The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 028 - Creatio

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preparing got it got it setting up we are live

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ladies and gentlemen boys and girls episode 28

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There we are. Number 28. The count's going up.

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The count is going up. Thank God they're not

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going down. For those who weren't aware, we did

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our shorter Instagram live yesterday that we

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had fun with. We had a cool guest come on, Mr.

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Bill Hynes, that came in, but he came on through

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video. Anybody could just throw that request

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out there. If we see it, we could pull it up.

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You guys could come on the broadcast. Um, that,

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you know, in addition to, to kind of be just

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an interaction with you, with the audience, because

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unfortunately when we do this show, I can't check

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your comments as they're coming in live because

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it'll completely distract me. And then I'll just

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lose my train of thought and I'll probably be

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sitting here silent because I can't get it back.

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But, uh, So, yeah, that's a fun show for anybody

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who wants to join. We're going to do it a couple

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times a month and kind of just maybe the day

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before let you know what time and stuff. We're

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not going to make it as regimented as this show.

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Improv. Improv, exactly. So a lot of crazy, crazy

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stuff. So I read this article, Chad. Again, we

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don't talk about what we're going to bring up

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on the show before because we like to get. each

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other's normal, uh, or honest reactions to it.

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But, um, there was in Alabama, some lady called

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the police to her, to her house because her neighbors

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were being like ultra loud and stuff like that.

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And then when the police came, uh, you know,

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they shut the music off and stuff and the, and,

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uh, the police didn't hear it had to come back

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because, uh, she then put her car alarm on and

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then the other neighbors called the cops. Cops

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came back to her house. and asked her for her

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ID and she wouldn't give it to him and they arrested

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her so now that police officer that did that

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is like under discipline so I hear this story

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and I'm like I don't know how I feel about that

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like I don't want you know just police to be

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able to come up to you ask you for ID out of

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nowhere for nothing but then I'm like what's

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why not like if they want to see your ID they're

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maybe checking to see if you're an American citizen

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and have rights to be here Uh, well, they're

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not supposed to do that. Yeah. But allow them

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to do that, which is fucking retarded, but go

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ahead. Yeah. Well, so I'm just, so like part

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of me was like, I don't want the police officer

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to be disciplined over this, you know, for just,

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and then, but part of me is like, should an American

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citizen have to just show their ID for no reason?

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And that's the part where I'm like, no, but we

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don't have just American citizens in our country

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anymore. We have a legal streaming over left

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and right. So I was like, I have no problem giving

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my ID to an officer if he asked for it. I'm not

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doing anything shady, you know, as long as he's

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not trying to incriminate me for something I

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didn't do. So it's like, I don't see what the

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problem is by showing a police officer your ID.

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Yeah. I'm torn on that either, both in both directions.

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Like I would, if a cop asked me for my ID, I'm

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just going to show it. Here you go. Whatever.

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But also it's like, should you, I mean, you don't

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have to do that. Right. Right. But it will escalate

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the situation if you don't. Yeah. You sort of

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do. Exactly. Because you don't want to just be

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walking down the street trying to go somewhere

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and then cops are just constantly asking for

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your ID and like that. But if there's a situation

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going on and they're just trying to see who's

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there and get an ID, it's like, I have no problem

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pulling out. Here I am. Yeah, absolutely. So

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what happened with this lady here? So the cop's

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getting disciplined because he asked her for

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ID? Yeah, because supposedly in the state of

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Alabama, again, it's state laws. I don't think

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federal. A cop's allowed to ask ID if a crime's

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going on, but not just out of out of nowhere.

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So he kind of arrested her, I guess, falsely.

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Well, so he arrested her, too. Oh, OK. OK, well,

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yeah. OK, then I'm not I'm not for that. I'm

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not for him doing that. So. You're kind of putting

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the officer between a rock and a hard place,

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right? Because he's asking for ID and you're

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not following his question and cooperating with

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him. So I could kind of see where he thinks he's

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justified for something like that. But yeah,

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arresting is a little bit far, but then you go

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to court and you plead your case. Also, is there

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a video of this situation? I mean, how did she

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act? What was her? Right. It always comes down

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to that, too, because, you know, you can refuse

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ID and then fucking lose your mind and, you know,

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call the cops names and go the fuck off. Exactly.

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And then you got a problem. One hundred. Anyway,

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it's it's that's a weird it's definitely a weird

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case, but. Yeah. Just something for us to think

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about, for the audience to think about, like,

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you know, how we feel on that situation. Here's

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a better situation, not better. You got the DA

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in New York, Letitia James, gives a speech in

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front of the fire department for some organization,

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and the firemen boo her. Okay, that's their First

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Amendment right. She is, and she is arguably

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a piece of shit, but okay, we don't have to go

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there. But now she is going after them. She's

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taking retribution against them. She's having

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the police department arrest, fine and arrest

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these guys. For booing her. Do we live in a dictatorship?

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In Nazi Germany? What the fuck is this bitch's

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problem? Yeah. She has completely gone against

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her duty to be a fair DA in the Trump case. Right.

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That's out the fucking window. And now she's

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going after New York's finest for booing her.

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Well put. Who are these fucking people? And why

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are they always on the left? Hmm. Hmm. Why is

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that? Right. It's just unbelievable. And people

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put up with this fucking shit. It's like, yeah,

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whatever. Let her do that. Well, Chad, this is

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what we were saying. If you allow this to happen

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to President Trump, you are then allowing it

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to happen to yourselves. To anyone, exactly.

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Yes. And if you're allowing her to go after firemen

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for booing her, who's next? Exactly. The average

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citizen boos her in the street, and now she's...

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Got a lynch mob out for him? I mean, what the

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fuck is happening? Yeah. It's just nuts. These

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people continually overstep their fucking authority,

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and no one seems to care because they have a

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D beside their name. Right. And that will someday

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be turned on you. Right. No matter what fucking

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stupid fucking letter you have beside your name,

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and you're voting. Exactly. And that's the whole

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point. They don't care because it's not happening

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to them and it's happening to somebody they technically

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don't like or agree with. But once that comes

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into place, then they could switch it around

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and use it for fucking whoever. Right. Yeah.

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Chris, I just want to let the audience know this.

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Z -Man, Chris Zelenka, this Friday has a very,

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very special announcement. I cannot divulge it.

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Oh, boy. Yeah, it's fucking really, really cool.

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So I just want people to be. prepared for that

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and to check out his social medias on that because

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it's a real it is let's just start eating sugar

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again god damn it you better not we know what

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sugar does i don't know what's going on that's

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awesome good yeah it is yeah it's exciting dude

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um i'll tell you after the show for sure um so

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today we have a cool guest coming on man uh his

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name is creatio a musician a fellow musician

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I got to check out his music briefly before he

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comes on. We're going to play some while he's

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on as well. It's like an Alice in Chains vibe

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to it. It seems to be like he's a solo acoustic

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musician. I think it might be Christian music,

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but it's not like... Pardon my French. It's not

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gay Christian music where you're like, oh, praise

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the Lord and hallelujah. It's cool Christian

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music or spiritual music. Okay. It's not gay

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Christian music. Yeah, exactly. You know what

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I'm talking about. That's funny. The Flintstones

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said it best, have a gay old happy time or whatever

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the thing was. Have a gay old time. Yes. Gay

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used to mean happy. I guess it still does, but

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yeah. Yeah, they seem happy. You know? Right.

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Until they transition and want you to call them

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different genders. Hey! Different pronouns. Because

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people are misgendering them. You dead named

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me. These people have nothing to worry about.

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Right. Crazy. In all honesty, if somebody was

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referring to me as a she, it wouldn't personally

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bother me. I'd be like, whatever that's you know

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it is what it is you want to call me a she call

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me a she i know what i am you know what i'm saying

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it's not gonna might be like you need to call

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me a he you know whatever people want to fucking

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say they're just words ladies and gentlemen they

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mean technically nothing you know um the pen

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my mom is my mom's texting me saying there's

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a gay woman watching we're not saying anything

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bad about gays no just for the record yes sorry

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Yeah. I have plenty of gay friends. You know,

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I know gay people. I mean, they're they're cool

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individuals. So if anybody misinterpreted that,

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that's not what I'm saying. I think everybody

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should be free, be able to do whatever they want

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to do. You know, just absolutely. You could love

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who you want to love. Yes. Yes. Love is a beautiful

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thing. And nobody should hate two people for

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being in love. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely.

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whether it's two girls, two guys, guy and a girl,

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it's all a beautiful thing. And I think that's

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just me personally growing up and stuff. I'm

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starting to just look at the positive side of

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things rather than the negative because I feel

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like if you could do that, you could put those

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vibes out in the universe and start attracting

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that to other people as well. people who are

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sitting behind their computers all day and talking

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negative and stuff like that, you're putting

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that shit out in the universe. And, you know,

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you're just also fucking with yourself, you know?

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So it's like, Oh, what you put up, what you put

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out comes back to you. Right? Like, it's easy

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to say like, Oh, you shouldn't get angry over

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something like that because you know, because

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you shouldn't. But in all reality, when you allow

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yourself to get angry over something, you're

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internal. gets all fucked up. You know what I'm

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saying? So it actually affects you more than

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possibly the people around you. So I'm trying

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to become Zen in my older life. And this is what

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happens as you mature. Yeah. Yeah. You get more

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Zen for sure. Or some people don't, but some

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people get more pissed off, but we know a couple

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of those are negative motherfuckers. Yes. Yes.

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We're gracious. The gracious two is all about

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positivity and bring in, uh, light back into

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the world and removing the darkness and stuff.

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We're all inclusive. So if you want to come to

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America, come, come the proper way. Don't stream

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across our border. Come legally. Yes. Yes. Why

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is it so hard? Right. And Chad, maybe that's

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something that Trump should be looking into once

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he gets reelected in November is ways for people

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to get here. you know, from asylum countries

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and stuff like that and have more visas and stuff

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this way, they don't feel that they need to try

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and get here illegally and stuff like that. Like

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it's, it's probably a good, a good thing to do.

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Yeah. Yeah. I guess revamp the visa system and

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all that good then the immigration system, legal

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immigration system for sure needs looked at.

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But I mean, I think his first order is deporting

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8 million people. Yes. yes as it should be as

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you know it'd be get some fucking some uh a little

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bit of uh levity back into this fucking world

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yeah man yeah because it's it's like we've just

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kind of lost sight like i'm guessing back in

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the day when when america was first established

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um and we were just asking people to come over

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and kind of expand and have us move westward

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They came over and got documented at Ellis Island

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and stuff, so you knew who was here. They probably

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allowed everybody to come in regardless, but

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they still documented them. I think unless you

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were diseased, you could come in, but you came

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in illegally. You came in through Ellis Island

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or Port of Entry, and you were documented, and

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there you go. That's how it should be. 100%.

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100%. They're selling maps and stuff and online

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how -tos on how to get through Mexico and what

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ports of entry to go to. You can't have that

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shit, people. I've seen stuff where the UN is

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funding different camps and shit along the way,

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all the way from South America through the Darien

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Gap all the way up into Mexico. There's little

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UN camps giving out fucking food and water and

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money. Helping them along. Like, why is the U

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.N. doing that? Right. Right. Why would the U

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.N. be facilitating illegal immigration in the

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United States? Great point. And like the greatest

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president said, a lot of these nations in the

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U .N. aren't putting out their money and paying

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for those dues to be in the U .N. Oh, yeah, that's

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been rampant forever. He definitely put them

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on notice in his first four years. Right. Well,

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our guest is here, so I'm going to let Mr. Creatio

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in. I don't know if you call him Mr. Creatio,

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but what a cool name. Yes, Mr. Mr. It's a cool

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name. Dude, the guy's got a nice light set up.

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I got to see if he's doing this all on his own.

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He's got cool graphic art that goes with it.

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There he is. Howdy, sir. Creatio, what's going

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on, man? Pleasure to have you on, dude. Can you

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hear me? I can't hear you. Okay. Take your time.

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We do hear you. If you go down to the bottom

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where it says and click that up button, maybe.

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I can hear you now. Yeah. What's up, Adi? How

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are you? Problem in chair, not in computer. I'm

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doing all right. How are you? Good, good. Thanks

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for coming on, man. Appreciate it. Thank you

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for having me. I just want to correct you real

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quick. I'm definitely not Christian music. Okay.

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We've got a song called Rock and Roll Jesus.

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There's a whole story behind that. We got called

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Christian music too early in our career because

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we had Jesus in one of our songs. It was a Christian

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band. Yeah, basically. That's how it goes. What

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a man was 2 ,000 years ago means nothing at all

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to me today. Well said, Eddie K. Well, creation.

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So I want to give you a couple of my thoughts

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when I heard your music, dude, because I first

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song I heard was rock and roll Jesus. And then

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I listened to a bunch of others. I'm a fan now

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for sure. Yeah, you're absolutely welcome. Your

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music sounds a lot like influenced by Alice in

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Chains. Is there any bit of that in there? I

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mean, yeah, I was heavily, you know, influenced

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by, like, the grunge era growing up. You know,

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I was born in 89. I know that's pretty young

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still. But, you know, the 90s had a big influence

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on me. I was really into, like, alternative music

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and grunge and all that good stuff. So it definitely

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carries through in what I do. You know, I really

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get into, like, singer -songwriter Americana

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stuff now. So some of my newer stuff has more

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of an Americana. mixed with alternative kind

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of fill. Um, but yeah, we'll, we'll get to that.

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I'm actually, uh, I got some new stuff coming

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out before too long. Um, that's one thing I wanted

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to mention while I was here for sure. Absolutely.

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If you want to now go ahead or if you, or if

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you want to, it's up to you. Go ahead, man. Now

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and later. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Uh, so. in may on

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may 25th uh i've gotten everything together for

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the release we're doing press releases today

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uh we're doing all the all the things and all

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the stuff that come with releasing a new song

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um i got a song coming out called evergreen it's

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uh kind of like a like an outlaw track someone's

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got like an outlaw country feel yeah and um we're

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doing a music video on the 30th we're shooting

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that and then um i'm doing a full band like release

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party in winston -salem north carolina that's

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going to be pretty cool usually i'm by myself

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so it's going to be really cool to like orchestrate

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the full production that i you know envision

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and when i play a lot of these newer songs that

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i do in the studio it's full production it's

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mostly it's just me playing but uh on this particular

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track i was um lucky enough to have some really

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good session musicians at my disposal and um

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and I was able to articulate my ideas and they

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were able to lay them down in a way that, that

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really compliments the music. So. Is, is that

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very cool? Very, very cool is, is for sure. Is

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that the direction you're looking to go to? Cause

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it seems like most of your songs are solo acoustic

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singer songwriter is, are you looking to go?

