The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 053 - Luke Smerechniak

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Thank you. Preparing. That's for our guest, Chad.

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Preparing. Setting it up. And we are live. Show

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53, Chad. Your age. My age. 53. Sweet. Well,

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you're only 35, but still. Wow. You're a person.

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Yes. What up, man? What's up? This is my favorite

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mug. It's my I Love Intercourse mug. It's Intercourse,

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Pennsylvania. It's double entendre because you're

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like the other kind, too. Yes. Yes, sir. Yes,

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sir. Yo, did you see some Iranian writer was

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arrested and jailed for tweeting a period, a

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dot? at the supreme leader of iran wow dude that's

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crazy bro that's interesting what did what did

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the period what did it fucking represent i don't

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know it didn't the article i read was like wall

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street journal or like one of these bigger publications

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and it i don't you know it didn't get into what

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the significance was behind it but i think it

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was just the fact that he and if you think about

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that could be you you hit reply by mistake and

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fucking hit a peer you know i've sent right stupid

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character by mistake jesus in jail well that's

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what they're trying to institute here so you

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know yes they are they've done in england like

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they're jailing people for instagram posts and

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facebook posts because of the islamophobic thing

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it's like you know all these they've they've

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let all these islamists into their country who

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are not assimilating they have no interest in

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assimilating you know if you want to come to

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a country that's not yours the Great thing to

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do is assimilate and become part of that culture.

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Yeah. But that's not what the Islamists are doing.

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They're immigrating. They're being told by the

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elites to, yeah, come on in. We love you. And

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then when they start doing fucked up shit like

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gang raping girls and stabbing people, when the

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English people come out against that, they're

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then labeled as Islamophobic, and they're the

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bad guys. Crazy how they could do that. And then

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they put something on Facebook about it, and

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they fucking get put in jail by the UK government.

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who continues to condone the behavior the bad

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behavior and i don't give a fuck if they're islamists

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or what what religion they are what they are

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if they're bad people gang raping women fuck

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you exactly i don't care and you know don't use

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this bullshit well you're islamophobic because

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calling that out it's like no that's a crime

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to gang rape a woman yeah it's disgusting and

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horrible fuck you at least be a man and gang

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rape another man uh You know what I'm saying?

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Like, you got to go out there a weaker. Well,

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I mean, you know, go find a gangbang. There's

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plenty of those. Go go gangbang a chick that

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wants to be gangbang. There's lots of those.

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One hundred. Speaking of Bobby, can you pull

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up that second article about the ban on X or

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Twitter in Brazil? It's just just to show you

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again, people out there what the Democrats want

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for this country and how the. guy running for

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vice president uh with fucking shitty vice president

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harris is all for this ban in brazil because

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it's freedom of speech taken away he's a piece

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of shit he's literally a fucking piece of shit

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yeah totally i mean they they don't want any

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free thinking any free speech anything like that

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uh they don't want any dissidents nothing they

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want to be in power and you need to shut the

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fuck up about it right that's what they're going

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for And it's Tim Walz's fucking, like, celebrating

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this shit. Like, what the fuck, dude? Well, he

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loves communist China. He loves the way they

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rule. That's what he wants to do. Look what he

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did for lockdown and the George Floyd riots.

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He let the whole city burn. Didn't call in the

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fucking National Guard. Right. Great. Why would

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he, dude? Why would he want to stop violence

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and stop stuff like that? Like, just let it go,

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man. Both of those people were the most far left

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radical fucking people we've ever had run for

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office. And I can't believe people were just

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like, oh, yeah, she's great. I love Kamala. And

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she what she did that scripted 18 minute fucking

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interview where she need to have waltz with her

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to fucking hold her hand with CNN softball questions.

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She could barely get through it. She will not

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fucking list her goddamn policies on her website.

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And you're just supposed to. Accept it and go

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ahead with it. There you go. This is what you're

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going to get. We don't know what you're going

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to get. Vote for me. And Bobby, can you just

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go to the article a little bit? But yeah, man,

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I mean, and people are stupid enough to do that,

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bro. Did you see what MSNBC? They are stupid

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enough. It's amazing. MSNBC took a Rogan podcast

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where he's talking about Tulsi Gabbard and then

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towards the end of it started like saying. you

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know, about Kamala Harris, like she could win

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with that one speech, but he's completely against

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her clear as day. And he was literally talking

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about Tulsi Gabbard and they edited the two together

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to make it seem like he was for Kamala Harris

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to, you know, to be president. They have to do

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everything to cheat. To fucking make her look

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good. They're hiring actors. To show up to all

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her fucking rallies. You see the videos. You

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see the Craigslist listings. You see all this

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fucking shit. They have videos of the buses pulling

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up. Multiple vans and buses. Who the fuck is

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paying for that? Who is paying to organize that?

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Let's think about it. But they're paying people

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to come to all her fucking rallies. To fill up

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seats. Make it look like she's way more popular

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than she is. And I mean, you literally have a

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woman who no one fucking liked until about a

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month and a half ago. And all of a sudden she

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is the greatest thing since sliced bread selected

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for your ass. And the blue people are just like,

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yeah, we love it. She's going to save us from

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evil Trump. She's going to save democracy by

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completely subverting democracy. I wonder why

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she couldn't do that in her first three and a

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half years as vice president. She's going to

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do the same thing if she becomes president, as

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she's done in the last three and a half years.

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Right. Nothing. And be done. Nothing except for

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the most horrible, fucked up, dumb shit that

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you can think of, like pulling out of Afghanistan,

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getting 13 service members killed and then fucking.

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Going off on Trump when he tries to visit them

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in Arlington National Cemetery, visit their graves.

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The Gold Star family is one of them there. Now

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she's making this big deal like he barged in

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and there was a conflict and he shouldn't be

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doing that. Meanwhile, the Biden administration

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and her have never called one of these people,

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have never called one of these families. Well,

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they put out a weird thing because they weren't

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there. And then they put out a thing saying that

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they weren't. invited to go there by the by the

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families which is funny so the families didn't

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even want them there well maybe you weren't invited

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because you've never fucking reached out to them

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right but what do like do they think that that's

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better to say like we weren't invited like that's

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something wrong that the president and vice president

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weren't invited but ex -president trump was well

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because they know who actually supports the military

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but yeah i mean well they'll they'll say whether

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it's better or worse than just not saying anything

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about they'll say anything they can that they

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think will spin it to make themselves look good

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right but to me the fact we weren't invited so

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we didn't show up oh okay fuck you but the fact

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that you weren't invited speaks volumes of fucking

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how these families think about you you know exactly

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yeah so right so embarrassed that you weren't

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invited and not use that as an excuse of why

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you weren't there Right. So that she'll continue

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down that road. Of course, shit. She'll continue

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with the open fucking border that's destroying

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the country. Yeah. Blatant criminals are fucking

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murdering people. They and then they fucking,

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you know, they hijack all those crime statistics

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and say, oh, no, crime's going down. You're you're

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a racist if you're saying these these illegal

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aliens are committing crime. Yeah, well, they

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are. They're killing people. And guess who doesn't

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reach out to the families of the people that

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get killed by them to the Biden Harris administration.

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But Trump does. Right. But he's just in this

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for himself. Don't worry about it. Yeah. Can

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you imagine being this vilified and still wanting

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to fight for this country and make America great

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again? Like, my God, that guy's life has been

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put into so much peril and so much shit has been

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talked about him, you know, indicted for 34 counts

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of nothing. 34 counts of nothing. Reindicted

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for the bullshit by Jack Smith, who is a fucking

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idiot. He's a loser. People are just fucking.

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I mean, they're literally evil. They continue

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to do the most evil fucking shit. And people

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support them. It's just wild to me. Right. Where's

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the sniper taking him out? Just kidding. But

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seriously, what the fuck, dude? You're going

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after somebody for political reasons who literally

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has yours and your family's and every American's

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best interest at heart. Like, what a fucking

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loser, bro. Yep. Jack Smith. And what a name,

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Jack Smith. And the blue people just support

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it all. It's like. the most weird fucked up anti

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-democratic shit is happening before your fucking

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eyes perpetrated by one side the democrats right

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you just gloss over it and say i support kamala

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because she's a woman and she's not trump i mean

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how wake up from 2016 on till now like they've

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done things so against the democratic process

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it's not even fucking funny dude like the shit

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that they did between hillary and bernie sanders

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like oh they rigged that primary rigged that

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completely rigged this 2020 primary right stole

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now they've rigged the 2020 2023 primary they've

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rigged that one too right by keeping biding it

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biden in they knew he was fucked up in his head

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right time everybody knew it right they kept

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them in through the primary so it couldn't be

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no primary and then of course does the earliest

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presidential debate on in history yeah on record

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yeah hmm shows how fucked up he is steps down

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after basically being forced to step down yeah

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and then installs your candidate that no one

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voted for it crazy bro like that is so undemocratic

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it's insane to talk about and thrown in your

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face and oh right let's just go along with it

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here's our candidate that nobody fucking voted

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blue no matter who like great okay here you go

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democratic this is a democratic process for you

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we're gonna save democracy by the way we're a

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constitutional republic so fuck off so fuck off

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is right yo bobby pull up uh that that article

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on uh salma hayek dude because we were talking

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about this briefly about some hollywood about

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her oh no it's just pictures dude so i just want

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to she's so hot and so whatever but we were talking

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about how elites hollywood elites fucking billionaire

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elites are just aging well uh yeah they very

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well yes they do oh my they didn't eat but here's

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exhibit a man and i think she's sort of l natural

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maybe she's bathing in uh baby blood or whatever

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but my god she's salam bam thank you ma 'am Any

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day. Thank you, Bobby. About to sing any day

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now in the style of the Rocky soundtrack. Rocky.

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Yeah, but listen to Mike Baker on Joe Rogan.

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Yes. He's great. He's awesome. Hello. Yes. Hello.

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Now, Bobby, if you scroll down, it'll actually

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pull up where it's like her Instagram and you

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can go through like 10 pictures. She's driving

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the boat with her feet. Isn't she fancy? She's

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almost as cool as Tommy Lee steering the boat

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with his third leg. Remember? Oh, my God. Hello,

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Salma. Yeah, if you keep going, Bobby, it's just

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like a little Instagram thing, and you can click

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through it. Dancing on the front of the yacht.

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Good for her. And J -Lo, her and Ben Affleck

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done, huh? Wow, that's a surprise. I can't believe

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it. The second time they were, oh, for some reason

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it's asking you to pull up. You don't have to

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pull up on Instagram if you don't want to. But

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anyway, gracious audience and perverts alike,

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if you want to go check that out, it's well worth

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your time. She's still hot. All right. Bob, we

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got the point. But Chad, Bob, if you want to

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look up while you're not sharing, tell us how

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old she is. She's got to be in her 50s, right?

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I'm thinking late 50s, bro. shit more than me

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god damn you look good you know what i'm saying

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but that's she's got that uh i don't know spanish

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blood like some kind of latin i don't know what

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her actual nationality is but a lot of those

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uh latin people age pretty well yes i think i'm

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gonna do all right because i have oily skin and

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i think that helps with wrinkles uh oily you're

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sebaceous yes as soon as i as soon as i shower

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i get through uh grease all over myself But I

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was just – they say you – Looks like a napkin

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on a pepperoni pizza. A hundred, dude. I got

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to wipe off my forehead. It's like, oh, boy.

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No, but it's like combination skin. So it's like

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I get out of the shower, my skin feels dry, and

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then within five minutes it's like I got a nice

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shine going. Oh, you have combination skin. Combination

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skin. Do you need some hydrolonic acid for it?

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Yes, I do. And some, yeah. Retinol A. Brett and

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all I heard about that shit. I heard that works

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good. Speaking that that's an article I read.

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They say we age in two different stages at 44

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and age 60. Okay. It's not like a gradual thing,

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but like those two ages or right around there

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is like when molecular changes happen to your

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body and all that. And that's when like real

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aging process sets in. And they were saying to

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the 44 one, like. cut down your caffeine intake

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cut down your alcohol intake because your body

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stops processing them as well and they were saying

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to do like retinol a and all that shit too she's

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58 bro wow 58 five years older than me damn my

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god i haven't seen her on raya so if i do i'll

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be swiping left or right i think she's married

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to some fucking billionaire dude of course she

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is yeah uh well let's get to our guest dude because

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we're a little late running me on schedule i'm

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gonna say welcome luke because when i tried to

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pronounce his name earlier i said smarish and

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yak and i don't know if that's proper i'm sure

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this is uh something he's used to yes yes uh

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which we will correct it when he gets on here

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that's right uh yo what's up so luke how do you

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pronounce that last name i'm in smoresniak i

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was close it's okay no one gets it right even

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after i pronounce it so that's why you're just

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luke hybrid on the instagram pretty much yeah

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luke s hybrid i just did not want to yeah i didn't

00:15:49.429 --> 00:15:51.210
want to mess i mean i've thought about changing

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my last name too but you know no way dude maybe

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when i get married or something I'm taking my

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wife's name because I can't handle it. Yeah,

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I mean, yeah, especially in the music industry.

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I mean, yeah. And then what? Probably in school,

00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:10.379
too. Every teacher was like, oh, yeah. Or like

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whenever I like got called up to the office to

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like leave for the day or whatever, it was always

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like, you know, on the PA, like they would try

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to say the last thing. I'm like, just don't.

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Yeah, stop. From the freshman class, please come

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up here. There probably was a few times where

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they just said Lucas, but a lot of the time they

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did try to say the last name. I'm just like,

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no, you're not going to be able to say it nine

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times out of 10. Well, I could imagine because

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my last name is Rotolo and it's R -O -T -O -L

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-O. And I get that pronounced a lot. And they're

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like, you know, they'll say whatever. And then,

00:16:47.330 --> 00:16:49.610
well, how do you pronounce? I'm like, R -O -T

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-O -L -O. Not that difficult. I mean, no, no.

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I think people just overthink it. yeah totally

00:16:57.750 --> 00:17:02.149
yours you have to overthink it too yeah yeah

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you do hey dude i'm loving the uh posters behind

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you though thank you thank you rock on cut off

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but yeah then some cool bands on there i see

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uh a live one from throwing copper there's throwing

00:17:17.289 --> 00:17:19.630
copper yeah yeah and there's another one i think

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hiding too yes oh the flat from secret somebody

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cool yes i see that Oh, Chad, that's something

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I want to talk to you about. And, Luke, you can

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hop in on this, too. On somebody's Twitter, or

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I think it was Twitter, they posted, like, your

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tour's itinerary. Live's tour, like, from 95,

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97. And it was, like, a fucking book with pages.

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And each day was, like, you know, June 5th. Oh,

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it was the tour book? yeah itinerary but so it

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said like what hotels you were at what hotels

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yeah we get those you would get with the one

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of those at the beginning of every tour you get

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a you know the tour book we call it the book

00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:03.279
of lies because it ended up being a bunch of

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bullshit but at least it has the right cities

00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:08.599
and the right dates so you know but the hotels

00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:11.880
often change but uh yeah you get one of those

00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:13.880
every tour so you know what the fuck you're doing

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so was that just for you guys or was that for

00:18:16.980 --> 00:18:20.359
like the crew and that's for everybody it was

00:18:20.359 --> 00:18:22.779
for everybody Everyone on the tour would get

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one. Gotcha. Bus drivers, roadies, us, tour manager,

00:18:27.980 --> 00:18:33.759
everybody. It said Chad Gracie must have 18 -year

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-old to 20 -year -old hot chick in his room at

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every stop on the tour. So I was wondering. I

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should have said that. I did not, but I should

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have. Got to put that in your rider, bro. I got

00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:47.380
my own personal rider for chicks. Yes, sir. So,

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Luke, talk to me, dude. You're a musician. Yes,

00:18:50.579 --> 00:18:55.000
sir. What do you play? A little bit of guitar,

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a little bit of piano, mostly a singer. That's

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my jam. Hell yeah. So you're in Omaha, right?

00:19:05.779 --> 00:19:08.559
Yep. Are you gigging around there and stuff?

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Not really. I probably should, but no. I like

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it. I probably should. I like Omaha. We've been

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there a couple of times. It seems like pretty

00:19:20.569 --> 00:19:23.309
cool. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's a cool place.

