:55.619 --> 00:41:59.679
but was he sounding all nasally and crazy like

00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:02.139
he does now, or was he the old Bon Jovi where

00:42:02.139 --> 00:42:06.079
it was like that dude had a crazy, intense voice

00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:12.349
back in the day? I don't remember. I don't remember.

00:42:12.530 --> 00:42:14.550
I didn't get to see a whole lot of shows because

00:42:14.550 --> 00:42:16.710
we would leave as soon as we were done because

00:42:16.710 --> 00:42:18.769
we had to get out of there and get to the next

00:42:18.769 --> 00:42:22.909
place. Too cool for school, you guys were. I've

00:42:22.909 --> 00:42:25.570
got a question. I want your guys' opinion on

00:42:25.570 --> 00:42:29.050
this. In the past year, there's been a couple

00:42:29.050 --> 00:42:32.429
things that Bon Jovi's released. He's not released,

00:42:32.510 --> 00:42:37.719
but you see online, social media, isn't it? you

00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:41.159
know, to say I feel bad for someone, you know,

00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:42.699
that's been so successful, that's not necessarily

00:42:42.699 --> 00:42:46.059
the right word, but it sucks when you lose your

00:42:46.059 --> 00:42:51.219
instrument. And my personal thoughts, just as

00:42:51.219 --> 00:42:55.460
a, actually as a musician, because I do know

00:42:55.460 --> 00:43:03.260
that lead singers, and I don't mean to categorize,

00:43:05.710 --> 00:43:08.010
I know they'll tally mistakes during a show.

00:43:08.130 --> 00:43:11.250
Like if Chad slips up here or there, you know,

00:43:11.250 --> 00:43:12.969
he'll go talk to him. I've shown him. I heard

00:43:12.969 --> 00:43:14.570
you mess up at the base player. Misses a couple

00:43:14.570 --> 00:43:20.349
of lines, but I see that. Well, exactly. That's

00:43:20.349 --> 00:43:22.610
the difference between a rock star and a hired

00:43:22.610 --> 00:43:28.710
gun. You know what I mean? And, and I just felt

00:43:28.710 --> 00:43:31.980
like. he was doing a disservice to his fans by

00:43:31.980 --> 00:43:33.960
paying the money that they were paying. And he

00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:36.199
wasn't, he wasn't able to deliver. It's not his

00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:38.619
fault. His voice is gone. But I just thought

00:43:38.619 --> 00:43:40.480
like, Hey, you know, either you need to take

00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:42.159
a break or something because people are paying

00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:44.139
a whole lot of money to go to these shows these

00:43:44.139 --> 00:43:48.360
days. And, and either you track it or you, you

00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:50.559
know, I'm not saying track stuff, but like his

00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:53.860
voice was really bad. Yeah. I haven't heard that.

00:43:53.900 --> 00:43:57.360
I didn't know he was having vocal problems. Yeah.

00:43:57.860 --> 00:44:00.380
Yeah. I mean, it does suck. I mean, you gotta

00:44:00.380 --> 00:44:03.400
feel a little empathy for that. I mean, it's

00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:06.599
of course it's hard. Yeah. And you think a lot

00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:08.780
of the ranges he was hitting back in the day,

00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:11.440
it's life. If you get older, your body and you

00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:16.079
know, I, you know, so I get it. What about Vince

00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:17.840
Neil? I mean, there's some good stuff in him

00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:20.960
out there too. Vince Neil, true. You just said

00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:25.579
his name and I started laughing. Those things

00:44:25.579 --> 00:44:29.269
on social media are so great. Well, Sam Hagar

00:44:29.269 --> 00:44:33.030
just said, because he's going out with like Joe

00:44:33.030 --> 00:44:37.489
Satri... With the Van Halen thing. Yeah, and

00:44:37.489 --> 00:44:39.869
he's like, I'm going out now because in two years

00:44:39.869 --> 00:44:42.070
from now, I might not be able to do these notes.

00:44:42.170 --> 00:44:44.389
He's like, I got it still, but like two years

00:44:44.389 --> 00:44:45.829
from now, I don't know, so I'm going to do it

00:44:45.829 --> 00:44:48.469
now. That seems like the chivalrous thing to

00:44:48.469 --> 00:44:50.949
do instead of when you don't got it, still going

00:44:50.949 --> 00:44:52.769
out milking your fans for the loot, you know?

00:44:54.179 --> 00:44:56.400
Absolutely. There's that line somewhere in there.

00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:58.679
And, you know, but, you know, we've done a bunch

00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:02.119
of shows with Sammy. And I mean, that guy's just

00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:06.260
unbelievable. Like from just a human being perspective

00:45:06.260 --> 00:45:08.940
on a personal level, like he's such a great businessman.

00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:11.000
He's always seems to be a very nice guy. He's

00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:13.400
just he's just right on the money every time.

00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.840
And he just, you know, his voice and what's in

00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:18.960
the early 70s. He's in his early 70s. I have

00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:21.659
a buddy, a designer buddy who does a lot of designer

00:45:21.659 --> 00:45:24.500
work for him, for Sammy. Like for his tequila

00:45:24.500 --> 00:45:27.900
and record covers and stuff. And he says he's

00:45:27.900 --> 00:45:31.019
just an amazing guy. Always happy and freaking

00:45:31.019 --> 00:45:36.340
nice. Are you guys into the band Tool? Love Tool.

00:45:37.139 --> 00:45:40.400
Danny Carey, come on. This guy's a freaking monster.

00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:44.760
I didn't know this, but Alex Gray, the artist,

00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:48.780
produces all the visual and art stuff that Tool

00:45:48.780 --> 00:45:51.199
Maynard have on stage. My friend just went to

00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:53.489
their concert at Madison Square Garden. And I

00:45:53.489 --> 00:45:55.409
know Alex Gray's work, but I have no idea what

00:45:55.409 --> 00:45:57.889
he looks like. She knew Alex Gray and his wife,

00:45:57.969 --> 00:45:59.730
went up to him, got pictures with him, and then

00:45:59.730 --> 00:46:01.269
like got the backstory of why they were there.

00:46:01.329 --> 00:46:03.769
They were literally there taking notes as the

00:46:03.769 --> 00:46:05.570
show was going on, like what they want to change,

00:46:05.670 --> 00:46:07.969
what they want to do, which is, I mean. He's

00:46:07.969 --> 00:46:11.550
a skinny older man with a nice ponytail. Yeah.

00:46:11.929 --> 00:46:13.829
And it's great. If I remember correctly. But

00:46:13.829 --> 00:46:15.989
yeah, his art's amazing. I mean, they've put,

00:46:16.150 --> 00:46:18.909
I don't know, from I think maybe the second record

00:46:18.909 --> 00:46:22.050
or third record, they put his art on the cover.

00:46:22.510 --> 00:46:26.489
Ah, smart. I mean, and to incorporate that into

00:46:26.489 --> 00:46:28.510
your stage show, almost like a Pink Floyd, The

00:46:28.510 --> 00:46:32.289
Wall type deal is brilliant, man. Cool was one

00:46:32.289 --> 00:46:34.010
of probably one of my favorite bands I've ever

00:46:34.010 --> 00:46:35.889
seen. And Mike, you'll identify with this because

00:46:35.889 --> 00:46:39.929
Maynard is the anti -lead singer. Like he doesn't

00:46:39.929 --> 00:46:42.230
stand on the front of the stage with the spotlight

00:46:42.230 --> 00:46:44.170
on him. Like, look at me. I'm the lead singer.

00:46:44.449 --> 00:46:47.730
He's fucking literally skulking around in the

00:46:47.730 --> 00:46:51.469
shadows, in the background. Like I saw him move

00:46:51.469 --> 00:46:54.179
an amp. at the show i went to and he's just singing

00:46:54.179 --> 00:46:55.920
back there you're just like what the fuck is

00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:58.400
this guy but it's cool because you constantly

00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:00.780
i mean i concentrated on watching danny like

00:47:00.780 --> 00:47:04.000
fucking rock it out so that was it was a fun

00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:06.679
show it was a great show for me i loved it yeah

00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:09.039
he's more about the music and like the visuals

00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:11.119
that the fans are getting on stage as opposed

00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:13.480
to him being up there taking all the spotlight

00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:17.420
which is cool I guess with a voice like that,

00:47:17.500 --> 00:47:20.000
whether you're in the spotlight or not, they're

00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:21.440
going to know who the fuck you are because that

00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:25.900
guy's voice is legit. This is true. Legit. Hey,

00:47:25.900 --> 00:47:30.360
John, you're from the Jersey area. You ever getting

00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:35.360
into Coheed and Cambria? Yes, of course. So there

00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:37.940
wasn't my type of music, a little heavy for me,

00:47:37.980 --> 00:47:40.800
but a lot of people around me, them and E -Town

00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:44.119
Concrete, bands like that, yeah, they were into

00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:46.489
them for sure. Well, the reason I bring it up

00:47:46.489 --> 00:47:48.469
is they kind of did the same thing where they

00:47:48.469 --> 00:47:53.090
had storybooks, cartoons, visual images to go

00:47:53.090 --> 00:47:55.750
with their releases and that sort of thing. And

00:47:55.750 --> 00:47:58.889
I've never been a huge fan of Coheed. Whether

00:47:58.889 --> 00:48:00.710
it be the voice, the sound, it's just not exactly

00:48:00.710 --> 00:48:02.670
what I would listen to every single day. But

00:48:02.670 --> 00:48:06.130
just as a group from New York, I respect them.

00:48:06.349 --> 00:48:10.090
They've been around for a long time. Yeah. Yeah.

00:48:10.989 --> 00:48:14.880
Coheed, he sounds like Rush a little bit. yeah

00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:17.079
and they're doing something different which is

00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:19.760
cool uh i think you got to nowadays right to

00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:22.260
stick with a when taylor swift is the number

00:48:22.260 --> 00:48:25.820
one touring act and like by far like there's

00:48:25.820 --> 00:48:28.139
something wrong like that should not be i i think

00:48:28.139 --> 00:48:30.699
she's got great music she's a she's a good voice

00:48:30.699 --> 00:48:34.960
for like a generation ish but come on dude this

00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:37.619
is not what should be selling the most money

00:48:37.619 --> 00:48:40.599
you know in music i didn't i didn't watch the

00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:43.329
golden gloves but joe joe coy told a joke about

00:48:43.329 --> 00:48:46.989
her and she did not take it well yourself jesus

00:48:46.989 --> 00:48:50.909
christ yeah i'm hearing it was like she said

00:48:50.909 --> 00:48:52.789
the only difference between the difference between

00:48:52.789 --> 00:48:54.969
the golden globes and nfl is that there's way

00:48:54.969 --> 00:48:56.750
more like something like way more camera shots

00:48:56.750 --> 00:49:02.030
of of uh taylor swift way less taylor and she's

00:49:02.030 --> 00:49:04.829
like pissed no way more on the nfl broadcast

00:49:04.829 --> 00:49:06.929
and then they panned over to her and she was

00:49:06.929 --> 00:49:11.070
like right yeah she's laughing all the way to

00:49:11.070 --> 00:49:13.610
the bank that one though Oh, you know that's

00:49:13.610 --> 00:49:15.909
right. My daughters love her, and I keep telling

00:49:15.909 --> 00:49:17.630
them, like, she's going to break up with Travis.

00:49:17.889 --> 00:49:20.989
Yeah. No, she's not. That's a conspiracy. Oh,

00:49:21.010 --> 00:49:24.409
yeah, she is. That's a conspiracy. So she was

00:49:24.409 --> 00:49:28.010
a big Philly Eagles fan. So the conspiracy is

00:49:28.010 --> 00:49:30.690
that right before playoffs, she's going to dump

00:49:30.690 --> 00:49:33.889
Travis, or is that Travis, Kelsey? Yeah. And

00:49:33.889 --> 00:49:36.989
ruin their playoff run. So we'll see if that's

00:49:36.989 --> 00:49:39.210
true. I think I told you that. I heard that somewhere

00:49:39.210 --> 00:49:41.789
on Instagram. Any conspiracy. Sounded plausible.

