Oct. 10, 2024

The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 049 - Marc Rizzo

The Gracious Two, Chad Garcey & John Rotolo welcome guest Marc Rizzo


Concerns about radical left-wing politics:


The Gracious Two, Chad Gracey & John Rotolo expressed concerns about Kamala's pick for VP, Tim Walz, who they see as a radical left-winger. They criticize Walz for not calling in the National Guard during the 2020 protests and for signing legislation to allow undocumented immigrants to obtain driver's licenses. The Gracious Two discuss how they believe the Democratic party is trying to transform America into a "Marxist state".


Discussing the stock market and Apple's valuation:

The Gracious Two discuss the recent stock market crash, with Bobby noting opportunities to profit from the dips. They marvel at Apple's massive $3.1 trillion market capitalization, noting that it is larger than other tech giants like Google and Amazon. They praise Apple's ecosystem and the seamless integration between its products.


Challenges with social media censorship:

The Gracious Two express frustration with social media platforms like Facebook and Instagram censoring or "shadowbanning" conservative voices. They discuss how RUMBLE and X (Twitter) are ree speech-focused platforms that provide an alternative. Chad mentions starting a Rumble channel to post content without fear of censorship.


Welcoming guest musician Mark Rizzo:

The Gracious Two welcomes musician Mark Rizzo, who discusses his long career playing guitar, his preference for classic analog gear over digital equipment, and his work with bands like Soulfly. Rizzo also talks about his girlfriend Little C’s videography company and their collaborations with various metal bands.


Reminiscing about the music industry in the 90s:

Chad reflects on LiVe's rise to fame in the 90s, including having to drive long distances to play shows at CBGB's before getting signed. The Gracious Two & Marc Rizzo discusses how the music industry has changed, with the internet providing more avenues for artists to promote and distribute their music.


Concerns about government overreach and corruption:

The Gracious Two expresses concerns about the US government's funding of the Taliban, with Chad citing a report that the US is delivering millions of dollars in cash to the Taliban each week. They criticize the government's priorities, arguing that the money should be used to address domestic issues instead.


Recap and outro:

The Gracious Two wraps up the podcast, encouraging the audience to follow Mark Rizzo's social media channels and promoting their own social media presence on platforms like RUMBLE. They tease an upcoming Instagram Live show and thank the audience for their participation.

Transcript
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And we might be live. Ladies and gentlemen, what

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is going on, gracious audience? The Gracious

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Tuesday, exactly. It's the Gracious Tuesday.

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Yes, yes. What up, Chad? Hello, John. A lot going

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on in this crazy world. Are you... you uh tuning

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in for this episode of i don't watch any news

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i hate watching the news but you know you pick

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up things so yeah we see what's happening we

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got the uh the radical left governor she's picked

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as her running mate connell has picked as a connell

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connell harris has picked what's the guy's name

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tim something yeah tim douchebag he uh let let

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minneapolis burn wouldn't bring in the national

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guard until trump finally sent them in because

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he has his federal authority to do so He's signing

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laws, signing up illegals to get driver's license

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so they can vote in elections. And he also changed

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the flag of Minnesota. And it looks remarkably

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like the Somalian flag. Apparently, he bows down

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to whatever. What's her name is? The crazy Somalian

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friggin radical congresswoman from there. Yeah.

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I don't know her name, but. But anyway, yeah,

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he bows down to her. So he might as well just,

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you know, give. Yeah. Here, install Sharia law

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in Minneapolis. It's fine. Don't worry about

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it. It's all good. Let's let America burn and

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burn quickly. I mean, can you imagine two bigger

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morons running this country than Connelly and

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that douchebag, Tim Douchebag? Yeah. I'm actually

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kind of glad I didn't pick Shapiro. Yeah. Well,

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that would be another fucking thing. J .D. Vance,

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liking him. He's coming alive. I get a lot of...

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Because I contributed to the Trump campaign.

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Oh, nice. Yes, yes, yes. I like J .D. I don't

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like his... The part about the right that I don't

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like is the ultra -religious thing. I just don't.

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I'm not religious. I'm spiritual. I believe in

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God and Jesus walked the earth. Right. The Bible's

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a guide, but it's not like... I don't take it

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as a literal word, you know? Right. But so, like,

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I just don't like that part of J .D. He's free

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to do that. Sure. you know if you want to want

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to do that it's great i just don't like that

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part of the conservative side the ultra religious

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like you know people can't be gay and you know

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right it's just it just gets ridiculous and you

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know the whole pro -life thing and that's like

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there's no fucking room for error in in the abortion

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issue it just has no one can be not no abortions

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can be done i don't agree with that so anyway

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well the fact but i like him otherwise marine

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u .s marine and right seems like a competent

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guy so yes very competent Well, just organized

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religion is fucked. I mean, if God doesn't like

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gay people, why'd he make them? You know what

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I'm saying? So I just, I think they get a lot

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of shit wrong. Well, yeah, I mean, they take

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these certain passages out of the Bible and then

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ignore others. Like, you know, it says men having

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sex is a sin in the Bible. Well, it also says

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eating shellfish is a sin or, you know, wearing

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linen is a sin. It's like, anybody worried about

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those? Yeah, not me. But, yeah, imagine that.

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Eating shellfish is a sin. And then, like, no

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meat on Friday after a certain fucking time of

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year. It's all just archaic rules, I think, that

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were really made to control a barbaric society.

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Oh, absolutely. I mean, the Bible is a guideline

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to how to treat your fellow man, which it's good

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at that. Right, right. Thou shall not kill. In

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most cases, like I said, you know. Thou shall

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cover thy neighbor's wife. Why can't you look

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at her with some like, yeah, baby. Doesn't mean

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you have to go fuck her. You know, you could

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just look at her in that sense. I appreciate

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beauty. Beauty is nice. Yes, beauty is nice.

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What a fun show last week. Robin was awesome.

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Yeah, she was great. It really did. She's still

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out there caravanning around. Yeah. I'm looking

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for some of the stuff I saved on Instagram. go

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over but we couldn't invite her main instagram

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account as a collab on uh you know some of those

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reels we put up so it's not no so i had to tag

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your other account but hopefully it's so dumb

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dude shadow well like like she said in one of

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her videos a few videos ago she's you know let's

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talk about how mark juckerberg is supposedly

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piling up to to trump and and uh wants to support

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him now apparently i don't i haven't heard that

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personally have you heard that because She was

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talking about that, but I don't know. I haven't

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seen where he's howling up to Trump. Is that

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true? To be honest, I have not looked into that

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either, but Bobby says yes. Okay, well, if it

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is true, then stop shadow banning all these conservative

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accounts on Facebook and Instagram. Right. Because

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I'm getting shadow banned because of that. Yeah,

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which is ridiculous, dude. And putting up stupid

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fucking fact checks on shit that's true. It's

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like, okay, got it. Well, and you got to wonder,

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like, how much is Zuckerberg into those day -to

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-day, you know, operations? I mean, I'm sure

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he is. Well, I don't think he's sitting above

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the programmers and the algorithm guys going,

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you know, take these out. But you are head of

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the company. So if you're claiming that you're

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supporting Trump, then stop. You have the power

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to tell your people to stop, you know. shadow

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banning conservatives and censoring conservatives

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but i mean he could give that edict right but

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is it so far that these people are like okay

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yeah we're doing that and then they're not doing

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it it takes well you do have that same thing

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that was going on the twitter where even when

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after elon came there were people that were subverting

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his authority because right we we gotta we can't

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say anything good about trump because he's evil

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he's hitler Because the TV told me for eight

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years that he is, so it must be true. Yeah. And

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who the fuck really is evil? The people that

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lie to you constantly and then gaslight you and

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then you believe them and then say we're on the

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cult. Got it. Yes. I love it. Got it. Get it.

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Good. Yeah. We are in the cult, man. The cult

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of common sense. The cult of common sense. Yeah,

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sorry, just getting a text from our guest. It's

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so crazy. I need somebody to answer shit while

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we're live here rather than me because I can

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get distracted real quick and lose my spot and

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my place. Still working on that intern? Yeah,

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yeah, still working on that. Anybody out there,

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we need an intern. We do. Intern for the gracious,

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too. And if you're a girl, there's some favors

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involved with me. Joking, joking, joking, joking.

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Oh, there goes HR. We're fucked already. Damn

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it. Our HR department is really coming down on

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me hard. As they should. They don't realize we

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could joke about anything in the world. You just

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don't act on it. You know what I'm saying? We're

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not a Harvey Weinstein type. Yeah, I can make

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jokes. It's not like I would really fucking sexually

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harass our intern, but there are people who don't

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joke and hide behind fucking closed doors and

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then do shady shit. So it's like, those are the

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people. A lot of those, man. I was watching something

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on Lou Pearlman, the guy who did Backstreet Boys

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and my God, what a scam he had going. And it

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didn't get into him touching little people, but

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that's part of the story too. It was something

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called. something pop on netflix was cool art

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series if y 'all want to check that out i think

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i heard about that but yeah he was pretty ruthless

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and did some fucked up shit dude just a total

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scammer was just getting investors from people

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funding all his shit and he was spending money

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like water granted he invented some of the biggest

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boy bands out there but it's just insane what

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he did like and then some of the investors he

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like stole money from weren't like these high

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-powered corporations it was fucking people's

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retirement funds and stuff like that like that's

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evil as fuck i don't mind exactly people that

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couldn't fight right again i don't mind if you

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rip off big corporations and people who have

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the money but people who are putting in their

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life savings and they're at the end of their

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time on this earth and you're taking their money

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and fucking them go fuck yourself no exactly

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sneezing god bless by the way thank you higher

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power bless or whatever but yeah um you know

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how we do over here so so did you realize dude

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that i uh i uh i'm voting for kamala by the way

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i uh i changed up everything i want well there

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is that big movement supposedly republicans for

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kamala it's like yeah okay i love the psyops

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they fucking put out it's so funny Can you imagine?

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But yeah, that's cool, man. Join the white dudes

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for Kamala. Yeah. Cool. Well, I want the USA

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to go. Imagine if there was white dudes for Trump.

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Imagine what that situation would be fucking

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called. You'd be part of the KKK, probably. Yeah,

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the KKK that the Democrats started. Yeah. Hey,

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now, preach it. Democrats are the party of slavery,

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and they started the KKK. And they opposed all

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the civil rights movements in the 60s. Yeah.

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brought forth by the republicans it's all great

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but let's this is why we have to unburden ourselves

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from what has been because you don't want to

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know your past you don't want to know about anything

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in history so you can move forward being completely

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stupid about what happens when say you install

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a marxist or socialist you know government because

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it ends bad every fucking time but the college

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kids say it just hasn't been done properly yet

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okay got it I think 150 million people have died

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as a result of people not getting it right, so

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you think it's going to work this time? Okay,

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yeah, sounds good. Keep voting in these Marxist

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crazy motherfuckers. We're going to have a good

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time. It's like the right just wants freedom,

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government to be small, stay out of your business,

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borders closed, gas prices to go down, everything

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to be affordable, and the left wants open borders,

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basically to control every movement. wants the

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government to be as large as possible, tax the

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fucking shit out of you. That's the thing that

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they don't even talk about. The tax plan that

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Biden and now Harris want to have is they're

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going to tax your capital gains at 44 .5%. And

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they want to tax you on money in your stocks

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and your portfolio that you haven't even taken

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out yet. So they want to tax your gains inside

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the portfolio, which is not done now. It's fucking

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insane. How else are they going to pay for this

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war in Ukraine? yeah exactly yeah then like josh

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holly had said in the speech he's like we got

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plenty of money we can print it all day long

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to send it overseas but oh for anything we need

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here nah don't worry about it like and why why

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can you not fix our inner cities first oh they

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can't they just don't want to right right how

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sad is that dude there's no desire no i think

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more and more any city any inner city People

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are figuring it out that, you know, the Democrat

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run cities haven't done shit for them for 60

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years or so. So it's like, just, you know, take

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a chance. Try something new. Vote for the guy

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they tell you is racist and they tried to kill.

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Then you find out what's going on. Yes. So Bobby

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was checking to see if we are live on Twitter.

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So hopefully we are. Should be. Everything should

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be set up there again. Yeah, prior videos on

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it, Bobby, but does this show that we are live?

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That's the main thing. And if not, I'm going

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to really be calling up Elon and say, what the

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fuck, dude? We've been live on Twitter many a

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times. It's not coming up live. Okay, so we are

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live on Rumble, folks, Twitch, and is that it

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right now? Yeah, we're waiting for Facebook to

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come back. Yeah, Facebook will be back soon.

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Can't do Instagram because of that wacky camera

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shit. Orientation. I mean, we could go live on

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there and just have it so they hear us, which

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is the main... Oh, we could do audio. That would

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be cool. Yeah, yeah. Why not? Just broadcast

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across as many platforms as possible. Just do

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audio on Instagram. Put up a cool picture, dude.

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Right. Well, we could be live on YouTube. It's

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just that they like to silence us real quick.

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Oh, yes, we know that. Which is fucking nuts.

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Can't talk about the Human Population Control

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Department, the CDC, or the vaccines. Don't talk

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about that stuff. Do not do it. By the way, our

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cool guest that we have coming on should be on

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in a couple minutes, but Mark Rizzo used to be

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in a band called Soulfly. He's touring all around

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the nation on extended vacation. Dude, this guy

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is a shredder on the guitar, man. I got to send

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you some videos. I'm like, he's just a virtuoso

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dude. Next level shit. He dialed Flamenco or

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something, but my God, dude, you just see him.

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Sound familiar to me, but yeah, you definitely

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heard them from back in the day. Heart. He's,

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he, he, he does. His music style is from all

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over the place, but he does a lot of like metal

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music and stuff like that. But he could play

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acoustically and, you know, just real. This time.

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Yes. Yes, sir. Nuclear blast records. Cool. Yeah,

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man. And you never know. We could have a nuclear

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blast any day now with. Oh, then there's that.

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No, he's on tour in the Netherlands. Is that

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where he's calling from? Or is he still in the

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band? No, so I don't think he's with them anymore.

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He's doing a lot of solo projects. He's doing

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a lot of... Dude, he's just in so many different

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things. He's in a bunch of different bands. He

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does a bunch of solo stuff. He's just making

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a career out of being a musician. Nice. Yeah,

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he'll come to your baptism and diddle the strings

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and all that jazz. Diddle. I don't know if he

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will. Yeah. I like that word, diddle. DJ diddles.

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Spinning the clits of the 80s, 90s, and today.

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That's the clits. Yeah. DJ diddles spinning the

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clits. That's Dane Cook? Yeah. Oh, my God. I

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think it's Dane Cook because I'm pretty sure

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that's him. What happened to Dane Cook? He was

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on top of the world, then he just fucking disappeared.

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I know his brother stole a bunch of money from

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him and shit. Yeah. You know that? yes and then

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his popularity just went to shit did he did he

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get canceled like what happened no so he basically

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stopped like doing tours and stuff like that

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he's back at it again doing stuff but he got

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married and fell in love and kind of became gay

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but now he's hopping back in the comedy world

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and uh yeah oh he's not doing arenas though right

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no not like that dude that was insane um yeah

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he was like one of the first to do arenas like

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that i believe Yeah, but it was like back -to

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-back arenas. It wasn't like he'd do one and

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then go do a theater tour or something like that.

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He would just do MSG, whatever one is in Texas.

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That's all he performed in for a very long time.

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So it's the classic, you know, he got pussy whipped

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and everything fell apart. Yes. I know that one.

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Yeah, we all know that one. Damn it. I need that

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sound effect. Mm -hmm. But no longer. The gracious

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two are single and ready to mingle, ladies. So

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come one, come all, as long as you're hot. We

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don't care what your brain is like for the night.

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You're hilarious too. I know. Fucking funny.

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I know. No talking. Yeah, zip my lip. Zip my

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lip. Come on. That's funny. Foot in mouth. Foot

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in mouth. which is kind of cool. Ladies and gentlemen,

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we do have later on the programming, Bobby's

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world coming up. He's probably going to talk

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about the crash in the market and how much money

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he made and stuff like that. But yeah, there

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was money to be made. Chad Bitcoin. Yeah. Thousands

00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:09.920
got by on the dips, baby. You just don't. I mean,

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that's the thing about the stock market. You

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don't know when the big dip is coming. So you

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might think, oh, I'm buying at the bottom, but

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then this shit's even further. So who knows?

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Right. It's a risky thing, but I'm glad Bobby.