00:19:23.349 --> 00:19:26.829
It's as far as music scene goes, it's not really

00:19:26.829 --> 00:19:30.269
like the best place to be, but you know, there's

00:19:30.269 --> 00:19:32.269
been some bands that have came from here. I mean,

00:19:32.269 --> 00:19:35.210
three 11, most notably really from Omaha. Okay.

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I didn't know that. Wow. Very cool. All those

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guys are from there, huh? I'm pretty sure. Yeah.

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You got that counting crows song called Omaha,

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which is a pretty good crow song. We do. As a

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New Jersey boy, native man, whatever, I always

00:19:53.500 --> 00:19:57.779
pictured Omaha as like farm. You're a cis white

00:19:57.779 --> 00:20:00.940
male, John. Just knock it off. Well, I'm just

00:20:00.940 --> 00:20:02.839
showing how dumb and naive I am. But seriously,

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that's what like when if you said Omaha to me,

00:20:05.380 --> 00:20:07.579
like that's where my brain is going. I mean,

00:20:07.579 --> 00:20:09.720
that's a lot of people that grew up like in the

00:20:09.720 --> 00:20:12.279
Northeast. You know, that's just how it is, you

00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:14.180
know, because I mean, if you haven't really.

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traveled the country all that much I mean including

00:20:17.490 --> 00:20:21.069
some of my own family you know like they they

00:20:21.069 --> 00:20:22.849
come here and they're like oh wow it's a really

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nice place you know but like before they come

00:20:25.529 --> 00:20:27.390
here it's just like oh you know what's there

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to do in in Omaha and and to be fair I mean I

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was kind of like that too before we moved here

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I was born here um but we moved when I was two

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cool military so ah quite a lot when I was younger

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I was gonna say you're getting around Yeah, yeah.

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Are you good at making friends? Because that

00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:48.259
happens to a lot of military kids. Yeah, I mean.

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Or they're complete introverts. Yeah, yeah. I

00:20:53.339 --> 00:20:55.819
mean, definitely when I was younger, for sure,

00:20:55.819 --> 00:20:58.339
it was difficult. I think now it's become easier,

00:20:58.579 --> 00:21:00.940
but. That's cool. And so you decided to come

00:21:00.940 --> 00:21:04.500
back to Omaha after moving away? Yeah, my parents

00:21:04.500 --> 00:21:06.339
wanted to really come back here because they

00:21:06.339 --> 00:21:08.480
really liked it when they originally, you know.

00:21:09.319 --> 00:21:13.700
were here you know in the early 2000s um but

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yeah we lived in southeast of virginia for most

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of my life it was like 10 10 11 years there's

00:21:19.819 --> 00:21:22.680
another shitty state in my book dude come on

00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:26.539
bro you gotta go to cool state like uh california

00:21:26.539 --> 00:21:29.299
no i'm just kidding i don't like virginia no

00:21:29.299 --> 00:21:32.920
i used to be used to be here i'm joking california

00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:35.839
used to be awesome but yeah yeah thanks uh what

00:21:35.839 --> 00:21:39.220
branch of military was your dad uh air force

00:21:39.220 --> 00:21:42.339
oh cool okay rock on i like all things military

00:21:42.339 --> 00:21:45.819
that's why i asked yeah yeah he was in the air

00:21:45.819 --> 00:21:50.079
force for 20 maybe even more than 20 years i

00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:54.140
know 24 yeah wow so he actually retired like

00:21:54.140 --> 00:21:57.099
full military thing like he did the full 20 at

00:21:57.099 --> 00:21:59.039
least because i think that's what you do years

00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:03.200
to retire yep um that's awesome i tell your dad

00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:06.049
thank you for his service yeah He's probably

00:22:06.049 --> 00:22:08.069
going to listen to this podcast anyway, so we'll

00:22:08.069 --> 00:22:10.930
hear. Cool. Well, thank you for your service,

00:22:11.049 --> 00:22:16.450
Mr. S. I'll say that. Thank you, sir. I'm sure

00:22:16.450 --> 00:22:20.109
that was fun in the military, too. Yeah, I'm

00:22:20.109 --> 00:22:23.630
sure it was. I'm sure. Yeah. They probably didn't

00:22:23.630 --> 00:22:26.059
even bother. Or if they did, they just completely

00:22:26.059 --> 00:22:28.779
butchered it, maybe on purpose. Probably, yeah.

00:22:29.099 --> 00:22:32.079
20 years in, you're getting up there in ranks.

00:22:32.099 --> 00:22:34.400
So he had, like, people below him that probably

00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:36.579
had to say his name, like, thank you, Sergeant

00:22:36.579 --> 00:22:38.680
Smerishniak, or, you know, whatever. Like, they

00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:41.000
had to. Yeah, yeah. I don't know exactly what

00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:45.019
rank he was, but I know, you know, he was getting

00:22:45.019 --> 00:22:48.319
up there. Yeah. You know, with some stuff that

00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:52.420
I probably shouldn't talk about, but. I like

00:22:52.420 --> 00:22:54.720
that. Red team go, red team go. Luke's about

00:22:54.720 --> 00:22:59.039
the spill. At least he wasn't stationed at Wright

00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:00.779
-Patterson, so there's some weird shit that goes

00:23:00.779 --> 00:23:05.579
on there. Yeah, Wright -Patterson, that's in

00:23:05.579 --> 00:23:09.720
Dayton, Ohio. Yeah, we were actually stationed.

00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:11.440
Oh, you were there. Okay, well, maybe. Okay,

00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:13.900
maybe it is some weird shit. Okay, cool. Yeah,

00:23:13.900 --> 00:23:16.359
let's go. I mean, weird shit, I mean like top

00:23:16.359 --> 00:23:19.619
secret -ish stuff. Yeah, there was definitely

00:23:19.619 --> 00:23:23.700
some stuff, I think. interesting so did he leak

00:23:23.700 --> 00:23:27.000
to you or did you like stumble on and see like

00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:30.980
how did you come of knowledge of this um i mean

00:23:30.980 --> 00:23:34.200
he is he has just hinted to me about yeah he

00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:37.920
never really you know fully went out and like

00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:39.660
said things probably because he knows that he's

00:23:39.660 --> 00:23:43.460
not supposed to which you know yeah things can

00:23:43.460 --> 00:23:46.920
hire but still it's you know sure it'd be just

00:23:46.920 --> 00:23:51.059
you know outwardly leaking you know no those

00:23:51.059 --> 00:23:52.900
clearance rules still apply even when you're

00:23:52.900 --> 00:23:55.740
retired yeah they definitely what you're telling

00:23:55.740 --> 00:23:57.539
us luke is next time you're on here we got to

00:23:57.539 --> 00:23:59.640
get you drunk first and then we could get this

00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:02.279
info divulged to us all right i got to read you

00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:06.839
loud and clear buddy uh so imagine this luke

00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:10.859
uh getting back to your music uh do you uh perform

00:24:10.859 --> 00:24:13.099
like original stuff what you're singing and stuff

00:24:13.099 --> 00:24:15.500
are you kind of doing your own uh music you're

00:24:15.500 --> 00:24:17.480
doing covers how's that working out A lot of

00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:21.220
covers. A lot of covers, sure. Definitely some

00:24:21.220 --> 00:24:23.420
original stuff here and there. I mean, as I get

00:24:23.420 --> 00:24:25.819
better with the guitar, I think I will probably

00:24:25.819 --> 00:24:28.240
start doing more original stuff. And I really

00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:31.099
want to get a band together too, you know? I

00:24:31.099 --> 00:24:33.579
know that part in Omaha, dude. There's like only

00:24:33.579 --> 00:24:38.150
farmers and cowboys out there. it is tough and

00:24:38.150 --> 00:24:39.829
it's tough too because i didn't grow up here

00:24:39.829 --> 00:24:42.470
so i don't really have like the the roots that

00:24:42.470 --> 00:24:45.890
i did back in virginia where i did i was in a

00:24:45.890 --> 00:24:49.069
couple of bands there you know but i don't know

00:24:49.069 --> 00:24:53.349
you know to be have to have lived all this life

00:24:53.349 --> 00:24:55.690
like i'm picturing you like 19 right now am i

00:24:55.690 --> 00:25:00.849
am i way off um 22 okay so i'm that way off no

00:25:00.849 --> 00:25:02.869
oh my god did you have so many more years to

00:25:02.869 --> 00:25:06.559
meet people and form a band yeah hone your craft

00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:08.279
right now dude like you know what i'm saying

00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:12.559
yeah that that guitar should be on your legs

00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:16.799
right now you should be kind of stuff you're

00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:19.500
covering like what's what's your uh bands of

00:25:19.500 --> 00:25:24.039
choice or artists of choice right now currently

00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:27.160
i've been really heavily into altar bridge i

00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:30.519
don't know if you know oh absolutely yeah I've

00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:34.000
met Mark a few times. Really? Obviously, we know

00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:36.519
Creed, and that's his other band to get away

00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:41.700
from Scott Statton. Who he's back with now. Scott

00:25:41.700 --> 00:25:45.259
has had a rough past, but he's doing a lot better

00:25:45.259 --> 00:25:48.299
now. Well, that is good. I'm glad he's doing

00:25:48.299 --> 00:25:50.339
better, but yeah, he was out of control for a

00:25:50.339 --> 00:25:53.579
while. We had a security guard who worked with

00:25:53.579 --> 00:25:55.000
us for a while and then went to work with Creed,

00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:56.900
and boy, I'll tell you, there's some good fucking

00:25:56.900 --> 00:25:59.660
stories, but I'm not going to divulge any. I'm

00:25:59.660 --> 00:26:02.680
sure there is, yeah. But everyone at least has

00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:06.619
heard of that Chicago show that happened, I think,

00:26:06.619 --> 00:26:10.599
at Allstate Arena in late 2002, which is funny.

00:26:10.779 --> 00:26:13.619
Oh, my security guy was there for that. He told

00:26:13.619 --> 00:26:16.410
me all about it. Really? Yeah. Okay. Yep. My

00:26:16.410 --> 00:26:19.490
guys and the band Default were actually offered

00:26:19.490 --> 00:26:21.089
to do that show because they were touring with

00:26:21.089 --> 00:26:24.009
them around that time. But they were fine because

00:26:24.009 --> 00:26:26.569
they were I think they were touring pretty much

00:26:26.569 --> 00:26:28.930
for the entire year and they wanted to, you know,

00:26:28.930 --> 00:26:30.930
to get home, you know, spend time with their

00:26:30.930 --> 00:26:33.309
families for the holidays. So probably a good

00:26:33.309 --> 00:26:36.529
decision in retrospect to not associate it with

00:26:36.529 --> 00:26:39.470
that. I don't even know who actually opened for

00:26:39.470 --> 00:26:45.009
them that show. Probably, or Scott doesn't know

00:26:45.009 --> 00:26:48.750
who opened for them. Scott, for sure, I don't

00:26:48.750 --> 00:26:51.750
think would know. Well, the funny part about

00:26:51.750 --> 00:26:55.890
that is Creed's lyrics are very religious. There's

00:26:55.890 --> 00:26:58.329
Bible passages in them and stuff, so you thought

00:26:58.329 --> 00:27:01.450
it was a really hard Christian rock band and

00:27:01.450 --> 00:27:05.089
there was no weird stuff going on into it, and

00:27:05.089 --> 00:27:09.109
then he's a crystal meth head with Kid Rock.

00:27:09.329 --> 00:27:11.369
Weird shit happens to lead singers when they

00:27:11.369 --> 00:27:14.630
get famous. right yeah if you're not very fucking

00:27:14.630 --> 00:27:17.230
stable you're going to go over the edge well

00:27:17.230 --> 00:27:19.029
and that's the thing too he was dealing with

00:27:19.029 --> 00:27:20.950
like bipolar disorder which he didn't even know

00:27:20.950 --> 00:27:22.809
at the time and he was getting this you know

00:27:22.809 --> 00:27:25.529
prescribed you know antidepressants you know

00:27:25.529 --> 00:27:28.210
like he he told the story of like how he walked

00:27:28.210 --> 00:27:31.410
into a walk -in clinic in like 1999 while they're

00:27:31.410 --> 00:27:33.869
on tour because he didn't feel right and he got

00:27:33.869 --> 00:27:36.130
described you know prescribed antidepressants

00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:39.140
and didn't know that he wasn't supposed to drink

00:27:39.140 --> 00:27:42.160
on them didn't know that like you know not getting

00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:44.980
prescribed the right medication can have you

00:27:44.980 --> 00:27:46.940
know can make things even worse like this was

00:27:46.940 --> 00:27:50.400
25 years ago and it still can be that way by

00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:53.480
the way but you know back then it was you know

00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:57.240
even worse but i gotta say for most people i

00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:00.500
mean it's written right on your bottle to not

00:28:00.500 --> 00:28:05.259
take with alcohol so maybe the guy prescribing

00:28:05.259 --> 00:28:08.069
didn't tell him maybe the pharmacist left that

00:28:08.069 --> 00:28:10.950
out but uh it literally says right on the bottle

00:28:10.950 --> 00:28:13.349
some people just don't want to read too right

00:28:13.349 --> 00:28:16.849
right i just think it's a fucking funny cop i

00:28:16.849 --> 00:28:18.670
mean again i don't know personally i'm just gonna

00:28:18.670 --> 00:28:21.549
say i think that's a bunch of horse shit and

00:28:21.549 --> 00:28:25.750
he was a raging crystal method because you hear

00:28:25.750 --> 00:28:27.549
stories from i don't know if it's his ex -wife

00:28:27.549 --> 00:28:29.910
but it certainly was going to be like he tried

00:28:29.910 --> 00:28:33.009
to like kill her and stuff and like a couple

00:28:33.009 --> 00:28:36.210
times cops had to be called so like i don't know

00:28:36.210 --> 00:28:38.549
and from what i heard it was like hard ex -wife

00:28:38.549 --> 00:28:41.109
because he just got divorced recently is that

00:28:41.109 --> 00:28:45.769
the ex it was the one from like 2002 like whenever

00:28:45.769 --> 00:28:48.250
he went off the deep end when he had his first

00:28:48.250 --> 00:28:51.809
son with uh jagger yeah yes yes i forget her

00:28:51.809 --> 00:28:54.890
name but i know his first son was jagger yeah

00:28:54.890 --> 00:28:58.369
yeah i read a story like from a journal again

00:28:58.369 --> 00:29:00.250
the journalist to her but it was like an interview

00:29:00.250 --> 00:29:02.930
and she was just describing such an awful situation

00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:05.660
And I was like, oh, my God, this dude, because

00:29:05.660 --> 00:29:07.240
he's like, again, I thought he was a heavily

00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:10.359
religious guy. But I guess sometimes. Although

00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:13.339
keep in mind, I mean, I don't know. I honestly

00:29:13.339 --> 00:29:16.299
I've heard things before about that. And I also

00:29:16.299 --> 00:29:18.220
heard that she tried to do something to him,

00:29:18.220 --> 00:29:20.900
too. So it just sounds like a very messy situation.

00:29:21.019 --> 00:29:23.640
But keep in mind, too, like if they were divorced

00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:26.259
at the time, she might have just been trying

00:29:26.259 --> 00:29:29.869
to. you know on herself i mean you never know

00:29:29.869 --> 00:29:32.250
yeah no you're right i don't know i don't know

00:29:32.250 --> 00:29:35.630
the entire situation so right i don't want to

00:29:35.630 --> 00:29:38.869
speculate on it but you know look at you being

00:29:38.869 --> 00:29:42.690
uh don't want to speculate bro how are you for

00:29:42.690 --> 00:29:45.670
22 years old you should get a job at cnn and

00:29:45.670 --> 00:29:48.309
uh teach them not to speculate uh just kidding

00:29:48.309 --> 00:29:53.809
uh dude i like a good story Yeah, go, Chad. Oh,

00:29:53.950 --> 00:29:56.490
Chad, yes. Is this about Scott? No, no, I'm not

00:29:56.490 --> 00:30:00.289
telling that. Oh, okay. No, not the Marilyn Manson

00:30:00.289 --> 00:30:03.670
story. Yes, that's coming up, though. That's

00:30:03.670 --> 00:30:05.630
a long -form story. It takes a while. No, this

00:30:05.630 --> 00:30:10.029
story was about Scott, and he either owned or

00:30:10.029 --> 00:30:13.710
rented a Lamborghini convertible, like a, what

00:30:13.710 --> 00:30:15.750
was it at the time, an Aventador or something

00:30:15.750 --> 00:30:19.869
like that. And there's this hotel in Miami Beach

00:30:19.869 --> 00:30:22.960
called Shore Club. And everyone would stay there.

