The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 040 - Dave Krusen of Pearl Jam's Ten

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And we are live. ladies and gentlemen the gracious

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two look at us look at us sup everybody broadcasting

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live from 210 york street hello yes this is uh

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this is cool we're so we're not in the studio

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um either studio studio a or b but we set up

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in this cool little uh lounge area and stuff

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um that's my room right behind me yeah hey that's

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where mr gracey sleeps ladies so if you want

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to Come check it out. Show you the digs. It's

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very nice in this place. Very comfortable. It's

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set up for like perfectly to be recording musicians

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and, you know, podcasts and stuff like that.

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If you're recording an album, there's like different

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apartments and stuff you could stay at, you know,

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this way you could just wake up, go into the

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studio, record when the music strikes, when,

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you know, when all that jazz happens. So it's

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like a really. Beautiful studio set up for state

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-of -the -art equipment, sound, and all that

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stuff. Doing like a studio advertisement. I know.

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Don't know why, but wanted to let the audience

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know how fucking cool it is. Well, we set it

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up just the way you explained it, as the kind

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of studio we would like to go to. Some studios

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we've been to like this, but not with actual

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rooms attached to the studio where you can stay.

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Anyway. Right. You normally only get that if

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it's a home studio or something like that. Yeah,

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this is dope the way that you guys set it up.

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We got a treat for the audience. We actually

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didn't discuss, Chad, which ones to play, but

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it's going to be an unreleased Gracious Fuse

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song, if that's okay. Chad? Yeah, let's play

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it. What are you playing? Let's see which ones

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I got here. The Depeche Mode cover is pretty

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cool. So I got Labor of Love and It's No Good.

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It's No Good is a Depeche Mode cover, but Labor

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of Love is good too. Let's go with the Depeche

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Mode. Sorry, everybody. I got a little bit of

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allergy, so dealing with some mucus. Right next

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to me. Thank you. My cat Gracie on over here.

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You're on my mic now. Okay, so we were hearing

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that the sound wasn't as good as we, like it

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sounded in our headphones, but it should be.

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So I don't know if it's because of a Wi -Fi connection

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coming out, but so then on the replay, people,

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it will be the correct sound that we heard through

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our audio, but I guess that's the live stream.

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I guess mom is watching on Facebook Live. Um,

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but once that, if the replay goes through, it'll

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sound like we heard it in here, which was fucking

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the studio sound of it. Right. Um, let me make

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sure all that's, uh, down now, but, oh my God,

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dude, that was, that was so cool to hear the

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studio version of, uh, the gracious view doing

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a Depeche mode cover. Um, the first time I got

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to hear it that way, like I've heard, uh, Bill

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was playing it for us yesterday, uh, over the

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sound system, but to hear it in headphones like

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that. Mr. Gracie. Do you guys see me trying to

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get my inner Gracie on? He pulled me and stuff,

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but I don't look as cool as him while he's doing

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it. Check your text. Sure. Surely, surely. Also,

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you didn't get these. Oh, that's right. I didn't,

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Dave. Dave Foley out there from Beverly Hills

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Cop 3. You guys know who I'm talking about? Dave

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Foley. Nice. Yes. Yes. A little birdie. dropped

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those into my email. So that's how we were able

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to hear those today. Remember that folks, you'd

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got it exclusive gracious to of the gracious

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few and God had just sprinkled that into my email.

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So perfect though. Sorry about the sound folks

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on the replay. It will sound better, but that

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was a little treat for the audience. Chad, we

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got Mr. Dave cruising coming on today. Big stuff.

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Big stuff is right. I'm excited. Dave's a super

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cool guy. Amazing drummer. Of course, the legendary

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first drummer of Pearl Jam on 10. Amazing. Amazing,

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man. Like we were saying yesterday, Black, the

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beats on there is such a good song. The whole

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album start to finish is another one like back

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in the 90s. Alive, even flow. I mean, come on.

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Yes. Jeremy. When bands were making real albums,

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Chad, it wasn't just about a pop single that

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came out. You could put on an album, go start

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to finish, and really like... get lost in the

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music man yeah absolutely uh all about that don't

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even want to tell you how many times i got lost

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in the throwing copper and all the uh you know

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experience i've had with that with some lady

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friends putting it on damon otter creek starting

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it off as we're doing our little make out session

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working our way through the album and then when

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stage came on and my cardio and resting to the

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beat yes and it was a good short song so i felt

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like if i could make it through it that i was

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a very big stamina guy and nice jokes people

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i uh can only last two minutes in bed um hey

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now sorry sorry mom if you're listening uh you

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know i know you don't like to hear my stories

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uh but don't mind me folks so yeah what a great

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what a great night we had last night we did the

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insta live show which was so fucking fun uh that

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was great it was a fun one it was a fun one had

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some nice bourbon on there the audience was interacting

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really good so uh don't forget to check those

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out uh weekly the insta live shows we only go

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live on there we usually let you know day of

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around what time we're doing it And it's audience

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participation. Whoever wants to click in, join

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the broadcast, they can. And remember, like,

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follow, and share. And comment. Yeah. Please.

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And what did you say, Chad? You got some stuff.

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We're going to do some cool giveaways for the

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audience. Mental jewelry, original records. So

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we're going to have an audience kind of contest

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where you guys are going to like and share a

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post that we have. And whoever gets the most

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likes on their share form of it is going to win

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a nice mental jewelry original record. So you

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heard it here first. We're going to post the

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details more coherent and stuff like that for

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you. So you kind of know exactly how to do it

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and how long the contest is going to last for

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and how you could win. But some cool stuff for

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the audience out here. Oh, Chad, those, uh, the

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drum, the drum, uh, what are they called? The

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heads of those, of the bass drums that you have,

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uh, drum heads. Yeah. Kick drum heads. He's got

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ones from, I guess they're from the tours of

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that, right? So yeah, there's the distance here.

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The TGF, the gracious few head, um, the five

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head from album five and what else? Birds of

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prey. I think it's down there. Birds of prey.

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Yeah. And they're fricking so cool. The, uh,

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Now, did you have to, like, were those ones that

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you used in concert? Or, like, how does that

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work when you travel with a kit? Like, if one

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of them got messed up, did you have a backup

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to put in? Well, probably the Rortys had backups,

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but, yeah, it's just the front kick head. So

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the kick drum goes in a nice case, travels in

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the road cases, and they're pretty safe in there

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unless something catastrophic happens, like a

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forklift blade goes through the whole thing or

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something. And are they, because I've seen ones

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where... You know, like they have like the zip

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up around it and stuff like that. Yeah, we use

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those for travel gigs. But when we're on or when

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we're on tour, you know, with the real life,

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we use road cases. Yes. And I saw on with the

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real life, you had the all the boxes and stuff,

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had your band logo on it. And, you know, cool

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stuff like that. It was. Yeah. Legit. When you

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watch those soundboard people. From any venue

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you go to, man, and they're twisting these little

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knobs up like the sound engineer, I guess, at

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the soundboard. Yeah, we call them front of house.

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Front of house. It's amazing. I'm like, how is

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this dude keeping track of all that? He seems

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to know when that air... Well, that's why you

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do sound check and you dial all that stuff in

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and then it's already set. So he's just adjusting

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small things for the venue, the particular venue,

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because every venue is acoustically a little

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different. So he'll change stuff. And then throughout

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the show, there might be some feedback here and

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there or something that he has to take care of.

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And then he adjusts for certain songs as well.

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Okay. Because I would, you know, sometimes make

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my way, you know, whether I'm going to the bathroom

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or something and like get by the soundboard and

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see like the sound engineer doing stuff. And

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I'm like, how does he know? They'll probably

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be replaced by AI soon. Definitely. Unfortunately.

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Yeah. where they're going to be able to in real

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time here, where they got to adjust something

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and, you know, probably better. I actually just

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thought of that as we were speaking about it.

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It's like another AI thing that can be done by

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a computer. It's fucked up. I mean, there's going

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to be lots of, we don't even know, we can't even

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tell the breadth of AI, what it's going to affect,

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you know, as far as businesses and personnel.

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And jobs lost. They're saying that it's going

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to originally. get rid of like a shit ton of

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jobs, but then end up creating more in the long

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run because it's creating industry. Right. But

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what is it creating? Like, is it creating fucking

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like physical labor job in the factory to build

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the robots? Right. Right. Great. Cause that's

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the only thing I could think of. Like if they're

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going to be able to do like all stuff, that's

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reactionary time for humans and you know, sound

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levels and stuff like that. It's like, What are

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they leaving us to pick up furniture and move

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it here for them? And I mean, we remember the

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beginning of the internet. We were old enough

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that we were there at the beginning and was like,

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what the fuck is this? Like who's going to use

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this? You know? Yep. What do you do with this?

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And now look at it. And that's, that's, that's

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how we are with AI right now. It's just like,

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we don't, we can't even fathom. How it's going

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to change things. Yeah. You remember chat rooms

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and stuff, Chad? Like when you, like Prodigy

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and AOL chat rooms, like that was like so cool

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to be in there and chatting it up and shit. And

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it's like, you kind of thought that was the...

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Bobby's saying wait till AGI. What is AGI, Bobby?

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I heard someone talking about this the other

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day. It's when it becomes completely ascension.

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Yeah, what does it stand for? Oh. What does AGI

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stand for, Bobby? Yeah, Bobby. Artificial Guaranteed

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Intelligence. Artificial. Artifices. Artificial

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general intelligence. Oh, interesting. Very cool.

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Bob Bay. Artificial general is another form of.

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Not general. Not general. Is that a D or a G?

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Is that Pam? Is there a B on the end of it? Is

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it an M or an N? A spam. Is that pan? Are you

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saying pan? Also, Chad, so. If you could check

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your email, because I sent it to Cruz and stuff,

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and I CC'd you on it. I just want to make sure

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that that came through. Yeah, I got that email.

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Okay. So maybe he's just a little busy at the

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moment. Let me hit him up on Instagram. Did you

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not send him like another confirmation? No, he

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did. So remember we confirmed with him on the

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last one. So the last confirmation I sent with

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him. Give me one second. Cool. It was on the

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22nd. I said, hey, Dave, I heard we're back on

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for June 24th. Oh, wait. For June 4th. I want

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to confirm. Hope all is well. And then he wrote

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back. and said yes and then i said you're on

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the schedule so that was you know this was after

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he had said that uh he couldn't because he got

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busy with the tour uh oh here he's coming in

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now there we go hey now text them on uh our live

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show yes our live show folks this is how we do

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it and how it works you know like uh we uh sometimes

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It's not pre -recorded and put out there, so

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you get to see all our timing issues and all

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that jazz. Dave's coming on now. He'll have to

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turn on his video and unmute. If he doesn't have

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video, I'm not sure. But you could just unmute

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when you get a chance, Dave. And we are excited

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to have you on the show. Talk about some of the

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cool bands you've been a part of and all that

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jazz. Unified Theory being one. Pearl Jam being

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another. Of course. It's connecting. Connecting.

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I sing sometimes when, you know, I'm filling

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air. And I don't have the great voice, but I

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have a decent voice for myself. Sing it in the

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rain. All right. And so, yeah, we're going to

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have Bob A's World at the end of this as well.

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He just said, did we see the NYSE glitching yesterday?

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No, didn't notice that. Who's that, Bobby? Yeah.

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Berkshire was down 99. Oh, boy. Oh, is he on?

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Got a checkmark. I see. So ask to unmute. Berkshire

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was down 99%. What? Fully tested Tuesday. Yeah,

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at one point it was down 99%. It was a glitch

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with the New York Stock Exchange. Did you buy

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into that? That's crazy. Hey, what's up, Dave?

00:17:41.299 --> 00:17:47.859
Dave. Hey. What is going on? Sorry, I had to

00:17:47.859 --> 00:17:50.839
ask our Bob A to mute himself because he starts

00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:54.380
yapping. What's up, Dave? How are you guys doing?

00:17:54.740 --> 00:17:56.799
Good, man. It's a pleasure. It's been a long

00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:02.559
time. Yeah, no doubt, man. At least if I can

00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:06.200
get this plugged in. Can you hear us okay, Dave?

00:18:08.299 --> 00:18:12.180
Hang on. Say something. There we go. Yeah. Can

00:18:12.180 --> 00:18:15.359
you hear me? Absolutely. Perfect. Cool. Great.

00:18:15.619 --> 00:18:18.180
Well, thanks again for coming on. Like I said,

00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:20.619
it's been a long time. Yeah. Thanks for having

00:18:20.619 --> 00:18:24.259
me. Absolutely. And for me, the non -drummer

00:18:24.259 --> 00:18:27.019
in the room, this is like fucking epic status

00:18:27.019 --> 00:18:30.619
over here to have, you know, the original founding

00:18:30.619 --> 00:18:33.380
member of Live on here, and then the original

00:18:33.380 --> 00:18:37.119
drummer from Pearl Jam 10 on here is absolutely

00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:40.480
legendary. So bear with my, you know, if I seem

00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:42.599
like in a daze here, it's just because I'm in

00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:44.660
awe of all the music you guys have been a part

00:18:44.660 --> 00:18:47.480
of and created. Very cool. Thanks, man. Thank

00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:50.279
you. And yeah, I mean, it was great to have,

00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:52.880
I love Unified Theory. That band was so cool.

00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:56.460
Oh yeah, right on. That was so fun touring, man.

00:18:56.619 --> 00:18:59.109
Yeah, that was great. What was that? I was just,

00:18:59.109 --> 00:19:01.269
I was just divorced and I was going crazy and

00:19:01.269 --> 00:19:05.410
we were having a great time on the road. I was

00:19:05.410 --> 00:19:08.490
a latecomer to my theory, man. I didn't realize

00:19:08.490 --> 00:19:10.710
what a cool album that, that was you guys put

00:19:10.710 --> 00:19:14.490
out until it was maybe like a year or two ago

00:19:14.490 --> 00:19:17.809
after like, I realized Christian was the singer

00:19:17.809 --> 00:19:19.569
of it and stuff. And then I heard a song from

00:19:19.569 --> 00:19:21.410
there. I'm like, how the fuck did I not know

00:19:21.410 --> 00:19:24.329
about this band from back in the day? and uh

00:19:24.329 --> 00:19:26.849
listen that's another album start to finish you

00:19:26.849 --> 00:19:29.589
go through and it's just like it they flow into

00:19:29.589 --> 00:19:31.849
each other and they rock and stuff like that

00:19:31.849 --> 00:19:36.750
it could have done a lot better i think if we

00:19:36.750 --> 00:19:38.869
could have stuck it out a little longer yeah

00:19:38.869 --> 00:19:42.829
yeah that's that's the thing you can make great

00:19:42.829 --> 00:19:45.390
records but you know all kinds of things can

00:19:45.390 --> 00:19:47.549
go wrong the record company is not giving the

00:19:47.549 --> 00:19:50.750
proper support or whatever yeah that's crazy

00:19:52.580 --> 00:19:55.019
With Christian and Chris Thorne and Brad Smith.

00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:59.759
Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. All great. All great.

00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:03.079
Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, I always say Chris Thorne

00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:04.740
is from Dover right up the road here from New

00:20:04.740 --> 00:20:06.059
York. I'm in New York right now, Pennsylvania.

00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:08.880
So. Oh, you are right on. Yes, sir. Chad, that

00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:12.740
was the guy when you, in 1998, you guys were

00:20:12.740 --> 00:20:15.420
like putting out the distance here, but you,

00:20:15.460 --> 00:20:17.539
before you put it out, you were doing like concerts

00:20:17.539 --> 00:20:20.180
and stuff, but. smaller venues and i think chris

00:20:20.180 --> 00:20:22.579
dorn was playing like slide guitar or yeah he

00:20:22.579 --> 00:20:25.059
played some shows with us and he actually played

00:20:25.059 --> 00:20:27.759
on the record too distance to hear a couple songs

00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:31.839
so yeah that's right now we our our very first

00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:35.000
nationwide tour was with big audio dynamite uh

00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:37.460
public image limited and then us and then blind

00:20:37.460 --> 00:20:41.579
melon so how cool oh wow no that's cool we didn't

00:20:41.579 --> 00:20:45.180
know chris before we you know or with blind melon

00:20:45.180 --> 00:20:47.319
we're like you're from dover what the hell so

00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:52.140
small world yeah small world so cool uh why go

00:20:52.140 --> 00:20:54.960
man sorry about the why if i get loud at the

00:20:54.960 --> 00:20:56.920
other mic pick me up someone but why go dude

00:20:56.920 --> 00:21:01.980
the drumming on that is just fucking so uh hardcore

00:21:01.980 --> 00:21:07.059
fast paced but like really um I don't know, just

00:21:07.059 --> 00:21:10.319
like on point with it. How did you come about

00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:12.319
with that drum part? Was this a song you heard

00:21:12.319 --> 00:21:14.980
kind of fully fleshed? Was this something that

00:21:14.980 --> 00:21:19.680
was developed in the studio? I just really played

00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:23.140
off the bass line, you know, where Jeff was playing.

00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:26.880
Just kind of, you know, tried to fit in that

00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:30.720
track right there. Yeah, man, nailed it. The

00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:34.099
music from the 90s is, you know, something...

00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:37.720
a force to be reckoned with. It's like, uh, it's

00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:41.140
like my favorite decade for music. Um, you know,

00:21:41.140 --> 00:21:42.960
because you, if you, if you listen, you go from

00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:45.160
like the forties, fifties and stuff like that,

00:21:45.180 --> 00:21:47.420
you're like, what is this like kind of bubble

00:21:47.420 --> 00:21:51.039
gum, Mr. Sandman bring me a drink, you know,

00:21:51.039 --> 00:21:53.319
like stuff like that. And then, you know, in

00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:55.599
the sixties, seventies, you just see this change

00:21:55.599 --> 00:21:57.940
in rock and roll from like Jimi Hendrix, the

00:21:57.940 --> 00:22:01.880
doors, Janice Joplin. And then in the, 80s it

00:22:01.880 --> 00:22:05.299
like kind of got a little kind of um i don't

00:22:05.299 --> 00:22:07.480
know maybe too commercial or something like that

00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:11.319
it was hair metal yeah yeah yeah eyeliners and

00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:13.380
stuff like that and then in the 90s some of the

00:22:13.380 --> 00:22:15.480
bands that came out of their pearl jam being

00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:18.019
one of them live being one of them sound garden

00:22:18.019 --> 00:22:21.440
being one of them spans like silver chair blind

00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:25.099
melon it's like just the music scene was just

00:22:25.099 --> 00:22:27.759
really starting to come alive again and like

00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:30.710
uh be like real music and getting back to like

00:22:30.710 --> 00:22:37.529
full albums and stuff. What was your, how was

00:22:37.529 --> 00:22:40.829
the creative process for Pearl Jam back then?

00:22:40.910 --> 00:22:42.710
Like, did you guys get in a room and write the

00:22:42.710 --> 00:22:44.650
songs together or did they record all the tracks

00:22:44.650 --> 00:22:46.710
and then you came in or like how that worked?

