The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 027 - Mitch Collins

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Boom, shakalaka, preparing. Got it. Get it good,

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setting it up. And hopefully we are live. Ladies

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and gentlemen, boys and girls. Hey, hey, hey.

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What up, Chad? Bays and bears and Zs and Zims.

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Hello. We got to include them all. That's right.

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Run all the stupid pronouns down. Yes. He, she,

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shim, shim. Fuck off. Oh, Chad, we got something

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cool for the audience that we should probably

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let them know. What do we got? Yeah, well, you

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know, but you don't know that I'm going. So we

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had a fun time doing our drunken bonus episodes.

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If you guys are watching now and you're wondering

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why it's episode 27 and not 26, it's because

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we did a live in -studio bonus drinking episode

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last week. Just posted it. But we did it on Instagram

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only. So now it's posted to all the platforms.

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But we decided since we had such a good time,

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maybe once a week, maybe a couple times a month,

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something like that, we're going to do a short.

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Instagram only live show. And it's, we're not

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bringing topics. I'm not asking questions. Chad's

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not asking questions. It's all audience interaction.

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So you guys come on, you could type in what you

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want to talk about. You could type in questions

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and even we could, if you want to come on, we

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could have you on video with us. So you'll actually

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be in the broadcast. So it's a bunch of cool

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stuff for the audience out there. and uh we had

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fun with it so we want to have some more fun

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with you guys hell yeah have some more drinks

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yes sir yeah we decided uh we're not gonna put

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like specific times on it you guys will get the

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notifications when we do go live on instagram

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so make sure you follow us there the underscore

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gracious underscore two and come on interact

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with us man we want to have fun with you guys

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so that should be oh yeah Uh, and then that happened.

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And then last week I put up a rattlesnake on

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my YouTube channel and it, I mean, for me at

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least it blew up. It wasn't like, I had like

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35 ,000 views. So I was like, Oh shit, that was

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cool. Yes. Um, you know, my typical videos, I

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mean, some of them have like, I think the most

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is like 4 ,900. So rattlesnake kind of blew up

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for me. I was very happy about that. I know,

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I know it's nothing in the YouTube world where

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you get billions of views, but Hey, I'll take

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it. I'm good. Yeah. We got to start somewhere,

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right? Exactly. Yeah, dude. So I wonder what

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the difference was. If people somehow stumbled

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onto the page, if they... The main driver of

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the traffic was YouTube advertising. Cool. And

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analytics. Wow. Somehow you got into the algo.

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I guess, yeah. I got in the algo. But it's funny

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because, you know, the gracious two channel has

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two strikes, but... They like me personally on

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the drum, so. Well, so we got a strike removed.

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We're down to only one. Oh, good. Sweet. Yes.

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And then I think by next month, that'll be gone,

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too. Bill will say maybe we try, you know, not

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putting it up live, but bleeping. Right. The

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B words and the human population control words.

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That's definitely. That's definitely the plan.

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Don't talk vaccine, jab, any of that stuff. But

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yo, Chad, this is crazy. So because we had discussed

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this a while back after we got our second strike,

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we said, all right, we're not going to go live

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on YouTube anymore because we don't want to just

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completely abandon the channel. But we're going

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to post our shorts so we can kind of keep control

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of what goes on there. It's not during the live

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show. And like, do you know that if so? If we

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post something that has nothing worth of controversy

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in it, boom, boom, boom, hits, hits, hits, YouTube

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actually puts it in people's shorts feed. As

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soon as we post something, you know, about the

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media being biased on both the left and right

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side, they no longer show it. They don't promote

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it at all. And then they don't promote the videos

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before and after it either. So you got to go

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like three videos in and put a fucking vanilla.

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They're all in fucking cahoots, dude. It's your

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freedom of speech being suppressed before your

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eyes and everyone just goes along like, yeah,

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it's cool, man. I'm on YouTube. It's insane.

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You can't speak the truth on YouTube. And if

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you guys think we're bullshitting, just go to

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the Gracious 2 page and look at our shorts and

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you could see the ones that have massive hits

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and then the ones that have no hits because of

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what the subject matter is. And, you know, it's

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not... Some of its questions we're asking, some

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of its actual factual information we're giving,

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and they still stymie it and do that. Yeah, I

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guess one of the big headlines last week, probably,

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you know, get taken down for this, is that the

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CDC says now treat COVID like the flu. And I

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knew this in 2020. Right. Hey, who am I? I'm

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a conspiracy theorist. It's like a ridiculous.

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But all these people died. Oh, really? Was there

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a large amount of people that, did more people

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die in 2020 than died in 2019? It is a marginal,

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if infinitesimal, fucking increase. And not only

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that. And 21 is for that matter. And not only

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that, I mean, even with the uptick in COVID,

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like, I mean, they're now saying it's like the

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flu, which it has always been like that. So if

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you were obese or had all these comorbidities,

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Comorbidities, I believe. Comorbidities, correct,

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yes. Yeah, if you had that, then you would probably

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die if you got the flu just as well as if you

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got COVID. So it was just a huge scare tactic.

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Well, for a long time, if you were in the hospital

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and you died and you had COVID, that was a COVID

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death. Right. Because the hospital got paid more

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money. Look it up. CDC has admitted it. Fuck

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you if you think it's conspiracy theory. It's

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real. Shit happened. And not only that, Chad,

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do you remember in the beginning when they were

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intubating everybody and that's where all the

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deaths really basically... Oh, yeah. All those

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people died. They blew up their lungs. Yeah.

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And if you remember, Cuomo, the governor of New

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York at the time, was, President Trump needs

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to get us more whatever the... Ventilators. Yes.

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Yes. And then realized that that's what was killing

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everybody and fucking got quiet real quick. Oh,

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he probably wanted more ventilators so they can

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blame it all on Trump. Oh, yeah. See? You gave

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us ventilators we asked for, and now we killed

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everybody, but it's your fault. I mean, Trump

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couldn't win in any of those situations. Cuomo

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was like, we need more hospital beds. He fucking

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sent them Navy ships and all this other shit

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to have made hospitals and stuff. Didn't really

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use it. They sat there empty. Yeah, they put

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one off Long Beach, and they put one off of New

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York. The hospital ships, there's two of them

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in the Navy. They weren't even used. It's simply

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amazing. Yet if he didn't send them, could you

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imagine the backlash? Oh, God, ridiculous. He's

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killing people. Yeah. And now what? Hunter Biden

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has come out and admitted that he was drunken

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high on the call with that one Chinese official

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where he had his dad sitting beside him. And

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he's saying, my dad's sitting beside me. Now

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he's drunken high. Right. Don't you love the

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scapegoatism that they use? It's just like. Oh,

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I'm not responsible for anything that I did.

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I was drunk and high. Like, does that happen?

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Does that happen in a DUI, motherfucker? No.

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Exactly. I was just going to say that. Like,

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how is that an excuse for anything? Oh, I didn't

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realize I was raping her. I was drunk and high.

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Oh, okay. No problem. Go ahead. Get out of jail.

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I mean, like, what the fuck? And now we found

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out about ghost flights just recently. 320 ,000

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illegals have been flown. Oh, well, Mallorca

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says we're not supposed to call them illegal.

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Oh, really? Immigrants anymore. So yeah, we got

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a PC about it. I guess what, I don't know what

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they're called. Country challenge. I don't know

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what the fuck they're called now. Who fucking

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knows? I saw another one too. It's like some

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coalition of businesses. Chipotle is like a big

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part of it. Uh, and they were basically saying

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like, they want to have these illegal immigrants

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able to work for them. Uh, they're, they're saying

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because their jobs, Africans don't want, but

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they're in their like ways of speaking about

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it. They tell their, you know, people, Don't

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say illegal immigration. Say something about

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like job challenged or something like that, like

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completely negating what they're trying to do

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and like hide it basically. So this administration

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has flown in 320 ,000 people for free on the

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taxpayer dime illegally. And they did that so

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that you didn't see that amount of people coming

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across the border. Yep. Wow. Yup. And did it

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shady dude? They have a fucking app. It's called

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like the CBP app or something. And they go on

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there. Uh, Bobby has an article for us. I want

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to, uh, just show it to the audience for, for,

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again, for people who think that, well, you'll

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put up an article and depending what the source

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is, then all the lefties will be like, well,

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that source is bullshit. It's like, Oh yeah,

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I've seen that tactic many times. It's like,

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Oh, this source is bullshit, but it's true. Right.

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Well, this is their source, man. This is the

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Washington Examiner fucking lefty like you wouldn't

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believe. Scroll down, Bobby. Get to the actual

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article so I could, I wanted to read a portion

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of it. And for all those Babista fans out there,

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look at those shirts. There you go. So here we

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go. Up a little bit, Bob. Um, and this, this

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article I believe is from, uh, a couple, a little

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bit ago. So that's why it's saying like 210 as

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opposed to the updated article, which is 320.

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Uh, but basically it was saying, uh, yeah, right

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below this picture, the Biden administration

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has unleashed a new program to boost illegal

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immigration that allows immigrants to fly directly

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from their hometowns into a U S city of their

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choice. Like what? So instead of rushing the

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Texas border, this program lets immigrants use

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the administration's app to pick a destination,

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buy an airline ticket, and fly in unseen on what

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amounts to ghost flights. And there's the key

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to go around the Texas border because Abbott

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shut it down. Yup. Where is the fucking logic?

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How does anyone support this shit? It's just

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unbelievable to me. Makes no sense. Makes no

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sense that people are like, oh yeah, that's cool.

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Right. Wow. And then if I leave the country and

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come back, I got my passport and my ID and I

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got to tell them where it was and what it did.

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And these motherfuckers literally get on a plane

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and fly to whatever city they pick. No ID, no

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nothing. You don't know who the fuck they are.

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I mean, it's just nuts. Well, Chad, here's something

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I read about this. So we have a certain amount

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of visas that we give out per year, work visas.

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Already, we've used all of those up in the first

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two months. There's no more work visas allowed.

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I don't know if it's for this quarter or for

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the year. I believe for the year, we've already

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hit our quota and maxed out. So now you're allowing

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all these illegals to come in with no shot at

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getting a work visa. So they're going to be all

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working off the books, not paying taxes or stealing

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and robbing to support themselves. Like if you

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really want to solve the problem, make more fucking

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work visas then and have these people come in

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properly. These people are coming here to work

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and escape their country. Make that an easier

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process so we could fucking. know who's coming

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in and say you're you're okay you're not but

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this is why like well we've always done well

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the key thing is solve the problem they don't

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want to solve the problem they've created the

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problem they want to keep the problem going right

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because now what they're doing in all these local

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elections like in new york city in different

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cities they're allowing illegals to vote yeah

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oh but then they're saying well on a national

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level it's not legal yeah wait until it is until

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you make it fucking legal right they have 11

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million new voters For the blue. Yeah. If they

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were voting for Trump, if all these people coming

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in were like, we're voting for Trump, they would

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shut the border down so fucking fast. Oh, yeah.

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It would be crazy. You would not even be able

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to understand what happened. They would have

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built the Great Wall of China down there had

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fucking that been the case. You know what I'm

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saying? Oh, my God. Absolutely. 100%. Yeah. And

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then the next thing is the old Supreme Court

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ruling 9 -0 against the states taking a ballot.