00:30:22.980 --> 00:30:24.200
I don't know if it's still the case. I haven't

00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:27.700
been there many years. So it was like a scene

00:30:27.700 --> 00:30:30.400
to pull up in front of this place, right? Everyone

00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:33.079
was outside. It was like fucking crowded. And

00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:38.200
he stopped on the street and then got four big

00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:41.180
black security guards on each corner of the car

00:30:41.180 --> 00:30:44.220
to jog along the car as he pulled into Shore

00:30:44.220 --> 00:30:49.049
Club. Pulls in this big spectacle. crazy car

00:30:49.049 --> 00:30:51.549
and these four guys running along the car and

00:30:51.549 --> 00:30:53.670
then they fucking denied him so he had to pull

00:30:53.670 --> 00:30:56.789
out so he couldn't get in how embarrassing bro

00:30:56.789 --> 00:31:01.390
pull down the driveway with the guys and jogging

00:31:01.390 --> 00:31:03.130
alongside him was like dude you didn't even get

00:31:03.130 --> 00:31:07.890
in short club sorry denied almost like he was

00:31:07.890 --> 00:31:12.150
doing all that so he could get into 100 he was

00:31:12.150 --> 00:31:14.789
trying to make a big scene to look fucking cool

00:31:14.789 --> 00:31:16.869
and they're like nope sorry dude can't come in

00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:20.960
that's hysterical uh so i'm gonna ask you this

00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:23.059
question i i probably know the answer but i'm

00:31:23.059 --> 00:31:25.720
it's gonna lead to a funny uh little thing i

00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:28.099
had with this girl way back in the day is that

00:31:28.099 --> 00:31:30.420
is your hair bleached is that is that or is that

00:31:30.420 --> 00:31:33.420
uh yeah it's bleached yeah it's cool i did that

00:31:33.420 --> 00:31:36.099
way back in the day too but this is funny luke

00:31:36.099 --> 00:31:40.680
so i run into this chick in like 2005 in like

00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:43.579
a walgreens or fucking some supermarket something

00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:47.240
And she was a blonde haired girl whose hair was

00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:52.220
now dyed like ultra violet blue, like really

00:31:52.220 --> 00:31:55.119
like an unnatural color. And I'm like, oh, blah,

00:31:55.220 --> 00:31:56.380
blah, blah. I love your hair. It looks cool.

00:31:56.420 --> 00:31:58.220
She's like, oh, well, you know, this isn't natural.

00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:04.279
I'm like, yeah. No, no, I totally I thought you

00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:08.640
were. That's funny. It was terrible. Dude, it

00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:11.940
made my jaw drop. I was like. yes i definitely

00:32:11.940 --> 00:32:16.180
you know it's not natural oh okay thank you oh

00:32:16.180 --> 00:32:20.039
dude it was funny but uh great do you can another

00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:22.200
another story luke so the first time i got my

00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:24.579
hair bleached i went to like a place to get it

00:32:24.579 --> 00:32:26.859
done professionally and i got black hair as you

00:32:26.859 --> 00:32:29.480
could tell by mine and i still do that by the

00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:31.940
way because i don't trust myself or even know

00:32:31.940 --> 00:32:35.339
how to start like good because here's my hair

00:32:35.339 --> 00:32:38.339
to turn orange let's just say that no bad things

00:32:38.339 --> 00:32:40.559
can happen well that i mean the worst thing is

00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:44.259
you just shave it yeah lose my yeah true but

00:32:44.259 --> 00:32:46.420
i can tell with that hair man that's part of

00:32:46.420 --> 00:32:48.400
your fucking your look man you don't want to

00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:51.859
shave that bad boy off yeah well anyway so i

00:32:51.859 --> 00:32:53.859
went like the third time i did i was like this

00:32:53.859 --> 00:32:55.759
is a little expensive i'm gonna try and do it

00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:58.799
on my own went and bought the kit and put it

00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.279
on my head you know left it on for two hours

00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:03.779
three hours whatever because black going to white

00:33:03.779 --> 00:33:08.710
was hard and by the time i took it off it had

00:33:08.710 --> 00:33:12.750
patches of it had literally broke at the fucking

00:33:12.750 --> 00:33:15.509
on my head because i left it on so long and it

00:33:15.509 --> 00:33:19.450
like just broke so like had white hair with patches

00:33:19.450 --> 00:33:23.769
just falling out uh this was like my senior year

00:33:23.769 --> 00:33:26.109
of high school and i was like oh god this is

00:33:26.109 --> 00:33:31.190
bad oh yeah yeah i did after a couple days like

00:33:31.190 --> 00:33:33.710
i tried to spike it up so you couldn't see it

00:33:33.710 --> 00:33:36.369
and it just wasn't working so yeah i had to do

00:33:36.369 --> 00:33:39.650
that So that's why I keep going to those professional

00:33:39.650 --> 00:33:41.490
places, man. People must have been fucking on

00:33:41.490 --> 00:33:46.609
your shit at school, dude. Yes and no. They were

00:33:46.609 --> 00:33:49.670
kind of cool. And I did hide it pretty well.

00:33:50.250 --> 00:33:53.789
But a couple of my closer friends didn't notice.

00:33:53.890 --> 00:33:55.309
And then once that got around, I was like, fuck

00:33:55.309 --> 00:33:58.829
this. So before anybody could really take hold

00:33:58.829 --> 00:34:01.869
and know what happened, it was gone. But yeah,

00:34:01.990 --> 00:34:05.049
senior year, man. Grew back before prom, which

00:34:05.049 --> 00:34:07.680
was cool. Very good. All right, good. So you

00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:09.420
look good for prom. Yeah, at least you caught

00:34:09.420 --> 00:34:13.099
a break there. Yeah, man. You remember prom,

00:34:13.219 --> 00:34:15.400
Luke? Did you get laid during prom? Did you go

00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:17.599
to prom? We actually didn't have, I mean, we

00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:19.619
didn't have our senior prom because I was part

00:34:19.619 --> 00:34:23.280
of the 2020 class, which. Oh, shit. I all screwed

00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:27.039
up. Motherfucker. Yeah. Wow. So he's one of those.

00:34:27.460 --> 00:34:30.480
Yeah, man. The 2020 crew that didn't get a fucking

00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:32.599
graduation or a prom or anything. That sucks,

00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:36.059
dude. Totally. They didn't do a makeup for you?

00:34:36.099 --> 00:34:39.179
Like, let's do a prom the next year. Right. They

00:34:39.179 --> 00:34:43.440
should have the 2020 prom now. And invite me,

00:34:43.500 --> 00:34:46.579
Luke. Because we're all 18 now, Chad. I could

00:34:46.579 --> 00:34:50.579
go. No, they're all like 22 now, bud. Well, whatever.

00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:52.320
I mean, they're above the age where I got to

00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:56.940
worry. Ish. Right. Hey, 18 is fair game. I don't

00:34:56.940 --> 00:34:58.500
want your old ass there, motherfucker. What are

00:34:58.500 --> 00:35:00.699
you doing? I know. I asked for ID, dude, because

00:35:00.699 --> 00:35:02.860
you really never know nowadays. So if I'm talking

00:35:02.860 --> 00:35:05.820
to a chick, I'm like, let me see that ID, bitch.

00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:09.820
Oh, yeah. I don't say bitch. I'm just being tough

00:35:09.820 --> 00:35:15.039
right now. I'm like, man, miss, lady. But yeah,

00:35:15.059 --> 00:35:19.039
man. So talk to me about growing. So you said

00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.380
two, you moved to Virginia, right? Yep. And what

00:35:22.380 --> 00:35:24.849
age you moved back to Omaha? Yeah, well, actually,

00:35:24.949 --> 00:35:28.170
I mean, we moved from here to Massachusetts to

00:35:28.170 --> 00:35:31.789
Ohio and then to Nebraska. I mean, to Virginia.

00:35:32.130 --> 00:35:35.190
Okay. So, yeah, Massachusetts is cool. Sorry,

00:35:35.329 --> 00:35:38.449
Chad. That's all right. I was just saying. Oh,

00:35:38.550 --> 00:35:42.789
okay. I got a rambling mouth there, Luke. If

00:35:42.789 --> 00:35:45.969
you don't stop me, I won't stop. Isn't Chad a

00:35:45.969 --> 00:35:51.289
Red Sox fan? uh not a real i mean baseball is

00:35:51.289 --> 00:35:54.190
i i just for a while i just wore the hats i loved

00:35:54.190 --> 00:35:58.250
all that like i wore boston hats and and uh yeah

00:35:58.250 --> 00:36:01.130
because i remember you twins hats and videos

00:36:01.130 --> 00:36:03.469
and so yeah i'm not really a i'm not really a

00:36:03.469 --> 00:36:06.269
sports fan per se so i don't really watch any

00:36:06.269 --> 00:36:10.469
sports you like colors i just like colors no

00:36:10.469 --> 00:36:15.320
i'm uh yeah my My dad wasn't really into baseball

00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:17.380
either. My dad was more into football, and he

00:36:17.380 --> 00:36:20.940
liked the Colts until they moved out of Baltimore.

00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:24.400
And then he was a Steelers fan. But we were in

00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:26.119
Pennsylvania, so we were closer to Philly, but

00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:28.480
he didn't like the Eagles. You fucked the Eagles.

00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:31.900
But anyway, no, I'm not a Red Sox fan. I'm not

00:36:31.900 --> 00:36:34.420
not a fan of the Red Sox. I mean, great, but

00:36:34.420 --> 00:36:37.820
I don't follow anybody. I am not a fan of the

00:36:37.820 --> 00:36:41.289
Red Sox because I'm a Yankee fan. Yeah, it is

00:36:41.289 --> 00:36:44.869
blasphemy. Most of my family is Yankee and Mets

00:36:44.869 --> 00:36:48.869
fans. There you go. Besides my one cousin who's

00:36:48.869 --> 00:36:51.369
a Mets fan and hates the Yankees, and he ended

00:36:51.369 --> 00:36:53.969
up going to school in Massachusetts for a time,

00:36:53.989 --> 00:36:56.269
so he ended up starting to kind of get hooked

00:36:56.269 --> 00:36:59.510
on the Red Sox a little bit. Ah, I know. Out

00:36:59.510 --> 00:37:01.829
of spite, you know. That's a real thing, though,

00:37:01.909 --> 00:37:04.590
Luke. You could be a Yankees fan and root for

00:37:04.590 --> 00:37:07.070
the Mets, you know, like if they're in something.

00:37:07.289 --> 00:37:10.409
You cannot be a Mets fan and root for the Yankees.

00:37:10.429 --> 00:37:13.250
They hate the Yankees fans so much because the

00:37:13.250 --> 00:37:16.309
Mets suck compared to the Yankees. So it's like

00:37:16.309 --> 00:37:19.449
they will never, ever root for the Yankees ever,

00:37:19.570 --> 00:37:21.650
dude. They hate them just as much as Yankees

00:37:21.650 --> 00:37:24.190
fans hate fucking Red Sox. But as a redheaded

00:37:24.190 --> 00:37:27.630
stepsister. Exactly. Exactly. Like the White

00:37:27.630 --> 00:37:30.760
Sox and the Cubs, too, you know. That's right.

00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:35.699
Yes. Especially now. My God, the White Sox are

00:37:35.699 --> 00:37:40.000
awful. You are a baseball fan. Yeah. I mean,

00:37:40.019 --> 00:37:42.460
I'm definitely following it more now, especially

00:37:42.460 --> 00:37:44.780
since I'm a fan of the Tigers and they're getting

00:37:44.780 --> 00:37:48.219
a little bit better. Detroit. Detroit Tigers.

00:37:49.380 --> 00:37:51.599
That brings me back, dude. My grandfather used

00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:56.489
to like them. He was from Michigan, so they,

00:37:56.590 --> 00:37:59.469
thank God, moved out to New Jersey before they

00:37:59.469 --> 00:38:01.670
had kids and had my mother, and that's why I

00:38:01.670 --> 00:38:03.869
got to live in New Jersey. I did not want to

00:38:03.869 --> 00:38:05.969
be growing up in Michigan. Does Nebraska have

00:38:05.969 --> 00:38:10.670
any pro sports teams? No. It's college over here,

00:38:10.730 --> 00:38:13.150
and then where I think the Chiefs are right now,

00:38:13.250 --> 00:38:15.570
you definitely see a lot of Chiefs fans. But,

00:38:15.630 --> 00:38:19.969
I mean, we're in the middle of the Midwest, so...

00:38:20.269 --> 00:38:22.849
I just saw a few days ago someone with the Tigers

00:38:22.849 --> 00:38:26.110
bumper sticker on their car. Interesting. I see

00:38:26.110 --> 00:38:29.010
Lion stuff around here, and then I see Viking

00:38:29.010 --> 00:38:35.409
stuff. So close. All over the place. But definitely

00:38:35.409 --> 00:38:38.150
a lot of Kansas City fans, especially with the

00:38:38.150 --> 00:38:42.050
Chiefs and how dominant they are right now. Are

00:38:42.050 --> 00:38:47.610
there any pro sports in Iowa either? Nope. That's

00:38:47.610 --> 00:38:49.389
right. Nothing in North Dakota, South Dakota,

00:38:49.670 --> 00:38:53.250
Montana. Interesting. I just never thought about

00:38:53.250 --> 00:38:56.170
that, but that's wild. Dude, farmers are all

00:38:56.170 --> 00:38:57.769
tired at the end of the day, bro. They don't

00:38:57.769 --> 00:39:01.329
have time to go to games, man. Come on. They're

00:39:01.329 --> 00:39:03.969
working hard, and then you got to go to bed,

00:39:03.989 --> 00:39:05.869
get ready for the next morning. Four o 'clock

00:39:05.869 --> 00:39:10.789
in the morning, that rooster. Yo, Luke, but please,

00:39:10.889 --> 00:39:13.050
man, take this time. I know you are a big live

00:39:13.050 --> 00:39:15.349
fan. You got any questions for Chad Gracie besides

00:39:15.349 --> 00:39:19.909
his Boston? you got any intricate ones anything

00:39:19.909 --> 00:39:23.409
about music or anything man this is for you if

00:39:23.409 --> 00:39:28.130
not I'll keep going I mean as far as like you've

00:39:28.130 --> 00:39:30.269
probably gotten asked this question a million

00:39:30.269 --> 00:39:32.789
times but as far as like throwing copper and

00:39:32.789 --> 00:39:35.570
like the success that record had did you guys

00:39:35.570 --> 00:39:37.949
have any idea that that record was going to pop

00:39:37.949 --> 00:39:42.130
off as much as it did at the time we were very

00:39:42.130 --> 00:39:44.550
confident in the record but we didn't know it

00:39:44.550 --> 00:39:46.420
was going to explode the way it did. I mean,

00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:48.840
we thought it was going to be, we thought, we

00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:50.360
thought it was going to be successful. Maybe

00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:52.840
sell a million, maybe 2 million. That was our,

00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.920
our hopes and hopes and dream for it. I've got

00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:58.280
a match up to the previous record, right? Sort

00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:01.139
of that was previous. Well, mental jewelry hadn't

00:40:01.139 --> 00:40:03.340
even gone gold on our, you know, when we put

00:40:03.340 --> 00:40:05.599
it out, it went gold and then platinum after

00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:09.719
throwing copper got so big. Right. But we had,

00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:12.019
you know, we had some good success on MTV with

00:40:12.019 --> 00:40:14.739
operation spirit and then paint lesson Riverside.