00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:46.019
Yeah, it does. I could totally... She's a plant.

00:49:46.460 --> 00:49:48.619
That's more fun to me than they're actually in

00:49:48.619 --> 00:49:51.340
love, you know? But his brother plays on the

00:49:51.340 --> 00:49:53.539
Eagles, right? Travis Kelsey's brother is an

00:49:53.539 --> 00:49:56.579
Eagles. Oh, wow. Oh, man, she fucks his brother.

00:49:56.760 --> 00:49:58.820
That's the real conspiracy. That's right. She

00:49:58.820 --> 00:50:00.639
dumps Travis, starts fucking the brother during

00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:04.059
playoffs. Oh, my God. You heard it here first,

00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:09.699
ladies and gentlemen. That's funny. So, Mike,

00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:12.119
when's the last time you were on stage? How did

00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:15.139
you deal with taking off during 2020, right?

00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:16.519
You had to take some time off with the COVID?

00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:22.699
Yes, yes. You know, since COVID, I've laid low.

00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:25.320
I'll be honest with you. Like, I've been in a

00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:28.820
band since 14. Started playing drums at nine,

00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:32.320
right? From 14 until the pandemic in 2020, I

00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:35.059
turned 50. And I'd literally never taken a break

00:50:35.059 --> 00:50:37.099
from local bands and then getting a regional

00:50:37.099 --> 00:50:39.719
band and the opportunity to tour on a national

00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:42.280
level. I never stopped playing during that time.

00:50:42.340 --> 00:50:44.860
I had an ankle surgery. So I was out for a few

00:50:44.860 --> 00:50:47.300
months. Other than that, I, I, so I felt like

00:50:47.300 --> 00:50:51.019
once we were actually scheduled to play a cruise

00:50:51.019 --> 00:50:53.760
and obviously that got canceled. That was an

00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:59.500
early March of 2020. And my last gig with the

00:50:59.500 --> 00:51:02.539
Brad Michaels band was on Fremont street in Vegas.

00:51:03.079 --> 00:51:06.280
And yeah, that was our last gig of that run.

00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:09.619
And we went home that you know, the next. day

00:51:09.619 --> 00:51:12.480
and then you know within the next week is when

00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:17.239
covid went down and um you know my daughter was

00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:20.360
born when i was like a year after i started touring

00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:22.800
and i don't you know didn't have you know so

00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:25.699
i missed a lot and if anybody knows this chad

00:51:25.699 --> 00:51:29.719
would and about missing your family and i you

00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:31.340
know it was one of those i just it's it's my

00:51:31.340 --> 00:51:34.559
time to roll you know i mean and again to touch

00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:36.840
base with chad on this there's a difference between

00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:41.130
a hired gun and a and the original member like

00:51:41.130 --> 00:51:44.989
you know what i mean and and i've seen patterns

00:51:44.989 --> 00:51:48.789
with a lot of singers where they get rid of the

00:51:48.789 --> 00:51:51.309
band just to get other people to pay less so

00:51:51.309 --> 00:51:53.329
they can make more money and i don't know if

00:51:53.329 --> 00:51:55.789
that's the case at all with live or anything

00:51:55.789 --> 00:51:59.650
like that but um it's it's it's a shame when

00:51:59.650 --> 00:52:02.110
when you know your brothers and you all have

00:52:02.110 --> 00:52:05.409
a common goal and you all work towards that common

00:52:05.409 --> 00:52:08.360
goal like everybody's sleeping in the van or

00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:09.559
everybody's sleeping on the floor you're all

00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:12.800
together but then for things to separate when

00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:14.820
you achieve success i always compare it to a

00:52:14.820 --> 00:52:17.019
relationship it's like a relationship's difficult

00:52:17.019 --> 00:52:19.840
enough must have four or five people in it and

00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:23.699
oh yeah it's hard it's hard yeah so we've obviously

00:52:23.699 --> 00:52:26.539
had our share of uh ups and downs with the band

00:52:26.539 --> 00:52:30.579
so yeah but like i've told john this and like

00:52:30.579 --> 00:52:33.280
when we came back together at 16 after the that

00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:36.360
went down in 2009 2010 where we you know we had

00:52:36.699 --> 00:52:40.099
we sued Ed and whatever got messy, which I, you

00:52:40.099 --> 00:52:44.159
know, later apologized for. But in 16, we came

00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:47.039
back together and I was still friends with Chad

00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:49.960
Taylor and Patrick, the bass player. And, and

00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:52.719
I told them, I was like, listen, we need band

00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:55.119
therapy. Like we should be doing band therapy

00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:57.599
when we come back together. And no one wanted

00:52:57.599 --> 00:52:59.400
to do it. And I'm like, that's, this is going

00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:01.659
to fucking end a disaster. Just like the fucking

00:53:01.659 --> 00:53:05.559
last time. So that's what happened. Well, I mean,

00:53:05.619 --> 00:53:08.900
COVID cut it short and then it ended in disaster.

00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:14.559
But anyway, yeah. I'm sorry, Chad. If COVID never

00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:17.300
happened, do you think that this might have never

00:53:17.300 --> 00:53:19.400
been kind of brought to light and you guys would

00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:21.659
have done that South Africa tour and shit would

00:53:21.659 --> 00:53:23.900
have been... We would have done probably 2020,

00:53:24.059 --> 00:53:26.420
but I think it would have... There was going

00:53:26.420 --> 00:53:29.079
to be a point where it was going to break again.

00:53:29.460 --> 00:53:33.380
Gotcha. Sorry about that. No, what I was going

00:53:33.380 --> 00:53:37.280
to say is like, You know, like Motley Crue's

00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:40.199
been, you know, in my personal opinion, it's

00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:42.239
just kind of been a train wreck the last several

00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:46.460
years or, you know, and but but if they did not

00:53:46.460 --> 00:53:49.440
do that band therapy before Dr. Feelgood, like

00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:52.039
what would the history of Motley Crue have been

00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:54.900
post if they did not make that decision to do

00:53:54.900 --> 00:53:56.980
whatever they did to come together as a group?

00:53:57.739 --> 00:54:00.039
And they still produce great music after they

00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:03.559
did that. you know what i mean and so i'm right

00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:06.239
i'm right on with you dude like it could have

00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:08.440
made a huge difference for people to see other

00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:13.880
perspectives and you know i mean it's you know

00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:16.380
the guitar player and the bass guitar player

00:54:16.380 --> 00:54:19.679
and the singer that that's where the real fissure

00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:21.739
lies in our band which is you know seems to be

00:54:21.739 --> 00:54:25.860
typical but uh i was like we all need to do therapy

00:54:25.860 --> 00:54:29.340
to freaking you know air all the just get everything

00:54:29.340 --> 00:54:32.699
out on the freaking you know, out in the universe

00:54:32.699 --> 00:54:35.500
and discuss it and fucking whatever. You don't

00:54:35.500 --> 00:54:37.139
need to go see a therapist when you're a narcissist.

00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:40.699
Yeah. Well, exactly. That's, this is part of

00:54:40.699 --> 00:54:43.119
this problem, but they don't, they don't, they

00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.500
don't want to see therapists because they may.

00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:51.840
Yeah. Right. Anyway. So I tried, but now everyone's

00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:53.159
like, nah, we don't want to do that. In fact,

00:54:53.219 --> 00:54:56.300
Chad came back to me once he had talked to Ed

00:54:56.300 --> 00:54:58.579
and negotiated whatever the fuck deal they did.

00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:01.550
But, uh, Basically, we're not going to talk about

00:55:01.550 --> 00:55:03.170
anything in the past. We're just going to move

00:55:03.170 --> 00:55:06.070
forward from here. I'm like, great. That always

00:55:06.070 --> 00:55:08.630
works. Just bury your feelings way down deep

00:55:08.630 --> 00:55:10.789
inside and never bring them up again. Right.

00:55:12.389 --> 00:55:15.389
Pretend they don't exist. It's like cheating

00:55:15.389 --> 00:55:17.389
on your girl, getting back together, and then

00:55:17.389 --> 00:55:20.050
asking her to just not bring it up. Exactly.

00:55:21.929 --> 00:55:24.130
We'll talk about that. We'll talk about that,

00:55:24.170 --> 00:55:27.079
yeah. Never works. But yeah, that would have

00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:30.099
been something that could have worked. But like

00:55:30.099 --> 00:55:32.900
you said, with some egos in the band, they might

00:55:32.900 --> 00:55:35.019
not want to hear that unbiased point of view,

00:55:35.099 --> 00:55:37.260
especially if it doesn't align with theirs. So

00:55:37.260 --> 00:55:39.260
you don't know if it could have worked, could

00:55:39.260 --> 00:55:41.500
have made it worse. It's just a fucking crazy

00:55:41.500 --> 00:55:44.179
situation. Well, we needed real management, too.

00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:45.940
Someone that was fucking put their foot down

00:55:45.940 --> 00:55:48.880
and said, you have to do this. We don't have

00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:50.559
that kind of manager. Vlad doesn't have that

00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:53.909
kind of manager. He's a yes man for Ed. That's

00:55:53.909 --> 00:55:57.309
all he does. I mean, for God's sake, fucking

00:55:57.309 --> 00:56:00.210
Metallica did this, right? I mean, Metallica.

00:56:00.670 --> 00:56:05.469
Exactly. James Hetfield and fucking Lars. I mean,

00:56:05.530 --> 00:56:09.769
come on. Yeah, nobody's bigger than him. I mean,

00:56:09.789 --> 00:56:11.710
those two guys are so polar opposite, and they're

00:56:11.710 --> 00:56:15.329
such a great example of at least understanding

00:56:15.329 --> 00:56:18.469
the value each person has in that business entity.

00:56:19.630 --> 00:56:23.280
You know what I mean? I mean, look, I've always

00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:26.400
said like, you know, and I don't know how true

00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:28.980
it is, but like like Master of Puppets was just

00:56:28.980 --> 00:56:31.619
a masterpiece to me as far as the drums. Right.

00:56:32.619 --> 00:56:34.699
Everything on that album, always loved it. So

00:56:34.699 --> 00:56:37.820
I've always been a fan of Lars, but I know a

00:56:37.820 --> 00:56:39.519
couple of times I've seen him, the tempo, this

00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:42.179
or that. And I'm not here to knock anyone, but

00:56:42.179 --> 00:56:44.820
it's like it shows your your normal whatever

00:56:44.820 --> 00:56:47.579
he's a. You know, them two being able to deal

00:56:47.579 --> 00:56:50.539
with each other and continue this, I respect

00:56:50.539 --> 00:56:53.500
that. Because I think Lars would be a lot to

00:56:53.500 --> 00:56:57.059
deal with myself. I think, is Lars more in the

00:56:57.059 --> 00:56:59.079
spotlight than James? Like, I feel like he does

00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:02.579
more interview than James. Lars talks way more

00:57:02.579 --> 00:57:05.300
than James. But maybe that's in general. But

00:57:05.300 --> 00:57:07.980
I think that's the band agreement, that Lars

00:57:07.980 --> 00:57:11.239
is okay being the spokesman. Yeah. You know,

00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:13.980
but I found a lot of drummers like myself and

00:57:13.980 --> 00:57:17.289
Chad were... I'd rather just play my drums and

00:57:17.289 --> 00:57:18.909
stay out of all the rest of the other stuff.

00:57:19.130 --> 00:57:21.650
Yeah. I don't want, I just won't play my drums.