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So full as fuck, dude, you know what I'm saying?

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Yeah. So I'll give you a little preface. I guess

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I'd need a brief preface. This is a little bit.

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So when I started creatio, It was a full band,

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and that was in 2017. And then we were on tour

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from New York to Florida. It was our first tour,

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and Hurricane Irma was coming up the coast of

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Florida as we were coming down, and we ended

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up trying to exit to get gas, and our brakes

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fell in our truck. Oh, shit. We wrecked, and

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a lot of us got hurt and stuff like that. It

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was fucking horrible. Wow. Wow. What? Um, you

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know, I've been kind of on my own ever since,

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you know, I understand, you know, uh, you know,

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things happen and, you know, shit happens and

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life goes on. And, um, I, you know, I've always

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been a musician and, um, I had started this,

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you know, by myself and, you know, I guess I

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can carry on by myself. Um, not, not necessarily

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that, like, I don't want the other or a full

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band I would love to have. people that want to

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go on the road but that finding people that want

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to live in a van is really hard so you said something

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good and chad could probably touch on this a

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little bit more um you know you got to find the

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people that had that same passion and drive that

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you have otherwise they could potentially hold

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you back chad knows this better than than any

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of us uh you know with him being one of the founding

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members of the band live They had to be those

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four guys in the van going to the gigs, traveling

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back and forth. And luckily, you know, they grew

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up together, had that same vision. So it probably

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made that process a little bit easier on them

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as opposed to, you know, trying to search for

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those people and see that your visions align.

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Yeah, no, I've definitely had that problem in

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the past as far as, so I used to do metal before

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I got into doing this. we toured i got you know

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the touring experience doing that the first time

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and that was a lot like being a road pirate there

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was really no i mean i was young in my 20s and

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and there was a lot of you know i mean nothing

00:21:00.339 --> 00:21:03.339
was organized and it was just like a dumpster

00:21:03.339 --> 00:21:05.180
fire traveling down the highway from town to

00:21:05.180 --> 00:21:07.799
town drinking as much as we could i mean it was

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you know we were young you know so and but you

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know life you live you learn life comes ups and

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downs and failures and it's all about how you

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kind of you know learn from your experiences

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and and refine you know absolutely yep yeah you

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gotta learn from those bad times and not repeat

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them no yeah no i mean i've always you know i've

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always kind of looked at music as a as a career

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uh you know i i've tried working other jobs it's

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just not not working out for me. You know, I

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really love entertaining people. I like the connection

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that comes with it. I like, you know, if I'm

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up there doing my job right, then you're forgetting

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about your mortgage or your stress or your whatever

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it is that's stressing you out for 10 seconds.

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And that to me is the beautiful part about performing

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and playing and being a musician. Yeah. I mean.

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Absolutely. music more so probably than any form

00:22:05.089 --> 00:22:08.210
of entertainment can just take you out of the

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shitty world you're in and let you get lost into

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this you know beautiful art that's being you

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know heard through your ears yeah no absolutely

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uh also though like it also helps us i think

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feel that like other people might understand

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what it's like to be in their shoes it makes

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you feel not like you know like somebody understands

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or, or, you know, for me growing up, that's what

00:22:32.190 --> 00:22:34.369
it was for me. You know, like I would listen

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to music or find solace in songs that were like,

00:22:36.809 --> 00:22:40.029
you know, that, that I, you know, I resonated

00:22:40.029 --> 00:22:42.970
with somehow. And, and like for a second, I felt

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like I wasn't the only person in the world that

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had all this, whatever inside of me, you know,

00:22:47.730 --> 00:22:51.190
at the time. Right. Well, yeah, the connections

00:22:51.190 --> 00:22:53.410
you could get through music. And like you said,

00:22:53.430 --> 00:22:56.089
make you feel like, Oh, I guess I'm not the only

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person that felt this is, is a, Fucking beautiful

00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:02.980
thing, man. There's plenty of times where I've

00:23:02.980 --> 00:23:06.480
said, you know, thank God for this band or that

00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:09.500
band because they got me through so much shit.

00:23:09.519 --> 00:23:11.039
You know what I'm saying? It made me realize

00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:13.559
like, hey, I don't only have these feelings.

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Other people have these questions, these feelings,

00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:19.259
things like that. So, yeah, music can bring people

00:23:19.259 --> 00:23:21.400
together and unite, make you forget about the

00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:24.460
shittiness in the world. And then hopefully you

00:23:24.460 --> 00:23:27.400
take that and bring it into your life and, you

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know. spread good yeah yeah i've often i've often

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said that about what you know what we do as musicians

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that we make people happy that's your job basically

00:23:37.109 --> 00:23:39.509
making people happy getting up there performing

00:23:39.509 --> 00:23:42.329
yeah well you know i learned a while back you

00:23:42.329 --> 00:23:44.849
got to take yourself out of it somehow and give

00:23:44.849 --> 00:23:47.269
everything you got to whatever your audience

00:23:47.269 --> 00:23:52.230
is to really kind of resonate i think I think

00:23:52.230 --> 00:23:54.069
a lot of times there's songwriters or singer,

00:23:54.190 --> 00:23:56.230
you know, just musicians out there. They caught

00:23:56.230 --> 00:23:58.390
up on the ego game or caught up on the flash

00:23:58.390 --> 00:24:02.230
or like, it's like, you know, Oh, there's a lot

00:24:02.230 --> 00:24:04.210
of those. Yeah. There's a lot of that. It's just,

00:24:04.250 --> 00:24:07.009
it's just the ego thing, man. And I never ego

00:24:07.009 --> 00:24:09.150
guy. I've always been like the, okay, let's,

00:24:09.150 --> 00:24:10.950
let's say something that's going to resonate

00:24:10.950 --> 00:24:13.529
with people. Something that matters, something

00:24:13.529 --> 00:24:17.819
of substance, you know? Chad, when you're performing,

00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:21.079
you almost get like an alter ego on stage because,

00:24:21.160 --> 00:24:24.160
you know, if you see Chad, like he's normally

00:24:24.160 --> 00:24:27.160
like a very kind of chill dude and stuff like

00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:30.059
that. But when you see him behind that kit rocking,

00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:32.319
you're like, holy shit, this guy's an animal.

00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:35.880
Is that another side of you, Chad, that you bring

00:24:35.880 --> 00:24:38.299
out during your performances? Or how does that

00:24:38.299 --> 00:24:42.539
work? Like how do you turn that on? I don't know

00:24:42.539 --> 00:24:44.759
how I turn it on, but it just like, I sit down

00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:46.859
at the drums and it's go time. And I'm just like,

00:24:46.900 --> 00:24:50.180
I don't know. It's just, that's part of like,

00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:52.920
I think what he was saying or what creation was

00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:55.460
saying earlier is like, uh, creation. Oh, sorry.

00:24:55.700 --> 00:24:58.119
Uh, it's like, you just kind of like, you forget

00:24:58.119 --> 00:25:00.059
that you're on stage and you just fucking are

00:25:00.059 --> 00:25:03.799
totally immersed in it. And that's what comes

00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:06.259
out of me when I, when I, you know, do that.

00:25:07.170 --> 00:25:09.990
I still kind of do that now, but more so when

00:25:09.990 --> 00:25:13.069
I was doing metal, like my wife tells me all

00:25:13.069 --> 00:25:15.069
the time, like we met, I met my wife back when

00:25:15.069 --> 00:25:17.809
I was doing the metal thing. And when we met,

00:25:17.829 --> 00:25:20.869
she was very much like, you're not the same person

00:25:20.869 --> 00:25:23.569
up there as you are in real life. And you know

00:25:23.569 --> 00:25:25.390
what I mean? She tells me all the time. She goes,

00:25:25.470 --> 00:25:28.190
she goes, you're really, really fucking good

00:25:28.190 --> 00:25:32.480
at what you do. And I hate that guy. I didn't

00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:36.720
marry that guy. Right. You know, you kind of

00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:38.279
learn how to turn it on and off. You can't be

00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:42.460
that all the time, you know. Well, you got to

00:25:42.460 --> 00:25:46.940
own it, man. You got to own it. Yeah. The earrings

00:25:46.940 --> 00:25:49.380
creation, was that something you started to do

00:25:49.380 --> 00:25:52.619
during the metal days? And did the stretching

00:25:52.619 --> 00:25:55.039
hurt? I never got to ask this question to people

00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:57.440
with the, you know, the stretched ears like that.

00:25:57.880 --> 00:26:01.859
Uh, so, so I'm, I'm excited to hear this. Yeah.

00:26:03.380 --> 00:26:06.759
So I started that when I was in like eighth grade.

00:26:06.940 --> 00:26:10.660
Uh, you know, it was like year 2000. Everybody

00:26:10.660 --> 00:26:14.039
was super angry. I just wanted to, I don't know,

00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:17.059
man. Uh, I, I thought it looked cool. I still

00:26:17.059 --> 00:26:19.559
think it looks cool. You know, I don't, I don't

00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:23.119
know. Uh, it was kind of a, uh, my friends were

00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:25.809
doing it and I did it. And then like, Thank God.

00:26:25.829 --> 00:26:28.630
Like, I like it because like, that's a terrible

00:26:28.630 --> 00:26:33.910
reason to do something, but, but like, it works

00:26:33.910 --> 00:26:36.150
out. Like, I'm not mad at it. Like there there's

00:26:36.150 --> 00:26:39.750
like, you know, drawbacks to it, but there's

00:26:39.750 --> 00:26:42.529
also, it's not really, it's, it's just cosmetic,

00:26:42.769 --> 00:26:45.809
man. It's not, I had both my ears pierced and

00:26:45.809 --> 00:26:47.569
I don't know. I wanted to stretch them. I thought

00:26:47.569 --> 00:26:49.809
it looked cool. It does look cool, dude. Don't

00:26:49.809 --> 00:26:51.450
let anybody tell you different. And if they do.

00:26:52.089 --> 00:26:55.049
Fuck them. That's their opinion. Yeah, basically.

00:26:55.910 --> 00:27:00.630
So where in the world are you? So I live in North

00:27:00.630 --> 00:27:04.450
Carolina, but as far as the touring stuff goes,

00:27:04.509 --> 00:27:08.150
I go anywhere that will book me that makes sense.

00:27:08.309 --> 00:27:12.150
If it's in Nevada, then okay, how are we getting

00:27:12.150 --> 00:27:15.450
to Nevada? You know what I mean? That's the attitude

00:27:15.450 --> 00:27:18.829
that I have toward touring. But North Carolina

00:27:18.829 --> 00:27:22.750
is home. I'm also a full time student currently.

00:27:22.789 --> 00:27:26.609
I'm almost done with this school. And then I

00:27:26.609 --> 00:27:30.910
go to hopefully Berkeley next. There's goals.

00:27:31.170 --> 00:27:35.930
So nice is in school. Are you doing like music

00:27:35.930 --> 00:27:40.509
classes or are you doing? Yeah. So when the whole

00:27:40.509 --> 00:27:44.609
covid bullshit happened, I was like, OK, what

00:27:44.609 --> 00:27:46.450
am I going to do? Because like I'm out of a job

00:27:46.450 --> 00:27:48.920
because my whole job was like. living in a van

00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:51.920
on the road you know as much as I could throughout

00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:55.359
the year and like literally like I think I was

00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:58.400
like in the middle of my booking season and then

00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:00.940
just like that I was homeworking show calls for

00:28:00.940 --> 00:28:04.740
the IOTC and just like I we went to lunch and

00:28:04.740 --> 00:28:08.380
when we come back like I got emails like my inbox

00:28:08.380 --> 00:28:11.480
flooded and all my IOTC jobs dried up and all

00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:16.339
my my tour jobs dried up so I was just like oh

00:28:16.339 --> 00:28:19.140
shit you know what am i gonna do so naturally

00:28:19.140 --> 00:28:21.740
you know i took my ass to the unemployment office

00:28:21.740 --> 00:28:24.700
like everybody else and then i was like well

00:28:24.700 --> 00:28:26.700
that's not gonna be enough because like i need

00:28:26.700 --> 00:28:29.519
whatever right now like i gotta figure this out

00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.819
right so you know i you know i'm a single dad

00:28:32.819 --> 00:28:36.779
technically on paper so um yeah i took my ass

00:28:36.779 --> 00:28:40.160
back to school for free on a federal grant so

00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:44.410
um And I'm currently majoring in four majors

00:28:44.410 --> 00:28:46.809
at once. So like, don't, don't ever do that.

00:28:46.829 --> 00:28:53.170
It's twice. So my majors are commercial music.

00:28:56.890 --> 00:29:00.349
Sorry. Commercial music, audio engineering and

00:29:00.349 --> 00:29:02.690
recording live sound and concert lighting and

00:29:02.690 --> 00:29:07.410
music business. Perfect. Wow. Okay. Cause I was

00:29:07.410 --> 00:29:09.470
going to say. As you're telling me about the

00:29:09.470 --> 00:29:11.450
school, I'm like, I hope he's not trying to get

00:29:11.450 --> 00:29:13.650
a safety net and like taking English courses

00:29:13.650 --> 00:29:17.210
just in case music is not the final destination.