00:40:15.630 --> 00:40:18.070
for mental jewelry so that kind of laid the foundation

00:40:18.070 --> 00:40:21.949
for for throwing copper yeah um but yeah i mean

00:40:21.949 --> 00:40:26.010
we just it was funny because we like are the

00:40:26.010 --> 00:40:29.010
gut so there's we got signed to a label called

00:40:29.010 --> 00:40:31.469
radioactive had a joint venture with mca universal

00:40:31.469 --> 00:40:34.110
right and the guy that ran radioactive was named

00:40:34.110 --> 00:40:38.590
gary kerfirst and gary gary's son josh is was

00:40:38.590 --> 00:40:40.869
a big fan of ours and he's he's still working

00:40:40.869 --> 00:40:44.960
at wme's like part of their uh festival booking

00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:46.860
crew so like he's he's in the music industry

00:40:46.860 --> 00:40:49.760
which is great i love josh but so gary was like

00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:52.460
a big big time manager in the music business

00:40:52.460 --> 00:40:54.579
he managed blondie and the talking heads and

00:40:54.579 --> 00:40:57.000
jane's addiction and ramones like he managed

00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:01.320
lots of band like big bands and then uh in the

00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:03.179
90s he started his own label which we got signed

00:41:03.179 --> 00:41:05.780
to obviously and that's how the jerry harris

00:41:05.780 --> 00:41:08.739
connection came to produce you know mental jewelry

00:41:08.739 --> 00:41:13.329
throwing copper and distance to hear yeah um

00:41:13.329 --> 00:41:17.170
but so we put out selling drama first and that

00:41:17.170 --> 00:41:19.489
did pretty well and then we put out i alone that

00:41:19.489 --> 00:41:22.449
did pretty well so we were building nicely and

00:41:22.449 --> 00:41:24.469
at one point gary's like there's no fucking way

00:41:24.469 --> 00:41:25.949
over my dead body we're putting out lightning

00:41:25.949 --> 00:41:28.710
crashes he's like it doesn't hit the radio the

00:41:28.710 --> 00:41:31.070
five and a half minutes long yeah all this yeah

00:41:31.070 --> 00:41:35.309
all these excuses but the but the guys run and

00:41:35.309 --> 00:41:38.489
with grunts still like i think at least semi

00:41:38.489 --> 00:41:40.309
-popular at the time it was starting to kind

00:41:40.309 --> 00:41:42.429
of wane off a little bit and become post -grunge

00:41:42.429 --> 00:41:44.650
a little bit but a lot of those grunge artists

00:41:44.650 --> 00:41:46.989
even like pearl jam for instance like they put

00:41:46.989 --> 00:41:50.849
out some heavy songs or more rocking songs and

00:41:50.849 --> 00:41:54.070
then they put out like black or jeremy or something

00:41:54.070 --> 00:41:56.690
right so and even smashing pumpkins kind of did

00:41:56.690 --> 00:41:58.250
like there was kind of like this thing going

00:41:58.250 --> 00:42:00.550
on where people put out like a strong rocking

00:42:00.550 --> 00:42:02.929
song first and then maybe the second one is kind

00:42:02.929 --> 00:42:05.429
of rocking the third one would be sort of a ballady

00:42:05.849 --> 00:42:07.869
And it kind of continued to be that way too.

00:42:07.889 --> 00:42:10.789
That kind of continued to be like the way of

00:42:10.789 --> 00:42:12.969
like, especially in the rock scene, like with

00:42:12.969 --> 00:42:17.889
for probably 10 years after that. Yeah. Cause

00:42:17.889 --> 00:42:20.010
you know, they put out the rocking song for the

00:42:20.010 --> 00:42:21.650
dudes and then they put out the ballad for the

00:42:21.650 --> 00:42:26.349
chicks. Yeah. Bring them all in. So, so we, we

00:42:26.349 --> 00:42:30.670
had this, so right before, uh, lightning crashes

00:42:30.670 --> 00:42:33.750
came out, we had this big plan. This, we were,

00:42:33.809 --> 00:42:35.909
went to LA and we're, going with the universal

00:42:35.909 --> 00:42:38.789
music MCA at the time. And we're playing this

00:42:38.789 --> 00:42:41.710
like showcase for the, the big wigs there, all

00:42:41.710 --> 00:42:45.590
the, all the big guys there. And, and we're doing

00:42:45.590 --> 00:42:47.090
like a little acoustic showcase, have a meet

00:42:47.090 --> 00:42:48.869
and greet with everybody. And because we're getting

00:42:48.869 --> 00:42:51.230
ready to put out lightning crashes over Gary's

00:42:51.230 --> 00:42:55.570
dead body. And, and the president of MCA, we're

00:42:55.570 --> 00:42:57.650
just the four of us are now we played, played

00:42:57.650 --> 00:42:59.070
an acoustic thing. We're just kind of hanging

00:42:59.070 --> 00:43:00.190
out. People are talking to us. We're hanging

00:43:00.190 --> 00:43:02.469
out this one table and the head of MCA comes

00:43:02.469 --> 00:43:06.679
over and he goes, Hey boys. good news you're

00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:08.679
all gonna be buying houses this year we're like

00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:12.960
what are you talking about like okay sure buddy

00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:15.820
whatever he's like yeah when this song comes

00:43:15.820 --> 00:43:17.739
out everyone's gonna be buying houses and we're

00:43:17.739 --> 00:43:20.239
just like whatever dude okay sure thanks we've

00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:23.519
heard many promises before but he was spot on

00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:26.800
because we had no idea and it was a fucking wild

00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:31.829
ride yes Chad, so from Mental Jewelry to Throwing

00:43:31.829 --> 00:43:34.570
Copper, now, as you could, of course, tell that

00:43:34.570 --> 00:43:37.889
it's live in the same band, there is a big dramatic,

00:43:38.090 --> 00:43:42.610
like, change in almost the way you guys made

00:43:42.610 --> 00:43:45.989
songs. Because, like, Throwing Copper, I mean,

00:43:46.010 --> 00:43:49.289
Mental Jewelry seemed to be, like, heavy bass

00:43:49.289 --> 00:43:52.070
lines and, like, acoustic guitar and stuff like

00:43:52.070 --> 00:43:54.510
that. And then Throwing Copper comes to, like,

00:43:54.510 --> 00:43:57.389
a more, you know, electric guitar sound and stuff.

00:43:57.429 --> 00:44:00.690
Was this? conscious decision or is this like

00:44:00.690 --> 00:44:03.369
like how did that come about from those kind

00:44:03.369 --> 00:44:06.250
of sonic sounds that you know different differentiating

00:44:06.250 --> 00:44:08.849
yeah like did it happen more like during the

00:44:08.849 --> 00:44:11.570
writing of the record or was it i mean it that

00:44:11.570 --> 00:44:14.010
tends to be the case i think right you usually

00:44:14.010 --> 00:44:15.510
don't go into a record saying we're going to

00:44:15.510 --> 00:44:17.449
do this because whenever an artist does that

00:44:17.449 --> 00:44:20.489
it usually doesn't turn out yeah doesn't work

00:44:20.489 --> 00:44:24.269
well we were touring a lot for mental jewelry

00:44:24.269 --> 00:44:27.949
and we kept getting heavier and louder ah like

00:44:27.949 --> 00:44:30.429
and when i say every i mean more just more just

00:44:30.429 --> 00:44:32.610
chad would distort his guitar more he started

00:44:32.610 --> 00:44:35.210
getting really into amps and fucking gear during

00:44:35.210 --> 00:44:37.050
that tour because he could now afford to buy

00:44:37.050 --> 00:44:40.949
some stuff and uh so yeah the guitars just naturally

00:44:40.949 --> 00:44:43.710
over the course of touring for mental jewelry

00:44:43.710 --> 00:44:45.289
started getting more distorted a little more

00:44:45.289 --> 00:44:50.369
heavy and then uh and then you not that we we

00:44:50.369 --> 00:44:52.110
were paying attention i guess we were sort of

00:44:52.539 --> 00:44:54.920
um inspired by what was happening with Pearl

00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:58.179
Jam and Soundgarden Nirvana just all that stuff

00:44:58.179 --> 00:45:01.099
it was it was heavier and so I don't know we

00:45:01.099 --> 00:45:04.119
just naturally we just started coming up with

00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:07.539
those kind of songs okay I mean Chad came with

00:45:07.539 --> 00:45:09.739
a bunch of good guitar parts and that became

00:45:09.739 --> 00:45:12.679
songs and Ed came in with a couple Ed came in

00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:15.460
with I Alone that was pretty cool and then Patrick

00:45:15.460 --> 00:45:19.559
Patrick was Like a lot, there's at least those

00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:21.659
for a while, there seemed to be like one or two

00:45:21.659 --> 00:45:23.420
songs that Patrick could write on base and we'd

00:45:23.420 --> 00:45:25.980
play something to it. But it just kind of naturally

00:45:25.980 --> 00:45:27.960
happened just from touring and playing the songs.

00:45:28.099 --> 00:45:30.179
And we, I think we were, there's a couple of

00:45:30.179 --> 00:45:32.519
songs that we were playing during the mental

00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:34.500
jewelry that became part of throwing copper as

00:45:34.500 --> 00:45:37.840
well. Yeah. It's like pillar of David thing could

00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:39.800
have been something Patrick came up with because

00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:43.159
that's a heavy baseline. And it almost like is

00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:45.519
the melody of the song doom. Doom. Yeah. That

00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:48.940
was. killer davidson and tbd were both written

00:45:48.940 --> 00:45:52.300
from patrick's bass parts fuck yeah dude thank

00:45:52.300 --> 00:45:55.179
patrick uh you know i alone you're a little young

00:45:55.179 --> 00:45:58.099
for this luke but uh i alone back in the day

00:45:58.099 --> 00:46:01.360
it was a big stripper strip club song dude they

00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:05.639
would yeah because it starts off you know kind

00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:07.460
of slow and stuff and then it gets to really

00:46:07.460 --> 00:46:09.239
rocking that's that's when the clothes would

00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:12.059
come off and the booty shaking in your face and

00:46:12.059 --> 00:46:15.090
all that stuff uh so it was big on the strip

00:46:15.090 --> 00:46:16.869
circuit which was now if they're dancing and

00:46:16.869 --> 00:46:18.610
throwing copper or eye alone you don't want to

00:46:18.610 --> 00:46:23.690
see them that's right you see britney spears

00:46:23.690 --> 00:46:26.769
doing interpretive dance to lightning crashes

00:46:26.769 --> 00:46:28.949
bro yeah i posted on my story it was hilarious

00:46:28.949 --> 00:46:34.550
really yeah watch it yeah i mean funny she's

00:46:34.550 --> 00:46:38.570
like dancing way too fast but she's like miming

00:46:38.570 --> 00:46:41.050
stuff out it's the fucking weirdest thing but

00:46:41.050 --> 00:46:43.610
cool men She's doing all these kind of spastic

00:46:43.610 --> 00:46:45.449
moves and shit. I mean, if you've seen any of

00:46:45.449 --> 00:46:47.090
her videos where she's dancing to songs, it's

00:46:47.090 --> 00:46:48.610
all kind of the same thing. It's just funny.

00:46:48.690 --> 00:46:51.150
She's like, yes, covering her eyes and fucking

00:46:51.150 --> 00:46:52.710
dancing around. You're like, what the hell's

00:46:52.710 --> 00:46:54.170
going on? Until lightning crashes. You're like,

00:46:54.250 --> 00:47:01.289
okay. Like, the angel closes her eyes. Yes. But

00:47:01.289 --> 00:47:03.110
it's so fast. Like, the movement's so fast, it

00:47:03.110 --> 00:47:04.849
almost seems like, because she is doing some

00:47:04.849 --> 00:47:06.510
interpreted stuff where, like, you can tell she's

00:47:06.510 --> 00:47:08.130
going with the lyrics, but the body movement

00:47:08.130 --> 00:47:11.090
is so much faster than the song. I'm like. what

00:47:11.090 --> 00:47:13.550
is this bitch on? Cause it's not the same planet

00:47:13.550 --> 00:47:16.469
and song that she's dancing to, which is who

00:47:16.469 --> 00:47:18.630
knows what's going on with that whole thing.

00:47:18.690 --> 00:47:22.150
I know that was like the big drama for a year,

00:47:22.230 --> 00:47:25.130
at least the whole Britney Spears, uh, whatever

00:47:25.130 --> 00:47:28.030
it was. Oh, yeah. Were you, I don't think you

00:47:28.030 --> 00:47:29.630
were born when she shaved her head and fucking

00:47:29.630 --> 00:47:32.570
public and shit. That was wild. I mean, I was

00:47:32.570 --> 00:47:34.989
like five, so I don't know. You're five. Okay.

00:47:35.110 --> 00:47:37.949
I don't remember it ever happened to like, what?

00:47:37.989 --> 00:47:41.889
So you were at 2000. It was like 2000. And then

00:47:41.889 --> 00:47:43.869
that happened like in 2007. I thought that was

00:47:43.869 --> 00:47:47.309
like later on, like when she came back. Three,

00:47:47.409 --> 00:47:51.530
2004. Yeah, but she was nice and she fucking

00:47:51.530 --> 00:47:53.630
shaved her head. And then there's video of her

00:47:53.630 --> 00:47:56.070
like taking an umbrella and smashing it through

00:47:56.070 --> 00:47:58.630
a paparazzi's window, like with that shaved head.

00:48:00.050 --> 00:48:04.530
So, I mean, poor lady fucking 100 percent. The

00:48:04.530 --> 00:48:06.849
amount of pressures that people put on her is

00:48:06.849 --> 00:48:10.460
fucking wild. And then conservatorship for how

00:48:10.460 --> 00:48:13.659
long, dude? Right. Yeah. Fuck, man. And they

00:48:13.659 --> 00:48:15.019
control. That's why she's doing interpretive

00:48:15.019 --> 00:48:17.019
dance fucking cameras because she's happy. She

00:48:17.019 --> 00:48:19.219
got her fucking money back. Controls her life

00:48:19.219 --> 00:48:23.380
again. Yeah. As she should. Yeah. But she seems

00:48:23.380 --> 00:48:24.760
like she's a recluse. Like, I don't even think

00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:26.340
she leaves that house, really. It's just she

00:48:26.340 --> 00:48:30.179
dances in it 24 hours a day and makes wacky videos.

00:48:30.340 --> 00:48:33.059
But thank you, Brittany, because you're scantily

00:48:33.059 --> 00:48:36.320
clad. And, you know, I could see pretty much

00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:39.820
everything and realize that you are cuckoo. When's

00:48:39.820 --> 00:48:43.420
the last time she toured? Not since her Vegas

00:48:43.420 --> 00:48:45.840
residency, dude. Like, I don't think she got

00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:47.900
her conservative shit back because she'd done

00:48:47.900 --> 00:48:51.880
anything. Because they made her do that. Like,

00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:54.099
they made her go and make money. And then once

00:48:54.099 --> 00:48:58.019
she got her stuff taken over, she hasn't done

00:48:58.019 --> 00:49:00.039
shit. I think she just got burnt out and just

00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:02.739
doing her now. Oh, wow. Dude, when she comes

00:49:02.739 --> 00:49:05.639
back, that'll be fucking huge. Oh, yeah. When

00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:12.199
she does a tour again? Watch out. If she does

00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:14.920
another... She's still semi -young enough to

00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:18.179
do it. Yeah, I know. But just like with, I don't

00:49:18.179 --> 00:49:20.039
know, all the drama surrounding her. I mean,

00:49:20.059 --> 00:49:22.099
who knows? We've seen this happen before with

00:49:22.099 --> 00:49:24.539
a number of different artists that... They get

00:49:24.539 --> 00:49:26.739
to a certain age, they have a lot of, you know,

00:49:26.739 --> 00:49:29.480
issues, whether it's, you know, mental health

00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:31.980
or some other type of thing. I mean, look at

00:49:31.980 --> 00:49:36.420
Mike Jackson when he, you know. Yeah. Well, I'll

00:49:36.420 --> 00:49:39.559
say this. If they can make the public like Kamala,

00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:43.780
they can bring back Britney. True. True. Yo,

00:49:43.820 --> 00:49:45.719
Luke, how'd you get into all these cool 90 bands,

00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:49.199
dude, being born in 2002? Was this from your

00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:51.380
parents? Was this something you flocked to? How

00:49:51.380 --> 00:49:54.139
did this go about? partly yeah i mean it definitely

00:49:54.139 --> 00:49:58.039
had a definitely had an influence on me younger

00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:01.239
because just like with uh the cds that they had

00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:04.239
i mean they definitely had a few live cds and

00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:10.639
they had breed and lincoln park and uh fuel and

00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:13.719
i mean tons of bands my dad was really big into

00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:17.300
u2 and rem so i got into that that's that's what

00:50:17.300 --> 00:50:21.420
i'm into yeah I've heard that the band is very

00:50:21.420 --> 00:50:25.199
inspired by U2 and R .E .M. Yeah, both of those,

00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:28.320
yes, definitely. We're big fans. I remember when

00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:31.059
I saw you guys in 2019, too. I think you covered

00:50:31.059 --> 00:50:33.900
Losing My Religion, pretty sure. We did, yes,

00:50:34.099 --> 00:50:36.380
for the whole tour with Bush. Yes, we did. That

00:50:36.380 --> 00:50:38.539
was really cool. Did you see us in Council Bluffs?

