The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 055 - Eric Martinis

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Preparing. Setting it up. And we are live. Yeah,

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baby. Show 55, we are live, Chad. 55 and live,

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yeah. It's the gracious Tuesday. What's up? What's

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up? Well, a lot of crazy shit. Oh, a lot of crazy

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shit. I mean, you know, obviously the assassination

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attempt, but the other thing I really enjoyed

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watching was the demise of James Dixon on stage.

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What the fuck was that? That was fucking wild.

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yeah so i perry like he seemed like he was yelling

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at the crowd like getting amped up into it and

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then he just went after dave navarro out of nowhere

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like was there something going on before i've

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been watching a bunch of videos on it i mean

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not that i've been like seeking it out really

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but it just keep coming up my feet so it's just

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different stuff but apparently he so edda his

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wife came out and said that he has been perry's

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been having trouble singing because everything's

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so loud on stage and his voice was fucked up

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and and uh all this stuff but there's uh fans

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have noticed there's a lot of wine on stage so

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he was obviously fucking drunk ah well what apparently

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what happened during that incident was that perry

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decided to sing over where uh dave was supposed

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to solo in mountain song and there's other videos

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previous nights where dave walks over to perry

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and taps him on the shoulder yeah no guitar solo

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here and then perry stops so perry was singing

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over the part where he was supposed to have the

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guitar solo Dave waited walked over and then

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tapped him and said doing the guitar solo now

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launches into it and I guess Perry was said there

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were some people in the front row they were saying

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it's too loud and so he was he just came to a

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head and fucking went off dude and apparently

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the bass player in that scuffle that happens

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there's a scrum going on like Dave kind of steps

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out of it and all those people kind of get on

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him at one point that if you watch closely the

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bass player what's his name, Eric Avery, comes

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over and apparently puts Dave in a headlock and

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starts wailing on him. Not Dave, I mean Perry

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in a headlock and starts wailing on him. Oh,

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wow. Yeah, because I saw the bodyguard or security

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come over and then like Dave kind of just took

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that like a champ, man. I mean, he had the guitar

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right there. He could have popped him if he wanted

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to, but he just kind of let Perry go and do his

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fucking craziness. Also, Perry gets taken off

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stage and then Steven and Eric and... and dave

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all come to the front of the stage and they're

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like hugging and shit like so you know what do

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you what do you call it lead singer disease lead

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singer disease let me ask you this because you

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guys you guys toured with them was there any

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of this shenanigans going on when you guys were

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not that i noticed i mean they all seemed pretty

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pretty cool but with each other but who knows

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you know he just seemed like a screw went off

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in his head and he was because again i only saw

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like brief portions of it and the one i saw he's

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sitting there like yelling looking angry at the

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crowd and then just goes up to dave and fucking

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starts going on him so i'm like hey now his shoulder

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checks him and then he fucking and he tries to

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like and then dave turns to him and he's like

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tries to hit him and it's wild man i was like

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yeah wild man cool well yeah At least, I don't

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know. I was going to say, at least our band didn't

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do it that way, but it might have more press.

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Yeah. Well, I mean, so yeah, what's better to

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do to get your emotions out right then and there

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and fucking throw caution to the wind? Right.

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Or be professional. Although, you know, canceling

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a whole tour and the amount of people that involves

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is fucking unfortunate. I mean, the openers,

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all the crews, all that shit, that's fucking

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fucked for them. So is that what it is? The tour

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is done now? Apparently, yeah. That's what they've

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said. wow that's a lot of people to go home and

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yeah man opening acts all their people i mean

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that just sucks can you imagine yeah well yeah

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i mean you can't you can't imagine but i mean

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geez just to let it all fester like that and

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come out you know that way is nuts man yeah that

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way and then just like i said the amount of people

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you're letting down the the drivers the crew

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all the people that all them and there's tons

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of people that are going to be unemployed now

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um they're counting on making that income yeah

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we tore with counting crows the first time we

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took out uh we took out tour insurance because

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um adam was notorious for missing shows because

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of the voice right so there were two shows on

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that tour we got paid full paid in full because

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of our insurance banging so we're like yeah we'll

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take a night off sure fuck insurance claim hell

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yeah i didn't even know you could do that so

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uh as a touring act you could say like if there's

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something that prolongs you guys from getting

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a stage you could ensure to make sure you guys

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at least get paid for it that's cool yeah you

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get an insurance policy that's that you know

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has different uh apparels in it that identifies

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like if this happens this happens this happens

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we'll cover the show if this happens we won't

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cover the show it's all laid out but yeah gotcha

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so this has got to be the biggest like this might

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be the biggest thing to happen uh on stage between

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a band i don't know if i could think of one like

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i've heard some crazy van halen stories i think

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yeah but nothing i don't remember anyone attacking

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like in a major band anyway attacking the other

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person on stage i don't remember that but it

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could have happened yeah i've seen some videos

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of like local bands and shit oh yeah well yeah

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then you know that goes without saying but uh

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for as far as big name acts man this is this

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is right up there with legendary rock fights

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on stage yeah Go down in history. For sure. Then

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you got our beloved president fucking almost

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attacked again. Wow. Another huge security failure.

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Yeah. Of course, the DHS is coming out. Mallorca

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is coming out and saying, well, they had exactly

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the amount of. protection that was assigned to

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them and blah, blah, blah. And this was a, uh,

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unplanned event and dah, dah, dah, dah, you know,

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all these fucking excuses, excuses, excuses.

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And they still haven't figured out what the fuck

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is going on with the first one. Now there's another

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one. Right. And you know, they're one of the,

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one of the officials in Florida made the comment,

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well, he's not the sitting president. It's like,

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yeah, but it's, I'm, I'm listening to some guys

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that are, we're either in secret service, uh,

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you know, a while ago, but they said that, Secret

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Service assesses threats via a threat level,

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not fucking via status. So that's how their details

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are assigned for the threat level. Right. And

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who has more of a threat level than Donald Trump?

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Nobody. Nobody. As we can see now after two attempts

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on his life. Right. And you would think that

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would be how it goes. Like, just because you're

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not the sitting president, but you're a former

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president. your life is less valuable than you

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know somebody else's like you think it would

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go based on well he's not only not only a former

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president but he's a candidate right for presidency

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the main candidate for the public party like

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he should be highly protected now oddly enough

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both the shooters were in black rock commercials

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now what kind of is that just a crazy coincidence

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That both of them were in fucking BlackRock commercials.

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And then this fucking jackass, whatever his name

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is, Randy Roth or whatever his name is, he was

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over in Ukraine recruiting people in the Ukrainian

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army. Like the State Department knew who this

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guy was. Right. So, and then he shows up trying

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to kill the president with an assault rifle,

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well, with an AK -47. Yeah. That had all the

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serial numbers scraped off. Yeah. Hmm. So, you

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know, of course you have the anti -Second Amendment

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motherfuckers coming out already saying, well,

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see, if there was more gun control, maybe Trump

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wouldn't get shot at. It's like, no. No, he's

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still a criminal. He'd still have a gun. Fucking

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first jackass obtained them illegally. Yeah.

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Whether you want to argue with that or not, this

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guy obtained his weapons illegally. So no one,

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no law was going to stop this guy. Right. And

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that's what I mean. And he's a crazy liberal

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fuck. Go figure. Yeah. Well, it's just strange

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that it's coming all from that end. I mean, two

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serious attempts on a president's life. Right.

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They're worried about MAGA extremists. Don't

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you like now how the Dems have fucking repicked

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up the flag like they're showing the flag now

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and like waving their flags and being all patriotic?

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It's like, no, no, no. Stop. Right. The flag

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was racist fucking a minute ago. Yeah. Yeah.

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Now to appeal to the base and the fucking and

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the independents. Now you're like, oh, we're

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Patreon. We're going to show our flags. We're

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taking the flag back. It's like you didn't you

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gave it up in the first place because your party

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said it's racist. Yeah. But now you're taking

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it back. So this election year. OK, got it. Well,

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and then Hillary comes out and says that. Donald

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Trump needs to take down his rhetoric after he

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gets attempted, you know, second. Right. The

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guy that's getting shot at needs to take down

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his rhetoric. Oh, OK. Like, how do you say this

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shit with a straight face? Well, it's, you know,

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it's typical narcissist blaming the victim for

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their reaction. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you think

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they're going to stop at this point or are they

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going for a lucky round three? And I think they're

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going to try again. My God, dude. But, you know,

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the person responsible for, you know, giving

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him more detail and more people is Mayorkas and

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Biden. Yeah. Period. So hop on that, motherfuckers.

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Yeah, well, I have no fucking faith in that.

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I don't know why he hasn't hired private security,

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but. Well, yeah, I'm sure he has it. But I mean,

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you know, just for them to take over. I don't

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know how that works with Secret Service. Like

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if you would work in conjunction, I would imagine.

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Having an advanced team that has more of a perimeter

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around him could be private security. Yeah. More

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money he's got to take out of his pocket. Right.

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And he used campaign funds for that since technically

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they wouldn't be coming after him for if he wasn't

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running. I would think that would be campaign

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financed. Well, you said both of these dudes

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were in BlackRock commercials. Yeah, that's what's

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come out. It's just crazy. Like if they were

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to be like. That's just kind of too on the head

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for them to be in those commercials. And then

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also, so it's like, what the fuck? This is what

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trips me out about, you know, middle class and

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even wealthy people that are for Kamala because

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her tax plan will fucking destroy us. Yeah. I

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mean, tax on unrealized gains, 25%. So if you,

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I think I've explained it before, you have $400

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,000 in equity in your house. 25 % of that is

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due to the government under their tax plan, and

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you've got to fucking stroke a check for it.

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Not when you sell your house. But before. While

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you're owning it, you've got to stroke a check

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to the government for the gains in that house.

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And then any of your tax portfolios, same thing.

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I mean, any of your investment portfolios, same

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thing. Unrealized gains, 25%. Realized gains

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when you take the money out, 44 .9%. It's currently

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20%. So how does that work if your house was

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worth that amount and then drops, but you've

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already paid 25 % on those? Yeah, they're going

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to give you a refund. You're not. But just think

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about what that will do to people. I mean, your

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retirement account's now fucked because you've

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got to give out 25 % of it on the gains that

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are in your retirement account. Right. And then

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when you retire, you've got to take out another

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44 .9%. And anybody that is voting for that is

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just an idiot. You're fucking dumb because we're

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scared of Donald Trump. It's just going to ruin

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your whole fucking retirement and the economy

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for that matter. I mean it's just crazy. Meanwhile,

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you got illegal aliens here in fucking good old

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California getting $150 ,000 for a house and

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zero interest on loans. Well, it just seems to

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be going towards your whole you'll own nothing

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and like it fucking speech. That's always been

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the fucking plan. This is part of their plan,

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dude. This is part of their plan. Meanwhile,

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you have BlackRock and all these big investment

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houses buying up most of the available housing

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stock around the country, driving up home prices.

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fucking you out of buying a house so that you

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have to rent from them and own nothing and enjoy

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it. I mean, this is the fucking plan, dude. They're

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all just moving towards it. Dude, that's crazy.

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I saw that these investment firms were like something

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about a third of the houses that were sold were

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to them. Just vacant. They come in with massive

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cash, full price offers, or sometimes above full

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price, and they just fucking lock everybody out

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of the market. So that's another reason you can't

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afford a house, let alone the inflation that's

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happened. Yeah. Well, and then just Kamala's

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just... Keep voting blue. Go ahead. Yeah, man.

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But it's just amazing how she could fucking flip

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-flop on everything. Like, it's clear, like,

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you were against fracking fucking two years ago,

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and you kept saying, it's my mission to stop

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fracking. She's literally just saying anything

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for people to vote for. Anything. She'll say

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anything, because no one fax checks her. Nobody

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on the fucking news asked her any hard questions

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past what her bullshit. Nobody. And this is what

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you're voting for. She has no fucking policies.

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She's listed no policies. Anything that she has

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talked about has been completely fucked. And

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you're just like, wait a minute. No, you can't

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do that. You can't set prices for groceries to

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government. I mean, what are you doing? you can't

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fucking i mean it's just it's wild they're like

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yeah oh yeah i'm for the child tax credit wait

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before you weren't now you are because trump

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said it oh i wanted to i don't i want to i don't

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want to tax tips oh you voted for it in the inflation

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reduction act that you know you you were the

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tie -breaking vote right to make to make give

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the irs more ability to go after people that

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are making tips all of a sudden now you don't

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want to tax those right because you're next thing

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you know she's going to say i don't want to tax

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overtime just like trump came out and said yeah

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Yeah. And they're all that's really, you know,

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two good things for the people like that really

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puts a nice chunk back into these people's the

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word percent. It's a great idea, but she's just

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stealing it from Trump just to fucking get their

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votes. And then she won't do shit for them. That's

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the thing. They all these people think, oh, she's

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a woman and blah, blah, blah. She's going to

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say all these great things. She's going to get

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an office and then fucking help us. No, she's

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not going to do shit for you. And I think that

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make your life worse. Yeah. Right. And I think

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that was the biggest takeaway from the debate

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was that he got those points across. Like you're

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just saying shit, bitch. If you really wanted

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to do this, leave right now and go do it. Right.

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Well, that's the other thing. I mean, you're,

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you're in office now. Like you're not, we know

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you're not the president. We get that, but you

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have influence and you know, you do all, you're

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just on day one, you're going to do all this

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shit. Get the fuck out of here. Right. Get out

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of here on day one. You're just going to make

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things worse. A hundred percent. Well, let's

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bring in our Mr. Eric Martinez. Yeah. One of

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the coolest dudes out there. If you guys don't

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know, he's been on our Instagram show a bunch.

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One of Chad's boys from way back in the Dizzee.

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One of my good friends. Yeah. What's going on,

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fellas? Hello, hello. There he is. What's up?

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I'm watching you turn on my video, I guess. Yeah,

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I got a camera. Let's go. Let's go. He's part

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of the CIA. He's covering up. That's right. Yeah,

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seriously. How's it going? Oh, it looks like

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he's in Utah somewhere. Yeah, that's the Pine

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Creek Trail. Nice. From your backyard. Yeah,

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well, I'm actually in Las Vegas right now. Oh,

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really? Okay. Among other things, Eric is a very

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avid hiker. He likes to do slot canyons and shit.

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So here you go. Slot canyons. I'm on a quest

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to climb all 50 highest peaks in the U .S. Really?

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Mountain climber too. Damn, dude. What's the

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next one? The next one is probably going to be

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Nevada. It's called Border Peak. Border Peak.

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Yeah, I was supposed to do that a little bit

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ago. my son wasn't able to go and i've i've tried

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to keep um him on every trip but he's he's living

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in croatia right now and split so he's going

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to be there for a year so i might have to do

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some of these peaks on my own venture out and

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you're doing you said you're doing off the 50

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highest peaks in each or the highest peak in

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each state right each state yeah right and uh

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you know the toughest is uh denali so i was gonna

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say that's the big one yeah I'll probably spend

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a full year training for that. Although Rainier

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is the toughest I've done so far in Washington

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State. That was rough. Yeah, that's all glaciated,

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right? So that's pretty nasty. Yeah, you cross

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six glaciers, and yeah, it's nasty. Have you

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done Hood? Yeah, I've done Hood. That's the tallest

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peak in Oregon. Have you done Mount Davis in

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Pennsylvania? I have. Oh, you know what? I did

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do Mount Davis. It's only like 2 ,300 feet. Yeah,

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it's nothing. You can drive right up to it. We

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didn't. We started a little bit further down.

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The easiest so far would be the one in Delaware.

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It's actually across the street from the house.

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It's just a little bench. It's a little bench?

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What's the elevation on it? It's like 860 or

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something. What about Florida? What's the highest

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elevation in Florida? Oh, geez. I think Florida

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is the lowest. It's probably at about... 600.

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I'm trying to knock out the West Coast. Those

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are the biggest peaks. We did Hawaii in the spring.

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That's Mauna Kea. That wasn't too difficult.

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You can drive there as well. It's where all the

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telescope service. I drove up there one time.

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Then you can just walk around. It's pretty cool.

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There's still some snow up there. You got a bunch

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of gear, Eric, for this? Or are you doing this,

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like, you're doing this safely? Like, you got,

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like, GPSs on you and, like, backup plans in

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case? Yeah, I'm a big advocate for having the

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10 essentials, you know, on every hike. So, yeah,

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we keep all of that. And then one of my good

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buddies, he's the only American that's climbed

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all seven peaks on all seven continents. And

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so a lot of Americans have done that. But he's

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also done all seven volcanoes. Wow. The reason

00:19:31.140 --> 00:19:33.380
that's, that's a tough feat is because the highest

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volcano in Asia is in Iran. And so he did that

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two or three years ago. He got a special permit

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and I believe he had to take a bunch of their

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mountaineers with him as part of the deal. Wow.

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Oh boy. But yeah, his, his name's David Ross

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Kelly. That seems a little, we call him Roscoe.

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roscoe you you adrenaline junkie dude that seems

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very you should have him on your show he's got

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some stories especially like doing vincent which

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is in antarctica and oh yeah i was gonna say

00:20:04.940 --> 00:20:08.220
the antarctic is that's right yeah yeah i've

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done um i did uh forgetting now the highest peak

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in in africa in tanzania kilimanjaro So I did

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Kilimanjaro with him, and I've done a lot of

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my climbing. We did Kings Peak in Utah, did Rainier

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with him. If you talk to him and you say, hey,

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what was the hardest you've ever done? And you're

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thinking Everest? And he's like, no, not Everest.

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Denali? Denali. Yeah, I've heard that. So he

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has three sons, and I've been talking to two

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of them and saying, hey, you know. Let's do Denali

00:20:45.309 --> 00:20:47.369
together because I've climbed with them quite

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a bit with my other son. And those guys are beasts

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themselves. And normally Roscoe would be like,

00:20:54.430 --> 00:20:56.230
all right, yeah, I'll go with you guys. But I

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was like, hey, you should come with us. He's

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like, I will never go back to Denali again. Wow.

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Yeah. Okay. And number two is not even Everest.

00:21:06.529 --> 00:21:10.230
Number two is K2. K2, yeah. Yeah, he said Denali,

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K2, then Everest were the toughest. It was nothing

00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:18.059
for me. I mean, I kind of did that on a Sunday

00:21:18.059 --> 00:21:21.380
after not training too hard for it. That's insane,

00:21:21.460 --> 00:21:25.400
though. So how did you get into this? And you

00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:27.880
ever fuck around with free climbing? Because

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I watched some of that shit, and that's insane.

