The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 057 - Sean Fay

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Preparing. Setting it up. And we are live, ladies

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and gentlemen. Yes, sir. Show 57, dude. Yeah.

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Heinz 57. Bill will be proud. Yeah. Go, Hynes.

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Go, Hynes. We all know that Hynes is different

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in America than it is overseas, Europe and all

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that jazz. Well, I mean, did you see those food?

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They were having all these hearings about the

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food system on Capitol Hill. Great that, you

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know, when Trump gets in, that Bobby Kennedy's.

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Going to be heading up that department and trying

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to fix that bullshit. Yeah. I mean, there's like

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massive amount of ingredients that are in our

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food that's not in anybody else's food. For instance,

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like breakfast cereals for kids loaded with dyes,

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like shitty petroleum -based horrible -for -you

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dyes that are causing – probably causing hormone

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disruption in kids, all kinds of problems. Banned

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in Canada. right and everywhere else but here

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in america great put in your red dye 40 and your

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blue four and whatever the fuck the cut the numbers

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are and but in other countries are banned like

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because they're like um yeah the kids don't need

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to be eating this stuff and it's just for looks

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it's not like it has any sort of nutritional

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value or anything like that most countries have

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figured out ways to use more natural well natural

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products to make to make the colors right And

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they don't look as vibrant, but who cares? Some

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little kids can be like, I don't eat those Lucky

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Charms. They don't look vibrant enough to me.

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Like, whatever. I don't care. Right. They still

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got all the sugar in them that the kids are searching

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for. I mean, that's a whole different subject.

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But the dyes themselves, they're horrible for

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you. They're fucking horrible for you. Even my

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kids know this. They always try to avoid dyes.

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I got to start doing it more. I mean, like I

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said, I eat relatively healthy, but shit like

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that should not be things that we have to worry

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about as food consumers in America. Does it look

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too green? Because it probably is, and they're

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dying it with whatever. The FDA, Big Food, and

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Big Farmer are all in bed together. Yeah. So

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don't worry. There's nothing corrupt going on.

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No. They're all for your safety. They're looking

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out for your safety. Right. As long as they can

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make a shit ton of profit from it. Exactly. That's

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the shitty part of capitalism is that it's all

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for profit and at the peril a lot of times of

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us. I mean, for fuck's sake, Mexico has better

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Coca -Cola than we do because they put real sugar

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in it. Crazy. Mexico. Yeah. Run by cartels. Right.

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but they have enough sense to ban high fructose

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corn syrup okay hey now fucking tards yeah so

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what what is that though because it's because

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it's not the cartel that cares about that must

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be like their food and drug administration and

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bobby says they should put cocaine back in coke

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yeah well they should yeah definitely i mean

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what's what's what could be worse yeah I mean,

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it's just as natural as sugar, right? I mean,

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the way it grows. It is plant -based. Yeah, coca.

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You want plant -based? Okay, got plant -based.

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That's funny, though. I got to wonder. Yeah,

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I mean, you never know, like, if all the things

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that they made illegal as far as drug -wise and

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stuff goes, like, are not as bad as they say.

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And, you know, it's just this is the way my head

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is going ever since. COVID -19. I can't believe

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anything that I've thought was true for so long.

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Well, Joe Rogan has that great joke. He's like,

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before COVID, I was like, I'm all for vaccines,

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the greatest inventions ever made, blah, blah,

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blah, great for humanity. After COVID, I don't

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know if we landed on the moon. Yeah, and he's

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right. Meaning, like, so many things have become

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that were conspiracies during COVID became real.

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So it's like, you start questioning everything

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around you, except for the sheeple that don't

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give a fuck and just walk blindly through everything

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oh i don't see that over there oh no cnn told

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me not to look at that okay great let's oh i'll

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look over here yeah hi it's so straight it is

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retarded man it's like i just it just doesn't

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make sense to me i mean i i guess they say ignorance

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is bliss and i kind of understand it to a certain

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extent but my god Yeah, sometimes you have to

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get involved and figure out what's happening

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to you. And now you have a candidate selected

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for you by the fucking – the Democrat elite who

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is not giving you any idea what the fuck she's

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going to do in office. Fucking avoids every question

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she's ever asked, never answers a question, never

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has hardball questions because the media just

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treats her like Joe Biden in his basement. And

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like Kevin O 'Leary said in this interview he

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did, he's like, this is unprecedented. You've

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never had a candidate who offers none of her

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policies to anyone, doesn't tell you what she's

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going to do, or she'll let some little thing

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slip out and sound so fucking crazy they have

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to pull it back, like price gouging and setting

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prices for groceries. Like, that's retarded and

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stupid. And so you have a selected candidate.

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You have someone who will not tell you what they're

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going to do. Just wait until I get in office.

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Okay. Great. But shouldn't the people who are

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actually running her campaign be like, all right,

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you need a platform now. Some of the people that

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are running her campaign are telling her not

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to fucking do this. Right. Because they know

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she's a puppet. She'll be a figurehead puppet

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just like fucking Biden was for Obama. This is

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Obama's fourth term you're going to try to get

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here. Even though we know they're going to do

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their own agenda anyway and whatever they say

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is bullshit, at least. pretend like you have

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uh something that you're going to run on and

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well they don't have to because the media doesn't

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call them out on no one no one calls them out

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on it so they don't have to do anything they

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do whatever the fuck they want and they're just

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gonna hide her fucking jokey cackling ass until

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she gets an office and then it'll be like okay

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oh anything that we said we're not gonna do now

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control the border give me a fucking break Yeah,

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give us a fucking break is right, but please,

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like, give us a break, like, stat, man, before

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this really shit goes to hell in a handbag because...

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Yeah, so you got one candidate who's hired, like,

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who has the super team around him. You got fucking

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Vivek, you got Elon Musk, you got Tulsi Gabbard,

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you got Bobby Kennedy, and he's the bad guy because

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they want to go in and, you know... have a government

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accountability office and shave off all the fucking

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bureaucracy and get our food system better and,

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you know, raise our status around the world again,

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get our military back in shape, fucking get up,

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make us energy independent again. And then you

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have a candidate who doesn't tell you what she's

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going to do. Hmm. And that's the good guy. Like

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what? As we always say, it's upside down world.

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It makes no fucking sense except for. the sheeple

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that just follow along with the shit it's insane

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right and i just can't even believe we're living

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through it it's fucking wild and the thing she'll

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tell you that she is for now because they're

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you know popular talking points you know like

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she's for fracking now which it's clear she's

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been totally against it for years upon years

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but now when she's in a state of pennsylvania

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and it's a popular thing to do fracking oh i'm

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for it i would never bet yeah it's just surf

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oh yeah it's fucking nuts drives you crazy it

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drives you crazy man the fact just panders to

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whoever she's in front of she changes her accent

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she changes her fucking you know what she's for

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what she's against just based on who she's standing

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in front of and that's who you want to be president

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i just didn't think it was that easy man like

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i thought you needed more to it than just that

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you know like i thought you needed to have some

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proven like you know when you go to get hired

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for a job they want to look at your resume what

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you've done in the past to kind of prove what

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you do in the future yeah don't look at her past

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no no it's funny like the most important job

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in the world you don't have to go against things

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that you've done or you know you know have a

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plan or anything you just kind of go in and get

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by with fucking nothing and all lies bullshit

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yep and selected yep Just hear someone, no votes,

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no one fucking voted for her. And you're just

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supposed to like her because the news tells you

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to. And you're just supposed to love that. Okay,

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what's she going to do? We don't really fucking

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know, but it doesn't matter because we don't

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care. Should we get into politics and just bullshit

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them along to the point to where we get in and

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then we actually do stuff good for the people

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like we pretend like we're playing ball with

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them and like, oh, yeah, we'll kind of do whatever.

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And then we get voted in. We're like, no, now

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we're going to actually. Well, you already have

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a guy that actually did that. Yeah. Who said

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what he was going to do and did everything he

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could to do those things was blocked at every

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turn because of the fucking asshole Democrats

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and some of the rhino dickheads, too. Yeah. And.

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Do you have – I mean I remember when Trump got

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in office and he did shit that he said he was

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going to do, and even the mainstream media is

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like, oh my god, he's doing things he said he's

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going to do. Oh, this is weird. But yet he's

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going to destroy democracy and they can't let

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him back in at all costs and blah, blah, blah,

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blah, blah. Yeah, okay. Kamala's better for you

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because she's done a lot. Yeah, she's done a

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lot of nothing. She's done a lot of – you basically

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didn't know what she was doing as the VP. She

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barely spoke to the people during that time.

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You barely knew where she was, what her schedule

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was because she was a puppet. And then you have

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an administration who wants to censor you, has

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– and there were some judges that ruled that

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the government did commit censorship. And was

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trying to stop – I don't know what the judge

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was, but basically the government and its administration

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is appealing that ruling so they can censor you.

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And then you have John Kerry in an interview

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saying that the First Amendment needs to be changed

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so we can combat misinformation. Who the fuck

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are these people, and who actually hears that

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and goes, oh, yeah, that's a good idea? Are you

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that fucking brainwashed that you have an official

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like John Kerry telling you that the First Amendment

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needs to be changed so that we can combat misinformation?

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Who determines what that is? Right. And so today

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it's this misinformation that's good for your

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party. Yeah. But tomorrow it's going to be misinformation

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that you don't like. So what are you going to

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do then? Right. And that's the thing I don't

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get, Chad, is that John Kerry was somebody who

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was always for the First Amendment and all that

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stuff. And now all of a sudden he's saying we

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got to change it so we could combat disinformation.

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What? That's the whole Democrat Party now. I

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mean, it's the party of war. It's the party of

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censorship. Yeah. It's fucking insane. But that's

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how you get rid of disinformation, by having

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free speech, so you can get the other side of

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it. No. Yes. We have a sitting Supreme Court

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Justice that said the same thing. Katonji Jackson,

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whatever the fuck her name is. She said that

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the First Amendment gets in the way of the government

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doing its job. What? You mean the government

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that's supposed to be for the people, by the

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people, and all that? Yeah. Come on, man. It's

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not for the government. And guess what party

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she's in. Let's think about it. Oh, Democrat.

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That's right. Yeah, she's for the Democrat. Got

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it. Got it. The party of censorship, war, violence,

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open borders. Yeah. The party that keeps shooting

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at the president, the party that keeps fucking,

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you know, letting all the illegals in, killing

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people, and then they tell you, oh, no, the crime

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stats are down because the FBI is literally not

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reporting crime in big cities. They're not reporting

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it. Right. And then they tell you that the crime's

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down. like a wild and and people just fall for

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it like oh yeah crime's down look i can tell

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in la that no one's getting raped murdered and

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fucking assaulted and mugged yeah don't worry

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about it it's all good well chad let's just pretend

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that the first uh assassination attempt what

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was that guy 20 years old something like that

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yeah 20 years old who's a republican yeah okay

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regardless of anything what he has heard since

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he was 14 years old, we'll just say the past

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six years, is that this guy Trump running for

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president is going to be a dictator, start World

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War III. And these are thoughts in your brain

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as your brain is forming at 14. He's a threat

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to democracy. That's what they tell you all day

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long from the top down, from Biden on down, that

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he's a threat to democracy. What do you think

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is going to happen? Right. And then they never

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there's never a follow up of like, well, how

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is he a threat to democracy? There's never a

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question about that. Just they just say the statement.

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No one ever questions them. And then you have

00:14:00.259 --> 00:14:03.279
lunatics out there hearing this shit. Yeah. Yeah.

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And what do they expect people to do with that

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when it's literally their rhetoric like that?

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They're saying, like, you can't let this guy

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get into power. He's going to do this. He's going

00:14:11.980 --> 00:14:14.059
to. Right. We must stop him at all costs. Like,

00:14:14.059 --> 00:14:16.480
what is their rhetoric? And then when he gets

00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:18.740
shot at, they blame him. Oh, he needs to tone

00:14:18.740 --> 00:14:22.399
down his rhetoric. It's like. What? Yeah. His

00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:26.899
people trying to shoot Kamala? Is he saying Kamala's

00:14:26.899 --> 00:14:28.440
a threat to democracy? He said he doesn't like

00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:30.580
her as a candidate, and Joe Biden's a horrible

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president, but he doesn't call them a threat

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to democracy. He doesn't, you know, and then

00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:37.899
they're like, January 6th. Like, fuck you with

00:14:37.899 --> 00:14:41.179
January 6th. Bullshit, man. It's all set up so

00:14:41.179 --> 00:14:44.019
they could fucking have you say January 6th.

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Oh, look, it's an insurrectionist. Okay. Yeah.

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If he would have done what they are doing to

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him in – so in other words, once he got elected

00:14:52.740 --> 00:14:56.679
in 2016, if he actually started to go after criminally

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his political opponents like they're going after

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him for actual crimes, he kind of wouldn't be

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in this place. But he knew that that was a bad

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look for American politics and for our government,

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so he didn't do it because he didn't want that.

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They had all the evidence in the world to go

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after Hillary. Yeah. They have all the evidence

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in the world to go after Biden and his fucking

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clan. Right. Well, anyway. Let's go to our guest.

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We have a cool guest coming on. His name is Sean

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Fay. Gracious audience out there. Good friend

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of Chad. They've known each other for a long

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time. He's an agent to some Hollywood people.

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What up, Sean? Manager. What's up, Sean? Can

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you hear us? Can you? Hey, guys. What's up? Can

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you hear us? Strike number one. Boston hat. Uh

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-oh, I forgot. Yankees fan. That's right. If

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you have that audio button to the left. Oh, you

00:16:01.899 --> 00:16:06.120
can't. You guys, can you hear me? Yes. We can

00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:10.019
hear you, yes. There's usually to the bottom

00:16:10.019 --> 00:16:14.039
left like an audio button where you can text

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me. Bottom left, there's an audio button. Yeah,

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where you could usually click the up. My first

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and probably last podcast. We love technical

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difficulties. Okay. Yo. Okay. Sorry. Sorry, guys.

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Sorry about that. You got it? Yes. You can hear

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us? Yes, sir. We can hear you? Yes, sir. We're

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on. All right. Love it. Yes, sir. Hello, gentlemen.

00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:50.379
Good. Hello, John. Hey, Sean. Who's Robert Hayes?