00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:42.579
That was still when I was living in Virginia,

00:50:42.659 --> 00:50:46.219
so it was in Virginia. It was like this festival,

00:50:46.420 --> 00:50:49.349
like Labor Day. festival weekend type of thing

00:50:49.349 --> 00:50:52.010
so i think it was on the beach right yep yeah

00:50:52.010 --> 00:50:54.110
and bush didn't play with us on that step no

00:50:54.110 --> 00:50:56.809
no i think it was dashboard confessional that

00:50:56.809 --> 00:50:58.590
was opening up and then a couple days before

00:50:58.590 --> 00:51:01.230
that i think it might have been 311 that was

00:51:01.230 --> 00:51:05.510
playing dashboard and live bro that's a fucking

00:51:05.510 --> 00:51:07.889
really cool show man i like chris carraba and

00:51:07.889 --> 00:51:11.210
dashboard confessional dude yeah they're a good

00:51:11.210 --> 00:51:13.210
band they're good i didn't even know it was them

00:51:13.210 --> 00:51:16.789
at like It took me until like after the show

00:51:16.789 --> 00:51:19.090
to realize like, oh, that was Das Confessional.

00:51:19.250 --> 00:51:21.989
I didn't know because I only knew like a couple

00:51:21.989 --> 00:51:24.929
of their songs and actually like saw what they

00:51:24.929 --> 00:51:28.190
look like. You know, it was one of those. I wouldn't

00:51:28.190 --> 00:51:30.510
I wouldn't know what they look like. Chad, you

00:51:30.510 --> 00:51:32.210
should really check. Do you know their music

00:51:32.210 --> 00:51:35.289
besides like their radio stuff? Like, no, really

00:51:35.289 --> 00:51:40.769
get their MTV unplugged, which is like a phenomenal

00:51:40.769 --> 00:51:42.889
thing. And I didn't even know they had an MTV

00:51:42.889 --> 00:51:46.440
unplugged. Wow, dude. it's fucking legendary

00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:49.460
man i mean he's a little whiny person i guess

00:51:49.460 --> 00:51:52.400
he like defined the emo genre like emotional

00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:56.139
music because he's really emotional uh while

00:51:56.139 --> 00:51:59.719
he sings but i fucking love that man and as far

00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.400
as i know i don't i think dashboard confessional

00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:05.639
is just him because he's toured solo where it's

00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:07.699
just him and a guitar and it's dashboard confessional

00:52:07.699 --> 00:52:10.980
tour and then i think he's had multiple people

00:52:10.980 --> 00:52:14.239
in the band so i don't know if it's you know

00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:17.199
it's like that other band uh secondhand serenade

00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:20.219
came out a few years after that i'm pretty sure

00:52:20.219 --> 00:52:23.860
or like you know mid 2000s it was the same thing

00:52:23.860 --> 00:52:27.719
yeah kind of makes sense he uh but yeah he's

00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:29.260
a cool dude and yeah chad you definitely like

00:52:29.260 --> 00:52:32.119
it man it's it's cool shit um but and the radio

00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:33.960
stuff gets a little poppy but some of their other

00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:37.000
stuff i'm just brings me back dude If you're

00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:40.019
ever heartbroken over a girl or, you know, you

00:52:40.019 --> 00:52:42.119
want to feel something, put on that thing. That

00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:44.000
dude sounds like he's been through the ringer

00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:47.539
with chicks, man. It's like the opposite of Taylor

00:52:47.539 --> 00:52:55.039
Swift. Got it. Yes, 100%. 100%. So, Luke, do

00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:57.260
you promote any of your social media and stuff

00:52:57.260 --> 00:53:00.500
like that? Or is it just so audiences can check

00:53:00.500 --> 00:53:03.260
out your stuff and all that jazz? Yeah. I mean,

00:53:03.260 --> 00:53:06.400
on Instagram, it's Luke dot S underscore hybrid.

00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:09.780
That's where I post like all my covers and just

00:53:09.780 --> 00:53:12.619
music stuff in general and, you know, stuff on

00:53:12.619 --> 00:53:16.340
my story and, and all that. I'm talking about

00:53:16.340 --> 00:53:19.159
bands that I'm into, you know, that type of thing.

00:53:20.059 --> 00:53:22.719
Dot S underscore hybrid. I'm making that my new

00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:30.389
password, by the way. um and i also got a youtube

00:53:30.389 --> 00:53:32.949
which i don't use too much i kind of just use

00:53:32.949 --> 00:53:36.730
it as like a secondary thing um with this it's

00:53:36.730 --> 00:53:39.550
the same username just to make things easier

00:53:39.550 --> 00:53:44.650
yeah that's smart by the way yeah i think i might

00:53:44.650 --> 00:53:46.949
even have like a tiktok too but i know i haven't

00:53:46.949 --> 00:53:52.500
used that in so long It was Dan from Hoobastank

00:53:52.500 --> 00:53:54.179
that actually was saying, you should, you know,

00:53:54.179 --> 00:53:56.340
get a TikTok, you know, because I think you'd

00:53:56.340 --> 00:53:58.920
be into it. So I tried it for a time. It was

00:53:58.920 --> 00:54:01.619
just like, eh, it's not my thing. The guys in

00:54:01.619 --> 00:54:04.519
Hoobastank? What was that? Do you know the guys

00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:08.380
in Hoobastank? I do. Okay, so the lead singer

00:54:08.380 --> 00:54:11.780
is the brother of the security guard that...

00:54:12.489 --> 00:54:15.030
was with us and then with creed okay yeah that's

00:54:15.030 --> 00:54:17.670
right yeah i i forgot that doug's brother is

00:54:17.670 --> 00:54:19.909
a big time security guard he's done things like

00:54:19.909 --> 00:54:22.489
metallica right oh he owns a company now he has

00:54:22.489 --> 00:54:25.449
like 20 tours out with all the security guards

00:54:25.449 --> 00:54:27.929
so yeah tom is doing very well he's fucking and

00:54:27.929 --> 00:54:31.090
he's a great guy and has lots of amazing stories

00:54:31.090 --> 00:54:35.190
it's funny because like him and doug like doug

00:54:35.190 --> 00:54:39.130
is doug is not even that short but like him compared

00:54:39.130 --> 00:54:41.590
to what is his name oh yeah um yeah he's huge

00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:46.000
It's so funny to think that those guys are brothers

00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:48.920
because they I mean, they don't really, you know,

00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:51.239
like there's not the similarity there. You know,

00:54:51.260 --> 00:54:54.860
did you ever see Tom's drawings? He does these

00:54:54.860 --> 00:54:58.099
pencil drawings that are amazing. I have to check

00:54:58.099 --> 00:55:00.739
it out. Does he have an Instagram? Yeah, Tom

00:55:00.739 --> 00:55:03.079
does. I'll send it to you when I find it and

00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:06.980
send it to you a DM. But so so you got Doug leads

00:55:06.980 --> 00:55:10.110
every Hoover stack, obviously, Tom, who is. security

00:55:10.110 --> 00:55:12.050
guard to the stars of the world but also an amazing

00:55:12.050 --> 00:55:14.949
artist and then their other brother which i can't

00:55:14.949 --> 00:55:17.789
remember his name was the head designer for bmw

00:55:17.789 --> 00:55:21.929
motorcycles forever wow in germany and i think

00:55:21.929 --> 00:55:23.789
they have another brother who's kind of artistic

00:55:23.789 --> 00:55:26.050
too but their family's obviously very uh talented

00:55:26.050 --> 00:55:31.090
overall makes and all great guys too me and my

00:55:31.090 --> 00:55:33.150
brother is failures bro they got all that shit

00:55:33.150 --> 00:55:36.099
going on between the four of them Mm -hmm. Yo,

00:55:36.179 --> 00:55:37.940
you got to get this security guard on here. I

00:55:37.940 --> 00:55:39.719
mean, he probably can't mention stuff by name.

00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:42.659
I've asked him already. He's so busy right now.

00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:45.860
Yeah, I bet. So we're going to talk again. But,

00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:47.760
yeah, like that's how I know he has 20 tours

00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:49.579
out right now because I just hit him up about

00:55:49.579 --> 00:55:51.980
two weeks ago. And he's like, I'd love to do

00:55:51.980 --> 00:55:53.699
that, but I'm just busy as hell right now. Like,

00:55:53.739 --> 00:55:55.800
I get it. That's fine. He moved to Austin. He

00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:58.059
was living in L .A., moved to Austin. Lucky him.

00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:02.960
Perfect. California. Yeah, man. Before the shit,

00:56:03.019 --> 00:56:04.960
well, the shit already hit the fan, but before

00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:07.579
it hits the fan even more and splatters all over

00:56:07.579 --> 00:56:10.400
the place and you get hit. But anyway, yeah,

00:56:10.460 --> 00:56:12.739
it's cool. It's cool you know guys at Uberstack.

00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:15.780
Yeah, those guys are really cool. And Dan actually

00:56:15.780 --> 00:56:18.780
told me a couple years ago that the first big

00:56:18.780 --> 00:56:24.179
tour that they went on was with you guys. I remember

00:56:24.179 --> 00:56:28.300
that. That was really cool. I forget where we

00:56:28.300 --> 00:56:30.309
toured with them or what. But yeah, they did

00:56:30.309 --> 00:56:32.190
open us for us for a little bit. That's what

00:56:32.190 --> 00:56:35.110
was cool about live dude. You guys had a lot

00:56:35.110 --> 00:56:37.909
of cool bands opening up for you that were either

00:56:37.909 --> 00:56:41.849
became national acts afterwards, or even sometimes

00:56:41.849 --> 00:56:45.150
you would go to an area and have an opener, but

00:56:45.150 --> 00:56:48.170
then you would hire like a local town opener

00:56:48.170 --> 00:56:50.269
to like open for you guys because you were like

00:56:50.269 --> 00:56:52.650
supporting local music and getting names up.

00:56:52.869 --> 00:56:54.929
And one that sticks in my mind is the alternate

00:56:54.929 --> 00:56:58.329
routes, dude. uh i saw them open for you guys

00:56:58.329 --> 00:57:01.130
at uh starland ballroom new jersey and then became

00:57:01.130 --> 00:57:03.190
a big fan of theirs and went and saw them on

00:57:03.190 --> 00:57:05.769
some solo shows and shit and they've they got

00:57:05.769 --> 00:57:09.170
music on like you know laguna beach and shows

00:57:09.170 --> 00:57:12.090
and shit so you took them from a local whatever

00:57:12.090 --> 00:57:14.949
made them into something that's cool yeah patrick

00:57:14.949 --> 00:57:18.389
would usually listen to the demos ah forever

00:57:18.389 --> 00:57:21.869
he would he would mostly be responsible for picking

00:57:21.869 --> 00:57:24.849
openers that's all if it you know if it wasn't

00:57:24.849 --> 00:57:27.440
like a a big bill where there was we were doing

00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:29.139
like a co -headline or something but patrick

00:57:29.139 --> 00:57:32.860
would a lot of time to listen to the demos do

00:57:32.860 --> 00:57:34.820
you remember how many dates you guys did with

00:57:34.820 --> 00:57:39.219
uh with uva stank no i can't i that's what i

00:57:39.219 --> 00:57:40.579
was just saying earlier i was trying to remember

00:57:40.579 --> 00:57:43.199
back when what tour they did with us and where

00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:49.480
we were but it was a while ago yeah i think it

00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:52.860
was probably like 2001 ish because i know the

00:57:52.860 --> 00:57:56.500
debut record came out and i think november november

00:57:56.500 --> 00:57:59.880
20th 2001 i think when their debut came out so

00:57:59.880 --> 00:58:02.039
it was probably around that time i was gonna

00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:03.800
say it could have been like a tertiary market

00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:06.079
tour we did or something because we we toured

00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:09.599
most of 2001 with counting crows yeah or no that

00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:13.840
was 2000 that was 2000 sorry 2001 was ah fuck

00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:16.980
i don't know yeah 99 to 2000 i believe the crows

00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:21.199
tour started uh i saw you 2000 at pnc with them

00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:25.260
uh that's when chad and so mr chad gracie and

00:58:25.260 --> 00:58:27.440
then adam durrett's from uh county grows i think

00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:29.179
we're single and they were selling some royal

00:58:29.179 --> 00:58:32.400
oh yes we were both single yeah man we were having

00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:34.679
a good time on that tour what a crew that is

00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:37.969
huh luke you you weren't even a thought in your

00:58:37.969 --> 00:58:40.349
daddy's eyes or some shit at that point that

00:58:40.349 --> 00:58:43.849
was two or three years before i was even in the

00:58:43.849 --> 00:58:47.690
picture pretty cool pretty pretty cool uh luke

00:58:47.690 --> 00:58:53.949
here's a cool thing i saw live in 1998 so this

00:58:53.949 --> 00:58:56.949
is at like their height man you know throwing

00:58:56.949 --> 00:58:59.329
copper throwing copper was already fucking out

00:58:59.329 --> 00:59:02.369
number one on the chart 52 weeks then became

00:59:02.369 --> 00:59:05.789
number one Then Secret Samadhi came out, debuted

00:59:05.789 --> 00:59:10.329
at number one. And so they were huge. But they

00:59:10.329 --> 00:59:14.110
did, like, only a handful of dates in 1998. I

00:59:14.110 --> 00:59:16.389
guess they were gearing up, writing music for

00:59:16.389 --> 00:59:18.769
Distance to Here and maybe just taking some time

00:59:18.769 --> 00:59:20.469
off because they've been, like, nonstop touring

00:59:20.469 --> 00:59:24.889
since, like, 93. And they did this show at the

00:59:24.889 --> 00:59:28.670
Stone Pony in 1998. And what? Maybe that holds,

00:59:28.730 --> 00:59:31.590
like, 300 people or something, Chad? By the inside,

00:59:31.730 --> 00:59:34.400
yeah. Small. Yeah. Yeah. And so they kind of

00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:35.880
just like put out these couple of dates and like

00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:37.860
just released them randomly a couple of days

00:59:37.860 --> 00:59:39.679
before. And if you kind of heard about them,

00:59:39.699 --> 00:59:41.579
you can get tickets. Otherwise, you know, they

00:59:41.579 --> 00:59:43.280
were kind of like that. So I got to see them

00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:46.300
like when they were fucking ginormous stars and

00:59:46.300 --> 00:59:48.460
their music was crazy in this little ass venue.

00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:52.800
And they only played like four songs that I knew,

00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:55.179
maybe like song, the drama, I alone, and then

00:59:55.179 --> 00:59:58.460
like two others, the rest were all. stuff that

00:59:58.460 --> 01:00:00.960
was about to be released on the distance to here

01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:03.380
or stuff that didn't make it to the distance

01:00:03.380 --> 01:00:07.860
to here. Some bangers were not released on the

01:00:07.860 --> 01:00:10.179
distance here. One of my favorite albums, dude,

01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:12.340
it's like between that and throwing copper. I'm

01:00:12.340 --> 01:00:14.099
not sure which one I like the best because they're

01:00:14.099 --> 01:00:18.900
just both really good. But it was crazy, dude.

01:00:18.980 --> 01:00:21.760
It was so cool to fucking see. And I was like,

01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:24.219
wow. Like they played a song called change that

01:00:24.219 --> 01:00:26.820
if you don't know about it, it's fucking killer,

01:00:26.860 --> 01:00:30.289
man. It's killer. I haven't, I haven't, I don't

01:00:30.289 --> 01:00:32.269
think I've heard that song before. Change. Don't

01:00:32.269 --> 01:00:35.789
wait. What else? Change. Don't wait. Deeper.

01:00:36.469 --> 01:00:39.570
Yeah. Deeper. Yeah. Deeper, bro. I should have

01:00:39.570 --> 01:00:41.969
made the record. A hundred percent. There's a

01:00:41.969 --> 01:00:44.730
couple more of that. But just banging, dude.