00:22:47.269 --> 00:22:51.390
They had a lot of songs. Stone had some songs,

00:22:51.450 --> 00:22:54.210
they did some demos. So those are kind of fleshed

00:22:54.210 --> 00:22:58.200
out. Okay. And then. got a little more solidified

00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:01.160
once we got together sure as a group and and

00:23:01.160 --> 00:23:06.940
um and eddie came up and so um but they had pretty

00:23:06.940 --> 00:23:11.000
much been written um i can't remember how many

00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:15.119
maybe four or five that he had and but yeah we

00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:19.880
did we tracked live in the studio you know he

00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:23.119
was in a vocal booth amps were all separated

00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:26.400
out and and we were in the room together playing

00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:28.960
yeah the best way that's what we did too with

00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:32.339
all the records i mean just where'd you guys

00:23:32.339 --> 00:23:36.799
record oh we recorded mental jewelry in milwaukee

00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:39.259
in a guy's house studio because jerry harrison

00:23:39.259 --> 00:23:42.200
the guy the guitar yeah he was a producer he

00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:48.359
lived in milwaukee at the time and buddy um dave

00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:50.660
i can't remember his name he's dave too He was

00:23:50.660 --> 00:23:52.720
the studio owner and he was the engineer. So

00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:54.980
we recorded in his house. David Schwimmer. Yeah,

00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:57.819
David Schwimmer. And then for Throwing Copper,

00:23:57.920 --> 00:24:00.519
we went to Packaderm Studio outside of Cannon

00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:03.500
Falls, Minnesota. And actually, Nirvana recorded

00:24:03.500 --> 00:24:07.579
in Udoro there. Oh, shit. Before us. Wow. And

00:24:07.579 --> 00:24:12.960
then Secret Samadhi, we recorded in some in LA,

00:24:13.220 --> 00:24:16.880
some in New York City at the, what was the big

00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:19.599
studio there? in new york city that's gone now

00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:22.099
it's made it they made it into condos oh god

00:24:22.099 --> 00:24:26.019
um what was it i can't remember the name of it

00:24:26.019 --> 00:24:28.440
damn it anyway someone remind me yeah this is

00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:30.460
here we recorded in la at the i guess it's now

00:24:30.460 --> 00:24:34.099
jim henson studio it used to be a and m no and

00:24:34.099 --> 00:24:36.380
what about jamaica chad for uh well that was

00:24:36.380 --> 00:24:38.839
a writing session for secret somebody went there

00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:41.400
for a writing session yeah so so dave i don't

00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:43.559
know if you know this story uh or or have heard

00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:46.329
it somewhere through the grapevine but uh uh

00:24:46.329 --> 00:24:48.509
they were lakini's juice and stuff as they were

00:24:48.509 --> 00:24:51.849
coming up with that song they were uh like playing

00:24:51.849 --> 00:24:54.809
i guess at a hotel resort or something in jamaica

00:24:54.809 --> 00:24:58.730
and uh i i heard that ed was out on a balcony

00:24:58.730 --> 00:25:02.349
just kind of like singing lyrics over uh no we

00:25:02.349 --> 00:25:05.750
were in the house where we were oh oh okay yeah

00:25:05.750 --> 00:25:07.970
but anyway go ahead son sorry my bad it's but

00:25:07.970 --> 00:25:10.039
it seemed like kind of people could have just

00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:12.240
been walking by kind of hearing you guys like

00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:14.640
writing this music and stuff like that. And you

00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:16.079
know, if you're, if you're playing loud enough

00:25:16.079 --> 00:25:18.180
and stuff. So it's like, I was just like, Holy

00:25:18.180 --> 00:25:20.420
shit. Could you imagine you're in Jamaica somewhere?

00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:23.519
And then you all of a sudden you hear live kind

00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:25.519
of fleshing out tunes and stuff and you don't

00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:28.779
realize like what they're doing, like how fucking

00:25:28.779 --> 00:25:33.319
cool is that? But I think most people in there

00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:35.759
knew who we were. We did see one live shirt in

00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:39.210
downtown Montego Bay, but it's so funny when

00:25:39.210 --> 00:25:41.609
you talk to people about live because you know

00:25:41.609 --> 00:25:42.990
i'll be like oh you know the band live they'll

00:25:42.990 --> 00:25:44.970
be like no you know i'm like come on yes you

00:25:44.970 --> 00:25:48.269
do you know like lightning crashes uh the dolphin

00:25:48.269 --> 00:25:50.190
uh you know stuff like that and they're like

00:25:50.190 --> 00:25:52.369
i don't know i'm like well let me play you a

00:25:52.369 --> 00:25:54.089
song and then as soon as you played like oh yeah

00:25:54.089 --> 00:25:56.869
of course i know that song okay that's live uh

00:25:56.869 --> 00:25:58.950
play all over you oh of course i know that song

00:25:58.950 --> 00:26:01.089
yeah that's live like they don't realize and

00:26:01.089 --> 00:26:03.069
hadn't put two two together that they know like

00:26:03.069 --> 00:26:05.569
20 songs but they didn't realize the name of

00:26:05.569 --> 00:26:07.849
the band and stuff it's It's just hysterical

00:26:07.849 --> 00:26:09.470
that, you know, people could kind of do that.

00:26:09.609 --> 00:26:11.849
So Dave, how did, uh, how did the unified theory

00:26:11.849 --> 00:26:13.789
come together? Like how'd you meet those guys?

00:26:13.809 --> 00:26:18.390
And that was, I was actually in Cannavox at the

00:26:18.390 --> 00:26:23.329
time. I lived down this way. Yeah. Me and Christopher

00:26:23.329 --> 00:26:27.250
live near each other in Seattle. Okay. And Kevin

00:26:27.250 --> 00:26:32.569
Cannavox singer, Christopher recorded some stuff

00:26:32.569 --> 00:26:36.000
I did in this band, Diamond Star Halo. So that's

00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:37.619
when I met Christopher, and that was probably

00:26:37.619 --> 00:26:43.839
94, I think. And then I ended up in Candlebox

00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:49.000
a couple years later. And when we were about

00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:53.559
to go on tour, Brad actually called me and invited

00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:59.920
me down to play on a tune. And then I think we

00:26:59.920 --> 00:27:02.140
were leaving for tour at Candlebox about a week

00:27:02.140 --> 00:27:05.079
later, a few days later. So I went down and did

00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:10.579
two songs, did Passive and, oh, what was the

00:27:10.579 --> 00:27:14.680
other one? We did two songs, Cessna and Passive.

00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:19.839
And then Brad's like, come on down and, you know,

00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:21.940
do some more work. I said, I got to go on tour.

00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:24.759
And he was like, what? And I said, he knew I

00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:28.890
was in Candlebox. It's kind of funny. So I went

00:27:28.890 --> 00:27:32.029
on tour, and at that point, Candlebox was, and

00:27:32.029 --> 00:27:33.730
then they worked with a bunch of other drummers,

00:27:34.589 --> 00:27:37.869
Brian, Christopher, and Chris, or two or three

00:27:37.869 --> 00:27:43.549
other guys. And then at that time, 98, Candlebox

00:27:43.549 --> 00:27:47.210
was really struggling to keep it together, really.

00:27:47.309 --> 00:27:50.190
They were, you know, a lot of just frustration.

00:27:51.309 --> 00:27:53.950
And Pete was still in the band, yeah? Yeah, it

00:27:53.950 --> 00:27:56.289
was all the original guys except for me. Got

00:27:56.289 --> 00:28:01.339
it. And then it just kind of, you know, it just

00:28:01.339 --> 00:28:06.099
kind of fell apart. It was pretty intense out

00:28:06.099 --> 00:28:09.539
there. So I was home and then started working

00:28:09.539 --> 00:28:12.599
with those guys again, did a few more songs.

00:28:12.619 --> 00:28:17.160
And that kind of ramped into, let's play for

00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:19.859
some labels kind of thing. So I think we did

00:28:19.859 --> 00:28:21.980
a, and we were playing shows in Seattle. And

00:28:21.980 --> 00:28:26.589
then we went to LA, went to New York. And it

00:28:26.589 --> 00:28:31.269
just kind of, you know, and then they had recorded,

00:28:31.349 --> 00:28:33.690
I don't know how many songs with other drummers,

00:28:33.730 --> 00:28:39.150
maybe four or five songs with some other guys.

00:28:39.349 --> 00:28:43.269
Is that all you on the record? No, it's me and

00:28:43.269 --> 00:28:46.170
like three other guys. Oh, I see. Okay. Wow.

00:28:46.410 --> 00:28:50.730
Yeah. Got it. That was like, I'm sorry, Dave.

00:28:51.650 --> 00:28:54.400
Keep going. I'm sorry. No, I was just, that's

00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:57.400
pretty much it. They, um, they just kind of pieced

00:28:57.400 --> 00:29:01.579
it together. And then we went to Vancouver to

00:29:01.579 --> 00:29:06.539
mix and, uh, yeah, that, that was, that's how

00:29:06.539 --> 00:29:09.720
that kind of all got together. That was like

00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:13.599
for Nirvana's, uh, first album bleach for a long

00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:15.900
time. You didn't know that it was, uh, I guess

00:29:15.900 --> 00:29:19.599
Channing, uh, Chad Channing, that was the drummer

00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:23.180
on it. Um, But I think there was kind of multiple

00:29:23.180 --> 00:29:26.660
drummers on that album, but everybody assumed

00:29:26.660 --> 00:29:29.359
it was Dave Grohl, I guess, because one Nevermind

00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:31.400
hit, he was like the drummer for. You can tell

00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:34.299
it's not Dave Grohl. Well, yes. Going back now,

00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:36.200
like you hear it, you could totally see the difference.

00:29:36.259 --> 00:29:38.299
But, you know, as a kid, listen, I was like,

00:29:38.339 --> 00:29:40.500
oh, I guess Dave Grohl on the drums there. I

00:29:40.500 --> 00:29:43.000
didn't I didn't know. And then you turn out it

00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:45.180
was Chad Channing or something. But I think there

00:29:45.180 --> 00:29:46.980
might have been multiple people on that album.

00:29:47.059 --> 00:29:50.069
But yeah, the difference between Grohl's. just

00:29:50.069 --> 00:29:52.990
like loud, aggressive style and just still like

00:29:52.990 --> 00:29:55.950
fucking jazzy with it on upbeats, downbeats,

00:29:56.009 --> 00:29:59.230
whatever. It was just a totally different, you

00:29:59.230 --> 00:30:01.849
know, different beast and stuff. Oh, Grohl's

00:30:01.849 --> 00:30:06.029
just so solid. It's ridiculous. Yeah. Absolutely.

00:30:06.769 --> 00:30:09.609
I wonder if we would have ever gotten to know

00:30:09.609 --> 00:30:12.910
Dave Grohl's Foo Fighters side had, you know,

00:30:12.950 --> 00:30:15.930
Nirvana ever stopped being a band. Because I

00:30:15.930 --> 00:30:20.460
know he did. like one song that was like unreleased

00:30:20.460 --> 00:30:24.140
on a b -side um in nirvana i think was called

00:30:24.140 --> 00:30:25.920
marigold or something like that where it was

00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:27.759
just an acoustic guitar and dave roll singing

00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:31.440
marigold yeah so it was um but you know you didn't

00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:33.559
know that he had all these other songs in him

00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:35.279
and stuff like that or i didn't know if like

00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:37.759
kurt wrote that song and dave was playing on

00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:40.099
it so it's like it's it's kind of crazy to uh

00:30:40.099 --> 00:30:44.000
to have you know him go from nirvana to foo fighters

00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:47.079
and two successful bands and he had all those

00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:48.900
songs in his head and maybe we would have never

00:30:48.900 --> 00:30:51.519
got to hear him had nirvana just continued to

00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:54.519
be so it's like crazy just how world works out

00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:57.880
and stuff like that so dave you do you play uh

00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:01.900
guitar and write songs yourself i dabble with

00:31:01.900 --> 00:31:04.759
other instruments cool i would definitely call

00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:07.180
it just dabbling but it's fun you know i've kind

00:31:07.180 --> 00:31:10.380
of always done that but never really had the

00:31:10.380 --> 00:31:15.259
time to you know, get farther in. And so now

00:31:15.259 --> 00:31:17.599
in the last few years since COVID hit, I've just

00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:21.779
been home, you know, putting around the house

00:31:21.779 --> 00:31:26.059
and yeah, it's been fun, man. I just, I've got

00:31:26.059 --> 00:31:28.660
some more gear, you know, I keep kind of adding

00:31:28.660 --> 00:31:31.960
some stuff and you do with gear. I just built

00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:35.440
this room. I just moved back to gig Harbor where

00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:38.960
I grew up. I'm actually down the street from

00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:40.579
the house I grew up in, which is part of the

00:31:40.579 --> 00:31:43.079
trip. But I just moved back. You can be treated.

00:31:43.220 --> 00:31:46.920
Rock on. I moved back in February, and my brother's

00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:51.039
a builder. So he took one of the slots of my

00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:53.359
garage here, and we turned it into a little studio.

00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:57.940
Very cool. Very cool. Are you back? Oh, go ahead.

00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:00.859
I was in Thousand Oaks. Weren't you in Orange

00:32:00.859 --> 00:32:03.839
County? I still am, yeah. Oh, cool. I come back

00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:06.319
here to York periodically, just about once a

00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:09.480
month. for businesses and stuff but yeah i live

00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:12.440
in orange county irvine are you guys working

00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:16.960
right now see me and and to see me he comes back

00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.839
for i said chad you got to start making uh trips

00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:21.920
back to the east coast just for me and not for

00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:23.920
business you can't just be all business when

00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:26.180
you're here you got to make time for friend time

00:32:26.180 --> 00:32:32.500
right um what were you saying dave um i don't

00:32:32.500 --> 00:32:34.299
know oh are you guys working on anything right

00:32:34.299 --> 00:32:37.250
now what are you up to Well, I'm officially not

00:32:37.250 --> 00:32:39.150
in the band right now. There's been a big shakeup,

00:32:39.170 --> 00:32:43.529
so. Oh, really? Yeah. What? There's huge drama.

00:32:44.049 --> 00:32:47.190
Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Oh, I didn't know that.

00:32:47.190 --> 00:32:50.150
Oh, okay. It's probably you don't know, but no,

00:32:50.210 --> 00:32:52.750
it's a little ridiculous right now, but hey.

00:32:52.930 --> 00:32:56.369
The heartbeat of live is in between his transplant

00:32:56.369 --> 00:32:59.269
of getting taken out and putting back in is how

00:32:59.269 --> 00:33:03.150
we're saying it. Yeah, right. Ed's out right

00:33:03.150 --> 00:33:05.430
now with three other guys, none of the original.

00:33:05.900 --> 00:33:10.359
guys oh yeah it's a sordid stupid story but it

00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:14.500
happens yeah yeah your studio is amazing i've

00:33:14.500 --> 00:33:17.460
recorded there twice kennel box we recorded a

00:33:17.460 --> 00:33:21.079
record thank you and um i worked there with christopher

00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:26.119
before that in like 2014 maybe oh you played

00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:28.099
on that female artist that we were working on

00:33:28.099 --> 00:33:32.140
yeah dana yes dana yeah yeah that was a lot of

00:33:32.140 --> 00:33:35.460
fun that studio is great yeah we put a lot of

00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.279
time and effort into it and money. And that's

00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:40.839
where I am right now. I'm on, I obviously came

00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:42.299
to the third floor, right. And saw the bar and

00:33:42.299 --> 00:33:44.579
stuff. Yeah. Yeah. That's where we are right

00:33:44.579 --> 00:33:47.660
now. Set up. I can't get over the walls on, in

00:33:47.660 --> 00:33:49.880
a, I guess it's studio beach ad where you could

00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.880
flip them from the one side where it like absorbs

00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:55.200
the sound and then you could flip it the other

00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:58.240
way. So like puts the, uh, I guess the, where

00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:01.079
it would bounce off it. Oh yeah. It's yeah. We

00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:02.839
have that in both a and B you can flip around

00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:05.000
the panel and see their sound absorbing or sound

00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.480
reflecting. It's so dope, man. And by the way,

00:34:07.500 --> 00:34:08.980
Dave, you're welcome to come back anytime you

00:34:08.980 --> 00:34:12.420
want. Awesome. Thank you. Yeah, man. I hope to

00:34:12.420 --> 00:34:14.800
get back to that. My son lives in Brooklyn, so.

00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:19.480
Okay, cool. I love that. What's that? How old

00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:24.500
is your son? He's 25. Nice. Yeah. I started late.

00:34:24.539 --> 00:34:27.739
My son's 14. So. All right. Graduating middle

00:34:27.739 --> 00:34:33.320
school. Is he playing music? My mother is 50.

00:34:33.460 --> 00:34:38.320
She had me at nine. He was playing drums for

00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:43.760
a bit. His mom, my ex, got him lessons. He said

00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:47.519
he was intimidated to play in front of me. I

00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:51.400
can show you some stuff, but it's all right.

00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:55.800
I respect him and let him do his thing. I don't

00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:57.280
know if he's still doing it or not. I haven't

00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:00.210
talked to him about it. He's playing on volleyball

00:35:00.210 --> 00:35:03.210
now. He's six, two at 14. So he's. Oh my God.

00:35:03.449 --> 00:35:08.389
Volleyball. Yeah. Yeah. Dude. And like well -mannered,

00:35:08.389 --> 00:35:11.269
like just a, just a cool kid. Absolutely. Cool

00:35:11.269 --> 00:35:14.409
kid. Volleyball is such a cool sport to, to do.

00:35:14.489 --> 00:35:18.289
Like I played it like, you know, I played at

00:35:18.289 --> 00:35:20.429
rent, you know, just like random and backyards

00:35:20.429 --> 00:35:23.460
or beaches and stuff like that. And when you

00:35:23.460 --> 00:35:25.539
see like people who are good at it and they fucking

00:35:25.539 --> 00:35:28.039
could spike all know where it had to serve well

00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:29.900
and stuff like I'm always like a crap shoot with

00:35:29.900 --> 00:35:32.860
it, but it's just a fun sport. But you got to

00:35:32.860 --> 00:35:36.380
be real crazy athletic and stuff to dive and

00:35:36.380 --> 00:35:40.179
pop up the ball. Yeah. Yeah. It's fun to watch

00:35:40.179 --> 00:35:44.099
for sure. Well, the girls are definitely fun

00:35:44.099 --> 00:35:48.630
to watch. Yeah. Do you have my name? I have three

00:35:48.630 --> 00:35:51.409
all together, yeah. Yeah, me too. I have a son

00:35:51.409 --> 00:35:55.489
in Arizona. My daughter's in Florida. Nice. And

00:35:55.489 --> 00:35:59.849
my son is in Brooklyn, yeah. Are they older or

00:35:59.849 --> 00:36:02.670
younger than your son in Brooklyn? They're all

00:36:02.670 --> 00:36:11.150
older. Oh, okay. 30, let's see, 33. My daughter's

00:36:11.150 --> 00:36:14.449
29. She'll be turning 30 in a couple of weeks.

00:36:14.789 --> 00:36:18.110
In her 30s. Oh, that's right. I just, I think

00:36:18.110 --> 00:36:20.409
on Howard Stern was Eddie talking about like

00:36:20.409 --> 00:36:23.070
you were, you're, you were having a baby and

00:36:23.070 --> 00:36:25.389
you couldn't come to the session. Yeah. Well,

00:36:25.829 --> 00:36:29.510
no, I think they were talking about even flow

00:36:29.510 --> 00:36:32.889
took some, some time during, but you know, if,

00:36:32.969 --> 00:36:35.210
if I remember correctly, cause I know we try

00:36:35.210 --> 00:36:38.469
to click track. Yeah. And my girlfriend was pregnant

00:36:38.469 --> 00:36:41.949
at the time. So basically what happened was we

00:36:41.949 --> 00:36:45.679
were working. Then he was delivered like the

00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:48.599
next day. Wow. And then we went right back to

00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:51.320
the studio. So, yeah, it was intense. It was

00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:53.780
a lot of stress. I actually brought him in in

00:36:53.780 --> 00:36:57.619
his little carrier at about a week old. Nice.

00:36:57.860 --> 00:37:01.219
Into the studio? Into the studio? I'm sorry?