00:16:50.820 --> 00:16:54.419
Is he coming? He's coming, literally. He's probably

00:16:54.419 --> 00:16:57.539
coming, maybe. He stays off camera. He's like

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that CNN guy. Bobby is our producer. He's like

00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:07.880
our Jamie. Young Bobby, who's older than both

00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:11.759
me and Chad combined. He's 130 years old. He's

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a mythical creature. Sean, are you in LA? Yes,

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sir. I am in LA. I'm in the office. I moved down

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to a different office so I could have some peace

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and quiet here. Nice. We should be good to chat.

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I come in the office every day, actually. I know

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a lot of folks enjoy working from home these

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days, which is whatever, but I'm more productive

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in the office, personally. It's my routine. You

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know what I mean? It works better for me. Yeah,

00:17:45.430 --> 00:17:48.049
that's cool. When did you, did you return as

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soon as you could to the office? Man, I never

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left. Yeah. During the, well, during the pandemic,

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I came, me and there's another manager here and

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we came every day and yeah, I just had, you know,

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like I said, it, it, it helped me also just sort

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of keep a sense of, of, of normalcy in my life,

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you know? And, and so. And then, you know, last

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year during the strike, that was, I wasn't coming

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in. I was on the East Coast, you know, quite

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a bit. So I wasn't, you know, I wasn't in the

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office as much. But it's just my, like I said,

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I'm a little bit more old school. I've been doing

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this for a long time. And my productive space

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is in the office. That makes sense. Are you still

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in the same office on Sunset there? No. No, no,

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no. That was a different company. I'm in West

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LA now. Sepulveda area. So, yeah. Cool. I got

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to just ask the question. How'd you become a

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Botox fan, man? Oh, I'm from Connecticut. Ah.

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So, you know, the state is wedged between Boston

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and New York City. And I grew up two hours from

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each city, but just growing up. You know, the

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state is split, you know, but my dad was like,

00:19:04.390 --> 00:19:06.930
look, we root for Boston in this house. That's

00:19:06.930 --> 00:19:09.589
how it worked out, you know. Patriots. Greg.

00:19:10.029 --> 00:19:13.289
Red Sox. Greg laid it down for you. He said,

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okay, boys. He made it easy, right? I mean, it

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was tough rooting for the Patriots when I was

00:19:18.309 --> 00:19:21.809
growing up and the Red Sox too, but it all kind

00:19:21.809 --> 00:19:26.190
of worked out. So, yeah. Tortured fan base for

00:19:26.190 --> 00:19:28.839
a while, so. Yeah. But, but yeah, so I'm from

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Connecticut. I went to Yukon and then I moved

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out here in the, in the mid nineties. Yeah. So

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you just said something pretty funny. Yeah. So

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you had a bunch of shitty years before your team

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actually, your teams became good and they were

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doing stuff. So you, you hung in there for the

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long haul. Yeah. Reap the bennies later in life.

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Absolutely. It seems to be a parade every other

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year now, you know? So I'm spoiled. And then

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between being a UConn fan, because I went to

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UConn, so there's just a lot of celebrations

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going on. I feel bad for fan bases that just

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have nothing to celebrate. Rock on. I'm spoiled.

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Sean, can you tell me what a manager does do?

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Because I'm completely ignorant to what an agent

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is for people, managers, all that stuff. So if

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you could kind of walk us through what entails

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for the manager. Yeah, I'll just give you a general

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breakdown. I mean, most actors, most working

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actors have an agent and a manager, right? And

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I would say the manager is more of a day -to

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-day strategic planning, long -term, you know,

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where the agents are equally as important. Agents

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work more on a... on a higher volume, let's say.

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So you may, if it, depending on the size of the

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agency, you know, if you're an agent, a covering

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agent projects, you could be responsible for

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say 50, 60, 70 clients and managers typically

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have less and should have the time to be a little

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bit more proactive and, but, but, but working

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very closely with the, with, with the agent,

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you know? So for example, if there's a project

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and I have a good, uh relationship with with

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either the casting director or maybe some of

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the producers i'll call the agent and say hey

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you know i know this person well and let me see

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if i can get so and so in or get them a meeting

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and or sometimes they'll have the relationship

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as well you know so it just it's um it behooves

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uh the actor and all of us for for the agent

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and the manager to kind of work closely together

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but it's you know typically let's say it's time

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to consider bringing out an attorney because

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the deals are getting more complicated I will,

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you know, sort of broach that with the agent

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as well, but the client. And sometimes it's about,

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you know, it's a time for a publicist, right?

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Because maybe you have a show coming out or a

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new film coming out and it's a big role. And

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so it's an opportunity to get some press. So

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should we hire a publicist for that? A little

00:22:06.140 --> 00:22:08.380
bit more steering of the ship, but it is a big

00:22:08.380 --> 00:22:10.400
team effort, if that makes sense. Yeah, absolutely.

00:22:10.859 --> 00:22:14.000
And the music industry, I think it's kind of

00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:16.619
the same. The manager deals with the artist directly,

00:22:16.839 --> 00:22:19.220
day -to -day, like you said. And it's kind of

00:22:19.220 --> 00:22:22.740
the overarching, I don't know, umbrella. He's

00:22:22.740 --> 00:22:25.160
on top of the umbrella, making sure everyone's

00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:29.200
working. Sure. Yeah. Sure. The agent's doing

00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:31.160
what he needs to do. And he's, like you said,

00:22:31.180 --> 00:22:33.079
hiring the publicist, the lawyer. He's kind of

00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:38.599
like the tour manager. Yeah, exactly. But, but,

00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:41.019
you know, we'll get the, if some, if something

00:22:41.019 --> 00:22:43.380
goes down, hopefully, but you know, something

00:22:43.380 --> 00:22:46.099
not great is going or whatever, I'll usually

00:22:46.099 --> 00:22:51.299
get the call first, but, but, you know, maybe

00:22:51.299 --> 00:22:53.220
late night or whatever, but that doesn't happen

00:22:53.220 --> 00:22:57.059
a lot. It doesn't happen. Yeah. The other manager's

00:22:57.059 --> 00:23:01.460
key role, bad news first. And then exactly. That's

00:23:01.460 --> 00:23:04.000
exactly right. So does that make sense, John?

00:23:04.430 --> 00:23:07.910
A hundred percent. Do we work off of percentages?

00:23:08.089 --> 00:23:12.650
Do we have like another word? Yeah. 10%. Managers

00:23:12.650 --> 00:23:16.289
are 10%. Agents are 10. And attorneys are five.

00:23:16.829 --> 00:23:21.730
Ooh. Business managers five too. Say it again.

00:23:21.869 --> 00:23:24.150
Business managers are five as well. They can

00:23:24.150 --> 00:23:26.250
be, but they also work. Some of them work on

00:23:26.250 --> 00:23:28.670
an hourly. It just, it just, it just depends.

00:23:28.890 --> 00:23:33.299
But so, you know, Actors, generally speaking,

00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:37.680
if you're... Look, I don't handle their finances,

00:23:37.819 --> 00:23:40.819
but you have to sort of tell them, especially

00:23:40.819 --> 00:23:45.279
the younger actors, you know, artists sometimes

00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:49.680
aren't great with finances. And that's not a

00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:52.180
shot at artists. It's just that they just think

00:23:52.180 --> 00:23:54.900
differently, you know? And so if they think,

00:23:54.940 --> 00:23:58.380
oh, I'm going to make this up, $100 ,000 on a

00:23:58.380 --> 00:24:01.680
film... well after taxes and commission you're

00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:03.680
going to see about half of that you know so it's

00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:08.039
you know if you or let's say i remember years

00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:10.940
ago i had a young client and he he didn't have

00:24:10.940 --> 00:24:13.099
he hardly had any money i think i think he made

00:24:13.099 --> 00:24:15.380
fifty thousand dollars on a movie the week and

00:24:15.380 --> 00:24:17.720
he and he called me and he's all excited he wanted

00:24:17.720 --> 00:24:20.940
to go buy a bmw i'm like you're like whoa buddy

00:24:20.940 --> 00:24:24.940
i said talk to your account about this but that

00:24:24.940 --> 00:24:29.950
you know you're 50 equals 25. Right. And so it's

00:24:29.950 --> 00:24:31.569
not time. I don't think it's time to buy the

00:24:31.569 --> 00:24:34.970
BMW, maybe next job, you know? So again, I, I

00:24:34.970 --> 00:24:38.170
don't like, I don't feel comfortable giving financial

00:24:38.170 --> 00:24:41.069
advice to clients, but the basics, you know,

00:24:41.069 --> 00:24:43.289
have, you know, the basics we'll talk about.

00:24:43.390 --> 00:24:46.430
Like don't buy a BMW with 25 grand. Yeah. Yeah.

00:24:46.710 --> 00:24:51.789
Yeah. Next, next big job. How about that? Yeah.

00:24:52.569 --> 00:24:55.599
Yeah. In a completely different sense, the creative

00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:58.140
talent that you're dealing with, probably they

00:24:58.140 --> 00:24:59.819
can do the numbers side of it if they wanted

00:24:59.819 --> 00:25:01.700
to, but that's not where their brain is at mostly.

00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:03.900
They're on the creative side and following their

00:25:03.900 --> 00:25:07.319
art and passion. Yeah, and it's not all of them,

00:25:07.380 --> 00:25:09.900
but I just think the artist's brain, and again,

00:25:10.019 --> 00:25:12.220
this is not a shot at anybody, it's just the

00:25:12.220 --> 00:25:14.039
artist's brain works a little differently, so

00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:18.680
they're not so focused on finances. Sure. Without

00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:22.710
mentioning names, have we had any? unruly clients

00:25:22.710 --> 00:25:25.250
where we're like, oh man, we can't dial this

00:25:25.250 --> 00:25:27.849
guy in. Here's such great opportunities for him

00:25:27.849 --> 00:25:32.089
or her, but they got their head so far up their

00:25:32.089 --> 00:25:35.109
own ass type of deal that they can't get out

00:25:35.109 --> 00:25:39.349
of the way. Meaning clients or actors that just

00:25:39.349 --> 00:25:43.619
weren't able to book any jobs. yeah so in other

00:25:43.619 --> 00:25:46.000
words like you you you know you're dealing with

00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:49.019
their agent and you as the manager and the agent

00:25:49.019 --> 00:25:50.940
like this is a great opportunity for this person

00:25:50.940 --> 00:25:53.920
but they're kind of like oh this is beneath me

00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:57.819
type of deal like is there sometimes sometimes

00:25:57.819 --> 00:26:03.539
you know but it's you know it's just most most

00:26:03.539 --> 00:26:06.200
actors want to work right so so if it's you know

00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:10.849
so if so if it's something that um is uh is works

00:26:10.849 --> 00:26:13.170
with them creatively there's a it's a role that

00:26:13.170 --> 00:26:16.289
they that they um want to do and they and they

00:26:16.289 --> 00:26:17.690
feel like there's people that they want you know

00:26:17.690 --> 00:26:21.049
they want to work with um then it's usually not

00:26:21.049 --> 00:26:24.170
that it's just about like okay well how much

00:26:24.170 --> 00:26:26.309
are how much are we getting paid you know can

00:26:26.309 --> 00:26:29.990
we negotiate more and other deal points um sometimes

00:26:29.990 --> 00:26:32.289
it's an obvious pass it's an obvious no right

00:26:32.289 --> 00:26:36.579
because it's The script's not good and the role

00:26:36.579 --> 00:26:39.960
is not particularly fun and the money is terrible.

00:26:40.140 --> 00:26:43.259
So it's, you know, and, but that's the conversation

00:26:43.259 --> 00:26:46.140
that we have, sort of weighing the pros and cons

00:26:46.140 --> 00:26:51.059
of it all. And so, I mean, I'm trying to answer

00:26:51.059 --> 00:26:54.140
your question. It's not like I've had, I've been

00:26:54.140 --> 00:26:55.980
lucky where I haven't had like super difficult

00:26:55.980 --> 00:26:59.380
clients over the years. wonderful people but

00:26:59.380 --> 00:27:02.099
um but it's more of a it's more of like a business

00:27:02.099 --> 00:27:05.619
conversation you know like does this make sense

00:27:05.619 --> 00:27:07.940
to do at this point in your career or maybe there's

00:27:07.940 --> 00:27:09.539
other things going on or maybe the career is

00:27:09.539 --> 00:27:12.180
going so well that there's there's multiple there's

00:27:12.180 --> 00:27:14.240
multiple options you know you have a couple of

00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:16.880
offers and it's i mean that's these are first

00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:19.019
class problems but like which one do we choose

00:27:19.019 --> 00:27:22.339
you know and it you can you can't predict this

00:27:22.339 --> 00:27:25.109
stuff you know it's i mean art especially as

00:27:25.109 --> 00:27:27.509
collaborative art is really difficult to predict

00:27:27.509 --> 00:27:29.869
meaning like what is you could have all the best

00:27:29.869 --> 00:27:33.069
elements of a show right the amazing producers

00:27:33.069 --> 00:27:35.490
and writers and actors and it doesn't mean it's

00:27:35.490 --> 00:27:38.690
going to turn out great right and then and then

00:27:38.690 --> 00:27:41.569
sometimes the underdog the underdog and you're

00:27:41.569 --> 00:27:43.789
like wow who would have thought like that little

00:27:43.789 --> 00:27:49.910
indie film um went to you know sundance and then

00:27:49.910 --> 00:27:52.589
once won a festival and then get got picked up

00:27:52.589 --> 00:27:56.779
by you know studio and so you just never i mean

00:27:56.779 --> 00:27:59.960
you try to you try to go in with you know it

00:27:59.960 --> 00:28:02.420
starts with the material right starts with the

00:28:02.420 --> 00:28:05.740
script and and you try you try to go in with

00:28:05.740 --> 00:28:08.380
um you know the practical part of it and then

00:28:08.380 --> 00:28:13.119
and then the rest of it um is sort of in the

00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:15.559
hands of fate i have a client of mine i've been

00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:17.119
working with for a long time his name is nick

00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:19.359
stall and he did a he did an indie this was years

00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:21.440
ago 20 years ago or so he did an indie film called

00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:24.819
in the bedroom And I don't remember what the

00:28:24.819 --> 00:28:26.759
budget was, but Todd Field directed it. It was

00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:29.319
with Marissa Tomei and Tom Wilkinson and Sissy

00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:32.839
Spacek and Nicholas, one of the leads. And, you

00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:35.880
know, it was an indie film and it got, it started

00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:38.200
getting some traction at film festivals and then

00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:40.000
Miramax bought it. And then it got nominated

00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.880
for like three or four Academy Awards, you know?