00:29:17.410 --> 00:29:21.009
Because from what I hear, safety nets are not,

00:29:21.109 --> 00:29:23.190
when you're reaching for your goal, you can't

00:29:23.190 --> 00:29:25.789
have that safety net because if it's there, you'll

00:29:25.789 --> 00:29:29.869
fall and forget where you're going. I had this

00:29:29.869 --> 00:29:33.789
epiphany, like I was working at Dollar General

00:29:33.789 --> 00:29:37.539
in the morning times. and or no in the evening

00:29:37.539 --> 00:29:39.579
times and doing hardwood floors in the morning

00:29:39.579 --> 00:29:43.859
times and wow i was i was and playing every weekend

00:29:43.859 --> 00:29:47.059
as far away as i could as far as like you know

00:29:47.059 --> 00:29:50.279
booking shows and uh i was just running myself

00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:52.519
completely ragged i remember like i was sitting

00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:55.400
there at the cash register you know you know

00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:58.119
one night and i was just like this this sucks

00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:01.660
like Like I'm not, I'm not a fucking cashier.

00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:03.759
I'm not a damn construction worker. I mean, I'm

00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:05.279
good at construction. I'm good at working with

00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:07.839
my hands. I can count money, whatever, you know

00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:09.819
what I mean? I've had all kinds of jobs, but

00:30:09.819 --> 00:30:12.079
like that, that ain't me. And I just kind of

00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:13.839
like, I had this thing and it was just like,

00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:15.720
fuck this. I'm not, I'm not doing this anymore.

00:30:16.180 --> 00:30:20.039
And I, I quit. I quit. I quit the next day. I

00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:22.299
quit hardwood flooring. I quit dollar general.

00:30:22.339 --> 00:30:25.019
And I just leaped out and onto the road, basically.

00:30:25.339 --> 00:30:28.299
Good man. Toured up and down the U .S. coast

00:30:28.299 --> 00:30:32.140
in a pickup truck with all my gear next to me.

00:30:32.180 --> 00:30:33.759
I would sleep at truck stops with all my gear

00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:36.200
next to me. And then I graduated. I bought into

00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:40.700
a shitty 1990 cargo, not cargo van, but like

00:30:40.700 --> 00:30:43.019
what your grandparents would drive with the bucket

00:30:43.019 --> 00:30:45.900
seats or whatever. The captain's chairs. Oh,

00:30:45.900 --> 00:30:48.819
yeah. Had like the Nintendo slot in the top.

00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:50.519
You know what I'm saying? Right. And the little

00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:54.180
13 -inch TV. Yeah, yeah. And then, yeah, so.

00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:56.099
Conversion van, I think. Conversion van. and

00:30:56.099 --> 00:30:58.420
then yeah and then uh that thing finally died

00:30:58.420 --> 00:31:02.839
on the west virginia turnpike on me and uh now

00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:05.819
i'm touring in a transit van and a trailer so

00:31:05.819 --> 00:31:10.059
i'm i you know moves slowly but surely like it's

00:31:10.059 --> 00:31:13.220
easy to like look back and see where i was like

00:31:13.220 --> 00:31:16.420
and where i'm at in comparison because like 10

00:31:16.420 --> 00:31:18.859
years ago if i if you had asked me like i'd be

00:31:18.859 --> 00:31:21.460
doing what i'm doing i'd be like i i hope but

00:31:21.460 --> 00:31:24.859
i don't know you know what i mean like so But

00:31:24.859 --> 00:31:27.140
now the path is right there and you see the,

00:31:27.180 --> 00:31:29.900
where you're going, which is good. Yeah. So,

00:31:29.980 --> 00:31:31.720
you know, I mean, everybody gets discouraged.

00:31:31.859 --> 00:31:33.900
I think, you know, like, especially like, I mean,

00:31:33.940 --> 00:31:35.960
musicians, I mean, like, think about it, man.

00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:37.720
Like everybody, like that's, that's the one,

00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:40.299
like, if you were to go, if you were a 10 year

00:31:40.299 --> 00:31:42.839
old dude and you're, you know, you tell your

00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:44.059
parents what you want to be when you grow up

00:31:44.059 --> 00:31:45.980
and you say, I want to be a rock star. They're

00:31:45.980 --> 00:31:48.400
going to be like, no, don't do that. Don't do

00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:50.299
that. It's not realistic. It's not this. I mean,

00:31:50.339 --> 00:31:51.660
I don't want to be a rock star. I just want to

00:31:51.660 --> 00:31:53.660
be a musician. I want to be a working touring.

00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:57.640
uh musicians and mix engineer those are those

00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:00.319
are the things i want to do and right i think

00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:03.779
it's silly for someone to tell somebody that

00:32:03.779 --> 00:32:05.880
they couldn't follow their dreams or do whatever

00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:09.599
the hell they want to money is just an an afterthought

00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:12.420
you know what i'm saying like right you want

00:32:12.420 --> 00:32:14.940
to have the money to do it but like you know

00:32:14.940 --> 00:32:17.140
what i'm saying like that's not why you do it

00:32:17.140 --> 00:32:20.180
you know You want to make a living doing what

00:32:20.180 --> 00:32:24.359
you love, and the fame and fortune that comes

00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:26.599
with it, that could be a bonus, but that's not

00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:28.539
what you're in it for. You're in it because you're

00:32:28.539 --> 00:32:31.660
doing something you love, and you make a decent

00:32:31.660 --> 00:32:35.000
living that way. You're not looking to just become

00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:39.559
a millionaire just with your music. If that happens,

00:32:39.660 --> 00:32:41.380
it happens, but you're in it because you love

00:32:41.380 --> 00:32:44.339
music. I think a much simpler answer is probably,

00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:47.559
I do it to put food on my table for my kids.

00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:52.000
And like everything else comes, you know what

00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.460
I mean? Like I do it for that and I do it for

00:32:55.460 --> 00:32:58.339
my sanity. Like those two things. It's like I

00:32:58.339 --> 00:33:01.200
have to create or I have to help someone else

00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:04.460
create or I have to, you know, and I got to feed

00:33:04.460 --> 00:33:07.359
my kids. And like everything after that is like

00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:09.559
I got to have a job that's not going to drive

00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.500
me absolutely crazy or I'm going to quit every

00:33:12.500 --> 00:33:17.640
two years because some dick boss didn't. treat

00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:19.720
me right or whatever the hell, you know what

00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.799
I mean? You know, I like it much better when

00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:26.460
I'm, you know, my own, you know, good to do my

00:33:26.460 --> 00:33:29.720
own thing. So, right. If, if you're just working

00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:32.440
a job just for the paycheck, I mean, that could

00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:35.420
affect you, you know what I'm saying? And then

00:33:35.420 --> 00:33:37.740
you could bring that to your home life. So when

00:33:37.740 --> 00:33:39.740
you're doing something you love, even if you're

00:33:39.740 --> 00:33:41.960
not getting paid as much as you would in one

00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:44.799
of those nine to five jobs, it still makes you

00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:48.160
more whole as a person. Dude, and I mean, I mean,

00:33:48.220 --> 00:33:51.019
literally, I can't tell you how many people come

00:33:51.019 --> 00:33:53.460
up to me at shows and they'll be like, you know,

00:33:53.460 --> 00:33:55.359
you got an awesome job. Like, that's so cool

00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:57.819
what you do and this and that. And I'll be like,

00:33:57.859 --> 00:33:59.339
well, what do you do? They're like, oh, nothing

00:33:59.339 --> 00:34:02.339
special. You know, it's just a job or like, I

00:34:02.339 --> 00:34:05.140
hate my job. Like not a lot of people go get

00:34:05.140 --> 00:34:07.200
up and take they take their ass to work every

00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:09.019
day and they hate what they do. And they just

00:34:09.019 --> 00:34:11.679
do it because someone told them they had to.

00:34:12.179 --> 00:34:16.250
Right. You know what I mean? And like. No, that's

00:34:16.250 --> 00:34:19.449
not how it is. But like you, you can, it's a

00:34:19.449 --> 00:34:21.730
choice. Like you're trading your time. Like I'm

00:34:21.730 --> 00:34:24.150
trading my time. Like when I'm on the road, I'm

00:34:24.150 --> 00:34:26.090
away from my family. So I'm trading my time for

00:34:26.090 --> 00:34:29.429
money for that to put on my, my family's table.

00:34:29.469 --> 00:34:33.989
But like, if I'm going to clock in at wherever

00:34:33.989 --> 00:34:38.860
factory or construction job or. retail job. It,

00:34:38.980 --> 00:34:41.440
you know, I, you're saying when you punch that

00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:43.980
time clock, I'm okay with giving my time away

00:34:43.980 --> 00:34:46.719
for this much money. It's literally what you're

00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:49.360
saying. Like, and the time is the one commodity

00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:53.019
you can't get back. So I I'm a firm believer

00:34:53.019 --> 00:34:55.519
that like, Hey man, like we only got one life

00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:57.539
and we should like live it the way, the way that

00:34:57.539 --> 00:34:59.860
makes us the happiest because that, that, that

00:34:59.860 --> 00:35:03.239
ultimately is going to get us, you know, you

00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:05.559
know, that Zen place in life that everybody I

00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:09.130
think is kind of looking for. Chad, did you tell

00:35:09.130 --> 00:35:12.610
your parents when you were growing up that you

00:35:12.610 --> 00:35:14.869
wanted to be a musician and that's what you wanted

00:35:14.869 --> 00:35:18.250
to do for a living? Or did you know? And if so,

00:35:18.429 --> 00:35:21.630
did they encourage that or did they discourage

00:35:21.630 --> 00:35:25.429
that? Because he said parents should always encourage.

00:35:25.550 --> 00:35:26.849
So I just want to see kind of how that worked

00:35:26.849 --> 00:35:30.650
out for you. Not while I was growing up. I mean,

00:35:30.710 --> 00:35:32.750
I started playing drums when I was 12. The band

00:35:32.750 --> 00:35:36.369
started when we were 12, 13, whatever. And it

00:35:36.369 --> 00:35:39.110
was just fun at the time. As we got into high

00:35:39.110 --> 00:35:41.329
school and started writing our own stuff in like

00:35:41.329 --> 00:35:44.550
11th, 12th grade, we started contemplating not

00:35:44.550 --> 00:35:47.730
going to college and having to tell our parents

00:35:47.730 --> 00:35:52.449
that. And so that was the biggest shocker to

00:35:52.449 --> 00:35:54.750
them because we were all, all four of us were

00:35:54.750 --> 00:35:56.949
in college prep courses. We were all headed to

00:35:56.949 --> 00:35:59.070
college and they were all proud of that, especially

00:35:59.070 --> 00:36:02.050
my parents because neither of them went to college.

00:36:02.610 --> 00:36:06.030
And I was going to be the first. And so that

00:36:06.030 --> 00:36:09.429
was, that was a big, I wouldn't say they were

00:36:09.429 --> 00:36:10.789
disappointed. Well, they were disappointed. I

00:36:10.789 --> 00:36:13.869
wasn't going to school, but they weren't, they

00:36:13.869 --> 00:36:16.650
weren't trying to tell me not to do the music

00:36:16.650 --> 00:36:18.110
thing. Cause they knew how serious we were at

00:36:18.110 --> 00:36:20.570
that point. Right. The four of us, we were dead

00:36:20.570 --> 00:36:25.510
set on doing it. So, yeah. So, and then my parent,

00:36:25.550 --> 00:36:27.989
it was funny because I learned how to play drums

00:36:27.989 --> 00:36:31.030
on the third floor of our three story townhouse.

00:36:31.190 --> 00:36:33.260
And all they could ever hear was like, the kick

00:36:33.260 --> 00:36:35.340
drum. And they, they couldn't even like, at one

00:36:35.340 --> 00:36:37.480
point my dad says to me, he's like, I couldn't

00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:39.360
even tell that you actually could play drums.

00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:42.980
Like one of the first time we ever saw us play

00:36:42.980 --> 00:36:45.519
out live. And he's like, well, you're actually

00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:47.199
good. We couldn't tell if you could play drums

00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.659
or not. All we could hear was like this muffled

00:36:49.659 --> 00:36:52.179
beating up there. So, but anyway, so yeah, once

00:36:52.179 --> 00:36:55.300
we, we, we graduated from high school, told them

00:36:55.300 --> 00:36:57.639
we were, we all got accepted to universities

00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:00.619
and colleges and we, we deferred for a year.

00:37:01.179 --> 00:37:02.539
We told them, you know, we're going to defer

00:37:02.539 --> 00:37:04.400
for a year, see if we can get a record deal.

00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:06.599
It ended up being a year and a half until we

00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:08.500
got a record deal. But then we did get one. And

00:37:08.500 --> 00:37:11.940
then our first video came out on MTV, which is

00:37:11.940 --> 00:37:14.659
at the time that was huge. Yeah. So then our

00:37:14.659 --> 00:37:17.059
parents were like, okay, well, we can kind of

00:37:17.059 --> 00:37:19.539
see that this is going to, could be something

00:37:19.539 --> 00:37:23.760
for you. So. Yeah. Unfortunately. Yeah. I didn't

00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:26.480
have it that, that easy. Yeah. I was saying that

00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:28.969
it was easy. I shouldn't say that. No, no. It's

00:37:28.969 --> 00:37:30.349
a different circle. I mean, listen, there was

00:37:30.349 --> 00:37:32.650
four of us that were all concentrated on the

00:37:32.650 --> 00:37:35.190
same goal. So when you have a team, it's much,

00:37:35.210 --> 00:37:37.650
it is easier when you have a team of guys like

00:37:37.650 --> 00:37:41.869
at all four. Yeah, absolutely. I unfortunately,

00:37:42.070 --> 00:37:44.750
well, the first, you know, when Creatio started,

00:37:44.909 --> 00:37:46.889
like, I think we were all headed, like we all

00:37:46.889 --> 00:37:49.150
had that goal. And then the wreck happened. And

00:37:49.150 --> 00:37:51.769
it like, I think it just, it fucked everybody

00:37:51.769 --> 00:37:56.119
up. And that, you know, I understand. Sure. uh

00:37:56.119 --> 00:37:58.539
i think with the metal band thing for me like

00:37:58.539 --> 00:38:01.480
i was very much the one like dragging a bunch

00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:04.000
of people up a hill you know what i mean like

00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:06.500
and it was just like all right like i felt like

00:38:06.500 --> 00:38:08.699
i was running an adult daycare at times it was

00:38:08.699 --> 00:38:11.360
it was like somehow like i mean i just had this

00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:17.579
crazy like no budget whatsoever just crazy experiences

00:38:17.579 --> 00:38:22.300
i mean crazy fucking stories from it but um Well,

00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:23.559
we're going to have to get into some of those,

00:38:23.619 --> 00:38:25.320
but crazy. I got a question. Do you know of a

00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:29.480
gentleman named Dallas green, a band city in

00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:34.980
color and Alexis on fire. So you, you kind of

00:38:34.980 --> 00:38:37.079
remind me of that because I'm listening to your

00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:41.599
solo acoustic stuff. And, you know, to imagine

00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:44.960
you being in a metal band, I'm like this, this

00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:48.460
guy's too soulful and too like. acoustic to do

00:38:48.460 --> 00:38:50.840
that but same thing i got with dallas green and

00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:52.659
then you hear the alexis on fire and it's like

00:38:52.659 --> 00:38:55.380
two different people and two different sounds

00:38:55.380 --> 00:38:58.179
uh two different mindsets completely like two

00:38:58.179 --> 00:39:00.400
like when i started doing this like i had to

00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.599
teach myself how to play guitarian because i've

00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:06.539
been playing in like drop c and drop a for you

00:39:06.539 --> 00:39:10.440
know 10 years at that point and then i was like

00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:12.789
you know like I don't know, like, going fast

00:39:12.789 --> 00:39:16.309
is, like, I think after you do it so much, like,

00:39:16.349 --> 00:39:18.489
it's just, like, da -da -da -da -da -da -da -da

00:39:18.489 --> 00:39:20.550
-da -da -da -da -da -da. It just becomes, like,

00:39:20.570 --> 00:39:23.889
repetitious and, like, nobody, like, if you listen

00:39:23.889 --> 00:39:27.489
to, I'm not saying metal, they're not good metal

00:39:27.489 --> 00:39:29.309
out there. I love metal. I still listen to it.