00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:06.019
Yeah. Wow. How cool, man. We kind of did it similar

00:37:06.019 --> 00:37:11.840
because we had our son in 2009 and we left 10

00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:15.030
days later. to record The Gracious Few up in

00:37:15.030 --> 00:37:17.769
San Francisco. Sausalito, actually, with Jerry

00:37:17.769 --> 00:37:21.989
Harrison. Nice, yeah. Somehow I got my ex, my

00:37:21.989 --> 00:37:24.929
wife at the time, to cart everything up there.

00:37:24.989 --> 00:37:28.989
How cool, man. I was like, why are we... In hindsight,

00:37:29.090 --> 00:37:30.389
we're like, why did we rush it? We could have

00:37:30.389 --> 00:37:33.010
waited a few weeks to record the record. It's

00:37:33.010 --> 00:37:35.889
rock star shit. You guys were doing rock star

00:37:35.889 --> 00:37:40.690
shit. That's cool. Yeah, it's... Stressful and

00:37:40.690 --> 00:37:45.869
inspiring all at the same time. That was a great

00:37:45.869 --> 00:37:53.030
time. Pretty heavy. Were you in Seattle, Dave,

00:37:53.250 --> 00:37:57.909
as you were growing up? Yeah, right here. Gate

00:37:57.909 --> 00:38:01.409
Harbor. It's about an hour south of Seattle.

00:38:02.190 --> 00:38:06.389
Is it as rainy as people say over there? It's

00:38:06.389 --> 00:38:10.670
raining right now. Yeah. Oh, it is. I lived in

00:38:10.670 --> 00:38:13.769
Portland from 95 to 2005. Oh, yeah, that's right.

00:38:13.929 --> 00:38:18.969
Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. I mean, I got back up

00:38:18.969 --> 00:38:22.590
here in February, which is the worst time to

00:38:22.590 --> 00:38:25.929
be in the Northwest, as you know. And I'm like,

00:38:26.010 --> 00:38:28.289
oh, man, what did I do? But now I'm getting a

00:38:28.289 --> 00:38:30.650
little more subtle. It's all good. But I think

00:38:30.650 --> 00:38:33.909
I'll probably end up back in California in a

00:38:33.909 --> 00:38:34.670
couple of years. Well, the summers in the Northwest

00:38:34.670 --> 00:38:36.849
are just amazing. Yeah. And the summers are just

00:38:36.849 --> 00:38:41.139
beautiful. It's spectacular there. Make sure

00:38:41.139 --> 00:38:45.139
you go to a good part of California because God

00:38:45.139 --> 00:38:48.460
forbid we have another pandemic or something.

00:38:48.659 --> 00:38:52.420
I don't want you locked down while people are

00:38:52.420 --> 00:38:55.900
outdoor dining and you can't do it. I was in

00:38:55.900 --> 00:38:59.159
Thousand Oaks, which is awesome. Thousand Oaks

00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:03.739
is very... Is that northern Italy? Northern Cali?

00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:09.300
No, it's north. yeah north of la it's kind of

00:39:09.300 --> 00:39:11.699
like here to seattle it's about 45 to an hour

00:39:11.699 --> 00:39:15.480
outside of you know the middle of la hollywood

00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:18.599
and all that but uh where are you at in orange

00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:22.460
county irvine oh right on yeah irvine's nice

00:39:22.460 --> 00:39:26.619
too yeah it's man california is like i follow

00:39:26.619 --> 00:39:30.940
still follow ktla okay yeah and kcal and it's

00:39:30.940 --> 00:39:35.630
like daily the the stories wow Are those ratings?

00:39:35.630 --> 00:39:38.789
Apocalyptic. It's nuts. It's nuts. It's not as

00:39:38.789 --> 00:39:41.989
bad in Orange County as it is in L .A. proper.

00:39:42.190 --> 00:39:44.730
It's just ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah, in the middle

00:39:44.730 --> 00:39:48.590
of L .A., it's really... Wow. I love how you

00:39:48.590 --> 00:39:51.230
said L .A. proper. Because, right, you got Los

00:39:51.230 --> 00:39:53.610
Angeles County, and then I guess Los Angeles,

00:39:53.670 --> 00:39:58.429
the city. So L .A. proper would be... I'm just,

00:39:58.489 --> 00:40:00.829
I don't know these things. Well, it's downtown

00:40:00.829 --> 00:40:03.010
LA and like, you know, that whole megalopolis

00:40:03.010 --> 00:40:06.289
that's there. That's LA proper, I guess. So I

00:40:06.289 --> 00:40:09.289
was out there a long time ago and on Wall Street

00:40:09.289 --> 00:40:13.090
in downtown Los Angeles. And in New York, that's

00:40:13.090 --> 00:40:15.250
like the financial district and stuff. So it's

00:40:15.250 --> 00:40:17.650
like all clean and business people, business

00:40:17.650 --> 00:40:20.489
suits and stuff like that. And I'm in downtown

00:40:20.489 --> 00:40:23.429
LA and there was fucking people getting thrown

00:40:23.429 --> 00:40:25.969
up on the side of the buildings, getting frists.

00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:29.320
People like doing drugs, like right on the street

00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:32.659
right there, like hardcore drugs. I was like,

00:40:32.699 --> 00:40:36.400
this is not how am I on Wall Street in a city?

00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:39.619
And this is what it's like. It's not the financial

00:40:39.619 --> 00:40:42.480
district that I'm used to, you know, in New York.

00:40:42.539 --> 00:40:46.280
It was like crazy, crazy to see. But I guess,

00:40:46.300 --> 00:40:48.119
you know, anywhere in L .A., you're probably

00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:51.880
not too far from like crazy spots and Skid Row

00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:54.440
and all that and all that jazz, you know, in

00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:57.690
the city of L .A. Yeah, it's frigging nuts now.

00:40:57.829 --> 00:41:00.389
If you make a left on Vine Street and follow

00:41:00.389 --> 00:41:03.389
it around, you're under the bridge to the little

00:41:03.389 --> 00:41:08.989
Taj Mahal. That's a lyric. Don't mind me, Dave.

00:41:09.070 --> 00:41:12.570
I just talk a little nutty. So, yeah, I'm a stand

00:41:12.570 --> 00:41:17.230
-up comedian in my spare time. Learning the craft

00:41:17.230 --> 00:41:21.469
as we speak. So sometimes jokey stuff gets in

00:41:21.469 --> 00:41:24.190
my head and I just say it real quick and it doesn't,

00:41:24.190 --> 00:41:26.699
my brain, catches up but kind of later like hey

00:41:26.699 --> 00:41:30.780
dude um we're not joking right now but that's

00:41:30.780 --> 00:41:32.420
why i became a stand -up comedian so i could

00:41:32.420 --> 00:41:34.800
joke all the time and get away with it there

00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:37.539
you go so you working on project now dave or

00:41:37.539 --> 00:41:39.820
you just uh mess around your studio yourself

00:41:39.820 --> 00:41:43.139
or a couple of friends of mine it's called big

00:41:43.139 --> 00:41:46.159
game hunter we're working on some stuff we started

00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:49.199
during the pandemic like i stopped touring well

00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:51.480
everybody did obviously but then when it's kind

00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:55.730
of started back up i just stayed home yeah yeah

00:41:55.730 --> 00:42:00.030
um i'm just gonna stay home now so um yeah uh

00:42:00.030 --> 00:42:04.590
during that a buddy of mine up in seattle like

00:42:04.590 --> 00:42:08.190
i when i lived up here i have like little basement

00:42:08.190 --> 00:42:12.510
studios in my houses and whatnot so um and we're

00:42:12.510 --> 00:42:14.750
always he's a big analog guy but i was like go

00:42:14.750 --> 00:42:18.650
get some sort of interface so we can start trading

00:42:18.650 --> 00:42:21.639
files We were all locked down. So we started

00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:23.900
doing that. Now we've got 20 -something tunes.

00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:27.940
Oh, sweet. And my friend Adam, who plays bass

00:42:27.940 --> 00:42:31.539
in Candlebox and Sons of Silver, another band

00:42:31.539 --> 00:42:34.880
I was playing in, he came in and started putting

00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:37.880
some bass down. So we've got a couple of things

00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:44.340
we put out. Nice. Yeah. Adam's last name is Curry?

00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:49.710
Curry, yeah. Yep. Great guy. Yeah, absolutely.

00:42:49.969 --> 00:42:53.369
Great bass player and really good mixer, too.

00:42:54.210 --> 00:42:57.369
What's that? I said Curry, good spice, too. Yeah,

00:42:57.449 --> 00:43:02.650
absolutely. Do you know Scotty? Oh, yeah. He's

00:43:02.650 --> 00:43:05.250
a great guy, too. Yeah, he is. Great drummer,

00:43:05.429 --> 00:43:07.510
really good guy. We've always got along great.

00:43:08.010 --> 00:43:12.530
The cool thing about... Dave, being a home body

00:43:12.530 --> 00:43:14.690
now is like you could kind of get away with it

00:43:14.690 --> 00:43:17.849
now with being able to record stuff in your house,

00:43:17.969 --> 00:43:21.070
send it out. You could collaborate with people

00:43:21.070 --> 00:43:23.469
that way if you have the proper equipment and

00:43:23.469 --> 00:43:27.090
it could sound just as good. People live stream

00:43:27.090 --> 00:43:29.250
concerts and stuff from their house. I don't

00:43:29.250 --> 00:43:32.510
know if you saw during COVID, but Post Malone

00:43:32.510 --> 00:43:35.409
kind of put out like this super group thing where

00:43:35.409 --> 00:43:40.159
he had him on vocals. uh travis barker on drums

00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:43.059
and then uh two other musicians and they did

00:43:43.059 --> 00:43:47.019
uh nirvana live stream uh where they did i think

00:43:47.019 --> 00:43:49.280
the full nevermind album and then some additional

00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:52.420
bonus songs at the end but dude i didn't know

00:43:52.420 --> 00:43:54.679
that yeah man you guys should check it out it's

00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:58.199
on youtube you could uh still get it it was my

00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:00.980
first time like realizing like post malone's

00:44:00.980 --> 00:44:03.059
legit like i i heard his name before but never

00:44:03.059 --> 00:44:05.980
heard any music that he did or whatever yeah

00:44:05.980 --> 00:44:08.719
he's a big rock fan He did some Alice in Chains

00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:10.639
cover, too, on Howard Stern, I believe. And it

00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:12.500
was phenomenal, right? Was it Them Bones? Wow.

00:44:13.099 --> 00:44:16.659
Oh, my God. Yeah, dude. Amazing. I'll check it

00:44:16.659 --> 00:44:20.440
out. Cool. You know, and he said, I've been doing

00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:22.500
this for a long time. People just know the Post

00:44:22.500 --> 00:44:25.420
Malone now. But he goes, I was touring around,

00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:29.500
you know, festivals and, you know, making, learning

00:44:29.500 --> 00:44:32.000
music and stuff like that. So they say overnight

00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:34.719
access for him, you know, but it wasn't. It was

00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.309
a long journey and stuff like that. i didn't

00:44:37.309 --> 00:44:39.469
realize until i saw that the musical talent he

00:44:39.469 --> 00:44:41.769
had and uh it was cool he's a cool dude that's

00:44:41.769 --> 00:44:44.789
that's awesome yeah what i've heard of him is

00:44:44.789 --> 00:44:47.090
he's great so i'll have to go back and check

00:44:47.090 --> 00:44:50.530
that out it's dope you'll like it man well dave

00:44:50.530 --> 00:44:53.010
it was very cool to see you uh you know inducted

00:44:53.010 --> 00:44:54.329
in the rock and roll hall of fame with pearl

00:44:54.329 --> 00:44:57.849
jam i was thank you you better have dave bruising

00:44:57.849 --> 00:45:02.289
in there that was uh pretty mind -blowing yeah

00:45:02.289 --> 00:45:04.010
it was a trip yeah i was gonna say how was that

00:45:04.010 --> 00:45:07.670
experience What's that? I was going to say, how

00:45:07.670 --> 00:45:09.329
was that experience? Were you nervous to go on

00:45:09.329 --> 00:45:14.550
there and play? Oddly, no, not really. I don't

00:45:14.550 --> 00:45:19.070
know why. But when I first heard that, I was

00:45:19.070 --> 00:45:22.329
pretty shocked. And then went up and rehearsed

00:45:22.329 --> 00:45:24.329
with them, ran through the song a couple times.

00:45:24.530 --> 00:45:28.630
And they're so easy to play with. You know what

00:45:28.630 --> 00:45:30.769
I mean? Like, they're such a great band. It's

00:45:30.769 --> 00:45:33.469
like, it's the way it always was playing with

00:45:33.469 --> 00:45:36.900
them. It's just like. It's hard to describe it.

00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:41.500
It kind of, I got to do is just, you know, hop

00:45:41.500 --> 00:45:44.579
on board. It's like that, that train's going.

00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:47.519
So. Right. Get back on the bike. It's like, yeah.

00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:51.500
And it was so surreal that I just, I think it

00:45:51.500 --> 00:45:53.900
was like, there's a point there's like nervous.

00:45:54.699 --> 00:45:56.739
You know what I mean? Like it could be a club

00:45:56.739 --> 00:46:00.000
with five people. Right. And your cousins there

00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:01.380
or something, you know what I mean? You're like,

00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:03.800
Oh, you know, yeah. It's a little nerve wracking.

00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:08.519
Yep. But that was so like, whoa, that I wasn't

00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:11.780
even, you know, it's just like, wow. It's too

00:46:11.780 --> 00:46:15.460
surreal to even really get nervous about. You

00:46:15.460 --> 00:46:18.260
knew it was going to be like a smooth thing out

00:46:18.260 --> 00:46:20.239
there. You guys were going to like rock and stuff

00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:23.460
like that. I think those nerves and stuff like

00:46:23.460 --> 00:46:25.000
that, because you get like a feeling in your

00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:27.159
belly and stuff. It's like an excitement. Like

00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:29.719
you hear the crowd type of deal. And I think

00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:33.469
it's like. like excitement nerves and like adrenaline

00:46:33.469 --> 00:46:36.889
all this stuff coming in and you could sometimes

00:46:36.889 --> 00:46:39.090
kind of psych yourself out be too nervous to

00:46:39.090 --> 00:46:41.610
do whatever but it seems like that time you kind

00:46:41.610 --> 00:46:44.250
of used all that to just go out there and just

00:46:44.250 --> 00:46:46.889
be free and stuff like that but I so I kind of

00:46:46.889 --> 00:46:48.429
get what you're saying because I've had it on

00:46:48.429 --> 00:46:50.329
smaller scales and stuff like that where if you're

00:46:50.329 --> 00:46:52.750
doing a show and people you know are coming to

00:46:52.750 --> 00:46:55.170
perform I see you perform you're like oh shit

00:46:55.170 --> 00:46:57.510
I better be on my game tonight and you know all

00:46:57.510 --> 00:46:59.750
that stuff and you kind of get anxiety before

00:46:59.750 --> 00:47:02.469
the gig, but you know, if you kind of put that

00:47:02.469 --> 00:47:04.170
out of your brain and we're like, we've been

00:47:04.170 --> 00:47:06.670
here before, we, we know how to rock this, you

00:47:06.670 --> 00:47:08.590
know, it's gonna, it's gonna go good. It's enjoy.

00:47:09.369 --> 00:47:13.670
And yeah, I would get the most nervous to do

00:47:13.670 --> 00:47:16.929
like TV. I can only imagine Saturday night live.

00:47:17.369 --> 00:47:19.730
But as soon as you, as soon as I sat down and

00:47:19.730 --> 00:47:23.150
hit the first note, that's all gone. Yeah. But

00:47:23.150 --> 00:47:25.289
I, yeah, I would be a little nervous in the run

00:47:25.289 --> 00:47:26.929
up to do the rock and roll hall of fame. if we

00:47:26.929 --> 00:47:29.230
ever get there well chad you have that alternative

00:47:29.230 --> 00:47:32.750
on stage too that uh i guess somebody said to

00:47:32.750 --> 00:47:34.329
you like you didn't even realize like you had

00:47:34.329 --> 00:47:37.769
because you're so um you know you look like bigger

00:47:37.769 --> 00:47:40.010
than life out there sometimes you have the backwards

00:47:40.010 --> 00:47:42.309
cap on your whole body's going you're rocking

00:47:42.309 --> 00:47:44.269
out to the music so it seems like you're just

00:47:44.269 --> 00:47:47.150
no nerves at all you're just up there like having

00:47:47.150 --> 00:47:50.090
fun you know doing whatever so it's it's kind

00:47:50.090 --> 00:47:52.510
of funny to hear to hear you guys talk about

00:47:52.510 --> 00:47:55.309
this stuff because you know audience as an audience

00:47:55.309 --> 00:47:57.469
member seeing it you're just like wow these guys

00:47:57.469 --> 00:48:00.250
you know have it down pat there's you know there's

00:48:00.250 --> 00:48:02.909
no nerves to them at all and stuff like that

00:48:02.909 --> 00:48:05.730
and it everything sounds perfectly so it's kind

00:48:05.730 --> 00:48:08.230
of cool to hear well from you know big musicians

00:48:08.230 --> 00:48:10.329
like yeah i mean as the drummer you have you

00:48:10.329 --> 00:48:12.670
know if you stop it's all fucked so you gotta

00:48:12.670 --> 00:48:16.929
like you gotta be in the zone yeah i could only

00:48:16.929 --> 00:48:21.780
imagine man you know what i'm saying it is what's

00:48:21.780 --> 00:48:24.460
it's a driving force of it it's the uh you know

00:48:24.460 --> 00:48:28.659
it's if you just stop to be like okay so where's

00:48:28.659 --> 00:48:31.880
the the band would even be like what the what's

00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:33.960
going on here do we keep going and stuff it's

00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:36.300
like gotta keep the uh the whole thing going

00:48:36.300 --> 00:48:40.099
it's it's it's legit i'm amazed by you know musicians

00:48:40.099 --> 00:48:42.199
and stuff like that and just like what you guys

00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:45.340
do in concert on albums it's fun to fucking be

00:48:45.340 --> 00:48:48.940
a part of Or to see and witness. I've learned

00:48:48.940 --> 00:48:52.840
an instrument, guitar, and I'm horrible at it.

00:48:52.900 --> 00:48:54.880
I know a couple chords, could like strum them

00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:57.360
together. So when I see real musicians that put

00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:00.019
it all together, it's like, it's a cool thing

00:49:00.019 --> 00:49:04.659
to be around and witness. So Dave, I have a kind

00:49:04.659 --> 00:49:06.559
of funny Eddie Vedder story. The first time,

00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:09.019
actually the only time I've met him in person,

00:49:09.059 --> 00:49:14.760
we were at a U2 concert in 96 or 7 in Seattle.

00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:19.079
I drove up from Portland and, uh, they did a,

00:49:19.139 --> 00:49:22.239
you two did a pre meet and greet, you know, show.

00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:26.219
And, um, and, uh, you know, Bono came in the

00:49:26.219 --> 00:49:28.679
room, everyone flocked to him and I met Adam

00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:32.139
and, and at the edge, I'd met them before. But,

00:49:32.380 --> 00:49:34.539
uh, so after that all happened, I saw Eddie and

00:49:34.539 --> 00:49:36.199
I walked up and was, Hey man, I'm drummer from

00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:38.099
live Gracie. How you doing? He's like, Oh, Hey

00:49:38.099 --> 00:49:40.519
man, what's up? He's like, have you ever toured

00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:43.920
with the Rolling Stones? I'm like, no, we haven't.

00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:45.679
He's like, They have a great record collection.