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As a matter of fact, Chad and I kind of bonded

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over our love of climbing. He was an avid rock

00:21:36.980 --> 00:21:40.450
climber. I was. you know not not so like free

00:21:40.450 --> 00:21:42.190
solo nothing like that we always have groups

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and and everything so we did a lot of climbing

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in oregon i met chad in uh let's see 1994 i believe

00:21:48.829 --> 00:21:56.829
hey now yeah so the year yeah we uh chad was

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uh dating one of my really good friends probably

00:22:00.130 --> 00:22:02.450
one of my best friends from high school go chad

00:22:02.450 --> 00:22:05.529
and he ended up getting married to her wow and

00:22:05.529 --> 00:22:09.079
we're first Yeah, his first ex. Fortunately,

00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:10.960
I have two. I'm not going for three. Anyway,

00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:13.920
go ahead. We're still really good friends, both

00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:18.220
of us, so Chad and his ex. She's a wonderful

00:22:18.220 --> 00:22:20.500
person. I love her to death. How did you not

00:22:20.500 --> 00:22:22.480
have to pick sides there, Eric? You normally

00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:27.259
have to pick. Well, it wasn't crazy acrimonious

00:22:27.259 --> 00:22:29.420
when we broke up. Yeah, it wasn't like that.

00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:34.240
It was just kind of, hey, it's working out. And

00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:36.000
they didn't have any children together. Right.

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But yeah, so we lived in – my wife and I had

00:22:39.119 --> 00:22:44.579
moved to Oregon, and we were living, gosh, in

00:22:44.579 --> 00:22:46.799
McMinnville. And then we moved to Portland, and

00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:49.960
we were close. We lived close to Chad and his

00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:52.619
first ex. Tell them what you did when you were

00:22:52.619 --> 00:22:55.339
in Oregon when I met you. You were the – what

00:22:55.339 --> 00:22:59.740
were you? The avocado ambassador? Yeah, I was

00:22:59.740 --> 00:23:02.880
like – yeah, so I was – I'm in the IT industry

00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:08.769
now. And so in 94, you know, I guess when I graduated

00:23:08.769 --> 00:23:12.490
from school, I have a bachelor's in film. And

00:23:12.490 --> 00:23:15.369
so I tried that for a spell and I just was like,

00:23:15.410 --> 00:23:17.369
you know, I'm not going to pay my dues. And so

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I started working for a company selling, you

00:23:20.509 --> 00:23:23.630
know, the original computers. And then I started

00:23:23.630 --> 00:23:27.809
working for another guy who was selling URL domain

00:23:27.809 --> 00:23:31.670
names. And we were selling it for $10 ,000 a

00:23:31.670 --> 00:23:35.240
piece. Because I had found a guy in Oregon, in

00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:37.940
Portland, at an ISP called Teleport. And he knew

00:23:37.940 --> 00:23:42.240
how to register them. And so we registered like

00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:46.019
Nike, Nike Play, Cheesecake .com, Dripers. And

00:23:46.019 --> 00:23:49.119
one of them was Simplot. So Simplot is one of

00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:53.259
the largest producers of avocados. And they were

00:23:53.259 --> 00:23:55.319
like, okay, now what do we do with this URL?

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And so we said, hey, we can do this whole thing

00:24:00.339 --> 00:24:03.650
around. pick a product. They do potatoes. They're

00:24:03.650 --> 00:24:06.170
huge in Idaho. And so they said, well, let's

00:24:06.170 --> 00:24:09.109
do something around avocados. So we produced

00:24:09.109 --> 00:24:13.230
a newsletter and a basic HTML website for avocados.

00:24:13.430 --> 00:24:16.450
And so I guess I became the avocado ambassador.

00:24:16.990 --> 00:24:19.190
You told me more about avocados than I wanted

00:24:19.190 --> 00:24:21.150
to know. I'm like, okay, I know a lot about avocados.

00:24:21.930 --> 00:24:24.150
Eric, did you ever see that? Did you ever see

00:24:24.150 --> 00:24:27.529
Portlandia and Fred Amundsen? Yeah, I watched

00:24:27.529 --> 00:24:30.099
the first season. I didn't see like... the second

00:24:30.099 --> 00:24:32.440
season or something well there's one i don't

00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:34.359
know what season it is but there's one episode

00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:36.579
where they're doing this whole thing where they

00:24:36.579 --> 00:24:39.000
like each each person represents a vegetable

00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:41.339
so they're like we got to bring broccoli up to

00:24:41.339 --> 00:24:43.339
the forefront here you know it's then this you

00:24:43.339 --> 00:24:45.660
just reminded me of that was saying we got to

00:24:45.660 --> 00:24:47.880
get these avocados out here we got them we got

00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:49.640
an avocado guy that's going to push these out

00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:52.759
that's funny maybe they're talking about me maybe

00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:55.920
yeah no i i uh i haven't seen that episode i

00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:58.119
always joke with my wife i you know we always

00:24:58.119 --> 00:25:00.140
say cacao If you've ever seen that in Portland,

00:25:00.140 --> 00:25:03.960
it's just a funny thing. Not, you know, not that

00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:06.039
that goes on, but it's just one of those, you

00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:08.940
know, funny things. There are a lot of things

00:25:08.940 --> 00:25:10.980
you could do with avocado besides eat them. I

00:25:10.980 --> 00:25:14.500
know the seeds, they like use them to make like

00:25:14.500 --> 00:25:18.079
cutting boards and like real cool shit with them.

00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:19.539
Have you ever heard of stuff like that, Eric,

00:25:19.579 --> 00:25:23.180
or were you just into the fruit part of it, the

00:25:23.180 --> 00:25:27.660
food part of it? Yeah. probably you know back

00:25:27.660 --> 00:25:29.839
then it was just the the fruit the flesh part

00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:32.880
of it um yeah i know you know avocado oil and

00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:36.140
all that but you know this was it was 1994 so

00:25:36.140 --> 00:25:39.880
how long ago is that fucking years 30 yeah oh

00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:43.839
my god 30 years crazy old yeah so we yeah that

00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:46.539
was that was great times because uh you know

00:25:46.539 --> 00:25:48.779
i first met chad you know they were just kind

00:25:48.779 --> 00:25:52.920
of taken off and his ex was like oh yeah i'm

00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:56.119
dating you know this guy from the band live.

00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:58.200
I was like, I don't know if I've heard of them.

00:25:58.900 --> 00:26:01.019
And she said, you have, there's a song called

00:26:01.019 --> 00:26:02.940
pain lies on the Riverside on the radio. You've

00:26:02.940 --> 00:26:05.160
heard that. And I said, oh yeah. I said, they

00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:08.160
kind of sound like REM. And she was like, about

00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:11.599
took my head off. Really? Yeah. Big influence.

00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:14.240
That's funny. Yeah. She's like, they're not REM.

00:26:14.339 --> 00:26:17.940
It's just defensive, you know, make sure I said,

00:26:17.980 --> 00:26:20.339
but anyways, I was like, oh, cool. I want to

00:26:20.339 --> 00:26:23.200
meet him. And then you moved out right to Portland.

00:26:24.379 --> 00:26:27.759
Yes, I was – yeah, she was in that apartment

00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:31.119
in Southeast, and then I moved – well, I bought

00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:35.539
the house in – what's it, 95? 95 is – yeah, what

00:26:35.539 --> 00:26:39.660
happened was MTV Unplugged happened. Right. And

00:26:39.660 --> 00:26:44.599
that was like – that was like the big, big boost

00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:47.940
you guys needed. Yeah. And Chad bought this beautiful

00:26:47.940 --> 00:26:50.400
house. It was Frank Lloyd Wright -influenced.

00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:53.630
Yes. what part of the neighborhood is southeast

00:26:53.630 --> 00:26:56.609
the southeast yeah right off hawthorne yeah off

00:26:56.609 --> 00:26:58.470
of hawthorne yeah it was one of the most beautiful

00:26:58.470 --> 00:27:01.430
homes i've ever seen and it was like yeah and

00:27:01.430 --> 00:27:03.390
then the way that they both decorated it was

00:27:03.390 --> 00:27:06.690
like man this is my ideal like it was cool it

00:27:06.690 --> 00:27:09.990
was kind of like a french influence decorated

00:27:09.990 --> 00:27:13.289
yeah we had you know back then i could i hired

00:27:13.289 --> 00:27:15.390
interior designer and we remodeled the whole

00:27:15.390 --> 00:27:17.769
fucking house and you know made it all yeah to

00:27:17.769 --> 00:27:20.630
the studs it was nice i liked i love that house

00:27:20.630 --> 00:27:22.630
but And I was like, I'm going to move to Orange

00:27:22.630 --> 00:27:27.390
County. Yeah. You got to look on Google Earth

00:27:27.390 --> 00:27:29.829
and see what they did to the house. So you remember

00:27:29.829 --> 00:27:35.170
it had the big side yard? Yes. So they took that

00:27:35.170 --> 00:27:38.109
side yard. Remember, it had the library area

00:27:38.109 --> 00:27:40.710
with the knotty pine. That's where I hung out

00:27:40.710 --> 00:27:43.029
the most. They fucking lopped that off the house.

00:27:43.369 --> 00:27:46.069
They took the lot, and they put a house right

00:27:46.069 --> 00:27:50.250
beside it. Oh, wow. Between the side street and

00:27:50.250 --> 00:27:51.910
the house, they put a house in there. There was

00:27:51.910 --> 00:27:55.150
enough room for that? They did it. Yeah. Oh,

00:27:55.190 --> 00:27:58.049
wow. It had to be a small house. It's just like

00:27:58.049 --> 00:28:00.549
a three -story condo kind of looking thing, like

00:28:00.549 --> 00:28:02.809
a townhouse looking thing. Oh, jeez. But now

00:28:02.809 --> 00:28:05.769
they share a driveway with the main house, and

00:28:05.769 --> 00:28:09.069
it's like, wow, that sucks. Yeah. So they're

00:28:09.069 --> 00:28:11.490
making money off of that little house. It's probably

00:28:11.490 --> 00:28:14.190
like the ADU thing maybe, like California has

00:28:14.190 --> 00:28:18.650
an ADU. What's ADU? ADU is where you can take

00:28:18.650 --> 00:28:21.430
– like if you have a property and build a home

00:28:21.430 --> 00:28:24.730
on it, and you can basically take it and separate

00:28:24.730 --> 00:28:29.650
that from your ownership and sell it. I think

00:28:29.650 --> 00:28:32.609
that may have been what they did. Right. They

00:28:32.609 --> 00:28:34.430
probably did something similar to that. Yep,

00:28:34.430 --> 00:28:37.829
broke up the plot. Got to be something to give

00:28:37.829 --> 00:28:43.549
illegal immigrants homes. Yeah, maybe, but you're

00:28:43.549 --> 00:28:47.880
in a – sharing like at my house now chad chad

00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:50.339
and i live near each other in orange county and

00:28:50.339 --> 00:28:52.759
so he's been in my house many times so that we

00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:55.279
have a little casita in the back and what i've

00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:57.819
heard is you can you know take that and sell

00:28:57.819 --> 00:29:01.799
it basically really okay wow so at the end of

00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:03.859
our driveway we had someone come up and say hey

00:29:03.859 --> 00:29:05.839
i can put an adu right there at the end of your

00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:08.980
driveway with the garage like a kind of condo

00:29:08.980 --> 00:29:11.039
looking thing right i was like yeah no i'm not

00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:14.490
interested no thanks Got to really like those

00:29:14.490 --> 00:29:16.410
people that move in. Otherwise you got to take

00:29:16.410 --> 00:29:19.630
care of them. Exactly. In your backyard. Share

00:29:19.630 --> 00:29:24.869
on your driveway and stuff. No, thanks. So here's

00:29:24.869 --> 00:29:27.329
my thing. So getting back to your climbing, Eric,

00:29:27.410 --> 00:29:29.309
because I'm just like fascinated by this because

00:29:29.309 --> 00:29:32.890
you seem to do IT. So that's kind of like a boring

00:29:32.890 --> 00:29:36.410
part of life. And then you do this crazy adrenaline

00:29:36.410 --> 00:29:40.049
stuff on the side and you got to train to do

00:29:40.049 --> 00:29:45.380
all this stuff. what's the driving force behind

00:29:45.380 --> 00:29:47.880
this is it is it the sights that you get up there

00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:49.980
is it really adrenaline that's going through

00:29:49.980 --> 00:29:52.099
your body that you like uh to do this like what

00:29:52.099 --> 00:29:55.180
what makes you want to do all this cool cool

00:29:55.180 --> 00:29:59.079
shit well i think it kind of started back you

00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:02.059
know in college and i always like to hike and

00:30:02.059 --> 00:30:05.579
i love the outdoors right so you know being in

00:30:05.579 --> 00:30:08.119
in it industry and behind a desk and you know

00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:09.940
on a computer and stuff and you know it's it

00:30:09.940 --> 00:30:15.450
gets you know kind of boring and so um i i ran

00:30:15.450 --> 00:30:17.930
into my friend roscoe one time at a fourth of

00:30:17.930 --> 00:30:21.509
july party you know probably 20 years ago he's

00:30:21.509 --> 00:30:23.690
like hey we should take our boys and go climb

00:30:23.690 --> 00:30:28.450
kilimanjaro and i was like uh okay and so i think

00:30:28.450 --> 00:30:30.849
that kind of kicked off like you know really

00:30:30.849 --> 00:30:34.130
wanting to do mountain climbing because if that's

00:30:34.130 --> 00:30:36.990
one thing that you know i recommend for everyone

00:30:36.990 --> 00:30:39.569
to do if they have any like inkling for hiking

00:30:39.569 --> 00:30:42.980
is to climb killing it's just awesome i mean

00:30:42.980 --> 00:30:45.700
you go from jungle where there's monkeys running

00:30:45.700 --> 00:30:49.160
around all the way up to you know 19 000 plus

00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:52.339
i think it's 19 six something feet where it looks

00:30:52.339 --> 00:30:56.279
like mars i mean wow it's 20 degrees and the

00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:00.420
you know you it takes six days minimum to acclimate

00:31:00.420 --> 00:31:03.880
and climb so you zigzag the mountain as you acclimate

00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.869
you climb high sleep low And it's just, you know,

00:31:07.869 --> 00:31:10.029
you get away from phones, you get away from computers,

00:31:10.150 --> 00:31:12.630
you know, you do with your friends or your children.

00:31:13.509 --> 00:31:16.190
And it's just great, you know, bonding. And then

00:31:16.190 --> 00:31:19.069
the, I think the best thing, and that would,

00:31:19.130 --> 00:31:22.509
I have one son that, you know, always, you know,

00:31:22.509 --> 00:31:25.089
goes off ahead. And I tell all my kids, I said,

00:31:25.170 --> 00:31:28.450
you can climb alone ahead, but don't summit alone.

00:31:28.549 --> 00:31:32.349
That's not cool. I think it's just, you know,

00:31:32.390 --> 00:31:35.349
the achievement. And, you know, making it because

00:31:35.349 --> 00:31:38.069
it's tough, you know, it's there. It's really

00:31:38.069 --> 00:31:41.410
tough to do, you know, and then just being outside

00:31:41.410 --> 00:31:46.509
and to train it. It's difficult because I live

00:31:46.509 --> 00:31:48.750
at sea level. I live in San Clemente, California.

00:31:49.470 --> 00:31:52.190
And so I have to do a little bit extra. So I'm

00:31:52.190 --> 00:31:54.789
usually hiking. I have hills behind my house.

00:31:55.150 --> 00:31:59.670
And so I'm out seven days a week, you know, back

00:31:59.670 --> 00:32:04.369
in the hills. Yeah. And I try to. I try to go

00:32:04.369 --> 00:32:07.109
up and down like this really steep hill probably

00:32:07.109 --> 00:32:10.269
three or four times a day. And then when I –

00:32:10.269 --> 00:32:13.829
we have another home in Utah. And so when I'm

00:32:13.829 --> 00:32:16.990
there, I'm usually there sometimes once a month.

00:32:17.190 --> 00:32:22.630
And so I'll go up and hike all over in the canyons

00:32:22.630 --> 00:32:24.970
and behind my house. In fact, one of my favorite

00:32:24.970 --> 00:32:28.109
hiking places is right behind Post Malone's house.

00:32:28.230 --> 00:32:32.200
He's probably about a quarter mile from me. He's

00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:34.559
got a nice setup out there. I'm sure he does.

00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:37.160
You're going to start tattooing your face to

00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:41.140
look like your neighbor? I don't think so. Tattoos

00:32:41.140 --> 00:32:47.420
are not my thing. Have you done Whitney? I have

00:32:47.420 --> 00:32:49.559
not done Whitney. I got a permit. You have to

00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:52.079
have a permit. Now it's a lottery. Oh, yeah.

00:32:52.420 --> 00:32:57.319
So every year I apply for the lottery and I got

00:32:57.319 --> 00:33:02.269
one during, it was, I think. COVID. And they

00:33:02.269 --> 00:33:05.549
were still allowing people to go, but then there

00:33:05.549 --> 00:33:11.130
was those fires up there. So they canceled everyone's

00:33:11.130 --> 00:33:19.710
permits. I thought permits were for hunting or

00:33:19.710 --> 00:33:21.029
something. You need to permit just the hike.

00:33:21.309 --> 00:33:23.450
Well, some of the mountains. Some of the mountains.

00:33:23.589 --> 00:33:26.230
There's just too many people. And Whitney's one

00:33:26.230 --> 00:33:29.750
of them. A lot of people want to do Whitney,

00:33:29.829 --> 00:33:32.089
so they... They have a lottery system to get

00:33:32.089 --> 00:33:34.150
a permit and stuff. It's the highest peak in

00:33:34.150 --> 00:33:36.170
the state, and it's really accessible. You can

00:33:36.170 --> 00:33:39.450
just drive over there. I mean, not really accessible,

00:33:39.569 --> 00:33:42.690
but it's easy to get to. Yeah, so it's near Bishop.

00:33:43.230 --> 00:33:48.549
And then you can go from Whitney Portal. It's

00:33:48.549 --> 00:33:51.390
a tough one. Are there people out there checking

00:33:51.390 --> 00:33:54.230
your permit to make sure you're permitted? Yeah.