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navigated it successfully for sure and then so

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if you're buying that dip and it goes even further

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just buying that dip it's not ever gonna crash

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crash completely i don't think i mean although

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it should i feel like wall street and all that

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shit is a fucking bunch of nonsense anyway um

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it's a pretty wild thing that happens there yeah

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it's just it's just wacky i mean Companies could

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be doing well and selling stuff and then their

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stocks suck for some reason because somebody

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sold a lot of them. Or they have no fucking profit

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and their stock is soaring. That was Amazon and

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Tesla for a little while. Their stocks were huge.

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Their value of the company was huge, but they

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weren't making any money. It's all speculative.

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Hoping one day in the future they are profitable.

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Right. Which is a good gamble for those two companies.

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fucking hey man apple is you gotta love apple

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with what they do we were just talking about

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before the show that they're a 3 .1 or 2 trillion

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dollar company trillion i think today it's 3

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.186 trillion is what they're at can you imagine

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having and and that's like you know that's cash

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that's liquid shit dude that's not like uh well

00:18:32.259 --> 00:18:33.960
it's not all liquid but a lot of it is they have

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i think some of the biggest cash reserves and

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any company in the world. Right. A lot. That's

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what I meant. A lot of billions and billions

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and billions of dollars. Letting in our guests.

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Let's see how he's, how he is, uh, should be.

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I don't know if he's on with, uh, he's got a

00:18:49.089 --> 00:18:51.230
cool girlfriend too. That's a really cool photographer.

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He's coming on with them. Um, but, uh, yeah,

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dude, a lot going on. And then I will ask to

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start the video, ask to unmute. Oh, not you,

00:19:05.809 --> 00:19:10.289
Bobby. I think I did the wrong person. Apple's

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at $3 .17 trillion right now. It's down a little

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bit. Go. Give me some of that money. And they

00:19:16.890 --> 00:19:20.609
should be... They're very kind of weird with

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not giving back to their stockholders, though.

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They've split before. They've done all that shit.

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When it was like $600 a share, they split. But

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they don't... It seems to me. They don't do dividends?

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Not as much as they should when they're that

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fucking cash heavy. Got it right. Yeah. Yeah.

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I guess their dividend is low compared to theirs.

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There he is. What's up? What's up, guys? How's

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it going? All right. I was just telling Chad

00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:57.779
Gracie how what a guitar virtuoso you are and

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just how you shred like crazy. Mark, how long

00:20:02.619 --> 00:20:04.559
have you been playing the guitar? What age did

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you start? Oh, man, I've been playing forever

00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:09.859
now. I started when I was eight. I just turned

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47. So, yeah, long time. Almost 40 years, right?

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Nice. Damn, dude. Almost longer than I've been

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alive. Yeah. Get old. I'm 42. Yeah, you look

00:20:22.019 --> 00:20:23.960
good, though, dude. What's the key to staying

00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:28.460
young? Acting mature all the time, I think. That's

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very important. Acting like a child. But being

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an adult and then exercise, you know, I am a

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fitness nut. So that's about it. Nice. Exercise

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is important. Yeah. I don't think you'd put bad

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stuff in your body as far as drugs and alcohol.

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So tell the kids about that. Yeah. Drugs. You

00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:52.579
know, I had my drinking days, times, and they

00:20:52.579 --> 00:20:54.259
were a lot of fun. But, yeah, I don't really

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drink anymore. I mean, maybe I'll come out of

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retirement at some point in my life, you know.

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But, yeah, for now, no. Just a lot of water.

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You keep hanging out with me, Mark. I will make

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you come out of retirement early. Hey, I still

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love to hang out and party with people. I just

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try to drink a lot of caffeine. I like Kratom

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tea. That's pretty good stuff, too. It kind of

00:21:16.819 --> 00:21:20.420
just mellows you out. It's a kind of coffee family,

00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:23.640
too. But coffee is my favorite, as I got right

00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:27.210
here. Yeah, man. There you go. can't go wrong

00:21:27.210 --> 00:21:30.809
with kratom tea coffee all that good stuff but

00:21:30.809 --> 00:21:34.170
uh yeah man so so you're just like kind of touring

00:21:34.170 --> 00:21:38.069
all over the place like uh you've been overseas

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you've been all over the states kind of tell

00:21:40.950 --> 00:21:42.490
us what's going on there and what you're doing

00:21:42.490 --> 00:21:45.369
is it solo projects is it band stuff what do

00:21:45.369 --> 00:21:47.490
you got going on here dude yeah i got a lot of

00:21:47.490 --> 00:21:50.109
stuff going on um but not enough honestly i'd

00:21:50.109 --> 00:21:52.930
like to be even more busier um but yeah this

00:21:52.930 --> 00:21:56.880
year um I went to Europe solo. I mean, that's

00:21:56.880 --> 00:21:59.759
really my main thing right now is my solo project,

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which is instrumental guitar music. So I was

00:22:03.180 --> 00:22:05.720
in Europe back in April, did some shows out there,

00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:09.119
then came back and did some shows with my death

00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:11.539
metal project, Revenge Beast. And then I went

00:22:11.539 --> 00:22:15.180
out and did the El Nino US tour. And now I'm

00:22:15.180 --> 00:22:18.940
just doing a lot of weekend gigs solo and then

00:22:18.940 --> 00:22:21.410
also with Revenge Beast coming up. But yeah,

00:22:21.509 --> 00:22:23.430
my solo thing, my instrumental guitar music,

00:22:23.549 --> 00:22:26.069
that's really where my passion is at and what

00:22:26.069 --> 00:22:30.029
really keeps me busy. Yeah, man. I've been out

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to see Mark, Chad. I went to one of his shows

00:22:32.650 --> 00:22:37.049
a couple months ago, and it's heavy music. So

00:22:37.049 --> 00:22:40.089
I'm there looking all kind of gay preppy -ish

00:22:40.089 --> 00:22:43.809
with people in dark clothes and chain wallets

00:22:43.809 --> 00:22:46.170
on and stuff. I didn't fit in with the crowd,

00:22:46.250 --> 00:22:48.390
but I was definitely rocking out to the music.

00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:52.319
Very cool. Right on, man. Yeah, I remember you

00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:54.480
were headbanging the whole show, man. Yes, I

00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:57.839
had the long hair then. That's right. Yeah, cut

00:22:57.839 --> 00:22:59.940
that shit. You coming to SoCal at all? I live

00:22:59.940 --> 00:23:04.160
in Orange County. Right on. No, Mark, he's saying,

00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:07.900
are you coming to SoCal anytime soon? Well, I

00:23:07.900 --> 00:23:09.940
was out there on the El Nino tour. We played

00:23:09.940 --> 00:23:12.839
the whiskey, which is always a great time playing

00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:14.900
there. So, yeah, I should be back out that way

00:23:14.900 --> 00:23:17.900
at some point. You know, I'm just putting my...

00:23:18.109 --> 00:23:20.609
my schedule together, uh, uh, for what's coming

00:23:20.609 --> 00:23:23.230
up and, and, you know, I, I'm always out in California

00:23:23.230 --> 00:23:25.710
doing gigs, so I'm sure I'll be there soon. Nice.

00:23:25.890 --> 00:23:29.970
Very cool. Um, I, I wasn't sure if your, uh,

00:23:29.970 --> 00:23:31.609
girlfriend was coming on with you, but Mark,

00:23:31.609 --> 00:23:34.569
uh, is dating a cool chick. Who's a first name,

00:23:34.630 --> 00:23:36.410
Christine, but she's a bad -ass photographer.

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Does a lot of, uh, cool photo tagging for not

00:23:40.049 --> 00:23:41.869
only Mark, but a lot of cool bands and stuff

00:23:41.869 --> 00:23:46.299
like that. Um, yeah. Little C is her name. I've

00:23:46.299 --> 00:23:48.900
given her that name, and it's sticking now. And

00:23:48.900 --> 00:23:51.400
she's got her own videography company called

00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:55.019
CSNY, and I help her out with the company, too.

00:23:55.099 --> 00:23:57.700
She does photography, videography, and we've

00:23:57.700 --> 00:24:00.859
been doing a lot of videos for bands that, you

00:24:00.859 --> 00:24:03.059
know, just people I run into, all different types

00:24:03.059 --> 00:24:05.660
of bands. We just dropped a new video for this

00:24:05.660 --> 00:24:07.839
great death metal band called Branch Davidian.

00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:14.049
Branch Davidian. suffer uh we've done my my project

00:24:14.049 --> 00:24:17.450
revenge beast we've done all my solo videos that

00:24:17.450 --> 00:24:20.069
you find on youtube um on my youtube channel

00:24:20.069 --> 00:24:23.470
was done by by her and csmy um so yeah it's a

00:24:23.470 --> 00:24:26.190
great great uh you know side hustle for me where

00:24:26.190 --> 00:24:28.569
we go out and we uh work with a lot of different

00:24:28.569 --> 00:24:31.269
bands that i meet on the road and some great

00:24:31.269 --> 00:24:34.029
video work so everybody check it out hell yeah

00:24:34.029 --> 00:24:37.130
network that's the key to life and the key to

00:24:37.130 --> 00:24:39.470
any industry i think right what it's all about

00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:42.619
When I do my gigs, I'm always hanging out with

00:24:42.619 --> 00:24:45.039
all the other bands, the local bands, and checking

00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:47.900
out new music and stuff. It just made sense.

00:24:48.019 --> 00:24:50.940
When me and Little C started hanging out, she

00:24:50.940 --> 00:24:54.640
had offered to do my videos. She's super talented

00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:59.059
with this videography thing. I've been networking

00:24:59.059 --> 00:25:02.160
with her, just working with other bands. We're

00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:06.059
hustling, constantly working with people. And

00:25:06.059 --> 00:25:08.079
she's not afraid to get into the mix to get the

00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:10.200
good shots, too. I'll see her bumping around

00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:12.500
people, going to get the camera angles right

00:25:12.500 --> 00:25:15.700
and stuff. She's not afraid to get in the mix

00:25:15.700 --> 00:25:18.200
to get these cool shots, which is cool. Yeah,

00:25:18.259 --> 00:25:21.240
she prefers body surfing with the camera to get

00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:24.200
her best shots. There you go. That's the way

00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:29.460
to do it. Yep. Uh, so what is your, what is your

00:25:29.460 --> 00:25:31.700
favorite? Do you play, you play like not only

00:25:31.700 --> 00:25:33.599
six string guitar marks, you play like seven

00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:35.660
strings and all that stuff. Do you have a favorite,

00:25:35.740 --> 00:25:38.680
uh, one that you like to jam on? Like, is there

00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:41.259
the Mark Rizzo special that he likes to pull

00:25:41.259 --> 00:25:44.720
out to? Yeah, I have a new signature with a company,

00:25:44.940 --> 00:25:48.200
uh, called diamond guitars that are out of Indianapolis.

00:25:48.420 --> 00:25:52.240
Uh, they built me a really great, uh, MR seven.

00:25:52.299 --> 00:25:55.660
It's called, it's a seven string, um, version

00:25:55.660 --> 00:25:58.130
of. what they call their renegade guitar, which

00:25:58.130 --> 00:26:00.190
is really, really great guitar. It's very similar

00:26:00.190 --> 00:26:04.289
to like a Gibson SG, but basically made it a

00:26:04.289 --> 00:26:06.730
seven string and it's out. People can buy it

00:26:06.730 --> 00:26:09.930
on their website. I think some stores do carry

00:26:09.930 --> 00:26:13.250
it. And it's great. It's basically become my,

00:26:13.269 --> 00:26:17.930
my main guitar right now. So rock on. I don't

00:26:17.930 --> 00:26:19.430
know if you put this out there, but how many

00:26:19.430 --> 00:26:21.710
guitars do you own? Is that, do you have all

00:26:21.710 --> 00:26:26.519
of, of, of guitars or do you kind of. Stay frugal

00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:29.799
with your instrument. You know, I used to have

00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:34.000
a lot more over the years. But nowadays I probably

00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:36.279
have, I don't have as many as I used to have.

00:26:36.339 --> 00:26:39.240
I think I got probably maybe six guitars that

00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:41.740
I like to use. Some of them I keep at home that

00:26:41.740 --> 00:26:44.779
I don't even like to bring on the road. But maybe

00:26:44.779 --> 00:26:47.880
six, maybe 10 I have. I'm not even sure. I mean,

00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:49.079
I used to have a lot more. I used to have like

00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:52.259
close to 50, I would say. But yeah, I'm not really.

00:26:52.730 --> 00:26:55.309
a big collector you know i i and i like to really

00:26:55.309 --> 00:26:57.130
just stick to one guitar you know you get used

00:26:57.130 --> 00:27:01.269
to one guitar kind of molds to your personality

00:27:01.269 --> 00:27:04.109
and your build and everything the way you hold

00:27:04.109 --> 00:27:07.029
the instrument um so i i really like to just

00:27:07.029 --> 00:27:09.569
just hang out with just one or two guitars and

00:27:09.569 --> 00:27:11.490
get used to them and it makes you a better player

00:27:11.490 --> 00:27:13.150
because it's like okay i'm used to playing this

00:27:13.150 --> 00:27:16.210
instrument it molds to your hand and and you

00:27:16.210 --> 00:27:18.410
you just feel very natural it becomes like part

00:27:18.410 --> 00:27:22.319
of like you you yeah so yeah i don't I don't

00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:23.660
like to have a million guitars laying around.

00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:25.859
Honestly, I gave a lot of guitars away to young

00:27:25.859 --> 00:27:28.779
kids that, you know, friends of mine, kids and

00:27:28.779 --> 00:27:32.880
people, you know, maybe I owed a favor to or,

00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.960
you know, they love the instrument. Because I

00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:40.619
don't think a guitar should sit in a closet for

00:27:40.619 --> 00:27:44.019
20 years. Let somebody play it. Yeah. Let it

00:27:44.019 --> 00:27:47.000
do its natural thing that it wants to do. It

00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:48.779
doesn't want to sit in a box and collect dust.

00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:51.690
It wants to get out there and be jammed on. Like

00:27:51.690 --> 00:27:53.789
fine wine, you got to drink it. You got to drink

00:27:53.789 --> 00:27:59.349
it. Can't let that cork open. Yeah. So we were

00:27:59.349 --> 00:28:02.529
talking earlier, Mark, you were in Soulfly for

00:28:02.529 --> 00:28:05.410
a while. Were you in the start of that band or

00:28:05.410 --> 00:28:09.130
were you in there after they had already become

00:28:09.130 --> 00:28:11.089
a band? How did that come about when you were

00:28:11.089 --> 00:28:15.089
with those dudes? Yeah, I joined in, I think,

00:28:15.089 --> 00:28:18.589
2003. They were already an established band.

00:28:19.789 --> 00:28:22.940
So, yeah. I got the opportunity to join back

00:28:22.940 --> 00:28:25.200
in 2003, and I stayed for about 18 years, which

00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:28.740
is very nice. Yeah, man. Good run. Where are

00:28:28.740 --> 00:28:30.819
they based? Are they on the East Coast, West

00:28:30.819 --> 00:28:34.519
Coast? They're West Coast. Okay, cool. West Coast

00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:38.880
bands, dude. So, Mark, have you always been into

00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:41.279
hardcore music? Because I remember you used to

00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:44.940
do something, I think a style you kind of coined

00:28:44.940 --> 00:28:47.220
the name to, Flamencore, which was kind of like

00:28:47.220 --> 00:28:52.480
acoustic hard. hardcore -ish type of stuff. But

00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:54.440
have you always been into the harder side of

00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.359
music? Like, do you ever jam out to some Dave

00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:00.599
Matthews or something girly like that? Yeah,

00:29:00.740 --> 00:29:02.980
I mean, I definitely like hard music. You know,

00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:05.319
my favorite style of music is thrash metal and

00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:08.740
hardcore punk and death metal, stuff like that.

00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:12.200
I like the angry stuff, you know. But I also

00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:14.039
love all types of music, man. You know, for me,

00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:15.920
you know, when I first started playing guitar

00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:20.900
in, like, 1986, I grew up on a lot of classic

00:29:20.900 --> 00:29:23.839
rock with the thrash metal and everything. So

00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:27.220
for me, everything starts with Led Zeppelin and

00:29:27.220 --> 00:29:30.339
Cream and Jimi Hendrix. And obviously that type

00:29:30.339 --> 00:29:33.259
of music had a lot of acoustic guitar in it also.

00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:37.680
So I always dabbled with the acoustic. And for

00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:40.839
me, that kind of classic rock music is just as

00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:45.960
important to me as the heavier stuff. Sure. Uh,

00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:48.900
just watching you play is like kind of fucking

00:29:48.900 --> 00:29:51.279
fascinating to see your fingers go like that.