01:00:44.769 --> 01:00:46.289
And it was cool to see because every time, you

01:00:46.289 --> 01:00:48.250
know, not every time, but other times I saw a

01:00:48.250 --> 01:00:50.369
lot before it was like all shit that I knew,

01:00:50.469 --> 01:00:53.250
you know, it was like, and this to see and like

01:00:53.250 --> 01:00:55.710
immediately hear the songs and be like. This

01:00:55.710 --> 01:00:57.489
is a fucking great song. Oh, you played overcome

01:00:57.489 --> 01:01:00.090
that night, which didn't get to the distance,

01:01:00.190 --> 01:01:05.550
but got on the, um, uh, five, five. That's right.

01:01:05.650 --> 01:01:08.429
Yeah. I didn't even know overcome was written

01:01:08.429 --> 01:01:12.170
that long ago before that distance. Yeah. It

01:01:12.170 --> 01:01:14.590
was a full band version then we had, and we recorded

01:01:14.590 --> 01:01:17.369
it with a full band version then decided to just

01:01:17.369 --> 01:01:21.400
have the piano. Yeah. Yeah. And when it came

01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:24.260
out, because it came out whenever I think it

01:01:24.260 --> 01:01:26.920
was 2001, when five came out, I'm not sure, but

01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:30.840
it was right around 9 -11. They released Overcome

01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:34.179
like on the radio. They had like all shit playing

01:01:34.179 --> 01:01:36.579
in the background of like news reports and stuff.

01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:40.719
And it seemed like it was written specifically

01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:45.480
for that moment because the America. Well, the

01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:48.059
world, but especially America, really was overcome

01:01:48.059 --> 01:01:50.659
with fucking emotions and fucking everything

01:01:50.659 --> 01:01:53.000
that happened. So it seemed like it was specifically

01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:54.559
written for that, and it was written a couple

01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:57.500
years earlier, which is crazy. Yeah, 5 came out

01:01:57.500 --> 01:02:03.559
a week after 9 -11. And, yeah, they just, VH1,

01:02:03.639 --> 01:02:06.460
like, just grabbed that song and made it, kind

01:02:06.460 --> 01:02:08.619
of put that video together that showed all the

01:02:08.619 --> 01:02:10.860
footage from 9 -11, and it kind of became the

01:02:10.860 --> 01:02:14.559
song for 9 -11 for a while. It was wild. It was

01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:17.760
wild. Yeah. We're like, damn. And we're like,

01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:19.480
well, and we went to the rec company. We're like,

01:02:19.579 --> 01:02:21.619
hey, let's put this out as an official single.

01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:25.159
We'll donate the proceeds to 9 -11 fund or whatever.

01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:26.579
And the rec company's like, nah, we're not going

01:02:26.579 --> 01:02:29.800
to do that. Like, stupid. Buckle up. Right. How

01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:33.079
dumb, dude. Like, that is such a stupid fucking

01:02:33.079 --> 01:02:36.460
move. Like, that was so in everybody's face.

01:02:36.539 --> 01:02:41.079
You couldn't turn on VH1 or the radio, dude,

01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:43.460
without hearing that. with the clips playing

01:02:43.460 --> 01:02:45.400
in the background. Like it was fucking all over

01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:48.559
the place, but yeah, that was really dumb. But

01:02:48.559 --> 01:02:50.940
Luke, you know, we do this, my man. We always

01:02:50.940 --> 01:02:53.260
leave the audience wanting more from our guests.

01:02:53.260 --> 01:02:55.260
We could have you on in the future, but is there

01:02:55.260 --> 01:02:59.940
anything else you want to say? Ask, make a, make

01:02:59.940 --> 01:03:03.800
a statement of any sorts before we get you, get

01:03:03.800 --> 01:03:07.559
you going. You have a manifesto you want to put

01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:14.820
out there? I did want to ask about the two Woodstocks

01:03:14.820 --> 01:03:16.300
that you guys played, because I know you played

01:03:16.300 --> 01:03:20.280
both Woodstock 94 and Woodstock 99. I know Woodstock

01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:24.920
99 turned into kind of a shit show of sorts.

01:03:25.380 --> 01:03:29.519
Yeah. We played on the Friday, so we missed all

01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:31.920
the shenanigans. We got out of there before.

01:03:32.099 --> 01:03:34.460
I think Bush went on last on Friday night, and

01:03:34.460 --> 01:03:36.480
shit started to get a little wonky then, but

01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:38.260
we were way out of there. That was actually my

01:03:38.260 --> 01:03:40.199
birthday, the 23rd, when we played that, July

01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:43.699
23rd. Oh, shit. The first one was fucking cool,

01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:45.500
man. Well, a lot of them were cool to do, but

01:03:45.500 --> 01:03:47.039
the first one was really cool. It was the second

01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:52.659
one. The original and then the first non -original

01:03:52.659 --> 01:03:57.179
one. But yeah, Woodstock 94 was amazing. It was

01:03:57.179 --> 01:03:58.900
the biggest crowd we'd ever played in front of

01:03:58.900 --> 01:04:03.559
to date. 300 ,000. It was a rotating stage, so

01:04:03.559 --> 01:04:05.380
they set us up and we rotated it out around.

01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:07.780
So you're just kind of riding this rotation,

01:04:07.980 --> 01:04:11.400
rotating around. It's kind of slow, and you're

01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:13.440
just sitting there going, holy shit, there's

01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:17.360
a lot of people. Yeah, man. It's amazing. So

01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:21.179
it was fun. Yeah, we played that on, I think

01:04:21.179 --> 01:04:23.000
we played on the Friday as well for that one.

01:04:23.260 --> 01:04:26.699
But it was cool. You had long hair then, didn't

01:04:26.699 --> 01:04:28.519
you, Judd, in that night? I did have long hair,

01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:31.269
yeah. I think you guys all had long hair, I'm

01:04:31.269 --> 01:04:33.230
pretty sure, right, at that time? There was a

01:04:33.230 --> 01:04:35.469
period where we all had long hair, yeah. Well,

01:04:35.489 --> 01:04:37.730
Ed had that fucking shaved head with the ponytail.

01:04:38.230 --> 01:04:40.170
Well, he had long hair in the Secret Samadhi

01:04:40.170 --> 01:04:42.070
video, I'm sorry, in the Selling the Drama video,

01:04:42.170 --> 01:04:44.909
and then by eye alone he had shaved it, and that's

01:04:44.909 --> 01:04:46.469
when he had the rat tail thing going on, so,

01:04:46.550 --> 01:04:48.909
yeah. Never saw that before, dude. I got to give

01:04:48.909 --> 01:04:51.989
it to Ed, and I think it was like a drunken fucking

01:04:51.989 --> 01:04:54.050
thing or something, like a better, like, I dare

01:04:54.050 --> 01:04:56.289
you to do this. I think him and my cousin Matt

01:04:56.289 --> 01:04:59.260
were drunk. it's like shave my head matt matt's

01:04:59.260 --> 01:05:01.480
like okay just leave leave his fucking tail back

01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:04.699
there okay i always wanted to know if he shaved

01:05:04.699 --> 01:05:07.920
his head because of uh michael from rem and i

01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:10.539
knew he was really big into rem so i always wondered

01:05:10.539 --> 01:05:13.340
if that was like some sort of connection you

01:05:13.340 --> 01:05:16.239
know like oh he wanted to kind of have that same

01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:18.900
vibe a little bit i don't know no i think he

01:05:18.900 --> 01:05:22.699
just he had super long hair and it really hadn't

01:05:22.699 --> 01:05:24.320
started losing it yet but he was i think he just

01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:29.090
got sick of having and you know doing the shows

01:05:29.090 --> 01:05:31.929
with it so he's just like shave it off that became

01:05:31.929 --> 01:05:34.889
his thing so it was like he grew hair back a

01:05:34.889 --> 01:05:36.590
little bit for secret samadhi and then dyed it

01:05:36.590 --> 01:05:38.769
blonde and then did yours yeah did what you got

01:05:38.769 --> 01:05:40.670
going right there dude and then he did actually

01:05:40.670 --> 01:05:43.889
did the uh and he grew it back again one last

01:05:43.889 --> 01:05:48.030
time oh five that was the worst hair he ever

01:05:48.030 --> 01:05:51.590
had bro and he used to wear like this scully

01:05:51.590 --> 01:05:54.769
under over it because yeah pushed out to here

01:05:55.440 --> 01:05:58.300
Probably at that point he had shaved it, grew

01:05:58.300 --> 01:06:00.719
it out, shaved it, grew it out so much that it

01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:02.119
was, you know, and he was getting a little bit

01:06:02.119 --> 01:06:05.619
older too. So it was probably not growing the

01:06:05.619 --> 01:06:09.719
way that, you know. Right. Was supposed to. No,

01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:12.039
definitely not. Ed's baddest look. And I never

01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:14.239
thought he could do it because he always had

01:06:14.239 --> 01:06:15.760
to shave face. But when he grew that fucking

01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:17.920
big old burly beard that was kind of thick, I'm

01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:19.659
like, I didn't even know Ed Kowalczyk could grow

01:06:19.659 --> 01:06:21.639
hair on his face. Then all of a sudden there

01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:25.469
was like a fucking half as easy top beard. But,

01:06:25.469 --> 01:06:28.989
yeah, that hair with the beanie and sticking

01:06:28.989 --> 01:06:31.030
out the sides, I was like, what are you doing,

01:06:31.190 --> 01:06:34.710
bro? Well, his hair is naturally curly, so, yeah,

01:06:34.730 --> 01:06:37.610
it would grow on the puffy. Before it grows too

01:06:37.610 --> 01:06:42.190
long to, like, down. The hang, yeah. The awkward

01:06:42.190 --> 01:06:45.250
stage. If any guy has grown their hair out, they

01:06:45.250 --> 01:06:47.050
know you've got to go through that awkward stage

01:06:47.050 --> 01:06:48.670
where you're wearing hats and stuff. But I would

01:06:48.670 --> 01:06:50.769
have just put the whole thing under a beanie,

01:06:50.869 --> 01:06:55.989
you know? Exactly. I wouldn't. Back to Woodstock.

01:06:56.690 --> 01:06:59.909
We had our own dressing room. We had this sign

01:06:59.909 --> 01:07:01.610
in front of the dressing room that said live

01:07:01.610 --> 01:07:05.429
on it with the Woodstock logo in 94. I took that

01:07:05.429 --> 01:07:09.650
sign and we all signed it. I gave it to my parents

01:07:09.650 --> 01:07:12.210
for their anniversary that year. It's hanging

01:07:12.210 --> 01:07:15.710
in my mom's house. I'm sure that could be someone

01:07:15.710 --> 01:07:18.469
who would really like to have that. Me, Mama

01:07:18.469 --> 01:07:22.550
Gracie. I'm coming for that next time. I call

01:07:22.550 --> 01:07:27.969
dibs. but yeah yeah did you party with anybody

01:07:27.969 --> 01:07:29.909
check because i know you said you were like in

01:07:29.909 --> 01:07:32.869
and out on friday on in 99 but in 94 did you

01:07:32.869 --> 01:07:35.489
stay and party with any bands that you were like

01:07:35.489 --> 01:07:38.750
you know oh these are some cool bands no we had

01:07:38.750 --> 01:07:41.250
to we we got there we had to do some press we

01:07:41.250 --> 01:07:43.730
played the show we did some official pictures

01:07:43.730 --> 01:07:45.869
with albert watson i think was the name of the

01:07:45.869 --> 01:07:49.050
photographer and then we had to fucking go wow

01:07:49.050 --> 01:07:51.699
we didn't get to hang out and watch it so your

01:07:51.699 --> 01:07:53.380
tour manager at that point would have been like

01:07:53.380 --> 01:07:57.340
dude give us a day to just hang out man yeah

01:07:57.340 --> 01:08:02.480
man i would have been hanging out with uh arrowsmith

01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:06.019
doing coke with fucking steven tyler well yeah

01:08:06.019 --> 01:08:08.440
that was probably partially the reason why they

01:08:08.440 --> 01:08:10.860
didn't want them sticking around because i mean

01:08:10.860 --> 01:08:13.280
yes and back then you were still young we were

01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:16.619
like 23 then yeah i mean especially with all

01:08:16.619 --> 01:08:19.869
the stuff with nirvana going on and true and

01:08:19.869 --> 01:08:23.250
stuff and like you know then kurt like because

01:08:23.250 --> 01:08:27.510
wasn't it kurt uh i think passed away like a

01:08:27.510 --> 01:08:30.270
a week before throwing copper came out or something

01:08:30.270 --> 01:08:32.789
like that it was in 94 it could have been around

01:08:32.789 --> 01:08:36.350
the same time april 94 he died so i don't know

01:08:36.350 --> 01:08:38.189
that's when tori copper came out so yeah you're

01:08:38.189 --> 01:08:40.670
probably right could be a week before or after

01:08:40.670 --> 01:08:43.390
i'm not sure but i'm sure with all the stuff

01:08:43.390 --> 01:08:45.850
surrounding that like they didn't want you guys

01:08:45.850 --> 01:08:49.970
like you know young you know popping off they

01:08:49.970 --> 01:08:51.989
didn't want you guys getting involved with all

01:08:51.989 --> 01:08:55.310
that nonsense especially so young and well i

01:08:55.310 --> 01:08:59.149
mean you know we say they there we had you know

01:08:59.149 --> 01:09:00.789
we had a tour manager and a manager obviously

01:09:00.789 --> 01:09:03.369
but we wouldn't really listen to them that much

01:09:03.369 --> 01:09:06.670
yeah four against two basically at that point

01:09:06.670 --> 01:09:09.409
but you know what was crazy about that time uh

01:09:09.409 --> 01:09:12.470
both luke and chad like it was heavily known

01:09:12.470 --> 01:09:16.430
that kirk cobain was a fucking hardcore heroin

01:09:16.430 --> 01:09:20.359
addict same with scott wyland And nobody in their

01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:23.220
orbit seemed to do anything to help them. Like,

01:09:23.220 --> 01:09:25.380
it was just, like, known that they were fucking

01:09:25.380 --> 01:09:28.500
full -blown heroin addicts. And, you know, Kurt's

01:09:28.500 --> 01:09:31.340
doing interviews, passing out, fucking cigarette

01:09:31.340 --> 01:09:33.560
burning in his hand, fucking going all the way

01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:35.720
down burning his fingers. And nobody seemed to

01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:38.100
step in and, like, offer that dude a hand. Like,

01:09:38.100 --> 01:09:41.739
it's just crazy that that was able to go on and

01:09:41.739 --> 01:09:44.840
really in the public's face and stuff. And nobody

01:09:44.840 --> 01:09:47.199
did anything about it. Well, you know what's

01:09:47.199 --> 01:09:50.319
interesting about that? whole situation too regarding

01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:53.720
both of those guys scott and kurt is that courtney

01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:57.819
love was involved one way or another with both

01:09:57.819 --> 01:10:01.560
right demises eventually scott being i think

01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:07.199
um he passed away in 2014 2015 so i mean he lasted

01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:10.699
for a while but he was i mean he was pretty screwed

01:10:10.699 --> 01:10:13.479
up there for pretty much i mean you know he had

01:10:13.479 --> 01:10:15.979
times where he would be okay and then he would

01:10:15.979 --> 01:10:18.989
come back to just right mess again well you know

01:10:18.989 --> 01:10:22.010
which is why some pilots kept coming back then

01:10:22.010 --> 01:10:24.890
you know they were gone and scott did his velvet

01:10:24.890 --> 01:10:28.630
revolver thing yeah she i lived in portland oregon

01:10:28.630 --> 01:10:31.850
from 95 to 2005 and she was she i don't know

01:10:31.850 --> 01:10:33.529
if she's from portland but she was living there

01:10:33.529 --> 01:10:36.810
yeah for and people knew who she was and she

01:10:36.810 --> 01:10:41.770
was she was basically a star fucker oh yeah she

01:10:41.770 --> 01:10:45.090
was with billy gorgon with a bunch of i mean

01:10:45.090 --> 01:10:47.729
a bunch of musicians but Those are three. And

01:10:47.729 --> 01:10:50.930
then actors and shit. She just got around. And

01:10:50.930 --> 01:10:55.369
I think to her, not credit, but, you know, she

01:10:55.369 --> 01:10:58.229
was also a heroin addict, too. So it's like,

01:10:58.250 --> 01:11:01.649
you know, she was probably making a lot of unconscious

01:11:01.649 --> 01:11:05.449
decisions based on that addictions, not saying

01:11:05.449 --> 01:11:07.630
right or wrong or making an excuse, but just

01:11:07.630 --> 01:11:11.449
saying. And there's a lot of people, too, which

01:11:11.449 --> 01:11:13.130
I mean, who knows? But there's a lot of people

01:11:13.130 --> 01:11:15.350
out there that think that she had something.