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viable candidates off the ballots because they

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don't like him. He's an insurrectionist. He has

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not been charged with insurrection. Nobody has

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been charged with insurrection. We know Jan 6

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is a fucking crock of bullshit, but Glenn Beck

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talked about it like two years ago. He said they're

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making Jan 6 a huge thing so that they can use

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it against Trump and take him off ballots. He

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called it two years ago. This is exactly what

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they're doing. Yeah, I tried to, but now it's

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been Supreme Court, even the liberals on the

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Supreme Court. Thank God. I'm like, I have faith.

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And even the liberals on the Supreme Court, they

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have they have levity. And now they're like,

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yes, yeah, this is fucked up. Yes. You can't

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you can't let the state the states decide federal

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elections. They can't by just arbitrarily remove

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who they don't like off the ballots. Right. It's

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might as well get rid of electoral colleges at

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that point and let New York. Well, they want

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to do that. Oh, yeah. Now they're calling to

00:14:22.940 --> 00:14:27.940
get rid of the Supreme Court. MSNBC. We have

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to abolish the Supreme Court. We talked about

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it earlier. It's like the Democrats, they're

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like, we are protecting democracy over here.

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They're subverting it completely in ways that

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have never happened before in this country. It's

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just nuts. It almost makes you feel like you're

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crazy when they say these things do the complete

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opposite that's the whole point and then this

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is exactly how narcissists gaslight you gaslight

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you they make you think like oh i'm i thought

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the sky was blue no no no it's green you're fucking

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insane like what are you talking about that's

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what they do it's classic gaslighting like they

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make you think that you're nuts but you're actually

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sitting in reality going um no yeah no you're

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lying like a fucking piece of shit right And

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then for people like us, it's like, okay, we

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know we're not nuts. We know we're following

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the narrative properly and doing our research.

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But it then makes me think that more than half

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this country is fucking crazy off their rocker,

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not paying attention, burying their head in the

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sand. I want to give the benefit of the doubt

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and say they're just not evil and want us to

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go down. I want to think that. I think most of

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them don't pay attention. Yes. And then that's

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what I that's what I think. And most and a lot

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of them still think the Democrat Party is like

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this shining beacon on the hill. But I don't

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know if it ever was. But at one point it seemed

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to be that. Yeah. But it's not. It's it's completely

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different party. And it's. It's not Kennedy.

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It was the last of that Democratic, you know,

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the golden Democratic era. Yeah. I mean, God

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damn. Give me Bill Clinton back. I'd love to

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have him back. Same. absolutely i mean there's

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a there's video footage of him saying make america

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great again right there's video there's he's

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in front of congress saying shut down the border

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too many illegals coming across i was like i'll

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take that guy again we're republican great and

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when he was saying that it was like a hundred

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people a day coming across and that was too many

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you know what i'm saying oh it's fucking 10 000

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11 000 at times and you know And like we were

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saying earlier, it's almost as if it's beyond

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incompetence at this point. It's like by design.

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Right. Like you don't launch ghost flights to

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bring in 320 ,000 people, you know, not only

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illegally, but like in this malicious way where

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they're hiding it. Right. Because they don't

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want to have those numbers come across the border.

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Right. That's not competence. That is fucking

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pure on like evil and. And deceptive, exactly.

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It goes beyond just being an idiot at this point.

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And that's what I'm hoping people start to see.

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It's like, I would love to have a fucking Democratic

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candidate like fucking Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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I would by all means. Absolutely. You know what

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I'm saying? You're not even giving us a good

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candidate to choose because you're so fucked

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and you want to control shit and put out your

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narrative. They know Robert Kennedy is not going

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to play ball with them. He's going to fucking

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actually make America first. And they don't want

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that. They want. Oh, yeah. They won't even primary

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him. Biden won't debate him. They're not even

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having like that. They wouldn't even they wouldn't

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even try to get Robert Kennedy a primary. We

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can give him secret service. Like, it's insane.

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And now he's running independent. Can you imagine?

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They won't give him secret service, dude. Like,

00:18:06.650 --> 00:18:10.529
what? His father, uncle were killed, assassinated.

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Right. And they're not going to. It's like, what

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the fuck, man? Well, we do have. Yes, that's

00:18:17.630 --> 00:18:21.230
exactly what it is. We do have our next guest

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coming out or our first guest of the show, Mr.

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Mitch Collins. If you guys are wondering why

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it's not Lena. Some stuff came up, so we had

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to reschedule her for the end of April. I'm not

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exactly sure, but we got not only the next best

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thing, the best thing next. Collins, he is a

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big live fan for a very long time, but he also

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is a musician and he's got a new band coming

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on. And he also does a bunch of cool live covers.

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Chad, I don't know if you ever got to call him,

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but. uh catch him but i'm gonna play one in a

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little bit he does uh i will bobby he does um

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like his it's a he still stays true to the song

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but he does his own interpretation of it which

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is cool um yes i've seen something else absolutely

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uh give me one second i'm gonna start your video

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ask you to start your video and then ask you

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to unmute buddy uh yeah so If you could hear

00:19:23.019 --> 00:19:25.299
me. Yeah, there you go. Perfect. And if you could

00:19:25.299 --> 00:19:28.319
take yourself off. Yes. Mitch, what's up? What's

00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:32.099
up, guys? Can you hear me? Yes, sir. Awesome.

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So glad to be here. Can't even fathom that I'm

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sitting here. I'm so nervous. Don't be nervous.

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We're just a bunch of idiots. It's all good.

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That's it. Thank you for coming on. Yeah, we're

00:19:44.259 --> 00:19:46.960
excited to have you, Mitch. I was just kind of

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briefly mentioned to the audience kind of how

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we know each other and telling chats about some

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of your cool covers. I was giving you a compliment

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saying that you stay true to the theme of the

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song, but you put your own twist on it and make

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it your own, which is what I find the best way

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and the most inspiring way to hear covers. My

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question was, is that a conscious decision or

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is it just how it comes out of you? How does

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that come about? It's a little bit of both. putting

00:20:20.529 --> 00:20:24.490
your own spin on it but not losing the essence

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of what you feel the song is trying to convey

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and i mean you said it perfectly and thank you

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very much for the kind words but uh you hit the

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nail on the head it's it's all about making it

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your own but but staying true the essence of

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the song and lives essence is undeniable agreed

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uh and they're big shoes to fill man because

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i feel i hear besides you and Chris Zelenka,

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there's a bunch of live covers out there. I'm

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like, they're missing the mark somewhere along

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the line. Um, especially when it comes to singing,

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uh, you know, edge vocals and stuff like that,

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but you've really, you've really come into your

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own and, uh, you know, you make it sound good,

00:21:05.509 --> 00:21:07.910
which is, I'm going to play a song in a minute.

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Like I do, which I think is, you know, uh, instrumentally

00:21:11.750 --> 00:21:14.769
a very hard song to play. I think vocally a hard

00:21:14.769 --> 00:21:18.460
song to sing and, uh, you nailed it. Um, so I'm

00:21:18.460 --> 00:21:20.359
going to pull that up in a little bit, but I

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did want to ask you this, Mitch and Chad, this

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is, this is for you too, dude. Uh, did you hear

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this is this, I, I'm, I might make it controversial,

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but I think it might be already. I'm not sure.

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Did you hear Ed Kowalczyk has a new album out,

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uh, called, uh, it was Blackstone. Yes. Yes.

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So hold on. No, here, here's what, so I was watching

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a clip from the latest concert. And he said,

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this is a song from the new live album. I mean,

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Blackstone album. Well, they're the same thing

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anyway. So, yeah. My question is, is he trying

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to release it under a new name and promote it

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at live shows so he doesn't have to cut in the

00:22:00.769 --> 00:22:04.450
original members? Who knows? Probably they're

00:22:04.450 --> 00:22:06.849
trying to do something like that. It's weird.

00:22:06.910 --> 00:22:08.690
It'd be interesting. Have you heard it, Mitch?

00:22:09.589 --> 00:22:13.759
I have not. I have not heard about this. It's

00:22:13.759 --> 00:22:18.680
like blues. It's his alter ego. What's the country

00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:22.299
artist, Garth Brooks, what was his alter ego

00:22:22.299 --> 00:22:25.740
name? Chris Gaines. It's Ed's version of Chris

00:22:25.740 --> 00:22:28.819
Gaines. Yeah, I've seen the Goose Blackstone

00:22:28.819 --> 00:22:31.940
thing floating around. That's going a while back

00:22:31.940 --> 00:22:34.779
even. I never was quite sure what it meant. And

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I have heard the song, but I don't know much

00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:40.059
beyond that. gotcha yeah from what i'm hearing

00:22:40.059 --> 00:22:44.039
it's it's was a 3500 press vinyl and he's selling

00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:46.859
him at the concert so it's not being streamed

00:22:46.859 --> 00:22:49.039
anywhere or anything like that but i just thought

00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:52.039
it was like a freudian slip or whatever when

00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:55.119
he was introducing the the song to say it was

00:22:55.119 --> 00:22:58.579
a live album oh no it's the whatever album the

00:22:58.579 --> 00:23:01.259
same thing anyway is how he put it that's not

00:23:01.259 --> 00:23:05.059
a freudian slip yeah right And not for nothing,

00:23:05.180 --> 00:23:07.440
Ed, it's not the same thing, dude. Okay. It's

00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:10.279
not a live album. Goosebump Black, whatever the

00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:14.259
fuck it is, is not similar. Steve Singer. Goosebump

00:23:14.259 --> 00:23:19.779
Black. But Mitch, I wanted to give you an opportunity

00:23:19.779 --> 00:23:22.279
to tell Chad about this new music event you got

00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:28.470
going on. You got a full band going, right? We

00:23:28.470 --> 00:23:31.029
do. We're in the very beginning, early stages.

00:23:31.109 --> 00:23:35.250
We've only practiced twice so far. So I don't

00:23:35.250 --> 00:23:38.230
want to say too much. But the main thing I wanted

00:23:38.230 --> 00:23:41.549
to convey is that I am trying to keep the ball

00:23:41.549 --> 00:23:45.849
moving forward. I do have some irons in the fire

00:23:45.849 --> 00:23:49.470
and I'm looking to expand. Ultimately, the dream

00:23:49.470 --> 00:23:54.049
is to be full band. I got my boy, ride or die,

00:23:54.170 --> 00:23:58.539
Kyle Strawn with me. And I'm just, we're just

00:23:58.539 --> 00:24:01.700
constantly writing and working and squeezing

00:24:01.700 --> 00:24:05.220
it in where we can and keeping it moving forward.

00:24:05.680 --> 00:24:08.500
I love it. You got to do it. That's cool. Absolutely.

00:24:09.180 --> 00:24:13.259
Is that the ultimate goal is to just make a living

00:24:13.259 --> 00:24:18.019
off of music? Oh, it's just, it hurts my heart.