00:49:46.179 --> 00:49:51.940
And then he just walks away. Okay. And then,

00:49:51.940 --> 00:49:54.539
and then we were in the audit. We were in the,

00:49:54.579 --> 00:49:56.699
in front of front of house. They had a little

00:49:56.699 --> 00:49:59.079
gated area there. We were watching the show and

00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:01.159
Chris Cornell was standing right, right next

00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:03.440
to me. Wow. And this is like the first song.

00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:05.440
And he's standing there just looking at, I forget

00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:07.300
what song it was. And he's just looking at him.

00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:09.739
And all of a sudden he just goes, this fucking

00:50:09.739 --> 00:50:15.219
sucks. And walks out. Wow. Who did that? Chris

00:50:15.219 --> 00:50:18.019
Cornell. Chris Cornell said that? Yeah. Was this

00:50:18.019 --> 00:50:22.860
the one with the big mono PA? Yes. It was the

00:50:22.860 --> 00:50:26.159
Smart Tour. Yes. Yeah. I was there. Were you

00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:28.920
there too? I was probably standing a few people

00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.739
behind you. You had to be, yeah. How funny. Because

00:50:31.739 --> 00:50:33.760
you heard Chris Cornell say the same thing, I'm

00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:36.860
guessing. No, I didn't hear that. But that was

00:50:36.860 --> 00:50:39.920
the one where they had the McDonald's looking.

00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:43.690
It just went up like this and they had the. Yeah,

00:50:43.690 --> 00:50:47.730
that's hilarious. Dude, that is hysterical. They're

00:50:47.730 --> 00:50:53.150
such a... They're a great live band. His cover...

00:50:53.150 --> 00:50:57.449
I'm sorry. His cover of... Is it Prince's Song

00:50:57.449 --> 00:50:59.429
or Sinead O 'Connor's Nothing Compares to You?

00:50:59.510 --> 00:51:00.909
I don't know if you guys... It's Prince's Song,

00:51:01.050 --> 00:51:03.989
Sinead O 'Connor. Okay, so have you guys heard

00:51:03.989 --> 00:51:06.070
Chris Cornell do that, like the acoustic version?

00:51:07.369 --> 00:51:10.050
Yeah, I heard it. It's really good. It's dope.

00:51:10.530 --> 00:51:15.289
Okay, I'll check that out too. Another single

00:51:15.289 --> 00:51:19.550
grunge guy, right? They were from that area,

00:51:19.610 --> 00:51:22.710
I think Soundgarden. Yeah. Absolutely, yeah.

00:51:22.829 --> 00:51:25.230
And now, you know, of course, the great Matt

00:51:25.230 --> 00:51:28.090
Cameron is in Pearl Jam. I mean, that's amazing.

00:51:28.349 --> 00:51:31.110
I mean, to be in Soundgarden, now Pearl Jam,

00:51:31.210 --> 00:51:34.190
it's like, wow. And Temple of the Dog. Oh, and

00:51:34.190 --> 00:51:35.570
Temple of the Dog, yeah. Can't leave them out.

00:51:35.829 --> 00:51:41.349
Yeah, dude. That's amazing. Yeah. What was that

00:51:41.349 --> 00:51:44.340
song? Going Hungry? I saw them. Fucking great

00:51:44.340 --> 00:51:48.360
tune. They were in doing that record when we

00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:53.539
were working on 10. Okay. Oh, wow. So that was

00:51:53.539 --> 00:52:00.420
before Pearl Jam released 10 and Soundgarden,

00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:02.940
I guess, released their first album. Temple of

00:52:02.940 --> 00:52:06.239
the Dog was, I guess, making music. I thought

00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:09.139
that was like after. I didn't realize. Wow. They

00:52:09.139 --> 00:52:12.300
were cutting the record while we were doing some

00:52:12.300 --> 00:52:16.500
demos. okay so we did like three rounds two or

00:52:16.500 --> 00:52:19.980
three rounds of demos before we did the record

00:52:19.980 --> 00:52:26.659
wow so sorry i was just i was such a huge soundgarden

00:52:26.659 --> 00:52:30.119
fan from the get -go yeah and chris and matt

00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:35.320
were there oh my god yeah yeah they were really

00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:39.559
nice though it was that was a cool thing to kind

00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:43.099
of get to be a little behind the scenes and watch

00:52:43.099 --> 00:52:45.940
them work a little yeah you are you friendly

00:52:45.940 --> 00:52:49.400
with matt you know matt i mean we've we've uh

00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:51.579
hung out a few times yeah he's always been nice

00:52:51.579 --> 00:52:53.840
to me yeah i met him a couple times he's a super

00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:58.940
nice guy i mean drummer obviously the uh the

00:52:58.940 --> 00:53:03.639
the matt cameron was uh i guess this the drummer

00:53:03.639 --> 00:53:07.300
like on the uh pearl jam versus like the second

00:53:07.300 --> 00:53:11.829
album no no that was averses yeah Oh, I didn't.

00:53:11.849 --> 00:53:14.369
So they've had a couple drummers in. Well, they

00:53:14.369 --> 00:53:16.929
had a Bruzies and then Jack Irons for a while,

00:53:17.010 --> 00:53:19.869
right? Yeah. And then Cameron came in after Jack

00:53:19.869 --> 00:53:24.869
Irons, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Like 97 or 8,

00:53:24.929 --> 00:53:28.610
I think 98. Amazing. Yeah. Yeah, that's Jack

00:53:28.610 --> 00:53:31.289
Irons. What record did he play on, Jack Irons?

00:53:32.369 --> 00:53:36.670
No Code and Yield. Right. His beats are so distinctive.

00:53:36.789 --> 00:53:39.630
It was cool to hear. I enjoyed it in Red Hot

00:53:39.630 --> 00:53:42.639
Chili Peppers, obviously. original genre yeah

00:53:42.639 --> 00:53:48.340
i love those guys but i did no code album it

00:53:48.340 --> 00:53:51.400
wasn't uh like one of my favorite pearl jam albums

00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:57.079
like the uh one after is it vital so what did

00:53:57.079 --> 00:53:59.559
you yield uh the one with yield on it given to

00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:02.420
fly yield what was the name of that album let's

00:54:02.420 --> 00:54:06.480
yield that that that bit that album i'm absolutely

00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:08.400
i love that thing start to finish it was like

00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:10.739
another one that you can go through but for some

00:54:10.739 --> 00:54:13.739
reason I did no code. Like I just, I wasn't,

00:54:13.739 --> 00:54:16.480
I think it was like a two, two rocking or something

00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:18.739
for me. Like it didn't, it didn't sound like

00:54:18.739 --> 00:54:21.099
a Pearl jam thing that I was used to. It was

00:54:21.099 --> 00:54:23.860
like a, I don't know. I didn't maybe understand

00:54:23.860 --> 00:54:26.159
some of the lyrics or something, but it wasn't

00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:29.019
like, uh, you know, one of my, cause you know,

00:54:29.019 --> 00:54:33.059
10 versus vitality. And then that one kind of

00:54:33.059 --> 00:54:35.380
missed for me, but then a yield that came and

00:54:35.380 --> 00:54:37.179
I was like, Oh, okay. This is, this is fucking

00:54:37.179 --> 00:54:40.119
cool. Pearl jam album again. um not not sure

00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:44.840
why but i guess you know in my brain wasn't wasn't

00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:48.559
wasn't my favorite pearl jam album i uh you know

00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:50.619
like red mosquito and stuff like that that's

00:54:50.619 --> 00:54:53.639
on there was like uh i don't know a little weird

00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:57.559
for me hey okay don't like them all don't hate

00:54:57.559 --> 00:55:00.820
me for saying so pearl jam members out there

00:55:00.820 --> 00:55:03.679
i just you know it is what is all you know still

00:55:03.679 --> 00:55:07.159
like songs off it but uh Black Dave, I was saying

00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:09.380
to Chad yesterday, that's one of my all time

00:55:09.380 --> 00:55:15.480
favorite Pearl Jam songs. Yeah, man. The lyrics

00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:19.820
about it, like painful and like, you know, a

00:55:19.820 --> 00:55:23.219
girl, you know, breaking your heart type of deal.

00:55:23.780 --> 00:55:26.659
And, you know, you're looking at pictures and

00:55:26.659 --> 00:55:29.480
stuff. It's just a very powerful, powerful song.

00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:33.579
The album version, both concert versions and

00:55:33.579 --> 00:55:36.739
stuff, it's just a cool song to hear in a bunch

00:55:36.739 --> 00:55:41.019
of different settings. How did that come about

00:55:41.019 --> 00:55:43.940
when you guys were putting that on the 10 album?

00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:47.900
Was this something you had heard with all the

00:55:47.900 --> 00:55:49.940
other parts on it and you came in and put the

00:55:49.940 --> 00:55:52.719
drums on it at the end? How does that recording

00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:56.900
process go for a song like that? Well, that was

00:55:56.900 --> 00:56:02.510
one that Stone had written. uh and we we worked

00:56:02.510 --> 00:56:05.010
on a little bit before eddie got there but once

00:56:05.010 --> 00:56:08.170
eddie got there and sang on it that's when for

00:56:08.170 --> 00:56:14.309
me it went like really kicked in because the

00:56:14.309 --> 00:56:16.210
way he was singing what he was singing about

00:56:16.210 --> 00:56:20.849
for me really kind of dictated the feel of the

00:56:20.849 --> 00:56:26.150
song oh yeah you know um it was obviously great

00:56:26.150 --> 00:56:29.349
from the get -go but yeah he what he did really

00:56:30.860 --> 00:56:36.019
makes that song so powerful really tell vocally

00:56:36.019 --> 00:56:40.260
uh like i guess that he's um you know had a lot

00:56:40.260 --> 00:56:43.059
of influence a lot of people like creed for instance

00:56:43.059 --> 00:56:45.400
kind of seemed like the lead singer scott staff

00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:47.119
from there kind of seemed like he was taking

00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:50.500
some eddie vetter kind of you know phrasings

00:56:50.500 --> 00:56:53.119
and deepness with it and stuff like that and

00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:56.480
um there was another band that kind of came out

00:56:56.480 --> 00:56:59.480
that kind of you know kind of had you know Not,

00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:01.139
not Eddie Vedder's voice, but like a similar

00:57:01.139 --> 00:57:03.840
style of way to do it. And of course not, you

00:57:03.840 --> 00:57:05.719
know, Eddie Vedder is just a one of a fucking

00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:09.440
kind. Very influential. Yeah. Yeah. So Dave,

00:57:09.460 --> 00:57:12.019
was it true that, cause I had heard this, I don't

00:57:12.019 --> 00:57:14.139
know if it's a rumor or not, but was it true

00:57:14.139 --> 00:57:16.420
that all the songs were recorded and then Eddie

00:57:16.420 --> 00:57:19.699
came in and sang to him? No. No. What? Like I

00:57:19.699 --> 00:57:24.679
said, we cut it all live. Okay. He was, I mean,

00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:26.280
you said that earlier. I didn't know if that.

00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:29.320
That was something I saw on the Howard's. I think

00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:32.059
it was the Howard Stern thing. Okay. And he was

00:57:32.059 --> 00:57:35.099
talking about, like, he was singing every time.

00:57:35.139 --> 00:57:36.800
And then later on, they're like, you know, you

00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:40.260
could just, like, sing it once. You know what

00:57:40.260 --> 00:57:42.420
I mean? Right. Not trying to get the vocal track

00:57:42.420 --> 00:57:46.500
on the live. Yeah, it's hilarious. But he did.

00:57:46.659 --> 00:57:49.840
He was, like, in there just. Going at it. That

00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:53.219
was a song. Even Flo, I think one of the reasons

00:57:53.219 --> 00:57:56.510
that took a long time, because. We had never

00:57:56.510 --> 00:58:00.849
played to a click. And back then, I was just

00:58:00.849 --> 00:58:08.769
pretty loose, you could say. I was not very nailed

00:58:08.769 --> 00:58:13.389
down in my personal life and my professional

00:58:13.389 --> 00:58:16.070
life. So it's like the tempos did fluctuate a

00:58:16.070 --> 00:58:21.280
lot. Even flow definitely works better. it's

00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:24.320
a couple of tempos it's not really just static

00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:27.300
and so i think when we got in and so we played

00:58:27.300 --> 00:58:31.260
we rehearsed we did shows we did demos all these

00:58:31.260 --> 00:58:33.079
things without a click and when we went in to

00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:40.380
do the record um i think we tried click on a

00:58:40.380 --> 00:58:44.239
few songs and i and i think we ended up using

00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:51.940
it on jeremy and garden uh but i think we tried

00:58:51.940 --> 00:58:55.460
it on even flow and i think that may have been

00:58:55.460 --> 00:58:57.960
one of the reasons that that song took so long

00:58:57.960 --> 00:59:03.960
because um it it's just not static um tempo wise

00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:07.659
it it fluctuates it kind of breeze it's a little

00:59:07.659 --> 00:59:10.139
it's like condensed and then it opens up and

00:59:10.139 --> 00:59:12.780
you know what i mean so oh yeah absolutely i

00:59:12.780 --> 00:59:15.960
mean i think that that's right no it's just i

00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:20.619
think that kind of kind of uh tripped us up you

00:59:20.619 --> 00:59:23.019
know trying to do that to a click after the fact

00:59:23.019 --> 00:59:25.739
we'd already like you know rehearsed it played

00:59:25.739 --> 00:59:29.659
it live right demo demoed it well yeah probably

00:59:29.659 --> 00:59:32.099
made a little stale i would think you know we

00:59:32.099 --> 00:59:35.239
we refused to use clicks until our fifth record

00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:38.840
we just recorded everything click really oh my

00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:41.079
god well you're so solid you didn't need one

00:59:41.079 --> 00:59:46.320
thank you yeah and but it's wild now that all

00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:48.599
it seems like all music is now click everything

00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:51.679
yep it's click I saw uh Danny Carey talking about

00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:53.159
this too with tool and he was like yeah we don't

00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:55.559
use clicks and tool I'm like how the fuck could

00:59:55.559 --> 00:59:57.760
you use a click and tool like what are you good

00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:00.260
point I can't even follow his time signatures

01:00:00.260 --> 01:00:04.039
when he's oh my god yeah how's he doing yeah

01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:07.380
it's like maybe tempo map that I've done that

01:00:07.380 --> 01:00:10.900
before where it's like they'll drop you know

01:00:11.309 --> 01:00:17.150
Or like Candlebox, Happy Pills, Ron Nevison recorded

01:00:17.150 --> 01:00:20.030
us. And that guy's, you know, he's worked with

01:00:20.030 --> 01:00:23.250
so many greats. But he was great because he'd

01:00:23.250 --> 01:00:26.650
be like, let's try to click on this. And it really

01:00:26.650 --> 01:00:28.389
wasn't working. So he's like, all right, I'm

01:00:28.389 --> 01:00:30.570
going to bring it in for the verses and then

01:00:30.570 --> 01:00:33.369
I'll take it off. And he was so good. Like as

01:00:33.369 --> 01:00:36.309
soon as that chorus would end and I'd do a fill,

01:00:36.329 --> 01:00:38.570
he'd just like, boom. And it would be, you know.

01:00:38.909 --> 01:00:41.530
So that I've done stuff like that and it's pretty

01:00:41.530 --> 01:00:44.750
helpful, but I got to the point where it's like,

01:00:44.809 --> 01:00:47.150
once I got decent with a click, I'm like, just

01:00:47.150 --> 01:00:48.929
turn that click on. Cause I don't want to hear

01:00:48.929 --> 01:00:51.309
any like, Oh, is it speeding up or is it slowing

01:00:51.309 --> 01:00:55.929
down? I turn the click up. Yeah. Let's see. Let's

01:00:55.929 --> 01:00:59.110
see. But I think too, it's so common because

01:00:59.110 --> 01:01:05.090
pro tools for one and maybe all the format, I

01:01:05.090 --> 01:01:08.449
just use pro tools, but it's like, it's such

01:01:08.449 --> 01:01:11.150
on a grid, you know what I mean? It's like, there's

01:01:11.150 --> 01:01:13.730
so much editing done these days that, Oh my God.

01:01:13.750 --> 01:01:16.630
Oh yeah. You know, it's like, I have a question,

01:01:16.769 --> 01:01:19.469
non -musician. I'm sorry for when you're done

01:01:19.469 --> 01:01:22.289
finishing that though, but you're going to laugh

01:01:22.289 --> 01:01:24.690
at me because it's a non -musician. So is the

01:01:24.690 --> 01:01:29.550
benefit of the click track that better for the

01:01:29.550 --> 01:01:31.150
editing? So then in other words, if you're adding

01:01:31.150 --> 01:01:34.289
another part at a different point, you could

01:01:34.289 --> 01:01:36.849
then make sure it's all synced up because. It

01:01:36.849 --> 01:01:39.730
seems like as a musician, you would almost not

01:01:39.730 --> 01:01:43.110
want to have something like that. If you are

01:01:43.110 --> 01:01:45.590
changing tempos and stuff like that, like that

01:01:45.590 --> 01:01:47.409
could maybe throw you off. So I was like wondering

01:01:47.409 --> 01:01:50.769
what the benefits would be to have that, you

01:01:50.769 --> 01:01:55.550
know, that click track. Yeah, the editing and

01:01:55.550 --> 01:01:58.860
keep it. Well, one good thing about it is. if

01:01:58.860 --> 01:02:01.079
you're playing with people like you know chad

01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:04.159
your band it's like everybody's synced up so

01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:06.159
well everybody has such good timing but that's

01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:08.679
not always the case so especially if you haven't

01:02:08.679 --> 01:02:11.960
worked with people a lot you know for a long

01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:16.860
time if not everyone that's recording at that

01:02:16.860 --> 01:02:22.460
time has super solid time it could help with

01:02:22.460 --> 01:02:25.679
that so right that can be really good and type

01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:28.000
of deal like it depending on how long these musicians

01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:30.639
have been together if they know you know if this

01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:32.719
is going to speed up here and stuff like that

01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:36.619
that's to me like that's how a band is fucking

01:02:36.619 --> 01:02:38.280
money you know what i'm saying like they kind

01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:40.639
of know each other's where they're going with

01:02:40.639 --> 01:02:43.920
this in this particular moment of the song and

01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:47.619
uh because in concert you really can't have a

01:02:47.619 --> 01:02:50.480
click track or something i'm guessing um oh you

01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:53.300
can oh you can i mean yeah Our last few tours,

01:02:53.420 --> 01:02:55.900
you know, live in 17, 18, 19, we were using a

01:02:55.900 --> 01:02:58.760
click, but I think, I think I only had the click

01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:00.840
and they would just play along to me, but it

01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:02.480
was, we were running the lights off of it at

01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:04.159
that point. And, you know, doing all this stuff

01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:07.599
and not for every song, but for some songs and

01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:11.239
sometimes I would bail out of it though. Well,

01:03:11.320 --> 01:03:13.179
yeah. Cause it's like, you know, I would think

01:03:13.179 --> 01:03:15.860
you're keeping your own, you know, your own timing

01:03:15.860 --> 01:03:17.900
and stuff as you're a musician. So it's like

01:03:17.900 --> 01:03:20.969
to have that. click streak just on the same thing

01:03:20.969 --> 01:03:22.510
all the time. It seems like it would just be,

01:03:22.550 --> 01:03:24.989
I don't know, throw, throw, throw myself off

01:03:24.989 --> 01:03:26.909
or something as I'm jamming. Cause it's like,

01:03:26.949 --> 01:03:29.170
you know, I don't know. My hand's not always

01:03:29.170 --> 01:03:31.250
on a beat or something. It's kind of in between

01:03:31.250 --> 01:03:33.309
or something. And then I would hear a click and

01:03:33.309 --> 01:03:35.289
I'd be like, Oh, maybe I'm off here. Dave, did

01:03:35.289 --> 01:03:37.230
you ever see that video that I don't know what

01:03:37.230 --> 01:03:39.090
band it was and what drummer it was, but he,

01:03:39.210 --> 01:03:41.210
his ear and the ears went out and he was on a

01:03:41.210 --> 01:03:44.090
click and his, his tech was in back of him tapping

01:03:44.090 --> 01:03:47.849
on his back with the click. And he finished the

01:03:47.849 --> 01:03:50.760
song. I was like, wow. That's pretty, yeah. What

01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:53.460
a good tech, man. I wish I got to know who that

01:03:53.460 --> 01:03:55.420
guy was. Yeah. The tech was amazing. Obviously

01:03:55.420 --> 01:03:57.440
I don't know who the drummer was, but the video

01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:00.000
was on Instagram a couple of times. Wow. I'll

01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:02.059
have to look that up. Yeah. It's terrifying.