00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:54.559
Uh, it's just, it's just kind of wacky to see

00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:57.500
and fucking really cool to watch and hear. Um,

00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:00.640
you know, I, I've never been much into hardcore

00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:02.759
music, but every time I see you perform or I

00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:04.759
listen to music, I'm like, dad, damn, that fucking

00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:07.099
rocks. Uh, even though you got some kind of,

00:30:07.140 --> 00:30:10.079
you know, that heavy singing in the background

00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:15.559
at sometimes, uh, do you, uh, Because sometimes

00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.279
I'm like, I don't know what this dude is singing.

00:30:18.460 --> 00:30:21.019
Do you understand some of the lyrics that are

00:30:21.019 --> 00:30:24.039
going on in these songs? Or are they meant to

00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:26.839
be kind of just screaming stuff that you're not?

00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:28.859
Because I know if you dissect some of the songs

00:30:28.859 --> 00:30:30.579
and lyrics, you're like, oh, shit, he's actually

00:30:30.579 --> 00:30:33.059
singing something really poignant and stuff like

00:30:33.059 --> 00:30:35.240
that. But to me, it just kind of comes through

00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:37.559
as like a foreign language. And I'm like, what?

00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:40.279
What are they saying? Yeah, you know, it's an

00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:45.750
acquired taste, that kind of. Heavy vocals, growling

00:30:45.750 --> 00:30:49.009
is what we used to call it. You know, it's an

00:30:49.009 --> 00:30:52.170
acquired taste. It's basically that that style

00:30:52.170 --> 00:30:54.430
of vocal started, you know, like in the early

00:30:54.430 --> 00:30:57.730
80s with like Motorhead and bands like Celtic

00:30:57.730 --> 00:31:01.089
Frost. And it just developed, you know, and became

00:31:01.089 --> 00:31:03.230
a thing where it's I don't really consider it

00:31:03.230 --> 00:31:06.069
singing. Like for me, like the kind of singing

00:31:06.069 --> 00:31:09.710
that I like that I can't do at all is like D

00:31:09.710 --> 00:31:12.730
.O. and Iron Maiden and stuff like that. I love

00:31:12.730 --> 00:31:15.839
the power. metal style singing um but but it's

00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:17.519
just something that developed over the years

00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:21.119
it goes with the music it's not really singing

00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:24.420
but you know when the music got heavier um you

00:31:24.420 --> 00:31:27.759
know the vocals went to that next level of just

00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:31.019
heaviness and and growling and it just kind of

00:31:31.019 --> 00:31:34.339
fits music you know it's more of a of a artistic

00:31:34.339 --> 00:31:38.460
thing than a than an actual uh singing you know

00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:41.099
And there's definitely an art to doing it too,

00:31:41.180 --> 00:31:43.259
because a lot of people shred their voices. Some

00:31:43.259 --> 00:31:45.619
people can, some people know how to do it properly

00:31:45.619 --> 00:31:47.799
and not destroy their voice every night. But

00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:52.099
yeah, a lot of guys. Vocalizing technique that

00:31:52.099 --> 00:31:55.400
basically, you know, you do it, do it enough.

00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:58.000
I think your vocal cords get used to it. And

00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:01.960
there is no doubt about it. I personally, I throw

00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:03.859
it in just because of my history with the band

00:32:03.859 --> 00:32:06.299
that I've been in over the years. So when I do

00:32:06.299 --> 00:32:08.599
my solo shows, I'll throw in a couple songs,

00:32:08.940 --> 00:32:12.059
maybe a Soulfly song, an El Nino song maybe,

00:32:12.180 --> 00:32:15.579
or even some Slayer, and I'll do the vocals.

00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:17.519
But I don't really, honestly, I make instrumental

00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:21.339
records. I don't particularly like that style

00:32:21.339 --> 00:32:24.460
of singing. I don't really want to do it. I just

00:32:24.460 --> 00:32:27.400
do it for the fun of it. It goes through and

00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:30.299
it gets the people amped, I guess, if it's going

00:32:30.299 --> 00:32:33.819
on. Sure. used to be the joke like it's like

00:32:33.819 --> 00:32:35.700
kill your father fuck your mother but they're

00:32:35.700 --> 00:32:37.380
really not singing about that shit they're really

00:32:37.380 --> 00:32:41.319
singing some stuff that you know it it's coming

00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:43.599
across hardcore but they could be love songs

00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:46.180
and stuff like that which is kind of cool it

00:32:46.180 --> 00:32:48.359
just depends you know what the band is about

00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:50.980
like my band revenge beat is death metal the

00:32:50.980 --> 00:32:53.900
vocals are super heavy my singer jay decay is

00:32:53.900 --> 00:32:57.099
uh you know he's death metal freak and he's got

00:32:57.470 --> 00:32:59.490
brutal probably some of the most brutal vocals

00:32:59.490 --> 00:33:02.529
i've ever worked with um but his lyrics are very

00:33:02.529 --> 00:33:05.670
uh intelligent lyrics you know he writes about

00:33:05.670 --> 00:33:09.130
a lot of really cool topics you know stuff just

00:33:09.130 --> 00:33:14.029
trippy weird you know space odyssey uh i i don't

00:33:14.029 --> 00:33:16.170
know really weird trippy cool interesting things

00:33:16.170 --> 00:33:19.089
um spiritual things you know and that's something

00:33:19.089 --> 00:33:22.019
that we yeah really cool stuff you know that's

00:33:22.019 --> 00:33:23.839
something we deliberately talked about like when

00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:25.380
we started the band was listen we don't want

00:33:25.380 --> 00:33:27.880
to talk about gore and i'm not really into all

00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:30.759
that stuff and um it's just very just really

00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:33.019
interesting stuff that he that he thinks about

00:33:33.019 --> 00:33:36.119
so there there is cool lyrics for a lot of bands

00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:38.500
depending on what they want to talk about and

00:33:38.500 --> 00:33:40.720
my project revenge beats the lyrics are definitely

00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:45.380
very thought out i love it um i i'm scared to

00:33:45.380 --> 00:33:48.000
admit this but i get scared sometimes when i

00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:50.740
listen to some real hardcore music i'm like I

00:33:50.740 --> 00:33:52.960
can't go to sleep right now. I got to put on

00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:56.339
something girly. You get scared? Yeah. I'll have

00:33:56.339 --> 00:33:58.420
nightmares if I go to sleep listening to, you

00:33:58.420 --> 00:34:00.720
know, some of this shit. It's going to hurt you.

00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:04.960
Yeah. You know, I remember, like, when I was

00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:08.260
a kid in the 80s, it was very taboo, you know,

00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:10.340
that kind of music. Slayer is one of my favorite

00:34:10.340 --> 00:34:13.760
bands, and their lyrics were scary stuff, you

00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:15.500
know, singing a lot of stuff about Satan and

00:34:15.500 --> 00:34:18.219
a lot of crazy topics. But, you know, for me,

00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:20.880
And for, I think, most metalheads, you know,

00:34:20.900 --> 00:34:24.519
it's not very, it's like watching a horror movie.

00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:28.679
It's entertainment. It's art. Sometimes in life,

00:34:28.780 --> 00:34:30.739
things are dark, you know. There's definitely

00:34:30.739 --> 00:34:32.599
a whole other side of life, and that's all it

00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:36.099
is. I don't think a lot of people take it too

00:34:36.099 --> 00:34:37.559
seriously, and they shouldn't. I don't think.

00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:41.639
Right. That's a good way to look at it. Pantera

00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:44.539
Man, Cemetery Gates. Like, that's my jam right

00:34:44.539 --> 00:34:47.840
there. Like, that's like. like some of the harder

00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:50.320
shit that i got into because he goes into like

00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:52.800
a like a cool singing voice and then he could

00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:56.039
do that scream growl thing which which is well

00:34:56.039 --> 00:34:58.820
it's like the the yin and the yang to it uh that

00:34:58.820 --> 00:35:02.219
i kind of like uh oh yeah terry rules man you

00:35:02.219 --> 00:35:04.639
know they were one of those bands in early late

00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.599
80s early 90s that uh they came from more of

00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:10.380
a power metal background so when they got heavier

00:35:10.380 --> 00:35:12.980
they still had that melodic side that i think

00:35:12.980 --> 00:35:15.889
uh We've made a lot of people that were not into

00:35:15.889 --> 00:35:18.230
the heavier stuff get into Pantera. And then

00:35:18.230 --> 00:35:19.969
they just got heavier and heavier each record.

00:35:21.309 --> 00:35:24.150
You know you're on here with one of the best

00:35:24.150 --> 00:35:27.309
drummers from the 90s, early 2000s ever, Mr.

00:35:27.449 --> 00:35:31.429
Chad Gracie from the Rock Band Live. I like to

00:35:31.429 --> 00:35:33.550
blow his head up because it's true, man. He's

00:35:33.550 --> 00:35:35.329
fucking one of the best drummers from the 90s.

00:35:35.349 --> 00:35:37.590
I appreciate that. Yeah, man. You guys rock,

00:35:37.670 --> 00:35:40.690
man. I was definitely a big fan of Live. Thank

00:35:40.690 --> 00:35:46.070
you. Thank you. Yeah. I, uh, yeah, I don't take

00:35:46.070 --> 00:35:48.550
praise. Well, he doesn't, he doesn't like when

00:35:48.550 --> 00:35:50.269
I, when I do that to him, he gets, uh, he gets

00:35:50.269 --> 00:35:52.909
shy, but, uh, he's coming out of his shell. So

00:35:52.909 --> 00:35:56.630
don't worry about that. Mark, you know what I'm

00:35:56.630 --> 00:36:00.030
saying? I'm, I'm a little verbose and wacky,

00:36:00.050 --> 00:36:03.750
but I can get real shy too. Uh, people out there.

00:36:04.090 --> 00:36:07.409
No, I can't. Um, I was beaten by as a child.

00:36:07.469 --> 00:36:10.429
So that's why I'm so crazy. Uh, jokes, jokes.

00:36:10.550 --> 00:36:12.880
Oh, this is a, We're getting a lot of good stuff

00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:15.840
today from you. Yes, yes. My mother used to beat

00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:18.920
me with whips and chains. Don't say that. Mom's

00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:21.420
going to get pissed. She will. We're Italian,

00:36:21.659 --> 00:36:24.820
so we're used to getting beat with a scoop. Exactly.

00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:28.619
North Jersey Italians, too. I'm not Italian,

00:36:28.699 --> 00:36:30.619
but I got beat with a freaking paddle, so yeah.

00:36:31.179 --> 00:36:37.380
Hands down, baby. Hands down. Dad was a disciplinarian.

00:36:37.420 --> 00:36:40.130
He didn't fuck around. Yep. But what happened

00:36:40.130 --> 00:36:42.570
to disciplining kids nowadays? You can't even

00:36:42.570 --> 00:36:45.010
do that anymore. I mean, you don't have to go

00:36:45.010 --> 00:36:47.449
crazy, you know, break out puzzles, but if a

00:36:47.449 --> 00:36:49.510
little whack on the bottom here and there, but

00:36:49.510 --> 00:36:52.190
even that's not cool anymore, you get in trouble

00:36:52.190 --> 00:36:54.570
for that. But they got to figure something out

00:36:54.570 --> 00:36:56.510
because I just run into some kids where I'm like,

00:36:56.570 --> 00:36:59.389
whoa, you are a dick to everyone. Well, now you

00:36:59.389 --> 00:37:01.469
have like free range parents. They just let the

00:37:01.469 --> 00:37:03.110
kids do whatever they want. They don't fucking

00:37:03.110 --> 00:37:06.190
discipline them at all, ever, anything. It's

00:37:06.190 --> 00:37:08.570
just crazy. My father never had to hit me. He

00:37:08.570 --> 00:37:10.269
would just scare the living shit out of me just

00:37:10.269 --> 00:37:14.889
by losing his hot Italian temper. He'd give you

00:37:14.889 --> 00:37:17.969
the look, and that was it. My father would smack

00:37:17.969 --> 00:37:21.650
me if I did something wrong. My father, he didn't

00:37:21.650 --> 00:37:23.469
need to hit me. He would scare the shit out of

00:37:23.469 --> 00:37:25.369
you just by looking at you. A little short Italian.

00:37:26.909 --> 00:37:29.690
Same. My mother would always be like, wait until

00:37:29.690 --> 00:37:32.570
your father gets home. Oh, yes. The classic.

00:37:34.539 --> 00:37:36.579
Wait till your father gets home. Like, no, don't

00:37:36.579 --> 00:37:38.980
tell him. Don't please. And he never, again,

00:37:39.059 --> 00:37:40.780
he never hit me or anything like that, but he

00:37:40.780 --> 00:37:42.679
would give you that look. You'd be like, fuck.

00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:47.139
All right. Yeah. And the best form of discipline

00:37:47.139 --> 00:37:49.960
is you disappointed me. You know, like that's,

00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:52.639
that's, it's not, you know, like that makes you

00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:56.059
feel the worst. My mother's guilt trips that,

00:37:56.099 --> 00:37:58.619
that, that's what, you know, her, her, her, her

00:37:58.619 --> 00:38:02.010
ability to just cry. hysterically, you know,

00:38:02.010 --> 00:38:03.829
that, that kept me out of trouble. I think more

00:38:03.829 --> 00:38:05.409
than even my father, you know, the fact that

00:38:05.409 --> 00:38:07.710
I would let other down so much that she would

00:38:07.710 --> 00:38:10.449
just hysterically cry that I, I disappointed

00:38:10.449 --> 00:38:12.809
her, you know, that, that, that kept me out of

00:38:12.809 --> 00:38:15.010
that, that guilt trip was, was hit. That was

00:38:15.010 --> 00:38:18.070
heavy duty. It works too. I mean, you know, cause

00:38:18.070 --> 00:38:19.710
that's something you respond to. You're like,

00:38:19.769 --> 00:38:21.429
all right, shit. I didn't, I didn't piss her

00:38:21.429 --> 00:38:23.550
off, but I actually disappointed her. And you

00:38:23.550 --> 00:38:25.610
know, she's not proud of me right now, or they're

00:38:25.610 --> 00:38:27.849
not proud of me right now. I think my father

00:38:27.849 --> 00:38:30.659
would even, you know, he would, he would, Make

00:38:30.659 --> 00:38:32.400
her do that. Go ahead, do the cry thing, and

00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:35.780
then he'll, you know, he'll straighten up, you

00:38:35.780 --> 00:38:38.639
know? Smart. They had a thing going, you know

00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:40.460
what I'm saying? You do the cry thing, I'll give

00:38:40.460 --> 00:38:42.380
him the look, and his mother's going to know

00:38:42.380 --> 00:38:47.480
what's up. Yep. I love it. So you were just at

00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:50.800
Dingbats in Clifton, Mark. Yeah. Yeah, Dingbats,

00:38:50.820 --> 00:38:54.099
that's a great metal bar, hardcore club, you

00:38:54.099 --> 00:38:58.739
know, in New Jersey, where I grew up. i'm still

00:38:58.739 --> 00:39:00.840
at and uh yeah we had a great show the other

00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:02.940
night it's always a good time at dingbats so

00:39:02.940 --> 00:39:04.760
much fun chad it's like one of those places you

00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:07.199
go in and you leave like you jumped in a pool

00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.000
of sweat because everybody just rocked now and

00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:13.039
i had that ac crank the other night i was telling

00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:14.639
everyone like this is the first time i've come

00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:17.139
to dingbats where i was freezing cold in the

00:39:17.139 --> 00:39:19.460
club you know they must really they must a new

00:39:19.460 --> 00:39:21.980
central air system or something but i walked

00:39:21.980 --> 00:39:25.780
out of the cold man They got their shit together

00:39:25.780 --> 00:39:29.980
now. Like the David Letterman set. Nipples hard.