00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:46.519
And so, but again, you can't, that's, especially

00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:48.980
in the indie film world, that stuff is hard to,

00:28:48.980 --> 00:28:53.500
it's hard to predict. So I, I always. We always

00:28:53.500 --> 00:28:56.099
try to frame it with our clients where it's like

00:28:56.099 --> 00:29:00.779
we want to give them all the information sort

00:29:00.779 --> 00:29:03.440
of laid out, and then ultimately it's their decision.

00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:08.700
I don't want to be the one who makes the decision.

00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:11.259
I will support what they want to do ultimately.

00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:14.779
But going back to your original question, I know

00:29:14.779 --> 00:29:18.680
I'm rambling a bit, but it's never gotten to

00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:21.220
where it's like a big argument over doing something

00:29:21.220 --> 00:29:23.779
or not. That's cool. At least for me. I'm sure

00:29:23.779 --> 00:29:26.019
it happens. At least for me, it hasn't. And how

00:29:26.019 --> 00:29:29.240
is Nick doing? He's great. I haven't seen him

00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:31.039
for a long time. He's great. He lives in Austin,

00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:33.319
Texas. I thought he was in Texas. Okay, that's

00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:38.200
cool. Yeah. And he's been working quite a bit.

00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:41.880
Indie films. Oh, great. Awesome. Series. And

00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.440
he did a film for Sony last year. And so, yeah,

00:29:45.500 --> 00:29:48.440
he's doing great. John, did you ever see Man

00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:52.190
Without a Face with Mel Gibson? I might have.

00:29:52.430 --> 00:29:54.529
Yeah, that was Nick's. Nick was the little kid

00:29:54.529 --> 00:29:57.809
in that. Was that his first role, Sean? It was

00:29:57.809 --> 00:30:01.150
his first big role, yeah. It was Mel Gibson's

00:30:01.150 --> 00:30:04.630
first film as a director as well. Ah, yes. I

00:30:04.630 --> 00:30:07.349
mean, he starred in it, but it was a... So anyway,

00:30:07.470 --> 00:30:10.410
Nick is the little boy or the young boy in that

00:30:10.410 --> 00:30:14.289
film. That was before I was working with him,

00:30:14.329 --> 00:30:17.130
but I've been working with Nick for over 25 years.

00:30:17.390 --> 00:30:20.630
Some of these relationships go back a long way.

00:30:20.869 --> 00:30:22.430
I was going to say, are you still doing Billy

00:30:22.430 --> 00:30:27.910
Campbell? Yeah. He lives in Norway because his

00:30:27.910 --> 00:30:33.529
wife is Norwegian. He works, but he spends his

00:30:33.529 --> 00:30:37.309
time on a farm outside of Oslo. um it's a it's

00:30:37.309 --> 00:30:40.109
her it's a family farm and so yeah yeah and he

00:30:40.109 --> 00:30:44.750
and he's got two kids and um he's enjoying his

00:30:44.750 --> 00:30:46.490
life that's a good way to get out of the rat

00:30:46.490 --> 00:30:50.549
race yeah it really is he really is and he's

00:30:50.549 --> 00:30:53.190
you know he's like i'm not coming back okay i

00:30:53.190 --> 00:30:56.109
don't blame you whatever works for you buddy

00:30:56.109 --> 00:30:58.809
whatever works you know are you are you still

00:30:58.809 --> 00:31:09.500
a man Baywatch years ago. There's actually a

00:31:09.500 --> 00:31:11.819
documentary out right now. It's really good.

00:31:11.940 --> 00:31:17.240
It's about Baywatch. It's on Hulu. I think I

00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:19.819
saw an advertisement for that. It's been getting

00:31:19.819 --> 00:31:24.180
some good notice. David is another guy I've been

00:31:24.180 --> 00:31:27.339
working with since the mid -90s. He's just a

00:31:27.339 --> 00:31:34.140
great dude. Great family. and we've been on some

00:31:34.140 --> 00:31:36.960
great uh it's been a while but over the years

00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.380
been on some we went on some some uh work trips

00:31:40.380 --> 00:31:45.799
together uh monte carlo one year for uh cbs had

00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:49.759
a had a show um it was a it's called champions

00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:53.119
of magic i mean this is 15 years ago and the

00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:59.259
royal family in monaco loved and they hosted

00:31:59.259 --> 00:32:03.160
this show. It was like a magic event. It was

00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:08.099
so random. And so David hosted this. It was special

00:32:08.099 --> 00:32:11.839
for CBS. It was a one -off with Princess Stephanie.

00:32:13.420 --> 00:32:16.299
So they flew us to Monte Carlo for, you know,

00:32:16.299 --> 00:32:18.779
five days. I mean, it was work, but it's like,

00:32:18.819 --> 00:32:20.700
you know, you're hosting a show in Monte Carlo.

00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:23.740
It's not that, you know, not super labor intensive,

00:32:23.900 --> 00:32:27.619
but, you know, over the years, we went, you know,

00:32:27.619 --> 00:32:30.160
we went to Argentina one year, David and I, and

00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:32.680
he did a personal appearance where they paid

00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:37.099
him quite a bit of money. And, you know, we flew

00:32:37.099 --> 00:32:41.150
to Argentina on the way down there. we the and

00:32:41.150 --> 00:32:42.890
one of the engines went out in the plane we were

00:32:42.890 --> 00:32:45.690
over the andes mountains i think i remember you

00:32:45.690 --> 00:32:48.490
telling me this story yes yeah so you can't land

00:32:48.490 --> 00:32:51.150
in the in the in the andes right so we had to

00:32:51.150 --> 00:32:54.450
we had to sort of coast if one engine you're

00:32:54.450 --> 00:32:56.450
you're okay but we didn't it was just this loud

00:32:56.450 --> 00:32:58.609
explosion and everyone's just sort of like what's

00:32:58.609 --> 00:33:01.329
going on here so we landed in bolivia at this

00:33:01.329 --> 00:33:07.089
tiny airport and like the the rescue crew was

00:33:07.089 --> 00:33:09.210
it was like a guy in like a pickup truck and

00:33:09.210 --> 00:33:11.529
there was like a cow next to him the guy was

00:33:11.529 --> 00:33:14.490
holding a hose you know it's like what you know

00:33:14.490 --> 00:33:16.670
they're trying their best but but but we had

00:33:16.670 --> 00:33:17.990
to spend the night in Bolivia because they don't

00:33:17.990 --> 00:33:20.549
exactly have planes lined up there you know ready

00:33:20.549 --> 00:33:22.829
to take the rest of us you know it's 300 people

00:33:22.829 --> 00:33:25.109
on a flight or whatever um and then we went to

00:33:25.109 --> 00:33:29.630
Argentina and he and it was a it was a I forget

00:33:29.630 --> 00:33:32.230
the guy's name but it was a like a hair guy you

00:33:32.230 --> 00:33:37.519
know like a famous hair in Argentina, and he

00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:43.940
did this fashion show where David was helping

00:33:43.940 --> 00:33:48.519
host, and it was an outdoor fashion show for

00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:52.619
6 ,000 people. Wow. Crazy. Okay. You know, so,

00:33:52.700 --> 00:33:55.539
you know, they just paid him as a person to show

00:33:55.539 --> 00:33:57.200
up and they were showing Baywatch highlights.

00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.980
Yes. It was, you know, it was, it was some good,

00:34:00.980 --> 00:34:04.119
we had some, some, some good times. Those are,

00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:06.519
those are sort of the, the, the, I guess you

00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:08.559
can call them fun perks of the, of the job and

00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:10.949
work, you know. the entertainment industry you

00:34:10.949 --> 00:34:12.989
get out of town and get to go to some of these

00:34:12.989 --> 00:34:16.090
film festivals and trips like that you know i

00:34:16.090 --> 00:34:17.710
was gonna say you could have landed in the andes

00:34:17.710 --> 00:34:19.610
but then you had big cannibals and stuff like

00:34:19.610 --> 00:34:22.989
the soccer team back in the day yeah we could

00:34:22.989 --> 00:34:27.150
we could have remade that movie right alive yeah

00:34:27.150 --> 00:34:33.949
yeah just another version of it you know um but

00:34:33.949 --> 00:34:38.239
um but yeah yeah so Good times with David. And

00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:42.000
then I told John before you got on that you have,

00:34:42.099 --> 00:34:44.460
you know, Bo Garrett's just got a big role in

00:34:44.460 --> 00:34:46.780
The Yellowstone. Is it a sequel or a prequel

00:34:46.780 --> 00:34:48.639
or which one is it? No, it's a spinoff. They're

00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:51.659
doing a couple of spinoffs for Yellowstone. It's,

00:34:51.659 --> 00:34:54.079
you know, it's a Taylor Sheridan universe and

00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:55.579
it was, you know, it came out on Deadline about

00:34:55.579 --> 00:34:57.719
a month ago, but it's, but Michelle Pfeiffer

00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:00.280
is starring in this one and they're shooting

00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:03.420
in Montana now. It's called The Madison. And

00:35:03.420 --> 00:35:05.880
Bo, who I've been working with for years, is

00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:09.760
playing Michelle's daughter. And they just started

00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:11.840
shooting about a week ago. So that's going to

00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:14.539
come out. That'll come out on Paramount+. But

00:35:14.539 --> 00:35:17.420
it's another, you know, it's just another show

00:35:17.420 --> 00:35:20.440
in the Yellowstone universe. That show is so

00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:23.840
massive. I hope, you know, we hope this follows

00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:26.940
suit. But, you know, it's been a tough year in

00:35:26.940 --> 00:35:28.400
the entertainment industry, you know, between

00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:31.480
the strike and then the... In terms of the amount

00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:34.719
of shows and films they're making, the pond really

00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:40.300
has shrunk. So the, you know, the lack of a better

00:35:40.300 --> 00:35:44.219
term, the middle class, lower class actors get

00:35:44.219 --> 00:35:46.960
squeezed. You know, if you're Brad Pitt or Jennifer

00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:49.000
Aniston, you're not going to have any trouble

00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.440
worrying about your next job. But for a lot of

00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:54.679
writers and actors and directors, the pond has

00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:58.380
shrunk this year anyways. And so... It's been

00:35:58.380 --> 00:36:01.400
difficult for a lot of people. My point is that

00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:04.260
was a great thing that happened with Bo because

00:36:04.260 --> 00:36:08.699
she's off to work and potentially a career -changing

00:36:08.699 --> 00:36:15.219
opportunity. I was just going to say that's the

00:36:15.219 --> 00:36:17.719
nature of the business too. You can just be with

00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:20.260
actors because that's specifically who I work

00:36:20.260 --> 00:36:22.340
with. You can feel like you're down and out for

00:36:22.340 --> 00:36:24.119
a while and then one job changes everything.

00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:30.119
It's just the nature of the beast. I was going

00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:33.519
to say, part of the writer's strike was about

00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:39.019
AI, right? I heard some cursory stuff where they're

00:36:39.019 --> 00:36:42.659
talking about taking your face and then being

00:36:42.659 --> 00:36:44.960
able to put it on anybody's body and they're

00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:47.659
paying people to do that and giving them a flat

00:36:47.659 --> 00:36:50.599
amount and then they can use their image in perpetuity.

00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:52.940
I'm sure that's for probably the lower level

00:36:52.940 --> 00:36:56.860
people. Yeah. Have you run into that yet with

00:36:56.860 --> 00:37:01.340
anybody you represent? Not yet. I think I've

00:37:01.340 --> 00:37:04.280
heard of some of the contractual language, and

00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:08.340
I still don't – it's so new, and it's going to

00:37:08.340 --> 00:37:10.699
affect the business. It's going to affect everything,

00:37:10.900 --> 00:37:13.699
right? But AI is so new. I think everyone is

00:37:13.699 --> 00:37:15.480
– they're trying to protect themselves, but they

00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:17.300
don't know exactly what they're protecting themselves

00:37:17.300 --> 00:37:24.110
from. So it's going to – look, inevitably – I

00:37:24.110 --> 00:37:28.510
think it's going, you know, they're saying like,

00:37:28.570 --> 00:37:30.949
well, you know, writers and producers can, for

00:37:30.949 --> 00:37:33.309
a script purposes could use them as like assistants,

00:37:33.510 --> 00:37:35.550
right? So if you are stuck on your third act

00:37:35.550 --> 00:37:37.389
or something, you can bring, you know, but some,

00:37:37.429 --> 00:37:39.369
I'm sure there's writers out there who will like

00:37:39.369 --> 00:37:41.789
that, who will say that will never happen, you

00:37:41.789 --> 00:37:43.550
know, under my watch. But then, but if you're

00:37:43.550 --> 00:37:45.110
a producer and you're trying to make a film and

00:37:45.110 --> 00:37:47.090
you're trying to save money, I just think it's,

00:37:47.090 --> 00:37:50.780
it's, it's inevitable in terms of the. the actors

00:37:50.780 --> 00:37:52.559
and using their image i think where it gets tricky

00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:55.079
too is like after the actor you know sort of

00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:57.699
after the actor passes you know like what what

00:37:57.699 --> 00:38:00.760
happens with their image and and right um yes

00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:04.280
you know as it relates to their estate and who

00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:08.320
gets paid and so it's kind of like i don't i

00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:10.420
haven't been paying day in and day out attention

00:38:10.420 --> 00:38:13.460
to it but it's it's something that it's it's

00:38:13.460 --> 00:38:15.360
sort of getting out it's sort of getting played

00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:19.400
out in real real time but of course any artist

00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:21.219
is going to be freaked out if they can be replaced

00:38:21.219 --> 00:38:26.940
by by ai right yeah you know so it may start

00:38:26.940 --> 00:38:32.840
with action movies or you know i don't know if

00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:35.019
someone right now is ready to watch a romantic

00:38:35.019 --> 00:38:39.099
comedy with ai actors you know like right but

00:38:39.099 --> 00:38:41.480
but 20 years from now it may not matter you know

00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:44.679
Yeah, and I've heard it like in the beginning

00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:46.900
stages of this, they're going to be using it

00:38:46.900 --> 00:38:48.940
for a lot of background actors, so like people

00:38:48.940 --> 00:38:51.780
in the background. And it's also going to – I

00:38:51.780 --> 00:38:53.679
think personally it's going to affect writers

00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:55.940
a lot because once AI gets to the point where

00:38:55.940 --> 00:38:58.019
you can't tell the difference between a person

00:38:58.019 --> 00:38:59.559
writing it and AI writing it, I don't know if

00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:02.139
that will ever come, but it seems like that's

00:39:02.139 --> 00:39:05.400
where it's going, right? Yeah. So they seem to

00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:08.579
be the most endangered species in Hollywood is

00:39:08.579 --> 00:39:12.170
the writers, and that sucks. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely.