01:04:02.840 --> 01:04:07.679
Yeah. I, I was, I played live a lot in the eighties

01:04:07.679 --> 01:04:16.099
to a click band I was in. And yeah, there was,

01:04:16.099 --> 01:04:19.519
there were prerecorded. tracks you know it's

01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:23.840
it's interesting because it can you know and

01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:27.519
panel box we did that for a while okay and uh

01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:31.000
i hated it you know it's just like if it's a

01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:35.519
rock band i mean you know let it rock i say just

01:04:35.519 --> 01:04:40.199
you know count it in and um but yeah back in

01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:47.210
the 80s we did that a lot i i do recall um But,

01:04:47.210 --> 01:04:49.289
you know, it's interesting, like, in Unified

01:04:49.289 --> 01:04:53.369
Theory, we had some, there was pre -recorded

01:04:53.369 --> 01:04:57.710
stuff, so we were debating, should we use, like,

01:04:57.809 --> 01:05:00.869
pads? I was supposed to use pads. Oh, really?

01:05:01.030 --> 01:05:03.809
Okay. Trigger samples. Uh -huh. Because there's

01:05:03.809 --> 01:05:07.929
so many samples going on in those songs. And

01:05:07.929 --> 01:05:10.250
in the end, I was kind of dreading it, because

01:05:10.250 --> 01:05:13.030
it's like, I'd never used, like, the Octapad,

01:05:13.030 --> 01:05:16.170
you know, whatever it is, the Roland SPBX, whatever.

01:05:16.480 --> 01:05:23.679
Yeah. And then in the 80s, I never ran anything.

01:05:23.739 --> 01:05:26.159
The keyboard player ran everything. I had a click,

01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:29.800
but I didn't have to run any of the pre -recorded

01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:34.300
stuff. So in Unified Theory, we kind of started

01:05:34.300 --> 01:05:39.159
out, that was the plan. And it never really came

01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:42.139
to fruition. So it was great because Brad got

01:05:42.139 --> 01:05:46.909
those Taurus pedals. And this did everything

01:05:46.909 --> 01:05:50.989
with the Taurus pedals. Oh, wow. So it wasn't,

01:05:50.989 --> 01:05:54.969
we never used a click. It wasn't prerecorded

01:05:54.969 --> 01:06:00.730
tracks. He played the samples, which was because

01:06:00.730 --> 01:06:04.449
he was playing bass and singing and playing.

01:06:05.690 --> 01:06:09.809
It was like, thank you. Wow. That's some coordination

01:06:09.809 --> 01:06:13.460
right there. I mean, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Oh,

01:06:13.460 --> 01:06:16.039
yeah, absolutely. That guy's a freak. He's so

01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:18.400
talented. Yeah, for those, for 17, 18, 19, we

01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:21.019
went out, I think it was actually Chad who took

01:06:21.019 --> 01:06:24.800
the original songs and tempo mapped them and

01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:27.940
made a clip of that. So I was playing, you know,

01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:30.619
basically a click that was mapped to like I Alone

01:06:30.619 --> 01:06:33.420
or Lightning Crashes. So it still had the flow,

01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:36.780
you know, the tempo going up and down here and

01:06:36.780 --> 01:06:38.820
there depending on chorus or verse, whatever.

01:06:39.619 --> 01:06:41.880
So that was a little easier for me to do, but

01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:45.630
like a straight. hard click is you know they

01:06:45.630 --> 01:06:49.949
say i alone was a uh a lot of strippers like

01:06:49.949 --> 01:06:52.150
to come out to that song because it starts off

01:06:52.150 --> 01:06:56.769
back in the day they did yeah baby uh and then

01:06:56.769 --> 01:06:58.969
you know i alone would love them in the back

01:06:58.969 --> 01:07:05.949
room and all that jazz um sorry uh jerry see

01:07:05.949 --> 01:07:08.469
those uh somebody a musician on stage like a

01:07:08.469 --> 01:07:11.739
solo artist where they start layering like parts

01:07:11.739 --> 01:07:13.960
that they're playing whether it's vocal parts

01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:17.260
or guitar parts or you know a bongo that they

01:07:17.260 --> 01:07:19.480
have set up it's like oh like ed sheeran does

01:07:19.480 --> 01:07:23.340
yes yes does he do that i've never seen him but

01:07:23.340 --> 01:07:26.960
yeah it's amazing when guys do that it's mind

01:07:26.960 --> 01:07:29.199
-blowing i'm like how the fuck are they real

01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:31.500
like because i've seen howie day was an artist

01:07:31.500 --> 01:07:33.699
that did it but i've seen ed sheeran do it uh

01:07:33.699 --> 01:07:35.739
you know but it seems like it's like they're

01:07:35.739 --> 01:07:38.500
playing something i guess it's recording And

01:07:38.500 --> 01:07:41.760
then they could stop it, make it so it's still

01:07:41.760 --> 01:07:43.800
not coming out, and then kind of click it on

01:07:43.800 --> 01:07:45.820
when they want to and stuff like that. And it's

01:07:45.820 --> 01:07:48.699
all in the same time. Like, that seems so fucking

01:07:48.699 --> 01:07:51.840
complicated to keep in your head, clicking on,

01:07:51.960 --> 01:07:54.940
clicking off. And it just seems crazy to witness.

01:07:57.099 --> 01:07:59.539
So, I mean, have you guys ever worked with an

01:07:59.539 --> 01:08:02.360
artist or anything that has done stuff like that?

01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:05.980
I haven't, but there was a guy in L .A. chad

01:08:05.980 --> 01:08:08.699
maybe you've seen him um a producer i'm blanking

01:08:08.699 --> 01:08:12.179
on his name a freaky talented guy did like the

01:08:12.179 --> 01:08:15.500
fiona apple records and he's done tons of stuff

01:08:15.500 --> 01:08:20.020
but uh he would do club the largo the club largo

01:08:20.020 --> 01:08:24.000
in la okay he uh i saw him a few times and he

01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:26.880
did that just one man man he'd get a beat going

01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:31.020
so sick stomp a pedal and so by the time you

01:08:31.020 --> 01:08:33.439
know you'd have like a whole you know, guitar,

01:08:33.479 --> 01:08:36.399
bass, drums, and then he'd get on the upright

01:08:36.399 --> 01:08:39.680
piano. Let's do it real time like that. Yeah.

01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:43.920
Yeah. In front of the audience. Yeah. He'd do

01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:46.979
Beatles tunes day in the life. He did that one.

01:08:47.539 --> 01:08:51.500
Wow. Wow. He'd sing at the end. Yeah. So I've

01:08:51.500 --> 01:08:54.779
seen that, you know, I saw that guy do it. It's

01:08:54.779 --> 01:08:57.199
really cool. Yeah. Ed Sheeran definitely does

01:08:57.199 --> 01:09:00.390
it. And he was, we were in Australia. 17 or 18

01:09:00.390 --> 01:09:03.710
and he was down there doing stadiums. Yep. By

01:09:03.710 --> 01:09:09.390
himself. Yep. That's so crazy. I saw him. Recording

01:09:09.390 --> 01:09:11.470
it and then playing it back and singing to it.

01:09:11.529 --> 01:09:14.489
Amazing. He was on like the 4k channel and playing

01:09:14.489 --> 01:09:17.229
Wembley by himself. I didn't really see it, but

01:09:17.229 --> 01:09:22.630
it's like, that's pretty impressive. Yeah. Maximum

01:09:22.630 --> 01:09:28.960
promise. Yeah. Right. And. like the he said he

01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:31.260
learned how to sing because he was i heard him

01:09:31.260 --> 01:09:33.579
being interviewed i think on howard stern and

01:09:33.579 --> 01:09:35.619
howard's like you know you got to be born with

01:09:35.619 --> 01:09:37.399
this voice or whatever he's like no he's like

01:09:37.399 --> 01:09:39.600
when i started singing i you know it was horrible

01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:41.979
i had to learn how to do it howard's like all

01:09:41.979 --> 01:09:44.359
right well maybe you sounded horrible to yourself

01:09:44.359 --> 01:09:47.159
or something he's like but there's no way you

01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:49.500
you know like you're not naturally born with

01:09:49.500 --> 01:09:51.060
that or something and you learned it because

01:09:51.060 --> 01:09:54.979
he's got complete like vocal like range he's

01:09:54.979 --> 01:09:58.180
got complete control over it it's like and he

01:09:58.180 --> 01:10:00.079
was young it seemed when he first like started

01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:01.840
putting out music you know like i don't know

01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:07.119
how old he is now but um that that song um what

01:10:07.119 --> 01:10:10.239
is it even the best fall down sometimes uh i

01:10:10.239 --> 01:10:12.380
forgot it was like one of his first like kind

01:10:12.380 --> 01:10:14.300
of love poppy songs that came out and i'm like

01:10:14.300 --> 01:10:16.640
didn't realize it was him at first and then started

01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:20.399
hearing more music that i was like holy um what

01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:21.539
the hell was the name of that song he's singing

01:10:21.539 --> 01:10:24.350
oh He was talking about a crackhead. And in a

01:10:24.350 --> 01:10:27.630
pipe, she flies to the motherland. Goes out for

01:10:27.630 --> 01:10:31.810
another man. You guys don't know what I'm talking

01:10:31.810 --> 01:10:34.449
about, do you? No. I mean, I know Ed Sheeran.

01:10:34.489 --> 01:10:37.090
I'm not big. Yeah. I'm not familiar with this

01:10:37.090 --> 01:10:39.310
guy. And in a pipe, she flies to. He's talking

01:10:39.310 --> 01:10:40.909
about a girl, like, basically hitting a crack

01:10:40.909 --> 01:10:43.789
pipe and going off to the motherland and all

01:10:43.789 --> 01:10:46.810
this stuff like that. And it sounds like a romantic

01:10:46.810 --> 01:10:49.520
song he's singing, but. I guess, you know, it's

01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:51.680
a kind of a tragic song that he's singing about,

01:10:51.779 --> 01:10:54.939
I guess, some girl or whatever. But it's just

01:10:54.939 --> 01:10:57.439
crazy that he has all those different ranges

01:10:57.439 --> 01:11:00.079
and stuff. Does it from an acoustic guitar? He's

01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:03.779
adding like a guitar and add like a drum beat

01:11:03.779 --> 01:11:06.340
to it or something. It's talented. It's crazy.

01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:11.899
Are there any new drummers you like, Dave? Or

01:11:11.899 --> 01:11:16.500
anyone that stands out to you? Not by name necessarily.

01:11:19.370 --> 01:11:23.109
I hear a lot of guys that I'm super impressed

01:11:23.109 --> 01:11:27.649
with, but I really keep track. You know what

01:11:27.649 --> 01:11:31.510
I mean? Yeah. I like Ben Thatcher from Royal

01:11:31.510 --> 01:11:35.670
Blood. Have you heard Royal Blood? I think so,

01:11:35.770 --> 01:11:37.829
yeah. I think I've heard that band. Two -piece

01:11:37.829 --> 01:11:41.869
band. Oh, yes. Yes, I have heard them. That guy's

01:11:41.869 --> 01:11:45.149
amazing. He makes his bass sound like guitar

01:11:45.149 --> 01:11:48.920
and sings. yeah yeah that guy's a drummer i like

01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:52.640
he's a freak yeah i've only heard i've never

01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:54.739
seen like the band or whatever i've heard like

01:11:54.739 --> 01:11:57.439
uh some of their songs as it goes on like streaming

01:11:57.439 --> 01:11:59.079
it comes out in the playlist i didn't know it

01:11:59.079 --> 01:12:01.579
was a two -piece band and uh and all that that's

01:12:01.579 --> 01:12:04.880
fucking legit they get like rocking it sounds

01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:08.579
like a full oh yeah full thing pretty amazing

01:12:08.579 --> 01:12:14.020
uh Dave, I don't know how long you have here,

01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:16.100
but usually we bring the guests on and always

01:12:16.100 --> 01:12:18.420
leave the audience wanting more. So if you have

01:12:18.420 --> 01:12:21.539
like 10 more minutes, man, we're happy to have

01:12:21.539 --> 01:12:24.779
you stay on with it. I just didn't want to hold

01:12:24.779 --> 01:12:29.220
you up. Cool. So I have another question for

01:12:29.220 --> 01:12:35.239
you, too, from the Pearl Jam 10 album. There's

01:12:35.239 --> 01:12:39.159
like unreleased songs that like footsteps being

01:12:39.159 --> 01:12:42.039
one of them. Do you know a song, that song that

01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:43.760
I'm talking about? I think it was from Pearl

01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:48.060
jam 10 that came out years ago. And I believe

01:12:48.060 --> 01:12:50.319
you were the drummer on it. Cause I was looking

01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:53.239
up the Wikipedia page and it said the song footsteps

01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:57.319
that you were the drummer on it. I don't think

01:12:57.319 --> 01:13:00.680
so. Oh, there's some, there's, there's some stuff

01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:04.380
like yellow lead better. people ask me and i

01:13:04.380 --> 01:13:07.020
did play drums on that song okay i was to say

01:13:07.020 --> 01:13:09.659
it said you did on that too and there's a ton

01:13:09.659 --> 01:13:12.439
of stuff we did a mud honey cover touch me i'm

01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:15.079
sick but we did touch me i'm dick because it

01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:21.380
was citizen dick nice that uh singles movie um

01:13:21.380 --> 01:13:25.600
most the band was the band his band in that movie

01:13:25.600 --> 01:13:28.859
or whatever so we did that and we did uh wishing

01:13:28.859 --> 01:13:34.949
well by free Oh, predated bad company. Is that

01:13:34.949 --> 01:13:41.689
the way? Well, it's different. It's cool. Like

01:13:41.689 --> 01:13:44.789
I heard it recently and I was like, Oh my God,

01:13:44.810 --> 01:13:47.390
I forgot all about this. It's a trip, but we

01:13:47.390 --> 01:13:51.149
did a ton of stuff. And I got to see their vault

01:13:51.149 --> 01:13:55.170
in Seattle, their warehouse when we did the hall

01:13:55.170 --> 01:13:59.090
of fame rehearsals. And it's like this. you know

01:13:59.090 --> 01:14:02.909
temperature controlled alarms go off they get

01:14:02.909 --> 01:14:08.250
right you know get alerted the crew uh but it's

01:14:08.250 --> 01:14:11.489
just like rows of tape it's pretty cool we did

01:14:11.489 --> 01:14:13.630
a lot it must have been a lot different to like

01:14:13.630 --> 01:14:16.310
do time with them and be there at the beginning

01:14:16.310 --> 01:14:18.289
and then go back when they have the established

01:14:18.289 --> 01:14:21.689
hq where they yeah all their gear and all their

01:14:21.689 --> 01:14:24.130
all their tapes and everything stored it must

01:14:24.130 --> 01:14:26.449
have been cool It was cool. Eddie took me on

01:14:26.449 --> 01:14:28.829
a little tour. He's like, you remember that?

01:14:28.970 --> 01:14:31.710
And I was like, I remember that. And then Jeff

01:14:31.710 --> 01:14:35.970
made the wood cutouts of the name that we took

01:14:35.970 --> 01:14:39.350
photos. Oh, right. The album cover. Cool. Wow.

01:14:39.510 --> 01:14:43.670
That's still there. And yeah, a lot of the early

01:14:43.670 --> 01:14:45.829
stuff like that. That was cool. And then he's

01:14:45.829 --> 01:14:48.350
got this insane room. They got, you go through

01:14:48.350 --> 01:14:51.930
this door and he's got this batting cage and

01:14:51.930 --> 01:14:55.670
his baseball. memorabilia is just ridiculous

01:14:55.670 --> 01:14:59.850
and then jeff's just got a half pipe okay nice

01:14:59.850 --> 01:15:02.470
full on and then over here is there's mike's

01:15:02.470 --> 01:15:07.329
car it's the rockford files trans no way have

01:15:07.329 --> 01:15:11.069
you ever on a half pipe dude like i don't skateboard

01:15:11.069 --> 01:15:15.390
oh my god i bit it really early and i never went

01:15:15.390 --> 01:15:19.859
back to it It is the scariest thing in your life.

01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:23.560
Even like a small, like eight foot, you know,

01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:26.479
half pipe and stuff like the drop in on it is

01:15:26.479 --> 01:15:29.600
so fucking scary. The first time I did it, I

01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:32.560
was like, I don't know if, and I was like a decent

01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:34.779
ski, a skateboard driver, like on the streets

01:15:34.779 --> 01:15:37.699
and stuff like that. Like I could grind on curbs

01:15:37.699 --> 01:15:40.220
and do ollies and kickflips and stuff. But the

01:15:40.220 --> 01:15:42.560
first time I went to a skate park and tried a

01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:45.000
half pipe, dude, I was like, this is fucking

01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:49.039
nuts. Like, I don't know how you fucking do that.

01:15:49.119 --> 01:15:51.659
It just kind of out of nowhere. Cause it almost

01:15:51.659 --> 01:15:53.720
seems like you had to know how to do it before

01:15:53.720 --> 01:15:57.380
you could do it. It's like those guys know how

01:15:57.380 --> 01:16:00.300
to fall, you know, they know how to wipe out.

01:16:00.420 --> 01:16:05.699
And that's like half the, that also is impressive.