00:39:30.260 --> 00:39:35.000
Kept it about 45. Are Jennifer Aniston's nipples

00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:38.380
always hard? Because every time I see her, the

00:39:38.380 --> 00:39:40.579
chick from Friends, they're just always shining

00:39:40.579 --> 00:39:44.199
through. I'm like, is this girl cold all the

00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:48.119
time or is she just horny for everybody? That's

00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:50.199
probably in her contract. You have to keep it

00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:55.400
cold. As would be. Nice and perky. Yes, on any

00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:57.300
set that I was a part of, I'd be like, all right,

00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:00.820
you need to keep this 55 degrees. Ladies, no

00:40:00.820 --> 00:40:03.760
bra underneath the shirt. Got to show the people

00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:07.300
what's up. It makes the film more enjoyable,

00:40:07.500 --> 00:40:13.679
as I would say. Anyhow, yeah, so Mark, I've started

00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:17.920
to come out of my shell here and joke more. I

00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:20.159
used to have a serious podcast where it was like

00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:23.659
serious interview and I was serious. This is

00:40:23.659 --> 00:40:27.719
no fun for me. It's cool. I'm talking to, but

00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:30.800
this one, we go live and we get to, uh, I get

00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:32.719
the shock, the shit out of chat. He's like, what

00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:34.659
the fuck is coming out of my dude's mouth right

00:40:34.659 --> 00:40:37.880
now? Uh, are we going to get canceled? And we

00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:40.480
have, Hey, I've gotten this canceled. You've

00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:43.510
gotten this canceled. It's all right. Yeah, we

00:40:43.510 --> 00:40:45.550
had to stop going live on YouTube because so

00:40:45.550 --> 00:40:47.409
now we just kind of control what goes out there.

00:40:47.469 --> 00:40:49.429
We make reels and shorts that go on there because

00:40:49.429 --> 00:40:51.949
they were giving us strikes left and right. We

00:40:51.949 --> 00:40:54.170
were on like our last one and then we would have

00:40:54.170 --> 00:40:57.889
to get a new YouTube channel. So we go live on

00:40:57.889 --> 00:41:00.730
Rumble, which is the best. Freedom of speech

00:41:00.730 --> 00:41:07.730
like crazy. Twitter, another free speech platform,

00:41:08.409 --> 00:41:12.059
social media platform that you can go on. And

00:41:12.059 --> 00:41:14.019
eventually, I mean, that's where we would like

00:41:14.019 --> 00:41:16.119
to get it. It's just a big portion of our audience,

00:41:16.260 --> 00:41:19.380
Instagram, Facebook, all that stuff. So we still,

00:41:19.380 --> 00:41:21.719
you know, want to go live on those places. But

00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:23.179
it's just, you know, you got to watch what you

00:41:23.179 --> 00:41:26.760
say when you do because they'll come at you and

00:41:26.760 --> 00:41:29.760
they'll come at you hard. Sure. You got it. You

00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:32.360
got to tag, you know, Chad now. And it's like,

00:41:32.460 --> 00:41:35.960
do you really want to tag him? He gives a lot

00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:38.039
of false information, according to our third

00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:40.659
party fact checkers. I get in trouble. Yeah.

00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:45.320
Shit. It's crazy, Mark. So you, but you, with

00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:47.599
your social media, you don't, you just put out

00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:48.920
a lot of musical stuff. So you don't have to

00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:50.880
worry about any of that kind of censoring, which

00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:54.139
is kind of cool. Yeah. I mean, I probably would

00:41:54.139 --> 00:41:55.920
get canceled right away if I, you know, but I

00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:57.900
keep it, I keep it more musical, man. That's

00:41:57.900 --> 00:42:00.440
the only reason why I'm on social media. I never

00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:04.480
had any interest to be part of Facebook, Instagram.

00:42:05.019 --> 00:42:07.420
Honestly, I can't stand all of it, but I'm on.

00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:10.239
Just to promote my music and that's it. And I

00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:13.079
just keep everything musical related. I totally

00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:15.159
get that. They're all great platforms for that.

00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:17.059
I mean, there's more ways to get your music out

00:42:17.059 --> 00:42:19.500
now than I think ever. It's amazing. But you've

00:42:19.500 --> 00:42:21.340
got to cut through the static. There's a lot

00:42:21.340 --> 00:42:23.900
of static, but there's more places to put your

00:42:23.900 --> 00:42:25.679
music now and get it out there than, you know,

00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:29.320
say back in the 90s, 2000s. That's pretty incredible.

00:42:29.980 --> 00:42:31.460
Well, I mean, what was that like for you guys

00:42:31.460 --> 00:42:33.960
back in those days, you know, touring and getting

00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:36.389
stuff? there because i mean you guys are huge

00:42:36.389 --> 00:42:38.849
i was i was always a huge live fan man you guys

00:42:38.849 --> 00:42:41.949
were all over the radio mtv everything oh yeah

00:42:41.949 --> 00:42:44.210
cool thank you well we we uh we graduated from

00:42:44.210 --> 00:42:47.369
high school in 89 we made a a demo we our our

00:42:47.369 --> 00:42:49.889
sole goal was to get signed by a major so i mean

00:42:49.889 --> 00:42:52.489
that was the pathway back then if you know if

00:42:52.489 --> 00:42:54.570
you could get signed by a major and then they

00:42:54.570 --> 00:42:56.949
put their their weight behind you and put your

00:42:56.949 --> 00:42:58.789
stuff out then you were you were golden that's

00:42:58.789 --> 00:43:01.289
kind of what happened with us so yeah we were

00:43:01.289 --> 00:43:04.929
playing the cbgbs like every almost every weekend

00:43:04.929 --> 00:43:08.429
for years until we finally got signed. Were you

00:43:08.429 --> 00:43:11.329
guys out of New York, though? We were out of

00:43:11.329 --> 00:43:13.769
York, Pennsylvania, so we'd drive up four hours.

00:43:14.250 --> 00:43:17.869
Okay, yeah. We had to enlist parents to drive

00:43:17.869 --> 00:43:19.389
the van for us because we weren't old enough

00:43:19.389 --> 00:43:24.130
to rent. Yo, and Mark, they had some, like...

00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:27.059
Disney dude looking at him that was going to

00:43:27.059 --> 00:43:29.019
sign him and wanted to turn him into a boy band.

00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:30.820
Was it Disney or Nickelodeon, Chad? It was the

00:43:30.820 --> 00:43:33.780
Disney back label. I forget what it was called

00:43:33.780 --> 00:43:36.159
at the time. But yeah, we just showcased for

00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:38.440
them. And afterwards, they told our manager they

00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:41.260
want us to maybe learn how to dance and be a

00:43:41.260 --> 00:43:44.739
boy band. We're like, fuck you. Can you imagine?

00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:50.119
That's such a cool era because you guys weren't

00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:53.360
grunge, but you guys kind of like, I don't know.

00:43:53.710 --> 00:43:55.590
kind of kind of i don't think you got lumped

00:43:55.590 --> 00:43:57.409
in with it you guys had your own sound and everything

00:43:57.409 --> 00:44:00.489
yeah rock it was like alternative rock i believe

00:44:00.489 --> 00:44:03.630
what the yeah mean yeah well from our first second

00:44:03.630 --> 00:44:06.530
record we started using a lot more distorted

00:44:06.530 --> 00:44:08.630
guitars our guitar player got really into amps

00:44:08.630 --> 00:44:12.050
and using distortion and just from touring for

00:44:12.050 --> 00:44:13.570
that first record we started playing everything

00:44:13.570 --> 00:44:16.329
a little harder if you will for us anyway and

00:44:16.329 --> 00:44:19.250
and then yeah we made throwing copper and and

00:44:19.250 --> 00:44:20.789
the whole grunge thing was obviously in full

00:44:20.789 --> 00:44:23.139
swing then so the more guitar bands out there,

00:44:23.179 --> 00:44:27.079
the better. Yeah. Crazy time. That was for music,

00:44:27.099 --> 00:44:29.920
man, to go from, uh, and I, I guess a lot of

00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:32.360
credit is given to Nirvana for changing the music

00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:34.719
scene, but it was, um, a lot of the rock was

00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.619
going glitz and glam and spandex and all that

00:44:37.619 --> 00:44:40.699
stuff. And then, you know, I, I feel like the

00:44:40.699 --> 00:44:43.420
nineties music is like some of the best music

00:44:43.420 --> 00:44:46.079
to ever come out. It was like, it was like a

00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:48.380
switch from like the fifties to the sixties when

00:44:48.380 --> 00:44:50.800
music became cool and you had Hendrix and fucking,

00:44:51.309 --> 00:44:55.150
all those people, Joplin, The Doors. It was like

00:44:55.150 --> 00:44:57.469
that kind of switch from the 80s to the 90s,

00:44:57.469 --> 00:45:00.289
for me at least. I just fell in love with that

00:45:00.289 --> 00:45:05.829
era of music still. I love the grunge stuff and

00:45:05.829 --> 00:45:08.949
just the rock. I loved it all. Even though I

00:45:08.949 --> 00:45:11.630
was a metalhead, man, I loved live. I loved Pearl

00:45:11.630 --> 00:45:16.969
Jam. Soundgarden. Pearl Jam's still doing her

00:45:16.969 --> 00:45:21.050
thing, man. Amazing. Yeah, Eddie Vedder is cool

00:45:21.050 --> 00:45:23.829
as shit. I guess the Pumpkins just put out a

00:45:23.829 --> 00:45:26.730
new record or a new single, and I've heard it's

00:45:26.730 --> 00:45:29.090
not bad. I haven't listened to it yet, but it's

00:45:29.090 --> 00:45:33.590
a great band. Jimmy Jalen is the man. Oh, yeah.

00:45:34.750 --> 00:45:39.309
They had like an Asian, what was it, guitarist

00:45:39.309 --> 00:45:43.630
or something? Yeah, James Aja or Eha or something

00:45:43.630 --> 00:45:47.849
like that. Yeah, he's the guitarist. I watched...

00:45:48.679 --> 00:45:50.500
And Theo Vaughn, I don't know if you guys know

00:45:50.500 --> 00:45:52.699
him, a comedian, but a podcaster and shit like

00:45:52.699 --> 00:45:56.219
that. I was watching him with one of the Chinese

00:45:56.219 --> 00:45:58.519
actors and that guy freaked because he was, Theo

00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:00.639
Vaughn's asking him about like all Chinese stuff

00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:03.719
and the Chinese actor comedian. He's like, dude,

00:46:03.860 --> 00:46:05.559
do you think I'm Chinese or something? He's like,

00:46:05.619 --> 00:46:07.300
every time you talk to me about China stuff,

00:46:07.500 --> 00:46:09.340
it's like, you look at me, you're asking me all

00:46:09.340 --> 00:46:10.860
these China questions, stuff like that. He starts

00:46:10.860 --> 00:46:13.280
like freaking out, getting crazy. And Theo's

00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:15.739
like, dude, like what the fuck? And then he's

00:46:15.739 --> 00:46:18.110
like. Well, I am Chinese, but why are you assuming

00:46:18.110 --> 00:46:20.469
that? It's funny the way you went about it. I

00:46:20.469 --> 00:46:23.969
was like, yo, this guy's hysterical. Wow. It

00:46:23.969 --> 00:46:27.869
was funny to watch. Are you a podcast person,

00:46:28.210 --> 00:46:30.409
Mark? I mean, I know you do some stuff for publicity

00:46:30.409 --> 00:46:31.710
and stuff like that, but do you listen to any

00:46:31.710 --> 00:46:34.510
podcasts? Do you have time with all your musical

00:46:34.510 --> 00:46:37.449
shit going on? Yeah, I mean, I love the Joe Rogan

00:46:37.449 --> 00:46:39.670
podcast. I watch that pretty regularly. It pops

00:46:39.670 --> 00:46:44.590
up in my YouTube stuff. That's probably the main

00:46:44.590 --> 00:46:46.650
one I watch. Everybody watches that. He's got

00:46:46.650 --> 00:46:51.130
a great thing going on. Jocko Willink. Am I saying

00:46:51.130 --> 00:46:53.030
his name right? Jocko Willink. He's got a great

00:46:53.030 --> 00:46:55.909
podcast. Jocko Wilkins, I think is his name.

00:46:56.010 --> 00:47:00.489
That guy's amazing. I watch a lot of that stuff.

00:47:01.449 --> 00:47:03.730
It's amazing just what the Joe Rogan experience

00:47:03.730 --> 00:47:07.510
has done for not only his show, but the people

00:47:07.510 --> 00:47:10.190
that have been on that show and branched out.

00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:14.440
It's created a whole ecosystem of people that

00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:16.940
you didn't know about before but are now very,

00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:19.980
very popular and have a poignant opinion. It's

00:47:19.980 --> 00:47:22.000
kind of cool. The one I really listen to a lot

00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:26.860
is Sean Ryan. He's a former special forces guy,

00:47:26.940 --> 00:47:30.380
CIA, and he interviews all these different CIA

00:47:30.380 --> 00:47:32.699
special forces. He just had on this woman named

00:47:32.699 --> 00:47:35.579
Sarah Baker, and she was with the CIA. She would

00:47:35.579 --> 00:47:36.980
basically track all the terrorists around the

00:47:36.980 --> 00:47:40.199
world. Boy, the shit she's talking about is fucking

00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:44.929
scary. United States is wild. Yeah. Yeah. I watched

00:47:44.929 --> 00:47:46.289
that one too. I think, you know, once you watch,

00:47:46.309 --> 00:47:48.230
you go down that wormhole, all those different

00:47:48.230 --> 00:47:52.050
type of, yes. Yeah. I've seen that one too. It

00:47:52.050 --> 00:47:54.050
is crazy, dude. You imagine having like that,

00:47:54.090 --> 00:47:56.349
like you have that type of responsibility where

00:47:56.349 --> 00:47:58.329
you have to like track terrorists and stuff like

00:47:58.329 --> 00:48:01.230
that. Like you think we have stressful jobs,

00:48:01.389 --> 00:48:04.170
like in music, comedy, podcasts and whatever,

00:48:04.269 --> 00:48:06.710
like that shit's got to be real stressful. How

00:48:06.710 --> 00:48:08.929
do you sleep at night? Real stressful. And then

00:48:08.929 --> 00:48:11.010
you've got to deal with the politics. She said

00:48:11.010 --> 00:48:13.750
that they were sending $40 million up to, well,

00:48:13.809 --> 00:48:16.710
$40 million or more per week to the Taliban.

00:48:17.269 --> 00:48:20.250
They're still doing it. And it delivers the cash

00:48:20.250 --> 00:48:22.289
right to the prime minister of the Taliban's

00:48:22.289 --> 00:48:24.469
house. And then they go down from there. It's

00:48:24.469 --> 00:48:25.969
supposed to be for your humanitarian aid. But

00:48:25.969 --> 00:48:27.730
we're basically, the United States is now funding

00:48:27.730 --> 00:48:30.909
the Taliban, which is just fucking insane. Right

00:48:30.909 --> 00:48:35.579
now? Oh, right now, yeah, currently. Yeah, since

00:48:35.579 --> 00:48:38.079
we left Afghanistan, they've been funding the

00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:41.260
Taliban. We have been. Can you imagine? I mean,

00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:45.460
like, okay, I'm sure that's the reason behind

00:48:45.460 --> 00:48:48.380
it, like it's for humanitarian aid, but can you

00:48:48.380 --> 00:48:50.840
trust giving fucking those people that type of

00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:53.239
money without oversight? Like, I'd be like, it's

00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:55.639
in our bank account. If you want to spend it,

00:48:55.659 --> 00:48:57.900
here's a debit card or something. Like, fucking

00:48:57.900 --> 00:49:00.219
show us how you're spending it. No, but they

00:49:00.219 --> 00:49:03.309
deliver plane loads of cash every week. $40 million,

00:49:03.429 --> 00:49:07.230
up to $87 million a week in cash on planes. Boom.

00:49:07.469 --> 00:49:09.530
I'm joining the Taliban so I can get some of

00:49:09.530 --> 00:49:12.190
that money. Mark, I'm funding your next tour

00:49:12.190 --> 00:49:15.969
with that money. Yeah. There you go. We can use

00:49:15.969 --> 00:49:17.969
all that money here at home, obviously. Well,

00:49:18.150 --> 00:49:21.170
then there's that. Yes. Then there is that. Yep.

00:49:21.230 --> 00:49:24.050
That's the thing, man. It's crazy that they can

00:49:24.050 --> 00:49:25.789
throw this money overseas and stuff when we have

00:49:25.789 --> 00:49:28.269
serious problems right here at home in inner

00:49:28.269 --> 00:49:30.670
cities and poor areas and stuff like that that

00:49:30.670 --> 00:49:34.760
they... could overnight basically fix and dump

00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:36.800
money into, and then they just don't. It's kind

00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:41.619
of weird. Sad when it comes down to it. Corruption.

00:49:42.300 --> 00:49:45.639
Corruption, dude, at its finest. Yeah, well,

00:49:45.739 --> 00:49:47.559
I just got to figure out how to get a part of

00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:49.320
it, Mark, and then I won't complain about it.