00:33:54.230 --> 00:33:59.210
Oh, really? Absolutely. We need the papers. Yeah,

00:33:59.230 --> 00:34:03.150
give me some peppers. But I don't just do the

00:34:03.150 --> 00:34:07.930
highest peaks. I just got back from doing a backpacking

00:34:07.930 --> 00:34:11.010
trip through the Canyonlands in Utah, and that's

00:34:11.010 --> 00:34:13.289
another one I go. I go twice a year, minimum,

00:34:13.309 --> 00:34:16.449
with a bunch of friends, Roscoe included. And

00:34:16.449 --> 00:34:20.329
so we saw something called the Citadel. It's

00:34:20.329 --> 00:34:24.510
like a – it's basically – they think it's a military

00:34:24.510 --> 00:34:27.369
installation for the Native Americans. oh it's

00:34:27.369 --> 00:34:31.550
not too tough to get to and then we also um we

00:34:31.550 --> 00:34:34.409
also went and saw the perfect kiva keep is like

00:34:34.409 --> 00:34:37.710
a ceremonial thing oh nice and it's they call

00:34:37.710 --> 00:34:39.489
it the perfect kiva because it's undisturbed

00:34:39.489 --> 00:34:42.110
it's really hard to get to and then we've seen

00:34:42.110 --> 00:34:44.909
all american man if you google that that's like

00:34:44.909 --> 00:34:48.530
crazy and um you know we did that in 105 degree

00:34:48.530 --> 00:34:52.250
weather and it was 14 miles and oh my yeah so

00:34:52.250 --> 00:34:55.820
there's a lot of places in Utah to go see in

00:34:55.820 --> 00:34:59.679
October. Chad, you're invited again. I was invited.

00:35:00.219 --> 00:35:02.960
We're going to see the Moon House. Oh, the Moon

00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:07.699
House. What's that? It's another Native American.

00:35:07.780 --> 00:35:09.500
You have to have a permit, so we got some permits.

00:35:09.860 --> 00:35:15.079
They basically, inside this rock, what do you

00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:19.119
call it? It's like a dwelling. Native Americans

00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:21.030
painted the phases of the moon. And they think

00:35:21.030 --> 00:35:25.730
it's because for the harvest. Oh, okay. So to

00:35:25.730 --> 00:35:28.210
watch, so that inside they've got the phase of

00:35:28.210 --> 00:35:30.550
the moon. They think that they are watching like,

00:35:30.570 --> 00:35:33.369
you know, when to plant stuff. Oh, wow. Interesting.

00:35:33.550 --> 00:35:37.130
Wow. It's in bear's ear. It's amazing how they

00:35:37.130 --> 00:35:41.750
knew. Size of Rhode Island. Canyonlands, I think

00:35:41.750 --> 00:35:43.570
is a little bit bigger than Rhode Island. It's

00:35:43.570 --> 00:35:48.260
big. So are you packing your food for those six,

00:35:48.300 --> 00:35:50.599
like a six -day trip? Like what are you eating

00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:55.820
on this summit of these peaks? Is it good food?

00:35:56.019 --> 00:35:57.920
Are you eating well? Are you just kind of packing

00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:04.460
light? Steak and shrimp. So it all varies. If

00:36:04.460 --> 00:36:07.460
we're backpacking ourselves, yeah, we pack in.

00:36:07.500 --> 00:36:10.880
So I basically just will take like a gallon bag

00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:16.329
and Ziploc. And I do lunch is usually just snacks.

00:36:16.449 --> 00:36:18.110
And my favorite thing to do is like those little

00:36:18.110 --> 00:36:22.789
chicken salad things that come. Oh, yeah. Oh,

00:36:22.829 --> 00:36:24.630
yeah. With crackers. Bumblebee, I think, makes

00:36:24.630 --> 00:36:26.789
them. And I'll do that. And then jerky and, you

00:36:26.789 --> 00:36:30.050
know, trail mix or whatever. And so I'll do that

00:36:30.050 --> 00:36:32.530
for lunch and maybe a bar for breakfast. And

00:36:32.530 --> 00:36:34.829
then we usually do those prepared meals like

00:36:34.829 --> 00:36:37.750
Mountain House or something like that. Breeze

00:36:37.750 --> 00:36:39.809
dried stuff. Yeah. Breeze dried stuff. We'll,

00:36:39.809 --> 00:36:41.650
you know, cook it, bring enough water. And we

00:36:41.650 --> 00:36:44.559
always carry pumps, water pumps. So that we can,

00:36:44.579 --> 00:36:47.840
you know, pump out our water from, you know,

00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:52.500
rivers or streams. Wow. But on Kilimanjaro, you

00:36:52.500 --> 00:36:56.639
basically, you have porters. And so they carry

00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:58.219
most of your stuff. You're usually in like a

00:36:58.219 --> 00:37:01.900
30 liter backpack. And then they cook for you

00:37:01.900 --> 00:37:04.760
the whole time. It's actually pretty deluxe.

00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:09.780
Look at you, dude. This is the like glamping,

00:37:09.780 --> 00:37:15.510
like the glamified. kind of glamping nice and

00:37:15.510 --> 00:37:18.929
it's it's relatively easy right i mean there's

00:37:18.929 --> 00:37:22.030
no other than the altitude it's not like it's

00:37:22.030 --> 00:37:24.530
there's great glaciers and stuff to cross right

00:37:24.530 --> 00:37:29.309
is that correct um yeah there there's yeah and

00:37:29.309 --> 00:37:31.510
the altitude is rough and that's what kind of

00:37:31.510 --> 00:37:37.289
hurts people um is the altitude and so uh i think

00:37:37.289 --> 00:37:39.929
it has a 40 achievement rate it's mostly because

00:37:39.929 --> 00:37:42.639
altitude and i've never i've never experience

00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.139
altitude sickness i've got you know kind of a

00:37:45.139 --> 00:37:48.300
cool thing going on right i don't have that that's

00:37:48.300 --> 00:37:51.599
good and it's the cold and so uh you do an alpine

00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:53.860
start and if you're not familiar with that an

00:37:53.860 --> 00:37:57.280
alpine start is when you uh basically leave in

00:37:57.280 --> 00:37:59.980
the middle of the night and with headlamps and

00:37:59.980 --> 00:38:02.239
so on kilimanjaro you have to leave and rainier

00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:06.260
you have to leave at like 11 p .m and you basically

00:38:06.260 --> 00:38:09.949
climb uh all night long And they do that like

00:38:09.949 --> 00:38:12.250
on Rainier because of the glaciers. It heats

00:38:12.250 --> 00:38:14.750
up too much during the day and you can't get

00:38:14.750 --> 00:38:19.550
up and back on Rainier. And, you know, it takes

00:38:19.550 --> 00:38:24.050
about eight to 10 hours. Wow. And so this with

00:38:24.050 --> 00:38:26.570
Kilimanjaro, you know, you can't be up there.

00:38:26.670 --> 00:38:30.210
We summited and we stayed for maybe 25, 30 minutes

00:38:30.210 --> 00:38:34.110
because it's so cold. Jeez. Interesting. But

00:38:34.110 --> 00:38:39.070
yeah, so you Alpine start and you go up. And

00:38:39.070 --> 00:38:42.409
the crazy thing is you're following a guide,

00:38:42.570 --> 00:38:46.010
and you can see everyone in front of you because

00:38:46.010 --> 00:38:47.690
you all have headlamps, but it's pitch black.

00:38:47.969 --> 00:38:50.110
And then all of a sudden, you get about halfway,

00:38:50.250 --> 00:38:52.650
and you see these zombie -looking people with

00:38:52.650 --> 00:38:55.170
headlamps stumbling down because they couldn't

00:38:55.170 --> 00:38:57.090
make it. And you're like, oh, man, I hope that's

00:38:57.090 --> 00:39:01.230
not going to happen to me. Right. And you're

00:39:01.230 --> 00:39:05.269
like freaking out. Could you see crazy stars

00:39:05.269 --> 00:39:07.389
from there? I mean, it had to be. It started

00:39:07.389 --> 00:39:08.869
out to be amazing, right? Because there's no

00:39:08.869 --> 00:39:12.070
light pollution there. Yeah. Yeah. And the flora

00:39:12.070 --> 00:39:15.510
and fauna on Kili is like incredible. I saw things,

00:39:15.650 --> 00:39:17.070
you know, you see things you've never seen in

00:39:17.070 --> 00:39:21.150
your life. You know, it's just, it's cool. And,

00:39:21.230 --> 00:39:25.050
you know, we only had one real experience with

00:39:25.050 --> 00:39:28.650
altitude sickness. There was a friend from college

00:39:28.650 --> 00:39:31.110
and her daughter were with us and her daughter,

00:39:31.150 --> 00:39:35.289
we get to Stella Point, which is about 18 ,000

00:39:35.289 --> 00:39:38.550
feet. and it has a sign, and the snow is coming

00:39:38.550 --> 00:39:40.530
down sideways, and it's pitch black, and you

00:39:40.530 --> 00:39:44.230
only have headlamps. And she sits down, and we're

00:39:44.230 --> 00:39:46.829
like, Morgan, what are you doing? And she's like,

00:39:46.909 --> 00:39:48.469
oh, I'm cold. I've got to put on more socks.

00:39:48.610 --> 00:39:51.349
And I'm like, no, no, no. Get up. We've got to

00:39:51.349 --> 00:39:54.949
go. So she just kind of got that altitude sickness

00:39:54.949 --> 00:39:57.550
going, and she sat down, took her boots off,

00:39:57.590 --> 00:40:00.510
and starts putting socks on. Whoa. And so everyone

00:40:00.510 --> 00:40:02.349
kind of like huddles around her. We're like,

00:40:02.510 --> 00:40:06.360
what are we going to do? Right. So luckily she

00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:09.920
got back up and kept going. What was the plan

00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:13.659
if she faltered? To eat her alive if necessary?

00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:19.440
We were up with three guides. And so what's funny

00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:24.239
is this one guy, he had this thermos. And he

00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:27.159
also carries oxygen. We didn't need any. He had

00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:32.289
the thermos and he gives her this. you know stuff

00:40:32.289 --> 00:40:33.849
i don't know what it was i didn't try it ever

00:40:33.849 --> 00:40:37.230
i think he called it like mother's milk or something

00:40:37.230 --> 00:40:40.909
funny that's heroin and she he gives it to her

00:40:40.909 --> 00:40:43.130
and it was hot and she's drinking it and they

00:40:43.130 --> 00:40:44.710
lift up her shirt and he starts rubbing her belly

00:40:44.710 --> 00:40:49.869
really fast and i was like oh boy crazy but it

00:40:49.869 --> 00:40:53.050
got her going whatever it was i don't know and

00:40:53.050 --> 00:40:55.090
i asked her i said what was that that you gave

00:40:55.090 --> 00:40:58.409
me i was like it tasted like hot tea Or probably

00:40:58.409 --> 00:41:01.150
some alcohol in it. Some warm alcohol. Get your

00:41:01.150 --> 00:41:05.170
body acclimated. Well, none of us drink, so it

00:41:05.170 --> 00:41:07.909
wouldn't be good if they gave her alcohol. You're

00:41:07.909 --> 00:41:11.630
no fun. I forgot. I'm a lot of fun, man. He's

00:41:11.630 --> 00:41:15.750
a lot of fun. Do you have aspirations to do Everest?

00:41:16.489 --> 00:41:19.469
No. I would probably do base camp if I found

00:41:19.469 --> 00:41:21.630
some people. I have a buddy who went to base

00:41:21.630 --> 00:41:24.289
camp, and he said that was amazing. I think base

00:41:24.289 --> 00:41:27.530
camp would be fun, but I don't know. everest

00:41:27.530 --> 00:41:29.929
is fucking insane you just every year you see

00:41:29.929 --> 00:41:31.849
people die up there it's just and then you know

00:41:31.849 --> 00:41:34.769
you get to a point where no one can help you

00:41:34.769 --> 00:41:38.070
so if you if you sit down that's it you're out

00:41:38.070 --> 00:41:42.789
and i just have like zero desire to do that yeah

00:41:42.789 --> 00:41:44.909
i mean i do it mostly for the social part and

00:41:44.909 --> 00:41:48.030
like hanging out with my kids and i'm not like

00:41:48.030 --> 00:41:52.110
you know i don't know yeah everest is not a hangout

00:41:52.110 --> 00:41:54.519
it's a friggin You got your life in your hands

00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:57.579
the whole time. Yeah. And you need like to do

00:41:57.579 --> 00:42:01.380
it probably three months. Right. Really? Oh yeah.

00:42:01.380 --> 00:42:03.480
And now it's so crowded. It's like, it's just,

00:42:03.500 --> 00:42:05.639
it's a traffic jam every, every season. It's

00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:08.679
just so ridiculous. Wow. Yeah. Denali is a minimum

00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:12.500
of 21 days. Jesus. You have to. Yeah. So we,

00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:16.420
we go with a company called RMI and yeah, on

00:42:16.420 --> 00:42:21.079
their websites, 21 days. So did Roscoe describe

00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:25.300
why Denali is so much harder than, say, Everest?

00:42:25.739 --> 00:42:29.099
Yeah, it's just super technical. Okay, so there's

00:42:29.099 --> 00:42:32.099
a lot more climbing. Yeah, because on Rainier,

00:42:32.179 --> 00:42:35.500
you rope in with three other people, and so you're

00:42:35.500 --> 00:42:38.860
crossing ladders. So we cross crevasses. A lot

00:42:38.860 --> 00:42:40.519
of people say that Rainier is a good training

00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:42.980
ground for Everest because you're doing a lot

00:42:42.980 --> 00:42:45.579
of the same things. Yeah, but all the ladders

00:42:45.579 --> 00:42:49.280
on Everest are kind of far down. in the Khumbu

00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:51.440
Icefall, right? You have base camp, and then

00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:54.000
the first camp is above the Khumbu Icefall, so

00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:56.059
you have to go above that. Once you're over the

00:42:56.059 --> 00:42:58.659
Khumbu Icefall, then there's not a lot of glaciation,

00:42:58.659 --> 00:43:01.659
a lot of crevasses and stuff on the way up to

00:43:01.659 --> 00:43:04.000
Everest, but it's still dangerous as well. Yeah,

00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:05.500
it rained here, and we probably crossed three

00:43:05.500 --> 00:43:09.500
or four ladders. It wasn't too bad. But at night,

00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:13.019
because we were going up at night, it was a lot

00:43:13.019 --> 00:43:15.619
easier because you can't see anything. All you

00:43:15.619 --> 00:43:17.730
can see is the ladder. on the way down i was

00:43:17.730 --> 00:43:20.489
like oh holy crap i just i crossed that in the

00:43:20.489 --> 00:43:22.750
middle of the night oh my god you know like a

00:43:22.750 --> 00:43:25.150
crevice it's like super deep and i was like oh

00:43:25.150 --> 00:43:29.989
boy oh my god dude my palms are sweaty just listening

00:43:29.989 --> 00:43:32.429
but that's not my number one my number one hobby

00:43:32.429 --> 00:43:36.050
skiing i ski a lot i got 19 days in last year

00:43:36.050 --> 00:43:38.849
i'm hoping to do about 25 days this year i'll

00:43:38.849 --> 00:43:40.510
tell what happened to you a few years ago with

00:43:40.510 --> 00:43:44.469
your skiing oh yes so in 2010 i broke my neck

00:43:44.469 --> 00:43:50.210
at snowbird Oh my God, dude. I broke C6 and I

00:43:50.210 --> 00:43:55.130
fractured C6 and I broke C7. And that's the nerve

00:43:55.130 --> 00:43:58.789
bundle to your right arm. So I paralyzed my right

00:43:58.789 --> 00:44:02.030
arm. I don't know if you've ever slept on your

00:44:02.030 --> 00:44:03.889
arm. Funny, you wake up and it's like a limpy

00:44:03.889 --> 00:44:07.010
arm. Yeah. That's what happened. I was like,

00:44:07.090 --> 00:44:10.050
wow, it's good now. I mean, I've got, what's

00:44:10.050 --> 00:44:13.989
weird is these four fingers here are always a

00:44:13.989 --> 00:44:17.300
little bit. kind of tingly but my pinky is fine

00:44:17.300 --> 00:44:21.539
that's nothing but if i like do too much with

00:44:21.539 --> 00:44:25.980
my right arm it gets it gets a little numb but

00:44:25.980 --> 00:44:30.139
uh it's you know i was just being stupid i shouldn't

00:44:30.139 --> 00:44:32.719
have been doing what i was doing and i was 40

00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:35.699
years old so it's just dumb so what happened

00:44:35.699 --> 00:44:37.659
how did you still feel like you're young going

00:44:37.659 --> 00:44:39.920
down the mountain just lost control and then

00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:44.059
no you know i went to school in utah so i worked

00:44:44.059 --> 00:44:48.420
at a ski resort for two years. My dad was a ski

00:44:48.420 --> 00:44:50.159
instructor growing up. I've been skiing since

00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:52.800
I was three. When you hit a certain age, you

00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:56.400
shouldn't get airborne anymore. I had some friends

00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:59.239
that still live in Utah that were seasoned pass

00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:02.380
holders at Snowbird. I had no business following

00:45:02.380 --> 00:45:05.099
them. One of them said, hey, let's go jump into

00:45:05.099 --> 00:45:09.139
that half pipe that's half built. I was like,

00:45:09.260 --> 00:45:12.619
okay, you go first. We did it once. It's fine.

00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.920
Second time, You know, he's like, all right,

00:45:15.940 --> 00:45:18.019
let's do that again. It was later in the day.

00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:19.739
I was like, all right, you go first. He's like,

00:45:19.820 --> 00:45:21.400
yeah, but we've got to clear the tabletop. And

00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:24.719
I was like, all right, go. So he goes down. He

00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:28.739
jumps it and hits the back end of the tabletop

00:45:28.739 --> 00:45:31.400
and drops in. I was like, oh, what a wuss. So,

00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:34.119
man, that's the famous last words. I go flying

00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:38.860
down there and I go up, jump. I scratch, do a

00:45:38.860 --> 00:45:41.059
back scratch. And I was like thinking I was going

00:45:41.059 --> 00:45:42.679
to do a 180. And I was like, no, I better not

00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:47.460
do that. And when I landed, I hit perfectly,

00:45:47.659 --> 00:45:51.920
but I went in probably 12 inches of snow and

00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:55.239
it popped me out of my skis. And before I could

00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:57.960
put my hands out in front of me, I hit head first

00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:02.539
and snapped my neck forward. And I felt it. I

00:46:02.539 --> 00:46:04.659
mean, I didn't lose consciousness, but I felt

00:46:04.659 --> 00:46:08.420
that I could hear a crack, feel it. And I was

00:46:08.420 --> 00:46:11.320
like, oh, that's not good. And so I flopped over

00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:16.440
and I went to sit up. And like electric pulse

00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:18.340
goes down my right arm. I was like, oh, it's

00:46:18.340 --> 00:46:20.420
really not good. And then I couldn't move it.