00:39:29.710 --> 00:39:32.230
But I think, like, it's just very repetitious

00:39:32.230 --> 00:39:35.429
and there's not, like, a lot of, there's different

00:39:35.429 --> 00:39:37.349
ways to play with sounds, but there's not a.

00:39:37.690 --> 00:39:40.210
a lot of different ways to make them as much

00:39:40.210 --> 00:39:42.389
as like with your instrument like when you're

00:39:42.389 --> 00:39:44.489
playing in like standard tuning you're being

00:39:44.489 --> 00:39:48.230
more articulate with notation or or composition

00:39:48.230 --> 00:39:52.090
uh with metal i feel like a lot of times i just

00:39:52.090 --> 00:39:55.349
i get so i got burned out on going fast man i

00:39:55.349 --> 00:39:57.409
had to learn how to be slowly slow my brain down

00:39:57.409 --> 00:40:01.030
and like and like and then i once i once i figured

00:40:01.030 --> 00:40:03.030
that out i was like man this kind of this feels

00:40:03.030 --> 00:40:05.050
nice i think i'm gonna i think i'm gonna keep

00:40:05.050 --> 00:40:08.389
doing this I can just chill a little bit, yeah.

00:40:08.670 --> 00:40:11.289
Yeah, yeah. You don't have to go fast all the

00:40:11.289 --> 00:40:14.690
time, yeah. Slow down and enjoy the ride, man.

00:40:15.269 --> 00:40:19.269
Yeah. Like a band like Pantera, I like that because

00:40:19.269 --> 00:40:22.989
you get his great singing voice on top of the

00:40:22.989 --> 00:40:24.929
screaming. When you're just screaming all the

00:40:24.929 --> 00:40:27.550
time, I have no idea what you're saying. It's

00:40:27.550 --> 00:40:33.010
just I kind of tune out when it's so fast. You

00:40:33.010 --> 00:40:36.349
know, like you kind of lose. I don't know, like

00:40:36.349 --> 00:40:38.309
maybe that's the point you're trying to get across,

00:40:38.389 --> 00:40:41.070
but like you kind of lose to me the essence of

00:40:41.070 --> 00:40:44.610
what is being sung about or or talked about in

00:40:44.610 --> 00:40:47.670
the song to me. Yeah, it's very much one gear.

00:40:47.809 --> 00:40:51.849
You know what I mean? Like one one gear. You

00:40:51.849 --> 00:40:54.710
know what I'm saying? And like when I was doing

00:40:54.710 --> 00:40:56.769
it, like we were like an alternative post hardcore

00:40:56.769 --> 00:41:00.610
kind of band. So we definitely had like clean.

00:41:00.650 --> 00:41:03.820
I would. I was the one talent that I was kind

00:41:03.820 --> 00:41:05.860
of proud of is like, I used to be able to go

00:41:05.860 --> 00:41:08.800
from a singing voice to a scream on the drop

00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:11.239
of a dime. And that, that right there, it takes

00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:15.099
a little bit of a practice to get to that. You

00:41:15.099 --> 00:41:17.139
know what I mean? And be able to like, and breath

00:41:17.139 --> 00:41:20.519
placement, man. You know, like having all that

00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:22.500
mapped out in your head there, there are like

00:41:22.500 --> 00:41:26.920
intricacies to it. Yeah. I think sometimes it

00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:29.929
can get lost in translation, you know, everybody's

00:41:29.929 --> 00:41:33.110
just going fast all the time. Yeah. It's definitely

00:41:33.110 --> 00:41:35.769
cool. It's definitely a talent. I was just saying

00:41:35.769 --> 00:41:38.110
for me, it kind of, that, that screaming kind

00:41:38.110 --> 00:41:40.329
of makes me tune out, but it's definitely, I

00:41:40.329 --> 00:41:43.710
mean, you gotta have great vocal, you know, dexterity

00:41:43.710 --> 00:41:45.829
and strength and all that stuff. So I definitely

00:41:45.829 --> 00:41:48.570
appreciate, uh, you know, how hard it is. I was

00:41:48.570 --> 00:41:51.849
just, you know, saying for my own sonic sounds,

00:41:51.929 --> 00:41:55.210
you know, it's, it, I like, uh, I like, uh, I

00:41:55.210 --> 00:41:57.550
like your, your stuff you're doing now is, uh,

00:41:57.590 --> 00:42:00.480
kind of what I was leading to. I like it better.

00:42:00.579 --> 00:42:03.440
I think I like this better, too. I think, you

00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:05.119
know, and not to say that, like, I didn't have

00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:08.500
fun doing that. I think I'm a lot more comfortable

00:42:08.500 --> 00:42:13.559
in my own skin nowadays as far as music and what

00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:17.920
the way I make it. And, you know, I think I think

00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:22.860
as people grow as musicians, they kind of, you

00:42:22.860 --> 00:42:24.920
know, find themselves. I'm not sure how that

00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:29.320
works for Chad, but I'm sure. I'm sure he can

00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:32.440
relate to that. I can definitely relate to it.

00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:35.239
It's, but as, as we talked earlier, like, you

00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:39.000
know, I grew within this organization of three

00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:40.679
other guys that were growing together. So it

00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:47.199
was a good place to be for that. Yeah. It's interesting

00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:53.159
to do it all by yourself. Yeah. Yeah. It can

00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:57.599
be, it can be a little bit of a. a hustle sometimes

00:42:57.599 --> 00:42:59.940
you know uh i'm fortunate enough i do have a

00:42:59.940 --> 00:43:03.280
small team that works with me uh my wife for

00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:05.420
instance is kind of like she handles the business

00:43:05.420 --> 00:43:08.139
management side of things she handles like the

00:43:08.139 --> 00:43:10.739
finances she goes basically hey you can buy that

00:43:10.739 --> 00:43:15.139
guitar or no don't buy that guitar but hey like

00:43:15.139 --> 00:43:17.420
we need to stay on budget for this tour you know

00:43:17.420 --> 00:43:20.000
what i mean or she does those things she also

00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:22.119
helps with booking i have a booking agent that

00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:25.869
handles about I would say 20 % of my other bookings,

00:43:25.889 --> 00:43:30.090
I do have a manager based in South Africa and

00:43:30.090 --> 00:43:32.449
she's wonderful. She's, I mean, she's, she's

00:43:32.449 --> 00:43:35.349
a continental, she's continents away, but I,

00:43:35.429 --> 00:43:38.889
you know, I've, I underestimated when I met her,

00:43:38.909 --> 00:43:42.510
like her ability to, to get things done. And,

00:43:42.650 --> 00:43:44.530
you know, when we come up with a plan, she just,

00:43:44.610 --> 00:43:46.670
she's wonderful. She knocks it out. Her name's

00:43:46.670 --> 00:43:49.889
Bianca. And then I have a 13 year old daughter

00:43:49.889 --> 00:43:52.570
as well that. She comes on the road with me a

00:43:52.570 --> 00:43:55.150
lot, and she helps me set up and tear down my

00:43:55.150 --> 00:43:58.469
show. She sells merch. Nice. That's awesome.

00:43:58.829 --> 00:44:01.170
It's a small family -run business, man. Yeah,

00:44:01.210 --> 00:44:04.429
that's cool. Behind every good man, there's an

00:44:04.429 --> 00:44:07.670
even better woman, as somebody said one day.

00:44:07.849 --> 00:44:11.050
And if you could find that ying to your yang,

00:44:11.190 --> 00:44:12.949
that I think is a true statement, but you got

00:44:12.949 --> 00:44:15.449
to find the right one. Gracious, so we do have

00:44:15.449 --> 00:44:18.150
your Spotify page pulled up. I want Chad to check

00:44:18.150 --> 00:44:19.550
out some of your tunes. Which one do you want

00:44:19.550 --> 00:44:23.150
us to check out first? I'm a big fan of Play

00:44:23.150 --> 00:44:25.369
the Saint. I just think that's a catchy song.

00:44:25.650 --> 00:44:28.710
Cool. It's a personal preference. That song almost,

00:44:28.750 --> 00:44:31.449
so we released this on an album, or I released

00:44:31.449 --> 00:44:34.510
this on an album, and when I was working with

00:44:34.510 --> 00:44:37.969
the producer to make these songs studio ready,

00:44:38.090 --> 00:44:40.829
we didn't think it was going to make it on the

00:44:40.829 --> 00:44:42.730
album, but I think it turned out to be one of

00:44:42.730 --> 00:44:46.289
the stronger songs. Rock on. Ba -bay. You could

00:44:46.289 --> 00:44:52.000
hit play. Imagine we get this right, Chad, the

00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:56.099
first time. Yeah, it's going to be great. Oh,

00:44:56.159 --> 00:45:01.400
he didn't sign up for it. Oh, no. There we go.

00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:06.510
Yet another. We're going to watch Bobby sign

00:45:06.510 --> 00:45:09.829
up for Spotify. In the meantime, I might as well

00:45:09.829 --> 00:45:11.750
mention this tour I'm going on. What's your password,

00:45:11.889 --> 00:45:14.530
Bobby? Yeah, go ahead. Do the tour. You want

00:45:14.530 --> 00:45:17.230
me to stop sharing, Bobby? Yeah, go ahead. I'm

00:45:17.230 --> 00:45:20.429
going to stop. Yes, please. So right after, so

00:45:20.429 --> 00:45:22.949
we're releasing the new song on the 25th of May.

00:45:23.329 --> 00:45:25.889
I start, the technical start date of the tour

00:45:25.889 --> 00:45:28.090
is the day before, and then the release party,

00:45:28.250 --> 00:45:31.780
and then. Uh, I go up North all the way to Vermont.

00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:36.179
It's going to last from five, 27, 13. Uh, we're

00:45:36.179 --> 00:45:39.800
going not a bunch of New York dates, a bunch

00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:43.380
of like just up North stuff, Ohio, West Virginia.

00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:48.440
And then from there, the second leg is we're

00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:50.559
calling it the evergreen tour. And then the second

00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:53.980
leg, uh, I'm going to have a South African country

00:45:53.980 --> 00:45:57.030
artist joining me. He just won a Texas Country

00:45:57.030 --> 00:45:59.250
Music Award and he's got to be able to accept

00:45:59.250 --> 00:46:03.230
it in October. So we're going to tour from like

00:46:03.230 --> 00:46:09.030
the second week of July to the end of October

00:46:09.030 --> 00:46:12.349
together. And his name is Gareth. And he's wonderful,

00:46:12.670 --> 00:46:14.269
man. Like, I'm really looking forward to that.

00:46:14.349 --> 00:46:17.630
I've never, you know, worked with an artist out

00:46:17.630 --> 00:46:19.269
of the country. So I think it's going to be a

00:46:19.269 --> 00:46:21.409
wonderful opportunity to network with somebody

00:46:21.409 --> 00:46:25.139
and just go out on the road. do some cool shit.

00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:28.199
Uh, that's cool, man. That's, that's a long,

00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:29.940
that's some long touring there. It's going to

00:46:29.940 --> 00:46:32.239
be good. Yeah. No, that's not it. Yeah. That's

00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:34.300
just that West part. And then I'm doing the Midwest

00:46:34.300 --> 00:46:37.599
in the winter. So like I, we're doing, we're

00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:39.539
knocking it out, man. I'm a road warrior. I'm

00:46:39.539 --> 00:46:43.000
truck stops and fucking planet fitness, bro.

00:46:43.059 --> 00:46:45.420
And campgrounds when the weather's nice. That's

00:46:45.420 --> 00:46:47.320
the way to get happy when you see a Bucky's.