01:16:05.899 --> 01:16:09.279
Like, Whoa. Yeah. I skied when I was in my teens,

01:16:09.399 --> 01:16:13.119
you know, before. Oh, wow. And I would mess around

01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:15.060
on a quarter pipe, but I'd never dropped in on

01:16:15.060 --> 01:16:17.760
a half pipe. I just like, nah, I'm good. You

01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:21.739
guys rollerblade ever? No, I never rolled. Rollerblading

01:16:21.739 --> 01:16:25.520
was cool. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's always been

01:16:25.520 --> 01:16:27.859
looked at as like a fucking fruity, fruity thing

01:16:27.859 --> 01:16:30.439
to do. But, you know, you could get cool with

01:16:30.439 --> 01:16:32.840
those two. And like they made ones with grinding

01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:36.199
plates on them. And, you know, you go to. we

01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:38.380
had parking garages in Rutherford where the,

01:16:38.460 --> 01:16:41.119
you know, a parking garage and we would use all

01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:44.039
the rails and stuff that they had, you know,

01:16:44.039 --> 01:16:46.079
so cars couldn't drive through it, a fucking

01:16:46.079 --> 01:16:49.300
grind on and like little speed bump jumps and

01:16:49.300 --> 01:16:52.760
stuff like that. That sounds, yes. Rollerblading

01:16:52.760 --> 01:16:55.500
was always looked at as like a fruity type of

01:16:55.500 --> 01:16:57.520
thing, but it was cool, man. It was like another

01:16:57.520 --> 01:17:01.100
thing. Dave, sorry. I want to ask you, how old

01:17:01.100 --> 01:17:03.640
were you when you got into like drums and like

01:17:03.640 --> 01:17:06.729
picked up, you know, sticks or whatever and started

01:17:06.729 --> 01:17:08.470
to learn that. And also part of that question

01:17:08.470 --> 01:17:12.909
is who are your influences? Yes. Yes. Well, when

01:17:12.909 --> 01:17:17.930
I was a kid up the street here, like kiss alive

01:17:17.930 --> 01:17:21.130
and kiss alive to those, like, I was like, man,

01:17:21.229 --> 01:17:23.050
I want to do that. You know what I mean? This

01:17:23.050 --> 01:17:26.090
is amazing. When you're, you know, I was nine

01:17:26.090 --> 01:17:31.109
or 10 or whatever, something like that. But so

01:17:31.109 --> 01:17:34.340
Peter, Chris was a big influence. Cool. And I

01:17:34.340 --> 01:17:36.220
would say him, I don't know if Hal Blaine played

01:17:36.220 --> 01:17:38.479
on the live stuff. Who knows? He may have. I

01:17:38.479 --> 01:17:41.180
don't know. But those were the records that really

01:17:41.180 --> 01:17:44.079
like floated my boat. Like I got into the studio

01:17:44.079 --> 01:17:47.060
albums later. So when I first got into Kiss,

01:17:47.159 --> 01:17:50.939
it was the live stuff. Got it. Bunny Carlos,

01:17:51.439 --> 01:17:55.439
you know, so I was like eight, nine, ten, nine,

01:17:55.579 --> 01:17:58.739
ten. I started on snare drumming in school band.

01:17:59.739 --> 01:18:04.409
And, you know, so I played the snare. And then

01:18:04.409 --> 01:18:06.810
I just, like, bugged my mom until she gave me

01:18:06.810 --> 01:18:10.489
and bought me a drum kit. My oldest brother,

01:18:10.729 --> 01:18:15.210
Larry, had a snare, purple sparkle pearl snare

01:18:15.210 --> 01:18:18.329
that I found in a closet down in our basement.

01:18:18.649 --> 01:18:23.010
Wow. And I was just like, what the? And so then

01:18:23.010 --> 01:18:26.489
I played snare. Then I got a kit when I was about

01:18:26.489 --> 01:18:30.930
11 or 12. And my buddy, George Janovich, taught

01:18:30.930 --> 01:18:34.649
me my first beat. cool and uh so yeah it was

01:18:34.649 --> 01:18:40.609
like um you know i my brother's 11 years older

01:18:40.609 --> 01:18:46.729
than me so he had zeppelin um aerosmith like

01:18:46.729 --> 01:18:49.850
that those bands were a huge influence on me

01:18:49.850 --> 01:18:53.489
like yeah early on you know what i mean and then

01:18:53.489 --> 01:18:59.590
uh who else got just all the classic stuff back

01:18:59.590 --> 01:19:04.350
in the day um Bonham's son pick off kind of where

01:19:04.350 --> 01:19:07.109
his dad left off in Led Zeppelin now, which is

01:19:07.109 --> 01:19:10.710
kind of crazy. You never would have thought he

01:19:10.710 --> 01:19:13.010
could, you know, cause John Bonham goes down

01:19:13.010 --> 01:19:15.529
as like one of the legendary rock drummers of

01:19:15.529 --> 01:19:17.869
all time. And now you hear his son behind the

01:19:17.869 --> 01:19:19.829
kit kind of filling in the shoes. It's, it's

01:19:19.829 --> 01:19:24.029
crazy. So that's a great influence to, to get

01:19:24.029 --> 01:19:26.789
for you. Did you take a lessons for like the

01:19:26.789 --> 01:19:28.850
snare drumming and like marching band kind of

01:19:28.850 --> 01:19:32.600
stuff or? Just the teacher I had in school. I

01:19:32.600 --> 01:19:35.840
had some really good teachers. And then, so I

01:19:35.840 --> 01:19:40.100
played in band. And then I started high school

01:19:40.100 --> 01:19:42.619
and I was in the eighth grade so that I was going

01:19:42.619 --> 01:19:47.159
to play in the jazz band. But then I kind of

01:19:47.159 --> 01:19:50.659
got recruited into the jazz choir group, which

01:19:50.659 --> 01:19:53.979
was a small choir that did like jazz standards.

01:19:54.279 --> 01:19:57.840
Okay. And I got to play the kit. by myself it

01:19:57.840 --> 01:20:02.420
was me a piano player bass guitar it's a small

01:20:02.420 --> 01:20:05.939
band that played for the choir oh well the choir

01:20:05.939 --> 01:20:08.979
was like 12 people and that was great that's

01:20:08.979 --> 01:20:12.359
where i really learned to play in a group right

01:20:12.359 --> 01:20:14.300
you know because i played in bands when i was

01:20:14.300 --> 01:20:18.039
a little kid you know right 13 14 but that's

01:20:18.039 --> 01:20:21.680
when it got that's when i really learned a lot

01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:24.260
we had a great teacher did competitions you know

01:20:24.520 --> 01:20:27.560
Flew to Michigan. Like that got serious. And

01:20:27.560 --> 01:20:30.960
so I learned a lot there. Yeah. Do you have a

01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:33.880
lot of jazz influences? Like jazz drummer? Okay.

01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:36.140
Yeah. Buddy Rich. I actually got to see Buddy

01:20:36.140 --> 01:20:40.899
Rich. No way. Yeah. In 80, I think 82. It was

01:20:40.899 --> 01:20:44.539
mind blowing. Wow. Yeah. So all the jazz drummers

01:20:44.539 --> 01:20:48.220
that I grew up listening to, mostly big band

01:20:48.220 --> 01:20:53.640
guys, you know, Louis Bells and Buddy Rich. Gene

01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:57.180
Krupa, of course. Yeah. Billie Holiday, I know,

01:20:57.199 --> 01:21:01.159
was a jazz drummer. I'm just kidding. Yeah. She

01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:03.739
was a funny guy. Yeah. Oh, she's one of my favorites.

01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:07.720
I, you know, I'll listen to her constantly, really.

01:21:07.880 --> 01:21:10.979
If I'm walking around, like, a city or something,

01:21:11.020 --> 01:21:14.779
I'll listen to her, like, nonstop. Wasn't there

01:21:14.779 --> 01:21:17.439
a drum off between Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich?

01:21:17.479 --> 01:21:20.779
Yeah. I have that. I have that record. Wow. Oh,

01:21:20.800 --> 01:21:23.880
wow. Nice. I remember watching that on YouTube

01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:25.439
or somewhere. I was like, holy shit, that's amazing.

01:21:26.199 --> 01:21:30.239
Dave, do you find it easier? I'm sorry. Were

01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:32.239
you going to say, because I had a quick question

01:21:32.239 --> 01:21:35.380
for you about learning an instrument now. Did

01:21:35.380 --> 01:21:37.260
you find it, because you're starting to fuck

01:21:37.260 --> 01:21:38.720
around with the guitar and stuff now, do you

01:21:38.720 --> 01:21:43.680
find it easier as a kid to kind of pick up the

01:21:43.680 --> 01:21:45.960
instrument and master it? Or is it easier as

01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:47.979
an adult to kind of pick up another instrument

01:21:47.979 --> 01:21:52.460
and start to learn it? well like kind of what

01:21:52.460 --> 01:21:54.720
was the you know like an easier learning process

01:21:54.720 --> 01:21:58.239
for you or like have you really not discovered

01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:02.659
what well yeah as a kid i mean i was so hungry

01:22:02.659 --> 01:22:05.279
for it like my rudiments and all that chad you

01:22:05.279 --> 01:22:07.020
probably did the same thing it was like i was

01:22:07.020 --> 01:22:13.960
so into it and really focused on all the rudiments

01:22:13.960 --> 01:22:17.020
and so i got pretty good on the snare drum And

01:22:17.020 --> 01:22:19.260
I think it was a lot easier to learn. And so

01:22:19.260 --> 01:22:21.420
now it's like, I really don't know what I'm doing

01:22:21.420 --> 01:22:27.260
on guitar, but you know, and it's like, I don't

01:22:27.260 --> 01:22:30.060
really, I'm not worried about learning all that

01:22:30.060 --> 01:22:32.220
much. I had a lot of really talented friends

01:22:32.220 --> 01:22:34.960
growing up and somebody showed me a scale or

01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:39.000
a couple of chords and I had a friend that was

01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:42.380
really good at theory. So he would drop some

01:22:42.380 --> 01:22:45.100
things on me that I still remember that were

01:22:45.100 --> 01:22:49.180
just real simple. but real helpful, you know,

01:22:49.180 --> 01:22:51.279
and now just for dinking around. And then I took

01:22:51.279 --> 01:22:55.539
some piano lessons, just a couple. Rock on. That,

01:22:55.659 --> 01:22:59.600
that too. It's like, I took some Spanish in high

01:22:59.600 --> 01:23:01.859
school and I remember just enough, you know,

01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:03.920
I don't, I can't speak it, but I can, you know,

01:23:03.920 --> 01:23:06.119
there's just some little nuggets. Yeah. You can

01:23:06.119 --> 01:23:09.739
understand. Yeah. Sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Some

01:23:09.739 --> 01:23:14.140
little like root points that. No habla espanol.

01:23:16.410 --> 01:23:21.409
Um, so, so Dave, let me on piano poquito. There

01:23:21.409 --> 01:23:25.409
you go. Um, on piano. So on guitar, I know there's

01:23:25.409 --> 01:23:27.310
like power chords and stuff like that, that you

01:23:27.310 --> 01:23:30.130
could move up and down the fret and those bar

01:23:30.130 --> 01:23:32.210
chords and it's open chords, but yeah. Yeah.

01:23:32.229 --> 01:23:34.289
Well, I guess I meant by power chords, the bar

01:23:34.289 --> 01:23:38.829
chords, uh, you know, um, so is it the same kind

01:23:38.829 --> 01:23:40.970
of on piano? If you're picking out chords, like

01:23:40.970 --> 01:23:43.090
are there fingerings of chords that you can move

01:23:43.090 --> 01:23:45.810
up and down? on the thing and they're your fingers

01:23:45.810 --> 01:23:47.609
kind of stay in the same position but you go

01:23:47.609 --> 01:23:50.829
to it makes yeah words oh okay yeah for the most

01:23:50.829 --> 01:23:53.789
part or you can just play like i do maybe two

01:23:53.789 --> 01:23:57.489
two notes of a chord and then i put tape on my

01:23:57.489 --> 01:24:01.409
keyboard so you know where to stop where to yeah

01:24:01.409 --> 01:24:04.510
where the notes i'm playing okay his scale i'm

01:24:04.510 --> 01:24:08.550
just gonna play you know then i like to uh just

01:24:08.550 --> 01:24:12.789
really affect the sound yeah cool there's so

01:24:12.789 --> 01:24:15.340
much you could do with that Yeah, and it's like,

01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:20.560
that helps. Do you know Chopsticks on the piano?

01:24:20.600 --> 01:24:23.300
I know a lot of people learn. Yeah, my friend

01:24:23.300 --> 01:24:27.560
Christina, she's probably listening. If she's

01:24:27.560 --> 01:24:30.239
out there, Tune Addict is her Instagram page.

01:24:30.420 --> 01:24:32.739
She goes to concerts, takes pictures and stuff.

01:24:32.779 --> 01:24:36.859
She's a cool chick. Check it out. When she was

01:24:36.859 --> 01:24:39.920
learning that song, she would play it. over and

01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:43.680
over and over and drove me and she's her parents

01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:48.659
and i'm like all right enough i've heard that

01:24:48.659 --> 01:24:51.100
a hundred times that wasn't chopsticks by the

01:24:51.100 --> 01:24:53.520
way but oh yeah i was gonna say like what is

01:24:53.520 --> 01:24:56.399
that that's like some like japanese thing or

01:24:56.399 --> 01:25:07.819
like oriental like Yeah. Okay. Got you. So this

01:25:07.819 --> 01:25:11.199
was chopsticks part two, the Chinese edition

01:25:11.199 --> 01:25:15.880
that I was doing the copy of a chopstick. So

01:25:15.880 --> 01:25:18.840
no. So yeah, whatever song she was learning,

01:25:18.859 --> 01:25:21.359
it was that. And it was, it was an Oriental thing.

01:25:21.399 --> 01:25:24.899
That's why I thought it was chopsticks. Don't

01:25:24.899 --> 01:25:29.119
mind me folks. But, Dave, so, yeah, we have a

01:25:29.119 --> 01:25:31.220
ton more questions for you and stuff, but we

01:25:31.220 --> 01:25:33.579
want to get you back to your day and stuff and

01:25:33.579 --> 01:25:35.800
have you on again. We always leave the audience

01:25:35.800 --> 01:25:38.979
wanting more and stuff, but it's really been

01:25:38.979 --> 01:25:42.520
an honor to have you on the show. Absolutely.

01:25:42.520 --> 01:25:44.920
Thanks, guys. And seriously, and get some of

01:25:44.920 --> 01:25:47.159
these insights into, you know, the band you've

01:25:47.159 --> 01:25:50.600
been a part of and recording processes. Appreciate

01:25:50.600 --> 01:25:53.770
it. you know, how you started off and stuff like

01:25:53.770 --> 01:25:56.529
that. So for real, thank you for coming on. I

01:25:56.529 --> 01:25:58.729
know the gracious audience was really excited

01:25:58.729 --> 01:26:00.949
about this and they're going to have a ton of

01:26:00.949 --> 01:26:02.770
stuff in the comments and stuff and questions.

01:26:02.810 --> 01:26:05.229
So we'd be honored to have you back on again.

01:26:05.890 --> 01:26:08.989
And it's my honor guys. Seriously. Thanks for

01:26:08.989 --> 01:26:12.470
having me on. Good to see you, Chad. And if I'm

01:26:12.470 --> 01:26:14.630
in Seattle, I'll look you up. And if you come

01:26:14.630 --> 01:26:17.569
back down to California. Yeah. Please do. I'll

01:26:17.569 --> 01:26:20.850
be back down your way real soon. Hit me up on

01:26:20.850 --> 01:26:23.890
Instagram or whatever. Together. I'd love to

01:26:23.890 --> 01:26:28.010
hang out. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Awesome.

01:26:28.189 --> 01:26:32.529
Thanks, guys. Thank you. Take care. Two legendary

01:26:32.529 --> 01:26:38.449
drummers on The Gracious Two. What is up, ladies

01:26:38.449 --> 01:26:42.810
and gentlemen? That was absolutely fun to be

01:26:42.810 --> 01:26:48.039
a part of. That was amazing to hear, you know,

01:26:48.039 --> 01:26:52.659
these two drummers spit shop and talk, you know,

01:26:52.659 --> 01:26:55.359
how they did stuff and recorded stuff. It was

01:26:55.359 --> 01:26:58.300
just a treat to be a part of, man. Chad, did

01:26:58.300 --> 01:26:59.680
you have a good time on it? I had a great time.

01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:01.680
It was always great to talk to a drummer, especially

01:27:01.680 --> 01:27:05.279
a legendary drummer. So that was great. Got to

01:27:05.279 --> 01:27:06.720
ask him some questions I've always wanted to

01:27:06.720 --> 01:27:08.659
know, especially that Eddie Vedder coming in

01:27:08.659 --> 01:27:11.710
at the end and singing all the songs. finds out

01:27:11.710 --> 01:27:16.210
it's bullshit ah yes uh are we gonna do bobby's

01:27:16.210 --> 01:27:17.670
world because i got to get my power supply my

01:27:17.670 --> 01:27:20.130
computer's about to die oh shit yeah bobby uh

01:27:20.130 --> 01:27:22.890
hang on a second bobby you come on and uh we're

01:27:22.890 --> 01:27:25.729
gonna we're gonna do that bobby's world section

01:27:25.729 --> 01:27:29.149
and uh chad's gonna go get plugged in while we're

01:27:29.149 --> 01:27:32.689
doing it uh that was uh that was fun for me bob

01:27:32.689 --> 01:27:34.569
how was that how was that for you my man did

01:27:34.569 --> 01:27:36.829
you uh did you enjoy you're asking me questions

01:27:36.829 --> 01:27:42.609
through the chat and i'm like dude That was great.

01:27:42.869 --> 01:27:46.329
That was great. Don't distract me with a dumb

01:27:46.329 --> 01:27:49.510
question. Chad, did you see that? How many kids

01:27:49.510 --> 01:27:53.050
does Ed have? I'm like, Ed? Who? No, I was just

01:27:53.050 --> 01:27:55.489
wondering. I was just wondering because I've

01:27:55.489 --> 01:27:59.390
never seen him in the public eye. Well, next

01:27:59.390 --> 01:28:03.409
time, Google it, buddy. Asking us on the show.

01:28:03.529 --> 01:28:06.569
I'm like, this is my guy. I'm like, what does

01:28:06.569 --> 01:28:09.640
that have to do with this? I'm like, Ed? Better?

01:28:09.960 --> 01:28:12.380
Who are you going here with? Oh, that's for you.

01:28:12.479 --> 01:28:15.140
Okay, I see. You got to love Bobby. You got to

01:28:15.140 --> 01:28:18.140
love Bobby. And that's why Bob A's world is coming

01:28:18.140 --> 01:28:22.199
on. Okay. All right, Bobby, let's talk about

01:28:22.199 --> 01:28:24.239
the NYSE and the glitch yesterday. I didn't see

01:28:24.239 --> 01:28:27.680
that, but it sounds fascinating. Yes. Well, it

01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:34.239
started early in the morning. It started early

01:28:34.239 --> 01:28:38.630
in the morning. Supposedly, Berkshire Hathaway

01:28:38.630 --> 01:28:44.510
had dropped 90%. Were people able to buy it?

01:28:45.989 --> 01:28:48.470
You know what? They halted trading, actually.

01:28:48.909 --> 01:28:51.789
When it started glitching out, they halted trading.

01:28:51.789 --> 01:28:54.670
Somebody bought that shit at 90 % off. I mean,

01:28:54.750 --> 01:29:00.050
I'm sure somebody got somehow into the dip. But

01:29:00.050 --> 01:29:06.399
yeah, it ended up really dropping. Crazy. That

01:29:06.399 --> 01:29:09.939
was Berkshire Hathaway A, right? Yeah. I believe.

01:29:09.979 --> 01:29:13.119
Yeah. Christ, that's fucking wild, man. And then

01:29:13.119 --> 01:29:16.399
pop back up? Yeah, yeah. Now it's back to $400.

01:29:16.960 --> 01:29:21.119
Yeah. Jesus. So hopefully somebody bought in

01:29:21.119 --> 01:29:24.579
that dip section and is sitting on a nice little

01:29:24.579 --> 01:29:28.119
fat chunk today. Did you say $400? Is it $400

01:29:28.119 --> 01:29:33.500
,000 or $400? $400. $400. Berkshire Hathaway

01:29:33.500 --> 01:29:37.380
A used to be like... 40 grand, 50 grand. Oh,

01:29:37.380 --> 01:29:39.699
get the fuck out of here. Per share. Maybe they

01:29:39.699 --> 01:29:42.680
split it and did, I don't know. Yeah. I wanted

01:29:42.680 --> 01:29:47.140
to actually bring a couple, you know, cryptos

01:29:47.140 --> 01:29:52.460
to the public eye. And remember, we're not financial

01:29:52.460 --> 01:29:57.600
advisors here, folks. No, not at all. These are

01:29:57.600 --> 01:30:00.039
cryptos that I bought earlier. Are you sharing

01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:02.460
a screen here, Bob? Or are you just talking about

01:30:02.460 --> 01:30:04.960
it? Yeah. Yeah, I'm about to share my screen

01:30:04.960 --> 01:30:15.479
right now. I bought this at a $500 ,000 market

01:30:15.479 --> 01:30:21.300
cap. And you can already see it's at $7 million.