00:57:21.730 --> 00:57:25.230
That's it. And not deal with all the, you know,

00:57:25.230 --> 00:57:28.150
the business side of stuff. Right. You know,

00:57:28.170 --> 00:57:30.730
unfortunately you have to, because shit happens

00:57:30.730 --> 00:57:33.030
where, you know, you got to get involved with

00:57:33.030 --> 00:57:36.530
that stuff. And yeah, sure. It's funny because

00:57:36.530 --> 00:57:38.750
I talk to Chad a bunch now, and I'm like, dude,

00:57:38.789 --> 00:57:40.989
you have a cool -ass personality. Why were you

00:57:40.989 --> 00:57:43.010
so quiet when you were in the band? You should

00:57:43.010 --> 00:57:44.989
have been out there letting your personality

00:57:44.989 --> 00:57:48.130
be known and stuff like that. It humanizes you

00:57:48.130 --> 00:57:51.329
more. I think it's a good thing. I understand

00:57:51.329 --> 00:57:54.230
shyness and stuff like that and not wanting the

00:57:54.230 --> 00:57:56.730
spotlight. Well, in the beginning, we would split

00:57:56.730 --> 00:58:01.670
up doing the press and stuff. In the beginning,

00:58:01.750 --> 00:58:04.579
I'm throwing copper or even Secret Samadhi. And

00:58:04.579 --> 00:58:08.639
then, but if it was like three or more people

00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:11.920
talking like in an interview, I'll just, I just

00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:15.099
won't get involved because it's like, if it's

00:58:15.099 --> 00:58:17.159
just me and someone else, like I'll talk, but

00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:19.460
if it's me and three people or four people, I'm

00:58:19.460 --> 00:58:23.800
just not going to say much. Yeah. But, and then

00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:25.840
it became, well, Ed and Chad are just doing all

00:58:25.840 --> 00:58:27.719
the press and I was like, okay, whatever, fine.

00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:30.219
And then it just became Ed doing all the press.

00:58:30.260 --> 00:58:35.639
Yeah. Okay, great. Perfect. I've heard old interviews

00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:37.440
where it's either you one -on -one with somebody

00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:39.360
or something, and your answers are funny, and

00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:42.840
it shows the human side of you. It doesn't seem

00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:44.480
like something fake is there or you're putting

00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:46.619
on an act. It seems like it's you, which, like

00:58:46.619 --> 00:58:48.619
I said, it humanizes you, and it draws people

00:58:48.619 --> 00:58:50.920
in. So I just think it would have been a good

00:58:50.920 --> 00:58:54.019
way to bring in more fans. Not that you probably

00:58:54.019 --> 00:58:56.059
needed them at the time, but I don't know. It

00:58:56.059 --> 00:58:58.900
just seems like it could have been a cool thing.

00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:00.619
Well, thank you. I appreciate that. That's why

00:59:00.619 --> 00:59:04.050
we're here. Yes. Now. That's right. everything

00:59:04.050 --> 00:59:06.030
he couldn't do in the 90s is coming out in the

00:59:06.030 --> 00:59:10.909
20s 20 exactly so mike tell us about your uh

00:59:10.909 --> 00:59:13.969
your drum furniture business this is really freaking

00:59:13.969 --> 00:59:18.289
cool yeah thank you chad i appreciate it um when

00:59:18.289 --> 00:59:22.630
i think it's probably 2018 or so when uh poison

00:59:22.630 --> 00:59:25.590
was going out on a summer tour and they would

00:59:25.590 --> 00:59:27.869
only do every two or three years they go out

00:59:27.869 --> 00:59:32.880
for 16 days and do 30 dates with def leper whatever

00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:35.099
so i would i knew that the brett michaels band

00:59:35.099 --> 00:59:36.960
would have the summer off when you have the summer

00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:40.780
off you're not getting paid right so i started

00:59:40.780 --> 00:59:43.300
my own side business and basically i just started

00:59:43.300 --> 00:59:45.619
i got went on facebook marketplace and started

00:59:45.619 --> 00:59:49.000
just buying used drums everywhere and so i started

00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:51.280
making snare drum clocks and drum hoop clocks

00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:55.250
i've got a a bass drum that's my uh and i put

00:59:55.250 --> 00:59:57.909
a 22 inch glass top on of it on it and you can

00:59:57.909 --> 01:00:00.130
put like whatever custom drum head you have your

01:00:00.130 --> 01:00:03.090
favorite or put your vip passes or whatever so

01:00:03.090 --> 01:00:06.170
i'm making uh floor tom tables bass drum tables

01:00:06.170 --> 01:00:08.489
there's bass drum head displays i'm basically

01:00:08.489 --> 01:00:12.869
taking a 22 by say 16 or 18 kick drum and i'm

01:00:12.869 --> 01:00:15.369
sawing it down about six inches deep so it lays

01:00:15.369 --> 01:00:18.769
on the wall that's not too far out right um yeah

01:00:18.769 --> 01:00:22.389
so uh yeah all kinds of different stuff and that's

01:00:22.389 --> 01:00:24.860
where i found etsy and i started selling everything

01:00:24.860 --> 01:00:29.079
on etsy and um an instagram shop and then you

01:00:29.079 --> 01:00:33.480
know i've made uh a lot of different bands they're

01:00:33.480 --> 01:00:37.000
uh mainly like drum hoop clocks like i made billy

01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:40.679
bob fortin nice he has a band called the box

01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:46.280
masters right very kind of tom petty feel and

01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:50.099
this concert photographer that i knew in missouri

01:00:50.730 --> 01:00:53.809
connected me with uh Billy Bob when he was playing

01:00:53.809 --> 01:00:57.869
here in Annapolis Maryland and I'd end up making

01:00:57.869 --> 01:01:01.070
a drum hoop clock for Billy Bob and just like

01:01:01.070 --> 01:01:03.090
anything Chad you know people bring you gifts

01:01:03.090 --> 01:01:06.090
you know we on the road that's it's just what

01:01:06.090 --> 01:01:09.170
happens but the next time I saw it like a year

01:01:09.170 --> 01:01:14.409
later came back and he gave me this signed CD

01:01:14.409 --> 01:01:17.210
of the box Masters and I'm like CD right but

01:01:17.210 --> 01:01:20.190
you know and I'm like oh thanks He goes, no,

01:01:20.269 --> 01:01:22.409
no, look at it. I looked at it and he had actually

01:01:22.409 --> 01:01:26.429
put the image of the drum hoop clock on the album.

01:01:26.510 --> 01:01:30.610
Oh, wow. Nice. Yeah. And I'm a fan of his acting,

01:01:30.670 --> 01:01:32.969
his movies and his music's good, too. So I thought

01:01:32.969 --> 01:01:36.329
that was kind of cool. Jake Summers from Luke,

01:01:36.329 --> 01:01:41.750
Luke Holmes made him a clock. You know, in fact,

01:01:41.829 --> 01:01:44.909
John, you've got the foam soundproofing stuff.

01:01:45.530 --> 01:01:48.050
Maybe I can make a gracious two drum hoop clock

01:01:48.050 --> 01:01:51.230
to put either behind one of you guys or, you

01:01:51.230 --> 01:01:53.369
know, to promote the show or just to have your

01:01:53.369 --> 01:01:56.170
little sign, you know, or whatever. That'd be

01:01:56.170 --> 01:02:01.449
awesome. Yeah, it'd be great. Before you go,

01:02:01.449 --> 01:02:03.650
just tell them your Etsy store and the Instagram,

01:02:03.769 --> 01:02:05.010
because I know people are going to want to check

01:02:05.010 --> 01:02:07.670
this stuff out before I forget to ask you. Yeah,

01:02:07.750 --> 01:02:10.010
thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah, it's very straight.

01:02:10.070 --> 01:02:13.199
Instagram is at custom drum decor. Cool. And

01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:15.519
it's the same thing at Etsy. If you type in Etsy

01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:18.639
at custom drum decor, you see a whole ton of

01:02:18.639 --> 01:02:21.539
different drum products. So I take anything like

01:02:21.539 --> 01:02:25.099
cymbal clocks or, you know, whatever. So or like

01:02:25.099 --> 01:02:28.019
something like that behind me. I've got a drum

01:02:28.019 --> 01:02:30.840
lamp over here where I take rack toms and I install

01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:33.980
a wooden bar in the center of it and drill a

01:02:33.980 --> 01:02:36.880
hole and it lays right on the lamp stand. So

01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:39.940
you can have a rack tom lampshade in your room

01:02:39.940 --> 01:02:43.690
or. Yeah. were you into construction before you

01:02:43.690 --> 01:02:46.309
started this like how did you get really wow

01:02:46.309 --> 01:02:50.250
never yeah never did uh any type of like i got

01:02:50.250 --> 01:02:53.090
my band saw circular saw got my dremel tool i

01:02:53.090 --> 01:02:56.269
got you know it's and the pandemic was a perfect

01:02:56.269 --> 01:02:58.829
opportunity to really kind of push production

01:02:58.829 --> 01:03:01.550
and own your skills create more products and

01:03:01.550 --> 01:03:05.650
and uh usually october november is the best months

01:03:05.650 --> 01:03:07.650
for me i load up through etsy and some of these

01:03:07.650 --> 01:03:12.099
other sites online and custom orders too so Um,

01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:15.760
but yeah, it seems to me. Oh, sorry. Go ahead,

01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:17.760
Jeff. I was going to say, Mike, you should, when

01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:19.199
I'm, when I'm back in Pennsylvania next time,

01:03:19.219 --> 01:03:21.500
you should come up to York and check out the

01:03:21.500 --> 01:03:24.320
studio and the, and the building we have up there.

01:03:24.940 --> 01:03:29.159
And, uh, hang out. Could a piece of your, uh,

01:03:29.179 --> 01:03:32.179
drum, drum furniture in there somewhere or a

01:03:32.179 --> 01:03:34.719
plot. That'd be freaking cool. Yeah. I might

01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:36.599
be back at that towards the end of January, but

01:03:36.599 --> 01:03:38.280
I'll let you know when I'm back there for sure.

01:03:38.340 --> 01:03:40.730
Cause. It's a, it's, it's fun to come up and

01:03:40.730 --> 01:03:44.469
check out the place. Beautiful. So Chad, I got

01:03:44.469 --> 01:03:46.269
a question for you. There's like one of your

01:03:46.269 --> 01:03:48.550
YouTube videos, a lot of the videos, like, especially

01:03:48.550 --> 01:03:50.710
the one where you're doing more recently where

01:03:50.710 --> 01:03:54.130
you're doing Iris, right? Where is that? Is that

01:03:54.130 --> 01:03:55.909
New York? Yeah, that's in New York. That's the

01:03:55.909 --> 01:03:58.730
studio in New York. Perfect. Okay. Yeah. I wasn't

01:03:58.730 --> 01:04:00.230
sure. Cause I'm looking at, I'm like, wow, that's

01:04:00.230 --> 01:04:04.070
a nice space. Yeah. It's very nice. The rooftop

01:04:04.070 --> 01:04:06.090
long story about it. I'll tell you when, when

01:04:06.090 --> 01:04:09.699
I see you in person. The rooftop bar and outdoor

01:04:09.699 --> 01:04:13.360
seating up there is legit as fuck, too. It's

01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:15.780
just a cool spot. There's apartments. There's

01:04:15.780 --> 01:04:18.860
crazy studios in there. Yeah, it's where I stay

01:04:18.860 --> 01:04:23.119
when I go to Pennsylvania. Okay. And who's still

01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:26.719
in York? Your family? My mom and my brother still

01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:28.280
live there. Actually, my brother is kind of the

01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:30.559
supervisor of the building. But yeah, my mom

01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:33.420
is there. I have tons of family in York. That's

01:04:33.420 --> 01:04:35.960
where all my family is. My father passed away

01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:41.210
in 2010. My father did, too, in 2010. Oh, really?