00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:50.099
Oh, bro. Dude, Bucky's is nice. Cause I know,

00:46:50.179 --> 00:46:55.289
I know for a fact, I don't have to hover. exactly

00:46:55.289 --> 00:47:00.050
yeah they're clean yes oh hover over the ball

00:47:00.050 --> 00:47:03.150
i'm like uh i don't know what bucky's the road

00:47:03.150 --> 00:47:04.690
dogs know what we're fucking talking about i

00:47:04.690 --> 00:47:06.590
was in the metal band we used to rate we used

00:47:06.590 --> 00:47:09.090
to rate club bathrooms on a scale from like one

00:47:09.090 --> 00:47:11.329
to ten turds and we would put it on the internet

00:47:11.329 --> 00:47:14.570
nice it'd be like the poop like like poopable

00:47:14.570 --> 00:47:17.389
like how poopable is this bathroom yes what's

00:47:17.389 --> 00:47:22.289
the goal bro you should have made that app uh

00:47:22.289 --> 00:47:23.869
yeah i guess probably a million do that shit

00:47:23.869 --> 00:47:27.429
that was back in like 2008 there wasn't apps

00:47:27.429 --> 00:47:30.889
yet right right man that's fucking i like that

00:47:30.889 --> 00:47:34.909
how poopable is that bath room on a scale of

00:47:34.909 --> 00:47:39.690
one to ten shits dude love it um so yeah we're

00:47:39.690 --> 00:47:41.130
gonna have we're gonna have crazier's music on

00:47:41.130 --> 00:47:43.449
so the audience could check it out but also uh

00:47:43.449 --> 00:47:46.690
after this uh audience members please go uh check

00:47:46.690 --> 00:47:51.809
out his page and um and um you know Follow them

00:47:51.809 --> 00:47:53.289
and check it out for yourselves because we can

00:47:53.289 --> 00:47:55.809
only play a certain amount. I think we get up

00:47:55.809 --> 00:47:58.570
to 30 seconds and then the copyright police come

00:47:58.570 --> 00:48:01.170
after us and yell at us. Even with Chad's band

00:48:01.170 --> 00:48:05.849
live, we have to stop it at 30 seconds so they

00:48:05.849 --> 00:48:07.610
don't come after us. At some point, we'll figure

00:48:07.610 --> 00:48:10.429
that out so we don't have to do that. But as

00:48:10.429 --> 00:48:13.650
we're a baby show growing, we're just kind of

00:48:13.650 --> 00:48:15.909
flying by the seat of our pants, so to speak.

00:48:16.389 --> 00:48:21.880
Gotta love that licensing. Yeah. Yeah. In one

00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:23.400
hand, it's good. In the other hand, it's like,

00:48:23.539 --> 00:48:27.739
okay, can we just play a song? Yeah, right. But

00:48:27.739 --> 00:48:31.900
you want to get paid too, but using it for your

00:48:31.900 --> 00:48:36.719
own stuff, I mean, come on. Well, the internet's

00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:39.900
got to figure that out with me, I guess. Let

00:48:39.900 --> 00:48:43.380
me see. Yeah, Bobby's having troubles. Yeah,

00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:48.280
I'm going to see if I can try this out for us.

00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:51.130
Hold on one second, guys. Can you guys see my

00:48:51.130 --> 00:48:54.969
screen? Yeah, I can see it. Oh, cool. And then

00:48:54.969 --> 00:48:58.170
I'm going to play the saint. Hopefully we can

00:48:58.170 --> 00:49:02.809
hear us. Let's check it out. Let me know if we

00:49:02.809 --> 00:49:23.920
have audio. Okay. No audio. No audio. Yeah, I'm

00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:27.099
not even getting it on my end here. I was not

00:49:27.099 --> 00:49:29.519
prepared to do this. I thought my Bobinator had

00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:35.239
it ready to go. So, again, audience, our technical

00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:39.019
difficulties get the best of us, but I think

00:49:39.019 --> 00:49:40.980
Bobby's working on it in the back. We're going

00:49:40.980 --> 00:49:44.900
to start calling Bobby Scott, but this is Scott

00:49:44.900 --> 00:49:50.420
from Howard Stern. Yeah. God, yeah. Bobby, the

00:49:50.420 --> 00:49:56.960
engineer. Oh no, dude. He's well, I mean, you

00:49:56.960 --> 00:49:59.000
know, at least he's got, he's an engineer with

00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:02.639
a job and that's, that's important. Yeah. He's

00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:05.300
he's going on the unemployment line very soon,

00:50:05.380 --> 00:50:12.170
but any who. So I guess that's why I thought

00:50:12.170 --> 00:50:15.369
maybe you were a little Christian leaning because

00:50:15.369 --> 00:50:18.829
Play of the Saints, Rock and Roll Jesus. Yeah,

00:50:18.829 --> 00:50:20.710
I guess it makes sense. No, Play of the Saints.

00:50:22.570 --> 00:50:24.909
Yeah, no, it's not really. I mean, Rock and Roll

00:50:24.909 --> 00:50:26.530
Jesus. I'll tell you about Rock and Roll Jesus.

00:50:26.730 --> 00:50:29.630
Rock and Roll Jesus is about a friend of mine

00:50:29.630 --> 00:50:32.590
who owned a club in Greensboro, North Carolina

00:50:32.590 --> 00:50:35.250
called the Somewhere Else Tavern. And I mean,

00:50:35.269 --> 00:50:37.030
this place was just like the dingiest little

00:50:37.030 --> 00:50:42.219
like, you know, dive. But it was original, live

00:50:42.219 --> 00:50:44.860
original music. And it used to be seven nights

00:50:44.860 --> 00:50:47.840
a week. And then it dropped down to like weekends

00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:50.199
when he got older. And then he eventually, he

00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:55.039
passed away last year. But he closed down in

00:50:55.039 --> 00:51:01.380
2019. And the beginning of the 2019. And I wrote

00:51:01.380 --> 00:51:04.880
that song then for him. uh as like an homage

00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:07.199
to like all the good he's done in the music community

00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:09.400
like he is the rock and roll jesus like he's

00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:12.239
the guy that like like if you didn't have a chance

00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:14.420
if no other club in town would give you a chance

00:51:14.420 --> 00:51:17.360
he would give you a chance like he gave you he

00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:19.960
gave you the soapbox and it was up to you to

00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:23.079
make that soapbox mean something and and like

00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:26.079
i am the musician that i am because of that place

00:51:26.079 --> 00:51:30.099
so um It was a place for me. I figured if I could

00:51:30.099 --> 00:51:32.880
get a crowd in there, then I can go out and do

00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:37.539
this on the road. That's cool. That's a great

00:51:37.539 --> 00:51:40.179
story. I love it. That's what Rock and Roll Jesus

00:51:40.179 --> 00:51:45.380
is about. If you don't mind me asking, or maybe

00:51:45.380 --> 00:51:47.719
you don't want to share, because I always have

00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:51.059
a conspiracy theory in my head, what did the

00:51:51.059 --> 00:51:57.280
gentleman pass away from? He was old. Old age.

00:51:58.260 --> 00:52:02.880
You know I like to blame the vaccine for everything.

00:52:04.380 --> 00:52:06.980
Yeah, I don't think it was that. He didn't have

00:52:06.980 --> 00:52:12.440
no legs or anything. He was diabetic. He had

00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.280
his other leg amputated a couple years prior

00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:20.059
to the cold closing down. He had been on one

00:52:20.059 --> 00:52:24.630
leg for a long time. It was like a slow progression.

00:52:25.090 --> 00:52:28.309
He ran it until he absolutely couldn't anymore.

00:52:28.630 --> 00:52:30.389
And I know it broke his heart when he had to

00:52:30.389 --> 00:52:33.250
stop. He didn't want to. I mean, he would have

00:52:33.250 --> 00:52:36.130
done it until he died, I'm sure, if he physically

00:52:36.130 --> 00:52:39.849
could. Right. Sounds like that was a thing that

00:52:39.849 --> 00:52:42.650
kept keeping him going, too. Yeah, no. I mean,

00:52:42.690 --> 00:52:44.590
he was like two years later. I mean, you know,

00:52:44.630 --> 00:52:47.460
so. Yeah. that's a horrible disease diabetes

00:52:47.460 --> 00:52:49.579
when they have to start amputating shit oh my

00:52:49.579 --> 00:52:51.980
god so bad yeah he was in you know he had like

00:52:51.980 --> 00:52:54.260
renal failure and was on dialysis and all that

00:52:54.260 --> 00:52:57.820
so i mean it was his name was burley and uh he

00:52:57.820 --> 00:53:00.860
was a great man he was uh you know i have a lot

00:53:00.860 --> 00:53:03.719
of respect for him and he's always going to be

00:53:03.719 --> 00:53:07.179
like one of those people that like when i think

00:53:07.179 --> 00:53:09.280
of like hey what kind of person i want to be

00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:12.059
like he was like the nicest most loving caring

00:53:12.059 --> 00:53:15.199
person like you could ever ever meet and and

00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:17.400
the fact that he would let all these like lost

00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:20.940
souls come up here and like play music and not

00:53:20.940 --> 00:53:26.739
like judge you like you know god bless god bless

00:53:26.739 --> 00:53:30.059
first of all but but people like that like who

00:53:30.059 --> 00:53:33.699
who don't stop being that loving nice person

00:53:33.699 --> 00:53:36.139
when bad shit gets dealt their way because i

00:53:36.139 --> 00:53:38.900
i think about like me like i would probably become

00:53:38.900 --> 00:53:41.679
a miserable person you know if i'm losing limbs

00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:43.519
and stuff like that and the fact that he was

00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:47.880
still able to, you know, be a light for people

00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:50.519
is, is a beautiful fucking thing, man. Yeah.

00:53:50.579 --> 00:53:52.460
One second. I got to plug in my computer. I'll

00:53:52.460 --> 00:53:57.519
be right back. Sorry. No, he definitely, he definitely

00:53:57.519 --> 00:53:59.320
was. I mean, he was like coming to my, he came

00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:02.739
to a show like about a year, about a year before

00:54:02.739 --> 00:54:05.440
he died. Yeah. He still was getting out and like

00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:09.179
checking out bands and you know, he, he, he was

00:54:09.179 --> 00:54:11.969
a good dude for sure. God bless, man. So the,

00:54:11.989 --> 00:54:14.610
I'm guessing it was like diabetes too, or something.

00:54:14.730 --> 00:54:17.429
It wasn't something he was born with. Yeah, I

00:54:17.429 --> 00:54:20.010
think it was too. I'm not sure. I mean, I, I

00:54:20.010 --> 00:54:22.670
didn't meet Burley until he was, you know, probably

00:54:22.670 --> 00:54:26.210
in his fifties when I met him, maybe forties,

00:54:26.210 --> 00:54:28.829
but like maybe like forties, early fifties, I

00:54:28.829 --> 00:54:33.269
think. And, uh, yeah. So, and then he, like I

00:54:33.269 --> 00:54:35.389
said, he, when I was homeless, I mean, like he

00:54:35.389 --> 00:54:36.849
gave me a place, you know what I mean? I was

00:54:36.849 --> 00:54:39.670
just a kid with a guitar and a dream. a homeless

00:54:39.670 --> 00:54:42.570
you know teenager you know street rat basically

00:54:42.570 --> 00:54:45.590
and i would go like literally pick up cigarette

00:54:45.590 --> 00:54:47.429
butts out of the parking lot just to get in for

00:54:47.429 --> 00:54:50.030
free and i did that and i would bar back or i

00:54:50.030 --> 00:54:51.969
would you know do whatever dave wanted me to

00:54:51.969 --> 00:54:54.510
do or help run video or help hook up lights or

00:54:54.510 --> 00:54:57.090
you know i just wanted to be around music and

00:54:57.090 --> 00:54:59.309
he let me do it like you know i didn't have a

00:54:59.309 --> 00:55:02.230
dime to my name back then you know like one day

00:55:02.230 --> 00:55:03.570
he just looks at me he goes hey man you don't

00:55:03.570 --> 00:55:05.630
you know you don't have to pay anymore right

00:55:05.630 --> 00:55:08.539
and i'm like wow I'm like, I don't, I mean, like,

00:55:08.539 --> 00:55:10.659
I'll, but like, it was only five bucks, you know,

00:55:10.659 --> 00:55:14.619
but still back then, you know, five bucks. Yeah,

00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:18.039
for sure. Burger for, for supper, you know, so

00:55:18.039 --> 00:55:21.059
I could not be hungry. Five bucks is still a

00:55:21.059 --> 00:55:24.119
lot. Uh, I think we got it. Uh, creation. Okay.

00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:26.440
Yeah. If you have the sound sound shared, please

00:55:26.440 --> 00:57:05.360
let's roll. Spotify. Here we go. Yo, yo. Yes,

00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:09.079
dude. Chad, you getting that Alice in Chains

00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:13.159
vibe? Absolutely. Yeah, man. Did it just cut

00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:15.639
off or did we stop it? No, I stopped it. Again,

00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:18.519
I don't want us to get into copyright shit, but

00:57:18.519 --> 00:57:20.539
I'm going to play another one before we get Creatio

00:57:20.539 --> 00:57:22.920
off. I think because I can play clips and stuff,

00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:27.900
but I just can't go full song. Yeah. The graphic.

00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:31.059
arts for the uh album cover is that something

00:57:31.059 --> 00:57:33.179
you personally did or do you have somebody because

00:57:33.179 --> 00:57:37.440
you got a lot i mean i oversaw it uh uh so i

00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:40.820
have a wonderful uh graphic design artist his

00:57:40.820 --> 00:57:45.079
name is benjamin mota uh he owns a company called

00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:48.460
axis design out in california and i mean he is

00:57:48.460 --> 00:57:52.199
just top -notch man uh i i i started working

00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:55.690
with him uh i was doing club shows in florida

00:57:55.690 --> 00:57:58.150
i was a promoter at a club in florida for a while

00:57:58.150 --> 00:58:04.590
and uh i saw him doing metal band stuff and because

00:58:04.590 --> 00:58:06.530
that was there was a lot of you know i was still

00:58:06.530 --> 00:58:10.329
kind of in the metal circuit and um i saw what

00:58:10.329 --> 00:58:12.090
he was doing i was like man this guy's good i

00:58:12.090 --> 00:58:14.789
wonder what he costs and uh you know i just had

00:58:14.789 --> 00:58:16.889
a car i messaged him i was like hey man just

00:58:16.889 --> 00:58:20.349
curious about like how you like to work or he

00:58:20.349 --> 00:58:22.730
was he's just super chill super down to earth

00:58:22.730 --> 00:58:28.239
like I can have an idea and like I can give him,

00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:31.519
you know, my idea or like my thought or whatever

00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:35.380
it is that I see in my head or like I can describe

00:58:35.380 --> 00:58:38.059
it to him. And he just makes it come to life,

00:58:38.119 --> 00:58:41.539
man. Like he's he just makes it come to life.