00:46:20.460 --> 00:46:23.800
I was like, I can't move my arm. Oh, my God.

00:46:24.139 --> 00:46:26.900
I can laugh it out now. Yeah, it must have been

00:46:26.900 --> 00:46:29.619
scary as freaking hell. It was scary. And I wiggled

00:46:29.619 --> 00:46:31.059
my legs because you always hear if you break

00:46:31.059 --> 00:46:33.360
your neck, you lose your legs. But I didn't lose

00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:37.079
my legs. I lost my right arm. Wow. And so the

00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:41.559
ski patrol came. And what happened was they had

00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:44.559
been blowing snow. to make the half pipe bigger

00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:47.500
all day and it was blocked off at the top but

00:46:47.500 --> 00:46:49.300
it wasn't on the side so we didn't know they

00:46:49.300 --> 00:46:51.300
were blowing snow so what happened is i hit snow

00:46:51.300 --> 00:46:54.619
deep snow and popped me out but when i got to

00:46:54.619 --> 00:46:58.059
the hospital the uh they rushed me into give

00:46:58.059 --> 00:47:02.519
me you know i was on you know mri and i was in

00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:04.960
trauma center all that kind of stuff and the

00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:09.039
the uh surgeon comes in and he was like look

00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:12.719
you broke your neck You've damaged the nerve

00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:14.840
bundle to your right arm. That's why you can't

00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:17.400
feel it. I was like, all right, well, what are

00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:18.559
you doing? He's like, oh, we got to give you

00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:23.460
surgery. And so they went in and fixed that,

00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:27.579
fused six and seven together. And I asked him,

00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:29.280
I said, hey, you know, am I going to be able

00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:33.599
to feel my right arm? And he's like. oh and i

00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:37.059
was like oh no oh wow man that's not what he's

00:47:37.059 --> 00:47:39.820
like he's like i'm gonna go to dinner because

00:47:39.820 --> 00:47:41.880
he was in a tuxedo he's like i gotta go back

00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:44.639
to dinner i'll come back and we're gonna they're

00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:46.260
gonna prep you and i'll do the surgery and i'm

00:47:46.260 --> 00:47:48.579
like hopefully he doesn't have any drinks or

00:47:48.579 --> 00:47:51.099
anything right yeah i was just gonna say what

00:47:51.099 --> 00:47:53.219
a weird job where you're like i gotta go to dinner

00:47:53.219 --> 00:47:54.840
and i'll be back and i'll fix your neck no problem

00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:59.440
no what a wild job yeah they put me out I woke

00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:01.619
up the next, you know, three, four hours later

00:48:01.619 --> 00:48:04.119
and I could squeeze my hand. I was like, Oh,

00:48:04.260 --> 00:48:09.840
but I wore a Miami JC collar for nine weeks.

00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:13.159
Couldn't drive. Wow. And I've got a titanium

00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:16.659
plate in my neck. And then you just went and

00:48:16.659 --> 00:48:19.440
got back up on skis again. How I was skiing.

00:48:20.260 --> 00:48:23.900
So this was December of 2010. I was back skiing

00:48:23.900 --> 00:48:29.480
November of 2011. And 11 months. And you were

00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:30.840
wearing a helmet when that happened, right? You

00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:33.059
said. Yeah. If I wasn't wearing a helmet, I'd

00:48:33.059 --> 00:48:35.579
be dead. Right. Wow. Cause it had a visor on

00:48:35.579 --> 00:48:38.800
it and the visor, he said, kept me from, you

00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:41.980
know, totally snapped my neck in half. Holy shit.

00:48:42.579 --> 00:48:45.320
So the visor stopped that, but yeah, I won't

00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:47.340
ski with people that don't wear helmets. So if

00:48:47.340 --> 00:48:49.820
you're, I'm skiing with me, you don't have a

00:48:49.820 --> 00:48:52.980
helmet. I'm going to buy you one. Wow. It's cost

00:48:52.980 --> 00:48:56.539
me a lot of money. Cause you buy it, usually

00:48:56.539 --> 00:49:00.949
buy them at the resort. Oh, yeah. 60 to 100 bucks.

00:49:03.610 --> 00:49:05.530
I was going to say, people hearing this, they're

00:49:05.530 --> 00:49:07.210
going to be like, oh, I forgot my helmet, Eric.

00:49:08.570 --> 00:49:13.829
Exactly. Wow. Yeah, I've seen some gnarly wrecks.

00:49:13.949 --> 00:49:19.550
I was at Mammoth last year, and I saw this woman

00:49:19.550 --> 00:49:23.110
just totally eat it and twist her, basically

00:49:23.110 --> 00:49:28.440
twist her leg from where her boot is. backwards

00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:31.500
and she was like middle -aged and she was screaming

00:49:31.500 --> 00:49:35.719
and i came up on her um like shortly after it

00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:37.460
happened she was with her son her son you know

00:49:37.460 --> 00:49:39.059
just kept going didn't know what happened and

00:49:39.059 --> 00:49:42.579
he was too far down to come back up and i was

00:49:42.579 --> 00:49:46.420
like i just laid her down and you know made sure

00:49:46.420 --> 00:49:48.980
that uh you know she was comfortable there's

00:49:48.980 --> 00:49:51.239
not much you can do and i got on my cell phone

00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:53.920
and called ski patrol yeah was it dislocated

00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:57.360
at the knee or at the ankle uh the top of her

00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:02.260
boots so knee spun around backwards oh my god

00:50:02.260 --> 00:50:04.860
yeah you can't really get too much of an ankle

00:50:04.860 --> 00:50:06.800
injury skiing because you're if you're in a yeah

00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:08.380
the boots i guess if you're snowboarding she

00:50:08.380 --> 00:50:12.519
was skiing right but yeah it's yeah it was i

00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:14.699
i was like whoa i don't want to see that without

00:50:14.699 --> 00:50:17.579
her ski pants on she was screaming these these

00:50:17.579 --> 00:50:19.420
stories are one of the reasons i've never gotten

00:50:19.420 --> 00:50:22.199
into skiing hey you're coming this year man come

00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:26.500
on i just don't get airborne I took lessons and

00:50:26.500 --> 00:50:30.059
tried one time with my second ex. Second wife.

00:50:30.179 --> 00:50:33.719
And I did okay. I used to skateboard and stuff,

00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:35.639
so I could do the snowboard, but I don't know.

00:50:36.500 --> 00:50:38.840
I've skied with her a few times. She's actually

00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:41.280
a really good snowboarder. She is, yeah. She

00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:43.199
was kind of semi -pro when she was young. She

00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:45.880
had sponsors and stuff. Hopefully she teaches

00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:48.719
your kids. She is, yeah. All the kids are skiing

00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:51.579
and snowboarding. I think Phoenix Skis, London

00:50:51.579 --> 00:50:55.699
Snowboards. and holland skis too so that reminds

00:50:55.699 --> 00:50:57.500
me i have all those videos because i was like

00:50:57.500 --> 00:51:00.940
the instagram uh husband for oh that's right

00:51:00.940 --> 00:51:03.320
when we went so i should share those with your

00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:05.639
with you saying give me your kids yeah i've got

00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:07.820
tons of videos over like snowboarding and stuff

00:51:07.820 --> 00:51:11.099
oh yeah man i'm sure they'd love that yeah when

00:51:11.099 --> 00:51:14.619
she was a more agile right she's an old lady

00:51:14.619 --> 00:51:17.260
now she can't uh make those moves as she wants

00:51:17.260 --> 00:51:20.340
to hit i'm joking oh no she's she's still i haven't

00:51:20.340 --> 00:51:24.210
seen her in years How long has it been, Chad?

00:51:24.329 --> 00:51:26.670
Probably. Well, what was the last time you saw

00:51:26.670 --> 00:51:29.550
her in 2019 when she wouldn't let you in the

00:51:29.550 --> 00:51:34.210
show? Oh. Are we talking about that? It's all

00:51:34.210 --> 00:51:37.650
right. I've been to a lot of live shows, and

00:51:37.650 --> 00:51:41.570
my wife actually went on tour with the band in

00:51:41.570 --> 00:51:43.809
Canada. Oh, get the fuck out of here. Chad's

00:51:43.809 --> 00:51:46.190
first wife, yeah. So they were on like two weeks.

00:51:46.489 --> 00:51:49.929
Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. Slipped

00:51:49.929 --> 00:51:53.809
in the bus. Yeah. I actually saw them when they

00:51:53.809 --> 00:51:57.309
did that DVD at the church, the former church.

00:51:57.590 --> 00:52:00.849
What was that? Paradiso or something? Paradiso.

00:52:00.909 --> 00:52:04.449
Oh, Paradiso, yeah. Yeah, so that was super fun.

00:52:05.590 --> 00:52:10.050
I was going to ask you. I'm sorry. Then he invited

00:52:10.050 --> 00:52:13.150
me to the, gosh, what's that festival in Nijmegen?

00:52:14.269 --> 00:52:19.170
And I was like. Was that Pink Pop? Probably Pink

00:52:19.170 --> 00:52:22.389
Pop. Wow. I was like, yeah, how am I going to

00:52:22.389 --> 00:52:24.610
get there? Cause I was in Amsterdam and I had

00:52:24.610 --> 00:52:26.170
gone to the three shows when they're filming

00:52:26.170 --> 00:52:29.489
it live at Paradiso. And he's like, ah, you just

00:52:29.489 --> 00:52:30.909
got to make your way there. And I was like, well,

00:52:30.929 --> 00:52:34.329
can I just jump in the vans? It's not cool. And

00:52:34.329 --> 00:52:36.690
I was like, okay. And so I went and found the

00:52:36.690 --> 00:52:38.849
train station and I ended up making it there

00:52:38.849 --> 00:52:41.570
before they did. I was like, okay, you drive,

00:52:41.630 --> 00:52:45.389
you should take the train. That's funny. Well,

00:52:45.449 --> 00:52:47.409
I think it was live in Lenny Kravitz, right?

00:52:47.469 --> 00:52:49.909
You guys were the headliners. Oh, wow. I believe

00:52:49.909 --> 00:52:52.750
so. Yeah. It was cool. I got to meet Lenny Krauts.

00:52:52.750 --> 00:52:56.449
I met a lot of people through Chad. Scott. Get

00:52:56.449 --> 00:53:00.010
out of here. Yeah. I think I met more people

00:53:00.010 --> 00:53:02.829
than I have through me. Yeah. Cause yeah, his

00:53:02.829 --> 00:53:05.909
first wife, she was, she's big, huge music fan.

00:53:05.989 --> 00:53:07.610
And so she would be like, Hey, you want to go

00:53:07.610 --> 00:53:11.429
see? And I love music. So, you know, we, we,

00:53:11.429 --> 00:53:14.090
we saw a lot of shows and, and Chad always got

00:53:14.090 --> 00:53:17.340
us the best tickets. So Chad's working. We had

00:53:17.340 --> 00:53:20.139
to hook up then. And you guys get to explore

00:53:20.139 --> 00:53:22.559
all the benefits of knowing him. That's awesome.

00:53:23.099 --> 00:53:25.519
I was going to ask Eric, what was the first show

00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:29.119
you saw us? Good question. First one I saw you

00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:33.900
at. Had to have been like somewhere in Portland

00:53:33.900 --> 00:53:36.199
or something, right? On the West coast. Maybe.

00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:41.840
Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. Probably was there. Like I

00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:44.260
said, I've probably seen 25, 30 shows, maybe

00:53:44.260 --> 00:53:48.989
more. It's always cool. People are like, oh,

00:53:48.989 --> 00:53:52.670
you know Rockstar? I was like, yeah, come on.

00:53:52.690 --> 00:53:55.829
Let's go see a show. It was always kind of a

00:53:55.829 --> 00:53:58.349
cool thing to be able to go and take your friends.

00:53:59.389 --> 00:54:03.130
Chad was always super gracious about making sure

00:54:03.130 --> 00:54:07.250
that afterwards he hung out and talked to us.

00:54:09.289 --> 00:54:13.750
I just was always super grateful about all that,

00:54:13.789 --> 00:54:17.039
especially I think you guys were talking about

00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:19.400
Perry Farrell. Yeah, we were. They were talking

00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:21.539
about the demise of Jane's Addiction on stage,

00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:25.019
but yeah. So Live was on tour. You did some shows

00:54:25.019 --> 00:54:27.820
with Jane's Addiction? Yeah, we opened for them

00:54:27.820 --> 00:54:31.900
in 2004 or 2005, somewhere in there, 2006. Yeah,

00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:36.019
so Chad got us tickets, and before the show,

00:54:36.179 --> 00:54:40.860
he was like, hey, we're going to have some dinner.

00:54:42.329 --> 00:54:44.269
I was like, okay. I had some friends with me.

00:54:44.309 --> 00:54:46.550
We went down into the cafeteria or wherever it

00:54:46.550 --> 00:54:48.570
was. I think it was the Nissan Pavilion in Virginia.

00:54:49.769 --> 00:54:53.190
We're sitting there and Perry Farrell comes walking

00:54:53.190 --> 00:54:59.230
in. I think everyone else had kind of left. He

00:54:59.230 --> 00:55:04.329
walks in and he was like, I kind of looked down

00:55:04.329 --> 00:55:06.809
like I didn't want to bug him or anything. He

00:55:06.809 --> 00:55:08.769
walks over and he's like, hey, how are you all

00:55:08.769 --> 00:55:12.510
doing? I'm like, we're fine. It's Perry freaking

00:55:12.510 --> 00:55:15.269
Farrell right there. And he talked to us for

00:55:15.269 --> 00:55:17.530
like 15 minutes, just like, where are you from?

00:55:17.670 --> 00:55:20.570
And you know, who's, who do you know? And I was

00:55:20.570 --> 00:55:23.309
like, Oh, this guy's awesome. And I think the

00:55:23.309 --> 00:55:24.829
only other person, I think I told you guys the

00:55:24.829 --> 00:55:27.250
story before the only other, you know, other

00:55:27.250 --> 00:55:29.349
band person I ever met that was just like the

00:55:29.349 --> 00:55:32.269
coolest dude was flea. Oh yeah. Flea is cool.

00:55:32.369 --> 00:55:36.489
Yeah. Yeah. This is cool though. Yeah. So, so

00:55:36.489 --> 00:55:39.610
I just got a text from my mom saying that you

00:55:39.610 --> 00:55:43.239
got into more shows than she did. I better zip

00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:46.920
it. The running joke of my mom and basically

00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:48.519
all the live parents is that they could never

00:55:48.519 --> 00:55:50.679
get – we give them all access passes, like the

00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:53.940
top, like AAA, here you go. No one can fuck with

00:55:53.940 --> 00:55:55.900
you, and they still wouldn't get into shows.

00:55:56.260 --> 00:55:58.219
I'm just like, it's because you're walking up

00:55:58.219 --> 00:56:02.159
and going, here's my path. Walk past them, mom.

00:56:02.219 --> 00:56:05.599
I told you just – Yeah, you just got to act like

00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:07.079
you know what you're doing, and you're with the

00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:12.269
band, and all that kind of stuff. I think I've

00:56:12.269 --> 00:56:18.289
only been kind of denied once. And I don't know

00:56:18.289 --> 00:56:20.789
if you want me to tell that story. You were a

00:56:20.789 --> 00:56:25.670
hot chick. Isn't it the Greek? Yeah. It's all

00:56:25.670 --> 00:56:30.369
right. So it's all good. I guess if you were

00:56:30.369 --> 00:56:32.590
a hot chick though, Eric, they wouldn't have

00:56:32.590 --> 00:56:36.590
denied you maybe? I didn't deny them. They weren't

00:56:36.590 --> 00:56:41.059
like that. I mean, live was never. I really got

00:56:41.059 --> 00:56:43.739
that feeling that they were that rock and roll

00:56:43.739 --> 00:56:46.860
type thing. Yeah. It wasn't like the hot chick

00:56:46.860 --> 00:56:49.719
thing going on backstage or anything. It was

00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:51.480
like a two -year period where we were running

00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:55.340
that. Between when I got divorced from my first

00:56:55.340 --> 00:56:59.000
ex and then before I met my second ex, we were

00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:01.980
having a good little run there. Yeah. I was at

00:57:01.980 --> 00:57:05.860
least. That's all that matters. Well, you know,

00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:09.119
Billy, what's his name? Billy. from Green Day.

00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:12.119
Billy Joe's favorite band of all time. I can't

00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:14.380
stand those guys. They called live Christian

00:57:14.380 --> 00:57:17.159
rockers at one point. Yeah, and Rolling Stone.

00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:20.539
And now they're like complete libtards. Like,

00:57:20.659 --> 00:57:25.340
oh, you're punk rock, but you're rebelling against...

00:57:25.340 --> 00:57:30.099
Yeah. They're not rebelling against the system.

00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:32.480
Yeah, they need to use their name to rage for

00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:37.900
the vaccine. And then, yeah, Green Day's all

00:57:37.900 --> 00:57:41.260
for For Kamala now, and Dick Cheney has endorsed

00:57:41.260 --> 00:57:44.800
them, so I guess their American Idiot album,

00:57:45.059 --> 00:57:47.260
which is all about George Bush and Dick Cheney,

00:57:47.260 --> 00:57:49.840
is out the window because now they're like, oh,

00:57:49.860 --> 00:57:52.360
yeah, well, Dick Cheney must like Kamala. I guess

00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:55.719
we have to too. I'm old enough to know how bad

00:57:55.719 --> 00:57:57.739
they treated George Bush. I mean it was almost

00:57:57.739 --> 00:58:00.480
worse than they treat Trump. I mean – and now

00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:03.559
Bush and Cheney are heroes? I mean come on. Oh

00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:05.519
my god. I know. That's what's crazy. That's what's

00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:08.760
insane. They're frigging rhino warmongers and

00:58:08.760 --> 00:58:12.780
neocons. And now everyone's like, oh, yeah, George

00:58:12.780 --> 00:58:15.599
Bush and Dick Cheney have endorsed Kamala. Yeah,

00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:19.019
the warmongers have endorsed Kamala. That tells

00:58:19.019 --> 00:58:22.139
you what the Democratic Party has become. Yes.

00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:26.000
Well, and Bush only got a shoe thrown at him.