01:04:41.349 --> 01:04:48.070
Wow. Sorry, guys. We'll appreciate it. The walls

01:04:48.070 --> 01:04:50.869
at the studio, Mike, you could flip them to where

01:04:50.869 --> 01:04:52.969
you have it either bouncing off the walls, the

01:04:52.969 --> 01:04:55.289
sound, or where it deads the sound. It's kind

01:04:55.289 --> 01:04:58.590
of a cool little feature. Wow. Yeah. It's state

01:04:58.590 --> 01:05:01.150
-of -the -art, man. I mean, it's beautiful. Bill

01:05:01.150 --> 01:05:03.369
said I'm supposed to call him my fake stepbrother.

01:05:04.769 --> 01:05:11.059
Your brother -in -law. He calls himself fake

01:05:11.059 --> 01:05:15.139
Uncle Bill to my kids. Fake Uncle Bill. Oh, he's

01:05:15.139 --> 01:05:17.539
definitely an Uncle Bill for sure. Uncle Billy.

01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:18.920
I think I'm going to start calling him Uncle

01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:20.860
Bill. He might not like that though. I don't

01:05:20.860 --> 01:05:24.079
really like that. He's my age. Uncle Bill. My

01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:28.340
friend has nieces and nephews that are older

01:05:28.340 --> 01:05:30.400
than him and it just blows my mind to have an

01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:32.920
older person call a younger person aunt or uncle.

01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:35.280
It's like strange to me. It's never my family.

01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:39.869
Yeah. um his father has like and the reason why

01:05:39.869 --> 01:05:42.590
this is he's got marriages and kids from multiple

01:05:42.590 --> 01:05:45.510
different women so that's how good yeah makes

01:05:45.510 --> 01:05:50.969
sense spreading around um i put the uh i tagged

01:05:50.969 --> 01:05:55.610
uh your the company in in my in my link or my

01:05:55.610 --> 01:05:57.989
uh my post on instagram so people can go there

01:05:57.989 --> 01:06:00.630
and find it as well sweet awesome thank you i

01:06:00.630 --> 01:06:03.690
appreciate it i appreciate it you called it like

01:06:04.110 --> 01:06:06.170
custom drum furniture but it seems to me it's

01:06:06.170 --> 01:06:08.909
more like while it could be you know useful as

01:06:08.909 --> 01:06:10.530
furniture it seems like it's almost like art

01:06:10.530 --> 01:06:12.949
as opposed to even though it has a functional

01:06:12.949 --> 01:06:15.489
use as furniture do you consider this an art

01:06:15.489 --> 01:06:19.610
or are you just building your furniture uh yeah

01:06:19.610 --> 01:06:22.469
both i mean to give you the perfect example uh

01:06:22.469 --> 01:06:28.050
in the pandemic i got a a message from um he's

01:06:28.050 --> 01:06:31.250
a big promoter of the 80s bands um he used to

01:06:31.250 --> 01:06:35.929
manage poison and cinderella and um a whole bunch

01:06:35.929 --> 01:06:37.929
of other bands and he's got i don't know five

01:06:37.929 --> 01:06:41.030
or six cabins in the pigeon forge area he lives

01:06:41.030 --> 01:06:43.989
in california um he actually owns the monsters

01:06:43.989 --> 01:06:46.050
of rock cruise if you've ever heard of that right

01:06:46.050 --> 01:06:50.829
yeah so so he saw a post online that the bass

01:06:50.829 --> 01:06:53.210
player that was with us in the brett michaels

01:06:53.210 --> 01:06:55.329
band who was eric brittingham the bass player

01:06:55.329 --> 01:06:58.730
from cinderella uh he was our bass player in

01:06:58.730 --> 01:07:03.170
the band eric had bought a a it's an led floor

01:07:03.170 --> 01:07:06.829
tom so what i do is i get it's a floor 16 inch

01:07:06.829 --> 01:07:10.010
floor tom i install led lights inside of it i

01:07:10.010 --> 01:07:11.989
put a brand new white head on it and i put a

01:07:11.989 --> 01:07:15.949
16 inch uh glass top on it you got a remote so

01:07:15.949 --> 01:07:18.030
if you have you know your man cave or whatever

01:07:18.030 --> 01:07:20.170
room dim it down it's real nice to have on there

01:07:20.170 --> 01:07:23.269
eric liked this finish on this one floor tom

01:07:23.269 --> 01:07:26.110
i had it was a red marble kind of finish so he

01:07:26.110 --> 01:07:28.789
ordered it nice when he got it eric posted a

01:07:28.789 --> 01:07:31.559
picture of it Larry Moran saw this and contacted

01:07:31.559 --> 01:07:34.260
me and he goes, hey, let's go back to your art

01:07:34.260 --> 01:07:36.659
question. He goes, hey, it's my wife's birthday.

01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:39.179
He goes, I love the floor tom table, but I'm

01:07:39.179 --> 01:07:42.139
thinking, can you make something that's a floor

01:07:42.139 --> 01:07:46.780
tom, but you have a lamp, you know, almost like

01:07:46.780 --> 01:07:49.039
a table that has a connecting lamp to it, right?

01:07:49.619 --> 01:07:53.519
And I'd never made a product like that. So I

01:07:53.519 --> 01:07:56.780
ended up making this where I took a... a boom

01:07:56.780 --> 01:07:59.260
stand, a simple boom stand, and I installed it

01:07:59.260 --> 01:08:01.860
in a block of wood that I installed on the floor

01:08:01.860 --> 01:08:05.679
tom. So you had an extension out of it, and then

01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:10.039
I put the rack tom on that stand, right? But

01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:14.880
the kicker is he wanted the Frankenstein design.

01:08:15.420 --> 01:08:20.819
The Van Halen, Eddie's guitar. If anybody looks

01:08:20.819 --> 01:08:24.000
at that, like it's... it's one thing to create

01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:27.560
that kind of crazy design on a flat surface but

01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:29.619
when you're doing it on something round it's

01:08:29.619 --> 01:08:33.260
a whole different thing so i got the exact tone

01:08:33.260 --> 01:08:38.560
of red and then um it came out amazing and if

01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:42.479
i've only made one of them um the downside is

01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:46.680
is i ended up making a 14 inch i get a snare

01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:49.159
drum hoop and i ended up making the frankenstein

01:08:49.159 --> 01:08:53.680
drum hoop clock right I posted it on Etsy, and

01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:56.420
it didn't take not even a week for the intellectual

01:08:56.420 --> 01:08:58.979
property lawyer, Eddie Van Halen, to contact

01:08:58.979 --> 01:09:02.159
me. Oh, shit. Or to contact Etsy. Wow. And go,

01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:05.420
no, no, no. And it was probably just a few months

01:09:05.420 --> 01:09:09.560
after Eddie had passed. So I was like, delete.

01:09:10.399 --> 01:09:15.720
So if I do custom stuff like that, I might just

01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:18.819
make it and send it. There's so much stuff I've

01:09:18.819 --> 01:09:22.300
never posted because I don't. 20 issues you know

01:09:22.300 --> 01:09:25.239
what i mean but was that frankenstein thing patented

01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:27.760
or whatever like isn't it just something like

01:09:27.760 --> 01:09:30.640
that was there like did he have any trademarks

01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:35.239
on it or patents on it like look i i i would

01:09:35.239 --> 01:09:37.560
pay i would pay him a percentage for it like

01:09:37.560 --> 01:09:40.039
i have no issues with it why i'm not there's

01:09:40.039 --> 01:09:42.699
nothing i'm trying to do like for musicians you

01:09:42.699 --> 01:09:45.680
release music as long as i you know i get a you

01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:48.359
know piece of the the art that i created yeah

01:09:48.359 --> 01:09:52.319
they were cool Right. Um, but I just, you know,

01:09:52.319 --> 01:09:55.560
I just wanted to eliminate the issue and I just

01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:57.760
got rid of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Less headache

01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:01.840
for you. The better. Yeah. What's your, uh, what's

01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:05.600
your website again for the drum furniture? Um,

01:10:05.680 --> 01:10:07.920
just custom drum decor. I actually dropped the

01:10:07.920 --> 01:10:10.479
website to be honest with you, man. I was doing

01:10:10.479 --> 01:10:12.960
so much traffic through like say Shopify and

01:10:12.960 --> 01:10:16.079
can't see and these whole decor sites. Yeah.

01:10:16.159 --> 01:10:18.439
Right. and i was being charged i think it was

01:10:18.439 --> 01:10:21.220
like 30 a month just to host my website and have

01:10:21.220 --> 01:10:24.380
it up and i'm looking at my numbers and yeah

01:10:24.380 --> 01:10:26.560
and but and i do web design too so i created

01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:28.819
the entire page and everything else a really

01:10:28.819 --> 01:10:31.060
nice looking website so i can relaunch it like

01:10:31.060 --> 01:10:33.239
if i ever wanted to but it was just a thing where

01:10:33.239 --> 01:10:35.000
i was like so you're not even using it it's like

01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:38.390
yeah makes sense yeah I mean, any business can

01:10:38.390 --> 01:10:40.729
look at stuff and go, well, we're investing here,

01:10:40.850 --> 01:10:42.350
but we're not getting return over here. And I

01:10:42.350 --> 01:10:43.210
was like, well, you know what? I'm just going

01:10:43.210 --> 01:10:44.930
to pull it down for now. All my stuff is coming

01:10:44.930 --> 01:10:47.850
through Etsy or Instagram shop or my Etsy shop

01:10:47.850 --> 01:10:51.909
or whatever else. But I appreciate you asking

01:10:51.909 --> 01:10:55.590
that. Yeah. So my father was a carpenter for,

01:10:55.689 --> 01:10:58.430
I don't know, probably 35 years of his life.

01:10:58.909 --> 01:11:01.890
Wow. Picked up lots of skills from him. I'm curious,

01:11:02.109 --> 01:11:05.350
what kind of saw are you using to cut a 22 -inch

01:11:05.350 --> 01:11:08.840
bass drum? to six inches deep what are you um

01:11:08.840 --> 01:11:14.840
okay so i actually have a hand saw but i don't

01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:17.939
use it um i actually use i there on the dremel

01:11:17.939 --> 01:11:20.199
tool there's a little tiny saw that you can use

01:11:20.199 --> 01:11:23.560
right and i just i i push it through to make

01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:26.800
the cut about that about that wide just into

01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:31.170
the wood and then i take Trying to, it's basically

01:11:31.170 --> 01:11:33.770
a blade, a thin blade, like my finger, about

01:11:33.770 --> 01:11:37.289
that long. And I put it in and I start rolling

01:11:37.289 --> 01:11:40.189
the bass drum around because I've driven, I've

01:11:40.189 --> 01:11:43.430
drawn a line. Right. Like I measure it exactly

01:11:43.430 --> 01:11:45.930
all the way around and I draw a pencil line on

01:11:45.930 --> 01:11:48.670
that mark. And then I use, I'm trying to think

01:11:48.670 --> 01:11:50.149
of the name of the tool. That's how much of a

01:11:50.149 --> 01:11:53.710
carpenter I am. Sawzall. Say it. Sawzall, where

01:11:53.710 --> 01:11:56.109
it's got the, like the. blade sticking out of

01:11:56.109 --> 01:11:57.869
it it's kind of thin and it just goes back and

01:11:57.869 --> 01:11:59.609
forth the saw is all i didn't want to do that

01:11:59.609 --> 01:12:03.609
yeah yeah you hold it right it just goes that

01:12:03.609 --> 01:12:06.250
in a really fast motion and the the blade is

01:12:06.250 --> 01:12:09.850
facing forward and so i just roll it slowly and

01:12:09.850 --> 01:12:12.050
then i lay it down and i sand it out and then

01:12:12.050 --> 01:12:15.550
nice you know yeah so that's what i use and i've

01:12:15.550 --> 01:12:17.510
gotten much better at it so there's you know

01:12:17.510 --> 01:12:20.729
and the great thing is to get a bass drum i can

01:12:20.729 --> 01:12:23.350
make two products out of a bass drum You know

01:12:23.350 --> 01:12:26.069
what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I put LED lights in