00:39:12.730 --> 00:39:18.630
And so I think technologically, is that a word?

00:39:19.710 --> 00:39:24.349
That's another level to replace actors. But I

00:39:24.349 --> 00:39:30.349
think in terms of the writing, that's, yeah,

00:39:30.429 --> 00:39:32.269
they're sort of first in the line of fire in

00:39:32.269 --> 00:39:37.440
terms of being effective. Like for AI to come

00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.820
up with like a full script, like fully concept

00:39:40.820 --> 00:39:43.000
and all that stuff and put it out, like just

00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:46.159
as good as an, as a regular writer would might

00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:48.260
be difficult at this point now, but if you're

00:39:48.260 --> 00:39:51.699
like a sitcom writer and you know, you have this

00:39:51.699 --> 00:39:55.179
script kind of fully fleshed out, but you would

00:39:55.179 --> 00:39:57.480
normally hire like two or three writers to kind

00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:00.460
of like, give me some other jokes for like this

00:40:00.460 --> 00:40:02.739
section right here. Like, it seems like AI could

00:40:02.739 --> 00:40:06.400
kind of. pump out 30 jokes real quick uh probably

00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:11.539
quickly yes probably probably quickly and so

00:40:11.539 --> 00:40:15.000
yeah that's gonna be i don't have huge opinions

00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:17.500
on this i mean other than like it's something

00:40:17.500 --> 00:40:19.820
that's going to be have to be sort of reckoned

00:40:19.820 --> 00:40:23.739
with and and i think that there could be some

00:40:23.739 --> 00:40:26.579
um situations where it's helpful to the process

00:40:26.579 --> 00:40:28.940
you know or making maybe productions more efficient

00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:33.159
And there probably will be new positions available,

00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:38.280
you know, sort of like we'll call it the middleman

00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:44.219
between the robots. But it's going to cause job

00:40:44.219 --> 00:40:46.599
loss as well. There's jobs that are going to

00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:49.679
go extinct, you know, but that's also the nature

00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.400
of the universe. I mean, there's, you know, Blockbuster

00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.420
doesn't exist anymore too, right? That's right.

00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:58.070
Go figure. And it might break into a couple different

00:40:58.070 --> 00:41:00.170
categories, too, because, like, if you're watching

00:41:00.170 --> 00:41:03.030
something that you know is completely computer

00:41:03.030 --> 00:41:06.570
-made, like, you have to disclose that. You know

00:41:06.570 --> 00:41:08.590
what I'm saying? So it could take away that human

00:41:08.590 --> 00:41:10.849
element of it. So you might have some movies

00:41:10.849 --> 00:41:13.769
that are completely AI and computer -made that

00:41:13.769 --> 00:41:16.130
people want to go see, but there might be nostalgic

00:41:16.130 --> 00:41:18.670
people who want to see something that was made

00:41:18.670 --> 00:41:22.050
just by humans with human actors and all that

00:41:22.050 --> 00:41:24.630
stuff. So it could kind of break into some...

00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:26.860
Two different categories. Initially. I think

00:41:26.860 --> 00:41:30.320
initially, yes. But if, you know, I have a nephew

00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:33.300
who's three years old and he probably won't care,

00:41:33.340 --> 00:41:35.219
but you know, but by the time you're going to

00:41:35.219 --> 00:41:38.219
grow up with it. Yeah, exactly. So, and I think

00:41:38.219 --> 00:41:40.519
people just still like, you know, ultimately

00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:41.900
they want to watch something that they like,

00:41:41.940 --> 00:41:43.900
something that is good and entertaining. And

00:41:43.900 --> 00:41:48.019
if it works, then, then it works, you know? So,

00:41:48.019 --> 00:41:51.119
but if you're a studio and you're in, and you

00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:55.550
can save. a million dollars or whatever, a big

00:41:55.550 --> 00:41:57.730
chunk of the budget, I can't imagine they're

00:41:57.730 --> 00:42:01.710
not going to take advantage of that. Right. You

00:42:01.710 --> 00:42:02.929
would think at some point there's just going

00:42:02.929 --> 00:42:05.309
to be a department with AI going, okay, write

00:42:05.309 --> 00:42:08.210
this kind of movie. Spit it out. Here you go.

00:42:08.650 --> 00:42:12.250
Yes, exactly. And there's that too. Maybe it

00:42:12.250 --> 00:42:16.670
takes it to where it's no longer in elite people's

00:42:16.670 --> 00:42:18.690
hands and people with big finance hands. Maybe

00:42:18.690 --> 00:42:21.420
it brings it down to... the everyday person who

00:42:21.420 --> 00:42:24.619
could kind of put into AI, like, here's a scene

00:42:24.619 --> 00:42:26.059
that I want and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:42:26.780 --> 00:42:29.079
Yeah. You could have someone who just graduated

00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:33.579
film school or not and create a script and some,

00:42:33.579 --> 00:42:36.539
you know, some AI actors and make a short film

00:42:36.539 --> 00:42:39.079
or make a full length feature film. Yeah, absolutely.

00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:42.239
So it's like a bunch of different ways. So it's

00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:43.980
kind of, it's cool and exciting, but yeah, they

00:42:43.980 --> 00:42:46.400
just got to get a grip on it before it gets out

00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:49.130
of control and they could just take. an angelina

00:42:49.130 --> 00:42:52.369
jolie like looking character and put her in right

00:42:52.369 --> 00:42:55.369
sounds like her like her but her name is you

00:42:55.369 --> 00:42:59.130
know whatever chalet there there will be lawyers

00:42:59.130 --> 00:43:02.210
chalet there will be lawyers oh yeah you're not

00:43:02.210 --> 00:43:03.849
going to replace the lawyers with ai i don't

00:43:03.849 --> 00:43:09.289
think well there will be lawyers yeah absolutely

00:43:09.289 --> 00:43:13.150
so yeah it's just a um i'm just trying to focus

00:43:13.150 --> 00:43:15.469
because you know because of sort of what i what

00:43:15.469 --> 00:43:18.590
i Who knows? Maybe I'll represent an AI character

00:43:18.590 --> 00:43:22.590
at some point. I don't know how that works. Well,

00:43:22.670 --> 00:43:25.889
there were artists in Japan. I think they still

00:43:25.889 --> 00:43:30.369
exist. They're complete projections. Not necessarily

00:43:30.369 --> 00:43:33.369
AI, but they were projections. Holograms. Holograms.

00:43:33.369 --> 00:43:35.769
And they would do fucking sold -out arena shows

00:43:35.769 --> 00:43:42.159
in Japan. Fucking holograms. Sure. Exactly. Exactly.

00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:44.559
So I'm just trying to focus on humans right now.

00:43:45.139 --> 00:43:49.320
I try to be peripherally aware of the AI world

00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:51.820
and how it's going to affect. But right now,

00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:55.519
my focus is my human clients and getting them

00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:58.880
jobs with scripts that have been written by humans.

00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:05.559
So that's the focus right now. But I am peripherally

00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:07.699
aware of the other stuff. Sean, I'm going to

00:44:07.699 --> 00:44:09.539
give you an inside track, dude. I don't know

00:44:09.539 --> 00:44:12.309
if you're aware, but we had... When this podcast

00:44:12.309 --> 00:44:14.170
first started or in the beginning stages of it,

00:44:14.170 --> 00:44:17.929
we had the Savo brothers on, Savo brothers, Kevin

00:44:17.929 --> 00:44:20.590
Savo and then his brothers. But they're independent

00:44:20.590 --> 00:44:25.289
filmmakers, and they do some really cool stuff,

00:44:25.389 --> 00:44:28.250
dude. I think they're in, like, final production

00:44:28.250 --> 00:44:30.969
of this rerouting, too. But you should really

00:44:30.969 --> 00:44:34.130
check them out, man. The first film that I saw

00:44:34.130 --> 00:44:37.469
of theirs rerouting, it's independently done

00:44:37.469 --> 00:44:41.760
and so well written, well acted. well shot it

00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:44.320
looks real professional i think they're on the

00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:48.139
east coast but um you know so not sorbo not sorbo

00:44:48.139 --> 00:44:52.860
but savo savo yeah a v o yeah oh s -a -v -o okay

00:44:52.860 --> 00:44:56.260
yeah their their their father uh was a is a big

00:44:56.260 --> 00:44:59.500
live fan so yeah we had him and then he had the

00:44:59.500 --> 00:45:03.400
sons on and kevin is the director and all the

00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:05.099
other brothers kind of like help out with the

00:45:05.099 --> 00:45:08.630
films and stuff kind of a family affair Do you

00:45:08.630 --> 00:45:10.070
have a link for that, John? You should send the

00:45:10.070 --> 00:45:12.329
link to Sean. I will, Sean. So after the show,

00:45:12.389 --> 00:45:13.710
I'll send it to you so you can check it out.

00:45:13.809 --> 00:45:15.690
But, I mean, just from somebody who's kind of

00:45:15.690 --> 00:45:17.909
seen, you know, independent things that are done

00:45:17.909 --> 00:45:20.849
crap and ones that are done good. Like this one,

00:45:20.889 --> 00:45:24.050
I was like, wow, this is very impressive. Okay.

00:45:24.389 --> 00:45:28.829
Yeah. So maybe a future. I'll check it out. I

00:45:28.829 --> 00:45:30.170
appreciate the tip. What do we want, 1 % of that

00:45:30.170 --> 00:45:32.250
deal? We want 1 % of that deal. The gracious

00:45:32.250 --> 00:45:35.630
podcast. Gracious to cut. Yeah, there you go.

00:45:35.650 --> 00:45:37.389
Yeah, that's right. No, I'm joking. Perfect.

00:45:37.929 --> 00:45:43.010
Perfect. That's right. There should be right

00:45:43.010 --> 00:45:47.610
up your alley. Nowadays, it seems like Hollywood

00:45:47.610 --> 00:45:50.230
has been in a rut where they're re -releasing

00:45:50.230 --> 00:45:52.329
and putting out things. It seems like a lot of

00:45:52.329 --> 00:45:55.489
cool stuff is coming from the independent features

00:45:55.489 --> 00:45:58.630
and stuff with less of a budget than sometimes

00:45:58.630 --> 00:46:01.630
Hollywood has. It's also content being put on

00:46:01.630 --> 00:46:07.800
YouTube. younger kids so to speak are are are

00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:10.360
focused on on youtube these days and you can

00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:13.420
make a film you can make a film or a skit you

00:46:13.420 --> 00:46:15.679
know just something you know i mean that's like

00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:18.139
the tiktok world too right you're making these

00:46:18.139 --> 00:46:23.019
30 second clips or or what have you but um i

00:46:23.019 --> 00:46:25.039
think that's part of the problem with like some

00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:29.300
of the like network television and and and even

00:46:29.300 --> 00:46:32.460
some of the cable stuff and and the streamer

00:46:32.460 --> 00:46:34.440
is where you know netflix isn't going anywhere

00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.119
and amazon isn't going anywhere but you have

00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:41.739
these folks who um uh these younger kids who

00:46:41.739 --> 00:46:43.719
are just you know i have i have friends who have

00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:46.199
kids and they're like they they don't watch television

00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:50.300
they they watch youtube right yeah yeah isn't

00:46:50.300 --> 00:46:52.619
that great that's all i basically watch now that

00:46:52.619 --> 00:46:55.940
netflix youtube i mean there's acts or something

00:46:55.940 --> 00:46:57.900
amazon i guess there's and i'm not and i don't

00:46:57.900 --> 00:46:59.920
watch a ton of youtube i try to keep up on the

00:46:59.920 --> 00:47:02.519
shows and film stuff there's like there's like

00:47:03.340 --> 00:47:07.199
I think a buddy of mine said he watches people

00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:11.019
playing video games. Not playing the video game,

00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:14.940
but watching someone play a video game. That's

00:47:14.940 --> 00:47:20.400
a different demographic. That's a different world.

00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:25.760
You have to pay attention to that too. My son

00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:27.400
did that for a while, but now he just plays.

00:47:27.500 --> 00:47:28.960
He used to just watch a whole bunch of them.

00:47:29.230 --> 00:47:33.449
People playing games. He probably still watches

00:47:33.449 --> 00:47:37.550
some, but he's 14 now. Sure. By the way, Sean,

00:47:37.690 --> 00:47:40.289
my mom just texted me. She said, is that Sean

00:47:40.289 --> 00:47:43.989
Faye? I said, yep. She says, hi. Tell him hi.

00:47:45.130 --> 00:47:48.590
Hello from my Milana. Hello. I haven't seen her

00:47:48.590 --> 00:47:51.349
in a long time. I hope she's doing great. She's

00:47:51.349 --> 00:47:53.789
watching. She tunes in every week to keep up.

00:47:54.389 --> 00:47:56.610
She's very loyal. Awesome. Make sure you're not

00:47:56.610 --> 00:48:00.730
cussing. Exactly. She does lifeguard us sometimes

00:48:00.730 --> 00:48:02.849
and be like, guys, you're getting a little too

00:48:02.849 --> 00:48:05.349
crazy here. So she lets us know, which is good.

00:48:05.650 --> 00:48:09.489
I like it. That's audience feedback. That's right.

00:48:09.570 --> 00:48:13.730
Exactly. Let's touch on something kind of weird

00:48:13.730 --> 00:48:15.909
and funny to me. Like I talked to a bunch of

00:48:15.909 --> 00:48:17.630
my friends, kids and nieces and nephews like

00:48:17.630 --> 00:48:21.429
that. They will a lot of times. before playing

00:48:21.429 --> 00:48:24.550
a video game they'll go on and watch people play

00:48:24.550 --> 00:48:27.409
the video game so they know how to get through

00:48:27.409 --> 00:48:29.730
levels and do all the stuff i'm like that makes

00:48:29.730 --> 00:48:32.309
sense i guess i guess but i'm like that takes

00:48:32.309 --> 00:48:34.829
away the fun of a video game like the best thing

00:48:34.829 --> 00:48:37.309
about when we got nintendo back in the day and

00:48:37.309 --> 00:48:40.090
playing super mario was like going through exploring

00:48:40.090 --> 00:48:42.590
trying to figure out what to do if you knew yeah

00:48:42.590 --> 00:48:45.260
to fucking solve it yeah Yeah. You might watch

00:48:45.260 --> 00:48:48.139
a movie then. And if you know, when you're getting

00:48:48.139 --> 00:48:51.500
to the end result, like, you know, it's, it just

00:48:51.500 --> 00:48:55.840
seems crazy to me. Well, same, but I've never

00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:58.880
been a video game person, even when I was a kid.