00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:22.180
It's such a dream. And can I, and I really don't

00:24:22.180 --> 00:24:23.839
mean to interrupt things, but can I just say

00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:29.369
real quick? Chad, I'm shaking as I'm sitting

00:24:29.369 --> 00:24:31.329
here, and I know this is going to annoy you,

00:24:31.430 --> 00:24:36.809
but you are such a massive influence. I can't

00:24:36.809 --> 00:24:38.369
believe I'm sitting here across the phone from

00:24:38.369 --> 00:24:41.210
you. I've met Ed a couple of times, which was

00:24:41.210 --> 00:24:44.269
fantastic, but to get to sit down and meet one

00:24:44.269 --> 00:24:47.809
of my absolute biggest influences in music is

00:24:47.809 --> 00:24:51.049
just such an unbelievable experience for me right

00:24:51.049 --> 00:24:53.759
now. And this isn't a knock on the other guests,

00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:56.339
but it's like, can we stop pretending that we're

00:24:56.339 --> 00:24:58.099
not sitting here talking to one of the greatest

00:24:58.099 --> 00:25:02.619
drummers ever? No, I appreciate that. Thank you,

00:25:02.619 --> 00:25:05.779
man. I just wanted to get that off my chest real

00:25:05.779 --> 00:25:08.559
quick. John, I apologize. No, Mitch. It's all

00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:11.559
good, man. I appreciate that. Thank you. And

00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:15.059
I mean, it would be for me like meeting Larry

00:25:15.059 --> 00:25:18.579
Mullen. So I get it. I get it. And thank you.

00:25:18.579 --> 00:25:21.339
I miss hearing you, man. I really, I really,

00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:24.960
really do. It's something that can't be replaced,

00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:27.920
and I hope to hear it again in the near future.

00:25:28.940 --> 00:25:31.299
I'll never say never, but who knows? Exactly.

00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:36.079
Say never. But did you check out the Rattlesnake

00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:42.440
video, Mitch? I did. I sure did. Perfect. I got

00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:45.440
to think. I mean, it's cool for just a fan of

00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:48.079
the band to watch, but for drummers and stuff,

00:25:48.140 --> 00:25:51.630
that's got to be next level to see. you know,

00:25:51.650 --> 00:25:54.269
overhead shots and exactly how he's doing it.

00:25:54.289 --> 00:25:58.009
I mean, it's pretty dope. Absolutely. That's

00:25:58.009 --> 00:26:00.109
why I started the channel to give that perspective

00:26:00.109 --> 00:26:02.190
too. Cause you know, when I was growing up and

00:26:02.190 --> 00:26:04.250
covering stuff, I had to figure it out by ear.

00:26:04.670 --> 00:26:06.609
You didn't have a visual like, you know, back

00:26:06.609 --> 00:26:09.450
in the eighties and nothing like that. Not even

00:26:09.450 --> 00:26:12.230
music videos. Well, I guess MTV, it kind of started,

00:26:12.269 --> 00:26:13.910
but you never saw the drama very much anyway.

00:26:13.950 --> 00:26:17.730
So I thought it would be cool to, for people

00:26:17.730 --> 00:26:20.359
to be able to see exactly how. I'm playing the

00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:24.380
songs. I'm sorry, John, go ahead. Please go.

00:26:24.819 --> 00:26:28.819
I was just going to say that something that,

00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:31.559
and John, you said it earlier, when people cover

00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:35.700
live music, they do miss a mark in a sense that

00:26:35.700 --> 00:26:39.180
they might get on there and bang on the drums

00:26:39.180 --> 00:26:44.319
or play the chords. But live is one of those

00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:47.059
bands that. are simple and sophisticated at the

00:26:47.059 --> 00:26:49.700
same time they can make a three four chord song

00:26:49.700 --> 00:26:53.440
like lightning crashes turn into this epic build

00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:56.440
up that most bands can't do and if you can't

00:26:56.440 --> 00:26:59.059
capture that whether it's on a guitar or the

00:26:59.059 --> 00:27:02.220
drums you're really missing the mark of what

00:27:02.220 --> 00:27:05.599
that music does to move people and you have to

00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:08.920
capture that at least try your best don't just

00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:11.359
get up there and say i alone and strum three

00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:14.529
chords no no no no You got to dig deeper than

00:27:14.529 --> 00:27:18.109
that because live was a thinking man's music.

00:27:18.190 --> 00:27:20.230
It wasn't that it was the perfect combination

00:27:20.230 --> 00:27:22.869
of it's simple enough for the masses to grab

00:27:22.869 --> 00:27:27.210
a hold of, but it had so much depth to it that

00:27:27.210 --> 00:27:31.150
it almost tricks some people, not me, but it,

00:27:31.150 --> 00:27:34.029
it, the layers, it's like a lasagna, you know?

00:27:34.029 --> 00:27:38.670
Right. And Chad's, Chad's drumming was the meat

00:27:38.670 --> 00:27:42.539
of it. Ed was the sauce on top and, and, and

00:27:42.539 --> 00:27:47.059
Chad was the meat, but the ability, Chad, your

00:27:47.059 --> 00:27:51.720
ability, people don't understand dynamics much

00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:54.279
these days. It seems like, and your ability to

00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:56.460
keep it quiet and rock music anymore. It's like,

00:27:56.460 --> 00:28:01.119
Oh, amen. Amen to that. And your ability to navigate

00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:04.180
the peaks and valleys is what made lives music.

00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:07.920
I mean, let's don't even talk about songs like

00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:09.859
white discussion and lakini's juice those are

00:28:09.859 --> 00:28:12.420
obvious but let's talk about songs like deeper

00:28:12.420 --> 00:28:16.119
let's talk about unsheathed let's talk about

00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:19.700
the list goes on of things that people just don't

00:28:19.700 --> 00:28:21.880
even think about it's like how are you guys missing

00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:24.640
what's happening right now it's it's unbelievable

00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:28.839
to me it really is it's the attention to detail

00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:31.039
that i paid to the songs i mean we all i mean

00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:34.289
we all did the four of us we were really into

00:28:34.289 --> 00:28:37.069
the details and the feelings of the songs in

00:28:37.069 --> 00:28:41.849
those days. It's beautiful. And we moved away

00:28:41.849 --> 00:28:44.809
from that. It's apparent when it happened and

00:28:44.809 --> 00:28:50.470
how it happened, but I don't think even today's

00:28:50.470 --> 00:28:53.750
versions of the band can even touch what we were

00:28:53.750 --> 00:28:59.670
doing. No, they can't. I don't want to blow Chad

00:28:59.670 --> 00:29:03.819
too much, but him... i did that enough last week

00:29:03.819 --> 00:29:06.579
no but him and patrick i think were a serious

00:29:06.579 --> 00:29:09.519
driving for again all four together but when

00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:11.920
you hear those bass parts and you hear those

00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:15.420
drum parts they're kind of unique to that style

00:29:15.420 --> 00:29:17.980
of music you know what i'm saying like they're

00:29:17.980 --> 00:29:20.960
um i don't want to say above and beyond because

00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:23.700
it's it they're not above or they're not beyond

00:29:23.700 --> 00:29:26.400
they're right on the money but there's just something

00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.160
about that rhythm section that really takes a

00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.519
simple three chord, four chord song and amplifies

00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:35.099
it to that next level where you're like, Whoa.

00:29:36.339 --> 00:29:40.140
So absolutely. I'm a big, I'm always locked.

00:29:40.339 --> 00:29:44.259
Sorry. Yeah. And I'm just echoing what you guys

00:29:44.259 --> 00:29:47.019
are saying. I'm a huge believer in less is more.

00:29:47.619 --> 00:29:50.200
A lot of people just want to fill noise and fill

00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:55.079
the space, which is important at times, but what's

00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:58.789
really separates the greats is the ability. to

00:29:58.789 --> 00:30:02.150
it's quiet as a church mouse one minute and then

00:30:02.150 --> 00:30:04.910
it's and if you can do that with three chords

00:30:04.910 --> 00:30:07.849
you're tapped into something special and live

00:30:07.849 --> 00:30:12.849
had a firm grasp of that and it was just absolutely

00:30:12.849 --> 00:30:18.170
it was unbelievable sonically music to your ears

00:30:18.170 --> 00:30:24.000
literally um Uh, so I did want to ask you this,

00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:27.519
uh, Mitch, you won a guitar, I believe on the

00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:31.440
fans of live, uh, Facebook group page, whatever,

00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:33.640
whatever it is. Can you tell me a little bit

00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:36.500
about that? Like, how did you win it? Where'd

00:30:36.500 --> 00:30:38.240
the contest come from? Like, just give me his

00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.460
background if you could. Absolutely. Um, and

00:30:41.460 --> 00:30:43.619
really it's, it's, it's, I mean, I think it's

00:30:43.619 --> 00:30:45.960
an awesome story. It's not much of a story, but

00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.380
it's an awesome story. It's very simple. Um,

00:30:49.299 --> 00:30:52.720
Somebody you guys know pretty well, Mr. Hines.

00:30:52.900 --> 00:30:59.420
Oh! I don't remember it even being a contest.

00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:04.400
He just reached out to me one day and said, and

00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:06.299
sorry, Bill, if I'm putting you on blast, but

00:31:06.299 --> 00:31:09.480
he reached out to me one day and said, Mitch,

00:31:09.500 --> 00:31:12.160
I got this thing, and it's sitting here, and

00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:14.759
I really feel like you would put it to use or

00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:19.440
appreciate it more than most. really like for

00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:21.220
you to have it and it's really not any more complicated

00:31:21.220 --> 00:31:23.500
than that and you know stuff like that it it

00:31:23.500 --> 00:31:26.519
you know i'm not too big to admit it pretty well

00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.940
had me moved to i was a little misty oh i was

00:31:29.940 --> 00:31:33.319
as you should that's that's very cool and that's

00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:35.279
i was gonna say that that's the kind of stuff

00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:37.039
that bill does behind the scenes that he isn't

00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:38.779
he doesn't even tell me about that kind of shit

00:31:38.779 --> 00:31:41.940
so he just does stuff because he wants to do

00:31:41.940 --> 00:31:44.240
stuff like that yeah he doesn't look for praise

00:31:45.019 --> 00:31:47.359
like if chad taylor gave you that guitar he'd

00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:49.460
be like i gave you the guitar already make a

00:31:49.460 --> 00:31:55.660
fucking video about it yeah well so anyway so

00:31:55.660 --> 00:31:59.380
it was extremely moving thing and it kills me

00:31:59.380 --> 00:32:01.799
that i can't play it uh i tried to play it a

00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:05.480
little bit but uh the signatures started to fade

00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:08.160
a little bit so right now it's kind of a collector's

00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:12.329
item that i just i have at a special uh But with

00:32:12.329 --> 00:32:14.990
all the signatures and knowing that Ed actually

00:32:14.990 --> 00:32:17.670
played that guitar, it's just, when I touch it,

00:32:17.690 --> 00:32:19.329
it just feels like, and I know that sounds dumb,

00:32:19.410 --> 00:32:21.990
but it's just, I'm almost scared to play it.

00:32:22.049 --> 00:32:24.650
Like I just set it to the side and I just stare

00:32:24.650 --> 00:32:27.369
at it sometimes. Well, it's a good thing to stare

00:32:27.369 --> 00:32:30.670
at, but you could put a clear acrylic over it.

00:32:30.769 --> 00:32:33.809
Yeah, that'll help. I've been looking into that.