00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:51.480
I'll be part of the corruption sitting on my

00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:53.480
fat bank account, and I'll be like, yeah, dude,

00:49:53.659 --> 00:49:56.099
let's send money overseas. That's the problem

00:49:56.099 --> 00:49:59.800
with corruption. It breeds more corruption. Yeah.

00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:02.920
i feel though honestly i i know i joke a lot

00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:05.679
but i feel like i would be like no like i would

00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:07.800
stand up for shit even if they were trying to

00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.039
pay me this amazing amount of money and do so

00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:12.139
like i feel like i'm i don't want to say that

00:50:12.139 --> 00:50:14.199
good of a person but like my heart is always

00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:15.780
in the right place where i'd be like no this

00:50:15.780 --> 00:50:18.559
is fucked up i don't need your money to do this

00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:21.539
like let's fucking figure it out and uh spend

00:50:21.539 --> 00:50:24.300
it wisely i feel like i would i've never been

00:50:24.300 --> 00:50:27.000
put in that situation personally but when I think

00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:28.559
about these things, I'm like, yeah, I would totally

00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:30.280
turn that down and tell them to go fuck themselves.

00:50:32.300 --> 00:50:34.500
Yeah, man. You know, I guess it all comes down

00:50:34.500 --> 00:50:36.460
to, you know, you can sleep at night, you know?

00:50:36.739 --> 00:50:40.699
Right. That's it. Problem. So, well, that's why

00:50:40.699 --> 00:50:42.619
I think like with these crazy people, like, you

00:50:42.619 --> 00:50:44.920
know, who fucking murder, rape and stuff like,

00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:47.679
how do you go to sleep at night? You know, even

00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:49.719
if, even if you're in a jail, you know, paying

00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:51.280
for your crimes and stuff like that, once you've

00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:53.480
done that and went down that road and fucking

00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:56.719
been that dark, like, How do you actually sleep

00:50:56.719 --> 00:50:58.800
at night, and how does that not weigh in on your

00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:03.219
brain every fucking day, every minute? Sure it

00:51:03.219 --> 00:51:06.340
does, you know. I hope so. I hope that's their

00:51:06.340 --> 00:51:09.980
torture, you know, for forever. And, you know,

00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:13.400
but who knows? I always think good always wins,

00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:16.519
evil loses, but you never know, really. It's

00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:19.360
just that's like a nice hero story you want to

00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:21.960
be true, you know, but sometimes I guess it's

00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:24.039
not the case, but hopefully in the end it all

00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:29.059
is. So, Mark, when you tour or you're on stage,

00:51:29.300 --> 00:51:31.659
do you use amps or are you in the box, inside

00:51:31.659 --> 00:51:34.800
the box, as they say? What, the digital stuff?

00:51:34.900 --> 00:51:37.420
Yeah, digital stuff. Yeah, yeah. I hate it, man.

00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:41.960
Yeah, good, good. Nice. All my gear is old stuff,

00:51:42.059 --> 00:51:44.719
man, from like when I was in the early 90s, late

00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:47.820
80s. I still got pedals I use, like old block

00:51:47.820 --> 00:51:50.559
pedals from the late 80s that still work perfectly.

00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:53.030
Yeah, I can't stand this whole thing. I hear

00:51:53.030 --> 00:51:54.989
a huge difference when I go see a band using

00:51:54.989 --> 00:51:58.050
a Kemper or a X effects and all those guitar

00:51:58.050 --> 00:52:02.050
digital amplifiers. It's just annoying to my

00:52:02.050 --> 00:52:05.849
ear. You know, I love it. To Marshall or PV,

00:52:06.090 --> 00:52:07.789
you know, something with tubes, man. I'm all

00:52:07.789 --> 00:52:10.630
about it. A hundred percent. Love it. Crazy.

00:52:11.150 --> 00:52:13.929
You can hear the difference in that digital stuff.

00:52:13.989 --> 00:52:17.050
Like they get close to mimicking what it is,

00:52:17.110 --> 00:52:19.469
but you could totally tell if you're, you know,

00:52:19.469 --> 00:52:22.940
have some musical here. For me, it's night and

00:52:22.940 --> 00:52:25.500
day, man. You know, it's, it's, there's always

00:52:25.500 --> 00:52:27.119
this under, like, they'll get close, like you

00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:29.039
said, but there's always this underlining, like

00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:33.039
white noise, digital. Yes. Here underneath the

00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:35.659
note, man. And, and, you know, back classic rock,

00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:37.480
you know, I grew up on like, you know, Hendrix

00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:40.119
and cream, deep purple and Zeppelin. And those

00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:44.059
tones were, were so warm and pleasant. You know,

00:52:44.059 --> 00:52:47.199
the drum tones, bass guitar, it was all just

00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:50.900
so, so warm sounding. And so now. hear this this

00:52:50.900 --> 00:52:52.699
newer sound you know i think the newer kids they

00:52:52.699 --> 00:52:54.000
don't you know if they didn't grow up on the

00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:56.139
classic rock they don't really even hear it but

00:52:56.139 --> 00:53:01.460
uh but i do always i don't i'd hate playing electronic

00:53:01.460 --> 00:53:04.719
drums too even if they have like mesh heads they're

00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:06.039
building they're building sets they're cotton

00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:08.159
you know sets now that look like real drums and

00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:11.039
have mesh heads but i don't know i like ambient

00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:13.920
drums i guess it's cool i guess it's cool to

00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:16.880
practice on like if you were in a uh uh place

00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:18.400
where you could like throw on some headphones

00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:20.519
and you want to jam out at fucking two yeah they're

00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:23.000
great for that yeah yeah a lot of people use

00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:25.739
them on stage now yeah which is kind of makes

00:53:25.739 --> 00:53:27.820
sense for touring like a touring band that's

00:53:27.820 --> 00:53:30.139
doing like clubs and stuff that's easy to load

00:53:30.139 --> 00:53:31.920
in easy to put in the van or whatever in the

00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:34.519
trailer but it makes sense but also it's like

00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:38.659
yeah lose something you gotta work for that tone

00:53:38.659 --> 00:53:41.500
you gotta carry that that that big heavy amplifier

00:53:41.500 --> 00:53:44.719
that cabinet that head you know they have they

00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:47.139
have The digital thing hasn't come close to it

00:53:47.139 --> 00:53:49.519
yet, I think. I did a festival a couple, like

00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:51.780
two years ago, and all the bands were on Kempers,

00:53:51.820 --> 00:53:54.619
right? And then this one specific band, well,

00:53:54.659 --> 00:53:57.440
me and this other band that was on the bill showed

00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:02.019
up with old PV 5150 amps. And it was night and

00:54:02.019 --> 00:54:03.719
day. The guitar tone was like right here in your

00:54:03.719 --> 00:54:06.699
face, man. You heard it so clear and perfect.

00:54:06.820 --> 00:54:09.860
And it's just night and day. And that's part

00:54:09.860 --> 00:54:12.599
of the... Yeah, it's great. with being a rock

00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:14.760
band trying to make it and stuff you gotta lug

00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:17.380
that heavy gear you gotta be having that shit

00:54:17.380 --> 00:54:20.099
like that's all what goes into like putting you

00:54:20.099 --> 00:54:22.760
through that fire to make you sharp and stuff

00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:27.320
like that i think you know you cookie cutter

00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:29.139
when you're just carrying the fucking thing in

00:54:29.139 --> 00:54:31.320
these little cases and stuff like that no we're

00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:34.719
all set up now you know it's not like what you

00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:37.480
guys have done and Chad, Chad did with live where

00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:39.300
you're going in those vans, fucking putting all

00:54:39.300 --> 00:54:40.940
your shit in there. And like, you're just sitting

00:54:40.940 --> 00:54:42.659
in this little thing because your gear is taking

00:54:42.659 --> 00:54:46.960
up so much room. Like you. Hey, so John, my mom

00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:50.079
said that we're back on Facebook. Oh, she's watching

00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:52.380
it right there right now. So I did, I put it

00:54:52.380 --> 00:54:55.420
on, I put it on the personal page, but not our,

00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:58.480
not our gracious to page. So it is on there.

00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:01.440
So you can see it and stuff like that. But yeah,

00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:05.679
so Mark, we. our, our, a big part of our audience,

00:55:05.780 --> 00:55:07.860
live audience, uh, then when we do these shows

00:55:07.860 --> 00:55:10.000
was, was a Facebook on our gracious two page.

00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:13.860
And somehow they removed him and I as admins

00:55:13.860 --> 00:55:15.699
when we started the page. So it's like an admin

00:55:15.699 --> 00:55:20.119
list page. That's, uh, not, uh, able to be used

00:55:20.119 --> 00:55:22.320
at the moment. So right now you're going live

00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:24.980
on the personal one, but I'm in like talks, email

00:55:24.980 --> 00:55:28.900
chats and fucking, uh, DM chats with Facebook

00:55:28.900 --> 00:55:30.639
trying to get it back. It's just, it's crazy.

00:55:31.260 --> 00:55:35.380
But They have the people who they've all come

00:55:35.380 --> 00:55:38.000
over to Rumble to watch now, which is cool. So

00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:41.519
I promote them left and right because it's just

00:55:41.519 --> 00:55:43.219
cool. As long as you're not fucking inciting

00:55:43.219 --> 00:55:47.400
riots and all that shit. Bobby Hayes is on here.

00:55:47.539 --> 00:55:50.139
He's a East Rutherford native too. But we're

00:55:50.139 --> 00:55:54.659
hearing that Zuckerberg is coming and not sucking

00:55:54.659 --> 00:55:58.940
the teat of whatever, the left or something at

00:55:58.940 --> 00:56:02.800
this point and starting to... Maybe not stifle

00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:04.840
free speech. I don't know if that's the case,

00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:08.539
but we'll see. Time will tell. I just have that

00:56:08.539 --> 00:56:10.840
feeling like everything should be able to be

00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:13.460
said out in the open, and then if you disagree

00:56:13.460 --> 00:56:16.559
with it, then people come and they could talk

00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:18.940
about it and do it that way. If you're just silencing

00:56:18.940 --> 00:56:23.059
a side, that's not doing anything. That's not

00:56:23.059 --> 00:56:25.480
creating good discussions and stuff. It's like,

00:56:25.579 --> 00:56:28.380
I don't know. I'm just all about freedom of speech.

00:56:29.300 --> 00:56:30.920
Absolutely. It's what America's about, right?

00:56:31.369 --> 00:56:34.210
yeah our forefathers were smart as fuck dude

00:56:34.210 --> 00:56:36.449
i i always wonder like how the fuck did they

00:56:36.449 --> 00:56:39.670
have that much insight to think no big government

00:56:39.670 --> 00:56:42.429
you know like and and just everything that they

00:56:42.429 --> 00:56:45.130
came up with all the checks and balances that

00:56:45.130 --> 00:56:46.530
they installed in the government it's amazing

00:56:46.530 --> 00:56:49.710
yeah this it really is start to read them read

00:56:49.710 --> 00:56:52.050
the constitution like damn how exactly how do

00:56:52.050 --> 00:56:54.170
they think of this how how did they have this

00:56:54.170 --> 00:56:57.349
much forethought uh oh they were just stuffed

00:56:57.349 --> 00:57:00.980
down Keeping, you know, Europe with all the kings

00:57:00.980 --> 00:57:04.079
and queens and pirates and everything. They kept

00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:05.719
that all in mind, I guess, right? And that stuff

00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:08.500
nowadays we don't know anything about, right?

00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:11.800
And what's funny is, like, a lot of those, like,

00:57:11.860 --> 00:57:14.579
you go back and look at the founders and what

00:57:14.579 --> 00:57:17.059
their ages were. Some of them were 18. Some of

00:57:17.059 --> 00:57:18.920
them were in their 20s, 30s. Most of them were

00:57:18.920 --> 00:57:21.719
in their 20s or 30s. So that, you know, the common

00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:23.579
thing on the left, like, this country was started

00:57:23.579 --> 00:57:26.059
by a rich... Old white men, it's like, no, they

00:57:26.059 --> 00:57:27.840
were all pretty young. It's like they weren't

00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:31.019
just old dudes. I guess you get that because

00:57:31.019 --> 00:57:34.119
George Washington fucking had wooden teeth. Washington

00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:36.659
was one of the oldest, yeah. Yeah, and he had

00:57:36.659 --> 00:57:39.079
that gray wig. I heard those wigs that they were

00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:42.320
wearing back in the day was like from some STD

00:57:42.320 --> 00:57:44.679
or some shit that was spread around, and they

00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:46.400
had to wear these powdered wigs because they

00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:48.340
were all getting sores on their head and stuff.

00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:51.380
I don't know if that's the case. I've heard something

00:57:51.380 --> 00:57:53.690
like that. I didn't look that back up, but you

00:57:53.690 --> 00:57:55.230
had something like they wore those white wigs

00:57:55.230 --> 00:57:59.949
for a reason. Yeah. Can you imagine how hot that

00:57:59.949 --> 00:58:02.969
would be wearing a fucking powdered wig on your

00:58:02.969 --> 00:58:05.869
head? Like, my God, I would just rather be bald

00:58:05.869 --> 00:58:09.449
and have my sores be seen. Wearing into combat.

00:58:09.690 --> 00:58:16.190
How fun. Yeah. Killed, hit by a cannonball. Isn't

00:58:16.190 --> 00:58:20.679
that crazy? Dude. The way they fought back in

00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:23.780
the day, like just the way, you know, wars were

00:58:23.780 --> 00:58:26.860
fought when like the British Empire was like,

00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:29.579
you know, ruling the world, like two armies stood

00:58:29.579 --> 00:58:31.940
in front of each other and just shot at each

00:58:31.940 --> 00:58:34.139
other. There was no like guerrilla warfare. They

00:58:34.139 --> 00:58:36.719
even did that in the Civil War, too. Right. Yeah,

00:58:37.059 --> 00:58:39.619
that was the Civil War was when they did away

00:58:39.619 --> 00:58:44.699
with the, you know, the way they lined up suicide,

00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:48.110
you know, I mean. It was the gentleman's form

00:58:48.110 --> 00:58:51.869
of war. I was like, okay. Let's hide behind some

00:58:51.869 --> 00:58:54.329
shit and shoot at people. I was watching the

00:58:54.329 --> 00:58:55.949
movie The Patriot the other day. I love that

00:58:55.949 --> 00:58:59.929
movie. Through this, man, I'm just going to run

00:58:59.929 --> 00:59:01.789
out in the woods, hide behind trees, and throw

00:59:01.789 --> 00:59:06.030
tomahawks at people. That's the way, man. Especially

00:59:06.030 --> 00:59:07.570
when you're fighting. Because it seemed like

00:59:07.570 --> 00:59:10.510
back then it was like whoever had the most people

00:59:10.510 --> 00:59:12.369
is going to win that battle. You know what I'm

00:59:12.369 --> 00:59:14.349
saying? Because you're just fucking facing and

00:59:14.349 --> 00:59:17.239
maybe who had the better. muskets or whatever.

00:59:17.340 --> 00:59:19.440
The Revolutionary War, for the first time, we

00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:21.760
were taking out their officers with snipers.

00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:25.900
We started that form of warfare because you had

00:59:25.900 --> 00:59:29.519
to compete. They got that probably from the American

00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:34.900
Indians who were doing that. Dude, how crazy

00:59:34.900 --> 00:59:38.659
is it? What we did to the Native Americans is

00:59:38.659 --> 00:59:43.309
crazy. You almost wiped out a whole... group

00:59:43.309 --> 00:59:46.550
of people that were native to this country and

00:59:46.550 --> 00:59:48.449
i heard a lot of it was through disease and stuff

00:59:48.449 --> 00:59:50.010
like that but a lot of it was through fucking

00:59:50.010 --> 00:59:52.969
murder and stuff too and it's just it's crazy

00:59:52.969 --> 00:59:55.869
and and you don't hear them really bitching about

00:59:55.869 --> 00:59:58.349
it to this day like there's not like a big like

00:59:58.349 --> 01:00:01.550
i feel like if that happened to you know any

01:00:01.550 --> 01:00:04.210
fucking people they would be still bitching about

01:00:04.210 --> 01:00:06.849
today it was like almost mass extinction yeah

01:00:06.849 --> 01:00:10.019
they still you know i went out Out on the West

01:00:10.019 --> 01:00:12.880
Coast, there's a lot more reservations. I go

01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:14.760
out to Montana a lot to play shows, especially

01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:18.260
during the pandemic. Montana was open for gigs,

01:00:18.559 --> 01:00:22.260
so I was going out there a lot. I had friends

01:00:22.260 --> 01:00:23.800
out there that would fly me out, and I would

01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:28.480
do gigs all over Montana. I met a lot of Native

01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:33.340
Americans, very cool people. It's still a very

01:00:33.340 --> 01:00:40.420
sad situation in certain parts. For sure. Nice

01:00:40.420 --> 01:00:44.260
people. And a crazy and a cool culture, too.