01:30:21.420 --> 01:30:25.060
You can see the volume is at $3 million. It's

01:30:25.060 --> 01:30:28.779
blowing up. It's going to continue to blow up.

01:30:28.859 --> 01:30:33.579
This is part of the Matt Fury Boys Club. He has

01:30:33.579 --> 01:30:38.979
a comic book and he has the characters Pepe,

01:30:39.340 --> 01:30:43.220
Brad. They're all meme coins that are out there

01:30:43.220 --> 01:30:47.359
right now. Also, here's another. It's called

01:30:47.359 --> 01:30:51.720
Turbo. When did Bird Dog come out, Bobby? When

01:30:51.720 --> 01:30:53.239
did it come out? How long has it been on the

01:30:53.239 --> 01:30:58.260
market? About three months, I believe. Okay.

01:30:59.020 --> 01:31:03.100
Yeah, this is Turbo. It was created using artificial

01:31:03.100 --> 01:31:09.060
intelligence and a budget of $64 using ChatGPT.

01:31:10.500 --> 01:31:16.979
This man named, I forget his name offhand, but

01:31:16.979 --> 01:31:20.140
he asked ChatGPT to create the next meme point

01:31:20.140 --> 01:31:23.899
that'll go to a billion dollar market cap. And

01:31:23.899 --> 01:31:27.640
this is what he created. And right now it's at

01:31:27.640 --> 01:31:31.199
half, Half a billion dollars. You see what the

01:31:31.199 --> 01:31:37.199
repeating number is? .0066. Yeah, yeah. Mark

01:31:37.199 --> 01:31:41.680
of the beast right there, folks. What exchange

01:31:41.680 --> 01:31:48.039
do you use to buy this stuff? I use Mexi. Mexi

01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:51.920
.com. You can use it as a VPN. Sign up with an

01:31:51.920 --> 01:31:55.319
email address, not your phone number. And you

01:31:55.319 --> 01:31:57.779
can get access to anything and then store it

01:31:57.779 --> 01:32:00.520
on cold storage right away. Right, yeah. Kraken

01:32:00.520 --> 01:32:08.720
is a good place to buy Bitcoins and all crypto.

01:32:09.300 --> 01:32:13.539
Kraken .com. You can get a Kraken Pro app and

01:32:13.539 --> 01:32:16.500
stuff like that. But it's a good exchange. You

01:32:16.500 --> 01:32:18.399
could have your own personal wallets. You could

01:32:18.399 --> 01:32:22.119
send to other wallets. But remember, people,

01:32:22.279 --> 01:32:27.579
that... it is all even bitcoin is not as untraceable

01:32:27.579 --> 01:32:32.560
as they once thought so uh you know be be smart

01:32:32.560 --> 01:32:36.579
with uh coins you're buying uh where you're sending

01:32:36.579 --> 01:32:39.899
what you're using it for because there's been

01:32:39.899 --> 01:32:42.500
nightmare stories out there where they've busted

01:32:42.500 --> 01:32:46.199
people on you know dark web app activity for

01:32:46.199 --> 01:32:49.680
selling stuff uh taking money and putting it

01:32:49.680 --> 01:32:52.970
in offshore accounts to not pay taxes on it and

01:32:52.970 --> 01:32:55.630
stuff like that so just be smart when you're

01:32:55.630 --> 01:32:58.869
fucking around with crypto and uh there's a lot

01:32:58.869 --> 01:33:01.430
of money to be made in the markets but again

01:33:01.430 --> 01:33:04.029
you got to do research and stuff like that like

01:33:04.029 --> 01:33:06.810
we'll just keep this here for right now so here's

01:33:06.810 --> 01:33:08.770
something you're learning during babe's world

01:33:08.770 --> 01:33:12.890
and he's telling you about turbo a new bit a

01:33:12.890 --> 01:33:15.970
new uh cryptocurrency that was created by artificial

01:33:15.970 --> 01:33:18.569
intelligence that's supposedly going to get to

01:33:18.569 --> 01:33:22.579
a billion dollar cap And we'll see how this coin

01:33:22.579 --> 01:33:25.260
plays out and see if it's something you should

01:33:25.260 --> 01:33:28.079
have been invested in or if it's something that

01:33:28.079 --> 01:33:31.840
flies by night. And then, you know, the coins

01:33:31.840 --> 01:33:35.159
there, the owner of the coin has it build up

01:33:35.159 --> 01:33:37.479
and then sells all his shares and drops it to

01:33:37.479 --> 01:33:40.960
a price and fucking exit. Well, actually, he

01:33:40.960 --> 01:33:44.819
sold he sold the majority. So it's pretty much

01:33:44.819 --> 01:33:50.149
a community run token now. And OK, so. I guess

01:33:50.149 --> 01:33:51.989
my question to you would be, how do you know

01:33:51.989 --> 01:33:56.090
that he sold all? You could check the wallets.

01:33:56.250 --> 01:33:59.710
You could check any wallet address. Right, but

01:33:59.710 --> 01:34:01.449
I'm saying, how do you know it's his wallet address?

01:34:01.529 --> 01:34:03.649
You looked and see to make sure that goes back

01:34:03.649 --> 01:34:06.149
to him. He doesn't have other wallets that he's

01:34:06.149 --> 01:34:09.810
buying. Well, yeah, I mean, that's a possibility.

01:34:10.609 --> 01:34:14.050
Yes, it is a possibility. Uh, that's why I'm

01:34:14.050 --> 01:34:16.069
saying people, you gotta be careful with, uh,

01:34:16.289 --> 01:34:18.210
there's a lot of money to be made in cryptocurrency,

01:34:18.390 --> 01:34:21.550
but there's a lot of shady shit that gets involved

01:34:21.550 --> 01:34:24.550
in it. Chad, I'm sure you heard of, uh, that,

01:34:24.609 --> 01:34:27.069
uh, I forget the fuck was the one coin, Bobby,

01:34:27.130 --> 01:34:31.229
not Ethereum, but, uh, not the XRP, but, uh,

01:34:31.350 --> 01:34:33.729
it was a big coin that everybody was buying on.

01:34:33.989 --> 01:34:36.890
And, uh, the owner of it, uh, the, the guy on

01:34:36.890 --> 01:34:42.510
the fucking that's, uh, Sam, yes. Oh, yes. That

01:34:42.510 --> 01:34:46.960
guy. So, dude, he had a bunch of celebrity endorsements,

01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:49.460
giving money to the Democratic Party, the Republican

01:34:49.460 --> 01:34:53.079
Party. So it all fucking seemed legit and stuff

01:34:53.079 --> 01:34:55.880
like that. But it turned out, you know, found

01:34:55.880 --> 01:34:57.840
out it's just a bunch of nerds on an island fucking

01:34:57.840 --> 01:35:00.539
partying with fucking. Yeah. Taking Adderall

01:35:00.539 --> 01:35:02.319
fucking each other and shit. They were living

01:35:02.319 --> 01:35:05.000
the life and making money off of fucking scamming

01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:07.680
people. It's like revenge on fucking steroids.

01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:11.159
Totally. And they didn't invite me to the party.

01:35:11.239 --> 01:35:12.699
I would have went out there for a couple days

01:35:12.699 --> 01:35:15.340
and fucked the nerds with them and fucking made

01:35:15.340 --> 01:35:17.119
some money and been out. It was like the fire

01:35:17.119 --> 01:35:23.619
of crypto. Well fucking said, Chad. Thank you.

01:35:23.869 --> 01:35:26.189
Oh, and by the way, folks, we had something really

01:35:26.189 --> 01:35:28.810
important to bring up on this podcast that Chad

01:35:28.810 --> 01:35:30.609
and I were discussing while we were having breakfast

01:35:30.609 --> 01:35:34.510
this morning, and it completely negated our brains.

01:35:34.569 --> 01:35:37.350
So when we do remember... We can't remember what

01:35:37.350 --> 01:35:39.770
it was. When we do remember, we're going to fucking

01:35:39.770 --> 01:35:42.729
let you folks know, and it's something that...

01:35:42.729 --> 01:35:46.289
Does that block me? I don't want to do that.

01:35:47.789 --> 01:35:51.250
Oh, what is that? It's so a sensor button, so

01:35:51.250 --> 01:36:04.130
I can pretend like I'm cursing. Nice. Nice. Bobby's

01:36:04.130 --> 01:36:07.489
world. I got a little bit more. I got Hunter

01:36:07.489 --> 01:36:10.789
Biden. Oh, yes. Let's talk about him. Hold on

01:36:10.789 --> 01:36:12.649
one second, Chad. Let me see if this works. Go

01:36:12.649 --> 01:36:16.170
ahead and talk. What? Oh, hello, hello, hello,

01:36:16.270 --> 01:36:18.640
hello, hello. Oh, no, it's an out. I got, oh,

01:36:18.699 --> 01:36:21.000
I would have to set it up on your end. Oh, damn

01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:22.439
it. Yeah, only set up on mic one. I don't get

01:36:22.439 --> 01:36:26.159
the fun. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Damn it. Next time

01:36:26.159 --> 01:36:27.399
we'll have it set up for that. What do we got

01:36:27.399 --> 01:36:29.979
for Hunter Biden? What is this? So apparently

01:36:29.979 --> 01:36:33.460
his trial is in Delaware. He's getting charged

01:36:33.460 --> 01:36:36.760
with three felony counts. Yes. Now that motherfucker.

01:36:37.220 --> 01:36:39.760
Is this the one where Biden has met with Haley

01:36:39.760 --> 01:36:45.310
Biden in secret and to influence her? I would

01:36:45.310 --> 01:36:48.489
say so. Joe Biden met with her, which is, you

01:36:48.489 --> 01:36:50.770
know, a complete no -no to tamper with a witness.

01:36:50.930 --> 01:36:52.750
But the Democrats can do whatever they want,

01:36:52.850 --> 01:36:54.529
so it's fine. But Chad, there's nothing wrong

01:36:54.529 --> 01:36:56.909
with this, that it's in fucking his home state

01:36:56.909 --> 01:36:59.430
of Delaware that the Bidens grew up in and fucking

01:36:59.430 --> 01:37:05.510
probably have, you know, very good friends on

01:37:05.510 --> 01:37:09.050
the fucking court system that's going to be trying

01:37:09.050 --> 01:37:13.680
this prick. They could have not. According to

01:37:13.680 --> 01:37:16.880
Merrick Garland, it's all up and up. Yeah. Yeah.

01:37:17.539 --> 01:37:19.760
So they're just trying to blame it on drugs.

01:37:21.720 --> 01:37:24.800
That's an excuse because I'm high as fuck right

01:37:24.800 --> 01:37:26.819
now. Let's go out and fucking murder and rape

01:37:26.819 --> 01:37:29.260
and steal and I'll blame it on that. Just walk

01:37:29.260 --> 01:37:33.260
away. I can just get drunk and just drive and

01:37:33.260 --> 01:37:35.260
kill somebody. But yeah, I'm drunk. It wasn't

01:37:35.260 --> 01:37:39.970
my fault. Okay. They say that Lowell told the

01:37:39.970 --> 01:37:43.069
jury that Hunter Biden was using alcohol at the

01:37:43.069 --> 01:37:47.729
time of the purchase. OK. His drug use will not

01:37:47.729 --> 01:37:51.409
start. But his drug use did not start until later.

01:37:51.550 --> 01:37:53.170
Oh, they're trying to say his drug use started

01:37:53.170 --> 01:37:56.529
before he or after he got the gun. Right. Yeah.

01:37:56.649 --> 01:37:59.189
Yeah. He was only drunk at the time of purchase,

01:37:59.270 --> 01:38:03.470
apparently. OK, so still not seeing where this

01:38:03.470 --> 01:38:05.970
is a fucking didn't do anything wrong type of

01:38:05.970 --> 01:38:10.750
deal. Exactly. It's just the hypocrisy is amazing.

01:38:10.810 --> 01:38:13.029
It really is. It is amazing. Yeah, Merrick Garland

01:38:13.029 --> 01:38:15.090
was just in front of this, I guess, with the

01:38:15.090 --> 01:38:18.609
Congress being questioned. And Matt Gaetz was

01:38:18.609 --> 01:38:21.789
asking him to produce either evidence or no evidence

01:38:21.789 --> 01:38:26.569
that the DOJ office was influencing Fannie Willis

01:38:26.569 --> 01:38:29.649
and Letitia James and Alvin Bragg. Yeah. And

01:38:29.649 --> 01:38:31.369
he just kept saying, Merrick Garland just kept

01:38:31.369 --> 01:38:33.250
saying, oh, no, they're independent. And Matt

01:38:33.250 --> 01:38:35.500
Gaetz is saying. Well, then show us that they're

01:38:35.500 --> 01:38:37.220
independent. Show us your communication, the

01:38:37.220 --> 01:38:41.539
lack thereof. Right. And, of course, we'll get

01:38:41.539 --> 01:38:44.279
back to you on that. Oh, sure. As they're doctoring

01:38:44.279 --> 01:38:48.500
the files in the back office, time stamping them

01:38:48.500 --> 01:38:50.560
and fucking... Destroying their servers like

01:38:50.560 --> 01:38:52.960
Hillary did, but nothing happens to her. Yeah,

01:38:53.079 --> 01:38:57.359
exactly. Dashing her phone with a fucking hammer.

01:38:58.640 --> 01:39:02.659
Yeah. Okay, lady. But you're not trying to hide

01:39:02.659 --> 01:39:06.699
anything from us. Fucking whack -a -do, but that's

01:39:06.699 --> 01:39:09.199
okay. Dems are evil. All right, I'm about to

01:39:09.199 --> 01:39:13.300
jump off a bridge now. Oh, here we go. Here we

01:39:13.300 --> 01:39:17.920
go. All right, so Star Trek -like invisible shield

01:39:17.920 --> 01:39:20.939
has been found thousands of miles above the Earth.

01:39:21.340 --> 01:39:26.420
What? Where is it? A team led by the University

01:39:26.420 --> 01:39:29.939
of Colorado Boulder has discovered an invisible

01:39:29.939 --> 01:39:35.159
shield. Some 7 ,000 miles above Earth that blocks

01:39:35.159 --> 01:39:38.340
so -called killer electrons, which whip around

01:39:38.340 --> 01:39:41.159
the planet at near light speed. And this is something

01:39:41.159 --> 01:39:44.220
that I've been saying from day one, is that we

01:39:44.220 --> 01:39:48.899
have a protective barrier around us. Right. They're

01:39:48.899 --> 01:39:51.319
just admitting it now. It's inside the vessel.

01:39:53.960 --> 01:39:56.300
Yeah. Yeah. The Van Allen belts. Yeah. How did

01:39:56.300 --> 01:39:58.720
they pass the Van Allen belts if they went to

01:39:58.720 --> 01:40:01.640
the moon? You know, it makes zero sense. I've

01:40:01.640 --> 01:40:03.840
heard about that argument and I'm a little suspect

01:40:03.840 --> 01:40:06.300
about it, but I mean, maybe they were doing,

01:40:06.300 --> 01:40:08.420
they went through it. I don't know. Yeah. They

01:40:08.420 --> 01:40:10.119
say that. Yeah. They're saying, Oh, we might've

01:40:10.119 --> 01:40:13.439
just, yeah. You, you, you just. Happen to fly

01:40:13.439 --> 01:40:16.060
through them. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Here's interesting.

01:40:16.260 --> 01:40:19.720
Listen, they were navigating at warp speeds and

01:40:19.720 --> 01:40:23.460
technology was way better than we have now. So

01:40:23.460 --> 01:40:28.779
I don't know. Any of this. Wow. This article,

01:40:28.819 --> 01:40:32.039
this is cool. Astronomy .com. Oh, astronomy .com.

01:40:32.180 --> 01:40:35.119
Okay. Yeah. Bobby. Yeah. It's all over. I have

01:40:35.119 --> 01:40:38.060
questions about this for you. It's probably a

01:40:38.060 --> 01:40:41.020
Republican conspiracy theory. It's okay. Yup.

01:40:42.640 --> 01:40:45.800
Those are real, by the way. That's America, by

01:40:45.800 --> 01:40:49.840
the way, in his testimony. It's a Republican

01:40:49.840 --> 01:40:53.859
conspiracy theory that Trump's trial was rigged.

01:40:55.100 --> 01:41:00.220
Okay. Okay. So, yeah. Again, I guess you call

01:41:00.220 --> 01:41:03.319
anything that's the truth a conspiracy theory

01:41:03.319 --> 01:41:04.960
and blame it on the Republicans. They always

01:41:04.960 --> 01:41:08.979
become true. At this point, yeah. At this point,

01:41:09.000 --> 01:41:11.869
that's what they do. So, Bobby, let me ask you

01:41:11.869 --> 01:41:15.170
a little bit about this. So this invisible shield

01:41:15.170 --> 01:41:19.310
that's found thousands of miles above Earth is

01:41:19.310 --> 01:41:25.270
way out of our atmosphere in, you know, in past

01:41:25.270 --> 01:41:29.510
the belt. So how are they seeing this? How did

01:41:29.510 --> 01:41:31.550
they discover it? Again, I'm just seeing this

01:41:31.550 --> 01:41:33.250
article for the first time. Is it something they

01:41:33.250 --> 01:41:35.710
looked at through a telescope? Is this something?

01:41:35.710 --> 01:41:41.319
How did they discover it? Oh, there were two

01:41:41.319 --> 01:41:44.819
twin Van Allen probes launched by NASA in 2012

01:41:44.819 --> 01:41:48.000
to discover the third transient storage ring.

01:41:48.180 --> 01:41:51.659
Here it is. Between the inner and outer Van Allen

01:41:51.659 --> 01:41:54.819
radiation belts, that seems to come and go with

01:41:54.819 --> 01:41:58.720
the intensity of space weather. And we've been

01:41:58.720 --> 01:42:01.920
getting hit with massive amounts of solar radiation,

01:42:02.239 --> 01:42:05.600
solar flares in the past couple of weeks. It's

01:42:05.600 --> 01:42:08.779
been crazy. If you feel heavy, if you feel really...

01:42:10.569 --> 01:42:14.569
Drain is because of that. It's because it's been

01:42:14.569 --> 01:42:17.729
knocking out some electricity and shit, no? Well,

01:42:17.750 --> 01:42:21.270
it hasn't yet, but the Aurora Borealis was way

01:42:21.270 --> 01:42:24.710
far south a couple of weeks ago, and that's what

01:42:24.710 --> 01:42:26.149
he's talking about. But yeah, it hasn't affected,

01:42:26.350 --> 01:42:31.869
at least that we can feel or know that any electricity

01:42:31.869 --> 01:42:35.229
or satellites and stuff, but who knows? It must

01:42:35.229 --> 01:42:38.579
have hit the other side of flat Earth. Then,

01:42:38.579 --> 01:42:43.539
Chad, maybe that's how. Here we go. Solar flare.

01:42:43.699 --> 01:42:50.560
Oh, boy. Hey, now. Hey, now. You know how I like

01:42:50.560 --> 01:42:53.899
to rib and joke and all that jazz. Right, Bobby?

01:42:54.760 --> 01:42:58.039
Of course. This is cool, though. I like this.