00:58:41.619 --> 00:58:45.619
He's just every every he's doing the promo materials

00:58:45.619 --> 00:58:50.599
for the new release. So I'm doing a merch design

00:58:50.599 --> 00:58:54.880
for this new release, too. He did that. But,

00:58:54.940 --> 00:58:56.400
you know, not to say I don't work with other

00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:58.760
graphic designers, but, like, he's the guy, like,

00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:01.239
he's my go -to. You know what I mean? I got to

00:59:01.239 --> 00:59:03.340
do the shameless plug on his business. Oh, absolutely.

00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:04.940
That's a great resource to have. No, please.

00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:08.380
Amazing. That's what this show is about. I mean,

00:59:08.420 --> 00:59:10.719
come on, plug yourself, the stuff, the people

00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:14.559
you work with. We want to spread, you know, light

00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:18.139
on the guests that come on here because the people

00:59:18.139 --> 00:59:19.800
we have on, you know, we're into their stuff.

00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:22.820
So, by all means, you could shout out. Yeah,

00:59:22.860 --> 00:59:26.400
he's done like my last – I mean, I've been working

00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:31.440
with him for shit since like 2016 or something.

00:59:32.099 --> 00:59:34.840
Nice. It's been a while. It's been almost – yeah,

00:59:35.139 --> 00:59:38.460
we're coming up on 10 years in a couple years.

00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:42.920
They sneak by fast, don't they? Whoa. Yeah, he

00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:45.559
used to – yeah, no, he's done a lot for me, and

00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:48.940
I've thrown him other people. Anytime I see people

00:59:48.940 --> 00:59:50.420
who wanted to grow up at the center, that's the

00:59:50.420 --> 00:59:54.409
guy. That's nice. If you want to try somebody

00:59:54.409 --> 00:59:56.530
else, dude, I'm really good at stick figures,

00:59:56.650 --> 00:59:59.170
man. I can draw the bad -ass stick figure like

00:59:59.170 --> 01:00:01.510
you wouldn't believe. I'll have my management

01:00:01.510 --> 01:00:05.329
get back to you. Tell Bianca that I don't come

01:00:05.329 --> 01:00:12.349
cheap either. South Africa's calling. How did

01:00:12.349 --> 01:00:14.190
you hook up with a South African manager, by

01:00:14.190 --> 01:00:20.610
the way? Last October, you know, I was on the

01:00:20.610 --> 01:00:23.349
internet as you do. It's usually how it starts.

01:00:23.389 --> 01:00:26.929
And I'm in like, you know, a bunch of these different,

01:00:26.949 --> 01:00:29.050
like back when I was like establishing myself

01:00:29.050 --> 01:00:31.909
in the touring network and everything, I would

01:00:31.909 --> 01:00:34.530
like, you know, get on the, you know, music in

01:00:34.530 --> 01:00:39.289
East Tennessee or music in Flagstaff, Arizona

01:00:39.289 --> 01:00:41.869
or whatever page, like live music and you know,

01:00:41.869 --> 01:00:43.530
whatever. And she was like posting around in

01:00:43.530 --> 01:00:45.329
these pages. And at first I'm like, you know,

01:00:45.349 --> 01:00:49.480
like probably a scam, whatever. But like, let's

01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:52.539
turn over the rock, you know, like, and I did.

01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:57.619
And she introduced herself and we kind of got

01:00:57.619 --> 01:01:03.340
to know each other. And then this year she started

01:01:03.340 --> 01:01:09.059
working with me. And like, I mean, just like,

01:01:09.059 --> 01:01:13.059
she's really good at like, okay, well assessing

01:01:13.059 --> 01:01:17.340
like where an artist is at and, and going. OK,

01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:19.380
well, let's get this together because this is

01:01:19.380 --> 01:01:21.980
what's like going to make you. She's helped me

01:01:21.980 --> 01:01:25.219
with like rebranding a little bit and just being

01:01:25.219 --> 01:01:28.059
like having more cohesive, like having like my

01:01:28.059 --> 01:01:30.420
ideas translate in a cohesive, like nice, neat

01:01:30.420 --> 01:01:33.960
package, like or, you know, have it or connecting

01:01:33.960 --> 01:01:37.639
me with other people, finding press release resources,

01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:41.579
you know. um you know talking to other artists

01:01:41.579 --> 01:01:44.880
or or or whatever she's just a conduit and she

01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:47.199
knows she's knowledgeable you know what i mean

01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:49.099
she was like well you need to do these things

01:01:49.099 --> 01:01:50.719
i'd really like to see you dump some money on

01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:52.960
some of your budget into these things and so

01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:55.199
i was like i took her advice and i started doing

01:01:55.199 --> 01:02:00.239
like seo and and like you know things like that

01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:03.400
and and just like working behind the scenes diligently

01:02:03.400 --> 01:02:07.980
and and like i mean overnight man Like, it's

01:02:07.980 --> 01:02:12.079
been kind of wild how, like, I can see it, like,

01:02:12.179 --> 01:02:14.460
we're tracking it now. And, like, I can see it

01:02:14.460 --> 01:02:18.300
on, you know, statistically. Sure. Like, their

01:02:18.300 --> 01:02:20.940
advice is working. Yeah, it's working. So, like,

01:02:20.940 --> 01:02:22.980
I mean, I don't mind spending, you know, money

01:02:22.980 --> 01:02:25.820
on my business as long as the dollar is working

01:02:25.820 --> 01:02:27.340
for me. You know what I mean? Like, that's the,

01:02:27.500 --> 01:02:30.519
like, you know, to be a small business owner

01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:33.559
in America is kind of like, you know, everyone

01:02:33.559 --> 01:02:36.000
counts. And, like, so. At the end of the day,

01:02:36.019 --> 01:02:38.000
like I got enough money to help cover my bills

01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:40.880
at home and run my business. And running the

01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:43.460
business means paying those who help you. It

01:02:43.460 --> 01:02:46.320
means, you know, putting gas in the tank, buying

01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:50.880
materials or tools. It means, you know, all kinds

01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:54.900
of things that come with a price tag. Sure. At

01:02:54.900 --> 01:02:56.800
the end of the day, it's like I'm operating on

01:02:56.800 --> 01:02:59.019
a razor thin budget, sleeping in a van on the

01:02:59.019 --> 01:03:02.880
road, you know, and playing rock and roll by

01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:05.719
night. So like. That's how you got to do it in

01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:07.300
the beginning, man. You're, you're, you're checking

01:03:07.300 --> 01:03:11.280
all the boxes. You hear every starving artist

01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:13.440
that, that turned it into something. I mean,

01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:15.039
that, that's how it goes. You know, they're,

01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:17.880
they're running on a shoestring budget. Jewel

01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:20.519
living in her car with her mother. Like you have

01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:23.840
to, you have to taste that, you know, that, that

01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:26.900
fucking real juicy fruit. You got to go through

01:03:26.900 --> 01:03:31.969
the road is a salty, salty biatch. i've seen

01:03:31.969 --> 01:03:35.610
it all dude i've been robbed i've i've been rex

01:03:35.610 --> 01:03:38.570
i've broke down i can't tell you how many times

01:03:38.570 --> 01:03:41.510
like i've you know i broke down in places of

01:03:41.510 --> 01:03:43.030
the country where it's like you don't want to

01:03:43.030 --> 01:03:45.530
break down there bro like like battle mountain

01:03:45.530 --> 01:03:47.250
nevada you don't want to break down a battle

01:03:47.250 --> 01:03:50.849
mount there's nothing there you know what i mean

01:03:50.849 --> 01:03:56.429
you know like it's Chad told a story when his

01:03:56.429 --> 01:03:58.889
band, I think Live was first starting out. They

01:03:58.889 --> 01:04:02.269
were in New York City and went to buy a video

01:04:02.269 --> 01:04:05.070
camera, you know, like back in the early 90s

01:04:05.070 --> 01:04:07.050
when they were like these big things and boxes.

01:04:07.550 --> 01:04:09.090
And, you know, they were getting a good deal

01:04:09.090 --> 01:04:11.010
from somebody on the street. And then once they

01:04:11.010 --> 01:04:13.110
went to open it up, it was like filled with like

01:04:13.110 --> 01:04:15.849
paper or some weighted thing that the camera

01:04:15.849 --> 01:04:20.489
was. No, we were we were we used to rent a van.

01:04:21.449 --> 01:04:23.510
We had to have a parent run a van for us because

01:04:23.510 --> 01:04:25.949
we were underage. And the parent would drive

01:04:25.949 --> 01:04:29.570
us to New York to play at CDG's. That's where

01:04:29.570 --> 01:04:31.849
we got signed. And one of the times we were coming

01:04:31.849 --> 01:04:33.469
out of Holland Tunnel and there was traffic,

01:04:33.570 --> 01:04:35.550
so we kind of stopped and this guy approaches

01:04:35.550 --> 01:04:38.510
and he's like, he's got this box and it's cellophane

01:04:38.510 --> 01:04:41.030
wrap and it's like this camcorder. He's like,

01:04:41.070 --> 01:04:43.230
hey, 500 bucks. And so we're like, oh shit. So

01:04:43.230 --> 01:04:45.550
we all put our money together. And my cousin,

01:04:45.590 --> 01:04:48.289
who was our roadie forever, he put in the most.

01:04:48.469 --> 01:04:50.210
And he's like, I get to use the most. I'm putting

01:04:50.210 --> 01:04:52.480
the most. Okay. So we give the guy the money,

01:04:52.599 --> 01:04:55.219
gives us the frigging package and open it up.

01:04:55.219 --> 01:04:57.820
It's a brick. Oh my fuck. We're like, son of

01:04:57.820 --> 01:04:59.159
a bitch. We're like, Matt, you get to use it

01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:02.420
the most. I don't know, man. We got to take it.

01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:06.159
500 bucks. That's a, I mean, that's a, that's

01:05:06.159 --> 01:05:08.340
still a hit on the road, man. When you're on

01:05:08.340 --> 01:05:11.900
the road, dude, like literally anytime those

01:05:11.900 --> 01:05:13.820
wheels are turning, like you could just, all

01:05:13.820 --> 01:05:19.039
I hear every time. like when i'm going down the

01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:21.239
highway the hum of the highway is the sounds

01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:27.519
of dollars leaving my bank account but if i'm

01:05:27.519 --> 01:05:29.840
doing it right then i'm making money too so yeah

01:05:32.050 --> 01:05:34.130
Creatio, let's tell the audience the way we like

01:05:34.130 --> 01:05:35.969
to do this here because we like our guests to

01:05:35.969 --> 01:05:37.949
come back and we want the audience to want some

01:05:37.949 --> 01:05:39.969
more from them. So let's tell the audience where

01:05:39.969 --> 01:05:43.170
they could find all your stuff on social media

01:05:43.170 --> 01:05:46.210
or Spotify, like what the destination would be.

01:05:46.250 --> 01:05:49.909
The easiest place to get to all my stuff in one

01:05:49.909 --> 01:05:54.090
fell swoop is my website. And that's creatioband

01:05:54.090 --> 01:05:59.610
.com. And I just actually. We just revamped it

01:05:59.610 --> 01:06:03.869
and made it look a little nicer and made it look

01:06:03.869 --> 01:06:06.070
a little bit better. It wasn't looking bad before,

01:06:06.210 --> 01:06:10.010
but I really like the way it's looking now. You

01:06:10.010 --> 01:06:13.170
stepped it up a bit. My tour dates are all there,

01:06:13.250 --> 01:06:15.610
so if you want to catch me on the road anywhere,

01:06:16.030 --> 01:06:19.550
check that out. There's always a concert calendar

01:06:19.550 --> 01:06:23.460
there. there's you can listen to that whole album

01:06:23.460 --> 01:06:25.699
passage for free you don't have to have spotify

01:06:25.699 --> 01:06:27.719
like if you want to listen to it there you can

01:06:27.719 --> 01:06:31.619
um also like buy it if you're into that because

01:06:31.619 --> 01:06:34.440
it helps obviously you can get to my merch store

01:06:34.440 --> 01:06:37.440
from there and then all like my social media

01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:41.619
like links are all there so like if you're into

01:06:41.619 --> 01:06:44.039
that and you want to follow or support an artist

01:06:44.529 --> 01:06:46.829
Absolutely. If you listen to the tunes and you

01:06:46.829 --> 01:06:48.769
like it, buy the album because, like you said,

01:06:48.849 --> 01:06:51.389
that supports the artist. You don't make much

01:06:51.389 --> 01:06:54.269
off of streams. It all goes to, you know. Streams

01:06:54.269 --> 01:06:56.230
don't amount to nothing. And I ain't got, you

01:06:56.230 --> 01:06:59.429
know, I unfortunately, I'm not one of those guys

01:06:59.429 --> 01:07:02.650
that can bring myself to pay for streams. Like,

01:07:02.650 --> 01:07:04.510
I'm just not going to do, I just feel like that's

01:07:04.510 --> 01:07:08.130
fake and it's unrealistic and it gives, you know,

01:07:08.130 --> 01:07:10.889
some sense of, you know, not to say that I don't

01:07:10.889 --> 01:07:12.309
want my stuff in front of people. Absolutely,

01:07:12.510 --> 01:07:16.150
I do. But I'm not I'll pay for sponsored advertising

01:07:16.150 --> 01:07:19.309
on social media, but I'm not paying for sponsored

01:07:19.309 --> 01:07:21.150
streams. I'm just not going to do that because

01:07:21.150 --> 01:07:23.929
those are fake. They're they're they're bot farms

01:07:23.929 --> 01:07:26.349
doing that. You know what I mean? And just not

01:07:26.349 --> 01:07:30.090
as you know what I want to pay five or six hundred

01:07:30.090 --> 01:07:32.329
dollars to have some bot farm stream the fuck

01:07:32.329 --> 01:07:34.690
out of my stuff. And I'm still not going to make

01:07:34.690 --> 01:07:37.329
any of that money back. So that's an investment.

01:07:38.190 --> 01:07:40.710
they're not fans coming to you. It's just plays

01:07:40.710 --> 01:07:42.469
that you're getting to rack up. That doesn't

01:07:42.469 --> 01:07:44.909
translate ticket and merch sales. So like, you

01:07:44.909 --> 01:07:47.889
know, right. There's a, there's a bunch of guys

01:07:47.889 --> 01:07:49.829
out there that pay for that shit. And, and like,

01:07:49.849 --> 01:07:51.429
you'll go to their show and there's nobody there.