01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:47.480
I mean, they were also ruthless to each other.

01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:52.539
Different tribes, you know, go battling and stuff

01:00:52.539 --> 01:00:54.239
like that. So it's like it's just crazy. They

01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:57.920
were living like like like off the land and kind

01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:00.920
of like getting territorial with stuff like that.

01:01:00.980 --> 01:01:03.639
So it was like really kind of just the way of

01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:06.619
life back and then back then. Foreign culture,

01:01:06.739 --> 01:01:09.849
hunting culture. It's really interesting. You

01:01:09.849 --> 01:01:12.489
know, I love that, that, that culture. Absolutely.

01:01:12.989 --> 01:01:16.469
And then, uh, us Westerners or whatever, European

01:01:16.469 --> 01:01:18.969
people came in and started moving West and fucking

01:01:18.969 --> 01:01:21.909
doing our crazy shit with them. And, you know,

01:01:21.929 --> 01:01:24.030
they were fighting with bow and arrows and, uh,

01:01:24.150 --> 01:01:27.469
you know, fucking scalp, uh, you know, hatchets

01:01:27.469 --> 01:01:29.710
and stuff like that. We were using revolvers

01:01:29.710 --> 01:01:31.809
and fucking guns. So it's like, wasn't a fair

01:01:31.809 --> 01:01:34.809
fight. Yeah. That's where the, the, the cult.

01:01:35.319 --> 01:01:38.139
Patterson gun, I think it was called, was invented

01:01:38.139 --> 01:01:40.139
because of that. When they would go out there,

01:01:40.179 --> 01:01:43.840
they needed something, a revolving gun to fight.

01:01:43.980 --> 01:01:48.320
Fire off the arrows and the muskets back in those

01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:50.880
days. It was one bullet at a time. Imagine that.

01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:55.880
You're sitting there getting ready. Boom. One

01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:57.380
shot. That's it. How the hell are you going to

01:01:57.380 --> 01:02:01.349
fight? Dude, I just wonder, like, I would probably

01:02:01.349 --> 01:02:03.650
be dead real quick in those times. Like, I don't

01:02:03.650 --> 01:02:06.889
know if I could be handling all that type of

01:02:06.889 --> 01:02:08.329
battle. Like, I'd be like, all right, just fucking

01:02:08.329 --> 01:02:10.949
kill me now. This is way too rough of a life

01:02:10.949 --> 01:02:14.869
to live. Right. You have no running fucking water.

01:02:14.969 --> 01:02:18.050
You're shitting in a hole in the ground. Wiping

01:02:18.050 --> 01:02:21.969
your ass with a leaf. No toilet paper. I'm too

01:02:21.969 --> 01:02:24.969
girly for that. Or whatever. Not girly, but.

01:02:25.369 --> 01:02:27.190
Because you can't say girly now. It's like a

01:02:27.190 --> 01:02:31.050
bad term to say girly. Oh, yeah. I don't know.

01:02:31.110 --> 01:02:33.809
I still use the term. I use a lot of terms I

01:02:33.809 --> 01:02:38.110
shouldn't use. Yeah. A lot of good ones. Uh,

01:02:38.309 --> 01:02:39.829
but Mark, so just that we do it all the time.

01:02:39.869 --> 01:02:42.650
Um, we always leave the audience, uh, wanting

01:02:42.650 --> 01:02:45.329
more from our guests. So if you want to let them

01:02:45.329 --> 01:02:48.230
know where they could find Mark Rizzo's like

01:02:48.230 --> 01:02:49.710
social media and stuff like that, so they could,

01:02:49.750 --> 01:02:51.329
you know, see where you're going out on tour

01:02:51.329 --> 01:02:53.949
and like give away all that information. Um,

01:02:54.070 --> 01:02:55.489
yeah, but we leave the audience wanting more

01:02:55.489 --> 01:02:57.289
so we could have you back on again and get some

01:02:57.289 --> 01:02:58.869
more information out of you and all that good

01:02:58.869 --> 01:03:01.550
stuff. Yeah. Uh, so you can follow me on all,

01:03:01.610 --> 01:03:03.570
you know, I'm on all the Facebook, Instagram,

01:03:03.570 --> 01:03:05.829
my Instagram page is Mark Rizzo rip and shred.

01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:09.139
And then my Facebook page is Mark Rizzo. And

01:03:09.139 --> 01:03:11.579
then I got my markrizzo .net where I put up all

01:03:11.579 --> 01:03:15.880
my stuff. You can also follow the CSNY website

01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:17.579
for all the video work that we're doing with

01:03:17.579 --> 01:03:21.099
me and Little C. And it's easy to find stuff.

01:03:21.300 --> 01:03:23.739
It's out there. And then, Mark, if you want to

01:03:23.739 --> 01:03:26.280
just send that stuff to me so I can put it in

01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:28.719
the description properly. So in case people didn't

01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:30.599
catch it for the words, it'll be in the description

01:03:30.599 --> 01:03:32.320
of the episode so they can go there and do it.

01:03:33.769 --> 01:03:35.750
Yeah, Mark Rizzo, thank you for coming on, dude.

01:03:35.889 --> 01:03:37.989
It's always been a pleasure. Thank you, Mark.

01:03:38.170 --> 01:03:40.489
It's great to meet you. Appreciate it. Big fan,

01:03:40.570 --> 01:03:42.010
man. Great to meet you. Thanks, man. Appreciate

01:03:42.010 --> 01:03:44.710
it. Thank you. Right on, guys. Keep washing your

01:03:44.710 --> 01:03:46.829
face with that Avion water to stay young, dude.

01:03:46.869 --> 01:03:49.989
I see how you do it. Coffee, bro. Hot coffee.

01:03:50.309 --> 01:03:54.469
There you go. Be a good man. Take care, bud.

01:03:54.969 --> 01:03:57.949
Ladies and gentlemen, that was the one and only

01:03:57.949 --> 01:04:00.570
Mark Rizzo. We got to thank him for coming on

01:04:00.570 --> 01:04:04.190
and being part of this thing. Fun chat, man.

01:04:04.449 --> 01:04:06.050
That was great. Yeah, I just followed him on

01:04:06.050 --> 01:04:10.650
Instagram. I was looking for CSMY. I didn't find

01:04:10.650 --> 01:04:14.469
that one yet, but keep looking. Yeah, CSMY. Wasn't

01:04:14.469 --> 01:04:18.269
that Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young? That would

01:04:18.269 --> 01:04:21.989
be CSNY, I guess. Oh, what did he say? CSMY,

01:04:22.170 --> 01:04:25.090
I believe. Is it Pam or Pan? Are you saying Pan

01:04:25.090 --> 01:04:30.230
or Pam? Bobby remembers Mark. You better remember

01:04:30.230 --> 01:04:35.539
Mark, Bobby. Yeah, he's got a brother, too, that

01:04:35.539 --> 01:04:38.219
does some DJ stuff. Give him a shout out. I think

01:04:38.219 --> 01:04:42.000
he goes by the name of DJ Cloak Dagger. And he

01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:45.059
does all stuff all over. I mean, he's got, like,

01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:46.900
I think a residency in Vegas and stuff like that.

01:04:46.940 --> 01:04:51.159
But Luke Rizzo. But DJ Cloak Dagger. It's cool,

01:04:51.179 --> 01:04:54.199
man. DJ Club Dagger. Cloak. Cloak Dagger. Cloak

01:04:54.199 --> 01:05:00.650
Dagger. Excuse me. Yeah. DJ Humdinger. but yeah

01:05:00.650 --> 01:05:02.989
that i always thought that's a cool fucking that's

01:05:02.989 --> 01:05:05.269
kind of a cool gig man be a fucking dj at these

01:05:05.269 --> 01:05:08.369
clubs like i'd be there fucking taking ecstasy

01:05:08.369 --> 01:05:12.309
fucking wearing some crazy huge fucking they

01:05:12.309 --> 01:05:15.550
do gigantic fucking festivals and shit that's

01:05:15.550 --> 01:05:17.989
pretty wild that that whole dj thing i was never

01:05:17.989 --> 01:05:19.969
really into that kind of music but you know but

01:05:19.969 --> 01:05:23.210
right you know if you can do it but like those

01:05:23.210 --> 01:05:26.250
dj guys some of them are like bonafide fucking

01:05:26.250 --> 01:05:30.800
stars and making Tons of money from just concerts

01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:33.400
alone. Just them and their couple of equipment,

01:05:33.539 --> 01:05:35.000
you know, a couple of pieces of equipment. It's

01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:39.119
like, what a profitable way to tour. Abso -fucking

01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:41.199
-lutely. You know Paris Hilton? I don't know

01:05:41.199 --> 01:05:43.179
if she's still doing it, but she was DJing for

01:05:43.179 --> 01:05:44.760
a while, and she was like one of the biggest,

01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:49.800
highest -paid DJs going on for a while. I'm not

01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:51.800
sure if she's doing it anymore, but that's pretty

01:05:51.800 --> 01:05:54.679
cool. Well, as she should have. I mean, she was

01:05:54.679 --> 01:05:57.800
always in those clubs back in the day, you know.

01:05:58.119 --> 01:06:00.320
listening to that music so it's like why not

01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:05.360
get paid for it and you know do it you know it's

01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:08.639
hot dude uh i watched her porn tape a couple

01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:14.639
times one night in paris uh was fun i think that's

01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:17.820
so funny what i was talking to bill the other

01:06:17.820 --> 01:06:20.340
day he had never seen the pamela and pamela and

01:06:20.340 --> 01:06:23.139
tommy lee video from back you know it was never

01:06:23.139 --> 01:06:26.280
watched this come on I remember watching that

01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:28.059
on the fucking tour bus. We were on tour for

01:06:28.059 --> 01:06:30.780
probably came out around 95, right? I think we

01:06:30.780 --> 01:06:32.059
were on tour for throwing copper and that shit

01:06:32.059 --> 01:06:34.500
came out. Yeah. It was somewhere around that

01:06:34.500 --> 01:06:38.880
time, dude. And my God is what her body was just

01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:42.699
perfect, dude. Yeah. All over. There was no 10

01:06:42.699 --> 01:06:45.400
lines. Right. And then fucking Tommy's walking

01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:48.179
around his big schlong. What is their leg? He

01:06:48.179 --> 01:06:53.559
is. He is a gifted, as we say, dude, he was saying

01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:58.059
that he drank. two gallons of vodka a day at

01:06:58.059 --> 01:07:01.420
one point i heard him on a show two gallons dude

01:07:01.420 --> 01:07:04.840
like that's fucking nuts what are you like you

01:07:04.840 --> 01:07:07.659
have to get some water in there somewhere so

01:07:07.659 --> 01:07:10.159
how are you holding all that liquid in you know

01:07:10.159 --> 01:07:13.880
it's brutal that is totally brutal that's got

01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:16.960
to be a miserable existence you know you're just

01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:21.380
that sloshed yeah you know like I like to have

01:07:21.380 --> 01:07:24.780
a couple drinks here and there, but I could never

01:07:24.780 --> 01:07:28.059
be that fucking hammered to... I mean, you can't

01:07:28.059 --> 01:07:30.920
probably walk at some point. No, definitely not.

01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:33.280
Last time I was even remotely that hammered was

01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:36.900
my 40th birthday. I got sucker punched into...

01:07:36.900 --> 01:07:40.900
It was a surprise, so I walked in. No one had

01:07:40.900 --> 01:07:44.000
fed me. Everyone's like, shot, shot, shot. I

01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:47.019
got fucking totally blasted. It happens. I got

01:07:47.019 --> 01:07:50.460
put in a cab with a jukebox to go home. Believe

01:07:50.460 --> 01:07:53.360
it or not, Chad, the last time I was that sloshed

01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:58.619
was at your Atlantic City show with Live after

01:07:58.619 --> 01:08:01.699
you were reunited. I think I can tell you a story.

01:08:01.780 --> 01:08:04.179
I couldn't walk. I couldn't stand up straight.

01:08:04.260 --> 01:08:06.719
I was either leaning forward or leaning backwards.

01:08:07.079 --> 01:08:10.780
It wasn't the side sidewalk. And I was with my

01:08:10.780 --> 01:08:12.780
ex at the time and my parents. We went to see.

01:08:12.820 --> 01:08:14.119
It was when you were doing the Bush tour, the

01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:16.739
ultimate tour. I think you were at Hard Rock.

01:08:19.949 --> 01:08:22.069
So at the end of the show, because here's what

01:08:22.069 --> 01:08:24.229
the thing was. So one, I brought in like a little

01:08:24.229 --> 01:08:27.689
weed vape pen. So I was vaping while drinking.

01:08:28.170 --> 01:08:33.350
But they gave you for $20, they gave you a full

01:08:33.350 --> 01:08:36.850
thing about this size filled with Jack Daniels.

01:08:36.890 --> 01:08:40.229
And then you could fill it up again for $15.

01:08:40.949 --> 01:08:44.529
Jesus. That's a bargain right there. It was totally

01:08:44.529 --> 01:08:47.069
a bargain. I think it was like for Hard Rock.

01:08:47.420 --> 01:08:49.079
club members or you know what i'm saying like

01:08:49.079 --> 01:08:51.920
you got a hard rock card or whatever but uh so

01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:54.500
i did that and drank those both granted they

01:08:54.500 --> 01:08:56.319
were filled with ice and then the jack daniels

01:08:56.319 --> 01:08:58.319
in it but still a lot of fucking jack daniels

01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:01.420
so at the end of the show you guys killed it

01:09:01.420 --> 01:09:04.079
by the way it was fucking great great show uh

01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:08.079
we go to leave and i'm trying to walk to our

01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:11.619
room uh that we had there and i'm like yo dad

01:09:11.619 --> 01:09:13.439
i'm like my back hurts he's like well why don't

01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:16.539
you stand up straight dude And then I tried to,

01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:18.159
cause I was leaning forward and then I leaned

01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:20.359
back and I literally looked like a dead man,

01:09:20.439 --> 01:09:22.619
like weekend at Bernie's fucking walk in. Like,

01:09:22.619 --> 01:09:25.859
Oh, it was crazy. I have no idea. Yeah, it was

01:09:25.859 --> 01:09:28.100
bad. It was bad. So dad right there. Why don't

01:09:28.100 --> 01:09:30.859
you stand up straight for backers? Dumbass. It

01:09:30.859 --> 01:09:33.859
was the greatest line ever. I don't know how

01:09:33.859 --> 01:09:35.600
I was coherent enough to like, remember this

01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:39.380
and stuff, but. He was like, well, dude, you're

01:09:39.380 --> 01:09:41.520
not standing up straight. You're hunched over.

01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:43.739
And I'm like, well, let me try to. And then I

01:09:43.739 --> 01:09:46.140
leaned back the other way. I could not get the

01:09:46.140 --> 01:09:49.720
center of balance. Yeah, it was crazy. Damn.

01:09:51.680 --> 01:09:53.560
Needless to say, I didn't get laid that night

01:09:53.560 --> 01:09:55.119
because I don't think my thing would have been

01:09:55.119 --> 01:09:57.899
working. What do they call that? Brewer's droop,

01:09:57.899 --> 01:10:01.539
right? Yes. Totally had that. Totally had that.

01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:05.970
It ain't working. Plus, we had a room. with my

01:10:05.970 --> 01:10:11.289
parents uh so well yeah that dude i'm great we've

01:10:11.289 --> 01:10:13.569
done that before where i'm like i don't care

01:10:13.569 --> 01:10:16.050
let's go in the shower honey and uh you know

01:10:16.050 --> 01:10:20.529
i don't mind uh mom no i'm like be loud let them

01:10:20.529 --> 01:10:23.229
hear wake them up maybe they'll uh get in to

01:10:23.229 --> 01:10:28.069
their thing let the boy watch yeah he's pounding

01:10:28.069 --> 01:10:30.750
down fucking will ferrell when he has the blonde

01:10:30.750 --> 01:10:33.319
wig on he's talking about making love to his

01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:34.859
wife and his son comes in the room he's like

01:10:34.859 --> 01:10:38.399
let the boy watch that's the greatest show uh

01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:42.279
kenny power hilarious kenny fucking powers so

01:10:42.279 --> 01:10:46.520
good bob a are you ready for bob a's world we

01:10:46.520 --> 01:10:51.399
got some time to uh if you're not no biggie we

01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:56.479
only do this every week bobby uh i'm ready i

01:10:56.479 --> 01:11:00.319
was just i was just pulling up uh a couple things

01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:04.539
um One thing that I'm a little concerned about

01:11:04.539 --> 01:11:12.279
was the potential vice president Harris pick

01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:16.939
for her vice president, potentially. Yeah. Which

01:11:16.939 --> 01:11:21.659
now she apparently has a 53 % in the polls, which

01:11:21.659 --> 01:11:25.159
makes absolutely no fucking sense to me. Yeah,

01:11:25.239 --> 01:11:29.279
I really don't see her actually ever. doing anything.