00:32:34.910 --> 00:32:39.599
So the guitar is signed, am I correct? It's signed

00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:43.059
by everyone in The Gracious Few, and it was a

00:32:43.059 --> 00:32:47.440
guitar that Ed played circa, what, 2000, 2001,

00:32:47.619 --> 00:32:52.819
I think Bill said. A Tamini. Yes. I mean, on

00:32:52.819 --> 00:32:56.680
top of it having all that legendary status going

00:32:56.680 --> 00:32:58.839
with it, whether it was Ed's guitar or The Gracious

00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:02.140
Few signed it, just the guitar in itself is a

00:33:02.140 --> 00:33:05.059
beautiful sounding thing. Oh, yeah. It's just

00:33:05.059 --> 00:33:07.950
a perfect culmination of just... I mean, I'm

00:33:07.950 --> 00:33:11.309
not only getting Ed and live, I'm also getting

00:33:11.309 --> 00:33:14.069
the gracious view. It's like what it just doesn't

00:33:14.069 --> 00:33:16.329
get stuff like that just doesn't happen every

00:33:16.329 --> 00:33:18.970
day and stuff. But people like nobody's like

00:33:18.970 --> 00:33:23.170
me just really appreciate things like that. So,

00:33:23.230 --> 00:33:25.869
Bill, if you're watching, I cannot thank you

00:33:25.869 --> 00:33:29.650
enough. Thank you so much. Thank you, Bill. What

00:33:29.650 --> 00:33:30.829
part of the world are you in, Mitch? Are you

00:33:30.829 --> 00:33:33.549
in Pennsylvania? I might as well not be on the

00:33:33.549 --> 00:33:38.059
globe. Well, it's sad, but true. I'm in Southern

00:33:38.059 --> 00:33:46.440
Illinois. Okay. Exactly. Do you know Peoria?

00:33:47.420 --> 00:33:50.779
Yeah, I think I'm a, I might be an hour, hour

00:33:50.779 --> 00:33:53.400
and a half away from Peoria maybe, but just,

00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:56.599
just in the middle of nowhere, Bill cornfields,

00:33:56.599 --> 00:34:00.740
just, this is just where just nothing happens.

00:34:01.740 --> 00:34:04.140
Where are you honing physical craft? That's all.

00:34:04.180 --> 00:34:08.309
That's right. Well, I mean, let's think about

00:34:08.309 --> 00:34:10.989
it. It's another reason why I love the band live.

00:34:11.110 --> 00:34:13.929
I mean, just so many aspects you can look at

00:34:13.929 --> 00:34:18.510
with that band, but just the blue -collar -ness

00:34:18.510 --> 00:34:21.869
of it, the American dream of it, just four guys,

00:34:22.030 --> 00:34:25.590
high school, middle school, just doing it the

00:34:25.590 --> 00:34:29.050
old -fashioned way. This is a dead thing, and

00:34:29.050 --> 00:34:34.440
I don't want to see that go away. it breaks my

00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:37.139
heart that people aren't writing good rock music

00:34:37.139 --> 00:34:39.500
anymore and putting heart and soul into it. The

00:34:39.500 --> 00:34:41.659
soul has been sucked out of it and it's been

00:34:41.659 --> 00:34:44.320
packaged and put on a shelf and people don't

00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:47.360
want to make albums anymore. It's, it's, we got

00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:50.150
to get. there was a great band out of york that

00:34:50.150 --> 00:34:52.369
said let's get it back let's get it back together

00:34:52.369 --> 00:34:55.849
and that is a fact and i mean that in more ways

00:34:55.849 --> 00:34:57.630
than one because we got to get people back together

00:34:57.630 --> 00:35:00.670
too and live was music was about that it was

00:35:00.670 --> 00:35:03.989
about bringing people together and there's nothing

00:35:03.989 --> 00:35:06.230
more powerful than music in that sense and we

00:35:06.230 --> 00:35:10.489
need it now more than ever well put i agree and

00:35:10.489 --> 00:35:13.510
i and i like and chad you i don't know if you're

00:35:13.510 --> 00:35:15.230
in agreement with this too but it's like now

00:35:15.230 --> 00:35:19.170
lyrics aren't deep or meaningful there's no questioning

00:35:19.170 --> 00:35:21.670
of anything it's like let me just say this cool

00:35:21.670 --> 00:35:25.030
line that sounds cool to the masses and and is

00:35:25.030 --> 00:35:28.210
all poppy and you know hit these hot points rather

00:35:28.210 --> 00:35:31.449
than actually write real meaningful music like

00:35:31.449 --> 00:35:34.869
i'm thinking of taylor swift because i only know

00:35:34.869 --> 00:35:38.130
like her you know her radio uh friendly songs

00:35:38.130 --> 00:35:39.909
maybe she's got some deep cuts i don't know about

00:35:39.909 --> 00:35:44.119
but Probably not, right? My girls make me listen

00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.420
to all the records. I mean, it's fine music,

00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:50.639
but there's no deepness to it. It's all about

00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:52.380
her breaking up with boyfriends and people think

00:35:52.380 --> 00:35:58.079
she's crazy. Yes. Which... I don't know. You

00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:01.900
gotta be a little crazy to be still dating a

00:36:01.900 --> 00:36:05.539
guy who's promoting and getting paid $20 million

00:36:05.539 --> 00:36:09.800
to promote the COVID vaccine, as in Travis Kelsey.

00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:12.820
20 million you're getting paid to still promote

00:36:12.820 --> 00:36:17.480
this fucking thing. Whether you know it's killing

00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:21.199
people or know it's causing strokes, heart disease,

00:36:21.340 --> 00:36:23.980
stuff like that, you at least heard of it. And

00:36:23.980 --> 00:36:25.860
then you should question, well, should I really

00:36:25.860 --> 00:36:28.860
be dumping my name into this? And if the answer

00:36:28.860 --> 00:36:31.079
is yes, there's something wrong with you or you're

00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:34.420
fucking evil and money rules you. And I don't

00:36:34.420 --> 00:36:37.550
know what to say. But it's crazy at this state

00:36:37.550 --> 00:36:40.329
in age, at this stay of the game, I mean, to

00:36:40.329 --> 00:36:43.909
be getting paid for that fucking vaccine. It's

00:36:43.909 --> 00:36:47.110
just absurd. It is crazy. Back to what Mitch

00:36:47.110 --> 00:36:49.769
was saying about music. It's like, there's always,

00:36:49.789 --> 00:36:51.849
there's pendulums on everything, right? I mean,

00:36:51.869 --> 00:36:53.630
let's look at what was happening in the late

00:36:53.630 --> 00:36:57.630
80s before grunge came out and like artists like

00:36:57.630 --> 00:37:01.429
Pearl Jam and Nirvana and us and Smashing Pumpkins

00:37:01.429 --> 00:37:03.429
and all that stuff. Like that was all hair metal

00:37:03.429 --> 00:37:08.280
fucking. nonsense right those bands weren't singing

00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:10.599
about deep stuff like bringing people together

00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:12.519
and you know they were thinking about fucking

00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:15.019
chicks and partying and shit which is fine great

00:37:15.019 --> 00:37:18.019
but that's how music was and then it had this

00:37:18.019 --> 00:37:20.820
whole shift in the 90s into like this more serious

00:37:20.820 --> 00:37:23.780
thing and whether you like that or not it's you

00:37:23.780 --> 00:37:27.940
know it's fine but I loved it it was like music

00:37:27.940 --> 00:37:33.199
had integrity the artist had integrity yes and

00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.460
And then it changed. It's cyclical. I'm hoping

00:37:37.460 --> 00:37:39.860
it comes back. I hope it does, yeah. Because

00:37:39.860 --> 00:37:42.519
the 90s were getting back to what the 60s and

00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:45.119
70s made great and then the 80s ruined, which

00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:49.059
was like the singer -songwriter, deep, meaningful

00:37:49.059 --> 00:37:51.800
lyrics, a crazy cool band behind them. I'm thinking

00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:55.000
Jimi Hendrix. I'm thinking The Doors. Meaningful

00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:58.059
shit. And then, like you said, Chad, in the 80s,

00:37:58.059 --> 00:38:01.340
it went to spandex, big hair, makeup, and wish

00:38:01.340 --> 00:38:03.989
they all could be California girl lyrics. And,

00:38:04.050 --> 00:38:06.469
you know, they lost sight of something. And then

00:38:06.469 --> 00:38:09.269
thankfully, you know, like you said, maybe 89

00:38:09.269 --> 00:38:12.789
-ish, 90, whenever the change started to come

00:38:12.789 --> 00:38:16.289
and music went back to, you know, the roots of

00:38:16.289 --> 00:38:18.070
rock and roll. Not the roots, but when rock and

00:38:18.070 --> 00:38:20.570
roll became the shit. I was trying to explain

00:38:20.570 --> 00:38:22.989
the sea change that happened when Nirvana put

00:38:22.989 --> 00:38:28.130
out, you know, Nevermind. It's just like, hair

00:38:28.130 --> 00:38:33.789
metal died that day. Yeah. fucking wild to live

00:38:33.789 --> 00:38:35.130
through. I was trying to explain that to my son

00:38:35.130 --> 00:38:39.030
the other day. Definitely. Did you ever get to

00:38:39.030 --> 00:38:41.230
meet, Chad, did you ever get to meet Chris Cornell

00:38:41.230 --> 00:38:46.349
in any of your minglings? Yes. I mean, not in

00:38:46.349 --> 00:38:48.610
depth or anything, but yeah, I shook his hand

00:38:48.610 --> 00:38:51.809
and said hello to him a couple times, yeah. What

00:38:51.809 --> 00:38:57.050
a tragedy. What a tragedy. Absolutely. I'm going

00:38:57.050 --> 00:38:58.650
to ask you guys both this question and get an

00:38:58.650 --> 00:39:01.409
answer from both of you. What do you think about...

00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:06.679
uh kirk cobain's death do you find anything shady

00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:09.159
about it do you believe the story that was told

00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:14.260
to us um mitch if you want to go first yeah um

00:39:14.260 --> 00:39:19.619
you know what and i echo a lot of your guys's

00:39:19.619 --> 00:39:23.079
uh sentiments about things about life in general

00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:27.840
um we share a majority of the same views and

00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:31.559
we just We don't live, we live in an upside down

00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:35.199
world where you just, the truth is just, there's

00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:38.400
no telling. There's really, you can't, you can't

00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:42.300
trust anything or anyone these days. And, you

00:39:42.300 --> 00:39:45.159
know, I don't want to get too conspiratorial

00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:47.139
or anything like that. I know you guys got that

00:39:47.139 --> 00:39:50.519
covered, but no, I'm with you guys on a majority

00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:54.429
of things, but. Getting back to the music bit,

00:39:54.489 --> 00:39:57.389
not having any depth to it, it kind of ties in

00:39:57.389 --> 00:39:59.969
because I tend to think it's a little bit more

00:39:59.969 --> 00:40:02.849
nefarious than that. I think there's an honest

00:40:02.849 --> 00:40:07.769
push to have people neglect independent thought

00:40:07.769 --> 00:40:11.389
and actually be creative. Because if you're being

00:40:11.389 --> 00:40:13.190
creative, then you're thinking independently,

00:40:13.510 --> 00:40:16.170
and we don't want that. And it's a different

00:40:16.170 --> 00:40:19.289
world than it was when Cobain was here. Things

00:40:19.289 --> 00:40:24.440
have escalated. quickly on multiple fronts and

00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:28.219
there's no way of knowing i miss chris cornell

00:40:28.219 --> 00:40:30.719
in the depth of my being talk about another massive

00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:34.559
i mean that one hurt more than that one's tough

00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:41.420
to describe but um i'm rambling but again there's

00:40:41.420 --> 00:40:43.440
no i don't know the truth chad would know more

00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:47.440
than me probably but independent thought we need

00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:51.409
to take thought Yeah. The media has got us weaponized.