00:58:26.019 --> 00:58:29.260
He never got shot at like Trump did. Remember

00:58:29.260 --> 00:58:31.659
when Bush had that shoe thrown at him? Yeah,

00:58:31.699 --> 00:58:35.320
the shoe is really cool. It's absolutely fascinating.

00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:38.420
yeah that's funny and then he just looks at the

00:58:38.420 --> 00:58:42.320
guy like how dare you he gets he shoots it he

00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:44.039
throws another one at him too it's two shoes

00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:47.480
oh i i don't know if i caught the uh second show

00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:51.739
yeah he ducked too anyway the bush george bush

00:58:51.739 --> 00:58:54.199
has endorsed kamala so yeah there you go that

00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:57.820
tells you everything the swamp it's like democrats

00:58:57.820 --> 00:58:59.940
are endorsing trump and now you got freaking

00:58:59.940 --> 00:59:02.960
republicans endorsing kamala it's like figure

00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:05.920
out what's going on people I always have to stay

00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:09.179
above the fray. I've got a top -secret clearance.

00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:10.579
I do a lot of work with the federal government.

00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:12.880
Most of the people that work for the feds are

00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:18.699
Democrats, and they're hardcore. So I try to

00:59:18.699 --> 00:59:22.360
sit on the fence as much as I possibly can. Yeah,

00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:24.739
well, and as you should, right? Because we talk

00:59:24.739 --> 00:59:26.639
about it all the time. It's like if you're just

00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:29.119
voting political parties and all that shit, it's

00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:30.960
like you're not really doing your job as an American.

00:59:31.820 --> 00:59:34.880
sitting on the fence and voting for people that

00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:37.239
have your best interest and not just because

00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:39.860
they're affiliated with your party seems to be

00:59:39.860 --> 00:59:42.619
the way to go um yeah and you know what i mean

00:59:42.619 --> 00:59:46.480
i i started listening and following uh rfk jr

00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:48.139
and i was like man that guy makes a lot of sense

00:59:48.139 --> 00:59:50.460
i really like that guy might be because he's

00:59:50.460 --> 00:59:52.699
you know an avid outdoorsman it kind of tickles

00:59:52.699 --> 00:59:57.280
my fancy a little bit but he's he's yeah i'm

00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:00.539
glad that he came out and you know back in trump

01:00:00.539 --> 01:00:04.699
so yeah it's um you know i like that i'm a registered

01:00:04.699 --> 01:00:08.119
libertarian i i voted for both libertarian candidates

01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:11.619
past two cycles but i was you know thinking maybe

01:00:11.619 --> 01:00:13.820
rfk jr but now i guess i got to vote for trump

01:00:13.820 --> 01:00:17.179
you got to what i'm gonna say is that it's it's

01:00:17.179 --> 01:00:19.280
great that rfk wants to come out and like go

01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:22.519
after big food and big pharma yeah the vaccines

01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:26.300
and just our food our food systems fucked it's

01:00:26.300 --> 01:00:29.780
like it's making everyone sick yeah yeah And,

01:00:29.780 --> 01:00:32.739
you know, in Europe, look at the labels as compared

01:00:32.739 --> 01:00:35.960
to here. I mean, there's so many, you know, additives

01:00:35.960 --> 01:00:38.280
that they don't allow in Europe. And, you know,

01:00:38.300 --> 01:00:40.659
it's just like, are you kidding me? Why are you

01:00:40.659 --> 01:00:42.019
putting that crap in the food? You don't need

01:00:42.019 --> 01:00:45.420
to. Yeah. The fact that Heinz ketchup is different

01:00:45.420 --> 01:00:48.239
here than it is over there, and ours is like

01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:50.800
toxic compared to what theirs is, is just crazy.

01:00:51.219 --> 01:00:54.300
I read at one point half of the FDA staff was

01:00:54.300 --> 01:00:57.719
paid for by Big Food and Big Pharma. Oh, really?

01:00:58.179 --> 01:01:02.889
So. I believe it. And there's like 15 ,000 ingredients

01:01:02.889 --> 01:01:06.110
that they only have to list on shit. And it shouldn't

01:01:06.110 --> 01:01:08.570
be that way. No, it shouldn't be that way. And

01:01:08.570 --> 01:01:11.170
the food's making everyone fat and making them

01:01:11.170 --> 01:01:12.829
sick. And then the big pharma comes in and says,

01:01:12.909 --> 01:01:16.110
hey, take this pill for that. Boom. Doctors are

01:01:16.110 --> 01:01:19.030
in on it. Like a doctor doesn't even tell you

01:01:19.030 --> 01:01:21.429
to like, oh, change your diet and don't eat.

01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:26.219
seed oils and all this bad shit. Here's the food

01:01:26.219 --> 01:01:29.280
pyramid by the United States of America. Cereal

01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:32.980
is higher on the food pyramid than meat and eggs.

01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:37.860
Processed foods are way at the top. Who's paying

01:01:37.860 --> 01:01:41.739
for that? Every year I get the tests. I've got

01:01:41.739 --> 01:01:45.730
high cholesterol off the charts. And, you know,

01:01:45.730 --> 01:01:47.309
they're always trying to put me on statins. I'm

01:01:47.309 --> 01:01:49.170
like, I'm not going on statins. My grandmother

01:01:49.170 --> 01:01:54.170
lived to 95. My grandfather lived to 89. You

01:01:54.170 --> 01:01:56.389
know, they had high cholesterol. You know, they've

01:01:56.389 --> 01:02:01.769
never took statins. And, you know, I mean, I'll

01:02:01.769 --> 01:02:04.329
just, you know, keep on going with my diet. And

01:02:04.329 --> 01:02:06.250
I'll, you know, I went and got a, I had a buddy

01:02:06.250 --> 01:02:09.989
who had a sextuplet bypass surgery. And so I

01:02:09.989 --> 01:02:12.050
was like, man, how'd you discover that? It was

01:02:12.050 --> 01:02:16.719
from a coronary. calcium scan there's a scan

01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:19.340
oh yeah i've had one of those done yeah so test

01:02:19.340 --> 01:02:22.099
you know how much calcium deposits you have in

01:02:22.099 --> 01:02:24.559
your heart and ventricles wow and he had six

01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:29.019
blockages that needed to be seven well seven

01:02:29.019 --> 01:02:33.199
he had six but they thought that uh they could

01:02:33.199 --> 01:02:36.280
just put a stint in so they went to put the stint

01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:38.659
in through his leg and he wakes up he's like

01:02:38.659 --> 01:02:41.639
oh how'd it go and you're like we're gonna to

01:02:41.639 --> 01:02:44.679
bypass surgery and they're like open heart oh

01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:48.599
shit open heart and so they he wakes up again

01:02:48.599 --> 01:02:51.300
after that and they're like how'd it go he's

01:02:51.300 --> 01:02:53.280
like how'd it go and he's like oh we thought

01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:55.800
triple bypass you had to get sextuplet bypass

01:02:55.800 --> 01:03:00.699
he's like oh my god oh my gosh wow and he was

01:03:00.699 --> 01:03:02.739
on statins he's been on statins for like 10 years

01:03:02.739 --> 01:03:09.269
yeah I will never go on statins you can no Anything

01:03:09.269 --> 01:03:11.750
like daily, I have no desire unless it's, you

01:03:11.750 --> 01:03:15.269
know, I don't know. Unless it's hardcore research

01:03:15.269 --> 01:03:18.210
on it. What's that boner pill that you could

01:03:18.210 --> 01:03:20.769
take daily? Not Viagra, but the other one. Oh,

01:03:20.769 --> 01:03:24.090
Cialis. What's that? I don't want to take it

01:03:24.090 --> 01:03:29.210
daily. That's funny. No, I'm joking. You'll take

01:03:29.210 --> 01:03:31.309
it daily for your boner, but that's it. Okay,

01:03:31.329 --> 01:03:33.190
got it. That's the only thing I'll take it for

01:03:33.190 --> 01:03:36.429
daily. Hey, that's good motivation, man. You

01:03:36.429 --> 01:03:39.940
know? But it's crazy though. Back in the day,

01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:42.079
you know, you hit a certain age and there wasn't,

01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:43.659
you know, many things you could do. Now you could

01:03:43.659 --> 01:03:46.840
be banging like Al Pacino had a kid at 90 because

01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:50.260
of these, these pills that allow men. Don't you

01:03:50.260 --> 01:03:53.480
remember the comeback of Mick Jagger? I mean,

01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:57.800
but the comeback of who's got their own playboy.

01:03:59.659 --> 01:04:01.360
Hugh Hefner, the comeback of Hugh Hefner was

01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:03.400
driven by Viagra. That's when he started having

01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:05.820
all the girlfriends. Yep. Oh yeah. Cause he was

01:04:05.820 --> 01:04:07.679
kind of laying low and then all of a sudden Viagra

01:04:07.679 --> 01:04:09.639
became a thing. And all of a sudden he has all

01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:11.280
the girlfriends and the show's getting made.

01:04:11.340 --> 01:04:13.659
He's banging seven girls at the same time. Like

01:04:13.659 --> 01:04:16.880
Viagra. Yeah. Oh yeah. Definitely. Those books

01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:19.360
were nuts too. I wrote, I read one of those books

01:04:19.360 --> 01:04:21.900
just cause it was entertaining, but he, he literally

01:04:21.900 --> 01:04:24.639
have seven girls in the bedroom. Girl would climb

01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:28.159
on, do her thing. He, and in between he would

01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:31.909
just wipe off with a, with a washcloth. Wipe

01:04:31.909 --> 01:04:35.889
it off. Next girl climbs on. Way to go. What

01:04:35.889 --> 01:04:39.909
a crazy life, man. What a crazy fucking life.

01:04:40.690 --> 01:04:43.829
I mean, if you have that much... I was just going

01:04:43.829 --> 01:04:45.590
to say, if you have that much access, it's got

01:04:45.590 --> 01:04:47.949
to take the fun out of it. It's like, you know...

01:04:47.949 --> 01:04:52.880
It's like if you are... doing massive amounts

01:04:52.880 --> 01:04:54.840
of drugs and you just have all the drugs that

01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:57.639
are in the world, they lose their wear. You no

01:04:57.639 --> 01:04:59.320
longer think they're cool to do. It's got to

01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:01.860
be the same with women. Yeah. So maybe like a,

01:05:01.940 --> 01:05:05.480
where you need more, like instead of one Viagra,

01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:09.000
you need two, right? Three. Oh, you do build

01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:11.920
resistance, build up resistance. Yeah. But at

01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:14.039
least it seems you did it the right way. You

01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:16.099
like, you don't hear about him with children.

01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:19.000
So at least he was ultra perverted, but stayed

01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:21.519
just banging women. He didn't get ultra perverted

01:05:21.519 --> 01:05:23.900
to where he was doing. There is a weird rumor

01:05:23.900 --> 01:05:28.920
about mini me and him. Really? As in mini me

01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:32.840
from Austin powers. Yes. Oh God. Don't say it

01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:37.099
ain't so Chad. I don't know. I've never, never

01:05:37.099 --> 01:05:39.219
verified it, but someone told me a weird story

01:05:39.219 --> 01:05:44.480
that was sort of a, They definitely had inside

01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:47.000
knowledge of something. I was like, that's fucking

01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:50.659
wild. That is wild. Just speculation. He probably

01:05:50.659 --> 01:05:52.980
had cameras all over the place like P. Diddy.

01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:56.880
Yeah, that guy. He just got busted. He just got

01:05:56.880 --> 01:06:00.920
swept up, didn't he? Yeah. The FBI went and cleaned

01:06:00.920 --> 01:06:04.360
that house just like they cleaned Epstein. Cleaned

01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:07.820
all his stuff. We'll see if Diddy makes it through

01:06:07.820 --> 01:06:11.210
this. I don't know, man. I'm hoping that he kept

01:06:11.210 --> 01:06:14.070
copies of everything, you know, that the FBI

01:06:14.070 --> 01:06:15.730
can't find. Oh, yeah, and he's a dead man switch

01:06:15.730 --> 01:06:19.070
at this point. Everyone does. Yeah. That's funny.

01:06:19.329 --> 01:06:20.690
Well, yeah, well, they're saying they have straight

01:06:20.690 --> 01:06:24.349
-up videos of him bringing in women and fucking

01:06:24.349 --> 01:06:27.250
threatening them on camera. Like, he recorded

01:06:27.250 --> 01:06:29.750
himself doing this, and they got all the video

01:06:29.750 --> 01:06:31.630
information. Well, more importantly, he has videos

01:06:31.630 --> 01:06:34.590
of all kinds of big music stars and VIPs in his

01:06:34.590 --> 01:06:38.590
house doing these things. money does crazy things

01:06:38.590 --> 01:06:41.369
people you know it really is that amount of money

01:06:41.369 --> 01:06:44.570
is nuts yeah or you just like yeah you can just

01:06:44.570 --> 01:06:47.190
do whatever you want to a point but you know

01:06:47.190 --> 01:06:50.070
there's always someone there that will say yes

01:06:50.070 --> 01:06:55.769
to you right yeah yeah what example was like

01:06:55.769 --> 01:06:59.590
what made them start coming out oh his uh son

01:06:59.590 --> 01:07:02.829
was it his son no it was a no a lawsuit There

01:07:02.829 --> 01:07:06.949
was a lawsuit by his DJ, I believe. I just saw

01:07:06.949 --> 01:07:12.210
this. A producer, yeah. I was a producer. He

01:07:12.210 --> 01:07:15.909
sued him for something and it's brought all this

01:07:15.909 --> 01:07:20.969
stuff. There's a good overview of that guy with

01:07:20.969 --> 01:07:24.190
the long hair on Instagram. He does a detailed

01:07:24.190 --> 01:07:29.710
thing. Cancel this clothing. That guy's cool.

01:07:30.269 --> 01:07:33.909
I just picked him up. He has some good, he goes

01:07:33.909 --> 01:07:35.670
in deep on some stuff. So he's pretty wild to

01:07:35.670 --> 01:07:38.309
watch. Yeah. So it's, it's, you know, he goes

01:07:38.309 --> 01:07:41.489
through like all kinds of details on that. I'm

01:07:41.489 --> 01:07:44.650
going to have to check it out, but yeah, it's

01:07:44.650 --> 01:07:46.550
just, it seems like they're coming for him hard.

01:07:46.829 --> 01:07:53.230
Yeah. I kind of miss, I miss going to live shows.

01:07:53.309 --> 01:07:55.710
I told Chad, I said, you know, when there's full

01:07:55.710 --> 01:07:57.949
live going on right now, I mean, yeah, it's there,

01:07:57.949 --> 01:08:01.730
but. I call it faux life. I can't get tickets

01:08:01.730 --> 01:08:06.050
for that. You can't give me tickets? I'm sure

01:08:06.050 --> 01:08:07.510
you can get something, Chad. They're not going

01:08:07.510 --> 01:08:10.929
to extend me tickets right now. Yeah. I thought

01:08:10.929 --> 01:08:12.510
about just showing up to a show, but then I was

01:08:12.510 --> 01:08:14.570
like, I don't know if I want to hear this. Oh,

01:08:14.610 --> 01:08:16.789
my God. That'd be great, dude. Hey, Ed, I'm here

01:08:16.789 --> 01:08:18.970
to play. You want to get that loser off the kit

01:08:18.970 --> 01:08:21.710
and let a real drummer get behind there and show

01:08:21.710 --> 01:08:23.529
you guys? I'm sure that guy's a competent player,

01:08:23.609 --> 01:08:26.550
but whatever. It's all good. i'm sure he is it's

01:08:26.550 --> 01:08:29.069
just again from what i've heard it's just not

01:08:29.069 --> 01:08:31.590
you know he's probably great at doing some other

01:08:31.590 --> 01:08:33.829
shit because i've i forget who we were talking

01:08:33.829 --> 01:08:35.350
to but they said yeah no he's a good drummer

01:08:35.350 --> 01:08:39.270
but he's just not for this music like there's

01:08:39.270 --> 01:08:42.789
you know and i'm not biased dude because we have

01:08:42.789 --> 01:08:45.090
this podcast together i could be honest and say

01:08:45.090 --> 01:08:46.890
all right yeah this guy can hold a candle it

01:08:46.890 --> 01:08:50.020
sounds okay but it just it doesn't it's all he's

01:08:50.020 --> 01:08:51.619
probably wearing shoes and a metronome behind

01:08:51.619 --> 01:08:56.659
him so exactly exactly what it is anti -chad

01:08:56.659 --> 01:09:01.060
gracie stuff um so yeah i was saying to to chat

01:09:01.060 --> 01:09:02.859
too but it seems like for you too eric so you're

01:09:02.859 --> 01:09:04.960
you're friends with this awesome rock star but

01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:07.140
you're married at the time and you didn't get

01:09:07.140 --> 01:09:09.500
to sew any of the royal oats that you could have

01:09:09.500 --> 01:09:13.319
being friends with him and uh you know going

01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:15.819
out and hey by the way you know i'm real good

01:09:15.819 --> 01:09:19.300
friends with the drummer here i could I think

01:09:19.300 --> 01:09:23.579
the only thing that Chad and I kind of experienced,

01:09:23.840 --> 01:09:26.819
it's a little bit funny. I think I told you guys

01:09:26.819 --> 01:09:30.579
a story, but when we were in Amsterdam, Chad

01:09:30.579 --> 01:09:33.899
was like, hey, you're in Amsterdam, so we got

01:09:33.899 --> 01:09:36.020
to go see the red light district. And I was like,

01:09:36.079 --> 01:09:39.460
yeah, I don't know if I can do that. And so he

01:09:39.460 --> 01:09:41.619
was like, no, no, we'll just go and we'll walk

01:09:41.619 --> 01:09:44.159
around. It's just fun to check out. So I was

01:09:44.159 --> 01:09:46.300
like, all right, dude, I'll go with you. And

01:09:46.300 --> 01:09:50.569
so I'll never forget. We go by this French fry

01:09:50.569 --> 01:09:53.050
stand. He's like, all right, let's get some fries.

01:09:53.350 --> 01:09:55.770
I was like, okay, I'll get some fries. Over there,

01:09:55.789 --> 01:09:58.409
they have a cone. They put a bunch of fries in

01:09:58.409 --> 01:10:02.210
there and they dip it in mayonnaise. We get the

01:10:02.210 --> 01:10:04.250
cone and with the little fork, it's like a wooden

01:10:04.250 --> 01:10:06.250
fork. He's like, all right, we're going to start

01:10:06.250 --> 01:10:08.010
over here. This is where all the scrubs are.