01:11:29.500 --> 01:11:34.720
She's so annoying. When she gets on TV, I want

01:11:34.720 --> 01:11:38.239
to throw my TV out the window or just shoot it.

01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:40.640
Speaking of TV, Bobby, do you have anything on

01:11:40.640 --> 01:11:42.680
the background? I feel like I could hear a little

01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:46.359
something playing. Hold on a second. Thank you,

01:11:46.380 --> 01:11:51.300
sir. I was watching to make sure that YouTube

01:11:51.300 --> 01:11:59.409
was broadcasting us. Sweet. I have This guy,

01:11:59.609 --> 01:12:03.850
Tim Waltz, that supposedly she wants to bring

01:12:03.850 --> 01:12:08.569
on as a VP. Tim Douchebag. This was Minnesota

01:12:08.569 --> 01:12:12.229
while he was governor during the bullshit that

01:12:12.229 --> 01:12:16.109
happened. Oh, yeah. He refused to call in the

01:12:16.109 --> 01:12:18.670
National Guard. Trump had to do it himself. Trump

01:12:18.670 --> 01:12:20.210
was trying to get him to do it, and he wouldn't

01:12:20.210 --> 01:12:23.850
do it. This is him trying to show his loyalty

01:12:23.850 --> 01:12:27.310
to socialism. There you go. There's the new flag.

01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:30.260
It's fucking insane. It really is. It's like,

01:12:30.300 --> 01:12:34.079
people can't see this? Like, what the fuck? Yeah,

01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:37.979
it's wild to me. I don't understand it. They're

01:12:37.979 --> 01:12:40.279
watching it all move towards socialism, but they're

01:12:40.279 --> 01:12:45.220
getting fucking gaslit by them. It is total gaslighting.

01:12:45.460 --> 01:12:48.840
It's all been a setup. They fear Trump so much,

01:12:48.960 --> 01:12:51.079
they can just install whatever person they want

01:12:51.079 --> 01:12:53.979
to, which again, Kamala was not fucking voted

01:12:53.979 --> 01:12:58.680
on by anybody. No one. voted for her. They're

01:12:58.680 --> 01:13:00.720
just all fine with it. So they just install a

01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:03.319
candidate for you, and now she's bringing on

01:13:03.319 --> 01:13:05.899
even a more radical left fucking VP pick. It's

01:13:05.899 --> 01:13:08.699
like, Jesus Christ. Just in your face, and people

01:13:08.699 --> 01:13:11.199
just like, well, Trump's so bad, we gotta vote

01:13:11.199 --> 01:13:14.520
for socialism. Okay, go ahead. Or they don't

01:13:14.520 --> 01:13:16.279
even think that. They think that they're, you

01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:17.579
know, they think that these people are looking

01:13:17.579 --> 01:13:20.039
out for them, but what they're really trying

01:13:20.039 --> 01:13:22.180
to do is install a form of government that you're

01:13:22.180 --> 01:13:24.359
not gonna like, and no one will like. Right.

01:13:24.909 --> 01:13:27.210
I mean, did they like what was going on this

01:13:27.210 --> 01:13:30.569
past fucking three and a half years? For some

01:13:30.569 --> 01:13:32.470
reason, they might have. What is this, Bobby?

01:13:33.409 --> 01:13:37.289
Okay, this is what was good. I knew as soon as

01:13:37.289 --> 01:13:40.170
the institutions would get into crypto that everything

01:13:40.170 --> 01:13:43.770
we see with crypto was going to happen. We're

01:13:43.770 --> 01:13:48.149
seeing the manipulation to the fucking nth degree.

01:13:49.510 --> 01:13:54.840
You can see how much Gracio owns already. $4

01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:59.899
billion, $5 billion almost. Wow. Bitcoin ETF,

01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:06.039
Franklin Templeton, Gracia, BlackRock. BlackRock.

01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:08.520
I'm surprised BlackRock isn't number one holder,

01:14:08.560 --> 01:14:12.020
actually. I'm sure they will be at some point.

01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:15.520
Yeah, they bought today again. They bought 41

01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:20.579
,000 Bitcoin. So if you could add that up, that's

01:14:20.579 --> 01:14:27.020
a lot. Fuck yeah. $55 ,000 per Bitcoin. Exactly.

01:14:28.180 --> 01:14:32.319
It's crazy. A large number. Absolutely. And then

01:14:32.319 --> 01:14:35.100
BlackRock, I mean, they could have shell corporations

01:14:35.100 --> 01:14:38.020
as well that have all these holdings too that

01:14:38.020 --> 01:14:40.380
they're not showing as actual part of BlackRock

01:14:40.380 --> 01:14:43.739
too. So you can't count them out there. Yeah,

01:14:43.739 --> 01:14:48.470
it's $2 .255 billion. Yeah, yeah. And Michael

01:14:48.470 --> 01:14:51.470
Saylor, he was doing it. He was the first one

01:14:51.470 --> 01:14:53.970
that actually was on top of things. He actually

01:14:53.970 --> 01:14:57.489
knows what the fuck is going on. Micro -strategy,

01:14:57.630 --> 01:15:00.170
right? Yeah. The only cryptos that are going

01:15:00.170 --> 01:15:03.010
to actually survive, they're not going to be

01:15:03.010 --> 01:15:06.189
any of these proof -of -stake bullshit, XRP,

01:15:06.609 --> 01:15:09.949
XLM. They're not going to be those cryptos that

01:15:09.949 --> 01:15:11.970
are proof -of -stake. They're going to be cryptos

01:15:11.970 --> 01:15:16.789
that you have to trade energy and mining power.

01:15:17.579 --> 01:15:20.600
for money you're gonna have to trade something

01:15:20.600 --> 01:15:24.180
for something right that's reality that is the

01:15:24.180 --> 01:15:28.579
reality like um in the past we traded gold or

01:15:28.579 --> 01:15:31.619
silver or something of value you know in the

01:15:31.619 --> 01:15:35.699
potential future when we have a catastrophe we're

01:15:35.699 --> 01:15:38.579
gonna be trading packs of cigarettes you know

01:15:38.579 --> 01:15:42.279
for things you know and people don't realize

01:15:42.279 --> 01:15:45.020
this they should be buying weapons they should

01:15:45.020 --> 01:15:49.659
be buying food like um food for like potential

01:15:49.659 --> 01:15:54.239
um events you know be prepared you know you don't

01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:56.840
have to go crazy you just buy something and make

01:15:56.840 --> 01:15:59.880
sure you have water at least yeah exactly well

01:15:59.880 --> 01:16:01.560
like what canned food like what are you what

01:16:01.560 --> 01:16:03.739
are you gonna do like there's a lot of prepared

01:16:03.739 --> 01:16:07.300
25 year freeze -dried food yeah exactly there's

01:16:07.300 --> 01:16:12.619
a lot of places like uh patriot um planners and

01:16:12.619 --> 01:16:16.720
preparation. Even Costco has their own, they're

01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:19.680
calling it their Armageddon package or something.

01:16:19.899 --> 01:16:23.159
It's crazy. They're actually advertising it like

01:16:23.159 --> 01:16:27.880
that. It's fucking insane. I have emergency food

01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:30.640
and water here, just ready to go. That's good.

01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:33.199
You know, I have filters, I have water, I have

01:16:33.199 --> 01:16:36.979
food. Do you have emergency toilet paper, though?

01:16:37.039 --> 01:16:39.000
Because that's what really got squirrely during

01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:42.189
the... toilet paper. That's retarded. That was

01:16:42.189 --> 01:16:44.170
the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen. And

01:16:44.170 --> 01:16:46.609
that shows you how stupid humanity is. I was

01:16:46.609 --> 01:16:49.989
like, this is what you're hoarding? Toilet paper?

01:16:50.630 --> 01:16:53.630
Fucking idiots. It was the most retarded shit

01:16:53.630 --> 01:16:56.170
I've ever seen. It shows you how really like,

01:16:56.250 --> 01:17:00.750
I don't know, bro. I think like 99 % is on another,

01:17:00.989 --> 01:17:03.069
they're in another world compared to me. I really

01:17:03.069 --> 01:17:05.550
do believe this. They're in another reality.

01:17:06.090 --> 01:17:08.329
After five days of eating, you won't be shitting

01:17:08.329 --> 01:17:10.170
anymore, so you won't need to wipe your ass.

01:17:10.350 --> 01:17:12.909
All that toilet paper will be fucking null and

01:17:12.909 --> 01:17:14.970
void. You know what I'm saying? You don't eat

01:17:14.970 --> 01:17:17.449
for five days. You ain't shitting, people. For

01:17:17.449 --> 01:17:20.550
real. For real. If you fast for five days, you

01:17:20.550 --> 01:17:24.289
don't shit. You could go 30 days without eating.

01:17:24.430 --> 01:17:26.529
That's why I say food is not really the major

01:17:26.529 --> 01:17:30.470
concern. It's water. Water you need at least

01:17:30.470 --> 01:17:33.229
every three days or you're not going to live.

01:17:33.689 --> 01:17:38.430
Water you need. uh this is bitcoin today so it's

01:17:38.430 --> 01:17:42.069
back up to 57 it dropped all the way down to

01:17:42.069 --> 01:17:46.630
48 and i watched it i was up all like during

01:17:46.630 --> 01:17:49.229
the middle of the night to like fucking seven

01:17:49.229 --> 01:17:51.890
in the morning just watching the whole market

01:17:51.890 --> 01:17:55.149
tank before uh monday morning the fucking black

01:17:55.149 --> 01:17:58.529
monday copy that we had so if you bought all

01:17:58.529 --> 01:18:01.470
by design it's all by design if you bought in

01:18:01.470 --> 01:18:04.430
that dip you could have made 10 grand per bitcoin

01:18:04.430 --> 01:18:06.770
that you purchased if you had that type of money

01:18:06.770 --> 01:18:11.750
yeah yeah yeah overnight pretty much exactly

01:18:11.750 --> 01:18:14.449
exactly that's why i was up all night you know

01:18:14.449 --> 01:18:19.069
i wasn't gonna miss out i wasn't gonna miss out

01:18:19.069 --> 01:18:21.310
i bought you know and there's there's an even

01:18:21.310 --> 01:18:24.270
better coin than bitcoin that's that people don't

01:18:24.270 --> 01:18:26.109
know about and i'm not going to tell them about

01:18:26.109 --> 01:18:30.220
it Well, is it a stable coin though? Is it something

01:18:30.220 --> 01:18:31.939
that's been, or is it something that's been -

01:18:31.939 --> 01:18:35.859
It's a proof of work coin that actually one of

01:18:35.859 --> 01:18:38.619
the mining companies that does professional mining

01:18:38.619 --> 01:18:43.420
for Bitcoin is now they're mining it too. So

01:18:43.420 --> 01:18:45.279
if you have the brains to figure it out, you

01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:48.020
could find out what coin it is. Alrighty then.

01:18:48.079 --> 01:18:50.800
You heard it here, folks, on Bob A's World on

01:18:50.800 --> 01:18:54.119
The Gracious Two. We always like to do that.

01:18:54.399 --> 01:18:58.119
Bob A. You should promote your Instagram, too,

01:18:58.300 --> 01:19:01.000
or whatever you like to promote. My Instagram

01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:07.020
is just Mr. Hayes, M -R -H -A -Z -E -0 -0 -0.

01:19:07.840 --> 01:19:10.380
And I really have way too many people hitting

01:19:10.380 --> 01:19:13.420
me up all the time. But if you're cool and you're

01:19:13.420 --> 01:19:15.920
not a fucking idiot, you can hit me up. I don't

01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:19.180
have a problem with it. And what is the triple

01:19:19.180 --> 01:19:21.979
zero for? What does that signify? What were you

01:19:21.979 --> 01:19:25.500
going for there? Well, it was just because Mr.

01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:28.039
Hayes was taken, and I was like, the triple zero,

01:19:28.239 --> 01:19:31.439
like 007, so I was like, 000, fuck it, you know?

01:19:32.300 --> 01:19:35.720
Nice. By the way, so Chad, check this out. Before

01:19:35.720 --> 01:19:39.340
we let the gracious audience go, and we go, back

01:19:39.340 --> 01:19:42.239
in the day, I was getting a telephone. My number

01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:45.659
was 201, so I'm able to pick the number, right?

01:19:46.060 --> 01:19:51.000
So the guy's like, you want 201 -739 -8006, 8007

01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:52.960
-8008. I'm like, I don't give a fuck. Give me

01:19:52.960 --> 01:19:58.000
8006. So then as I get that 8006 number, right

01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:00.539
as I go to give it to somebody, I'm like, oh,

01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:05.220
201 -739 -8006. I'm like, motherfucker. I could

01:20:05.220 --> 01:20:10.300
have had 8007 and been. Damn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:14.140
Ruh -roh. Clockwork orange. When you catch things

01:20:14.140 --> 01:20:16.520
early, bro, that's how you got to do it. You

01:20:16.520 --> 01:20:19.359
got to watch for the trends, watch for the patterns,

01:20:19.560 --> 01:20:22.159
you know, watch what's coming next. I'm sharing

01:20:22.159 --> 01:20:25.479
here, Bobby. Exactly. You know what I'm saying?

01:20:25.500 --> 01:20:27.779
What are you sharing here? Oh, this here is my,

01:20:27.840 --> 01:20:30.880
this is my actual Facebook account. So please

01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:33.699
don't try to hack me. People see that. Justine

01:20:33.699 --> 01:20:37.520
Lynn's hitting you up there, buddy. Yeah. I don't

01:20:37.520 --> 01:20:40.159
know. All these women, they, they just. constantly

01:20:40.159 --> 01:20:41.859
and i don't even know who they are but this this

01:20:41.859 --> 01:20:46.460
was my favorite um you are so handsome it just

01:20:46.460 --> 01:20:50.319
it just popped up um he's looking for either

01:20:50.319 --> 01:20:54.460
your cock or for some money i know how that goes

01:20:54.460 --> 01:20:56.939
you're so handsome oh well thank you uh yeah

01:20:56.939 --> 01:21:02.399
yeah exactly um this was uh stanley kubrick um

01:21:03.730 --> 01:21:07.550
My four favorite Stanley Kubrick. Damn, I can't

01:21:07.550 --> 01:21:09.770
get it to stop on it. The moon landing. One being

01:21:09.770 --> 01:21:13.449
the moon landing. That's hilarious. Yeah. You

01:21:13.449 --> 01:21:20.250
got The Shining. You got Clockwork Orange. You

01:21:20.250 --> 01:21:22.869
got Full Metal Jacket. And you got the moon landing.

01:21:24.350 --> 01:21:27.130
That's funny. It's so crazy. Yeah, I mean, I'm

01:21:27.130 --> 01:21:29.890
still, you know, jury's out with me on whether

01:21:29.890 --> 01:21:32.409
we. made it to the moon or not but it just seems

01:21:32.409 --> 01:21:36.310
like back in the six what was it 69 we supposedly

01:21:36.310 --> 01:21:41.390
landed on the moon yeah and uh they're just saying

01:21:41.390 --> 01:21:45.029
how hard it would be to do today exactly get

01:21:45.029 --> 01:21:47.649
to the moon and land on it and all that jazz

01:21:47.649 --> 01:21:50.850
um i forget what the you know what they were

01:21:50.850 --> 01:21:52.970
saying like they were kind of going over on like

01:21:52.970 --> 01:21:54.869
what you would need to do it and it just seemed

01:21:54.869 --> 01:21:58.930
like almost impossible to do now and so go ahead

01:21:58.930 --> 01:22:02.760
bobby The problem is the Van Allen radiation

01:22:02.760 --> 01:22:05.699
belts. Right. I was just going to say that. You

01:22:05.699 --> 01:22:08.020
can't pass through those radiation belts. And

01:22:08.020 --> 01:22:10.659
the fact that they took photos, come on. They

01:22:10.659 --> 01:22:13.760
didn't take no pictures. Ain't no fucking photography.