00:40:51.730 --> 00:40:54.130
It's being used as a weapon. If you can't see

00:40:54.130 --> 00:40:56.230
that, we're going to have a hard time getting

00:40:56.230 --> 00:40:58.389
off to a solid conversation because it's, it

00:40:58.389 --> 00:41:00.530
couldn't be any more clear as day that it's being

00:41:00.530 --> 00:41:02.690
used as a weapon against us. And it's time we

00:41:02.690 --> 00:41:05.710
use it, use their own toys against them. Yeah.

00:41:05.769 --> 00:41:08.769
Let's do it. Let's do it through music. I want

00:41:08.769 --> 00:41:10.829
to add one other thing. And then, and then Chad,

00:41:10.869 --> 00:41:12.769
get your thing on Kurt Cobain. But I just want

00:41:12.769 --> 00:41:16.030
to add one thing to that. It's the fact that,

00:41:16.030 --> 00:41:18.940
you know, Like you said, they don't want the

00:41:18.940 --> 00:41:21.219
free thinking. They want us all to just fall

00:41:21.219 --> 00:41:26.260
in line and do as they say. And people who kind

00:41:26.260 --> 00:41:29.239
of go against that narrative, Kurt Cobain, Biggie

00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:34.420
Smalls, Tupac, like dead. Like Tupac's death

00:41:34.420 --> 00:41:36.900
hadn't been solved for, what, 20 -something years,

00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:40.719
and now they're giving us this story about it.

00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:44.420
Biggie's death never solved. You know, Jim Morrison

00:41:44.420 --> 00:41:47.889
taken out in his prime. Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix,

00:41:47.969 --> 00:41:50.309
all people that were, I don't want to say starting

00:41:50.309 --> 00:41:52.429
a revolution, but were waking people's minds

00:41:52.429 --> 00:41:55.269
up. So that's why I ask about the Kurt Cobain

00:41:55.269 --> 00:41:59.110
thing, Chad. Do you think that it was a suicide

00:41:59.110 --> 00:42:01.329
or do you think that, because I've heard Courtney

00:42:01.329 --> 00:42:04.710
Love did it. I heard a bunch of that. I mean,

00:42:04.710 --> 00:42:07.130
I saw a whole documentary on that not being a

00:42:07.130 --> 00:42:09.349
suicide, et cetera. But, you know, who knows?

00:42:09.349 --> 00:42:12.889
I do know that Kurt Cobain had some kind of severe

00:42:12.889 --> 00:42:14.989
stomach issues and he got hooked on heroin because

00:42:14.989 --> 00:42:18.349
of that. Yeah. And that'll certainly, you know,

00:42:18.349 --> 00:42:24.510
fuck you up big time. So, um, I think the fame

00:42:24.510 --> 00:42:27.150
was a big problem for him. The amount of fame.

00:42:27.230 --> 00:42:30.250
I mean, like he's, it's, you probably didn't

00:42:30.250 --> 00:42:32.150
get any bigger in the nineties and Kurt Cobain,

00:42:32.230 --> 00:42:35.489
as far as personal musician that everyone frigging

00:42:35.489 --> 00:42:37.550
like a, I mean, an individual musician that everyone

00:42:37.550 --> 00:42:42.369
knew. I mean, just imagine you walking, you can't

00:42:42.369 --> 00:42:45.829
walk down the street anywhere. Right. So, and

00:42:45.829 --> 00:42:49.389
thank God like live was big. We never that big.

00:42:49.469 --> 00:42:53.869
Thank God. I do not want that. So I don't know.

00:42:53.889 --> 00:42:57.869
I would say it was probably a suicide. I don't

00:42:57.869 --> 00:43:00.650
mean there's a conspiracy about him being murdered,

00:43:00.750 --> 00:43:03.869
but who knows? Yeah. I mean, just a couple of

00:43:03.869 --> 00:43:06.289
things that made my head think one, they said

00:43:06.289 --> 00:43:09.449
he was on like too much heroin to almost be awake,

00:43:09.590 --> 00:43:13.250
but then also like too much to hold a gun, a

00:43:13.250 --> 00:43:16.679
big shotgun. And then they were saying that his

00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:18.900
arms were too short to pull the trigger. He might

00:43:18.900 --> 00:43:21.980
have had to use a toe to do it. Right, yeah,

00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:27.039
which is crazy to think about. But if someone's

00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:28.539
determined to do it, they can figure out how

00:43:28.539 --> 00:43:31.139
to do it. Totally. And then you could chalk up

00:43:31.139 --> 00:43:32.579
the other thing, too, where he's on too much

00:43:32.579 --> 00:43:35.360
heroin to be awake. He might have had such a

00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:37.960
habit that his body could be awake on it. You

00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:39.639
know what I'm saying? He might have had such

00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:41.909
a tolerance. So I'm just throwing it out there

00:43:41.909 --> 00:43:44.650
because, you know, it is funny that a lot of

00:43:44.650 --> 00:43:48.110
these influential people just all of a sudden

00:43:48.110 --> 00:43:51.590
vanish. And at 27, a lot of them went, which

00:43:51.590 --> 00:43:54.429
is wacky tabacky. That's the 27 number. Yeah.

00:43:54.489 --> 00:43:57.150
There is that one conspiracy theory about Chris

00:43:57.150 --> 00:44:00.050
Cornell and Chester. They were working on supposedly

00:44:00.050 --> 00:44:04.170
a, I don't know if it's a documentary to expose

00:44:04.170 --> 00:44:06.889
all the pedophilia shit going on in Hollywood.

00:44:07.170 --> 00:44:10.940
Yes. I've gone down that rabbit hole. I don't

00:44:10.940 --> 00:44:13.019
know if it was actually real or not, but they

00:44:13.019 --> 00:44:15.619
both died pretty close to each other, which is

00:44:15.619 --> 00:44:20.260
pretty wild. I did hear that as well. Did Chester

00:44:20.260 --> 00:44:23.440
die before or after Epstein's Island was exposed?

00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:29.840
I think before. He died right around Chris Cornell,

00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:36.880
so that was, what, 17? So before. So I wonder

00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:41.719
if that was like what he was or they were going

00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:43.519
to like put out. You know what I'm saying? Because

00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:46.539
that's the biggest one we know about to date.

00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:50.059
You know, you got to wonder if maybe he was going

00:44:50.059 --> 00:44:54.039
to expose that or because, you know, apparently

00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:56.960
he wasn't talking about suicide and shit for

00:44:56.960 --> 00:44:59.059
like months. Like he was depressed and shit before

00:44:59.059 --> 00:45:01.099
that. But supposedly he was like in good spirits.

00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:05.260
It's just crazy. You know. Poor guy and his family.

00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:07.039
And then you got Epstein's Island. No one's been

00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:10.500
arrested. Because Ghislaine. Ghislaine's in jail,

00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:15.219
but yeah. It's okay. Don't worry. That was a

00:45:15.219 --> 00:45:17.360
conspiracy theory too that was even happening.

00:45:18.539 --> 00:45:20.960
Well, just think about... When do people learn

00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:24.019
this? You start to hear mumblings about shit.

00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:26.380
Do a little research. You figure out it's fucking

00:45:26.380 --> 00:45:28.099
real. And then they're like, no, it's not real.

00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:33.780
Don't be crazy. Yeah, it is. Right. Here's my

00:45:33.780 --> 00:45:36.559
scenario for you guys. So say you're invited

00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:40.260
to an island, you know, and they tell you, listen,

00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:43.559
Will Smith's going to be there. Bill Gates, like,

00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:46.199
you know, a bunch of bunch of famous people that

00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:48.760
you would be part of. And then you get to the

00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:52.219
island and there's hot chicks scantily clad.

00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:55.260
And then you start seeing like what looks like

00:45:55.260 --> 00:45:59.079
miners walking around at what. point do you just

00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:01.960
keep being complicit with what's going on and

00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:04.619
at one point do you like uh what the fuck's going

00:46:04.619 --> 00:46:07.300
on here like why is there a fucking 13 year old

00:46:07.300 --> 00:46:09.820
that looks like a 13 year old walking around

00:46:09.820 --> 00:46:14.239
their bra and panties like i just gotta i i just

00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:18.360
gotta wonder like when you know because i heard

00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:20.059
that like some of them were caught off guard

00:46:20.059 --> 00:46:22.300
whereas like they didn't know and then all of

00:46:22.300 --> 00:46:23.800
a sudden they're on camera and he comes in and

00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:25.980
say listen keep your mouth shut about this we

00:46:25.980 --> 00:46:29.630
got you on camera But I just don't, like, I still

00:46:29.630 --> 00:46:31.929
think that you are part of the problem, fooled

00:46:31.929 --> 00:46:34.889
or not. You have to see, you know, these multiple

00:46:34.889 --> 00:46:38.590
underage people there and fucking be like, all

00:46:38.590 --> 00:46:40.769
right, I got to get the fuck out of here. You

00:46:40.769 --> 00:46:43.630
know what I'm saying? Like, I just, I don't get

00:46:43.630 --> 00:46:48.090
it. 100%. But, you know, I think we are kind

00:46:48.090 --> 00:46:50.250
of normal people. Most of those people that are

00:46:50.250 --> 00:46:53.969
on that list are, you know, they're very famous

00:46:53.969 --> 00:46:57.760
for a reason. Or they're very powerful. And so

00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.659
they think they can do whatever they want. Right.

00:47:01.340 --> 00:47:03.639
So yeah, they want to have sex with a 13 year

00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:05.179
old girl. Yeah, I can fucking do that. Whatever.

00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:08.920
It's gross. It's disgusting as fuck, but they'll

00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:12.639
do it. They look at people as like a property

00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:15.559
and stuff that they can buy. Like not for nothing.

00:47:15.699 --> 00:47:18.519
I'm hearing, you know, he was basically giving

00:47:18.519 --> 00:47:22.139
little girls $200 for a massage and then, and

00:47:22.139 --> 00:47:24.980
then raping them like, or molesting, whatever,

00:47:25.059 --> 00:47:27.449
whatever the fuck it was. But like, you're going

00:47:27.449 --> 00:47:29.710
to do all that shitty shit to him and then just

00:47:29.710 --> 00:47:33.409
give him 200 bucks. Like at least fucking buy

00:47:33.409 --> 00:47:35.409
them away or some shit. Like, and what was his

00:47:35.409 --> 00:47:36.710
thought? Did he never think these girls were

00:47:36.710 --> 00:47:39.170
going to grow up and tell these stories? Like,

00:47:39.230 --> 00:47:41.530
or did, was he so brazen? He didn't give a fuck.

00:47:41.550 --> 00:47:45.690
I guess that was it. Really? Good question. Probably.