01:12:26.069 --> 01:12:28.869
it. A 22 by six is basically the standard size

01:12:28.869 --> 01:12:32.810
I usually make. Right. So yeah. Yeah. I was curious

01:12:32.810 --> 01:12:35.989
about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm fascinated

01:12:35.989 --> 01:12:39.069
that you decided to just pop into that, uh, you

01:12:39.069 --> 01:12:41.689
know, during COVID like that, it, it, that takes

01:12:41.689 --> 01:12:43.850
skills and the fact that you're kind of doing

01:12:43.850 --> 01:12:46.029
it and they're coming out good is like impressive

01:12:46.029 --> 01:12:51.149
to me. Yeah. It's, um, yeah, I. i appreciate

01:12:51.149 --> 01:12:55.210
that um you know i don't know if it's uh lefties

01:12:55.210 --> 01:12:58.630
are artistic or or anything like that but you

01:12:58.630 --> 01:13:03.350
know i don't know um it just seemed like a i

01:13:03.350 --> 01:13:06.449
made a one drum hoop clock and basically what

01:13:06.449 --> 01:13:09.270
i used to do is i used to go to home depot right

01:13:09.270 --> 01:13:12.710
and but when i first started this and when you

01:13:12.710 --> 01:13:16.270
go to the lumber section you see the pallets

01:13:16.270 --> 01:13:19.359
of wood like say it's a Huge boards, and they're

01:13:19.359 --> 01:13:21.819
all stacked up, but you see these little spacers

01:13:21.819 --> 01:13:25.779
that are real long in between that before they

01:13:25.779 --> 01:13:28.439
shipped to Home Depot on the pallet, they put

01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:31.500
these spacers in. I found these spacers, and

01:13:31.500 --> 01:13:34.159
I ended up picking up a whole pile of them, and

01:13:34.159 --> 01:13:36.920
then I went home, and I lined them up together,

01:13:37.220 --> 01:13:40.359
and then I sanded them down, and then I got glue,

01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:43.560
and it became a square, and then I took my bandsaw,

01:13:43.579 --> 01:13:46.180
and I cut a... perfect 14 inch circle basically

01:13:46.180 --> 01:13:48.579
a snare drum head and then i sanded everything

01:13:48.579 --> 01:13:51.340
down so the drum hoop clocks are individual wood

01:13:51.340 --> 01:13:54.100
spacers like i could just get a solid piece of

01:13:54.100 --> 01:13:57.979
wood but i ended up finding a lumber yard that

01:13:57.979 --> 01:13:59.880
basically said yeah come clean up our lumber

01:13:59.880 --> 01:14:03.539
yard with all these free spacers so um yeah so

01:14:03.539 --> 01:14:05.020
that's kind of where it started and then well

01:14:05.020 --> 01:14:06.939
you just glue them all together and use bar clamps

01:14:06.939 --> 01:14:11.960
to keep them in place i use my uh i use my weights

01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:13.899
you know any like these eight pound weights or

01:14:13.899 --> 01:14:17.039
whatever i have them i after i glue i i put the

01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:19.539
weights on top of it so the part that's facing

01:14:19.539 --> 01:14:23.000
down is absolutely flush right which would be

01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:26.060
the front of the drum hoop clock um nice yeah

01:14:26.060 --> 01:14:27.800
then i go through and i sand everything down

01:14:27.800 --> 01:14:30.970
and you know i i Use a ton of different stains.

01:14:31.350 --> 01:14:34.569
I've gotten used to polyurethane and how to use

01:14:34.569 --> 01:14:37.729
that with a matte satin gloss, like what is good

01:14:37.729 --> 01:14:40.529
for what. And it's all a process. And I've made

01:14:40.529 --> 01:14:42.489
so many over the last couple of years that, you

01:14:42.489 --> 01:14:44.789
know, the products are actually really nice now.

01:14:45.310 --> 01:14:47.050
Not that they weren't, but they just got much

01:14:47.050 --> 01:14:50.550
better. Sure. Things get better with time. That's

01:14:50.550 --> 01:14:54.090
right. And things get more pricey with time,

01:14:54.109 --> 01:14:57.109
too. Don't forget that. The higher that price

01:14:57.109 --> 01:15:00.170
goes. You know, that's right. Get in on the ground

01:15:00.170 --> 01:15:03.350
floor, people. Hey, you know, it's funny. When

01:15:03.350 --> 01:15:05.289
I met Chad, I was like, I remember saying something

01:15:05.289 --> 01:15:08.170
to him because Chad plays barefooted. Yeah. Right.

01:15:09.470 --> 01:15:14.649
And so I'm curious, where did that start? Oh,

01:15:15.390 --> 01:15:17.529
I got to wear these shoes. I have to do this

01:15:17.529 --> 01:15:19.729
or do that. Where did the barefoot thing come?

01:15:20.170 --> 01:15:24.130
It started in my bedroom. When I got my first

01:15:24.130 --> 01:15:27.050
kit when I was like 12, I bought a kit for my

01:15:27.050 --> 01:15:29.479
kid in the neighborhood. i still have it's called

01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:32.859
a reuther and it's still in storage it's a building

01:15:32.859 --> 01:15:36.239
actually but um wow that's great so i set it

01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:38.039
up in my bedroom and i just didn't put shoes

01:15:38.039 --> 01:15:41.420
on just got would practice every day and not

01:15:41.420 --> 01:15:44.399
never put shoes on so just became a thing that's

01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:46.899
it i actually walk around cbgb's and bare feet

01:15:46.899 --> 01:15:50.659
can you play with many times what's that can

01:15:50.659 --> 01:15:52.460
you play with shoes or does it feel restrictive

01:15:52.460 --> 01:15:56.270
to you I've never tried. I mean, I'll play with

01:15:56.270 --> 01:15:58.109
socks on sometimes, but I've never put on shoes

01:15:58.109 --> 01:16:00.390
and tried to play. Oh, so you've never? Especially

01:16:00.390 --> 01:16:03.890
with my kit. My kit is set. If I put shoes on,

01:16:03.949 --> 01:16:06.250
then everything's a little too low for me. So

01:16:06.250 --> 01:16:11.170
I'll start hitting rims and stuff. Wow. Every

01:16:11.170 --> 01:16:13.630
live show you've played has been barefoot. Yes.

01:16:13.949 --> 01:16:16.229
Oh, I thought it was like majority, like 9 out

01:16:16.229 --> 01:16:18.350
of 10. That's pretty cool. All right. We were

01:16:18.350 --> 01:16:23.600
touring with Counting Crows in 2000. And we played

01:16:23.600 --> 01:16:27.159
a show in Phoenix and it was a hundred degrees

01:16:27.159 --> 01:16:30.579
on stage that night. The next night we were in

01:16:30.579 --> 01:16:36.039
Denver and it was raining. It's 32 and raining

01:16:36.039 --> 01:16:38.359
when we're on stage. So that was, that was some

01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:42.539
cold feet on the metal pedals. Wow. I would be

01:16:42.539 --> 01:16:44.300
like, this is not cool. So you went from a hundred

01:16:44.300 --> 01:16:47.079
degrees down to 32 and still didn't throw like

01:16:47.079 --> 01:16:50.789
a fucking. rubber i was i get i get i didn't

01:16:50.789 --> 01:16:52.770
want to put in put any socks on because i don't

01:16:52.770 --> 01:16:55.109
know if my feet will start slipping off the pedals

01:16:55.109 --> 01:16:58.050
and stuff but anyway so they got warmed up after

01:16:58.050 --> 01:17:01.130
a couple shows or a couple songs dedicated craft

01:17:01.130 --> 01:17:04.409
man that's that takes commitment yeah the uh

01:17:04.409 --> 01:17:06.529
some hippie singers that do that too but they

01:17:06.529 --> 01:17:08.109
always have carpet underneath the microphone

01:17:08.109 --> 01:17:10.909
so they're like not on the bare stage like uh

01:17:10.909 --> 01:17:14.069
jason mraz oh yeah i wear flip -flops to and

01:17:14.069 --> 01:17:16.210
from stage and then when we're standing like

01:17:16.210 --> 01:17:18.640
before the show We would usually stand around

01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:20.340
and get ready to go on stuff, but I'm always

01:17:20.340 --> 01:17:22.560
like really cognizant of people stepping on my

01:17:22.560 --> 01:17:25.180
feet. So yeah. So I was trying to stay out of

01:17:25.180 --> 01:17:27.199
the way. That's how, you know, you're successful

01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:29.699
when you wear flip flops to work and it's just

01:17:29.699 --> 01:17:31.199
like, I'm going to take them off and play right

01:17:31.199 --> 01:17:33.819
now. That's, that's the, that's the key to success

01:17:33.819 --> 01:17:36.640
right there. So Mike, what do you, you're fully,

01:17:36.659 --> 01:17:39.140
you're fully, uh, shoed up when you're, when

01:17:39.140 --> 01:17:42.680
you're drumming. You wear a particular kind of

01:17:42.680 --> 01:17:47.479
shoes. Yeah, you know, usually Adidas, the black

01:17:47.479 --> 01:17:51.619
Adidas ones that just... Your Yeezys you got

01:17:51.619 --> 01:17:56.880
on? My Adidas kicks, hang on, my Adidas kicks

01:17:56.880 --> 01:18:00.319
I got, like, you know, yeah, they just seem to,

01:18:00.460 --> 01:18:03.020
you know, I know there were drummers that go,

01:18:03.140 --> 01:18:05.239
I have to play in wrestling shoes and, you know,

01:18:05.260 --> 01:18:08.359
stuff like that. You're like, all right, you

01:18:08.359 --> 01:18:09.979
know, everybody's got their thing. Everyone's

01:18:09.979 --> 01:18:12.199
got their thing, exactly. Everybody's got their

01:18:12.199 --> 01:18:15.560
thing, and, you know, that's cool. But, you know,

01:18:15.579 --> 01:18:17.100
it's funny because when I started touring and

01:18:17.100 --> 01:18:19.020
we started doing stuff like outside shows in

01:18:19.020 --> 01:18:22.020
Minnesota or, you know, if you play in Canada

01:18:22.020 --> 01:18:24.439
or Colorado and that sort of thing, and I'd never

01:18:24.439 --> 01:18:27.399
played with gloves before or even really hot,

01:18:27.500 --> 01:18:31.100
humid shows where your sticks may slip up a little

01:18:31.100 --> 01:18:33.659
bit or whatever. And I did it a couple of times.

01:18:33.760 --> 01:18:36.760
You know, my tech would have a pair, and it was

01:18:36.760 --> 01:18:39.760
always uncomfortable for me wearing gloves. I

01:18:39.760 --> 01:18:42.739
can imagine. I tried that for a minute and then

01:18:42.739 --> 01:18:45.180
Promark came out with that active grip, which

01:18:45.180 --> 01:18:47.779
is what I use now. It's fucking great. It just

01:18:47.779 --> 01:18:50.779
gets a little, also just a little bit tacky with

01:18:50.779 --> 01:18:53.399
heat and just, they just stick right in your

01:18:53.399 --> 01:18:55.840
hands. It's freaking awesome. You tape the stick

01:18:55.840 --> 01:18:58.840
or your hand, Chad? I don't tape anything. It's

01:18:58.840 --> 01:19:01.579
a, it's a, it's a called active grip. They dip

01:19:01.579 --> 01:19:04.140
the sticks in it and it's like this little, it

01:19:04.140 --> 01:19:06.880
just gets activated with, with heat and it gets

01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:09.979
a little bit sticky. That's cool. Not like overly

01:19:09.979 --> 01:19:12.319
so, but like the sticks will not fall out of

01:19:12.319 --> 01:19:15.619
your hands. Almost like batting gloves. Hey,

01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:20.140
Chad, a good trick. A good trick is, is using,

01:19:20.180 --> 01:19:24.300
you know, skateboarders using sex wax for their

01:19:24.300 --> 01:19:27.500
boards. Yep. You get that sex wax and just go

01:19:27.500 --> 01:19:28.840
up and down the bottom of the stick or whatever.