01:07:52.269 --> 01:07:58.269
Yep. You know, you know, so. Do not do that.

01:07:58.449 --> 01:08:00.590
I heard this was a dead thing on like when you

01:08:00.590 --> 01:08:02.489
go on tours and stuff, but maybe not. Are people

01:08:02.489 --> 01:08:06.440
buying CDs when you do these shows? i don't do

01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:09.900
cds man uh i just give my music away because

01:08:09.900 --> 01:08:12.599
of the internet you know what i mean it's just

01:08:12.599 --> 01:08:15.739
uh obviously like i would like to sell it and

01:08:15.739 --> 01:08:17.840
like i do offer it for money on the internet

01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:20.840
but like if you got itunes or you got amazon

01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:25.560
or you got you know google whatever youtube your

01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:28.720
preferred method like my distributor does all

01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:31.739
of that so like It's really readily accessible

01:08:31.739 --> 01:08:34.760
streaming on the internet. So like, you know,

01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:37.199
I always offer it for sale. People want to support,

01:08:37.420 --> 01:08:40.960
but like, sure. Like I sell a lot of t -shirts,

01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:44.020
t -shirts, t -shirts. So great. I mean, like

01:08:44.020 --> 01:08:46.020
basically if you're a musician, you're traveling

01:08:46.020 --> 01:08:48.979
t -shirt, t -shirt salesman with a, with a however

01:08:48.979 --> 01:08:51.119
long presentation about why people should buy

01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:55.609
your shit. Right. So we're going to play you

01:08:55.609 --> 01:08:57.090
out with one of your songs. Which one do you

01:08:57.090 --> 01:08:58.670
want to pick? And why don't you set it up a little

01:08:58.670 --> 01:09:01.329
bit for you? And I want to thank you for coming

01:09:01.329 --> 01:09:03.649
on. You've been an excellent guest. There was

01:09:03.649 --> 01:09:06.729
a lot of information we got here. Chad and I

01:09:06.729 --> 01:09:08.590
both enjoyed your company. And again, we're going

01:09:08.590 --> 01:09:10.329
to have you on in the future. But why don't you

01:09:10.329 --> 01:09:13.189
set this up for the audience? So I don't know

01:09:13.189 --> 01:09:16.470
if it's on this page. If you scroll down, there's

01:09:16.470 --> 01:09:20.229
a Going Nowhere. That's my latest single. I released

01:09:20.229 --> 01:09:24.289
that. Cool. A couple summers ago, I released

01:09:24.289 --> 01:09:26.689
this. I went on a U .S. cross -country tour.

01:09:28.550 --> 01:09:31.069
Hold on, Bobby. Go ahead, brother. I'm sorry.

01:09:31.369 --> 01:09:34.250
Yeah, so I released this. I went on a U .S. cross

01:09:34.250 --> 01:09:38.529
-country tour and had a blast. I took my daughter,

01:09:38.670 --> 01:09:43.270
and it was great. There was one thing about this

01:09:43.270 --> 01:09:45.310
track that happened to me on the road that I

01:09:45.310 --> 01:09:47.489
wanted to mention, and I'll get into kind of

01:09:47.489 --> 01:09:50.069
what it's about. i was at a truck stop cooking

01:09:50.069 --> 01:09:52.609
breakfast one morning as you do at the dog park

01:09:52.609 --> 01:09:56.670
at the loves and uh you know uh i was there with

01:09:56.670 --> 01:09:59.949
my my helper and my daughter and like this guy

01:09:59.949 --> 01:10:01.930
walks up and he's like he's got his dog and his

01:10:01.930 --> 01:10:03.949
kid with him and he's like oh hey you know small

01:10:03.949 --> 01:10:06.069
talk he's like oh what do you do for them i'm

01:10:06.069 --> 01:10:08.409
like i'm a musician and he was like cool i was

01:10:08.409 --> 01:10:11.340
like here's my links check it out this dude lee

01:10:11.340 --> 01:10:13.460
you know we shake hands or whatever and we go

01:10:13.460 --> 01:10:15.619
our separate ways and i stay and cook breakfast

01:10:15.619 --> 01:10:17.899
and he goes up the highway on into the sunset

01:10:17.899 --> 01:10:21.359
or whatever about 15 20 minutes later he comes

01:10:21.359 --> 01:10:24.300
back to the truck stop and he's like dude he

01:10:24.300 --> 01:10:26.020
goes i just listened to your new single he goes

01:10:26.020 --> 01:10:30.659
he goes my dad died you know or uh a couple months

01:10:30.659 --> 01:10:33.680
ago and i've just been lost and and i heard the

01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:35.460
song and it made me feel like i wasn't alone

01:10:35.460 --> 01:10:38.079
and he's like i came back to tell you that and

01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:40.439
i was like Holy shit. It worked. You know what

01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:42.640
I mean? Like that was like that moment you have

01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:45.439
as a musician, like that, that surpasses any

01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:48.899
dollar amount that I will ever make. Yeah. So,

01:10:49.460 --> 01:10:53.920
but I wrote the song, like what it's about for

01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:57.279
me and what I wrote when I was writing, it's

01:10:57.279 --> 01:11:00.180
kind of about the relationship of finding balance

01:11:00.180 --> 01:11:03.159
between being on the road and being at home.

01:11:03.239 --> 01:11:05.819
Cause a lot of times, like when you're, when

01:11:05.819 --> 01:11:08.289
you go out for 30 days, you know, And you come

01:11:08.289 --> 01:11:11.930
home, there's this like adjustment period. Sure.

01:11:12.109 --> 01:11:13.869
And there's also like an adjustment period when

01:11:13.869 --> 01:11:16.770
you go out. But like when you come home, it's

01:11:16.770 --> 01:11:18.470
like you're going a million. When you come home,

01:11:18.510 --> 01:11:22.350
your brain is still just. Running. Running a

01:11:22.350 --> 01:11:24.390
million miles an hour. And then like that used

01:11:24.390 --> 01:11:26.649
to lead to things like depression for me. And

01:11:26.649 --> 01:11:30.130
it used to lead to things like just really horrible.

01:11:30.189 --> 01:11:33.289
You know, I would cope with substances or whatever.

01:11:33.930 --> 01:11:40.050
And, you know. this was you know my way of talking

01:11:40.050 --> 01:11:42.909
about it i guess is you know yeah dealing with

01:11:42.909 --> 01:11:46.050
it yeah so putting it out there and and and i'm

01:11:46.050 --> 01:11:48.489
sure you know like you said that that guy he

01:11:48.489 --> 01:11:50.970
felt what you were saying so you got what you

01:11:50.970 --> 01:11:53.250
were trying to get you put out with the song

01:11:53.250 --> 01:11:55.270
which is beautiful creation so why don't you

01:11:55.270 --> 01:11:57.710
say um say la vie to the audience we're going

01:11:57.710 --> 01:11:59.329
to keep in touch have you on again i'm going

01:11:59.329 --> 01:12:00.949
to play you out with the song my man thank you

01:12:00.949 --> 01:12:03.890
again for for coming on and being so much honest

01:12:03.890 --> 01:12:06.390
dude yeah i appreciate you guys really really

01:12:06.390 --> 01:12:09.130
really really appreciate it thank you very welcome

01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:29.859
I'm going 15 ,000 miles an hour I ain't even

01:12:29.859 --> 01:12:36.340
left my home Framework of an empty shell Living

01:12:36.340 --> 01:12:58.010
my own personal hell alone Yes, ladies and gentlemen,

01:12:58.050 --> 01:13:02.569
that was Creatio. Very cool. Very cool. A little

01:13:02.569 --> 01:13:05.609
taste of his music to get your lips wet, but

01:13:05.609 --> 01:13:08.310
please go check it out. I was impressed by what

01:13:08.310 --> 01:13:11.970
he had on Spotify, man. It's cool music. I went

01:13:11.970 --> 01:13:17.569
and followed him on Instagram, sent out a couple

01:13:17.569 --> 01:13:20.109
people to follow him. Yeah. Very cool. Great

01:13:20.109 --> 01:13:23.420
to have him on. And so we'll have him on again.

01:13:23.500 --> 01:13:26.300
And who the hell knows? Maybe he'll be on after

01:13:26.300 --> 01:13:28.640
he tours Madison Square Garden, all that stuff.

01:13:28.699 --> 01:13:30.659
I have a lot of faith in that guy. He seems to

01:13:30.659 --> 01:13:33.640
be surrounding himself with the people, learning

01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:35.880
from his lessons, you know, in the past and stuff

01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:38.819
like that. So sky's the limit, man. More importantly,

01:13:38.819 --> 01:13:41.520
he has the drive and persistence to do it. Very

01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:46.079
true. What it takes. Bobby, why don't you come

01:13:46.079 --> 01:13:48.500
off mic there and say hello to the audience and

01:13:48.500 --> 01:13:51.310
let's hear what your crazy ass has to say. Got

01:13:51.310 --> 01:13:53.569
to straighten that. Yes. I don't know what to

01:13:53.569 --> 01:13:57.649
start with. Well, first of all, hello, Bobby.

01:13:57.710 --> 01:14:01.130
How are you? How is everybody today? How is everything?

01:14:02.069 --> 01:14:04.289
Doing well. I'm doing good. I'm doing good. I'm

01:14:04.289 --> 01:14:08.710
doing good. So what crazy thing have you, because

01:14:08.710 --> 01:14:11.310
Bobby goes down some serious rabbit holes, which

01:14:11.310 --> 01:14:13.649
I love his passion for stuff, and he could dive

01:14:13.649 --> 01:14:16.050
deep. Are you diving deep into anything nowadays

01:14:16.050 --> 01:14:20.470
that we should know about? Actually. The big

01:14:20.470 --> 01:14:24.649
thing that I've been looking into is whether

01:14:24.649 --> 01:14:29.310
or not we are in the short season. Have you read

01:14:29.310 --> 01:14:34.689
the Revelation? In the Bible? Yeah. Yes. You

01:14:34.689 --> 01:14:37.930
know the short season where Satan deceives the

01:14:37.930 --> 01:14:42.250
nations? Okay. That's where I'm at right now

01:14:42.250 --> 01:14:46.770
as far as research. Biblical words coming to

01:14:46.770 --> 01:14:49.539
fruition. Bobby, have you ever heard that famous

01:14:49.539 --> 01:14:53.039
speech by Paul Harvey? Yes, yes. If I was the

01:14:53.039 --> 01:14:55.739
devil, this is all on the imagination. Yeah,

01:14:55.859 --> 01:14:59.739
very interesting. I recommend everyone listens

01:14:59.739 --> 01:15:02.880
to that. Yeah. Because that's exactly what's

01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:08.939
happening. So, Bob, do you have faith in humanity?

01:15:09.100 --> 01:15:13.600
Are we on our... uh you know is everything going

01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:16.340
downhill or or is there good on the horizon and

01:15:16.340 --> 01:15:18.260
we're just oh there's good there's good i have

01:15:18.260 --> 01:15:22.939
faith in humanity i i will never not have faith

01:15:22.939 --> 01:15:26.000
in humanity you know everybody's talking about

01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:29.000
this eclipse coming up it's an x over america

01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:32.420
it's not an x it's an a first of all it's an

01:15:32.420 --> 01:15:37.619
lf the lf it's it's it's an a it forms an a not

01:15:37.619 --> 01:15:40.470
an x everybody's Saying it's an ass, but it's

01:15:40.470 --> 01:15:43.689
actually an A. And that's actually a sign. I

01:15:43.689 --> 01:15:45.649
think it's a good sign, to be honest with you.

01:15:47.010 --> 01:15:50.529
So, Chad, you saw Bobby's video with the cops.

01:15:51.350 --> 01:15:54.729
So, I looked at it as like, Bobby, why are you

01:15:54.729 --> 01:15:56.890
busting their balls? You know, it's a thankless

01:15:56.890 --> 01:15:59.369
job. But he lives in New York City, so he sees

01:15:59.369 --> 01:16:02.050
this every day where they're just standing around

01:16:02.050 --> 01:16:04.789
and stuff like that. And I was just, it's a thankless

01:16:04.789 --> 01:16:08.170
job, man. And it's such. And there's so much

01:16:08.170 --> 01:16:10.529
that goes with it. Like I was just saying, like,

01:16:10.569 --> 01:16:12.369
maybe you shouldn't bust their balls, but again,

01:16:12.470 --> 01:16:15.130
everybody should do, should do them. And he puts

01:16:15.130 --> 01:16:17.189
up with it a lot more. I mean, again, he lives,

01:16:17.250 --> 01:16:19.569
you know, in the city and sees it more often.

01:16:19.630 --> 01:16:21.590
I only travel in a couple of days a week and

01:16:21.590 --> 01:16:23.829
I go by car, so I'm not in the subways and stuff

01:16:23.829 --> 01:16:26.289
like that. So I wasn't, I wasn't busting your

01:16:26.289 --> 01:16:28.390
balls too much, Bobby. I was just kind of saying.

01:16:28.569 --> 01:16:31.109
No, I know, I know. Bobby, so is there, is there,

01:16:31.130 --> 01:16:33.659
obviously there's a difference. now than there

01:16:33.659 --> 01:16:36.420
was as far as mount security in the subways because

01:16:36.420 --> 01:16:40.220
i remember for a while it's insane it's insane

01:16:40.220 --> 01:16:43.779
there's like at least 10 cops every station there's

01:16:43.779 --> 01:16:47.100
national guard now in every station that i've

01:16:47.100 --> 01:16:49.880
been to in queens so that's because of an election

01:16:49.880 --> 01:16:53.579
year today yeah yeah i would also attribute it

01:16:53.579 --> 01:16:56.159
to that yeah right Trying to clean up before

01:16:56.159 --> 01:16:58.659
November. You fucked us for all this time. Now

01:16:58.659 --> 01:17:00.960
you're trying to make everything rosy. We don't

01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:04.279
forget, people. Exactly. I heard that the city

01:17:04.279 --> 01:17:06.100
council passed that shit that they're trying

01:17:06.100 --> 01:17:09.520
to do to coal -burning pizza ovens. They're going

01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:11.460
to shut them down. Or they're going to have to

01:17:11.460 --> 01:17:13.920
spend a lot of money to make them comply with

01:17:13.920 --> 01:17:18.220
the fucking environmental laws because that's

01:17:18.220 --> 01:17:21.020
what's killing the planet. The coal -fired pizza

01:17:21.020 --> 01:17:23.739
ovens in New York are killing the planet. It's

01:17:23.739 --> 01:17:26.329
fucking ridiculous. It is. It is. It's insanity.