00:47:47.289 --> 00:47:49.170
He's just brazen. Didn't give a fuck. Didn't

00:47:49.170 --> 00:47:50.389
think he'd get in trouble. He thought he was

00:47:50.389 --> 00:47:52.920
untouchable. Well, the girls are suing the FBI

00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:55.079
now because they were like, we reported this

00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:59.079
to you years ago and you did nothing. Right.

00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:02.659
So like now that's probably going to get exposed.

00:48:02.699 --> 00:48:04.460
Like that's going to be a black mark on the FBI

00:48:04.460 --> 00:48:06.639
because they'll be able to go through, see when

00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:08.719
it was reported, actually see what investigation

00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:11.480
they did. Those records can't be sealed. That

00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:13.960
should be public knowledge. I mean, it's a fucking

00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:18.159
pedophilia case. You know, the present guy stays

00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:21.809
in office. That should be sealed. Yeah. It'll

00:48:21.809 --> 00:48:24.389
be in his garage next to his Corvette. Exactly.

00:48:26.550 --> 00:48:28.650
He's not fit to stand trial, though, because

00:48:28.650 --> 00:48:30.949
he's an old man with memory problems, but can

00:48:30.949 --> 00:48:34.230
run the fucking country. Yes. It makes sense,

00:48:34.309 --> 00:48:37.590
doesn't it? That was another thing. If something

00:48:37.590 --> 00:48:41.909
seems like common sense, it's probably the case.

00:48:41.909 --> 00:48:44.409
And the other side that they're telling you is

00:48:44.409 --> 00:48:45.730
a lie. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's

00:48:45.730 --> 00:48:47.440
so many things where you're like. that doesn't

00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:49.619
make any sense. You know, like that's not, it's

00:48:49.619 --> 00:48:51.840
not, and then you're like, Oh, because it's bullshit.

00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:55.099
Like if you have, exactly. Yeah. You know what

00:48:55.099 --> 00:48:57.840
I'm saying? Uh, Mitch, I see you looking up this

00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:01.880
term. Hold on. Term limits. People. Yeah. All

00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:05.039
that for sure. Mitch, while he's doing it, I

00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:07.800
got a question. So do you, and, uh, is it strong?

00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:10.619
What was the guy's last name? Your partner, your

00:49:10.619 --> 00:49:14.539
musical partner. Strong. Kyle strong. Kyle strong.

00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:17.949
Have you guys. played any open mics or any gigs

00:49:17.949 --> 00:49:19.650
or anything or you're still just honing it and

00:49:19.650 --> 00:49:23.309
kind of practicing honing it definitely practicing

00:49:23.309 --> 00:49:26.969
and honing for sure uh we've played for some

00:49:26.969 --> 00:49:30.670
small groups of friends but again you talk about

00:49:30.670 --> 00:49:35.050
resources where i'm at there's just it's it's

00:49:35.050 --> 00:49:37.289
i couldn't it's hard to imagine a worse place

00:49:37.289 --> 00:49:41.059
to to live and want to pursue music and actually

00:49:41.059 --> 00:49:43.980
try to get anywhere. I'm literally just surrounded

00:49:43.980 --> 00:49:47.139
by corn fields, or I can drive into the murder

00:49:47.139 --> 00:49:51.639
capital of the country, St. Louis. So I just

00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:54.579
really don't, there's just not a lot of resources.

00:49:54.860 --> 00:49:57.920
That's why anytime I get chances to jump on things

00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:00.019
like this, I do right away. If nothing else,

00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:04.039
just to get name out and try to build some steam

00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.150
online and see what can happen. It's never I'm

00:50:07.150 --> 00:50:10.150
never going to stop writing or I adore it too

00:50:10.150 --> 00:50:14.150
much to to not do it. It's too cathartic for

00:50:14.150 --> 00:50:17.170
me to not do it. And when you get to do it with

00:50:17.170 --> 00:50:20.849
your best friend who's a neighbor and we work

00:50:20.849 --> 00:50:23.969
together, too. So we're basically just inseparable

00:50:23.969 --> 00:50:25.530
at this point to be able to do that kind of stuff

00:50:25.530 --> 00:50:27.050
with your best friend. Chad, you know what that's

00:50:27.050 --> 00:50:30.690
like. It's it's a blessing to be able to have

00:50:30.690 --> 00:50:33.349
someone like that that you can go on the ride

00:50:33.349 --> 00:50:37.099
with. Yeah, fortunately I had three really good

00:50:37.099 --> 00:50:39.320
friends to do it with, but we were all single

00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:44.360
-mindedly focused on one thing at the time. Which

00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:46.780
is good, and collectively all focused on the

00:50:46.780 --> 00:50:49.920
same thing. The drive is, and you each hold each

00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:52.300
other up when you're going down. It's a kismet

00:50:52.300 --> 00:50:54.739
thing. Yeah, talk about manifesting. There you

00:50:54.739 --> 00:50:57.880
go. Yeah, yeah. I was just going to say, because

00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:01.860
live basically manifested their destiny. I'm

00:51:01.860 --> 00:51:03.280
hearing from you, Mitch, that there's really

00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:05.619
not many opportunities for you to get out and

00:51:05.619 --> 00:51:09.300
play. So if you were hoping to make this a living,

00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:13.059
is it just by getting followers and your music

00:51:13.059 --> 00:51:18.059
out online? Or do you ever plan on maybe moving

00:51:18.059 --> 00:51:20.260
somewhere where there's a little bit more of

00:51:20.260 --> 00:51:22.119
a scene happening for you? This way you could

00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:26.579
play out and whatnot. That's a trickier question.

00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:32.030
I'll keep it as short as possible. Yeah, ideally,

00:51:32.309 --> 00:51:36.269
you would just move, right? There's multiple

00:51:36.269 --> 00:51:40.449
reasons why I don't. For one, I have the best

00:51:40.449 --> 00:51:43.889
parents on planet Earth. And I don't mean that

00:51:43.889 --> 00:51:47.349
in exaggeration. Literal salt of the earth. I

00:51:47.349 --> 00:51:49.269
pity people that don't have parents like I do.

00:51:49.989 --> 00:51:53.829
My mom, within the past few years, has had a

00:51:53.829 --> 00:51:59.369
bout with breast cancer. My dad's trying to retire.

00:52:00.099 --> 00:52:02.519
he's kind of wired to where he can't sit still,

00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:06.260
but point is, is I live really close to them.

00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:09.239
I do have a sister, but she had to relocate to

00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:13.300
Houston, Texas due to job reasons. So I'm trying

00:52:13.300 --> 00:52:15.239
to kind of keep an eye on them and stay close

00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.420
and make sure that they're going to be okay.

00:52:18.039 --> 00:52:20.739
Cause some things are bigger than you, right?

00:52:20.940 --> 00:52:25.079
Yeah. Right now, it's mainly trying to drum up.

00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:28.199
I could drive probably 45 minutes and find some

00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:31.139
little tiny clubs to play with. Play at, I'm

00:52:31.139 --> 00:52:34.940
sorry. But I don't see us getting huge exposure

00:52:34.940 --> 00:52:38.960
from it. But definitely online right now is our

00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:42.400
big mode of attack until we can figure out what

00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:47.139
the next step is going to be. Well said. And

00:52:47.139 --> 00:52:49.099
the fact that you have places 45 minutes away

00:52:49.099 --> 00:52:52.559
is not incredibly bad. But you did say one thing

00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:54.699
that I just want to give you the flip side of

00:52:54.699 --> 00:52:56.900
it. Yeah, these little places you play might

00:52:56.900 --> 00:52:59.639
not give you the exposure that you want, but

00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:02.460
it'll give you that feeling that you crave. And,

00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:05.079
you know, it's people hearing your music and

00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:07.099
vibing to it. You know what I'm saying? There's

00:53:07.099 --> 00:53:09.800
nothing better than playing in front of an audience,

00:53:09.940 --> 00:53:12.239
even if it's an audience of two people. You know

00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:15.659
what I'm saying? It's just the feeling. It's

00:53:15.659 --> 00:53:18.079
different than performing online. You know what

00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:20.300
I'm saying? I think it's priceless what you could

00:53:20.300 --> 00:53:22.019
get from it, even if you don't get the exposure.

00:53:22.940 --> 00:53:27.239
Absolutely. And Kyle and I are in the process

00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:31.000
of trying to get a set list together so we can

00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:34.219
start doing things like that. We've basically

00:53:34.219 --> 00:53:36.940
got an album's worth of original music as it

00:53:36.940 --> 00:53:40.360
is, if not a little more. And then plenty of

00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:45.530
covers, plenty of live covers. we're trying to

00:53:45.530 --> 00:53:47.829
get us a little set list together so we can get

00:53:47.829 --> 00:53:50.449
out and, and start doing it because you're right.

00:53:50.530 --> 00:53:53.769
There's nothing better, especially for me. Um,

00:53:54.030 --> 00:53:58.429
I, I love, I love to sing. Um, I can play a little

00:53:58.429 --> 00:54:00.570
bit of guitar. I suck at it, but no, you don't.

00:54:01.369 --> 00:54:05.329
I appreciate it, but I kind of, I do kind of

00:54:05.329 --> 00:54:10.130
suck, but vocals are my, I live for it. And you

00:54:10.130 --> 00:54:11.769
said it, John, there's something about being

00:54:11.769 --> 00:54:15.750
up there. And when it's, Especially when I'm

00:54:15.750 --> 00:54:18.349
so influenced by a singer like Ed that just can

00:54:18.349 --> 00:54:21.030
get up there and just belt it, just full throttle.

00:54:21.349 --> 00:54:23.769
And there's that moment when you're doing that

00:54:23.769 --> 00:54:25.929
that you get in this pocket and it's like you

00:54:25.929 --> 00:54:29.210
go into a bubble. Yeah. Your whole body gets

00:54:29.210 --> 00:54:33.969
warm. And it's like that feeling, you live for

00:54:33.969 --> 00:54:37.349
that. And that feeling is, I'm doing what I was

00:54:37.349 --> 00:54:40.489
put here to do. And not everyone gets to touch

00:54:40.489 --> 00:54:45.190
that. There's something so special about that,

00:54:45.210 --> 00:54:47.909
and I yearn for that. So you're right. We have

00:54:47.909 --> 00:54:50.210
to get out there, if nothing else, to perform

00:54:50.210 --> 00:54:52.849
in front of the crowd and have that feeling,

00:54:52.929 --> 00:54:55.250
even if it is only three people. So I'm in absolute

00:54:55.250 --> 00:54:58.550
agreement with you. Chad, for somebody like you

00:54:58.550 --> 00:55:01.650
who has kind of felt that but also felt it on

00:55:01.650 --> 00:55:04.869
a massive scale, is there a difference in feeling

00:55:04.869 --> 00:55:09.670
from playing your shit in front of 100? people

00:55:09.670 --> 00:55:13.210
or you know 10 000 people or do you kind of still

00:55:13.210 --> 00:55:17.230
get the same thing but um a little ample i i

00:55:17.230 --> 00:55:18.909
don't know i guess i guess what i'm trying to

00:55:18.909 --> 00:55:21.610
say is it better to be not monetarily but feeling

00:55:21.610 --> 00:55:25.369
wise be playing in front of 10 000 or 100 or

00:55:25.369 --> 00:55:28.269
is there a difference i mean yeah there's a difference