01:19:28.960 --> 01:19:34.199
It's exactly, it's not sticky. Yeah. i did that

01:19:34.199 --> 01:19:35.720
for a little bit but then there was a product

01:19:35.720 --> 01:19:38.680
by a company called groove juice they make symbol

01:19:38.680 --> 01:19:41.439
cleaner and they have a thing called stick grip

01:19:41.439 --> 01:19:44.640
and it's just a little spray can you go like

01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:47.180
that and if you let it sit for a minute pick

01:19:47.180 --> 01:19:50.079
it up and it's perfectly fine uh but then i used

01:19:50.079 --> 01:19:53.920
to order from vader the uh the rosin the resin

01:19:53.920 --> 01:19:56.500
rosin bags or whatever you know like gym issues

01:19:58.980 --> 01:20:01.279
and I would have it hanging right off to the

01:20:01.279 --> 01:20:03.500
left. And if there was a show of my hands, I

01:20:03.500 --> 01:20:05.560
just put my hand on the, I don't know how to

01:20:05.560 --> 01:20:07.460
pronounce it, resin, rosin bag, whatever it's

01:20:07.460 --> 01:20:12.119
called. The white powder. And that was awesome.

01:20:12.140 --> 01:20:16.739
That always worked great. I think it's just asbestos

01:20:16.739 --> 01:20:20.939
they call that. Yeah. I couldn't do the gloves

01:20:20.939 --> 01:20:23.079
either. Plus, I don't like the way they look.

01:20:24.460 --> 01:20:26.720
Yeah. get some calluses on your hands, guys.

01:20:26.800 --> 01:20:28.359
Come on, let's fucking do this. You look like

01:20:28.359 --> 01:20:32.520
Madonna from like, you don't play for a while

01:20:32.520 --> 01:20:33.899
and you come back. The first few shows, your

01:20:33.899 --> 01:20:37.119
hands are just like fucking the grinder me. Oh,

01:20:37.159 --> 01:20:41.880
it's right. Oh, it's not good. Yeah. I'm a very

01:20:41.880 --> 01:20:44.399
amateur guitar player. And I know that very well.

01:20:44.439 --> 01:20:46.239
Like if you just stop playing, like back in the

01:20:46.239 --> 01:20:48.279
day when I was playing every day for years, it

01:20:48.279 --> 01:20:50.000
took a while for the calluses to go down. But

01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:52.119
now I pick up a guitar, like. two or three times

01:20:52.119 --> 01:20:54.300
a year and each time it's like my fingers start

01:20:54.300 --> 01:20:57.399
to split and get gross pretty quick like how

01:20:57.399 --> 01:20:59.899
the hell did i build up those deep calluses back

01:20:59.899 --> 01:21:01.819
in the day now i'm like a little girly with it

01:21:01.819 --> 01:21:04.640
start playing just play enough build right up

01:21:04.640 --> 01:21:06.479
takes me about a week week and a half and my

01:21:06.479 --> 01:21:09.739
hands are all calloused yeah yeah come back like

01:21:09.739 --> 01:21:11.819
that okay that's not bad no i guess i just have

01:21:11.819 --> 01:21:14.100
no patience for it nowadays i used to i used

01:21:14.100 --> 01:21:16.760
to love playing the guitar now it's like i don't

01:21:16.760 --> 01:21:19.539
know it's not as enjoyable as it once was I think,

01:21:19.539 --> 01:21:21.939
I think, I think I re I think I reached my, uh,

01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:24.180
skill level with it. And then like, that was

01:21:24.180 --> 01:21:25.779
it. There was, I hit a plateau and there was

01:21:25.779 --> 01:21:29.159
no going past it, I think. Right. Right. So then

01:21:29.159 --> 01:21:32.960
I got a little bored, but, um, so, so Mike, are

01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:35.140
you, are you planning on doing any more of those

01:21:35.140 --> 01:21:37.539
charity things? I know that you said that 2022,

01:21:37.760 --> 01:21:40.020
I believe was the last one you did for the, uh,

01:21:40.039 --> 01:21:42.180
for the cancer one, but that seems like something

01:21:42.180 --> 01:21:44.680
you might, uh, like to get into while you're,

01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:47.890
you know, doing your furniture and also like

01:21:47.890 --> 01:21:51.829
in between or not. Yeah. I, I, you know, I actually,

01:21:51.930 --> 01:21:55.649
each year I send at least two different products

01:21:55.649 --> 01:21:58.750
to the breast cancer and stick a foundation for

01:21:58.750 --> 01:22:02.229
them to auction those products. And then I, and

01:22:02.229 --> 01:22:06.510
then I generally start my own fundraiser page

01:22:06.510 --> 01:22:13.869
through them to help raise money. And yeah, it's.

01:22:15.100 --> 01:22:18.319
You know, I believe in karma. I believe that

01:22:18.319 --> 01:22:21.800
if you do good things, that good things will

01:22:21.800 --> 01:22:24.340
come. You know, I mean, I don't know. A lot of

01:22:24.340 --> 01:22:26.819
us can be angry and upset about stuff. And, you

01:22:26.819 --> 01:22:31.560
know, I don't try to avoid that as much as I

01:22:31.560 --> 01:22:34.520
can, you know. And I think, like, I've had skin

01:22:34.520 --> 01:22:39.579
cancer. I've had seven skin cancer removals in

01:22:39.579 --> 01:22:43.890
the last, like, I don't know, six years. I mean,

01:22:43.909 --> 01:22:46.130
I could send it to Chad or whatever, but I've

01:22:46.130 --> 01:22:48.270
had like the entire left side of my nose replaced.

01:22:48.909 --> 01:22:54.489
Really? You would never be able to tell. It looks

01:22:54.489 --> 01:22:58.670
great. It was so bad, John. And what sucks is

01:22:58.670 --> 01:23:04.189
I noticed when I started touring in 2014, I had

01:23:04.189 --> 01:23:07.649
like a freckle on the left side of my nose. It

01:23:07.649 --> 01:23:13.420
looked like something right under the skin. prone

01:23:13.420 --> 01:23:15.920
to it like although i've never had a skin skin

01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:18.859
cancer issue prior to that i'm irish you know

01:23:18.859 --> 01:23:21.699
i got freckles and light skin you know both my

01:23:21.699 --> 01:23:23.279
sisters are redheads you got red hair in the

01:23:23.279 --> 01:23:30.119
family and i i pushed going to the doctor back

01:23:30.119 --> 01:23:33.960
because the type of torn what we were doing uh

01:23:33.960 --> 01:23:37.960
with the brett michaels band was um we might

01:23:37.960 --> 01:23:41.560
go on a on a bus run for a week or two but then

01:23:41.560 --> 01:23:44.720
we come home and then we go out for multiple

01:23:44.720 --> 01:23:48.020
fly dates you know fly out wednesday do gigs

01:23:48.020 --> 01:23:50.140
thursday friday saturday whatever fly home sunday

01:23:50.140 --> 01:23:52.920
come home for a few days go back out and i just

01:23:52.920 --> 01:23:57.640
i put it off i found out it was a skin cancer

01:23:57.640 --> 01:24:00.199
but i put it off because i think and this is

01:24:00.199 --> 01:24:03.310
and chad will understand this that when you get

01:24:03.310 --> 01:24:05.890
to that level that if you call in sick to work

01:24:05.890 --> 01:24:08.270
somebody else might take your job at least when

01:24:08.270 --> 01:24:10.489
you're a hired gun you know what i mean and so

01:24:10.489 --> 01:24:13.250
i really didn't want to miss any time for work

01:24:13.250 --> 01:24:18.890
and then um it was i think 2016 when it was announced

01:24:18.890 --> 01:24:21.189
that poison was going to go out on a summer tour

01:24:21.189 --> 01:24:23.949
i immediately set up all everything i could and

01:24:23.949 --> 01:24:26.210
i didn't realize how bad it was going to be so

01:24:26.210 --> 01:24:27.689
they had to basically cut the whole left side

01:24:27.689 --> 01:24:33.750
of my my nose off right and They ended up cutting

01:24:33.750 --> 01:24:39.029
from here to here about an inch thick, and they

01:24:39.029 --> 01:24:43.390
flapped it down onto my nose. What? Right? It's

01:24:43.390 --> 01:24:46.609
called a forehead flapping closure procedure.

01:24:47.029 --> 01:24:50.289
What? And if you look at my left eyebrow, it

01:24:50.289 --> 01:24:52.609
dips down a little bit more than my right one.

01:24:52.689 --> 01:24:55.270
Yeah. Because the cut went up this way, right?

01:24:55.470 --> 01:24:59.000
And so I had just... a scar from here to here

01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:01.359
and it turns out you have millions of nerve endings

01:25:01.359 --> 01:25:03.760
from here to here so for two years after the

01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:07.500
surgery i couldn't feel my head oh wow from here

01:25:07.500 --> 01:25:09.300
all the way to the back of my like the middle

01:25:09.300 --> 01:25:11.760
of the top of my head couldn't feel anything

01:25:11.760 --> 01:25:14.699
and this little thing would stay there for two

01:25:14.699 --> 01:25:18.359
weeks why basically you know kind of grow to

01:25:18.359 --> 01:25:20.460
my nose and then they cut here and they cut here

01:25:20.460 --> 01:25:24.399
and they removed it and When the plastic surgeon

01:25:24.399 --> 01:25:26.239
told me about the procedure they were going to

01:25:26.239 --> 01:25:28.039
do, I actually started laughing. I was like,

01:25:28.060 --> 01:25:33.640
are you kidding me? You're going to cut my forehead

01:25:33.640 --> 01:25:35.539
open. You're going to flap the skin down, attach

01:25:35.539 --> 01:25:38.119
it to my nose. And then I'm going to sit there

01:25:38.119 --> 01:25:41.060
for a couple of weeks or whatever else. And then

01:25:41.060 --> 01:25:42.600
he explained to me, he was like, look, you know,

01:25:42.619 --> 01:25:45.800
your face is. you know, the sun hits your face

01:25:45.800 --> 01:25:48.100
more than any part of your body. So your skin

01:25:48.100 --> 01:25:50.640
tone on your face is so different than the inside

01:25:50.640 --> 01:25:52.439
of your arm or on your butt or your leg or whatever

01:25:52.439 --> 01:25:55.300
it might be. So skin graphing had clearly changed.

01:25:55.380 --> 01:25:59.800
And this was a different procedure. So I told

01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:03.899
our bass player about the procedure, Eric, just

01:26:03.899 --> 01:26:07.220
before I had it done. And he went online on YouTube.