00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:01.739
So I'm just like the wrong, I'm the wrong person

00:49:01.739 --> 00:49:04.980
to talk to you about that. Nothing against it.

00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:06.699
Like people love their video games, but, but

00:49:06.699 --> 00:49:09.199
like, I've just, I've never, I was just never

00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:12.800
into it. Never into it. So PlayStation on the

00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:15.239
road with me. sit in my hotel room during days

00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:20.800
oh yeah downtime like that for sure for sure

00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:23.659
back in the day video games were a life suck

00:49:23.659 --> 00:49:26.219
but now it's like you could actually make a living

00:49:26.219 --> 00:49:28.639
from them and like there's a whole new world

00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:31.219
with them so it's like you know people i guess

00:49:31.219 --> 00:49:33.340
from around our generation could kind of be like

00:49:33.340 --> 00:49:35.900
take it or leave it because there was no future

00:49:35.900 --> 00:49:38.840
in it you know growing up to to do it but now

00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:41.679
there's crazy futures in it it's it's insane

00:49:42.349 --> 00:49:45.250
I have a buddy here in Orange County. I said,

00:49:45.289 --> 00:49:48.030
I have a buddy here in Orange County who runs

00:49:48.030 --> 00:49:50.389
a company that they do video game tournaments

00:49:50.389 --> 00:49:53.949
in like arenas. People get in an arena and watch

00:49:53.949 --> 00:49:57.530
people play video games. On the big screens and

00:49:57.530 --> 00:50:00.710
shit. And then every now and then you'll hear

00:50:00.710 --> 00:50:03.980
a story coming out of like, you know. like Japan

00:50:03.980 --> 00:50:06.280
or South Korea where a kid is, I think that's

00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:08.320
where I, where I saw it in there. Like a kid

00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:10.260
stayed up for four days straight playing video

00:50:10.260 --> 00:50:13.159
games and they, and they died. I'm like, what?

00:50:13.579 --> 00:50:16.099
You know, didn't eat and no sleep and whatever.

00:50:16.460 --> 00:50:18.099
And maybe there was something else going on,

00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:20.860
but it, but it's, um, I guess I think my point,

00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:23.000
there's a, there's probably an addiction element,

00:50:23.059 --> 00:50:24.500
I guess. I mean, there's addiction element, a

00:50:24.500 --> 00:50:26.940
lot of this stuff, right? So for sure. But, um,

00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:29.559
yeah. Um, and look, if people are into video

00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:31.400
games, that's, that's awesome. It's just never,

00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:34.360
never really been mine. It's football season

00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:36.539
for me right now. That's right. I'm not worried

00:50:36.539 --> 00:50:41.320
about that. I consume the NFL. It's like Thursday

00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:46.320
night, Sunday. There was a game a couple Friday

00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:48.300
nights ago. There's Monday night football. Then

00:50:48.300 --> 00:50:52.579
there's college. That's more of my addiction.

00:50:53.019 --> 00:50:57.320
Plenty to watch. Yeah, exactly. By the way, you

00:50:57.320 --> 00:50:59.960
didn't mention that you played football for UConn.

00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:05.280
Well, yeah. And I was the punter at UConn back

00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:11.400
in, back in the day. Yeah. So yeah. Helped pay

00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:13.519
for my education, kicking a football, which I'll,

00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:15.800
I'll, I'll take it. I'll take it again. You know,

00:51:15.820 --> 00:51:18.500
so. You still got that fucking leg stroke too.

00:51:20.139 --> 00:51:22.840
i'm not as flexible as i used to be i'm actually

00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:25.880
scared to like kick it go kick a ball full full

00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:28.880
full blast like for fear of like ripping a hamstring

00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:31.579
or i was gonna say rip a hammy yeah i mean it

00:51:31.579 --> 00:51:34.239
just wasn't it wouldn't be worth it you know

00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:39.219
but um but uh whatever yeah that was my uh that

00:51:39.219 --> 00:51:42.420
was my my time i loved uconn by the way lana

00:51:42.420 --> 00:51:44.619
lana's getting lana's getting feisty over here

00:51:44.619 --> 00:51:48.380
she just said what year was that Oh, that's all

00:51:48.380 --> 00:51:52.500
right. That was 89, 89 and 90. I transferred

00:51:52.500 --> 00:51:54.539
from a junior college. I went to a junior college

00:51:54.539 --> 00:51:56.219
out here in Huntington Beach from Connecticut,

00:51:56.219 --> 00:52:00.360
and then I transferred to UConn. So, yeah, long

00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:02.659
time ago. I mean, we had helmets, not leather

00:52:02.659 --> 00:52:09.559
helmets, but it definitely was a long time ago.

00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:14.360
From junior college to UConn, that's a hike.

00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:21.099
It's got to be a different world. Yeah. I was

00:52:21.099 --> 00:52:25.380
a terrible high school student. The junior college

00:52:25.380 --> 00:52:30.400
is out here. You just apply and you get in. There's

00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.280
no admissions. At least there wasn't back then.

00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:36.000
They have really good football programs out here.

00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:39.059
A lot of guys end up going to... getting scholarships.

00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:42.960
My aunt and uncle live in Huntington Beach. They

00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:47.579
invited me to stay with them, go to school, get

00:52:47.579 --> 00:52:50.679
my grades up. I played two years at Golden West

00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:55.139
Junior College in Huntington Beach. The wrestlers.

00:52:55.380 --> 00:52:59.300
Then I transferred to UConn because my grades

00:52:59.300 --> 00:53:04.579
were good enough to get in. I got a walk -on

00:53:04.579 --> 00:53:10.679
scholarship there. It worked out. In retrospect,

00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:13.920
I should have studied harder in high school,

00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:18.119
but whatever. It got figured out. Would you have

00:53:18.119 --> 00:53:19.960
had as much fun, though? You got to take the

00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:23.579
good with the bad, dude. Yeah. I appreciated

00:53:23.579 --> 00:53:26.599
UConn a lot more because in junior college, there

00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:29.179
was a campus, but it wasn't like the college

00:53:29.179 --> 00:53:31.219
life. I was living with my aunt and uncle, getting

00:53:31.219 --> 00:53:34.139
my grades together. I mean, still enjoying the

00:53:34.139 --> 00:53:39.239
city and had good friends and stuff. when I got

00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:42.260
to a campus, that's what I just, you know, I

00:53:42.260 --> 00:53:44.420
appreciate it so much more just, you know, living

00:53:44.420 --> 00:53:46.500
on a campus and living a little bit more independently,

00:53:46.699 --> 00:53:48.679
you know, and, and, and being on the team too.

00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:50.920
It was, it was, that was a, there was a culture

00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:53.099
there too. That's like, those are your, you know,

00:53:53.099 --> 00:53:54.860
those are your friends for life. It's like a,

00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:58.039
it's like a military culture in a way, right?

00:53:58.079 --> 00:54:00.860
Where you're like, you know, I had to run and

00:54:00.860 --> 00:54:02.900
lift and do all the stuff like everybody else.

00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:05.800
I just didn't have to tackle anybody, you know?

00:54:07.420 --> 00:54:10.519
And got crushed all the time. Because back then,

00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:13.800
you didn't know all the CTE problems that they're

00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:15.579
coming out with now. Like, you don't realize,

00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:18.400
like, what a sport that is. Like, if you're playing

00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:21.380
football from, let's just say, 10 years old.

00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:24.619
Yeah. College, man. You've taken a lot of hits,

00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:29.480
probably. Yeah. Very ones. And, you know. Yeah.

00:54:29.579 --> 00:54:31.599
And it's weird how it affects some people, some

00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:34.699
dudes and others. It doesn't, you know, where

00:54:34.699 --> 00:54:37.420
it's like they're. they're fine. And, and, and

00:54:37.420 --> 00:54:42.579
what have you, it's just, I don't know. I think

00:54:42.579 --> 00:54:43.820
they're really trying, you know, they're trying

00:54:43.820 --> 00:54:46.340
to, I mean, football is in the U S anyways is

00:54:46.340 --> 00:54:50.099
King, right? So, so what they don't want are,

00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:52.940
you know, it starts at the youth level really.

00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:55.239
And so they, you know, they want, so I think

00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:57.260
they've been trying to make, take measures to,

00:54:57.340 --> 00:55:01.000
to, to, to help protect players better, you know?

00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:04.980
yeah but it's still it's still a violent sport

00:55:04.980 --> 00:55:09.079
but um but they're you know some of the some

00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:12.079
of the hits are now illegal and you know like

00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:14.360
trying to tackle the guy head first and that

00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:16.000
type of thing i think it's smart they're trying

00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:18.079
to protect they're trying to protect the game

00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:21.440
you know it's like um i mean you're you're gonna

00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:23.300
have parents and you know i know plenty of parents

00:55:23.300 --> 00:55:25.139
are like my kids playing lacrosse you know they're

00:55:25.139 --> 00:55:28.920
not gonna play football and so right um but um

00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:32.360
But, yeah, the CTE thing is kind of crazy. But

00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:36.500
luckily for me, kicking a football, I don't have

00:55:36.500 --> 00:55:38.400
to deal with any of that stuff. I have my own

00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:40.679
brain issues, but it has nothing to do with –

00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:43.760
Don't we all. Nothing to do with CTE. Yeah, don't

00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.760
we all. Well, lucky you had that a good position.

00:55:46.900 --> 00:55:49.659
Sorry, Chad. I was going to say, so we met back

00:55:49.659 --> 00:55:53.400
in what, like 94, 95 in L .A.? I think it was

00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:58.610
closer to like – I want to say like 97, but you

00:55:58.610 --> 00:56:02.349
could be right. It was after Throwing Copper.

00:56:02.610 --> 00:56:05.909
Yeah. And it was, I think before Secret Samadhi,

00:56:05.929 --> 00:56:10.050
but we had, but you and Michelle, your wife at

00:56:10.050 --> 00:56:11.690
the time used to come to LA, right? And you had

00:56:11.690 --> 00:56:14.369
this girl that I was dating was friends with

00:56:14.369 --> 00:56:18.110
Michelle and her friend, Samantha. And so, so

00:56:18.110 --> 00:56:20.449
Chad and I would just, you know, would just hang

00:56:20.449 --> 00:56:24.960
in LA, right? And then, and then I got, I mean,

00:56:24.980 --> 00:56:26.619
I knew your music peripherally, but then I really

00:56:26.619 --> 00:56:28.679
got introduced to it. And then I started like

00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:32.079
hanging out with these guys and going to shows

00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:35.019
and festivals and man, I really got spoiled in

00:56:35.019 --> 00:56:37.199
that world, dude. I still, it's still like when

00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:40.039
I go to a concert, I'm like, Oh man, where's

00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:45.179
the parking? I got to park. I used to jump on

00:56:45.179 --> 00:56:49.039
their bus and you know, In L .A., they were staying

00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:50.820
at the Sunset Marquee. I'd go meet them at the

00:56:50.820 --> 00:56:53.119
hotel and just take the bus to the venue. And,

00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:56.079
you know, that's the spoiled rock and roll life,

00:56:56.179 --> 00:56:59.500
you know. And then going to a show as a civilian

00:56:59.500 --> 00:57:03.619
sometimes, it's like, wait, really? Oh, man,

00:57:03.659 --> 00:57:04.340
I've got to wait in line for this. I don't like

00:57:04.340 --> 00:57:07.639
doing it. I've got to really love the band to

00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:10.280
go to the show as a civilian. Yeah, exactly.

00:57:10.699 --> 00:57:12.699
Hence, I don't go to many. But, yeah, you went

00:57:12.699 --> 00:57:14.920
to Woodstock with us, 99, and then you, what,

00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:17.300
you did the Benton Freedom concert with us. I

00:57:17.300 --> 00:57:18.920
just started going on tour with these guys. I

00:57:18.920 --> 00:57:20.539
was like a groupie. I just wasn't sleeping with

00:57:20.539 --> 00:57:25.159
these guys, you know? I was just sort of a tag

00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:27.579
-along, but saw some great... Yeah, Woodstock

00:57:27.579 --> 00:57:31.239
99, we drove in the bus from New York City to

00:57:31.239 --> 00:57:33.960
the show. And then, of course, I'm not standing

00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:37.360
out in that crowd, right? Everyone's sunburned

00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:40.159
and drunk and crazy. And so I stood on stage

00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:43.619
and watched these guys crush it. As far as you

00:57:43.619 --> 00:57:45.929
could see, there was... I mean, there was probably

00:57:45.929 --> 00:57:49.389
three, four hundred thousand people at this thing.

00:57:49.489 --> 00:57:52.630
I think that was what the attendance was, whatever.

00:57:52.789 --> 00:57:54.929
But as far as you could see, there was people.