00:55:28.269 --> 00:55:31.989
obviously in the amount of energy but um as far

00:55:31.989 --> 00:55:35.869
as the feeling on stage now i can i can be as

00:55:35.869 --> 00:55:39.119
into a club show as a into an arena show like

00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:42.739
it's yeah you know the energy for me is still

00:55:42.739 --> 00:55:47.860
there so it's um it's always nice to do both

00:55:47.860 --> 00:55:50.099
like go back and forth like not not necessarily

00:55:50.099 --> 00:55:53.360
play amphitheaters and arenas all the time and

00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:55.800
go back and do some club shows because they're

00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:57.880
all they're more intimate yeah they're up in

00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:00.139
your face a little bit more which is great yeah

00:56:00.139 --> 00:56:02.619
for us for us in the songwriting thing it was

00:56:02.619 --> 00:56:04.079
just important to get out and play in front of

00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:07.210
people because you play no matter what you do

00:56:07.210 --> 00:56:09.449
in practice you play the songs harder in front

00:56:09.449 --> 00:56:12.050
of people like so and that can be a good thing

00:56:12.050 --> 00:56:13.909
or a bad thing like it can teach you oh yeah

00:56:13.909 --> 00:56:16.150
we can't play that song that fast or this this

00:56:16.150 --> 00:56:18.449
hard that that destroys the feel of the song

00:56:18.449 --> 00:56:21.650
or oh shit that song felt way better playing

00:56:21.650 --> 00:56:25.969
it fucking faster or harder or or then or you

00:56:25.969 --> 00:56:27.670
know you do a little improv and do something

00:56:27.670 --> 00:56:29.210
different in the song that you hadn't written

00:56:29.210 --> 00:56:32.530
for like we did we did a lot we used to you know

00:56:32.530 --> 00:56:34.429
we write songs and then go out and play a couple

00:56:34.429 --> 00:56:39.820
shows and and just home live it was it was always

00:56:39.820 --> 00:56:41.639
gave us a better interpretation of the songs

00:56:41.639 --> 00:56:45.079
your your 1998 shows i i've talked this about

00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:47.900
a couple times with you because you were really

00:56:47.900 --> 00:56:50.280
doing that with the you you played four songs

00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:53.039
i knew that night uh the rest were all brand

00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:55.159
new stuff that was going to the distance to hear

00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:59.079
stuff that went to five like overcome and stuff

00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:01.280
that didn't make it uh to anything there were

00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:05.929
b -sides but Man, it was cool. I mean, they sounded

00:57:05.929 --> 00:57:08.949
perfectly formed and ready to roll. I don't know

00:57:08.949 --> 00:57:10.269
if you guys were still working them out, but

00:57:10.269 --> 00:57:13.309
it was just cool to see and hear brand new music

00:57:13.309 --> 00:57:16.289
from you guys. And, you know, as a fan, when

00:57:16.289 --> 00:57:17.969
you go to concerts, like, yes, I know every song

00:57:17.969 --> 00:57:20.329
I'm singing along. But this, it was like, again,

00:57:20.369 --> 00:57:22.750
I knew like three or four. And then the rest

00:57:22.750 --> 00:57:25.289
that you played felt like I knew them already.

00:57:25.429 --> 00:57:29.190
Like, that's how well they were written. Yeah,

00:57:29.309 --> 00:57:33.199
it's a true stowray. And that was, you were going

00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:35.820
from big amphitheaters in 97, and then you did

00:57:35.820 --> 00:57:38.900
this like little chameleon club, stone pony thing

00:57:38.900 --> 00:57:40.900
in 98, I guess, just to play these new songs

00:57:40.900 --> 00:57:43.500
in front of people and see the react. Yeah, basically,

00:57:43.659 --> 00:57:45.659
yes. Before we started, I think we probably did

00:57:45.659 --> 00:57:48.559
that before we started pre -production for the

00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:50.119
record, or maybe we were doing pre -production.

00:57:50.179 --> 00:57:54.579
98, we were recording, I think we recorded Distance

00:57:54.579 --> 00:57:58.280
Here sometime in 98, I believe. And then released

00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:03.010
in 99, I think. Yeah, so. Did you have something

00:58:03.010 --> 00:58:04.369
you looked up before that you wanted to bring

00:58:04.369 --> 00:58:09.909
up? I was looking up Occam's Razor. If there's

00:58:09.909 --> 00:58:13.250
two scenarios to one problem, the one with the

00:58:13.250 --> 00:58:16.429
least resistance is usually what is true, right?

00:58:17.230 --> 00:58:20.190
Yes, which is basically leading to our common

00:58:20.190 --> 00:58:23.929
sense talk. If it seems sensical, it probably

00:58:23.929 --> 00:58:28.679
is. Mitch, so you know how we do this, man. I

00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:31.320
love to keep the audience wanting the guests

00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:33.639
to come back on and wanting more. Is there anything

00:58:33.639 --> 00:58:36.360
you want to direct the audience to as far as,

00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:39.219
you know, social medias or anything like that?

00:58:40.340 --> 00:58:45.820
Yeah, absolutely. Well, Kyle and I have a YouTube

00:58:45.820 --> 00:58:50.880
channel. Just search Collins and Strawn. Same

00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:57.300
for Facebook, Collins and Strawn. And I also

00:58:57.300 --> 00:58:59.980
have my own personal YouTube channel. Just type

00:58:59.980 --> 00:59:04.360
in Mitch Collins and you'll find 45 live covers

00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:07.400
on there and sprinkled with some others and a

00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:10.840
bunch of original work. I'm going to do this

00:59:10.840 --> 00:59:13.539
before we let you off here. I want to pull up

00:59:13.539 --> 00:59:16.320
one of your videos and let Chad see it. It's

00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:19.880
a cover that you do of one of their songs. Again,

00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:22.670
this is one where I find cool where it's... You

00:59:22.670 --> 00:59:24.690
have the essence of the song, but you make it

00:59:24.690 --> 00:59:28.090
your own. Uh, Bob A, if you're, if you got that

00:59:28.090 --> 00:59:30.630
video pulled up with sound, I would love you

00:59:30.630 --> 00:59:35.510
for life. If not, I know where you live. Uh,

00:59:35.550 --> 00:59:39.090
but yeah, dude, this is cool. So, and, and, and

00:59:39.090 --> 00:59:41.349
you rip on your guitar skills, but this shows

00:59:41.349 --> 00:59:43.829
them off where, you know, you're picking out

00:59:43.829 --> 00:59:46.070
single notes while singing over it. I mean, it's

00:59:46.070 --> 00:59:48.050
not an easy feat, dude. So don't, don't knock

00:59:48.050 --> 00:59:50.250
yourself. What's the YouTube again? Collins and

00:59:50.250 --> 00:59:53.619
what? Collins and Strawn. It's just our last

00:59:53.619 --> 00:59:59.940
names. S -T -R -A -W -N. S -T -R -A -W -N. Okay.

01:00:00.860 --> 01:00:06.280
Yes. All righty. This should be it, ladies and

01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:10.019
gentlemen. And this is Mitch Collins on his own.

01:00:11.579 --> 01:00:15.039
And we'll take a listen. I got to stop it at

01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:16.599
some point because if we go over a certain amount

01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:19.219
of time, copyright people come after us. But

01:00:19.219 --> 01:00:24.119
give it a whirl. Bye -bye. Did you share with

01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:30.980
the sound that sound button click? I don't believe

01:00:30.980 --> 01:00:32.579
so. I'm going to stop it, Bobby. If you could

01:00:32.579 --> 01:00:37.539
give me another, you could do that again. I'm

01:00:37.539 --> 01:00:39.179
going to, I'm going to start. I was going to

01:00:39.179 --> 01:00:42.260
say this may not work, but here we go. Yeah.

01:00:42.300 --> 01:00:45.159
We go through this every show. It's like a, I

01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:47.659
think a running joke that Bobby plays on us.

01:00:47.699 --> 01:00:50.510
I'm not sure. There's like a little stern sound

01:00:50.510 --> 01:00:54.130
guy. His whole fucking bit was like, Scott, it's

01:00:54.130 --> 01:00:56.849
fucked up. The sound's fucked up. He blamed it

01:00:56.849 --> 01:00:59.510
on Scott. Oh, Scott the engineer. Yeah, Scott

01:00:59.510 --> 01:01:02.949
the engineer. It's like us and our fucking, like,

01:01:03.070 --> 01:01:07.849
Bobby. Bobby, how dare you? Get your shit together.

01:01:10.150 --> 01:01:13.670
Hey, John, while he's pulling that up, can I

01:01:13.670 --> 01:01:18.900
take two seconds to be in the spirit of... keeping

01:01:18.900 --> 01:01:21.739
people together um you need to ask mitch by all

01:01:21.739 --> 01:01:24.780
means please absolutely great because this is

01:01:24.780 --> 01:01:27.980
the part i look forward to the most is i want

01:01:27.980 --> 01:01:31.760
to give a shout out to a few folks um obviously

01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:36.579
the two of you no question but without the fans

01:01:36.579 --> 01:01:39.599
of life group and the other fan pages i mean

01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:42.260
it's really been incredible especially fans of

01:01:42.260 --> 01:01:46.539
life i've met some absolutely incredible And

01:01:46.539 --> 01:01:50.260
we've never met in the flesh, but just people

01:01:50.260 --> 01:01:52.579
that have really touched me from other parts

01:01:52.579 --> 01:01:56.119
of the country and the globe even. So if you

01:01:56.119 --> 01:01:58.559
don't mind, just real quick, maybe 20 names.

01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:07.579
Dane Miller, Rich, Mary Swain, Josh, Nick, Dylan,

01:02:07.900 --> 01:02:15.679
Colin, Mary DePell, Diane, Lizzie. Jennifer Sanders,

01:02:15.980 --> 01:02:20.500
Christy Epps, Phil Jones, my man, Thomas Enters,

01:02:20.579 --> 01:02:23.940
Matt Adams, Jason Clayton, of course, Bill Hines.

01:02:24.039 --> 01:02:26.820
And I really apologize if I'm forgetting anybody.

01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:31.239
It's not intentional. I know I'm missing people.

01:02:31.460 --> 01:02:34.260
But these are people that have really, really

01:02:34.260 --> 01:02:40.690
touched me in a big way. And Steve Sabo, who

01:02:40.690 --> 01:02:43.889
you just had on a few weeks ago, and I apologize,

01:02:44.130 --> 01:02:46.250
Steve, but I just want to give a quick example,

01:02:46.250 --> 01:02:50.909
if I may. He might not even remember this. Steve,

01:02:50.969 --> 01:02:53.090
you might not remember this, but there was a

01:02:53.090 --> 01:02:55.130
time, months, and it might have been a few years

01:02:55.130 --> 01:02:57.730
ago where I was having this conversation about,

01:02:57.769 --> 01:02:59.789
man, I need to relocate. I need to find a way

01:02:59.789 --> 01:03:02.409
of making this music happen. Steve actually reached

01:03:02.409 --> 01:03:05.530
out to me from where he lives, and I think he's

01:03:05.530 --> 01:03:07.610
closer to you guys on the East Coast, and said,

01:03:08.409 --> 01:03:11.130
hey man I got a room for you if you need it and

01:03:11.130 --> 01:03:13.730
when you hear stuff like that from people from

01:03:13.730 --> 01:03:17.389
the other side like that's just that's that to

01:03:17.389 --> 01:03:21.530
me is what makes lives music special and that's

01:03:21.530 --> 01:03:25.269
it's it's us as the collective and and what that

01:03:25.269 --> 01:03:27.610
music has done to all of us to bring us all together

01:03:27.610 --> 01:03:30.730
like that it's a beautiful thing and the world

01:03:30.730 --> 01:03:33.090
needs more of it we need more lives out there

01:03:33.090 --> 01:03:35.219
and if I've got any part of it I'm going to try

01:03:35.219 --> 01:03:37.260
to keep the spirit of that music alive the best

01:03:37.260 --> 01:03:40.360
I can until the day I die, because we need it.