01:11:15.789 --> 01:11:18.529
actually do with kirk cobain's death not just

01:11:18.529 --> 01:11:22.010
like right the drugs on him but like deeper which

01:11:22.010 --> 01:11:25.489
who who knows you know but well there's definitely

01:11:25.489 --> 01:11:29.029
some fishy stuff about that that me being one

01:11:29.029 --> 01:11:31.710
of them dude because if you know like anything

01:11:31.710 --> 01:11:35.289
about the way kirk cobain lived like they were

01:11:35.289 --> 01:11:39.590
driving a 1992 saturn which was like a piece

01:11:39.590 --> 01:11:43.590
of shit car and they had like this house in seattle

01:11:43.590 --> 01:11:45.569
the one that he was found dead in that wasn't

01:11:45.569 --> 01:11:47.869
anything crazy like he wasn't living that rock

01:11:47.869 --> 01:11:49.869
star lifestyle and spending that money which

01:11:49.869 --> 01:11:54.510
she so badly wanted to do so like there's a motive

01:11:54.510 --> 01:11:57.710
right there and then just some of the the the

01:11:57.710 --> 01:12:00.810
things around it like supposedly had too much

01:12:00.810 --> 01:12:03.250
heroin in the system to even lift up a shotgun

01:12:03.250 --> 01:12:05.449
which whatever his tolerance could be so high

01:12:05.449 --> 01:12:08.210
so they don't really know that and the and the

01:12:08.210 --> 01:12:11.529
suicide note too something about the note yeah

01:12:11.529 --> 01:12:15.029
being i think written and courtney's handwriting

01:12:15.029 --> 01:12:18.850
it's just like what right i mean you know and

01:12:18.850 --> 01:12:22.850
then supposedly shit supposedly he couldn't like

01:12:22.850 --> 01:12:25.229
the shotgun was too big for him to use like put

01:12:25.229 --> 01:12:26.850
it in his mouth and use the hand like he would

01:12:26.850 --> 01:12:29.689
have had to use like his toe to pull the trigger

01:12:29.689 --> 01:12:32.689
and then supposedly there was two shots the one

01:12:32.689 --> 01:12:35.399
that took his head off but one that grazed by

01:12:35.399 --> 01:12:39.000
his head and went. So it's like just weird stuff.

01:12:39.300 --> 01:12:43.119
And you know, those police seem to not really

01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:44.739
investigate too hard. Cause they were just like,

01:12:44.779 --> 01:12:47.020
Oh, he's gone. But again, whatever clear cut

01:12:47.020 --> 01:12:49.659
case, fucking heroin addict killed himself. But

01:12:49.659 --> 01:12:57.560
yeah, man, to me, JFK thing. I mean, they're

01:12:57.560 --> 01:13:01.140
still hiding stuff. Oh, hell yeah. They are still

01:13:01.140 --> 01:13:04.439
hiding it. Absolutely. They're hiding it on this

01:13:04.439 --> 01:13:07.340
latest one. The Trump, President Trump attempted

01:13:07.340 --> 01:13:10.039
assassination. Like, OK, lone gunman fucking

01:13:10.039 --> 01:13:13.659
on a roof with not nobody catching this guy.

01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:15.819
He's got range finders like what? That's the

01:13:15.819 --> 01:13:18.439
biggest either security mishap ever from one

01:13:18.439 --> 01:13:21.359
of the best, like supposedly Secret Service,

01:13:21.399 --> 01:13:24.060
like one of the best security things out there.

01:13:24.140 --> 01:13:28.399
And they just missed all that and whatever. But

01:13:28.399 --> 01:13:30.739
whatever. I digress. Well, as they say, John,

01:13:30.819 --> 01:13:33.899
history does repeat itself. Yes. And it's true.

01:13:34.039 --> 01:13:36.680
Who knows? Luke, thank you for saying that, dude,

01:13:36.699 --> 01:13:39.479
because that's a big part of anything. Like for

01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:42.079
people who don't want to pay attention to the

01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:44.319
then and now, they're probably certainly not

01:13:44.319 --> 01:13:46.739
paying attention to the past. So not only does

01:13:46.739 --> 01:13:49.060
it repeat itself, but it allows it to repeat

01:13:49.060 --> 01:13:51.739
itself because it's now new for these people

01:13:51.739 --> 01:13:56.000
that are just bumbling through life and existence.

01:13:56.140 --> 01:14:00.550
It's the same institutions involved. Luke, I

01:14:00.550 --> 01:14:02.170
want to thank you for coming on, dude. You were

01:14:02.170 --> 01:14:04.390
fucking awesome, man. Really cool, really fun.

01:14:04.470 --> 01:14:06.210
Thank you for having me on. Thank you, Luke.

01:14:06.210 --> 01:14:09.250
I hope we can do this again. Yeah, for sure.

01:14:09.430 --> 01:14:13.109
Please, please keep learning that instrument,

01:14:13.289 --> 01:14:15.890
man. Keep warming up your voice and doing your

01:14:15.890 --> 01:14:18.390
thing, man, because there's nothing better, whether

01:14:18.390 --> 01:14:21.430
you take this as a career or whether it's just

01:14:21.430 --> 01:14:24.090
a hobby in your life, there's nothing better

01:14:24.090 --> 01:14:26.369
than to be able to sit down, do something creative

01:14:26.369 --> 01:14:28.960
that means something to you and, like, even if

01:14:28.960 --> 01:14:31.159
it's just your escape from your nine to five

01:14:31.159 --> 01:14:33.819
job when you get home for two hours like it just

01:14:33.819 --> 01:14:36.020
makes life better so keep doing you man and keep

01:14:36.020 --> 01:14:39.659
rocking i will and i 100 agree too i mean music

01:14:39.659 --> 01:14:43.300
is i mean it's helped me in so many ways it's

01:14:43.300 --> 01:14:46.260
helped many people in so many ways i'm sure live

01:14:46.260 --> 01:14:49.600
has helped you know thousand hundreds of thousands

01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:53.760
of people sure difficult situations i mean there's

01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:56.979
a lot of bands out there including lives music

01:14:56.979 --> 01:14:59.340
that you know has helped me through a lot of

01:14:59.340 --> 01:15:02.000
stuff so they've helped me get laid a bunch you

01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:04.800
know how many times i wasn't really talking about

01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:07.100
that but they helped me get laid too motherfucker

01:15:07.100 --> 01:15:10.920
but there was a reason for that but yeah dude

01:15:10.920 --> 01:15:12.579
i would put on throwing copper back in the day

01:15:12.579 --> 01:15:15.840
and you know put on a have a glass of wine with

01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:19.220
a little lady and uh you know by i alone i was

01:15:19.220 --> 01:15:23.529
completely done uh anyway Again, Luke, thank

01:15:23.529 --> 01:15:25.369
you, man. And you were great. We are going to

01:15:25.369 --> 01:15:27.430
do this again and keep doing you, brother. You

01:15:27.430 --> 01:15:29.890
seem cool. For 22 years old, I was not as put

01:15:29.890 --> 01:15:33.210
together as you, not as thought out as you. So

01:15:33.210 --> 01:15:35.989
rock on, man. I do get told that I'm mature for

01:15:35.989 --> 01:15:40.210
my age a lot. That is true. But then I look younger,

01:15:40.270 --> 01:15:44.609
so it's confusing. When you thought of 19, that

01:15:44.609 --> 01:15:48.189
happens quite often. I'm sure. Which I guess

01:15:48.189 --> 01:15:50.850
is a compliment. I mean, when I was younger and

01:15:50.850 --> 01:15:54.029
I looked younger than I actually was, then it

01:15:54.029 --> 01:15:56.590
wasn't really so much of a compliment. It was

01:15:56.590 --> 01:16:00.930
more aggravating. It's like I'm 18 or whatever.

01:16:01.010 --> 01:16:03.590
And I look, you know, 16 to some people, you

01:16:03.590 --> 01:16:05.649
know, like that type of thing. And now you go

01:16:05.649 --> 01:16:07.550
into the liquor store and they're asking you

01:16:07.550 --> 01:16:09.630
for ID. You're like, really, ma 'am? I'm 22.

01:16:10.750 --> 01:16:14.149
How dare you? I got carded the other day. I'm

01:16:14.149 --> 01:16:17.880
like. I'm 42, you wacko fucking person. Why are

01:16:17.880 --> 01:16:22.800
you carding me? I certainly look at least look

01:16:22.800 --> 01:16:25.460
21. Maybe they thought the beard was fake or

01:16:25.460 --> 01:16:28.500
something. Exactly. It's glued on. All right,

01:16:28.520 --> 01:16:31.920
McLovin. Yes. Glue on the beard. That's Luke

01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:36.920
Smerishniak. Am I right? Smerishniak. Yeah, close

01:16:36.920 --> 01:16:39.800
enough. All right, Smerishniak. Less on the smear

01:16:39.800 --> 01:16:42.960
and less on just the smir. Smerishniak. I got

01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:45.779
it now. Never forgetting that again. All right,

01:16:45.779 --> 01:16:47.800
man. Thank you so much. Thank you, Luke, man.

01:16:47.800 --> 01:16:49.220
That's great. Thank you very much. Thank you.

01:16:49.439 --> 01:16:53.340
Appreciate it. All right, man. Luke S. Cause

01:16:53.340 --> 01:16:55.460
I forgot how to say it already. You fucking nailed

01:16:55.460 --> 01:16:57.779
it though. When you said it. I know, dude, look

01:16:57.779 --> 01:17:00.380
at me getting better. I can never say it again.

01:17:01.699 --> 01:17:06.520
It's imprinted now. Yeah. Smurf. It's like Smurf,

01:17:06.539 --> 01:17:11.220
but you don't go there. You go Smurf. Yes, sir.

01:17:13.210 --> 01:17:18.770
uh mr bob a what do you got going on buddy and

01:17:18.770 --> 01:17:20.810
don't tell me how great the guest was we don't

01:17:20.810 --> 01:17:27.970
care audience just saw them nice i had to i had

01:17:27.970 --> 01:17:34.630
to i i have a potential um uh guest that uh is

01:17:34.630 --> 01:17:37.529
gonna come on yeah i talked to him a couple days

01:17:37.529 --> 01:17:42.029
ago uh here's uh here's some of his work if um

01:17:42.890 --> 01:17:47.250
I'm going to share you some video. Give me one

01:17:47.250 --> 01:17:50.590
second. What do you got playing on in the background,

01:17:50.789 --> 01:17:55.489
Bobby? Shut it off. That's my TV. I know it is,

01:17:55.510 --> 01:17:57.569
dude. How dare you watch us and the TV at the

01:17:57.569 --> 01:18:01.729
same time, you prick. Let's go with this one.

01:18:02.050 --> 01:18:04.149
He's like Baba Booey. He's watching The View,

01:18:04.289 --> 01:18:06.310
man. What are you talking about? He's like Baba

01:18:06.310 --> 01:18:08.310
Booey sleeping at the desk while this show's

01:18:08.310 --> 01:18:12.750
on. These are shorts. Oh, cool. Dude, they're

01:18:12.750 --> 01:18:15.750
pretty, like, that, whatever those title cards

01:18:15.750 --> 01:18:18.770
are called is pretty legit. Yeah, all of them

01:18:18.770 --> 01:18:20.710
are like that. I checked out his YouTube. What's

01:18:20.710 --> 01:18:23.670
this guy's name again? Library of the Untold.

01:18:25.789 --> 01:18:32.090
That looks like a dick. You're hearing it, right?

01:18:32.750 --> 01:18:34.989
No. I heard it for a split second. Now it's stopped.

01:18:35.050 --> 01:18:37.090
Oh, there it is. I think it's coming through

01:18:37.090 --> 01:18:38.310
your microphone, though, Bobby. I'm going to

01:18:38.310 --> 01:18:40.949
stop your sharing. Click that audio button. Share

01:18:40.949 --> 01:18:46.090
audio. I thought I shared the audio. You thought,

01:18:46.210 --> 01:18:53.310
but you... Every goddamn time. Every. Could it

01:18:53.310 --> 01:19:00.350
be that... There it is. I got no video. That's

01:19:00.350 --> 01:19:04.430
definitely coming through his microphone. Do

01:19:04.430 --> 01:19:11.420
you hear it? I can hear it. hear it sounds like

01:19:11.420 --> 01:19:13.119
it's still coming through your microphone and

01:19:13.119 --> 01:19:21.100
we can't see it dude that's uh bear with us ladies

01:19:21.100 --> 01:19:25.359
and gentlemen it's bye as always yes you see

01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:33.079
yes you got your dmb hat on there buddy yes sir

01:19:33.079 --> 01:19:36.670
notice that thank you thank you thank you At

01:19:36.670 --> 01:19:38.850
first I thought it said OMD. I was like, oh,

01:19:38.890 --> 01:19:42.750
old school. There you go. Oh, no. Library of

01:19:42.750 --> 01:19:47.489
Untold? Let's see if I can pull up. All right,

01:19:47.510 --> 01:19:50.170
I got the thing. Wait, so you're not getting

01:19:50.170 --> 01:19:53.149
any sound at all? We're getting only sound, and

01:19:53.149 --> 01:19:54.750
it sounds like it's coming through your microphone,

01:19:54.850 --> 01:19:57.649
and we're not getting any video. Hold on a second.

01:19:57.989 --> 01:20:03.609
I don't know why it's doing this to it. Just

01:20:03.609 --> 01:20:07.739
as much as the mind. Which video is that, Bobby?

01:20:07.819 --> 01:20:10.520
Really breaks down at its center, inner earth.

01:20:10.680 --> 01:20:12.859
Did Jung change his mind? What video is it? The

01:20:12.859 --> 01:20:16.220
first one. The first one. Hold on. I got it.

01:20:16.220 --> 01:20:22.020
Hold on. It seems that the laws of physics realize

01:20:22.020 --> 01:20:26.420
the fabric of reality becomes. Bobby, pause yours

01:20:26.420 --> 01:20:30.380
for a second, dude. All right. Let me see if

01:20:30.380 --> 01:20:35.970
I could do this. I hear yours. Mute, Bobby, mute

01:20:35.970 --> 01:20:41.989
for a second. Share. Replace current share. Share.

01:20:43.890 --> 01:20:55.170
Bobby, pause that, please. Safari. Share. Bobby.

01:20:58.010 --> 01:21:01.970
Are you sharing it? I'm about to, but yours is

01:21:01.970 --> 01:21:04.210
playing. I don't know why it keeps playing. All

01:21:04.210 --> 01:21:06.789
right. It stops. All right. Thank you. Computer

01:21:06.789 --> 01:21:08.609
is messing up. I don't know. I need to get a

01:21:08.609 --> 01:21:11.489
new laptop. This thing's running slow shit. I

01:21:11.489 --> 01:21:13.289
agree. So please do that. All right, here we

01:21:13.289 --> 01:21:16.989
go. Let me see. It seems that the laws of physics

01:21:16.989 --> 01:21:20.630
are local. In other words. physical reality is

01:21:20.630 --> 01:21:25.109
subject to bending and shaping just as much as

01:21:25.109 --> 01:21:28.670
the mind is could it be that like a black hole

01:21:28.670 --> 01:21:32.010
the closer we get to a giant gravitational force

01:21:32.010 --> 01:21:36.310
the less materialized the fabric of reality becomes

01:21:36.310 --> 01:21:41.250
if we indeed project reality from within and

01:21:41.250 --> 01:21:44.489
the all is mind could it be that the hermetic

01:21:44.489 --> 01:21:48.250
laws like cause and effect act differently in

01:21:48.250 --> 01:21:51.750
different places what if this so -called place

01:21:51.750 --> 01:21:56.850
called Agartha is also not localized to our understanding

01:21:56.850 --> 01:22:00.489
of physics what if there is a center point of

01:22:00.489 --> 01:22:04.550
all things big and small where reality just comes

01:22:04.550 --> 01:22:07.520
off of its hinges after all the pioneer Eogland,

01:22:07.699 --> 01:22:10.319
or seat of the soul known as the mind's eye,

01:22:10.560 --> 01:22:13.640
is located in the center of the brain, like the

01:22:13.640 --> 01:22:16.659
crystals in a geo. It seems that the laws of

01:22:16.659 --> 01:22:20.000
physics... He is way too smart to come on here

01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:23.560
and me be able to comprehend. That's freaking

01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:27.300
awesome. I like that. Very cool. I think he could

01:22:27.300 --> 01:22:31.239
bring it down to layman's terms. i'm joking bobby

01:22:31.239 --> 01:22:34.159
my iq is definitely higher than his no i'm i

01:22:34.159 --> 01:22:36.920
was joking i mean i'm just saying it's very it's

01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:39.039
very well thought it's very deep thought and

01:22:39.039 --> 01:22:41.760
it's kind of um you know probably shit that he's

01:22:41.760 --> 01:22:44.500
done research on but a lot of his own opinion

01:22:44.500 --> 01:22:46.500
in it too which is kind of cool so it shows he's

01:22:46.500 --> 01:22:51.100
a smart and free thinker absolutely yeah together

01:22:51.100 --> 01:22:54.460
i like you i like his work he does a lot of good

01:22:54.460 --> 01:22:57.899
work and he's got a cool voice man uh this is

01:22:57.899 --> 01:23:03.779
story library of the untold that real deep raspiness

01:23:03.779 --> 01:23:09.100
uh so yeah bobby so what what else is this channel

01:23:09.100 --> 01:23:10.840
about because that's pretty cool is is is it

01:23:10.840 --> 01:23:15.300
all stuff like uh about uh old stuff and like

01:23:15.300 --> 01:23:18.600
is there it's it's really about like the mysteries

01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:22.319
you know like the um like the hermetic teachings

01:23:25.630 --> 01:23:32.750
Oh, esoteric information, really. Yeah, the things

01:23:32.750 --> 01:23:36.350
that most people are not privy to, you know?