00:57:55.650 --> 00:58:01.429
And so these guys, I think Korn was one of the

00:58:01.429 --> 00:58:02.949
headliners. And Rage Against the Machine played

00:58:02.949 --> 00:58:06.550
that night as well. Yeah, Bush went on last that

00:58:06.550 --> 00:58:09.769
night. They did? Yeah, and I only know that because

00:58:09.769 --> 00:58:12.110
I watched the documentary about how fucking crazy

00:58:12.110 --> 00:58:14.599
it was. everything that went down after we left

00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:17.199
you know that was on the friday we played yeah

00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:19.639
yeah i didn't i didn't even realize about bush

00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:22.000
yeah bush went on last that night oh i didn't

00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:25.500
know that but they i saw dmx went on after you

00:58:25.500 --> 00:58:28.840
guys and he was incredible you know i think he

00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:31.079
was the only rapper at this rock and roll uh

00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:34.619
festival you know and he just um he just crushed

00:58:34.619 --> 00:58:37.719
it but i just got to watch these shows from um

00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:43.400
from side stage too you know and um uh what was

00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:47.780
it the tibetan freedom concert yeah dc yeah i

00:58:47.780 --> 00:58:49.739
can't remember what year that was but that was

00:58:49.739 --> 00:58:53.119
um i think that was 99 or 2000 somewhere in there

00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:57.219
maybe no it could have been 98 because i'm still

00:58:57.219 --> 00:58:59.860
with michelle then so it was i think it was 98

00:58:59.860 --> 00:59:04.760
yeah 98 and um you guys played on that i think

00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:08.239
it was saturday and again went you know went

00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:10.559
with joe i think i was with you guys in new york

00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:13.340
and then drove down you know to the show and

00:59:13.340 --> 00:59:15.639
that was another like radio had played and you

00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:17.099
know there's some amazing i think when you guys

00:59:17.099 --> 00:59:19.260
are playing and i i don't know if i had this

00:59:19.260 --> 00:59:22.840
right but there was a i think you guys had played

00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:25.679
a song lightning crashes and some girl in the

00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:28.619
in the stands got struck by lightning oh yeah

00:59:28.619 --> 00:59:31.980
yeah she was on the on her phone or something

00:59:31.980 --> 00:59:34.860
and the and it like yeah she was touching a railing

00:59:34.860 --> 00:59:39.679
and yeah got electrified She was okay, I guess,

00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:41.059
you know, had to go to the hospital, but I guess

00:59:41.059 --> 00:59:43.760
she was okay. But that was like sort of an odd,

00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:49.960
you know, an odd story that happened. The time

00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:52.860
that she got struck by lightning. Like, did you

00:59:52.860 --> 00:59:54.119
know that while you guys were on stage or you

00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:55.920
found this out after the fact? I think it was

00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:58.340
after, right? We found out after, and I think

00:59:58.340 --> 01:00:01.059
she was from Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Wow. Odd

01:00:01.059 --> 01:00:05.349
as well. Oh, wow. And I think, I believe. If

01:00:05.349 --> 01:00:06.989
I remember correctly, I think we sent her something

01:00:06.989 --> 01:00:10.550
in her hotel room or in her hospital room and

01:00:10.550 --> 01:00:14.030
made sure she was okay. Maybe she faked it. Yeah.

01:00:14.750 --> 01:00:16.829
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just

01:00:16.829 --> 01:00:19.010
kidding. If she's listening, I'm just kidding.

01:00:20.030 --> 01:00:24.269
Young lady. Sorry. You should have sent her a

01:00:24.269 --> 01:00:25.929
pair of your underwear. She would have loved

01:00:25.929 --> 01:00:28.329
it. So one of the big perks of knowing Sean was

01:00:28.329 --> 01:00:30.730
when we went to Hartford, his mom would bring

01:00:30.730 --> 01:00:37.000
us brownies homemade. to the show now well my

01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:39.760
mom my mom she doesn't make them as much anymore

01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:42.539
you know because she's you know she lives solo

01:00:42.539 --> 01:00:46.400
but um but she but she did make these brownies

01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:50.800
that were like incredible and um and uh we talked

01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:53.539
about my brother shannon we could talk about

01:00:53.539 --> 01:00:56.000
shannon yeah let's go do you remember when he

01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:58.780
tried to bring him in oh yes that's right yeah

01:00:58.780 --> 01:01:00.880
you gotta you gotta take it right and throw it

01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:05.559
away My brother Shannon, God bless him, he went

01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:07.460
to go see these guys. I wasn't with him, but

01:01:07.460 --> 01:01:09.659
he went to go see these guys in Boston, and Chad

01:01:09.659 --> 01:01:12.980
got him tickets, and he brought the brownies

01:01:12.980 --> 01:01:16.840
to the stadium. I think it was Foxborough. And,

01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:19.539
you know, just walking in with brownies, and

01:01:19.539 --> 01:01:22.219
the security guard's like, what is that? He's

01:01:22.219 --> 01:01:25.139
like, these are brownies. And he's like, you

01:01:25.139 --> 01:01:27.059
can't bring them in. He's like, but they're brownies

01:01:27.059 --> 01:01:29.119
for the drummer, Chad. And the guy goes, I don't

01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:35.920
give a shit. Get rid of them. So I think he had

01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:38.599
to bring them back to the car. Poor guy. He was

01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:40.519
like so excited because I mean, these, by the

01:01:40.519 --> 01:01:42.579
way, these, it sounds silly, but these were world

01:01:42.579 --> 01:01:46.780
-class brownies. So it was, yeah. Yeah. But my

01:01:46.780 --> 01:01:49.260
family got involved too. My, my, my, my parents

01:01:49.260 --> 01:01:50.880
would come to the shows when they, when these

01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:52.960
guys played in Hartford, it was a big, you know,

01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:55.860
they watched the Woodstock 99 and on television,

01:01:55.900 --> 01:01:58.130
it was like a. it was almost like a team, you

01:01:58.130 --> 01:01:59.710
know, that they're rooting for, except it was

01:01:59.710 --> 01:02:03.610
a band live, you know? So, um, it was, uh, it

01:02:03.610 --> 01:02:06.190
was the, I had some great, great times. I'm just

01:02:06.190 --> 01:02:08.150
trying to remember some of the, some of the other,

01:02:08.269 --> 01:02:11.530
uh, like the weenie roast down in orange County.

01:02:11.969 --> 01:02:15.690
Yeah. That was another fun, really fun. Metallica

01:02:15.690 --> 01:02:19.449
and chili peppers. Oh yeah. Yeah. That was cool.

01:02:19.550 --> 01:02:22.889
It was, it was K rock weenie roast and they didn't,

01:02:22.909 --> 01:02:25.130
they didn't even play Metallica on K rock at

01:02:25.130 --> 01:02:28.139
the time. And in the, in the, the festival my

01:02:28.139 --> 01:02:30.099
understanding was that the the bands that played

01:02:30.099 --> 01:02:32.519
there were the ones that got the most votes um

01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:35.059
you know as favorite bands or whatever so that

01:02:35.059 --> 01:02:37.340
was sort of the order of it but then metallica

01:02:37.340 --> 01:02:41.780
was the uh was like the overall winner of the

01:02:41.780 --> 01:02:44.940
voting, but they didn't even play Metallica on

01:02:44.940 --> 01:02:47.440
K -Rock. But they were like, all right, we better

01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:50.579
have them headlined. So they ended up headlining

01:02:50.579 --> 01:02:52.639
the K -Rock Winnie Rhodes. I think I have this

01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:55.000
story, right? But they ended up headlining it,

01:02:55.059 --> 01:02:59.119
and I think they probably play Metallica on K

01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:00.780
-Rock now, maybe. I don't know. I was going to

01:03:00.780 --> 01:03:03.159
say, why the fuck wouldn't they be playing Metallica

01:03:03.159 --> 01:03:07.980
on K -Rock? I know. Back in the 90s, K -Rock

01:03:07.980 --> 01:03:10.619
and even 2000s. K -Rock was just all alternative

01:03:10.619 --> 01:03:14.119
rock. It wasn't heavy metal. It was very segmented.

01:03:14.579 --> 01:03:18.519
Yeah. What was that band? Limp Bizkit. They played

01:03:18.519 --> 01:03:22.320
at that show. Remember Limp Bizkit? Yeah. Yeah,

01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:24.539
they were on tour. Loserville, I think they did.

01:03:24.679 --> 01:03:27.699
With Corey Feldman was on the bill. Limp Bizkit.

01:03:27.820 --> 01:03:29.400
Are they still doing that? Because I keep seeing

01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:32.019
footage of Corey Feldman on that stage playing

01:03:32.019 --> 01:03:37.269
stuff. Yes. Yeah, so Chad, so the gentleman who

01:03:37.269 --> 01:03:39.730
got us Pippi Longstocking on here, he is also

01:03:39.730 --> 01:03:43.190
Corey Feldman's agent or manager. I'm not sure

01:03:43.190 --> 01:03:46.469
which one. Really? Yeah. That's cool. He was

01:03:46.469 --> 01:03:49.570
on that tour with them, so he's got some crazy

01:03:49.570 --> 01:03:53.730
stories about it. Did he get Corey on here? I'm

01:03:53.730 --> 01:03:58.750
working on that. Me too. I don't want to say

01:03:58.750 --> 01:04:00.110
my feelings about Corey Feldman because we're

01:04:00.110 --> 01:04:02.989
trying to get him as a guest, but he's a... Cool,

01:04:02.989 --> 01:04:05.329
wacky individual, man. That guy's seen it all,

01:04:05.369 --> 01:04:08.630
been through it all. I think he's been through

01:04:08.630 --> 01:04:14.690
the ringer as far as being a child actor. Yeah,

01:04:14.690 --> 01:04:19.869
sure. It can be a dangerous world out there for

01:04:19.869 --> 01:04:25.130
kids. Yes. Crazy accusations against Charlie

01:04:25.130 --> 01:04:27.210
Sheen saying, I don't know if you guys heard

01:04:27.210 --> 01:04:31.010
this, he said that Charlie Sheen raped Corey

01:04:31.010 --> 01:04:34.170
Haim you guys remember Corey Haim the other Corey

01:04:34.170 --> 01:04:37.070
he was like the other Corey yeah and this was

01:04:37.070 --> 01:04:39.690
like a bombshell thing that Feldman put out a

01:04:39.690 --> 01:04:41.949
couple years ago but it's gone silent since but

01:04:41.949 --> 01:04:43.929
I remember that coming out I'm like I've never

01:04:43.929 --> 01:04:47.550
heard of Charlie Sheen being gay for one but

01:04:47.550 --> 01:04:52.230
then you know molesting yeah crazy I hadn't heard

01:04:52.230 --> 01:04:55.750
that but there is a you know there is an underbelly

01:04:55.750 --> 01:05:00.400
to the industry yes there is yeah We'll see what

01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:02.460
happens with Diddy here. He's starting to pull

01:05:02.460 --> 01:05:05.320
in a lot of big names are getting pulled into

01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:07.360
this thing. A lot of big names getting pulled

01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:12.679
in. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I'm no

01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:17.679
law expert, but I read most of the 14 -page grand

01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:21.539
jury, and I don't think he's getting out of jail

01:05:21.539 --> 01:05:25.070
anytime soon. No, it's not good. It's not good.

01:05:25.289 --> 01:05:27.730
It also seems that Oprah hangs out with a lot

01:05:27.730 --> 01:05:29.429
of seedy people. It seems like everybody who

01:05:29.429 --> 01:05:33.090
has a scandal, Oprah is buddy -buddy with. It's

01:05:33.090 --> 01:05:35.110
pretty fucking wild. She has a picture with everybody.

01:05:35.530 --> 01:05:38.710
She has a picture with everybody. Yeah, it's

01:05:38.710 --> 01:05:41.610
going to be interesting to see who, you know,

01:05:41.690 --> 01:05:44.809
like Chad just said, who gets pulled out of this

01:05:44.809 --> 01:05:47.210
thing, too. And there's got to be, I'm sure there's

01:05:47.210 --> 01:05:52.610
video evidence as well, right, from some of these

01:05:52.610 --> 01:05:58.070
parties. yeah yeah crazy i was you know i never

01:05:58.070 --> 01:05:59.809
went to any of these i mean i went to some fun

01:05:59.809 --> 01:06:02.070
parties but like i was never an app i never got

01:06:02.070 --> 01:06:04.750
if there was after hours at these places uh where

01:06:04.750 --> 01:06:09.650
crazy stuff happened i was not invited so i don't

01:06:09.650 --> 01:06:12.789
know i was i was the first one there and i stayed

01:06:12.789 --> 01:06:14.489
to a reasonable time and then i would leave but

01:06:14.489 --> 01:06:18.269
there's you know but there's uh yeah yeah That

01:06:18.269 --> 01:06:20.409
sounds like the age -old story that I hear from

01:06:20.409 --> 01:06:22.929
everybody who works at a strip club but doesn't

01:06:22.929 --> 01:06:25.449
actually strip at the strip club. Everybody's

01:06:25.449 --> 01:06:27.690
like, oh, I work at a – but I don't strip there.

01:06:27.710 --> 01:06:29.429
I'm the bartender. I'm like, no. The bartender.

01:06:29.530 --> 01:06:33.429
Yeah. I'm the manager. Yeah. I'm the hostess.

01:06:33.769 --> 01:06:36.610
Yeah. So, Sean, we talked yesterday, a little

01:06:36.610 --> 01:06:39.090
pre -call, and you started telling a story about

01:06:39.090 --> 01:06:41.510
– was it after the Betting Freedom concert where

01:06:41.510 --> 01:06:44.150
you went – where you hung out with Egg and went

01:06:44.150 --> 01:06:47.239
to Michael Stipe? michael stipe had a party because

01:06:47.239 --> 01:06:49.320
you guys i didn't know this story go ahead tell

01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:51.719
it please well well from what i remember too

01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:53.719
michael's like a huge live fan right yeah he

01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:57.980
was yeah yeah and and um and so a lot of the

01:06:57.980 --> 01:07:01.500
guys after you guys played on that saturday in

01:07:01.500 --> 01:07:05.480
dc um i mean you're pretty close to york right

01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:08.079
or ish so so anyways you guys have gone but i

01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:12.880
went with ed and aaron to um to michael stipe's

01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:17.809
party and it was that Saturday night. And then

01:07:17.809 --> 01:07:21.590
Michael said, came over and told us that we're

01:07:21.590 --> 01:07:23.909
all going to Radiohead was playing like a, like

01:07:23.909 --> 01:07:26.369
a surprise show at this. What's the club in DC

01:07:26.369 --> 01:07:29.690
that said 930, the 930, I was getting the numbers

01:07:29.690 --> 01:07:31.710
wrong, but the 930 club and they played this

01:07:31.710 --> 01:07:36.630
incredible, incredible show there. And you know,

01:07:36.630 --> 01:07:39.510
that was the peak of Radiohead. I mean, I love

01:07:39.510 --> 01:07:42.269
that band anyways. And then we ran into Brad

01:07:42.269 --> 01:07:45.489
Pitt. I guess Ed knew a little bit and started

01:07:45.489 --> 01:07:51.030
talking about Fight Club, which Ed eventually

01:07:51.030 --> 01:07:55.630
booked a role in Fight Club. And Brad, not at

01:07:55.630 --> 01:07:59.809
that point, but Brad had already, he was already,

01:07:59.829 --> 01:08:03.130
you know, attached to the film. So Ed had gone

01:08:03.130 --> 01:08:06.730
in for, you know, to read a couple of times for

01:08:06.730 --> 01:08:11.420
Fincher. And so the three of us were... you know,

01:08:11.420 --> 01:08:12.960
before Radiohead went on, we were talking about

01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:15.400
Fight Club and the book and the script, and it

01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:17.199
was a really cool conversation. That's cool.