01:10:09.229 --> 01:10:12.810
It's in sections. You got the 20 euro section,

01:10:13.090 --> 01:10:16.350
the 50 euro section, then you got the 300 euro

01:10:16.350 --> 01:10:19.710
section. I was like, all right, yeah. And it

01:10:19.710 --> 01:10:21.789
was funny. I look over as we're going through

01:10:21.789 --> 01:10:24.430
kind of the scrub part, and there's a school,

01:10:24.430 --> 01:10:27.729
like a kindergarten. It says, like, Kindergarten

01:10:27.729 --> 01:10:29.229
or something like that. I was like, there's a

01:10:29.229 --> 01:10:31.130
school right here. There's a church down there,

01:10:31.170 --> 01:10:33.350
too. That's how they do it here in Amsterdam.

01:10:34.470 --> 01:10:37.989
Windows, a whole nine yards. And I was like,

01:10:38.109 --> 01:10:41.930
man. You ever partake in these? He's like, hell

01:10:41.930 --> 01:10:44.770
no, dude. That's gross. I'm like, I'm glad, man.

01:10:45.050 --> 01:10:46.729
I just like to walk around for the spectacle

01:10:46.729 --> 01:10:48.590
and look at it. It's fucking wild. But yeah,

01:10:48.649 --> 01:10:50.130
if you're ever there, I mean, it's something

01:10:50.130 --> 01:10:54.310
to see at night. We'd always stay at the Grand

01:10:54.310 --> 01:10:58.029
Hotel and it was like right two blocks away from

01:10:58.029 --> 01:11:02.130
the red light district. Now that I'm a little

01:11:02.130 --> 01:11:05.310
older, I know about sex trafficking and everything.

01:11:05.489 --> 01:11:07.069
So now I look back, I'm like, you know what?

01:11:07.639 --> 01:11:10.100
They're all probably Eastern European women.

01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:12.760
That's not cool. It's all Russians and Eastern

01:11:12.760 --> 01:11:16.279
Europeans. Damn you, Eric. I'm going in there

01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:18.880
with a pure mind and heart that these lovely

01:11:18.880 --> 01:11:21.600
ladies want to be there and they just want to

01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:24.819
sell themselves and there's none of that trafficking

01:11:24.819 --> 01:11:26.819
going on. They're doing this on their own volition

01:11:26.819 --> 01:11:29.340
now. There's probably some of that, but I'm telling

01:11:29.340 --> 01:11:36.140
you probably 80 -90 % is traffic. They got pimps

01:11:36.140 --> 01:11:37.060
and all that kind of stuff. Oh, it's probably

01:11:37.060 --> 01:11:41.760
way worse now with – I just saw that the – was

01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:45.840
it Belgium or Netherlands? They've elected in

01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:47.399
some new government, and they're shutting down

01:11:47.399 --> 01:11:49.699
their borders. Like they're not letting people

01:11:49.699 --> 01:11:53.319
in. Like there's a big – if you want to call

01:11:53.319 --> 01:11:56.359
it right -wing drive across Europe, but people

01:11:56.359 --> 01:11:59.039
in Europe are sick of this open immigration like

01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:02.180
we have here. They're just done with it. It's

01:12:02.180 --> 01:12:04.960
destroying Western Europe. You've got to vet

01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:06.720
people, and what's going on in the United Kingdom

01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:09.819
is like criminal where you can't say anything.

01:12:10.739 --> 01:12:13.520
They're busting people for Facebook posts. Unbelievable.

01:12:13.920 --> 01:12:18.319
Yeah, it's nuts. That's coming to America, man.

01:12:19.859 --> 01:12:23.579
I've seen tons of videos on Instagram. FBI agents

01:12:23.579 --> 01:12:25.539
are visiting people for a post they put on X

01:12:25.539 --> 01:12:28.359
or something. It's fucking wild. I just watched

01:12:28.359 --> 01:12:30.399
one yesterday. The guy's like… What are we doing

01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:32.640
here? It's like, well, I'm agent so -and -so

01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:35.000
for the FBI. Can I see your identification and

01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:36.840
give me your full name? Well, no, I can't do

01:12:36.840 --> 01:12:38.399
that. Could you stop filming me? No, I'm not

01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:39.819
going to stop filming my First Amendment right.

01:12:39.979 --> 01:12:43.140
What are we here for? Yeah. Oh, well, you put

01:12:43.140 --> 01:12:45.720
a post on X about Kamala. We'd like to talk to

01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:47.359
you about it. He's like, no, I'm not talking

01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:50.439
to you. Well, how about you go talk to the fucking

01:12:50.439 --> 01:12:53.520
two people who attempted to assassinate Trump?

01:12:53.600 --> 01:12:56.079
I'm sure they had some crazy tweets out there.

01:12:56.100 --> 01:12:58.100
Well, the point is right now they're just talking

01:12:58.100 --> 01:13:00.989
to people. How long until they start busting

01:13:00.989 --> 01:13:02.710
people and then you have to get a lawyer and

01:13:02.710 --> 01:13:05.489
defend yourself? That's coming. Well, in the

01:13:05.489 --> 01:13:07.850
UK, it's already happening. That's the point.

01:13:08.109 --> 01:13:11.470
Exactly. Because an immigrant, illegal, spit

01:13:11.470 --> 01:13:13.810
on her, and she called him a filthy immigrant,

01:13:13.989 --> 01:13:15.770
and they were like, we're going to arrest you

01:13:15.770 --> 01:13:18.729
for saying bad things about immigrants. She's

01:13:18.729 --> 01:13:21.010
like, they are filthy. He spit on me. That's

01:13:21.010 --> 01:13:26.310
filthy. It's the demise of Western democracy.

01:13:26.510 --> 01:13:28.029
This is what they want. This is what they're

01:13:28.029 --> 01:13:34.649
trying to do. And you can't be – they're so precious

01:13:34.649 --> 01:13:37.050
about their immigrants, their illegal immigrants,

01:13:37.170 --> 01:13:39.470
that you can't say anything against them or you're

01:13:39.470 --> 01:13:41.789
the bad guy when you point out how fucked up

01:13:41.789 --> 01:13:44.310
they are and the shit that they're doing. They're

01:13:44.310 --> 01:13:46.850
raping kids and stabbing people, but you can't

01:13:46.850 --> 01:13:48.350
say anything about them because they're a protected

01:13:48.350 --> 01:13:52.050
class. You've got to be more tolerant. You can't

01:13:52.050 --> 01:13:54.310
say anything bad about them. I'm all for immigrants.

01:13:54.409 --> 01:13:58.260
I come from immigrants. Of course. My grandfather,

01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:01.319
my great -grandfather came over from Croatia

01:14:01.319 --> 01:14:06.020
in 1917 or whatever it was and worked hard, was

01:14:06.020 --> 01:14:11.659
a fisherman. In fact, he got an award from Dwight

01:14:11.659 --> 01:14:15.439
D. Eisenhower, Paul Martinez Day, and he's the

01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:17.359
king of the salmon in the USA and all that kind

01:14:17.359 --> 01:14:19.579
of stuff, a hardworking guy. But he was vetted.

01:14:20.100 --> 01:14:22.239
They vetted him and made sure that he was not

01:14:22.239 --> 01:14:25.380
like – or he said who he was and came in legally.

01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:31.460
I have no problem with people coming in and they

01:14:31.460 --> 01:14:34.380
go through the process because it's not fair

01:14:34.380 --> 01:14:36.920
to others. Sure. Definitely not fair to others,

01:14:36.979 --> 01:14:41.579
but that's the point. It's legal. We're all for

01:14:41.579 --> 01:14:43.180
– everyone – we're all for legal immigration.

01:14:44.340 --> 01:14:47.640
But this is what they do. The left conflates.

01:14:48.079 --> 01:14:50.399
Oh, you're against immigrants. Like, no, we're

01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:52.960
against illegal immigrants. Right. Big difference.

01:14:53.659 --> 01:14:57.239
Unless you're Native American, we're all immigrated

01:14:57.239 --> 01:14:59.640
here. It's not like we were here. Well, they

01:14:59.640 --> 01:15:02.880
immigrated here too. Who, the Native Americans?

01:15:03.479 --> 01:15:06.760
Hell yeah. At some point after the Ice Age. They

01:15:06.760 --> 01:15:09.020
warmed up a little bit. Our ancestors walked

01:15:09.020 --> 01:15:13.520
across the land bridge. Cradle civilization is

01:15:13.520 --> 01:15:17.260
in Africa. We all came from Africa. So we're

01:15:17.260 --> 01:15:22.000
all immigrants. Everybody here. Even the indigenous

01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:25.579
people. Yeah. Well, I guess maybe they didn't

01:15:25.579 --> 01:15:27.520
come the right way because – or there wasn't

01:15:27.520 --> 01:15:30.260
a right way back in the day. But I mean now that

01:15:30.260 --> 01:15:34.460
we have civilized society and – They would just

01:15:34.460 --> 01:15:37.359
kill you if you crossed their border. If you

01:15:37.359 --> 01:15:42.939
came into their territory, stab you, kill you.

01:15:43.279 --> 01:15:46.579
I can't do that nowadays. But I mean it's just

01:15:46.579 --> 01:15:50.159
– it's a clown show saying that you don't have

01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:55.039
a border. That's just stupid. And I was shocked

01:15:55.039 --> 01:15:56.779
when I saw – did you see that ad, Chad, where

01:15:56.779 --> 01:16:00.460
Kamala had the border wall in her ad? Yeah, now

01:16:00.460 --> 01:16:02.399
she's touting the border wall. Wait a minute.

01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:06.220
You were so anti -border wall. For 10 years,

01:16:06.260 --> 01:16:09.340
it's been racist. A vanity project, and it's

01:16:09.340 --> 01:16:11.920
racist, and now you're – that's just shocking

01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:15.619
to me. The hypocrisy is off the charts. Nothing

01:16:15.619 --> 01:16:17.859
is shocking to me with her. It's just she'll

01:16:17.859 --> 01:16:20.039
say whatever she can to get elected, anything.

01:16:20.600 --> 01:16:23.920
I understand it, but when you have such staunch

01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:27.560
beliefs going one way and then completely flipped

01:16:27.560 --> 01:16:31.180
now is like. As I said, she doesn't care and

01:16:31.180 --> 01:16:32.979
the media doesn't care. The media is not going

01:16:32.979 --> 01:16:34.420
to question her on anything. They're not going

01:16:34.420 --> 01:16:35.960
to give her the hard questions. They're not going

01:16:35.960 --> 01:16:38.159
to delve deeper into what she says. They're just

01:16:38.159 --> 01:16:40.319
going to let her say shit and no one's going

01:16:40.319 --> 01:16:42.060
to question her. Right. That's how it works.

01:16:42.279 --> 01:16:45.760
Right. You saw it on the debate. Trump got fact

01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:47.819
checked all the time. She got no fact checks.

01:16:47.979 --> 01:16:52.310
Right. I just read some of Robert Hayes' chat

01:16:52.310 --> 01:16:54.930
messages. Yeah, man, I'm with you. Oh, yeah.

01:16:55.069 --> 01:16:58.109
Oh, he's the best. Bobby. Bobby is the best.

01:16:58.210 --> 01:17:00.670
But it's just crazy. It shows that people have

01:17:00.670 --> 01:17:03.810
no backbone. The fact that they, you know, a

01:17:03.810 --> 01:17:06.590
month ago were saying she's the worst VP ever,

01:17:06.649 --> 01:17:08.630
you know, thank God, blah, blah, blah, blah,

01:17:08.710 --> 01:17:11.270
blah. And now she's the greatest thing to ever

01:17:11.270 --> 01:17:13.899
run for president. Well, it's the greatest thing

01:17:13.899 --> 01:17:15.500
that's ever been selected for you. So, yeah,

01:17:15.579 --> 01:17:18.039
there you go. Right. But it's shocking. No, that

01:17:18.039 --> 01:17:20.859
is like the pinnacle, the pinnacle of gaslighting.

01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:22.760
Right. I don't know if you can gaslight more

01:17:22.760 --> 01:17:26.100
than that. That's like that's like and they just

01:17:26.100 --> 01:17:29.340
fall for it. Top gaslighted everybody. Yeah.

01:17:29.420 --> 01:17:32.100
And they just fall for it. Like, OK, well, this

01:17:32.100 --> 01:17:33.920
is who they're telling me to vote for. So I guess

01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:37.899
I better vote for crazy. Wow. And then I love

01:17:37.899 --> 01:17:40.680
when they try to call the right and, you know,

01:17:40.680 --> 01:17:43.300
people that aren't on the left. sheeple it's

01:17:43.300 --> 01:17:47.279
like you're constantly lied to by the media by

01:17:47.279 --> 01:17:50.420
your politicians well even the follow whatever

01:17:50.420 --> 01:17:53.979
they tell you to do where are the MAGA extremists

01:17:53.979 --> 01:17:56.340
like I'm seeing left extremists trying to kill

01:17:56.340 --> 01:18:00.979
people like literally uh but where are the MAGA

01:18:00.979 --> 01:18:03.420
extremists that everybody's so they're wearing

01:18:03.420 --> 01:18:07.199
khaki pants blue shirts masks and everyone yells

01:18:07.199 --> 01:18:09.800
at them fed fed fed That's your back extremist.

01:18:10.020 --> 01:18:14.500
Right. Right. With, you know, short haircuts

01:18:14.500 --> 01:18:17.779
and you're like, okay, okay. There are the feds.

01:18:18.119 --> 01:18:21.560
And that's who they want you to think of the

01:18:21.560 --> 01:18:24.680
mega extremist. Exactly. Crazy gaslighting at

01:18:24.680 --> 01:18:27.920
its finest. Like you said, well, Mr. Eric Martinez.

01:18:28.659 --> 01:18:32.340
Oh man. 20 minutes over. Yeah, man. It's always

01:18:32.340 --> 01:18:34.819
with you, dude. Every time we, we get you on.

01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:37.039
So for those who don't know, Eric comes on our

01:18:37.039 --> 01:18:41.050
Instagram show. Not often, but often enough that

01:18:41.050 --> 01:18:44.930
he's a recurring character. Recurring character.

01:18:45.310 --> 01:18:47.430
Yeah. We thought it'd be fun to get him on here.

01:18:47.449 --> 01:18:48.649
We're definitely going to have him on here again.

01:18:48.710 --> 01:18:51.029
He's got a lot of stories from back in the day,

01:18:51.170 --> 01:18:54.050
live stories, stuff like that, that we didn't

01:18:54.050 --> 01:18:57.710
get into. We have a little time. Just give us

01:18:57.710 --> 01:19:01.310
one good story, Eric. One good story from the

01:19:01.310 --> 01:19:06.689
live days? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think that...

01:19:06.920 --> 01:19:09.220
The flea story is probably the best that I have.

01:19:09.859 --> 01:19:14.180
And if you haven't heard that, I've got others,

01:19:14.420 --> 01:19:16.199
and I just don't know which ones I could talk

01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:17.859
about, but I'll tell you the flea story again

01:19:17.859 --> 01:19:20.380
real quick, and then I'll vet the other ones

01:19:20.380 --> 01:19:25.359
with Chad on the side. No problem. So we were

01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:28.199
at the Tibetan Freedom Festival in Washington,

01:19:28.300 --> 01:19:30.439
D .C. because I lived out in Maryland for 21

01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:32.880
years. And Chad calls me up. He's like, hey,

01:19:32.920 --> 01:19:34.340
we're coming through the Tibetan Freedom Festival.

01:19:34.500 --> 01:19:36.319
It's going to be Dave Matthews' band. REM will

01:19:36.319 --> 01:19:39.159
be there. Red Hot Chili Peppers. And it was an

01:19:39.159 --> 01:19:41.279
RFK stadium. And I was like, all right, cool.

01:19:41.319 --> 01:19:45.239
Yeah, I want to go. And so we go, and it was

01:19:45.239 --> 01:19:47.460
when Chad was married to his first wife. And

01:19:47.460 --> 01:19:51.560
he sits us up in like a box, and I'm there with

01:19:51.560 --> 01:19:53.960
Padmai. I always forget her name. Chad, what's

01:19:53.960 --> 01:19:57.039
her name? Padmai from Star Wars. Oh, Natalie

01:19:57.039 --> 01:20:00.170
Portman. Natalie Portman. So we're up there.

01:20:00.649 --> 01:20:05.069
Yeah, I kept looking at her like sitting next

01:20:05.069 --> 01:20:08.590
to Natalie Portman. I was mad. I had a huge crush

01:20:08.590 --> 01:20:10.750
on her. And then Michelle brought her. Sorry,

01:20:10.890 --> 01:20:13.229
my ex, Michelle, brought her to me and was like,

01:20:13.270 --> 01:20:15.350
here's Natalie Portman. I'm like, yeah, man.

01:20:15.789 --> 01:20:17.989
Well, I can't I can say hi to her, but I can't

01:20:17.989 --> 01:20:20.369
do anything because, you know, she's even prettier

01:20:20.369 --> 01:20:22.789
in person and she's so nice. She was really cool.

01:20:23.329 --> 01:20:27.279
But anyway, so there was a big. thunderstorm

01:20:27.279 --> 01:20:29.279
that came through and actually someone got hit

01:20:29.279 --> 01:20:31.600
by lightning at that show and so they told everyone

01:20:31.600 --> 01:20:34.439
you got to go out and go on the concrete you

01:20:34.439 --> 01:20:37.600
know surrounds and so we leave and i was like

01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:39.840
well let's go down and and see if there's any

01:20:39.840 --> 01:20:43.140
food and we had you know all access passes and

01:20:43.140 --> 01:20:47.079
so we go and my my wife and i get um some chicken

01:20:47.079 --> 01:20:50.680
and and you know whatever they had and we go

01:20:50.680 --> 01:20:52.720
and sit in a bench that's underneath the concrete

01:20:53.770 --> 01:20:55.569
And so I'm eating my food and my wife's sitting

01:20:55.569 --> 01:20:58.130
there and she's eating. And, and all of a sudden,

01:20:58.149 --> 01:21:01.750
um, I, we, we had kind of run into Dave Matthews

01:21:01.750 --> 01:21:04.529
and that guy was not cool at all. Really? Yeah.

01:21:04.630 --> 01:21:07.109
He just was not, he was really full of himself.