01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:47.239
Very cool. Echo that sentiment. It's great. Yeah.

01:03:47.300 --> 01:03:50.559
Not only has live built a beautiful fan base

01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:52.920
for, you know, that love their music, but they've

01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:56.199
built a community that embraces each other too.

01:03:56.320 --> 01:03:59.260
Yeah. People get in squabbles and take sides

01:03:59.260 --> 01:04:01.719
and stuff, but when push comes to shove. All

01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:04.679
the live community can pull together and, and,

01:04:04.780 --> 01:04:06.320
you know, help each other, which is a beautiful

01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:08.380
thing. And I just want to shout out the other,

01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:12.420
uh, fans of live, uh, groups just so they, people

01:04:12.420 --> 01:04:14.380
could go on Facebook and see you got freaks for

01:04:14.380 --> 01:04:18.280
live and you got friends of live fans of live.

01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:22.019
So all three of those are, are cool pages to

01:04:22.019 --> 01:04:25.800
go to, to get exclusive stuff. Uh, fans of live

01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:27.659
is the one I'm on mostly, but I try to share

01:04:27.659 --> 01:04:30.949
things to all of them, uh, as well. Mitch, we

01:04:30.949 --> 01:04:32.510
do have your video, though, so I don't want you

01:04:32.510 --> 01:04:33.929
to go anywhere until we get to play a little

01:04:33.929 --> 01:04:36.949
bit of this. Bob A. Come on, Bob A. Get it right.

01:04:37.309 --> 01:04:45.409
Please. Yes, yes, yes. Oh, by the way, eventually

01:04:45.409 --> 01:04:48.949
we might get rid of Zoom because we use Restream,

01:04:48.989 --> 01:04:51.409
so I'm going to do a couple practice things with

01:04:51.409 --> 01:04:56.329
that and see how that platform is better. Yes.

01:05:04.799 --> 01:05:20.619
Beautiful. I know that guy in that video. All

01:05:20.619 --> 01:05:25.980
righty then. It's like you get in there and then.

01:05:36.750 --> 01:06:22.559
Oh, boy. Darn it. Oh my goodness, dude. I'm so,

01:06:22.619 --> 01:06:25.760
I apologize to you and to the audience that that

01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:28.980
stutter step was happening, but go check out

01:06:28.980 --> 01:06:31.960
those videos. He gave you the page to go to.

01:06:32.039 --> 01:06:35.019
I just typed in Mitch Collins in Google and then

01:06:35.019 --> 01:06:37.980
went to the video section and it popped up, but

01:06:37.980 --> 01:06:40.179
he's got a bunch of cool songs like that. And

01:06:40.179 --> 01:06:42.519
Chad, do you agree that that guitar work is not

01:06:42.519 --> 01:06:46.500
shabby and he's got some skills? Yeah, it's pretty

01:06:46.500 --> 01:06:49.539
good, but take it easy with a micro guitar player.

01:06:50.599 --> 01:06:52.780
Yeah. You're doing a great job. Sounds great.

01:06:54.099 --> 01:06:56.519
I'm bummed we couldn't get deeper into the vocals,

01:06:56.699 --> 01:07:00.519
but it is what it is, I guess. Again, we're going

01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:02.119
to have you on again, Mitch, and we'll make sure

01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:04.239
that we have technical difficulties worked out

01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:06.460
and stuff. But, dude, it's been a pleasure talking

01:07:06.460 --> 01:07:10.639
to you. Thank you for everything you add for

01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:12.659
the fans of live and all that stuff. You really

01:07:12.659 --> 01:07:16.079
make that page fun and stuff. out of all the

01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:17.739
guests we've had on and we've had a bunch of

01:07:17.739 --> 01:07:19.980
cool people, everybody's like, yes to Mitch.

01:07:20.019 --> 01:07:22.480
They loved all the fans and friends of live that

01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:24.719
have come on, but you were really, uh, people

01:07:24.719 --> 01:07:26.380
were really taking that you were coming on and

01:07:26.380 --> 01:07:28.340
appreciated that you were going to be here. So

01:07:28.340 --> 01:07:31.500
I want to thank you as well. Wow. Um, thank you

01:07:31.500 --> 01:07:35.239
so much guys. And I, I am definitely looking

01:07:35.239 --> 01:07:39.260
forward to being on again and, uh, to everyone

01:07:39.260 --> 01:07:41.199
out there watching the fans of live people and

01:07:41.199 --> 01:07:44.730
everyone else. I love you all. bring the people

01:07:44.730 --> 01:07:47.670
together yeah buddy and for those that don't

01:07:47.670 --> 01:07:50.329
know peace brother for those who don't know uh

01:07:50.329 --> 01:07:54.349
mitch was going to be our first guest i don't

01:07:54.349 --> 01:07:57.570
remember what happened i think it was on my end

01:07:57.570 --> 01:08:00.170
uh with the equipment didn't we try to get somebody

01:08:00.170 --> 01:08:02.650
on like the first show and it wouldn't oh yeah

01:08:02.650 --> 01:08:06.829
yeah way back then it feels like years ago way

01:08:06.829 --> 01:08:09.780
back We're still having the same problems. I

01:08:09.780 --> 01:08:12.340
think we need to do, we need to do some practice

01:08:12.340 --> 01:08:14.559
stuff where we just put shit up and see if it

01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:17.159
makes sure it works. Yes. I agree with that.

01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:23.319
Um, it's still playing. Bobby. Well, so I realized,

01:08:23.439 --> 01:08:26.560
um, kind of what happens here, but it shouldn't

01:08:26.560 --> 01:08:30.300
for, so, um, I think cause when you have a, uh,

01:08:30.380 --> 01:08:33.300
internet provider, you get download speeds and

01:08:33.300 --> 01:08:36.029
upload speeds. My download speeds are like a

01:08:36.029 --> 01:08:37.970
thousand, you know, a gigabyte per second. So

01:08:37.970 --> 01:08:40.649
a thousand megabytes per second. I'm not exactly

01:08:40.649 --> 01:08:43.770
sure what the upload speed was. That's why I

01:08:43.770 --> 01:08:46.949
stopped sharing it and was letting it go to Bobby

01:08:46.949 --> 01:08:49.130
because there's a little bit of buffer that comes

01:08:49.130 --> 01:08:52.090
in supposedly that makes it easier. But I think

01:08:52.090 --> 01:08:54.449
he had a bad internet connection. So I'll try

01:08:54.449 --> 01:08:57.210
a practice one sometime during the week and see

01:08:57.210 --> 01:08:59.470
if I could share. But that's where I was getting

01:08:59.470 --> 01:09:04.850
to with the restream. We technically can get

01:09:04.850 --> 01:09:06.869
rid of zoom and just go straight from there.

01:09:07.170 --> 01:09:09.350
And there's cool stuff we could do too. Like

01:09:09.350 --> 01:09:11.489
we could have overlays where it scrolls like

01:09:11.489 --> 01:09:13.430
a new show at the bottom. The gracious two is

01:09:13.430 --> 01:09:18.310
live. The only reason I haven't made that jump

01:09:18.310 --> 01:09:24.710
is because I use a zoom AI program to like watch

01:09:24.710 --> 01:09:27.350
our full episode and then give me a synopsis

01:09:27.350 --> 01:09:30.010
of it. Because if you notice the video. Yeah.

01:09:30.069 --> 01:09:31.869
If you notice the videos that we posted, description

01:09:31.869 --> 01:09:34.390
is pretty in depth, like eight paragraphs and

01:09:34.390 --> 01:09:37.449
it kind of goes through the whole show. Um, so

01:09:37.449 --> 01:09:39.130
that's the only reason why I didn't do that.

01:09:39.170 --> 01:09:41.109
Cause if you look at my podcast before this,

01:09:41.149 --> 01:09:44.430
my descriptions were like three sentences. It's

01:09:44.430 --> 01:09:46.890
like, don't spoke to this person because it's

01:09:46.890 --> 01:09:48.529
like, you know, I don't want to sit there and

01:09:48.529 --> 01:09:53.369
fucking write. Um, and then I blackout during

01:09:53.369 --> 01:09:59.619
the show and then we did anyway. So yeah. Go

01:09:59.619 --> 01:10:03.180
check out Chad Gracie's drum videos and his YouTube

01:10:03.180 --> 01:10:04.640
channel on there because there's a bunch of cool

01:10:04.640 --> 01:10:09.520
stuff out there. YouTube Chad Gracie live. Boom.

01:10:09.659 --> 01:10:14.279
And then check out I just went and followed Collins

01:10:14.279 --> 01:10:18.899
and Strong on YouTube as well. Sweet. I'm going

01:10:18.899 --> 01:10:27.710
to do that too. Bobby's leaving in a boat. That

01:10:27.710 --> 01:10:30.250
sounded like a vibrator to me. I'm not leaving

01:10:30.250 --> 01:10:33.750
in a boat. What was it, Bobby? I'm not leaving

01:10:33.750 --> 01:10:38.829
in a boat. It was your vibrator. We got it. Yes.

01:10:38.989 --> 01:10:42.409
Great. You're not supposed to start your OnlyFans

01:10:42.409 --> 01:10:44.770
channel yet, dude. Do that when you're off of

01:10:44.770 --> 01:10:47.529
here. Right. Oh, we forgot to tell them, Chad.

01:10:47.810 --> 01:10:51.550
Our OnlyFans is OnlyFans .com. No, I'm just kidding.

01:10:51.689 --> 01:10:54.569
That's right. The gracious poo. We're doing poop

01:10:54.569 --> 01:10:59.279
videos. Oh, God. I want to thank you guys for

01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:00.979
checking us out. I want to thank you guys for

01:11:00.979 --> 01:11:03.479
watching. I want to thank you guys for exploring

01:11:03.479 --> 01:11:06.359
our videos, reels. Please like, share, and follow.

01:11:06.979 --> 01:11:11.260
And anything you want to say, Mr. Gracie? Echo

01:11:11.260 --> 01:11:12.960
what you just said, yes. Please like, share,

01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:16.659
follow us here and my drum videos. That'd be

01:11:16.659 --> 01:11:20.560
great on YouTube, Chad Gracie Live, and The Gracious

01:11:20.560 --> 01:11:23.380
2. Let's keep pumping it up. We're going to do

01:11:23.380 --> 01:11:24.840
it. All right, I'm going to stop this, gentlemen.

01:11:24.899 --> 01:11:31.300
Don't say... Bad things about Bobby yet? Bobby,

01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:35.319
you know we love you. And then here ended, I

01:11:35.319 --> 01:11:35.640
believe.