01:08:17.699 --> 01:08:19.659
And then, I don't know when it was, a couple

01:08:19.659 --> 01:08:22.739
weeks later, I got the offer to play. It was

01:08:22.739 --> 01:08:24.859
a small role, but it was, you know, a really

01:08:24.859 --> 01:08:29.100
cool thing. So, yeah, it just, you know, it went

01:08:29.100 --> 01:08:32.380
from Tibetan Freedom Concert to a Michael Stipe

01:08:32.380 --> 01:08:36.680
party to a secret Radiohead show, a surprise

01:08:36.680 --> 01:08:41.319
show, and, you know. Talking to Mr. Pitt. So

01:08:41.319 --> 01:08:45.680
some good times with these guys, for sure. That's

01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:48.180
a good day and night. Yeah, it's a good day and

01:08:48.180 --> 01:08:50.800
night. Like I said, I was definitely spoiled

01:08:50.800 --> 01:08:53.899
over the years and met some other, like I met

01:08:53.899 --> 01:08:56.119
Chris Daughtry through you guys. I don't know

01:08:56.119 --> 01:08:58.300
if you still talk to him, but he was always like

01:08:58.300 --> 01:09:04.479
a super nice guy. Met Tom Morello through you

01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:10.649
guys. ended up going to a few Raging Against

01:09:10.649 --> 01:09:14.770
the Machine shows from that introduction. Michelle

01:09:14.770 --> 01:09:17.010
and I went to his house a couple of times. What

01:09:17.010 --> 01:09:20.430
was his wife's name? Dee. We hung out at his

01:09:20.430 --> 01:09:24.229
house a couple of times. Super nice guy. Nice

01:09:24.229 --> 01:09:26.770
guy. Her name is Dee, is that what you said?

01:09:26.850 --> 01:09:28.569
Dee, yeah. Oh, that's right, Dee. Okay, yes.

01:09:29.630 --> 01:09:32.069
Chad, it's hysterical that all your buddies and

01:09:32.069 --> 01:09:34.689
friends that you were from back in the day have...

01:09:34.989 --> 01:09:37.930
these stories and like you weren't even a part

01:09:37.930 --> 01:09:40.430
of them like you got them in and uh you know

01:09:40.430 --> 01:09:44.149
part of this chad went fishing he's like i'm

01:09:44.149 --> 01:09:46.789
going fishing man i'm like really but i'm going

01:09:46.789 --> 01:09:50.449
fishing or like a slice party fucking tired like

01:09:50.449 --> 01:09:52.590
i don't care yeah i love it man he don't give

01:09:52.590 --> 01:09:56.770
a shit yeah exactly michael slept who man i got

01:09:56.770 --> 01:10:01.449
shit to do man i got uh mrs faye's brownies to

01:10:01.449 --> 01:10:03.649
eat I was hanging out with Stipe one time, and

01:10:03.649 --> 01:10:06.050
Ed and I went to this restaurant, and Michael

01:10:06.050 --> 01:10:08.590
was there. And I don't know if we went there

01:10:08.590 --> 01:10:10.789
specifically to see him, but it was Ed and I

01:10:10.789 --> 01:10:13.470
and my ex, Michelle, and we went to see Michael.

01:10:13.909 --> 01:10:16.630
And we're hanging out at a bar, just talking

01:10:16.630 --> 01:10:19.510
to him. And I took this rose. There's a long

01:10:19.510 --> 01:10:21.409
stem rose in a vase, and I put it between my...

01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:25.460
between my ex -wife's boobies. And Michael's

01:10:25.460 --> 01:10:30.439
like, nice. Did he put it between yours, Chuck?

01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:35.420
It's like I'm 26, whatever. I got my hot wife

01:10:35.420 --> 01:10:39.000
here, whatever. That's right. That's right. No,

01:10:39.140 --> 01:10:41.119
it was definitely some good times. I also have

01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:43.399
great memories of, you guys would usually, when

01:10:43.399 --> 01:10:44.899
you came into town, you'd usually stay at the

01:10:44.899 --> 01:10:48.380
Sunset Marquis. And there was a bar there. It

01:10:48.380 --> 01:10:51.020
was called the Whiskey Bar. And it was a tiny,

01:10:51.560 --> 01:10:55.420
dark bar that you know was hard to get into because

01:10:55.420 --> 01:10:57.479
because it was so small and it was sort of a

01:10:57.479 --> 01:10:59.479
it was actually a really popular place but a

01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:03.260
lot of musicians would would um would uh stay

01:11:03.260 --> 01:11:05.479
there and we'd go there and hang there like a

01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:09.420
lot of a lot of fun nights there um i met um

01:11:09.420 --> 01:11:12.399
the dude from zz top i mean it's not like oh

01:11:12.399 --> 01:11:14.300
yeah you know whatever but like billy gibbons

01:11:14.300 --> 01:11:16.000
was already always there he was always fucking

01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:20.020
always there um jimmy page I met Quickly one

01:11:20.020 --> 01:11:25.520
night. He's always there. I met Adam. You guys

01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:27.039
toured with Counting Crows, but that's where

01:11:27.039 --> 01:11:30.359
I met Ed one night. We met Adam Durant. It was

01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:37.439
always just a fun music hang. Billy Bob Thornton,

01:11:37.439 --> 01:11:39.619
that was his... Oh, Billy Bob was there, yeah.

01:11:39.819 --> 01:11:44.640
That was his hotel also that he would stay at.

01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:48.039
That was one of my favorite all -time... bars

01:11:48.039 --> 01:11:50.180
in in los angeles it's not i mean it's just a

01:11:50.180 --> 01:11:52.060
regular bar now you know they still have some

01:11:52.060 --> 01:11:55.439
rock and roll uh photos up and some you know

01:11:55.439 --> 01:11:58.640
whatever but it was um it's not like it was yeah

01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:01.659
it's not like it was it was some uh some fun

01:12:01.659 --> 01:12:04.039
times for sure the good thing is that wendell

01:12:04.039 --> 01:12:06.300
the doorman was was from philly and he was a

01:12:06.300 --> 01:12:09.239
big live fan so yeah that's right he's passed

01:12:09.239 --> 01:12:12.619
away but uh he was fucking awesome yeah he was

01:12:12.619 --> 01:12:16.659
a great dude huh i said rest in peace wendell

01:12:17.210 --> 01:12:19.229
Rest in peace, Wendell. Yeah, he was a good dude.

01:12:19.470 --> 01:12:23.729
You know this, John. The Gracious Few song, Crying

01:12:23.729 --> 01:12:27.770
Time, is about Wendell. Yes, yes. The working

01:12:27.770 --> 01:12:30.270
title was Wendell's Song for a while. Yeah, man.

01:12:31.090 --> 01:12:33.770
I found that out on the show. Then Bill gave

01:12:33.770 --> 01:12:37.590
us a video where it had all Wendell still shots.

01:12:37.850 --> 01:12:40.449
Oh, yeah. Bill helped make that. Bill made that

01:12:40.449 --> 01:12:42.909
video. Yeah, which was cool. Yeah, very cool.

01:12:43.390 --> 01:12:46.520
Memoriam piece. Sean, this sounds like the time

01:12:46.520 --> 01:12:50.779
it was Billy Bob was wearing a vial of Angelina

01:12:50.779 --> 01:12:54.100
Jolie's blood around his neck. Could have been.

01:12:54.939 --> 01:12:57.380
I think it was after that, but I didn't see any

01:12:57.380 --> 01:13:02.060
vial. I just remember he was a cool dude. Yeah,

01:13:02.100 --> 01:13:05.420
super nice. I was there with a friend. I don't

01:13:05.420 --> 01:13:07.880
even remember who the friend was, but it was

01:13:07.880 --> 01:13:09.640
kind of empty at that point, and he came over,

01:13:09.739 --> 01:13:12.060
and he knew all the waitresses there, and he

01:13:12.060 --> 01:13:14.560
was like, And so he brought our drinks over,

01:13:14.659 --> 01:13:17.260
like playing waiter for a couple minutes and

01:13:17.260 --> 01:13:19.340
brought our drinks over and we chatted. And we

01:13:19.340 --> 01:13:23.760
talked about Sling Blade, which is, if you haven't

01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:25.699
seen that film, that's the film that launched

01:13:25.699 --> 01:13:30.399
him. Yeah. With Dwight Yoakam. The film's incredible.

01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:34.119
If you haven't seen Sling Blade, run, don't walk.

01:13:34.300 --> 01:13:36.640
It's a great, great film. It's been a while.

01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:38.569
I'll need to rewatch it. Were you there when

01:13:38.569 --> 01:13:41.949
Vince Vaughn and Sean Williams, our bass tech,

01:13:42.010 --> 01:13:47.810
got into it? No. No. That's fucking great. But

01:13:47.810 --> 01:13:50.729
you remember, Vince Vaughn would come in, and

01:13:50.729 --> 01:13:53.069
he was like, any character in all of his movies,

01:13:53.210 --> 01:13:56.109
he'd be like, okay, now Fox of Foxes. He'd just

01:13:56.109 --> 01:13:58.029
have these little sayings. He'd just say all

01:13:58.029 --> 01:13:59.569
night, and you're like, what the fuck is this

01:13:59.569 --> 01:14:03.710
guy doing? I knew him back in the day, too. Some

01:14:03.710 --> 01:14:06.729
of these folks, you know them, and then they...

01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:09.899
they move or you know he's he's a big star now

01:14:09.899 --> 01:14:12.460
but he was always he was always a nice fun dude

01:14:12.460 --> 01:14:15.979
yeah exactly he's a character dude yeah that's

01:14:15.979 --> 01:14:17.960
why it was funny that him and sean got into it

01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:21.439
did i ever tell you that story no i don't think

01:14:21.439 --> 01:14:24.340
so yeah so sean williams blonde hair kid he kind

01:14:24.340 --> 01:14:27.079
of looked like brad pitt from like uh the the

01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:30.340
river movie run through it yeah yeah and uh he

01:14:30.340 --> 01:14:32.500
was he was our base tech forever and so he would

01:14:32.500 --> 01:14:35.029
kind of and this is around the time when Patrick

01:14:35.029 --> 01:14:36.670
was drinking a lot, too, so he would be kind

01:14:36.670 --> 01:14:39.630
of Patrick's keeper, if you will, or just help

01:14:39.630 --> 01:14:43.689
him. But there was a point where we're all in

01:14:43.689 --> 01:14:47.029
the whiskey bar, and I look up at the bar, and

01:14:47.029 --> 01:14:50.390
I see Vince Vaughn's 6 '5", and Sean's like 6

01:14:50.390 --> 01:14:53.710
'2", 6 '3", maybe. So, you know, Vince Vaughn's

01:14:53.710 --> 01:14:56.229
taller than him, but they're talking to each

01:14:56.229 --> 01:14:57.390
other. You can tell they're talking to each other.

01:14:58.050 --> 01:15:00.729
And so I'm like... what the fuck is this conversation

01:15:00.729 --> 01:15:03.750
about? Oh, so I kind of got closer. And, uh,

01:15:03.770 --> 01:15:06.050
so I was listening. So Vince Vaughn is like just

01:15:06.050 --> 01:15:08.789
going on about something and, and he, but he's

01:15:08.789 --> 01:15:11.029
drunk and you can see like the spittle flying

01:15:11.029 --> 01:15:13.710
out of his mouth. Yeah. And, and Sean's like

01:15:13.710 --> 01:15:15.369
close to him and it like hits him in the face.

01:15:15.409 --> 01:15:18.010
And he's like, Hey man, yo, yo, just chill out

01:15:18.010 --> 01:15:19.770
with the spit, man. He was like, Oh, I'm sorry,

01:15:19.850 --> 01:15:22.130
dude. I'm sorry. And so he starts talking again.

01:15:22.489 --> 01:15:25.430
And Sean's like, Hey, seriously, man, stop with

01:15:25.430 --> 01:15:28.060
the spitting. He's like, Oh man, I'm sorry. And

01:15:28.060 --> 01:15:30.300
they start talking again. And the third time,

01:15:30.319 --> 01:15:32.720
Sean's like, hey, motherfucker, I'm telling you.

01:15:32.779 --> 01:15:35.859
Oh, shit. Stop with the spitting. And Vince looks

01:15:35.859 --> 01:15:37.659
at him. He's like, well, what are you going to

01:15:37.659 --> 01:15:39.939
do about it? And Sean just gets right in his

01:15:39.939 --> 01:15:43.560
face. He's like, I will fuck you up. Oh, shit.

01:15:43.779 --> 01:15:49.279
Wow. Wow. And Vince is like, and Vince is 6 '5".

01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:52.220
He's pretty intimidating as far as his height.

01:15:52.420 --> 01:15:56.260
Yeah. He's a big fucking loud guy. And so I don't

01:15:56.260 --> 01:15:58.300
think anybody ever really challenges him. So

01:15:58.300 --> 01:16:01.140
he's like step back and he's like, looked, looked

01:16:01.140 --> 01:16:04.720
like bewildered here in headlight. And all of

01:16:04.720 --> 01:16:08.560
a sudden he goes, this guy's cool. this motherfucker's

01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:11.720
cool buy some drinks he buys drinks for the bar

01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:13.699
wow that's a that's a great pivot by the way

01:16:13.699 --> 01:16:15.840
yeah and then sean and sean is just still kind

01:16:15.840 --> 01:16:17.560
of worked up but also like what the fuck just

01:16:17.560 --> 01:16:19.840
happened so he's right and sean had no idea who

01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:22.260
he was sean's from york didn't know who vince

01:16:22.260 --> 01:16:24.479
fawn was oh wow they're watching this and that

01:16:24.479 --> 01:16:26.279
was so it was just hilarious for us to watch

01:16:26.279 --> 01:16:28.739
because we're like vince fawn and sean the york

01:16:28.739 --> 01:16:30.479
boys talking to him and now sean just told me

01:16:30.479 --> 01:16:32.100
he's gonna fuck him up we're like oh this is

01:16:32.100 --> 01:16:35.810
great all right it's good stuff I think, I think,

01:16:35.810 --> 01:16:38.069
I think Chad Taylor got some fisticuffs there

01:16:38.069 --> 01:16:42.090
too one night. We, yeah, we got a, we got in

01:16:42.090 --> 01:16:44.510
a thing. Yeah. And then there was, there was,

01:16:44.529 --> 01:16:46.670
there was a, there was also two in a separate

01:16:46.670 --> 01:16:48.770
time. I think there was like a Marilyn Manson

01:16:48.770 --> 01:16:51.909
squabble you guys had. Oh yeah. But then, but

01:16:51.909 --> 01:16:56.750
then, but then it was, it, I think kind of continued

01:16:56.750 --> 01:16:58.869
to the whiskey bar. I can't remember. Well, yeah,

01:16:58.949 --> 01:17:00.489
we had tour with them. There was a bunch of shit

01:17:00.489 --> 01:17:02.670
that went down with that. And then, but the final,

01:17:02.729 --> 01:17:05.539
the final. the final version of the whole story

01:17:05.539 --> 01:17:07.699
was that we were at whiskey bar was me, Tom,

01:17:07.699 --> 01:17:13.600
Ed, Tom, Rob, and who else was there? And you

01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:15.739
introduced us to Tom, Rob, didn't you? I did.