01:21:07.789 --> 01:21:09.710
So we're sitting there just kind of like minding

01:21:09.710 --> 01:21:12.810
our own business. And, and, uh, Lee comes up

01:21:12.810 --> 01:21:14.489
and he's like, Hey, is anyone sitting here? Cause

01:21:14.489 --> 01:21:16.670
he had food too. My wife's like, no, come on,

01:21:16.689 --> 01:21:19.189
sit down. And my wife doesn't know a lot of,

01:21:19.229 --> 01:21:21.010
I mean, she recognizes people, but I don't think

01:21:21.010 --> 01:21:23.810
she knew it was flea. And I'm like, eating my

01:21:23.810 --> 01:21:25.810
chicken going oh my gosh there's lee right there

01:21:25.810 --> 01:21:31.350
and so he starts chatting up my wife and uh and

01:21:31.350 --> 01:21:33.130
uh you know he's talking to her where you from

01:21:33.130 --> 01:21:34.770
you know just typical stuff and they're just

01:21:34.770 --> 01:21:37.449
talking talking talking and i try to like interject

01:21:37.449 --> 01:21:40.869
and you know i just have no i'm just i look like

01:21:40.869 --> 01:21:44.170
a doofus yeah so i just like my own business

01:21:44.170 --> 01:21:47.569
and all of a sudden lee's wife comes over she's

01:21:47.569 --> 01:21:49.949
got short hair i don't know her name and it's

01:21:49.949 --> 01:21:54.909
dyed pink and she's got a sundress on and we're

01:21:54.909 --> 01:22:00.090
still talking and her their son comes over and

01:22:00.090 --> 01:22:04.029
he walks up and he's probably six or seven years

01:22:04.029 --> 01:22:07.170
old maybe not a toddler he's walking around and

01:22:07.170 --> 01:22:09.909
he looks up he's like mommy and she's like he

01:22:09.909 --> 01:22:12.609
and he and he points to her dress or whatever

01:22:12.609 --> 01:22:15.510
and she's like yeah go ahead so he reaches up

01:22:15.510 --> 01:22:19.380
pulls down her dress and starts nursing yes right

01:22:19.380 --> 01:22:22.819
there out in the open and i was like oh boy i

01:22:22.819 --> 01:22:25.060
just put my head down and i'm like eating my

01:22:25.060 --> 01:22:27.239
food and i was like that's the craziest thing

01:22:27.239 --> 01:22:31.319
i've ever seen wow six or seven that's hilarious

01:22:31.319 --> 01:22:34.199
dude way too old to be sucking your mom's boobie

01:22:34.199 --> 01:22:37.439
my god when you can ask for it you shouldn't

01:22:37.439 --> 01:22:42.000
be sucking it anymore yeah i heard once that

01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:44.880
you know some earthy or you know granola types

01:22:44.880 --> 01:22:48.149
you know allow their children to nurse as long

01:22:48.149 --> 01:22:50.210
as they want. I don't know. Right. I've heard

01:22:50.210 --> 01:22:53.409
that too. It's like a little more immunity. You

01:22:53.409 --> 01:22:56.590
don't need as many vaccines, I guess. Ah, when,

01:22:56.689 --> 01:22:58.850
when does that become like child pornography?

01:22:59.189 --> 01:23:01.649
Like how old do you have to be sucking on a tip

01:23:01.649 --> 01:23:05.289
before that becomes like, you know, you shouldn't

01:23:05.289 --> 01:23:07.989
be seeing that. Yeah. I don't know. It was crazy.

01:23:08.470 --> 01:23:11.529
I mean, if you have me, I'm guessing that's the,

01:23:11.670 --> 01:23:13.729
and that you have those at around, you know,

01:23:13.729 --> 01:23:15.859
a little over a year. You have teeth in your

01:23:15.859 --> 01:23:18.340
mouth. Yeah. I don't think you should be nursing.

01:23:19.720 --> 01:23:21.199
You should have pulled out your camera, though,

01:23:21.220 --> 01:23:24.220
and grabbed the picture of T. Well, those days,

01:23:24.359 --> 01:23:27.479
T was flip phones. So I have a camera on you.

01:23:27.619 --> 01:23:31.239
I do have I do have video and pictures from that.

01:23:31.279 --> 01:23:33.439
But I had like a little, you know, regular camera.

01:23:33.819 --> 01:23:38.279
Not not it was it was digital. Because I just

01:23:38.279 --> 01:23:41.479
uploaded my first my first digital photo. This

01:23:41.479 --> 01:23:45.159
is kind of cool. I've been – for the past year

01:23:45.159 --> 01:23:48.520
and a half, I've been transferring all 8 -millimeter

01:23:48.520 --> 01:23:52.779
films that I have that I got from my grandfather,

01:23:53.119 --> 01:23:55.739
16 -millimeter from my great -grandfather, and

01:23:55.739 --> 01:23:59.199
then pictures that are only printed. I've been

01:23:59.199 --> 01:24:01.199
scanning them, so I'm up to almost a terabyte.

01:24:01.699 --> 01:24:06.500
Wow. Yeah, so I was looking back at all my photos

01:24:06.500 --> 01:24:08.619
and then taking them off of old hard drives because

01:24:08.619 --> 01:24:11.199
I've kept them all. Just transferring them all

01:24:11.199 --> 01:24:14.140
to Google Photos where the AI takes over and

01:24:14.140 --> 01:24:17.960
recognizes everything. The first picture I ever

01:24:17.960 --> 01:24:20.420
took was on an Olympus digital camera that I

01:24:20.420 --> 01:24:24.680
won in a contest. I was at the Bush inauguration,

01:24:24.779 --> 01:24:30.079
first Bush. Not George H .W., George W. Bush,

01:24:30.260 --> 01:24:33.819
his son. I'm standing there with my arm around

01:24:33.819 --> 01:24:39.470
Kenneth Starr. Nice. He's famous from Bill Clinton

01:24:39.470 --> 01:24:42.069
and Monica Lewinsky. That's right. He was a special

01:24:42.069 --> 01:24:45.270
counsel. Monica Blue Klinsky. Depends on what

01:24:45.270 --> 01:24:48.550
the definition of is. That was the first picture

01:24:48.550 --> 01:24:50.329
I ever took on that digital camera. How did you

01:24:50.329 --> 01:24:52.470
know to take a picture with him? Because he wasn't

01:24:52.470 --> 01:24:56.510
the Kenneth Starr from the case at that point.

01:24:56.729 --> 01:25:00.550
He was. Because Clinton was before Bush. Oh,

01:25:01.369 --> 01:25:05.770
so it was Bush Jr., the one who got us into Iraq.

01:25:06.510 --> 01:25:08.609
Yeah, it was that, that first inauguration. I

01:25:08.609 --> 01:25:13.090
got invited downtown DC for a, uh, um, I had

01:25:13.090 --> 01:25:15.729
a friend who was an attorney and they were watching

01:25:15.729 --> 01:25:18.489
from there because the parade route passed in

01:25:18.489 --> 01:25:20.130
the old days. They had a parade, you know, for

01:25:20.130 --> 01:25:22.729
the new president incoming. Right. And the parade

01:25:22.729 --> 01:25:25.250
route passed right by the, the, the law firm.

01:25:25.329 --> 01:25:27.229
So then they invited me and it was the whole

01:25:27.229 --> 01:25:29.250
thing. I brought that camera with me because

01:25:29.250 --> 01:25:32.010
it was, I just had unpacked it. Rock on, man.

01:25:32.430 --> 01:25:34.729
Yeah, man. You got to post that. You and Kenneth

01:25:34.729 --> 01:25:40.970
Starr. And one other fun fact is Chad got me

01:25:40.970 --> 01:25:44.770
tickets to Local H. You know that band? It's

01:25:44.770 --> 01:25:47.430
only two guys, and it's a drummer, and I think

01:25:47.430 --> 01:25:49.890
he's a guitar player. Yeah, guitar player. And

01:25:49.890 --> 01:25:53.470
I remember the drummer afterwards came up to

01:25:53.470 --> 01:25:55.329
me. He's like, hey, how did you get these tickets?

01:25:55.529 --> 01:25:58.449
And Chad, you weren't there. It was their opening

01:25:58.449 --> 01:26:03.729
for STP. And I was like, oh, I think I was with

01:26:03.729 --> 01:26:07.689
your first wife. And I said, yeah, I got them

01:26:07.689 --> 01:26:10.689
from Chad Gracie. He's like, oh, no way. You

01:26:10.689 --> 01:26:12.109
know, Chad Gracie. And I'm like, yeah. He's like,

01:26:12.170 --> 01:26:15.649
he's my favorite drummer. That guy's funny. So

01:26:15.649 --> 01:26:17.470
I don't know if he's ever told you that. But

01:26:17.470 --> 01:26:19.189
was that the original drummer? Like, was it the

01:26:19.189 --> 01:26:20.930
black kid or was it another another drummer?

01:26:21.010 --> 01:26:23.229
Because the original drummer was a was a black

01:26:23.229 --> 01:26:26.170
kid. And they opened for us, but interacted with

01:26:26.170 --> 01:26:28.890
him a couple of times. So I don't remember his

01:26:28.890 --> 01:26:32.109
name, unfortunately. Black. I don't I don't remember.

01:26:32.189 --> 01:26:35.390
I just remember, man, he was a hard. Because

01:26:35.390 --> 01:26:37.489
he was trying to, I think he was somehow playing

01:26:37.489 --> 01:26:41.210
bass with his drum kit. Oh, shit. And drumming.

01:26:41.210 --> 01:26:43.949
Not a bass, like a real bass, but some sort of,

01:26:43.970 --> 01:26:46.329
I don't know what it was. I was like, I was watching

01:26:46.329 --> 01:26:49.989
him going, holy crap, this guy's good. Wow, that's

01:26:49.989 --> 01:26:53.109
crazy. It's kind of cool that Chad doesn't know

01:26:53.109 --> 01:26:58.930
how revered he is in the rock world. He was on

01:26:58.930 --> 01:27:01.710
the cover of Drummer Magazine. I know. I keep

01:27:01.710 --> 01:27:03.989
trying to tell him how cool he is, but it doesn't

01:27:03.989 --> 01:27:06.050
sink in his head. And he's always like, oh, thanks,

01:27:06.170 --> 01:27:10.170
man. Thanks. I will tell you. I don't know if

01:27:10.170 --> 01:27:13.750
I should tell this story. Uh -oh. So when they

01:27:13.750 --> 01:27:18.050
moved to Oregon and they bought that house, I

01:27:18.050 --> 01:27:20.710
was always like, Chad, how come you don't have

01:27:20.710 --> 01:27:24.649
a drum kit or anything? And, you know, because

01:27:24.649 --> 01:27:27.229
it was... gosh lived there for like a year no

01:27:27.229 --> 01:27:29.369
drums anywhere he's like well you know I don't

01:27:29.369 --> 01:27:31.489
really like doing it in my spare time it's not

01:27:31.489 --> 01:27:33.590
I said you don't need to practice or anything

01:27:33.590 --> 01:27:36.130
he's like yeah not that into it I'm not that

01:27:36.130 --> 01:27:39.029
into it and I was like really I said well what

01:27:39.029 --> 01:27:41.090
would you have done if you weren't a drummer

01:27:41.090 --> 01:27:43.350
he's like uh you know I think I've heard him

01:27:43.350 --> 01:27:44.970
on the show before he's like I probably would

01:27:44.970 --> 01:27:47.289
have been a doctor yeah into the medical field

01:27:47.289 --> 01:27:53.500
or in a historian or on or weapons uh and that's

01:27:53.500 --> 01:27:56.100
that's his personality he's like a doctor he's

01:27:56.100 --> 01:27:59.220
like not uh you know he's not i was i was into

01:27:59.220 --> 01:28:02.600
playing the drums in life like with with my friends

01:28:02.600 --> 01:28:06.119
yeah and but to my knowledge you never had a

01:28:06.119 --> 01:28:11.020
drum kit at your house no no i uh my freaking

01:28:11.020 --> 01:28:15.880
mom's texting me gynecologist shut up mom a gynecologist

01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:21.439
that's my mom just text me hilarious until you

01:28:21.439 --> 01:28:23.359
get that 80 year old in there and you gotta look

01:28:23.359 --> 01:28:26.239
at that if you have a probably or she'll probably

01:28:26.239 --> 01:28:28.460
come up with some antidote like oh you said that

01:28:28.460 --> 01:28:29.960
when you were a young kid you said you want to

01:28:29.960 --> 01:28:32.960
be a gynecologist like okay maybe i did but it

01:28:32.960 --> 01:28:35.960
was a joke i will tell you that that lana or

01:28:35.960 --> 01:28:38.420
i guess i could say her name i'm always worried

01:28:38.420 --> 01:28:40.359
like how much privacy oh it's all right it's

01:28:40.359 --> 01:28:43.149
fine But she is like one of my favorite people

01:28:43.149 --> 01:28:47.149
of all time. Chad's mom is insane. She's so awesome.

01:28:47.270 --> 01:28:49.510
I know you've had her on before. She's so nice.

01:28:49.590 --> 01:28:51.970
And she's always, always super nice to my wife

01:28:51.970 --> 01:28:56.729
and I. Just down to earth, real people, not afraid

01:28:56.729 --> 01:28:59.329
to laugh at some things, like have a good time,

01:28:59.369 --> 01:29:02.329
like real people, which is cool. Super funny.

01:29:02.369 --> 01:29:04.670
Super fun. I remember seeing her at this farmer's

01:29:04.670 --> 01:29:08.199
market in York or was it Lancaster? It was in

01:29:08.199 --> 01:29:11.180
York. She'd worked at one in York. Never worked

01:29:11.180 --> 01:29:14.199
at one in Lancaster. Yeah, I remember we went

01:29:14.199 --> 01:29:17.579
and visited her. She has kind of that Pennsylvania

01:29:17.579 --> 01:29:22.279
accent a little bit. I was like, well, what's

01:29:22.279 --> 01:29:25.359
a real kind of Pennsylvania? Because I grew up

01:29:25.359 --> 01:29:27.319
in California, so I'm like a California boy.

01:29:27.520 --> 01:29:31.000
I always wanted to see all the stuff. I loved

01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:33.800
going up to Bird in Hand or Intercourse or some

01:29:33.800 --> 01:29:37.529
of those places out there. Yeah, yeah. She's

01:29:37.529 --> 01:29:40.430
like, well, you should really try this. I look

01:29:40.430 --> 01:29:43.729
at it, and it's called cup cheese. C -U -P cheese.

01:29:44.289 --> 01:29:47.130
I was like, I don't know if I want cup cheese.

01:29:47.789 --> 01:29:50.609
I tried it. I was like, yeah, it's not my thing.

01:29:53.909 --> 01:29:57.250
There's a lot of mystery meats up there. That's

01:29:57.250 --> 01:30:00.390
more of a Pennsylvania Dutch thing. It's like

01:30:00.390 --> 01:30:02.850
minced up meat and gelatin. Is that what cup

01:30:02.850 --> 01:30:09.010
cheese is? I don't know. I've heard of blood

01:30:09.010 --> 01:30:13.729
stew. I'm not into that. Weird thing. I lived

01:30:13.729 --> 01:30:17.250
in Korea for a year on an internship and the

01:30:17.250 --> 01:30:19.350
worst thing I've ever eaten in my life was blood

01:30:19.350 --> 01:30:23.449
stew. It was disgusting. Just the name says yuck.

01:30:23.729 --> 01:30:28.050
What they do is they boil water or soup broth

01:30:28.050 --> 01:30:31.390
just like super boiling and then they take a

01:30:31.390 --> 01:30:35.359
ladle with cow blood. And they pour it in there

01:30:35.359 --> 01:30:38.699
and it curdles real fast. And they dish that

01:30:38.699 --> 01:30:40.819
out and you're eating these. And I couldn't finish

01:30:40.819 --> 01:30:42.319
it. That's like the first time I couldn't finish

01:30:42.319 --> 01:30:43.760
something in my entire life. It's disgusting.

01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:46.479
I just don't understand. Like, if you have to,

01:30:46.659 --> 01:30:49.659
like, if that's like the last thing left to eat

01:30:49.659 --> 01:30:53.439
and this is what you have to do, then I understand

01:30:53.439 --> 01:30:56.600
it. But if this is what you're eating. And then

01:30:56.600 --> 01:30:59.020
wouldn't they give you warm barley water was

01:30:59.020 --> 01:31:01.279
what you drank? Yeah. Oh, my God. That wasn't

01:31:01.279 --> 01:31:05.100
too bad. You know, they talk a lot about Haitians

01:31:05.100 --> 01:31:09.739
eating dogs and cats, and I will come clean and

01:31:09.739 --> 01:31:12.819
say that I did eat some dog in Korea. Yum. How

01:31:12.819 --> 01:31:15.659
was it? It wasn't that bad. It tastes like, have

01:31:15.659 --> 01:31:18.479
you ever had ostrich, which is super lean? I've

01:31:18.479 --> 01:31:21.239
had it, yeah. It's kind of like ostrich. Okay,

01:31:21.399 --> 01:31:23.800
no. Did you know it was dog when you were eating

01:31:23.800 --> 01:31:29.359
it? Yeah, yeah. But in Korea, they just outlawed

01:31:29.359 --> 01:31:31.079
it, so you can't eat dogs in Korea anymore. It

01:31:31.079 --> 01:31:34.060
was legal outside of Seoul. And they would have

01:31:34.060 --> 01:31:37.520
like special cars that would come pick you up

01:31:37.520 --> 01:31:40.079
to go eat dog because you had to leave the city

01:31:40.079 --> 01:31:43.079
and those restaurants. And right now they're

01:31:43.079 --> 01:31:45.420
having an issue where they're paying restaurants

01:31:45.420 --> 01:31:50.500
that used to serve dog money to switch to beef

01:31:50.500 --> 01:31:54.560
or whatever. But the dogs weren't the pets. They

01:31:54.560 --> 01:31:59.539
were called Boshine Terrier. And so the Boshine

01:31:59.539 --> 01:32:02.500
or Boshine or whatever, they bred them. for dog

01:32:02.500 --> 01:32:05.960
meat it's disgusting oh my god i was 21 and you

01:32:05.960 --> 01:32:07.920
know these guys are like hey we're gonna go eat

01:32:07.920 --> 01:32:11.140
dog and i was like all right i may or may not

01:32:11.140 --> 01:32:19.279
eat it let me try it yeah i mean so they're just

01:32:19.279 --> 01:32:21.920
making that illegal now what's up south korea

01:32:21.920 --> 01:32:25.260
way to join the 21st century yeah it just in

01:32:25.260 --> 01:32:27.920
the past month is now illegal oh wow but you

01:32:27.920 --> 01:32:31.550
know if you think about the The economy and the

01:32:31.550 --> 01:32:34.050
market, you know, there was probably like 2 ,000

01:32:34.050 --> 01:32:35.970
restaurants that served dog. And then they have

01:32:35.970 --> 01:32:38.149
all the breeders, you know, that would breed

01:32:38.149 --> 01:32:40.649
the Beauchamp Terrier. And, you know, they have

01:32:40.649 --> 01:32:44.390
to get them to switch to pork or beef or chickens

01:32:44.390 --> 01:32:46.350
or whatever. And so the government had to come

01:32:46.350 --> 01:32:48.329
in and say, hey, we're sorry that we're shutting

01:32:48.329 --> 01:32:51.409
you down, but we're going to help you move your

01:32:51.409 --> 01:32:53.529
business to something else. Because you can't

01:32:53.529 --> 01:32:56.609
just like, you know, take these people out. Oh,

01:32:56.609 --> 01:33:00.069
yeah. crazy if it's their main source of yeah

01:33:00.069 --> 01:33:01.829
that's how they made their money right in their

01:33:01.829 --> 01:33:04.930
families wow what a different different time

01:33:04.930 --> 01:33:07.850
different place even though it's the same time

01:33:07.850 --> 01:33:10.350
that we're in it's just like a different it's

01:33:10.350 --> 01:33:13.390
just crazy that some people are in you know the

01:33:13.390 --> 01:33:16.270
jungles barely surviving and you know living

01:33:16.270 --> 01:33:18.630
like horrible and then we're over here in our

01:33:18.630 --> 01:33:22.890
cozy houses and stuff like that and like Do they

01:33:22.890 --> 01:33:25.850
even know how cool society is if you get out

01:33:25.850 --> 01:33:27.850
of these places, or do they not know? It's just

01:33:27.850 --> 01:33:32.289
strange. Yeah, they don't know. If that's all

01:33:32.289 --> 01:33:34.670
you know in your whole life, unless you've got

01:33:34.670 --> 01:33:37.409
satellite television, these days they can watch

01:33:37.409 --> 01:33:40.229
the movies. It's different when you're living

01:33:40.229 --> 01:33:42.869
there. And I've always said every American should

01:33:42.869 --> 01:33:46.029
live somewhere outside the United States for

01:33:46.029 --> 01:33:50.229
a year. Right. I've got my son living in Croatia

01:33:50.229 --> 01:33:52.329
right now, which is... you know kind of cush

01:33:52.329 --> 01:33:55.949
but man i'll tell you what that one year that

01:33:55.949 --> 01:34:00.390
i lived in korea um and uh that if you have me

01:34:00.390 --> 01:34:02.630
on the show again i'll tell you some crazy crazy

01:34:02.630 --> 01:34:07.390
stories yes i got involved with with yakuza there

01:34:07.390 --> 01:34:12.369
and yeah korea was that when i came back i literally