01:26:07.789 --> 01:26:09.630
And he came back the next run. He goes, have

01:26:09.630 --> 01:26:11.369
you seen what they're going to do? I'm like,

01:26:11.470 --> 01:26:14.789
no. What would I want to do that? Exactly. Don't

01:26:14.789 --> 01:26:18.550
show me. I'm just going to get it done. And he

01:26:18.550 --> 01:26:20.789
goes like, dude, you're not going to be back

01:26:20.789 --> 01:26:23.170
by the end of the Poison tour. You're not. And

01:26:23.170 --> 01:26:25.829
I said, I will be. You watch, dude. And he goes,

01:26:25.930 --> 01:26:27.529
you need to watch that video because you're going

01:26:27.529 --> 01:26:29.470
to be out for at least six months. I said, I

01:26:29.470 --> 01:26:33.069
will see. And thank God I had a good plastic

01:26:33.069 --> 01:26:38.560
surgeon. Thank God I got this myth. um essential

01:26:38.560 --> 01:26:41.680
oils i looked up what's really good for scarring

01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:44.359
and all this oh i can't remember all the vitamin

01:26:44.359 --> 01:26:46.239
e there's there's something called mother's oil

01:26:46.239 --> 01:26:49.420
that my my ex used for stretch marks for uh when

01:26:49.420 --> 01:26:53.260
she had twins right really good yeah anyway that's

01:26:53.260 --> 01:26:55.439
what i'm saying so i found it was like eight

01:26:55.439 --> 01:26:57.760
ten different essentials all in this one little

01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:00.680
roller bottle and i would do my forehead and

01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:02.380
do my nose and then next thing you know i end

01:27:02.380 --> 01:27:05.579
up getting one here and then uh when this got

01:27:05.579 --> 01:27:07.619
cut down the side of my nose she hit a nerve

01:27:07.619 --> 01:27:11.699
in my in my hearing on my on my right ear i mean

01:27:11.699 --> 01:27:14.039
the feeling in my right ear went away like for

01:27:14.039 --> 01:27:17.520
at least a year like i'm still at about 70 feeling

01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:20.079
in my right ear lobe because she hit her nerve

01:27:20.079 --> 01:27:23.539
right on the right side oh jesus wow yeah but

01:27:23.539 --> 01:27:26.420
here here's the good news it was all basal cell

01:27:27.370 --> 01:27:29.510
And what I learned is basal cell, you have a

01:27:29.510 --> 01:27:32.289
1 % chance of dying if you just never do anything

01:27:32.289 --> 01:27:34.270
about it. It's just going to grow and your cut

01:27:34.270 --> 01:27:37.689
area is going to be bigger. The squamous cell

01:27:37.689 --> 01:27:41.909
is a 5 % chance of dying, right? And then you

01:27:41.909 --> 01:27:45.909
have melanoma. And luckily, there was never any

01:27:45.909 --> 01:27:47.989
melanoma. That's the bad shit. That's the bad

01:27:47.989 --> 01:27:50.350
shit, dude. So I've had like six or seven cut

01:27:50.350 --> 01:27:55.319
out of me over the last several years. It is

01:27:55.319 --> 01:27:57.640
what it is. The fact that they did all that and

01:27:57.640 --> 01:28:00.100
there's like no scarring. It looks great. Like

01:28:00.100 --> 01:28:02.199
what a great guy you had. And then I guess your

01:28:02.199 --> 01:28:04.420
aftercare regimen, because if you didn't pick

01:28:04.420 --> 01:28:06.300
out the eyebrow or anything, I would have no

01:28:06.300 --> 01:28:09.899
fucking clue that any of that went down. John,

01:28:10.300 --> 01:28:12.060
I'll send you pictures of it. When you see the

01:28:12.060 --> 01:28:14.399
pictures of right after I had a surgery, when

01:28:14.399 --> 01:28:17.020
that thing, you're going to go, Oh my God. Right.

01:28:17.479 --> 01:28:20.020
What was your pain with that? Cause I mean your

01:28:20.020 --> 01:28:22.550
face and like, you're seeing it. So like, that

01:28:22.550 --> 01:28:24.149
probably makes you feel more like, were you in

01:28:24.149 --> 01:28:28.090
massive pain after they did that? Not really.

01:28:28.210 --> 01:28:30.869
I'll be like, I know when I got home, like my

01:28:30.869 --> 01:28:33.369
entire face was covered in gauze and it was all

01:28:33.369 --> 01:28:35.649
blood and, you know, they had to replace it.

01:28:35.710 --> 01:28:38.850
And, uh, but I really don't, I mean, outside

01:28:38.850 --> 01:28:41.130
of my forehead kind of messing with me because

01:28:41.130 --> 01:28:44.750
I couldn't feel my forehead, um, and the top

01:28:44.750 --> 01:28:47.520
of my head. know for a long period of time but

01:28:47.520 --> 01:28:51.680
no i don't um i'm grateful that the the ex the

01:28:51.680 --> 01:28:54.180
experience of surgery wasn't really that bad

01:28:54.180 --> 01:28:56.979
you know um but we go back to like the breast

01:28:56.979 --> 01:28:59.460
cancer can stick in april and you see people

01:28:59.460 --> 01:29:02.600
what they went through i have no right to complain

01:29:02.600 --> 01:29:05.380
about anything and you know what april went through

01:29:05.380 --> 01:29:08.199
with all the the breast cancer and then you know

01:29:08.199 --> 01:29:10.020
i may you know if you don't mind me mentioning

01:29:10.020 --> 01:29:11.960
it but like april's got that book coming out

01:29:11.960 --> 01:29:15.010
if you've seen that um you know so she's written

01:29:15.010 --> 01:29:18.270
a book and she's so nice yeah she's a real inspiration

01:29:18.270 --> 01:29:21.130
to the women in the fort worth dallas area they

01:29:21.130 --> 01:29:24.090
give back they do like pre -screening they pay

01:29:24.090 --> 01:29:26.989
for or the education on breast cancer and that

01:29:26.989 --> 01:29:30.229
sort of thing so um my kudos to them for doing

01:29:30.229 --> 01:29:33.529
that you know and and doing it every year and

01:29:33.529 --> 01:29:35.390
the fact that they get such high -level players

01:29:35.390 --> 01:29:39.350
like chad and phil and and you know to donate

01:29:39.350 --> 01:29:43.250
their time you know Um, it's a beautiful thing.

01:29:43.369 --> 01:29:45.689
So what was the name of her book? If you know,

01:29:45.750 --> 01:29:49.569
Mike, do you, do you remember? Um, I can look

01:29:49.569 --> 01:29:51.850
it up, but I, you know, it's breast, breast cancer

01:29:51.850 --> 01:29:55.149
can stick it. Um, breast cancer can stick it.

01:29:55.170 --> 01:29:58.770
That's the name of the charity. Yeah. And if

01:29:58.770 --> 01:30:00.489
you, if you look that up, you're going to see

01:30:00.489 --> 01:30:03.609
the information for the book that she just wrote,

01:30:03.670 --> 01:30:06.909
um, which, um, I will be getting a copy of. So,

01:30:06.909 --> 01:30:10.109
um, April's good people. And I know Chad, Chad

01:30:10.109 --> 01:30:13.500
saw that. and uh absolutely you know and you

01:30:13.500 --> 01:30:15.979
know in fact scott hessel with the gym blossoms

01:30:15.979 --> 01:30:19.119
him and i were messaged right around this year's

01:30:19.119 --> 01:30:21.619
going and and scott's going man we need to get

01:30:21.619 --> 01:30:25.220
uh chad and and the gang back this you know next

01:30:25.220 --> 01:30:27.140
year he goes you know because he scott had a

01:30:27.140 --> 01:30:29.000
good time and we were a good group of guys you

01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:33.920
know that was great yes yeah yeah exactly exactly

01:30:33.920 --> 01:30:37.899
and phil for that matter feels great too It was

01:30:37.899 --> 01:30:40.159
a good dude. I'm hoping to catch Saigon kick

01:30:40.159 --> 01:30:43.420
whenever they come through Virginia. There you

01:30:43.420 --> 01:30:45.359
go. All right. That's our website. Thank you,

01:30:45.380 --> 01:30:48.220
Bob. Hey, breast cancer. I follow Phil on, I

01:30:48.220 --> 01:30:52.439
follow Phil on, on Facebook. Yeah. And Instagram.

01:30:52.979 --> 01:30:57.359
And I guess he, he's announced he's the drummer

01:30:57.359 --> 01:31:00.539
for Saigon kick going out on this tour. I don't

01:31:00.539 --> 01:31:03.140
know if like there was some beef with, I don't

01:31:03.140 --> 01:31:04.739
know if it was the old drummer or some, some

01:31:04.739 --> 01:31:07.920
guy named Matt. He was. I don't know. I guess

01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:10.659
they had words or something. I don't know. He

01:31:10.659 --> 01:31:13.819
put up some post about Matt going off on him.

01:31:14.180 --> 01:31:18.439
The old drummer. Well, Phil's the original drummer.

01:31:18.859 --> 01:31:21.020
I don't know who Matt is. I'm not sure. Maybe

01:31:21.020 --> 01:31:22.640
it's another band member or something. I'm not

01:31:22.640 --> 01:31:25.500
sure. I thought Phil was the original drummer,

01:31:25.579 --> 01:31:30.699
so I got kicked. Anyway. I hope they go out and

01:31:30.699 --> 01:31:33.220
have a great, merry time. Everyone gets along.

01:31:34.640 --> 01:31:38.029
Yes, exactly. Maybe they went to band therapy.

01:31:40.029 --> 01:31:41.770
Rodney King said it the best. Can't we all just

01:31:41.770 --> 01:31:44.010
get along? I mean, come on, people. Can't we?

01:31:44.369 --> 01:31:46.670
I'm watching this show on Netflix called Loudermilk,

01:31:46.670 --> 01:31:48.630
which is really fucking good. Yo, that shit's

01:31:48.630 --> 01:31:52.210
great. Did you get up to the band scene where

01:31:52.210 --> 01:31:55.210
the one guy, so he has the group and the one

01:31:55.210 --> 01:31:58.590
guy has these little short arms? Yeah, yeah,

01:31:58.670 --> 01:32:01.210
yeah. T -Rex arms. He was a drummer in some metal

01:32:01.210 --> 01:32:04.760
band back in the 80s, right? And some beverage

01:32:04.760 --> 01:32:07.119
company calls them to like reunite and they're

01:32:07.119 --> 01:32:08.579
going to pay him like each, each band members

01:32:08.579 --> 01:32:10.300
is three banners, like a hundred grand each to

01:32:10.300 --> 01:32:12.220
do this. And he doesn't want to do it because

01:32:12.220 --> 01:32:13.920
he's alcoholic anonymous and they're selling

01:32:13.920 --> 01:32:18.619
alcohol. So, but he goes to the, like he, it's

01:32:18.619 --> 01:32:20.579
this British actor. He's been in other stuff,

01:32:20.619 --> 01:32:22.500
but his arms are like really short, but he can

01:32:22.500 --> 01:32:24.039
play drums. Actually, you fucking play drums

01:32:24.039 --> 01:32:26.939
and the thing. So anyway, it was just funny to

01:32:26.939 --> 01:32:29.859
watch him have an argument because he didn't

01:32:29.859 --> 01:32:32.020
want to get, he didn't, he didn't want to do

01:32:32.020 --> 01:32:34.779
the. commercial because they were drinking they

01:32:34.779 --> 01:32:37.479
were selling alcohol and he's you know he's in

01:32:37.479 --> 01:32:40.380
aa and uh so the whole band was like trying to

01:32:40.380 --> 01:32:42.199
get him to fucking like you got to do this man

01:32:42.199 --> 01:32:44.579
we're just gonna get a hundred thousand dollars

01:32:44.579 --> 01:32:46.279
and the fucking lead singer pulled out like this

01:32:46.279 --> 01:32:49.380
fucking old like uh single shot gun on him was

01:32:49.380 --> 01:32:53.699
like do it so you gotta do this the just funny

01:32:53.699 --> 01:32:56.220
to watch the band not not get along over some

01:32:56.220 --> 01:33:00.039
business thing you know right oh sure And one

01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:02.119
of the guys asked him, like, so did your arms

01:33:02.119 --> 01:33:04.140
get blown off and then reattached? He's like,

01:33:04.220 --> 01:33:06.359
yeah, my arms got blown off and then they reattached

01:33:06.359 --> 01:33:10.560
my arms. He's like, no, I was born like that,

01:33:10.619 --> 01:33:13.840
you moron. It's a good show. It's from Office

01:33:13.840 --> 01:33:19.159
Space, right? Yeah, yeah. Louder Milk. That's

01:33:19.159 --> 01:33:20.520
the only thing that throws me off is everybody

01:33:20.520 --> 01:33:22.939
calls him Louder Milk. I'm like, if that was

01:33:22.939 --> 01:33:25.600
my last name, I'd have nobody call me that. Right,

01:33:25.779 --> 01:33:27.819
and he's also an ex -music critic from Rolling

01:33:27.819 --> 01:33:31.390
Stone. Yeah. In the show. I was hoping they would

01:33:31.390 --> 01:33:32.890
bring up something on live because they were

01:33:32.890 --> 01:33:34.949
talking about some 90s bands in there. So, I

01:33:34.949 --> 01:33:36.550
mean, who knows? Maybe they do at some point.