01:22:16.060 --> 01:22:21.420
In the type of radiation that's supposedly in

01:22:21.420 --> 01:22:26.380
space. It drives me nuts that these people, what

01:22:26.380 --> 01:22:30.010
they believe. well here's my question how did

01:22:30.010 --> 01:22:34.029
they set up that camera on the moon before they

01:22:34.029 --> 01:22:36.170
landed on the moon to show them like walking

01:22:36.170 --> 01:22:41.170
out of the lunar uh you know vehicle like that

01:22:41.170 --> 01:22:43.989
that that to me is kind of like well how'd you

01:22:43.989 --> 01:22:46.829
get that camera to get that angle there if nobody

01:22:46.829 --> 01:22:49.170
has stepped foot on the moon yet then the dust

01:22:49.170 --> 01:22:52.189
there's no dust on the fucking feet of the lunar

01:22:52.189 --> 01:22:55.479
lander there's no dust anywhere come on Like,

01:22:55.479 --> 01:22:58.720
now we can see it. It's like, now we have the

01:22:58.720 --> 01:23:02.039
technology to see everything. It's like, come

01:23:02.039 --> 01:23:05.079
on, you didn't go to the moon using fucking punch

01:23:05.079 --> 01:23:09.039
cards. You never know, Bobby. You never, never

01:23:09.039 --> 01:23:11.079
know. Yeah, you have more computing power in

01:23:11.079 --> 01:23:14.319
your phone than they had at their disposal with

01:23:14.319 --> 01:23:17.460
all their computers. Insane, dude. A giant room

01:23:17.460 --> 01:23:21.390
full of computers. I think it was to make America

01:23:21.390 --> 01:23:24.350
just get a little boost because we were at war

01:23:24.350 --> 01:23:27.590
and they wanted to say, oh, we got to the moon

01:23:27.590 --> 01:23:30.149
first because Russia launched the first satellite,

01:23:30.409 --> 01:23:32.649
you know, supposedly. I don't think they lost

01:23:32.649 --> 01:23:34.909
shit, to be honest with you, but whatever. But

01:23:34.909 --> 01:23:37.590
why didn't Russia come harder with saying, no,

01:23:37.630 --> 01:23:39.850
you guys didn't. This is bullshit. Like, you

01:23:39.850 --> 01:23:42.529
didn't really. Because now it's a one world thing.

01:23:42.710 --> 01:23:45.850
Like, it's a one world. fucking conspiracy like

01:23:45.850 --> 01:23:49.689
all 26 like there's 26 countries that are part

01:23:49.689 --> 01:23:52.510
of antarctic treaty like there's a reason that

01:23:52.510 --> 01:23:56.409
antarctica is cut off and if people dig deeper

01:23:56.409 --> 01:23:58.829
they'll find that they'll find the truth though

01:23:58.829 --> 01:24:02.609
i mean it's your opinion really but until you

01:24:02.609 --> 01:24:06.130
see it for yourself but that's my truth don't

01:24:06.130 --> 01:24:08.510
dig too deep because you'll Find yourself in

01:24:08.510 --> 01:24:11.750
China. I remember that back in the day. If you

01:24:11.750 --> 01:24:15.090
dig far enough, you'll get to China. I remember

01:24:15.090 --> 01:24:18.949
those Bugs Bunny episodes. I was watching Looney

01:24:18.949 --> 01:24:22.229
Tunes the other day. That's funny. You were watching

01:24:22.229 --> 01:24:24.229
Looney Tunes? I feel like you do so much rabbit

01:24:24.229 --> 01:24:26.689
hole digging, you don't have time for any stuff.

01:24:26.930 --> 01:24:31.130
It was a meme, actually, of the Roadrunner. That

01:24:31.130 --> 01:24:34.479
makes more sense. Yeah. I was like, no way Bobby's

01:24:34.479 --> 01:24:36.140
sitting down and watching himself a full episode

01:24:36.140 --> 01:24:40.600
of Looney Tunes. Anyway, tell the audience, did

01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:42.539
we mention this already, your Rumble channel?

01:24:43.699 --> 01:24:46.260
Because there will be starting soon some exclusive

01:24:46.260 --> 01:24:49.060
videos going there before anywhere else. Yeah,

01:24:49.060 --> 01:24:52.659
see Gracie1 on Rumble. I started that channel.

01:24:53.300 --> 01:24:56.460
And help with the gracious two over there, but

01:24:56.460 --> 01:25:00.760
also it's a freer platform. We can say whatever

01:25:00.760 --> 01:25:03.020
we want. And yeah, I'm going to start putting

01:25:03.020 --> 01:25:07.520
my drum videos up there first. Yes. Before YouTube.

01:25:08.140 --> 01:25:13.539
Mr. Gracie's on Twitter now, too. Yes. What is

01:25:13.539 --> 01:25:17.279
it? Chad Gracie. Yeah. I always forget. Chad

01:25:17.279 --> 01:25:20.520
Gracie live or something. I think. I believe

01:25:20.520 --> 01:25:23.880
that's it. Yeah. Let me see. Yeah. Chad Gracie

01:25:23.880 --> 01:25:26.920
live. Boom. I know it better than he does, folks.

01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:30.000
We were probably, like, the first people to get

01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:33.739
on Twitter and get on Facebook. Like, we have,

01:25:33.800 --> 01:25:37.220
like, the first accounts. We're definitely some

01:25:37.220 --> 01:25:40.319
of the, you know, we definitely adopted Rumble

01:25:40.319 --> 01:25:44.500
real early, which is cool. Yeah, Rumble's good.

01:25:44.640 --> 01:25:46.739
Rumble's good because they don't really censor

01:25:46.739 --> 01:25:49.340
shit. No, they don't. Freedom of speech, as long

01:25:49.340 --> 01:25:50.859
as you're not, you know, part of a terrorist

01:25:50.859 --> 01:25:52.960
organization trying to incite riots and stuff

01:25:52.960 --> 01:25:55.840
like that, like, you're not, you know. they promote

01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:57.979
free speech basically so you could talk all the

01:25:57.979 --> 01:26:00.720
shit you want you could have been conversations

01:26:00.720 --> 01:26:02.600
on there you don't have to worry as it should

01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:04.720
be and if you offend someone they don't they

01:26:04.720 --> 01:26:07.659
can just unfollow you that's it exactly it's

01:26:07.659 --> 01:26:10.119
very easy but yeah they have to troll i just

01:26:10.119 --> 01:26:12.479
got some fucking douchebag on one of the things

01:26:12.479 --> 01:26:14.680
i put up on instagram it's like where did the

01:26:14.680 --> 01:26:17.579
drummer of live turn into a d -bag maga supporter

01:26:18.619 --> 01:26:21.939
I said, after I discovered all the lies, dumbass,

01:26:22.039 --> 01:26:24.640
but you go vote for Connell. Have fun. That's

01:26:24.640 --> 01:26:27.460
crazy. Keep wearing your mask. I can't. They

01:26:27.460 --> 01:26:30.140
have to be paid, bro. They have to be. All these

01:26:30.140 --> 01:26:32.779
people have to be paid by something. There has

01:26:32.779 --> 01:26:34.720
to be. Oh, that's definitely happening. There's

01:26:34.720 --> 01:26:36.760
troll farms fucking just making a discourse.

01:26:37.479 --> 01:26:42.520
There's troll farms, stuff like that. But there's

01:26:42.520 --> 01:26:46.319
also just a real lack of intelligence that is

01:26:46.319 --> 01:26:50.510
a big. Part of society. I'm coming to realize

01:26:50.510 --> 01:26:53.930
like, yeah, a lot of people are dumb. I got to

01:26:53.930 --> 01:26:56.289
want like, I just want to listen to what the

01:26:56.289 --> 01:26:58.729
TV tells them. So that's, you know, well, yeah.

01:26:59.350 --> 01:27:04.609
Kamala IQ is like one 10 or below. And you know,

01:27:04.609 --> 01:27:10.369
how many, one 10 is what I heard, but I feel

01:27:10.369 --> 01:27:14.090
it's even lower, but I heard a real, a real hard

01:27:14.090 --> 01:27:20.300
line that it was 110 IQ. Which, get on my level,

01:27:20.380 --> 01:27:23.399
Kamala, you bitch. Anywho, Tim Wall. That was

01:27:23.399 --> 01:27:27.100
when you select a candidate for DEI. Yeah, that's

01:27:27.100 --> 01:27:29.500
what happens. And then Stephanopoulos was attacking

01:27:29.500 --> 01:27:34.020
Byron Donalds on NBC. Did you see that video?

01:27:34.859 --> 01:27:38.159
No. So Stephanopoulos kept bringing up, why is

01:27:38.159 --> 01:27:39.720
there a race coming into play? Why is there a

01:27:39.720 --> 01:27:41.880
race coming into play in Byron? Trump talked

01:27:41.880 --> 01:27:43.460
about that for two minutes, but then he talked

01:27:43.460 --> 01:27:45.880
about... her lack of experience in anything else.

01:27:45.899 --> 01:27:48.140
She has no experience. And then Stephanopoulos

01:27:48.140 --> 01:27:49.319
would say, well, why do you keep bringing it

01:27:49.319 --> 01:27:52.220
up? It's like, you keep bringing it up. And this

01:27:52.220 --> 01:27:55.260
is exactly why she is in where she is. That's

01:27:55.260 --> 01:27:58.319
why she was picked as VP, so that you couldn't

01:27:58.319 --> 01:28:01.380
talk about her failures because, oh, you're attacking

01:28:01.380 --> 01:28:04.199
a black woman or an Indian woman or a woman or

01:28:04.199 --> 01:28:05.659
whatever you want to call it. It's like, okay,

01:28:05.699 --> 01:28:08.579
we'll first of all define a woman and let's decide

01:28:08.579 --> 01:28:11.760
which one she is. Is she Indian or is she black?

01:28:12.680 --> 01:28:14.960
She picked to pander to a certain amount of people

01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:17.399
because she ran as an Indian American senator.

01:28:17.680 --> 01:28:21.699
No mention of her being black in that. I got

01:28:21.699 --> 01:28:25.680
this meme the other day. Not African. Yes, she's

01:28:25.680 --> 01:28:27.739
not African American. She's Jamaican. Jamaican

01:28:27.739 --> 01:28:31.960
and East Indian. I got a Kamala Harris meme the

01:28:31.960 --> 01:28:37.039
other day. And it was of her and the rally. And

01:28:37.039 --> 01:28:40.380
the guy was holding a color chart. And he was

01:28:40.380 --> 01:28:43.770
like. and the meme said on the bottom deciding

01:28:43.770 --> 01:28:48.109
what race kamala harris will be tonight for the

01:28:48.109 --> 01:28:50.770
exactly And he's looking at the color -coded

01:28:50.770 --> 01:28:54.109
chart. It's crazy. And what accent she brings

01:28:54.109 --> 01:28:59.949
out. She puts on her south black accent to try

01:28:59.949 --> 01:29:01.909
to fucking get a black vote here and there. It's

01:29:01.909 --> 01:29:04.890
rampant on the left. They're constantly pandering

01:29:04.890 --> 01:29:07.329
to whatever fucking group. That's the thing about

01:29:07.329 --> 01:29:09.890
Trump. He doesn't fucking pander. He brought

01:29:09.890 --> 01:29:13.090
that beautiful black woman on stage, Michaela

01:29:13.090 --> 01:29:14.850
Johnson, that he brought on stage in Atlanta.

01:29:16.460 --> 01:29:18.720
he's not like hey what's up girl you know trying

01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:21.439
to he's just talking to her you know normally

01:29:21.439 --> 01:29:24.260
as you should absolutely not to pander to the

01:29:24.260 --> 01:29:27.319
bullshit no you don't have to be something you're

01:29:27.319 --> 01:29:31.140
not just to sway somebody be yourself and uh

01:29:31.140 --> 01:29:34.659
that's what people should be responding to truth

01:29:34.659 --> 01:29:38.619
and fucking realness not fucking put me putting

01:29:38.619 --> 01:29:42.560
on a fake fucking accent or fucking getting tanner

01:29:42.560 --> 01:29:44.939
or something to fucking get your vote like that's

01:29:44.939 --> 01:29:49.270
fucking horrible horrible is that a design on

01:29:49.270 --> 01:29:52.449
your shirt or is that paint or something yeah

01:29:52.449 --> 01:29:55.649
well it's uh ralph lauren fucking it's the polo

01:29:55.649 --> 01:29:58.590
horse but it's in uh the gay pride parade colors

01:29:58.590 --> 01:30:01.670
i think and then there's yeah then there's like

01:30:01.670 --> 01:30:06.449
flat uh fake pink paint spots i paid for uh these

01:30:06.449 --> 01:30:08.670
uh paint spots when i could have just taken a

01:30:08.670 --> 01:30:13.619
white and did it yeah uh I like polo. We're getting

01:30:13.619 --> 01:30:15.600
them as a sponsor. Ralph Lauren, if you're listening,

01:30:15.859 --> 01:30:18.640
I'm going to stop wearing your shit soon. Don't

01:30:18.640 --> 01:30:22.920
wear polos. I wear black ones. I like polos.

01:30:23.039 --> 01:30:25.920
All you wear is black, Chad. You're pandering

01:30:25.920 --> 01:30:28.079
to the black audience. Some girls are calling

01:30:28.079 --> 01:30:29.939
me out on Bumble. She's like, how many black

01:30:29.939 --> 01:30:34.420
t -shirts do you own? Enough. I think every episode

01:30:34.420 --> 01:30:36.220
you have a black t -shirt. That's all I wear.

01:30:36.279 --> 01:30:39.399
I wear a black t -shirt. Smart. I got that off

01:30:39.399 --> 01:30:42.289
Jerry Harrison. Ripped it off of him. boom talking

01:30:42.289 --> 01:30:46.149
heads and great producer all right gracious audience

01:30:46.149 --> 01:30:49.430
we love you we'll see you every tuesday we got

01:30:49.430 --> 01:30:51.670
an insta live show coming up chad and i'll discuss

01:30:51.670 --> 01:30:55.170
when that'll be you just missed a sunday we had

01:30:55.170 --> 01:30:56.930
one going which was fun towards the end of the

01:30:56.930 --> 01:30:59.270
week i don't yeah kids don't come back till the

01:30:59.270 --> 01:31:03.789
11th so rock out with your sock out yeah And

01:31:03.789 --> 01:31:06.829
the Insta Live only shows are just for the audience.

01:31:06.909 --> 01:31:09.390
It's audience participation. You guys could come

01:31:09.390 --> 01:31:11.930
on the broadcast. You guys could just type in

01:31:11.930 --> 01:31:14.890
your comments. There's no agenda there. Sometimes

01:31:14.890 --> 01:31:17.050
we get off on a little floozy on what we want

01:31:17.050 --> 01:31:19.050
to talk about, but it's really for you guys to

01:31:19.050 --> 01:31:21.609
come on and interact and hang and bang and all

01:31:21.609 --> 01:31:24.109
that stuff. So we love you guys. Thank you for,

01:31:24.149 --> 01:31:26.890
and gals, coming on this journey with us. There's

01:31:26.890 --> 01:31:30.930
plenty more. We appreciate it. We do. Bye -bye.

01:31:31.529 --> 01:31:35.100
Say goodbye. I just wanted to talk about one

01:31:35.100 --> 01:31:40.760
more thing. Oh, no. Elon Musk, he's talking about

01:31:40.760 --> 01:31:47.300
buying ABC and canceling The View. Oh, my God,

01:31:47.319 --> 01:31:51.000
that would be fucking great. Those women are

01:31:51.000 --> 01:31:53.640
fucking out of control idiots. Yep, absolutely.

01:31:54.239 --> 01:31:58.779
Those cackling bitches fucking... Dumbest shit.

01:31:58.840 --> 01:32:01.479
It's amazing. I love a billionaire who could

01:32:01.479 --> 01:32:05.039
do shit like that. That is cool. I'll give him

01:32:05.039 --> 01:32:07.640
that. Rock and roll. You're fucking Batman, but

01:32:07.640 --> 01:32:12.760
we know you're Batman. Exactly. The Caped Crusader.

01:32:12.920 --> 01:32:15.020
All right, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,

01:32:15.159 --> 01:32:17.760
it's been real. We thank you. We'll see you again.

01:32:18.100 --> 01:32:21.340
Later, everyone. Let me just do this.