01:34:12.369 --> 01:34:15.630
got on the ground and kissed the ground like

01:34:15.630 --> 01:34:19.380
i was a patriot yeah i was a patriot from from

01:34:19.380 --> 01:34:21.600
then on. And they're not third world. I mean,

01:34:21.619 --> 01:34:24.340
they're first world. Right. It's a different

01:34:24.340 --> 01:34:28.020
place. Different. That's why I recommend everyone

01:34:28.020 --> 01:34:30.319
should live somewhere for a year outside the

01:34:30.319 --> 01:34:32.399
United States. We should send all the queers

01:34:32.399 --> 01:34:35.140
from Palestine to Palestine. To Palestine, yeah.

01:34:35.399 --> 01:34:39.239
Hey. 100%. I'd buy a ticket. I'd buy a ticket.

01:34:39.560 --> 01:34:41.819
Exactly. We'll volunteer a ticket for somebody.

01:34:41.840 --> 01:34:45.960
Here you go. Go ahead. No protest there. I'd

01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:47.500
like to go and watch what happens when they got

01:34:47.500 --> 01:34:51.300
off the plane there. that would be my take it

01:34:51.300 --> 01:34:54.180
to my film crew with them here you go all right

01:34:54.180 --> 01:34:56.039
well let's keep it there then so eric god next

01:34:56.039 --> 01:34:57.779
time you come on we're gonna hear some korea

01:34:57.779 --> 01:35:00.699
stories oh yeah do korea because yeah you'll

01:35:00.699 --> 01:35:03.020
be entertained thoroughly anytime they tell people

01:35:03.020 --> 01:35:04.859
the korea stories they're like dude those are

01:35:04.859 --> 01:35:07.659
the best you've told me something i forget 20

01:35:07.659 --> 01:35:12.159
20 21 years old and eric will also run some more

01:35:12.159 --> 01:35:14.880
uh stories past mr gracie to make sure they're

01:35:14.880 --> 01:35:18.099
that will vet some stuff from live stories We

01:35:18.099 --> 01:35:20.140
should have done a pre pre -call. I didn't, I

01:35:20.140 --> 01:35:21.979
didn't know. I didn't know you had stories that

01:35:21.979 --> 01:35:24.119
you need to ask about it. So it was fine. We'll

01:35:24.119 --> 01:35:26.159
do that. Well, yeah. I mean, anyone can Google

01:35:26.159 --> 01:35:29.140
like the lawsuits that I'm in with some others.

01:35:29.579 --> 01:35:32.800
Yeah. I don't want to talk about those. You know,

01:35:32.880 --> 01:35:35.699
the stories are pretty gnarly. Yeah. But they're,

01:35:35.699 --> 01:35:38.979
you know, they're out there in the ether. Yeah.

01:35:39.319 --> 01:35:41.539
And eventually they'll be fully out there in

01:35:41.539 --> 01:35:43.319
the ether and people could really know what the

01:35:43.319 --> 01:35:46.159
fuck's going on. But anywho, Eric, thank you

01:35:46.159 --> 01:35:48.680
again for coming on, man. We love you. Thank

01:35:48.680 --> 01:35:51.939
you, brother. Good to see you, man. All right.

01:35:52.619 --> 01:35:57.720
That's the one and only Mr. Eric Martinez. Cool

01:35:57.720 --> 01:36:00.960
dude, man. Yeah, absolutely. Fun dude. Chad,

01:36:01.039 --> 01:36:05.239
did you update your iOS to iOS 18? Oh, is that

01:36:05.239 --> 01:36:10.920
doable now? Doable now. Sweet. I have not because

01:36:10.920 --> 01:36:12.800
I didn't know it was out, but I'm getting a,

01:36:12.819 --> 01:36:17.390
apparently. i have an iphone 16 coming so yes

01:36:17.390 --> 01:36:21.130
coming to i have a 12 so i haven't gotten one

01:36:21.130 --> 01:36:23.550
in like four years or like whatever yeah well

01:36:23.550 --> 01:36:26.369
now this one they don't change anything it's

01:36:26.369 --> 01:36:28.149
like oh here's some better cameras and a bigger

01:36:28.149 --> 01:36:30.670
battery and a better screen well i was like okay

01:36:30.670 --> 01:36:33.729
and it's faster okay this one seems to got a

01:36:33.729 --> 01:36:36.810
bunch of new cool upgrades dude apple intelligence

01:36:36.810 --> 01:36:39.210
i like that ai instead of artificial intelligence

01:36:39.210 --> 01:36:41.149
apple yeah my son said that doesn't start until

01:36:41.149 --> 01:36:43.899
october though like The new phones don't have

01:36:43.899 --> 01:36:46.460
the Apple intelligence on them until October.

01:36:46.579 --> 01:36:48.520
I guess they're going to do an update. Yeah.

01:36:48.619 --> 01:36:50.300
It seems kind of weird for Apple. Like they're

01:36:50.300 --> 01:36:52.619
rolling out a month after they're giving you

01:36:52.619 --> 01:36:54.680
the new iOS. Cause usually have that shit buttoned

01:36:54.680 --> 01:36:58.380
up. So yeah. Interesting. Well, I think because,

01:36:58.439 --> 01:37:01.840
uh, cause it's only for the 15 or later. So if

01:37:01.840 --> 01:37:03.220
you have anything before that, you're not going

01:37:03.220 --> 01:37:04.699
to have the Apple intelligence, but I think it

01:37:04.699 --> 01:37:07.640
has to do with the way. Cause Siri now is going

01:37:07.640 --> 01:37:09.720
to be different. So if you have an Apple iPhone

01:37:09.720 --> 01:37:12.609
14 with Siri on it, It's not going to be the

01:37:12.609 --> 01:37:15.189
Siri that has it like the 15 and 16 with the

01:37:15.189 --> 01:37:18.289
Apple intelligence. So if you're asking Siri

01:37:18.289 --> 01:37:20.810
to do something, if it's connecting to one of

01:37:20.810 --> 01:37:22.949
those older machines, it might cause conflicts.

01:37:23.050 --> 01:37:24.789
I don't know. So I think that's what they're

01:37:24.789 --> 01:37:28.949
doing. I'm not 100 % sure. Right. Bobby, you

01:37:28.949 --> 01:37:30.210
want to come on and say something for Bobby's

01:37:30.210 --> 01:37:32.350
World? Again, Chad, I peed right before we got

01:37:32.350 --> 01:37:35.310
on here, but now we're 40 in. That's creeping

01:37:35.310 --> 01:37:37.710
up on me, too. That's all right. I'm starting

01:37:37.710 --> 01:37:41.880
to think you don't like my segment. I know you're

01:37:41.880 --> 01:37:43.960
trying to always cut off Bobby with your pissing,

01:37:43.960 --> 01:37:46.500
man. What the fuck? I'm literally going to bring

01:37:46.500 --> 01:37:48.539
a bottle down here next time, but it's like literally

01:37:48.539 --> 01:37:52.180
at the head, and I'm pinching it back so I don't

01:37:52.180 --> 01:37:55.199
piss my pants. But go ahead, Bobby. Keep in mind.

01:37:55.420 --> 01:37:57.779
I got to go. Depends. We're going to get Depends

01:37:57.779 --> 01:38:01.600
to fucking sponsor the show. Yes. That's a fucking

01:38:01.600 --> 01:38:05.359
good idea, man. That is a good idea. All right.

01:38:06.180 --> 01:38:08.920
Chad was talking about the citizen's arrest.

01:38:09.539 --> 01:38:12.340
Yeah. I mean, the citizens, the FBI pulling up

01:38:12.340 --> 01:38:14.600
on the citizen. Oh, yeah, that's the video I

01:38:14.600 --> 01:38:17.079
watched. Exactly. Yes. Here's the video. I want

01:38:17.079 --> 01:38:24.840
you guys to see it. It's crazy. Yeah. How are

01:38:24.840 --> 01:38:30.079
you? Here we are. Can you give your full name,

01:38:30.140 --> 01:38:35.779
please? Is that sufficient to identify as the

01:38:35.779 --> 01:38:39.279
only one O'Donnell affiliated with the FBI? Could

01:38:39.279 --> 01:38:41.159
you please state your full name, sir? Could you

01:38:41.159 --> 01:38:43.680
please stop recording? No. It's First Amendment

01:38:43.680 --> 01:38:47.380
right. What's your name, sir? Could you stop

01:38:47.380 --> 01:38:49.399
recording, please? Absolutely not. You can show

01:38:49.399 --> 01:38:50.960
me your name and identification, or I'm going

01:38:50.960 --> 01:38:54.220
to go back inside my house. Okay. I don't really

01:38:54.220 --> 01:38:57.060
want to broadcast. Oh, this is going out right

01:38:57.060 --> 01:38:59.880
after you guys walk away. So you can show me

01:38:59.880 --> 01:39:02.239
your name or ID. You can walk away. We just want

01:39:02.239 --> 01:39:05.420
to talk to you. I'm not going to talk to people

01:39:05.420 --> 01:39:06.979
who claim to be federal agents unless they can

01:39:06.979 --> 01:39:11.579
show me identification. You see our badges. I

01:39:11.579 --> 01:39:13.979
need to see, is your full name on that badge?

01:39:14.159 --> 01:39:16.460
No. I'd like to see something with your full

01:39:16.460 --> 01:39:18.460
name or I'm not going to talk to you. I prefer

01:39:18.460 --> 01:39:20.859
you not to broadcast it. This will be going online

01:39:20.859 --> 01:39:24.880
as soon as you walk away. All I want to do is

01:39:24.880 --> 01:39:27.619
talk to you about a post that was made. I want

01:39:27.619 --> 01:39:32.439
to talk to you about you guys coming here. Say

01:39:32.439 --> 01:39:35.319
you make a salary of, I don't know what, low

01:39:35.319 --> 01:39:38.479
100K. You guys making six figures? Factor in

01:39:38.479 --> 01:39:41.899
50 % expenses overhead, maybe 100 % expenses.

01:39:43.180 --> 01:39:45.119
Talking about burning a couple hundred dollars

01:39:45.119 --> 01:39:47.460
an hour just here, let alone all the time you

01:39:47.460 --> 01:39:49.680
guys are spending to investigate something that

01:39:49.680 --> 01:39:52.239
you know is not against the law, right? So then

01:39:52.239 --> 01:39:55.420
why would you come? Because we wanted to make

01:39:55.420 --> 01:39:57.359
sure that there weren't any threats. No, you're

01:39:57.359 --> 01:40:00.720
coming because you're part of a regime that does

01:40:00.720 --> 01:40:02.979
this kind of thing when you know laws aren't

01:40:02.979 --> 01:40:05.380
being broken. And that's an embarrassment, man.

01:40:05.880 --> 01:40:07.500
Didn't you guys read the Constitution? Do you

01:40:07.500 --> 01:40:10.000
not believe in America? Like, how do you do your

01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:12.890
jobs and go home? We appreciate it. You're walking

01:40:12.890 --> 01:40:15.229
away because nothing we did is against the law.

01:40:15.409 --> 01:40:18.369
And you guys are fuckheads that try to act like

01:40:18.369 --> 01:40:20.869
bullies. And I hope you go home and are embarrassed.

01:40:20.970 --> 01:40:24.369
You can't even say your name on camera because

01:40:24.369 --> 01:40:26.229
you know that what you're doing is embarrassing.

01:40:26.350 --> 01:40:28.590
You know, Americans that believe in the Constitution

01:40:28.590 --> 01:40:30.930
think you're laughable. And you go home and you

01:40:30.930 --> 01:40:33.689
think about what you did today. Go home and think

01:40:33.689 --> 01:40:38.109
about it. You coward. Yo, how about that guy?

01:40:39.409 --> 01:40:42.369
Like, 100 % correct. Like, what is this? The

01:40:42.369 --> 01:40:44.350
fucking Soviet Union sending out the minions

01:40:44.350 --> 01:40:46.649
to go investigate somebody because of something

01:40:46.649 --> 01:40:49.050
they said online? Like, that's called First Amendment.

01:40:49.170 --> 01:40:51.930
Unless it's particularly threatening, great.

01:40:52.050 --> 01:40:54.149
That's one thing. But, like, just to post something

01:40:54.149 --> 01:40:56.750
that's anti -Kamala and then they send out the

01:40:56.750 --> 01:41:00.229
FBI to go fucking check out? And how are these

01:41:00.229 --> 01:41:02.409
FBI agents just allowed to say, hi, I'm so -and

01:41:02.409 --> 01:41:04.289
-so from the FBI. I need to talk to you without

01:41:04.289 --> 01:41:06.970
showing you proper credentials. Anybody could

01:41:06.970 --> 01:41:10.409
claim to be this person from the FBI. Of course.

01:41:11.460 --> 01:41:15.439
Right. Aye, aye, aye, bro. This is what the blue

01:41:15.439 --> 01:41:18.960
team breeds, this kind of bullshit. That's scary

01:41:18.960 --> 01:41:21.659
fucking behavior, the fact. And God bless that

01:41:21.659 --> 01:41:24.279
private citizen that stood his ground and spoke

01:41:24.279 --> 01:41:26.659
to them eloquently like he did and fucking put

01:41:26.659 --> 01:41:29.119
them in their place. And they realized real quickly,

01:41:29.199 --> 01:41:30.840
like, oh, shit, we're fucking around with somebody

01:41:30.840 --> 01:41:36.100
who's got an IQ above 50. We can't do. For all

01:41:36.100 --> 01:41:37.680
you lefties out there that are like, oh, this

01:41:37.680 --> 01:41:39.600
is great. I should go out and question people.

01:41:39.819 --> 01:41:43.579
When the tables are turned and it's now – and

01:41:43.579 --> 01:41:45.260
I don't think the conservatives would do this

01:41:45.260 --> 01:41:47.260
or the Republicans, but if the tables are ever

01:41:47.260 --> 01:41:49.840
turned and some people are sending out – the

01:41:49.840 --> 01:41:51.979
FBI just talked to you because of shit you're

01:41:51.979 --> 01:41:54.800
posting. Exactly. How are you going to feel?

01:41:55.239 --> 01:41:58.279
Right. I guarantee you those lefties are going

01:41:58.279 --> 01:41:59.640
to be like, it's my First Amendment right. They're

01:41:59.640 --> 01:42:02.380
going to jump right on it, and it is. But the

01:42:02.380 --> 01:42:05.109
point is – the lefties are sending out the fucking

01:42:05.109 --> 01:42:07.829
fbi to talk to these people for no reason for

01:42:07.829 --> 01:42:11.590
no reason no fucking reason we'll leave it there

01:42:11.590 --> 01:42:14.510
folks because one of your hosts oh bobby sharing

01:42:14.510 --> 01:42:18.609
something again all right this is this is uh

01:42:18.609 --> 01:42:22.329
this is sean combs um i don't know if i can do

01:42:22.329 --> 01:42:25.489
it i don't know if i can do it bob all right

01:42:25.489 --> 01:42:32.100
well this is really quick this is just This is

01:42:32.100 --> 01:42:35.760
all the weapons that's down there. Holy shit.

01:42:36.380 --> 01:42:41.119
Look at this guy. Wow. That's some serious fucking

01:42:41.119 --> 01:42:44.020
thing. Send me that video. I want to watch that.

01:42:44.300 --> 01:42:46.720
Yes. Send it to us. We'll put it in the description.

01:42:47.300 --> 01:42:51.479
Folks, we love you. I'm sorry. I do got to go.

01:42:51.920 --> 01:42:53.920
Gracious audience, please like, share, follow.

01:42:54.300 --> 01:42:56.180
We will see you next Tuesday. Chad, we need to

01:42:56.180 --> 01:42:58.180
do the Instagram. We'll do it this week. That

01:42:58.180 --> 01:43:00.970
was on me. All right. Peace. All right, people.

01:43:01.050 --> 01:43:03.390
Later. Peace. Peace. See you, Bobby. Thanks.