01:23:37.069 --> 01:23:39.050
Just for that little bit that we just watched

01:23:39.050 --> 01:23:40.569
what he's talking about, it kind of reminds me

01:23:40.569 --> 01:23:43.390
of Terrence Howard. And I still am on the fence

01:23:43.390 --> 01:23:45.710
of whether he's fucking out of his mind or onto

01:23:45.710 --> 01:23:49.489
something. I think he's onto something, dude.

01:23:50.699 --> 01:23:53.079
I'll tell you, he did some good work with Blender

01:23:53.079 --> 01:23:57.079
and with putting that whole thing together and

01:23:57.079 --> 01:23:59.760
finding the negative space and everything. That

01:23:59.760 --> 01:24:05.960
was pretty interesting. Very. And just that patent

01:24:05.960 --> 01:24:09.680
he has on the gun that is potentially a fucking

01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:14.260
unlimited power source, that so seems legit to

01:24:14.260 --> 01:24:17.039
me. And then he had that Harvey Weinstein or

01:24:17.039 --> 01:24:19.899
Eric Weinstein guy on. Eric Weinstein, yeah.

01:24:20.239 --> 01:24:22.800
yeah and yeah not harvey weinstein not harvey

01:24:22.800 --> 01:24:27.859
but uh harvey tried to grab his dick yeah right

01:24:27.859 --> 01:24:31.260
probably no eric weinstein is he's he's fucking

01:24:31.260 --> 01:24:34.359
brilliant he's a very smart man but he also went

01:24:34.359 --> 01:24:36.500
over like some things he's wrong on some things

01:24:36.500 --> 01:24:38.779
he was right on and he had no idea how he got

01:24:38.779 --> 01:24:42.739
there by just being terrence howard like so he

01:24:42.739 --> 01:24:45.939
says the creativity you know the creativity part

01:24:45.939 --> 01:24:50.229
of his brain you know yeah Anything else for

01:24:50.229 --> 01:24:53.609
us? I got to pee so bad, dude. And I pissed right

01:24:53.609 --> 01:24:56.470
before here. But I guess I drank a lot of. Got

01:24:56.470 --> 01:24:58.810
to pee so bad you can taste it. I just want.

01:24:58.949 --> 01:25:03.090
It's like right at the tip of my hog. All right.

01:25:03.130 --> 01:25:05.710
I just want to tell everybody Casper has taken

01:25:05.710 --> 01:25:10.409
a dip. It's at like 1570 right now. So if you're

01:25:10.409 --> 01:25:13.890
interested. We are not financial advisors. Right.

01:25:13.970 --> 01:25:16.789
We're not financial advisors. But if you're interested,

01:25:17.069 --> 01:25:21.029
buy the dip. You know, every time. On this one,

01:25:21.090 --> 01:25:22.970
we are financial advisors. There's something

01:25:22.970 --> 01:25:25.229
called the J -Row coin that you can get in on

01:25:25.229 --> 01:25:28.789
really, really bottom floor. You know, well,

01:25:28.829 --> 01:25:33.430
we could start that. I know we could. EGT coin,

01:25:33.670 --> 01:25:36.489
man. Let's go, baby. But unfortunately, that

01:25:36.489 --> 01:25:38.930
I wouldn't fuck people on. I would actually allow

01:25:38.930 --> 01:25:42.350
that to be bought and done properly. This J -Row

01:25:42.350 --> 01:25:47.060
coin. J -Row coin. would be specifically for

01:25:47.060 --> 01:25:51.060
me to rip people off with. At least you're saying

01:25:51.060 --> 01:25:53.199
it up front. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

01:25:53.279 --> 01:25:55.439
No bullshit here. Even though that's our tag,

01:25:55.640 --> 01:25:57.600
The Gracious Two, putting the shit in bullshit,

01:25:57.659 --> 01:26:00.100
you don't really get a lot out of here. And when

01:26:00.100 --> 01:26:02.220
we are just BSing on something, we let you know.

01:26:02.380 --> 01:26:05.340
So it's kind of an ironic, funny tagline that

01:26:05.340 --> 01:26:09.319
we have. That's right. It's ironic. Yeah. Alanis

01:26:09.319 --> 01:26:11.979
Morissette's writing ironic, too, about us, actually.

01:26:14.980 --> 01:26:16.920
Anything else, Bobby, before we let you go? That's

01:26:16.920 --> 01:26:20.199
Bob A from Bob A's World. I just want to thank

01:26:20.199 --> 01:26:24.000
everybody for keeping and keep tuning in. Yes.

01:26:24.619 --> 01:26:27.399
Hell yeah. And if you can't watch live, watch

01:26:27.399 --> 01:26:29.399
afterwards. But yeah, man, we really appreciate

01:26:29.399 --> 01:26:31.659
this. You guys are awesome. I don't know why

01:26:31.659 --> 01:26:33.720
Rumble's still doing well because it seems like

01:26:33.720 --> 01:26:36.000
the Facebook numbers are back up where they were.

01:26:36.260 --> 01:26:39.829
And Rumble's still the same as well. It's a little

01:26:39.829 --> 01:26:44.050
bit less, but it's still like 2 ,000 plays, which

01:26:44.050 --> 01:26:47.569
is crazy. So I don't know if we gained an audience

01:26:47.569 --> 01:26:51.029
there as well because the Facebook people went

01:26:51.029 --> 01:26:55.170
there and then it started showing up in algorithms

01:26:55.170 --> 01:26:58.069
and now other people are getting it. So we appreciate

01:26:58.069 --> 01:27:00.729
it all. Yeah, it's very, very, very cool. Yeah,

01:27:00.750 --> 01:27:02.750
we're streaming across all platforms right now.

01:27:03.050 --> 01:27:06.310
So it's good. I know we're doing something right.

01:27:06.960 --> 01:27:08.819
people start watching the show and commenting

01:27:08.819 --> 01:27:11.979
and they don't know who i am yes that means we're

01:27:11.979 --> 01:27:13.479
appealing to a different audience than those

01:27:13.479 --> 01:27:18.100
live is right 100 not that i'm a big celebrity

01:27:18.100 --> 01:27:20.779
but yeah my point is if they don't know that

01:27:20.779 --> 01:27:24.399
i'm in live or wasn't live or whatever yep then

01:27:24.399 --> 01:27:26.239
we're we're reaching a different audience which

01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:30.039
is great exactly and don't act like you are not

01:27:30.039 --> 01:27:32.960
a big celebrity dude i mean if you're not what

01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:38.050
they would call celebrity then uh I'm not facially

01:27:38.050 --> 01:27:40.590
famous. Fuck that. You were on the cover of the

01:27:40.590 --> 01:27:43.090
Rolling Stone magazine, bro. Not that they're

01:27:43.090 --> 01:27:46.710
anything now, but when you were 1995's Rolling

01:27:46.710 --> 01:27:49.729
Stone Artist of the Year, I mean, that's to do,

01:27:49.930 --> 01:27:53.710
dude. It was a big deal then. And now Andy Green

01:27:53.710 --> 01:27:57.489
just prints lies. Exactly, you prick, Andy. Andy,

01:27:57.510 --> 01:28:00.569
Andy. Why don't you come on the show, Andy? You

01:28:00.569 --> 01:28:03.779
know, since you're such a great journalist. why

01:28:03.779 --> 01:28:05.619
don't you come on and talk about some things

01:28:05.619 --> 01:28:09.000
and we'll, if you notice, we're very fair with

01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:11.140
everybody, dude, we don't cut people off. If

01:28:11.140 --> 01:28:13.260
we do, I say, I'm sorry. We let you talk. So

01:28:13.260 --> 01:28:15.800
it's not like you'd be getting ganged up on or

01:28:15.800 --> 01:28:18.260
anything, but we would have a nice. I know we

01:28:18.260 --> 01:28:21.020
want your, your sincere opinion about Kamala.

01:28:21.539 --> 01:28:27.539
Yes. Give us your sincere opinion about it. Did

01:28:27.539 --> 01:28:30.699
you vote for her in the primary? This is my question

01:28:30.699 --> 01:28:32.539
to anybody. Did you vote for her in the primary

01:28:32.539 --> 01:28:35.310
the first time? oh you didn't oh so you're gonna

01:28:35.310 --> 01:28:38.229
vote for her now though got it okay of course

01:28:38.229 --> 01:28:40.850
they're told to of course if they were told to

01:28:40.850 --> 01:28:42.869
then they were sheeple because that's how sheeple

01:28:42.869 --> 01:28:47.329
work yeah uh i'm just gonna say one thing um

01:28:47.329 --> 01:28:51.970
when i when when john asked me to uh to uh do

01:28:51.970 --> 01:28:55.489
this and he told me that chad was gonna be part

01:28:55.489 --> 01:28:59.960
of it and everything and where we're at now it's

01:28:59.960 --> 01:29:02.739
it's it's a blessing it really is it's a blessing

01:29:02.739 --> 01:29:06.380
to see this channel bloom how it is to see the

01:29:06.380 --> 01:29:08.979
comments to see the people interacting it's amazing

01:29:08.979 --> 01:29:11.640
it really is agree very cool well and it was

01:29:11.640 --> 01:29:13.619
all organic thank you for coming along bobby

01:29:13.619 --> 01:29:16.159
yeah thank you absolutely bobby we definitely

01:29:16.159 --> 01:29:19.720
appreciate you and all your mishaps um we uh

01:29:19.720 --> 01:29:21.859
but and this was all organic too this wasn't

01:29:21.859 --> 01:29:25.439
like uh myself and chad had some like crazy elaborate

01:29:25.439 --> 01:29:28.199
plan or anything it was just we did couple podcasts

01:29:28.199 --> 01:29:31.420
together uh and there was chemistry there and

01:29:31.420 --> 01:29:33.539
want to start this thing and here we are and

01:29:33.539 --> 01:29:37.020
it's uh it's fun it questions things it doesn't

01:29:37.020 --> 01:29:41.199
pretend to know everything it's constantly uh

01:29:41.199 --> 01:29:43.819
doing research so i mean it's just it's just

01:29:43.819 --> 01:29:46.779
cool and uh we appreciate people for listening

01:29:46.779 --> 01:29:49.180
and coming along and we're just getting started

01:29:49.180 --> 01:29:53.880
baby absolutely yeah Chad, tell them your Rumble

01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:55.659
channel because you're putting out a video there

01:29:55.659 --> 01:29:57.340
coming up soon that's going to go there before

01:29:57.340 --> 01:30:00.279
YouTube at some point. Yes. What is my Rumble

01:30:00.279 --> 01:30:02.859
channel? Did we do Chad Gracie live? I think

01:30:02.859 --> 01:30:07.279
it was. Let me look it up. Yes. Because I forget.

01:30:08.119 --> 01:30:10.739
That's how this show works, ladies and gentlemen.

01:30:10.739 --> 01:30:15.100
We are on the spot. We don't plan. I mean, we

01:30:15.100 --> 01:30:16.880
have planned guests and some things we want to

01:30:16.880 --> 01:30:20.079
talk about, but we have no pre -scripted things.

01:30:20.750 --> 01:30:22.109
Although, Bobby, I want you to start writing

01:30:22.109 --> 01:30:26.090
me scripts on things. Okay. No, I'm just kidding.

01:30:26.229 --> 01:30:28.750
I don't want anything prepared. Just kidding.

01:30:29.350 --> 01:30:31.710
What the fuck is it? Where do you find it? What

01:30:31.710 --> 01:30:34.890
my name is? Rumble .com. I got you. I think I

01:30:34.890 --> 01:30:36.329
got you. I know. I'm on Rumble .com. I'm trying

01:30:36.329 --> 01:30:38.210
to find where it says my name on the fucking...

01:30:38.210 --> 01:30:42.989
Let me see here. I'll tell you, this is what

01:30:42.989 --> 01:30:45.310
it's all about. It's natural, you know? Chad

01:30:45.310 --> 01:30:48.270
Gracie Live. Chad Gracie Live. Thank you. That's

01:30:48.270 --> 01:30:51.060
what we thought it was. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. uh

01:30:51.060 --> 01:30:54.260
chad gracie live on rumble and then if you go

01:30:54.260 --> 01:30:57.000
there it's actually got links to his uh other

01:30:57.000 --> 01:31:01.420
stuff too uh his x or twitter profile and all

01:31:01.420 --> 01:31:04.060
that jazz but ladies and gentlemen i apologize

01:31:04.060 --> 01:31:06.220
i'm gonna i'm gonna because i peed literally

01:31:06.220 --> 01:31:10.399
10 minutes before i sent chad this link uh so

01:31:10.399 --> 01:31:12.619
i shouldn't have to go this bad this early because

01:31:12.619 --> 01:31:15.060
that was like an hour and 40 minutes ago as we

01:31:15.060 --> 01:31:18.859
used to say in the van bitch bladder bitch bladder

01:31:18.859 --> 01:31:22.479
but i i don't always have one it's like uh i

01:31:22.479 --> 01:31:24.300
think i drank a little bit too much this morning

01:31:24.300 --> 01:31:27.319
uh i'm gonna yeah i'm gonna say well hydrated

01:31:27.319 --> 01:31:30.199
it's good it's good for your skin i'm gonna make

01:31:30.199 --> 01:31:32.739
shit up and uh i was in the sauna for 30 minutes

01:31:32.739 --> 01:31:35.859
at 200 degrees and i needed to rehydrate so i

01:31:35.859 --> 01:31:38.659
drank 64 ounces of water i did none i just drank

01:31:38.659 --> 01:31:41.359
a lot of coffee and stupid shit but anyway thank

01:31:41.359 --> 01:31:43.960
you guys thank you filled up your 64 ounce stanley

01:31:43.960 --> 01:31:47.600
drank it all right uh i'm a yeti man okay ah

01:31:47.600 --> 01:31:50.739
yes so they better sponsor us too because i have

01:31:50.739 --> 01:31:53.260
a lot of fucking products that i use faithfully

01:31:53.260 --> 01:31:56.899
that you see here weekly that i want fucking

01:31:56.899 --> 01:31:59.819
because i'm loyal uh but i am actually chad i'm

01:31:59.819 --> 01:32:01.720
reaching out to some sponsors and stuff that

01:32:01.720 --> 01:32:04.979
uh i think well for us so uh yeah that's good

01:32:04.979 --> 01:32:07.460
that i use uh but thank you gracious audience

01:32:07.460 --> 01:32:10.640
the gracious tuesday with the gracious two and

01:32:10.640 --> 01:32:13.760
bob a putting the shit and bullshit please like

01:32:13.760 --> 01:32:16.779
subscribe follow comment, all that good stuff.

01:32:17.100 --> 01:32:17.539
Thank you.