01:42:58.100 --> 01:43:01.720
This is a neat thing. Yeah, man. Yeah, I mean,

01:43:01.720 --> 01:43:05.239
people just need to question things, you know?

01:43:05.420 --> 01:43:08.760
When you stop questioning and you're just listening

01:43:08.760 --> 01:43:12.140
to authorities, that's where you make the biggest

01:43:12.140 --> 01:43:15.039
mistake. I haven't read this article, obviously,

01:43:15.119 --> 01:43:18.439
but are they saying this is a natural thing or

01:43:18.439 --> 01:43:21.960
is it, you know, aliens or something? No, they're

01:43:21.960 --> 01:43:24.819
saying it's a natural phenomenon. Okay, interesting.

01:43:25.739 --> 01:43:28.859
It's an extremely puzzling phenomenon is what

01:43:28.859 --> 01:43:33.319
they're saying. Because, I mean, you know, natural

01:43:33.319 --> 01:43:36.439
or whatever, like it's a phenomenon of some sort,

01:43:36.520 --> 01:43:38.800
but natural, they're saying, I'm guessing they're

01:43:38.800 --> 01:43:42.300
saying it could be. It's the magnetic field.

01:43:42.579 --> 01:43:46.500
The magnetic field. The Earth's magnetic field

01:43:46.500 --> 01:43:50.800
is strong enough to keep us protected from whatever

01:43:50.800 --> 01:43:54.899
solar radiation comes towards us. But the magnetic

01:43:54.899 --> 01:43:58.609
field is weakening over time. So eventually,

01:43:58.869 --> 01:44:01.130
if we get hit with a strong enough X -Flare,

01:44:01.369 --> 01:44:04.609
we might have a problem. It'll happen in the

01:44:04.609 --> 01:44:07.329
future, I think. Thank God they used that special

01:44:07.329 --> 01:44:10.470
space -age metal in my penis implant, Chad. Otherwise,

01:44:10.710 --> 01:44:13.470
the magnetic field would be ripping it out of

01:44:13.470 --> 01:44:16.430
me. You don't need no Viagra. That's right. That's

01:44:16.430 --> 01:44:18.189
what I always cannot figure out, and no one's

01:44:18.189 --> 01:44:21.989
answered this question about supposedly terraforming

01:44:21.989 --> 01:44:26.069
Mars. It doesn't have a magnetosphere. And so

01:44:26.069 --> 01:44:28.720
that's why... the water was blown off of it by

01:44:28.720 --> 01:44:32.619
the solar wind millions of years ago. Right.

01:44:32.800 --> 01:44:35.800
And I, I, I've loved to ask Elon about that.

01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:38.119
Like what's, how's he going to get around that

01:44:38.119 --> 01:44:40.000
problem? Cause he wants to terraform Mars. Like

01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:42.260
how do you keep the atmosphere without a magnetosphere?

01:44:42.520 --> 01:44:46.399
Right. Well, that, so, uh, listening to Terrence

01:44:46.399 --> 01:44:48.500
Howard, dude, he was saying that, you know, being

01:44:48.500 --> 01:44:51.720
outside of that 93 million mile zone from, from

01:44:51.720 --> 01:44:55.689
the sun. Right. Uh, is, is what, uh, the reason

01:44:55.689 --> 01:44:58.710
why Mars is no longer inhabitable, but that's

01:44:58.710 --> 01:45:01.350
why they're found some ice particles on it and

01:45:01.350 --> 01:45:03.130
stuff like that. I don't know if anyone's seen

01:45:03.130 --> 01:45:06.689
the Rogan Terrence Howard interview. It's pretty

01:45:06.689 --> 01:45:10.550
wild to watch and listen to. And I'm still like

01:45:10.550 --> 01:45:15.390
I told John at, uh, at breakfast that I can't

01:45:15.390 --> 01:45:17.689
tell if the guy's a fucking mad genius or complete

01:45:17.689 --> 01:45:22.380
fucking wacko. He's just repeating very old information.

01:45:22.500 --> 01:45:25.699
If you look up Walter Russell, which was the

01:45:25.699 --> 01:45:29.039
man who really the information is coming from,

01:45:29.159 --> 01:45:32.859
which was even before Tesla, and Tesla got a

01:45:32.859 --> 01:45:37.000
lot of his information from Walter Russell. And

01:45:37.000 --> 01:45:41.020
Terrence Howard, I really think, is just a shill.

01:45:41.119 --> 01:45:43.159
I really do. All right, but here's my question

01:45:43.159 --> 01:45:47.539
to both of you then. The patent he has for the...

01:45:48.100 --> 01:45:51.220
unlimited energy source now that he has patented

01:45:51.220 --> 01:45:54.859
under a gun. Uh, because if he was patented under

01:45:54.859 --> 01:45:56.859
the energy source, they would have never allowed

01:45:56.859 --> 01:45:59.340
the patent go through. This is what he's about.

01:45:59.420 --> 01:46:01.539
Yeah. Yeah. This is what he's saying. They're

01:46:01.539 --> 01:46:05.439
going to use, uh, to, to get flights to the moon,

01:46:05.500 --> 01:46:07.319
to get flights to, you know, wherever, because

01:46:07.319 --> 01:46:11.239
it's unlimited stores of energy. If this is all

01:46:11.239 --> 01:46:15.300
old, uh, you know, stuff that he's just pulling

01:46:15.300 --> 01:46:19.770
out of wherever, you know, then how the fuck

01:46:19.770 --> 01:46:22.409
is that not been around? Like, you know what

01:46:22.409 --> 01:46:26.010
I'm saying? It's been suppressed. Hold on a second.

01:46:26.350 --> 01:46:28.270
Just let me get this full thought out because

01:46:28.270 --> 01:46:31.270
this gun that he made basically takes water and

01:46:31.270 --> 01:46:34.850
it puts electricity through it and in an enclosed

01:46:34.850 --> 01:46:38.670
space, it basically allows it to make fission

01:46:38.670 --> 01:46:42.949
and it could shoot out like a plasma laser at

01:46:42.949 --> 01:46:46.119
that point. That's how he got the patent for

01:46:46.119 --> 01:46:51.159
that. But he's now trying to implement the technology

01:46:51.159 --> 01:46:55.159
to use as an energy source. And this all just

01:46:55.159 --> 01:46:57.680
came out on Joe Rogan shows. The first time he

01:46:57.680 --> 01:47:00.579
ever had a long form interview and was able to

01:47:00.579 --> 01:47:04.420
explain, you know, kind of himself in a full

01:47:04.420 --> 01:47:06.399
form because interviews, they chopped them up,

01:47:06.420 --> 01:47:08.560
college speeches. They don't let them go the

01:47:08.560 --> 01:47:13.619
full time. So if this is all. stuff he got from

01:47:13.619 --> 01:47:16.600
other people and and and and and stuff like that

01:47:16.600 --> 01:47:22.279
like it just doesn't seem like like the case

01:47:22.279 --> 01:47:25.260
or something because that that gun that he's

01:47:25.260 --> 01:47:28.100
talking about and and the actual prototypes that

01:47:28.100 --> 01:47:31.500
he made uh and and shown like videos of of the

01:47:31.500 --> 01:47:34.640
machines that are one but you could put five

01:47:34.640 --> 01:47:36.720
together. They're just all made through geometry.

01:47:37.520 --> 01:47:41.359
Like it just, it all seems to work. It seems

01:47:41.359 --> 01:47:47.020
to kind of be the case. So I don't like, I guess

01:47:47.020 --> 01:47:49.119
we're going to have time. We'll tell if it is.

01:47:49.260 --> 01:47:52.380
And he does have that verifiable VR patent that

01:47:52.380 --> 01:47:54.859
he patented way back before VR was even a thing

01:47:54.859 --> 01:47:56.840
and that all these companies are using now, but

01:47:56.840 --> 01:47:59.680
he let it lapse accidentally, but they're using

01:47:59.680 --> 01:48:02.239
it now. So that, I mean, yeah, that's what, that's

01:48:02.239 --> 01:48:03.600
why I'm on the fence. That's why I keep going

01:48:03.600 --> 01:48:06.739
back and forth on this. It's like, is it mad?

01:48:06.859 --> 01:48:08.739
Like I said, is he a mad genius or fucking completely

01:48:08.739 --> 01:48:11.359
insane? I can't tell. You know, you could patent

01:48:11.359 --> 01:48:14.020
anything, right? Right. Of course. Yeah. As long

01:48:14.020 --> 01:48:15.960
as the patent office lets you, but yeah. Yeah.

01:48:16.079 --> 01:48:18.100
But you have to prove. You just have to have

01:48:18.100 --> 01:48:20.199
the money. There's a, there's a patent for a

01:48:20.199 --> 01:48:22.460
urinal headrest. I was looking at the other day.

01:48:23.760 --> 01:48:27.539
Urinal headrest. So you're pissing and you rest

01:48:27.539 --> 01:48:31.220
your head on a fucking thing. Yeah. Is that a

01:48:31.220 --> 01:48:33.659
revolving thing so I don't get other people's

01:48:33.659 --> 01:48:35.899
germs from their forehead resting on it on there?

01:48:36.340 --> 01:48:38.880
So someone's telling me to play another song.

01:48:39.539 --> 01:48:42.460
Yes. All right. They want to see how the quality

01:48:42.460 --> 01:48:43.880
is. How the sound is. They didn't hear the first

01:48:43.880 --> 01:48:50.060
one. All right. Let's do this paypal. So I'm

01:48:50.060 --> 01:48:52.579
going to mute our mics. Bobby, please mute yourself.

01:48:53.600 --> 01:48:59.239
Yeah. And. I'm going to go to the second one.

01:49:02.020 --> 01:49:07.119
And what are you playing? Hold on one second.

01:49:13.340 --> 01:49:20.359
The words coming up. Bear with me, folks. It's

01:49:20.359 --> 01:49:24.359
the first song that I have found. And let me

01:49:24.359 --> 01:49:37.560
see if I have the name of it. It says 10 ,000

01:49:37.560 --> 01:49:40.920
cups of water. Oh, wait. Hold on a second. No.

01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:46.020
Here we go. It's labor of love, I believe. It's

01:49:46.020 --> 01:49:50.659
either that or it's no good. So, hold on. Make

01:49:50.659 --> 01:50:01.359
sure that's there. That's labor of love. um um

01:50:43.819 --> 01:51:21.779
Thank you. Okay, so apparently nobody could hear

01:51:21.779 --> 01:51:26.720
that on the live broadcast. Bobby, I guess I'm

01:51:26.720 --> 01:51:27.960
going to have to check this out at the end, but

01:51:27.960 --> 01:51:30.880
we hear it coming through our speakers. You didn't

01:51:30.880 --> 01:51:34.420
hear it coming through, Bobby? No, no. Hell,

01:51:34.600 --> 01:51:39.439
crazy. That is absolutely... It's not all Bobby's

01:51:39.439 --> 01:51:44.100
fault. No. Well, again, I could have it to where

01:51:44.100 --> 01:51:47.170
it's shared. It's just... It's a weird way I'm

01:51:47.170 --> 01:51:49.250
doing this. I'm playing it from the email. I'm

01:51:49.250 --> 01:51:52.149
trying to make it so nobody could see where this

01:51:52.149 --> 01:51:55.369
is coming from. I could do it through the Zoom

01:51:55.369 --> 01:51:59.890
thing, but it should be hearable and sound literally

01:51:59.890 --> 01:52:03.029
soundboard quality coming through. I don't understand.

01:52:03.289 --> 01:52:07.369
Bobby, did you hear? Oh, I don't understand.

01:52:07.390 --> 01:52:11.170
It doesn't make any sense. I will check that

01:52:11.170 --> 01:52:13.810
out and make sure I have it set up properly for

01:52:13.810 --> 01:52:17.699
when I do that again. Um, but it should, it should

01:52:17.699 --> 01:52:19.760
be there because it's, it's streamed the same,

01:52:19.760 --> 01:52:22.380
the same way we did it the first song. And your

01:52:22.380 --> 01:52:25.060
mom said she heard it, but just on not as good.

01:52:25.239 --> 01:52:28.039
It's not a bad too. So I don't know. Yeah. But

01:52:28.039 --> 01:52:32.800
she at least heard it, which is strange to me,

01:52:32.960 --> 01:52:36.619
ladies and gentlemen. Um, but yeah, so I'm going

01:52:36.619 --> 01:52:38.279
to get that. I'm going to get that proper for

01:52:38.279 --> 01:52:41.899
when I stream a song again. Uh, and I'll, I'll

01:52:41.899 --> 01:52:44.390
figure that out. relatively quickly to see what

01:52:44.390 --> 01:52:47.949
the issue was but uh my apologies this time not

01:52:47.949 --> 01:52:53.569
bobby's world uh john's world oh uh nice steve

01:52:53.569 --> 01:53:00.449
that's what no all right not sure folks not sure

01:53:00.449 --> 01:53:03.729
not sure but i do apologize about that we will

01:53:03.729 --> 01:53:06.869
we will have it for the next show being able

01:53:06.869 --> 01:53:08.590
to come through and being able to come through

01:53:08.590 --> 01:53:13.640
in pristine quality uh Don't fuck around again,

01:53:13.859 --> 01:53:19.180
devil, and mess up my shit. Okay, John, this

01:53:19.180 --> 01:53:24.699
is me on helium. He says got to change the input.

01:53:24.960 --> 01:53:28.880
I'm going to change your input, Bill. It's something

01:53:28.880 --> 01:53:31.140
else that's going on. It's not the input because

01:53:31.140 --> 01:53:33.180
it's coming through the board. It's coming through

01:53:33.180 --> 01:53:35.359
our headphones when we hear it. I don't know

01:53:35.359 --> 01:53:39.420
why it's not coming through the live feed, but

01:53:39.420 --> 01:53:44.130
it absolutely 100 % should be. There's no input

01:53:44.130 --> 01:53:46.750
for me to change. It just has to change the music

01:53:46.750 --> 01:53:50.369
player. Oh, and not play it from the email, you're

01:53:50.369 --> 01:53:53.590
saying? I don't know. It shouldn't be. I don't

01:53:53.590 --> 01:54:02.289
like it. So, yeah, folks, again, live show here,

01:54:02.470 --> 01:54:05.090
and I'm running the board, and I didn't check

01:54:05.090 --> 01:54:09.710
that feature out beforehand, so I do apologize.

01:54:10.390 --> 01:54:13.760
Mom says still muffled. Oh, so she heard it some.

01:54:13.979 --> 01:54:16.720
So you could hear it a little bit. Okay, so that's

01:54:16.720 --> 01:54:19.260
what I'm saying. Muffled. Yeah. So, Bill, shut

01:54:19.260 --> 01:54:22.239
the F up and let me do what I'm doing here, and

01:54:22.239 --> 01:54:24.220
I'll just turn it up. You're doing it wrong.

01:54:24.439 --> 01:54:27.300
Yeah. All right, let me try this again, folks.

01:54:50.489 --> 01:56:01.619
Thank you. He said, what you hear is bleed through.

01:56:02.340 --> 01:56:04.819
There is no bleed through. There's no mics on.

01:56:04.939 --> 01:56:07.380
There was no mics on. It was coming directly

01:56:07.380 --> 01:56:10.140
through the soundboard. There was no sound playing

01:56:10.140 --> 01:56:17.119
in the studio. Very true. We'll figure it out.

01:56:17.579 --> 01:56:22.380
Yeah. All good. So apologies, folks, but I'll

01:56:22.380 --> 01:56:24.159
get that right for next time when we stream on

01:56:24.159 --> 01:56:30.239
here. We're sure. I will make sure to troubleshoot

01:56:30.239 --> 01:56:34.159
and get that down beforehand. But good news is

01:56:34.159 --> 01:56:37.359
that we will have fun stuff like that on The

01:56:37.359 --> 01:56:40.420
Gracious 2. We'll be here next Tuesday. Yes,

01:56:40.420 --> 01:56:45.279
sir. Yes, sir. And let me pull this up. This

01:56:45.279 --> 01:56:48.699
was a fun show for us, hopefully for the audience,

01:56:48.899 --> 01:56:52.699
to have two of the best drummers from the 90s

01:56:52.699 --> 01:56:56.439
on here spitting game and talking shop. a treat

01:56:56.439 --> 01:56:58.239
for sure, man. That was great to have Dave. He's

01:56:58.239 --> 01:57:01.640
amazing. Awesome. Cool dude. Nice, humble man.

01:57:01.819 --> 01:57:05.180
I like, uh, how he's, uh, you know, learning

01:57:05.180 --> 01:57:07.600
a new instrument and shit now and like utilizing,

01:57:07.800 --> 01:57:10.500
he hasn't been out of the house since COVID though.

01:57:10.579 --> 01:57:14.659
Maybe he's, um, a Howard Stern, uh, fan and scared

01:57:14.659 --> 01:57:17.180
of the, uh, and scared of, of that still. I don't

01:57:17.180 --> 01:57:20.079
know. I'm not sure, but, uh, thank you, Bobby.

01:57:20.159 --> 01:57:22.699
You want to say hello or goodbye to, uh, the

01:57:22.699 --> 01:57:26.579
audience and, uh, and Bobby's world. I just want

01:57:26.579 --> 01:57:29.659
to say thank you for Dave. Dave was great. Great

01:57:29.659 --> 01:57:33.619
guest. Awesome, man. I'd like to say thank you

01:57:33.619 --> 01:57:36.899
to the audience and just keep coming, you know,

01:57:36.979 --> 01:57:41.699
keep coming back. And on show 68, they're going

01:57:41.699 --> 01:57:45.119
to blow us and we'll owe them one to get the

01:57:45.119 --> 01:57:48.500
69. That's how we roll here on the 40. We didn't

01:57:48.500 --> 01:57:51.220
say that. That's number 40. Damn it. So we're

01:57:51.220 --> 01:57:56.159
40 now. I don't feel it. Chad, I still feel like

01:57:56.159 --> 01:58:00.060
we're in our 20s here. Right. Especially with

01:58:00.060 --> 01:58:02.779
me not being able to share a file properly. Hey,

01:58:02.880 --> 01:58:08.279
hey. Remember to like, share, subscribe, comment,

01:58:08.520 --> 01:58:12.060
say what's up. Cool. Rock on. And we're going

01:58:12.060 --> 01:58:14.340
to have that contest. We're going to go on and

01:58:14.340 --> 01:58:16.720
post to all of our social medias. We're going

01:58:16.720 --> 01:58:18.720
to do it on the gracious two ones. We're going

01:58:18.720 --> 01:58:21.680
to do it on Chad's personal, my personal, to

01:58:21.680 --> 01:58:25.000
let you know exactly what post to share. and

01:58:25.000 --> 01:58:28.439
exactly how to win the contest and what the prize

01:58:28.439 --> 01:58:31.000
will be. You kind of heard me mention something

01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:34.180
a little bit earlier, but Chad's going to decide

01:58:34.180 --> 01:58:37.680
on that final one. And it's very cool what's

01:58:37.680 --> 01:58:40.699
coming up on the horizon for all of the gracious

01:58:40.699 --> 01:58:43.779
audience, the gracious two, and just the gracious

01:58:43.779 --> 01:58:46.600
people out there in general. We love you. Thank

01:58:46.600 --> 01:58:50.239
you for coming on this journey with us. And we

01:58:50.239 --> 01:58:53.289
will not only see you on show 41. We'll see you

01:58:53.289 --> 01:58:56.289
on our Insta live only. And we'll see you on

01:58:56.289 --> 01:59:02.470
show 2041. Peace in the Middle East. Later, everybody.

01:59:02.869 --> 01:59:03.270
Peace.