01:33:36.609 --> 01:33:38.750
Maybe at some point. We'll see. The two chads.

01:33:38.909 --> 01:33:41.369
But, Mike, we got to have you on again because

01:33:41.369 --> 01:33:43.109
I had so much stuff I wanted to ask, but we're

01:33:43.109 --> 01:33:44.689
just running a little over with now, which is

01:33:44.689 --> 01:33:47.229
good because it leaves the audience wanting more.

01:33:47.670 --> 01:33:50.430
But you're a fascinating dude, and I want to

01:33:50.430 --> 01:33:52.350
thank you for coming on. I want to thank you

01:33:52.350 --> 01:33:55.880
for your charity work. And people go check out

01:33:55.880 --> 01:33:59.880
his, uh, his drum furniture are, and, uh, you

01:33:59.880 --> 01:34:01.220
know, give it a whirl. Tell the audience one

01:34:01.220 --> 01:34:04.640
more time, the Instagram and Etsy. Dorm, uh,

01:34:04.699 --> 01:34:07.220
everything online. It's at custom drum decor

01:34:07.220 --> 01:34:09.840
all the way across. No dashes or anything like

01:34:09.840 --> 01:34:13.100
that. Just at custom drum decor. Um, I have one

01:34:13.100 --> 01:34:14.840
question for Chad. Chad, what's your favorite

01:34:14.840 --> 01:34:17.260
record that you played with live? Like that you

01:34:17.260 --> 01:34:20.619
released? Uh, secret shamanic probably is my

01:34:20.619 --> 01:34:23.520
favorite. Yep. It's my favorite of the bands,

01:34:23.600 --> 01:34:26.659
yes. Where's the Distance to Here on your, is

01:34:26.659 --> 01:34:29.500
it in your top three? I mean, yeah, it's in my

01:34:29.500 --> 01:34:33.119
top three. I mean, it'd be Seeker Samadhi, Distance

01:34:33.119 --> 01:34:37.560
to Here. Nice. Oh, no, Seeker Samadhi, Throwing

01:34:37.560 --> 01:34:39.319
Copper, Distance to Here, and then Mental Jewelry.

01:34:39.859 --> 01:34:44.159
Yeah. It's so hard to rank, like your first four

01:34:44.159 --> 01:34:47.140
albums, it's like they're just fucking on other

01:34:47.140 --> 01:34:49.979
levels, like to rank them is kind of almost sacrilege,

01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:51.909
you know? because they're just all so good in

01:34:51.909 --> 01:34:54.729
their own right they really are and john if you

01:34:54.729 --> 01:34:56.789
remember hey john if you remember like it like

01:34:56.789 --> 01:34:59.010
putting on you know whether it be a cassette

01:34:59.010 --> 01:35:02.310
or cd back in the day and like and and that emotion

01:35:02.310 --> 01:35:07.409
uh that you felt right um and i remember like

01:35:07.409 --> 01:35:10.229
listening to throwing copper over and over and

01:35:10.229 --> 01:35:13.170
i've chat i've told chad the story that i locked

01:35:13.170 --> 01:35:17.029
myself in a in a storage unit right like garage

01:35:17.029 --> 01:35:20.180
door get in or shut that thing and i listened

01:35:20.180 --> 01:35:22.859
to that throwing copper record over and over

01:35:22.859 --> 01:35:26.920
and like iris is like that's my right is that

01:35:26.920 --> 01:35:30.800
and that's the so what i was leading into it's

01:35:30.800 --> 01:35:33.100
like listening to throwing copper over and over

01:35:33.100 --> 01:35:35.880
for a period of time and all of a sudden the

01:35:35.880 --> 01:35:38.739
first thing i hear when that next release came

01:35:38.739 --> 01:35:42.439
out how that crunchy sound that they had you

01:35:42.439 --> 01:35:49.890
know in secret samadhi with um it was just like

01:35:49.890 --> 01:35:52.430
i guess you get used to an artist's sound but

01:35:52.430 --> 01:35:55.050
i loved that that change what that dirtiness

01:35:55.050 --> 01:35:57.229
that kind of rawness of that sound from that

01:35:57.229 --> 01:36:00.369
guitar on that uh you know at least on that track

01:36:00.369 --> 01:36:02.750
but uh yeah i was always curious as a drummer

01:36:02.750 --> 01:36:05.369
when you record multiple albums it may not be

01:36:05.369 --> 01:36:09.029
the fans like throwing copper or you know whatever

01:36:09.029 --> 01:36:11.930
eight times platinum but the drummer goes you

01:36:11.930 --> 01:36:14.050
know what, this is my favorite. And like, I like

01:36:14.050 --> 01:36:15.449
hearing that cause I might go back and like,

01:36:15.470 --> 01:36:18.069
and go refresh it and listen to that, uh, secret

01:36:18.069 --> 01:36:21.090
Samadhi again over, you know, cause there's gotta

01:36:21.090 --> 01:36:23.789
be a reason it's your favorite. Right. So, yeah,

01:36:23.850 --> 01:36:27.489
I mean, it's just, I don't know. We, I guess

01:36:27.489 --> 01:36:31.149
just because it is darker. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

01:36:31.409 --> 01:36:33.569
Darker and a little more heavy, I guess, and

01:36:33.569 --> 01:36:37.229
even throwing copper. So the day Samadhi came

01:36:37.229 --> 01:36:40.250
out with me and one of my best friends. And so

01:36:40.250 --> 01:36:44.329
we were, Oh, geez, 14 or 15. We had to get her

01:36:44.329 --> 01:36:46.930
older brother, who was a senior, to ditch school

01:36:46.930 --> 01:36:49.909
with us to go to Sam Goody to buy the album and

01:36:49.909 --> 01:36:51.949
then get it up, put it in the CD player. Like

01:36:51.949 --> 01:36:55.149
those times when you're going to get like your

01:36:55.149 --> 01:36:57.289
band's new release, like that shit's all gone.

01:36:57.430 --> 01:36:59.689
These kids will never understand going to pick

01:36:59.689 --> 01:37:02.909
up an album, a cassette, a CD, opening it up,

01:37:02.909 --> 01:37:05.229
look at the liner notes, putting it in and just

01:37:05.229 --> 01:37:09.170
getting that feel of like, whoa, like this music

01:37:09.170 --> 01:37:12.460
like. That's lost. Now it's everything streaming.

01:37:12.640 --> 01:37:15.220
You can't even pay attention to however many

01:37:15.220 --> 01:37:17.100
bands there are because there's fucking thousands.

01:37:17.920 --> 01:37:22.500
It's like so much shit was lost with all this

01:37:22.500 --> 01:37:25.720
new technology and stuff. Even though you have

01:37:25.720 --> 01:37:28.060
access to more stuff, something was still robbed

01:37:28.060 --> 01:37:32.100
from us, which is crazy to think. And the fact

01:37:32.100 --> 01:37:35.680
that the labels will still have a packaging fee

01:37:35.680 --> 01:37:40.560
on digital music. Digital package. Like what?

01:37:40.739 --> 01:37:45.020
Come on. I mean, yeah. So, and the legacy label

01:37:45.020 --> 01:37:48.960
will still pay you 75, 75 % on like CDs. Cause

01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:55.000
it's new technology. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Thank

01:37:55.000 --> 01:37:57.760
you, John. I appreciate the invite, man. And

01:37:57.760 --> 01:38:00.500
I'll come on anytime you guys want to shoot the

01:38:00.500 --> 01:38:05.520
shit. I'm here. There you go. Thank you. Awesome.

01:38:06.159 --> 01:38:07.819
Awesome. Thank you, Chad. We'll see you soon,

01:38:07.840 --> 01:38:11.359
bud. I'll meet you in York, PA. We'll do some

01:38:11.359 --> 01:38:13.199
jamming. I'll let you know when I'm there for

01:38:13.199 --> 01:38:16.239
sure. Awesome. Okay. I'll record it. I'll record

01:38:16.239 --> 01:38:20.939
it. All right, guys. All right. Ladies and gentlemen,

01:38:20.979 --> 01:38:23.939
Mr. Mike Bailey was in the house. Thank you so

01:38:23.939 --> 01:38:25.619
much for coming on, dude. And yeah, I have so

01:38:25.619 --> 01:38:28.479
much more shit to ask that guy, but we got, we

01:38:28.479 --> 01:38:30.560
got into a bunch of cool stuff, so it is where

01:38:30.560 --> 01:38:32.159
it is, but we'll have him on again for sure.

01:38:32.420 --> 01:38:35.289
For sure. Let's do it. Uh, next week we got some

01:38:35.289 --> 01:38:37.850
ladies coming on for you. It's a two, four, two

01:38:37.850 --> 01:38:40.250
for a guest, uh, Tara and Abby, I believe are

01:38:40.250 --> 01:38:43.970
the names. So they'll be on, uh, we have somebody.

01:38:44.010 --> 01:38:46.970
No, next, next week is Scott. Mark Scott. Uh,

01:38:47.670 --> 01:38:50.250
isn't I thought the girls were towards the end

01:38:50.250 --> 01:38:52.109
of the. Yeah. I don't know. January. I don't

01:38:52.109 --> 01:38:53.850
know. Last month or last Tuesday in January.

01:38:53.909 --> 01:38:55.829
So it's Scott Martin ending or whatever his name

01:38:55.829 --> 01:38:57.890
is. Yes. You're right. I don't know what day

01:38:57.890 --> 01:39:00.310
of the week it is or, or, uh, what year we're

01:39:00.310 --> 01:39:04.939
in, but. I hear you. Yeah. So anyways, we'll

01:39:04.939 --> 01:39:07.319
have fun with Scott next week. But we have a

01:39:07.319 --> 01:39:09.560
bunch of cool stuff coming up in the future as

01:39:09.560 --> 01:39:11.380
well. We have the guy from the Rock and Roll

01:39:11.380 --> 01:39:13.520
Hall of Fame, Central Pennsylvania Rock and Roll

01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:15.779
Hall of Fame coming on. We got some people from

01:39:15.779 --> 01:39:17.840
South Africa coming on. Tell us a little bit

01:39:17.840 --> 01:39:21.199
about what's going on over there. We're diversifying

01:39:21.199 --> 01:39:23.359
people. We're looking to get some porn stars

01:39:23.359 --> 01:39:27.880
as well. Yeah. For everybody out there, both

01:39:27.880 --> 01:39:30.039
male and female. Don't worry, ladies. We got

01:39:30.039 --> 01:39:33.720
the male ones coming on for you, too. Anything

01:39:33.720 --> 01:39:36.779
you want to say to the audience, Chad? As always,

01:39:36.899 --> 01:39:40.979
thank you for listening and watching. And we'll

01:39:40.979 --> 01:39:44.880
see you next week, next Tuesday. Peace. Let me

01:39:44.880 --> 01:39:45.659
hit stop there.