01:17:26.729 --> 01:17:29.909
It is. Just want to fuck small pieces. I can't

01:17:29.909 --> 01:17:32.750
wait to wake up in 10 years and go, yeah, nothing

01:17:32.750 --> 01:17:34.710
much is different. And all you fucking people

01:17:34.710 --> 01:17:36.569
are freaking out saying we're all going to die.

01:17:36.890 --> 01:17:40.649
We are again, because every time with the climate

01:17:40.649 --> 01:17:43.470
crisis bullshit, every time we're going to die,

01:17:43.569 --> 01:17:49.569
we're all going to die. 20 years ago. I want

01:17:49.569 --> 01:17:51.449
to say you can be in truth. And I was kind of

01:17:51.449 --> 01:17:53.350
scared at the time. And then they did the 10

01:17:53.350 --> 01:17:58.250
years later in 2016. Nothing came true. Nothing.

01:17:58.310 --> 01:18:00.229
Not a fucking thing. And people still listen

01:18:00.229 --> 01:18:03.590
to his ass. Right. But, Chad, why are they going

01:18:03.590 --> 01:18:07.189
after, like, small businesses and farmers? Like,

01:18:07.229 --> 01:18:09.989
go after the fucking big corporations that are

01:18:09.989 --> 01:18:13.670
fucking, you know. Well, go after China. Yes.

01:18:14.010 --> 01:18:17.939
Right. And none of the climate activists and

01:18:17.939 --> 01:18:20.319
no one in the world governments goes after China

01:18:20.319 --> 01:18:23.119
and India. They all come after the West. And

01:18:23.119 --> 01:18:24.699
you know why they come after the West? Because

01:18:24.699 --> 01:18:26.420
this is where the money is and they want to bleed

01:18:26.420 --> 01:18:30.640
us all fucking dry. Absolutely. And they want

01:18:30.640 --> 01:18:32.279
to control us and take away our rights. I mean,

01:18:32.340 --> 01:18:36.119
it's crazy. And they want to sit there and tell

01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:38.500
you not to eat meat. You're going to eat bugs.

01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:41.760
And then, you know, they're in Davos having their

01:18:41.760 --> 01:18:44.039
fucking Wagyu beef for dinner and shit. It's

01:18:44.039 --> 01:18:46.140
like they're all complete fucking hypocrites.

01:18:46.340 --> 01:18:52.220
It's all about control. Absolutely. Why, if all

01:18:52.220 --> 01:18:53.859
these elites believe the world's going to end

01:18:53.859 --> 01:18:55.399
and we're all on climate crisis, why are they

01:18:55.399 --> 01:18:58.720
still buying beachfront houses? Right. The Obamas,

01:18:58.739 --> 01:19:01.359
like Bill Gates, like they're buying houses on

01:19:01.359 --> 01:19:03.020
the fucking beach that are going to be underwater

01:19:03.020 --> 01:19:06.020
in 10 years. Okay, that makes sense. Exactly.

01:19:06.810 --> 01:19:09.430
And banks are still giving loans to people in

01:19:09.430 --> 01:19:11.569
coastal areas. Right. Because they know their

01:19:11.569 --> 01:19:13.510
property is going to be destroyed in 10 years.

01:19:13.649 --> 01:19:15.890
Yeah, that makes sense. The banks would not be

01:19:15.890 --> 01:19:18.770
fucking loaning people money to buy a condo on

01:19:18.770 --> 01:19:20.930
the beach in Florida if it was going to be destroyed

01:19:20.930 --> 01:19:23.529
in 10 years. The problem is people don't think

01:19:23.529 --> 01:19:26.550
critically. They do not have critical thinking

01:19:26.550 --> 01:19:30.510
skills. They're not skilled in them. It's by

01:19:30.510 --> 01:19:33.329
design. It's by design. Even if you're not a

01:19:33.329 --> 01:19:36.609
critical thinker, just think. Common sense -ically,

01:19:36.789 --> 01:19:39.770
you know what I'm saying? If you want to be that

01:19:39.770 --> 01:19:41.770
deep with your thinking and stuff, you could

01:19:41.770 --> 01:19:43.850
at least use common sense. That'll get you a

01:19:43.850 --> 01:19:46.390
little bit further than fucking being lost to

01:19:46.390 --> 01:19:49.430
and believing it. You know what I'm saying? But,

01:19:49.449 --> 01:19:51.970
you know, the climate changes. Yes, it does.

01:19:52.710 --> 01:19:56.529
And we should be concentrating on renewables

01:19:56.529 --> 01:19:58.289
and trying to find better energy sources than

01:19:58.289 --> 01:20:01.569
fossil fuels, yes. Are we all going to die in

01:20:01.569 --> 01:20:04.859
10 years? No. Are we going to be fucked in 10

01:20:04.859 --> 01:20:07.699
years? No, we're not. Will a comet probably hit

01:20:07.699 --> 01:20:09.760
us and wipe us out before the climate changes

01:20:09.760 --> 01:20:12.119
to where it's inhabitable? Probably. Well, you

01:20:12.119 --> 01:20:15.220
got Apophis. Apophis, yeah. Apophis, Apophis,

01:20:15.220 --> 01:20:19.840
Apophis, yeah. Yeah. Tomato, tomato. Right. Right.

01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:22.800
So it's going to go, what year is it supposed

01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:25.380
to go? Like 2029 is supposed to, if it hits that

01:20:25.380 --> 01:20:28.560
certain keyhole in space, then seven years is

01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:31.800
coming around and hitting us? Yeah. Oh boy. Yeah.

01:20:32.119 --> 01:20:34.739
They got that system. They got that dart system

01:20:34.739 --> 01:20:36.920
where they launch a missile at it, supposedly

01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:39.439
where they could change course and stuff. But

01:20:39.439 --> 01:20:42.000
I mean, they, I think they shot one and tried

01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:44.220
it, but who the fuck knows how. I wonder when

01:20:44.220 --> 01:20:46.439
they would use that on a promise before it hits

01:20:46.439 --> 01:20:49.640
the keyhole or after it hits the keyhole. Right.

01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:55.579
If it hits the keyhole at all. So, ladies and

01:20:55.579 --> 01:20:58.239
gentlemen, boys and girls, these are just questions

01:20:58.239 --> 01:21:00.819
and stuff that you should be asking or doing

01:21:00.819 --> 01:21:04.720
research into. Like, why are they, you know,

01:21:04.720 --> 01:21:07.899
so gung ho on climate change? And why do they

01:21:07.899 --> 01:21:10.539
want you to not be able to buy a gas vehicle

01:21:10.539 --> 01:21:14.439
in California by 2035 when, you know, not everybody

01:21:14.439 --> 01:21:17.399
can afford an electric vehicle? Elites can and

01:21:17.399 --> 01:21:20.600
they don't want the, you know, lower class, middle

01:21:20.600 --> 01:21:23.550
class to be able to. have these things that these

01:21:23.550 --> 01:21:26.350
entitled people think that that should be. So

01:21:26.350 --> 01:21:29.430
there's a lot of things that go into laws they

01:21:29.430 --> 01:21:31.989
make and they sound good on paper, but they're

01:21:31.989 --> 01:21:34.789
shady as fuck in reality. So it's like we need

01:21:34.789 --> 01:21:37.489
to wake up as a society and really start looking

01:21:37.489 --> 01:21:39.970
into why they're putting shit out like that.

01:21:40.050 --> 01:21:45.229
You know, as an American, as a citizen, you should.

01:21:45.659 --> 01:21:47.920
educate yourself on some of these things to know

01:21:47.920 --> 01:21:50.239
why they're trying to mislead us and put us down

01:21:50.239 --> 01:21:52.779
a path that doesn't make sense because it doesn't

01:21:52.779 --> 01:21:55.899
make sense. Don't do your own research. That's

01:21:55.899 --> 01:21:59.159
bad. Don't read stuff. Right. Why would you want

01:21:59.159 --> 01:22:02.039
to do that? You said it perfectly. You got to

01:22:02.039 --> 01:22:04.619
question the narrative. You've got to question

01:22:04.619 --> 01:22:07.140
the narrative. Every time they're pushing a narrative,

01:22:07.260 --> 01:22:09.880
you have to question what the narrative is being

01:22:09.880 --> 01:22:13.489
pushed and why. When they don't want us talking

01:22:13.489 --> 01:22:16.149
about things and asking questions, it's because

01:22:16.149 --> 01:22:18.350
they're doing shady shit. Like, you know, when

01:22:18.350 --> 01:22:21.390
you're trying to, during COVID, stifle conversations

01:22:21.390 --> 01:22:24.289
about, well, maybe this vaccine is causing harm

01:22:24.289 --> 01:22:27.750
or, you know, mRNA is not good to go in your

01:22:27.750 --> 01:22:29.930
body. It could fuck with your DNA. Like, why

01:22:29.930 --> 01:22:32.750
can't you talk about that if it's not the case?

01:22:33.930 --> 01:22:35.729
It seems like you're trying to shut us up so

01:22:35.729 --> 01:22:38.210
people don't get hip to what's actually going

01:22:38.210 --> 01:22:40.789
on. The ultimate motivation for all of it is

01:22:40.789 --> 01:22:44.529
generally money or power or both. Right. Right.

01:22:44.529 --> 01:22:47.289
So you always follow the money. Just follow the

01:22:47.289 --> 01:22:49.430
money. You'll find out what the fuck is really

01:22:49.430 --> 01:22:53.109
going on. And fuck Anthony Fauci. I'll say it

01:22:53.109 --> 01:22:55.069
here and I'll say it to his face, that prick.

01:22:55.850 --> 01:22:58.310
But ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, it

01:22:58.310 --> 01:23:00.789
has been our pleasure to have the gracious to,

01:23:00.890 --> 01:23:03.970
you know, talking to you guys this week. I hope

01:23:03.970 --> 01:23:07.449
you enjoyed this guest. Please check chatting

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01:23:41.810 --> 01:23:45.250
for those who have not seen are so fucking cool,

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man. To see the man. that came up with these

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beats and put them you know music to cds and

01:23:51.960 --> 01:23:54.819
stuff like that to see how he does it is fucking

01:23:54.819 --> 01:23:58.619
cool as hell to watch uh for for fans and and

01:23:58.619 --> 01:24:01.659
for drummers like it's just very cool to see

01:24:01.659 --> 01:24:03.319
man i want to thank you for doing that for all

01:24:03.319 --> 01:24:06.220
of us hey well thank you for watching i that's

01:24:06.220 --> 01:24:08.460
exactly why i mean i mostly did it for drummers

01:24:08.460 --> 01:24:10.560
that were wanting to learn you know how to play

01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:13.159
live songs so they can visually see because it's

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something i'd always wanted wanted to do like

01:24:16.239 --> 01:24:19.079
the guy playing the part, like Dave Ball or Dan

01:24:19.079 --> 01:24:23.859
Carey, whatever, and Matt Cannon. But, yeah,

01:24:23.979 --> 01:24:26.159
the channel, I have over 1 ,000 subscribers.

01:24:26.859 --> 01:24:30.119
I just hit that milestone, which is great. You

01:24:30.119 --> 01:24:31.920
know, paltry in the world of YouTube, but I'm

01:24:31.920 --> 01:24:34.439
excited about it. And then my last two videos

01:24:34.439 --> 01:24:37.319
have gone, like, over 90 ,000 views. I love it,

01:24:37.319 --> 01:24:40.020
man. This is great. So I'm about ready to put

01:24:40.020 --> 01:24:41.939
out my third video, which is going to be, you

01:24:41.939 --> 01:24:43.380
know, I think I'm going to put out Lightning

01:24:43.380 --> 01:24:48.300
Crashes next. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah. The first

01:24:48.300 --> 01:24:51.199
two minutes I don't do anything. So right. Yeah.

01:24:51.699 --> 01:24:54.220
Jamming the heartbeat of live ladies and gentlemen,

01:24:54.220 --> 01:24:56.479
check out what he's doing. Don't get discouraged

01:24:56.479 --> 01:24:58.779
if you're starting off and can't do it, or even

01:24:58.779 --> 01:25:00.779
if you're a professional drummer and can't do

01:25:00.779 --> 01:25:03.399
it because the man lays down some sick ass complicated

01:25:03.399 --> 01:25:06.439
stuff that sounds beautiful and makes it look

01:25:06.439 --> 01:25:08.439
easy. That's, that's the thing about you, Chad,

01:25:08.520 --> 01:25:10.560
when you're playing these drums and you got your

01:25:10.560 --> 01:25:12.359
head down and you're fucking rocking out, man.

01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:15.300
You make it look easy, even though you're all

01:25:15.300 --> 01:25:17.579
over the map on that kit, dude. It's fucking

01:25:17.579 --> 01:25:20.159
impressive to watch, man. Thank you. Well, I

01:25:20.159 --> 01:25:23.180
think a lot of great drummers make it look easy.

01:25:23.680 --> 01:25:26.840
True. Carter Beaufort's blowing bubbles up there.

01:25:27.380 --> 01:25:30.680
Watch Danny Carey play. He's like, it looks easy,

01:25:30.739 --> 01:25:35.380
but it's fucking not. No, no, no. No way. All

01:25:35.380 --> 01:25:38.460
right, ladies and gentlemen, check out Chad Gracie's

01:25:38.460 --> 01:25:40.979
YouTube page. Check us out and keep coming back

01:25:40.979 --> 01:25:44.260
week after week. We enjoy your presence. We enjoy

01:25:44.260 --> 01:25:47.960
everybody listening. And peace in the Middle

01:25:47.960 --> 01:25:49.920
East. Thanks, everyone. Take care.