01:17:15.899 --> 01:17:18.220
Yep. Okay. We'll tell that story. I'm trying

01:17:18.220 --> 01:17:20.239
to get Tom on. He was just, he's just super busy.

01:17:20.319 --> 01:17:23.699
I mean, he's dude, Tom is running like 20, 20

01:17:23.699 --> 01:17:26.560
tours right now with his security people. He's

01:17:26.560 --> 01:17:28.460
killing it. It's freaking awesome. He's doing

01:17:28.460 --> 01:17:32.359
great. So we, we were there, me, Ed and Tom,

01:17:32.399 --> 01:17:35.100
and it could have been, Chad or Patrick were

01:17:35.100 --> 01:17:38.300
there as well but we went outside I wanted to

01:17:38.300 --> 01:17:40.920
go out and smoke and Tom and I were just drinking

01:17:40.920 --> 01:17:42.159
so we were just out there hanging out with them

01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:45.600
and fucking Marilyn Manson walked in with like

01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:47.579
Twiggy the bass player and a bunch of other people

01:17:47.579 --> 01:17:49.600
like an entourage and so we were kind of on one

01:17:49.600 --> 01:17:51.500
side of the bar and they were on the other side

01:17:51.500 --> 01:17:54.560
and so we walk outside and then Twiggy decides

01:17:54.560 --> 01:17:56.520
after all this shit went down on tour which is

01:17:56.520 --> 01:17:59.079
a story I can tell at a later time because it's

01:17:59.079 --> 01:18:01.319
funny in itself but he comes outside and he's

01:18:01.319 --> 01:18:05.270
like he's like he gets he's all tough he's like

01:18:05.270 --> 01:18:07.670
you know fuck you motherfuckers like because

01:18:07.670 --> 01:18:09.630
we you know we had this whole this whole diatribe

01:18:09.630 --> 01:18:11.989
going on on tour he's like fuck you guys and

01:18:11.989 --> 01:18:14.649
ed so ed's like standing here and twiggy's standing

01:18:14.649 --> 01:18:17.090
here and tom and i are on either side of them

01:18:17.090 --> 01:18:20.289
and at one point twiggy's like i'll cut your

01:18:20.289 --> 01:18:25.430
throat to ed and ed like bends down ed like bends

01:18:25.430 --> 01:18:28.510
down in front of him and takes his hand twiggy's

01:18:28.510 --> 01:18:30.829
hand like starts sawing across the back of his

01:18:30.829 --> 01:18:33.670
own neck like go ahead Motherfucker. And Tom

01:18:33.670 --> 01:18:38.229
and I are both in Twiggy's face going... Do it.

01:18:38.329 --> 01:18:42.010
Do it. Do it. And Tom is like 6 '3", 245. He's

01:18:42.010 --> 01:18:45.210
a big fucking guy. And Twiggy's just like, uh

01:18:45.210 --> 01:18:48.010
-oh. And then he just kind of slinks away. And

01:18:48.010 --> 01:18:52.329
so he goes back inside and we walk back inside

01:18:52.329 --> 01:18:55.270
and Marilyn Manson shouts something over to Ed

01:18:55.270 --> 01:18:57.850
like, fuck you or whatever. And right on cue,

01:18:57.930 --> 01:18:59.649
the fucking lights in the place come on because

01:18:59.649 --> 01:19:03.289
it's like 2 a .m. And... Ed jumps up on the couch

01:19:03.289 --> 01:19:06.069
and he's like, you're the darkness and I'm the

01:19:06.069 --> 01:19:09.010
fucking light. Fuck you, motherfucker. He's going

01:19:09.010 --> 01:19:12.569
on this whole diatribe. Security takes them out.

01:19:12.829 --> 01:19:15.050
I don't know how we got to stay. And then the

01:19:15.050 --> 01:19:17.569
next night we're back there and fucking James

01:19:17.569 --> 01:19:22.109
Hetfield and was it Kurt? Kurt Hammond walk in

01:19:22.109 --> 01:19:24.949
from Metallica and they're like, and they see

01:19:24.949 --> 01:19:26.470
Ed in the lobby. They're like, dude, we heard

01:19:26.470 --> 01:19:28.909
about last night. That's fucking awesome because

01:19:28.909 --> 01:19:31.270
they hate Marilyn Manson. Because they tore with

01:19:31.270 --> 01:19:33.090
him and he like, he would, they tore with him

01:19:33.090 --> 01:19:35.229
and he fucking, they just hated each other. So

01:19:35.229 --> 01:19:37.029
he would, James Hetfield was like, that's fucking

01:19:37.029 --> 01:19:40.390
awesome, dude. Fuck that guy. That's great. Funny

01:19:40.390 --> 01:19:42.770
story. That's great. There was some, yeah, there

01:19:42.770 --> 01:19:44.829
was some good, good. Yeah. And Tom Robb is a

01:19:44.829 --> 01:19:47.949
guy you want to decide too. He's, he's, he's,

01:19:48.010 --> 01:19:51.430
he's got a heart of gold. He's a big boy with

01:19:51.430 --> 01:19:54.500
a shaved head. and tats and he looks like he's

01:19:54.500 --> 01:19:57.899
in a biker gang but he's uh like so just on site

01:19:57.899 --> 01:20:00.180
alone you're like i'm not gonna go mess around

01:20:00.180 --> 01:20:03.979
right and then he's highly trained to boot it

01:20:03.979 --> 01:20:06.319
highly trained and he's also smart and doesn't

01:20:06.319 --> 01:20:08.359
you know like he's just he's kind of he's the

01:20:08.359 --> 01:20:11.000
perfect the perfect security type situation you

01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:13.640
know so he took a he took a whole muay thai knife

01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:17.020
fighting course oh shit and the final the final

01:20:17.020 --> 01:20:21.520
test was with real knives jesus like the instructor

01:20:21.520 --> 01:20:24.100
was going at him fucking like trying to kill

01:20:24.100 --> 01:20:27.439
him and he had to defend him I was like that's

01:20:27.439 --> 01:20:30.720
fucking crazy so anyway he's a badass seems like

01:20:30.720 --> 01:20:33.819
Twiggy would be a good keyboard warrior a person

01:20:33.819 --> 01:20:36.279
who likes to say things and then like no consequences

01:20:36.279 --> 01:20:39.340
coming yeah Marilyn Manson has this whole like

01:20:39.340 --> 01:20:41.739
they're evil and they're scary and it's like

01:20:41.739 --> 01:20:45.180
dude come on Brian take it easy take it easy

01:20:45.180 --> 01:20:48.590
Brian that's really funny um guys i actually

01:20:48.590 --> 01:20:52.050
have to exit though is that okay sorry i am no

01:20:52.050 --> 01:20:54.649
no no it's i i i have a meeting coming up um

01:20:54.649 --> 01:20:56.729
but it's been a pleasure chatting with you guys

01:20:56.729 --> 01:21:00.050
and um uh good time good stories man those those

01:21:00.050 --> 01:21:02.229
are uh those are awesome times with the band

01:21:02.229 --> 01:21:05.350
live yeah very very cool and like i told you

01:21:05.350 --> 01:21:10.300
i really got spoiled but um but uh whatever Do

01:21:10.300 --> 01:21:12.979
you want to direct anybody, any would -be clients

01:21:12.979 --> 01:21:14.520
to where they could find you or anything like

01:21:14.520 --> 01:21:16.260
that? Do you put out your info in case people

01:21:16.260 --> 01:21:18.460
want to get in touch with you? If so, now's the

01:21:18.460 --> 01:21:21.720
time to let people know. If not, all well as

01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:26.460
well. No, I mean, that's okay. I mean that respectfully.

01:21:26.619 --> 01:21:30.260
I get it. I completely get it. But I'm going

01:21:30.260 --> 01:21:33.300
to check out your buddy's film that you told

01:21:33.300 --> 01:21:37.119
me about. I may reach back to you guys, okay?

01:21:37.399 --> 01:21:40.359
Sounds good. Hey, man, thank you for coming on,

01:21:40.439 --> 01:21:41.979
man. I really appreciate it, and it's good to

01:21:41.979 --> 01:21:43.699
see you, and we need to get together in person

01:21:43.699 --> 01:21:46.300
soon. Absolutely. Absolutely, buddy. All right,

01:21:46.319 --> 01:21:48.420
guys. John, nice to meet you. Take care. Bye.

01:21:48.479 --> 01:21:52.159
Take care, Sean. See you, bud. Sean Fay, ladies

01:21:52.159 --> 01:21:55.819
and gentlemen. Fun, dude. He's got some cool

01:21:55.819 --> 01:21:59.529
-ass stories, dude. Yeah. I think we barely scratched

01:21:59.529 --> 01:22:01.189
the surface, but that's all right. Barely. I

01:22:01.189 --> 01:22:03.909
was just going to say. We can have him back on

01:22:03.909 --> 01:22:06.270
sometime. Yeah. That's the beauty of the show

01:22:06.270 --> 01:22:09.569
is we kind of get to meet a lot of people on

01:22:09.569 --> 01:22:12.149
this show, but a lot of times it's the first

01:22:12.149 --> 01:22:13.750
time that the audience is getting to hear about

01:22:13.750 --> 01:22:15.409
stuff, and we're just kind of breaking the conversation.

01:22:15.609 --> 01:22:18.550
So it's all stuff that leads into future appearances

01:22:18.550 --> 01:22:21.590
and future stuff like that. So we just introduce

01:22:21.590 --> 01:22:23.850
you guys to him, get you excited, and then we'll

01:22:23.850 --> 01:22:26.979
bring him back. Bring him back. How funny is

01:22:26.979 --> 01:22:29.239
that? A lot of your friends, like Eric being

01:22:29.239 --> 01:22:32.119
one, they have all these stories mixing around

01:22:32.119 --> 01:22:34.779
with, you know, kind of rock and roll legends,

01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:37.199
royalty, and Hollywood people, and you're just

01:22:37.199 --> 01:22:39.720
kind of off doing your thing, not even paying

01:22:39.720 --> 01:22:43.439
mind to it. Well, I mean, I would invite them.

01:22:43.460 --> 01:22:46.979
And Eric and Sean were at the same HFS festival,

01:22:47.119 --> 01:22:49.319
the Tibetan Freedom Concert, excuse me. So they

01:22:49.319 --> 01:22:52.079
were at the same venue because Eric was telling

01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:54.899
stories about that as well. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

01:22:54.920 --> 01:22:56.420
I bring my friends out and hang out with them

01:22:56.420 --> 01:22:57.760
and then, you know, I have to do the band stuff

01:22:57.760 --> 01:23:02.659
and, you know, so, and then after a show, even

01:23:02.659 --> 01:23:04.420
back then when I was younger, I would just be

01:23:04.420 --> 01:23:07.899
tired and I'm like, I'm fucking. Yeah. Bed. Like,

01:23:07.899 --> 01:23:10.760
you know, I'm, I'm not, I'm not one that like

01:23:10.760 --> 01:23:13.520
really gives a fuck what's going on. Yeah. Well,

01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:16.079
after the show and stuff like, Oh, you're going

01:23:16.079 --> 01:23:18.060
out with Michael's type. Like I've hung out with

01:23:18.060 --> 01:23:19.359
Mike's type. He's a fucking great guy. And I

01:23:19.359 --> 01:23:21.619
loved hanging out with him because he's a band

01:23:21.619 --> 01:23:23.880
that we were heavily influenced by, but sure.

01:23:24.350 --> 01:23:26.470
I don't know. Sometimes I just feel like, fuck

01:23:26.470 --> 01:23:28.949
it, I don't care. Yeah. No, it's key, dude. I

01:23:28.949 --> 01:23:31.689
mean, people are people. Yeah, they've done a

01:23:31.689 --> 01:23:33.750
lot of cool shit, but they're really just, they

01:23:33.750 --> 01:23:36.210
both, you know, they all shit, they all piss,

01:23:36.310 --> 01:23:38.310
they all fart, you know, just breathe in the

01:23:38.310 --> 01:23:42.789
same air we breathe, you know? It is cool, but

01:23:42.789 --> 01:23:46.930
yeah, I totally get it. Mr. Bob A., who feels

01:23:46.930 --> 01:23:49.029
left out sometimes here, Chad, why don't you

01:23:49.029 --> 01:23:52.689
come on video and talk to us? Hey, Bob is coming

01:23:52.689 --> 01:23:56.000
on. Here we go. What's up? Yeah. Pallywhacker

01:23:56.000 --> 01:24:01.100
away. Not doing a Jeffrey Toobin online. Yeah,

01:24:01.180 --> 01:24:03.899
man. Camera's coming on. Can you hear me? Yes.

01:24:04.399 --> 01:24:09.239
All right. I'm about to bring my camera on. He's

01:24:09.239 --> 01:24:12.199
warning us. My first video appearance. There

01:24:12.199 --> 01:24:14.880
he is. What's going on, guys? Yeah. He's got

01:24:14.880 --> 01:24:19.100
the Gucky hat on and everything. Gucky. Gucky.

01:24:19.100 --> 01:24:23.409
I love it. Gucky, right? I have a couple of things

01:24:23.409 --> 01:24:27.010
I want to talk about. I want to talk about this

01:24:27.010 --> 01:24:30.409
purge that Trump was talking about. First thing,

01:24:30.449 --> 01:24:33.050
I got a question. Is that a Banksy art piece

01:24:33.050 --> 01:24:36.630
to the left in the background that I see? It's

01:24:36.630 --> 01:24:40.310
his right. It's my left, whatever. How dare you,

01:24:40.310 --> 01:24:43.449
Chad? I think it got shredded during the auction.

01:24:43.930 --> 01:24:50.189
I don't know my ups and downs here. It was actually

01:24:50.189 --> 01:24:55.369
shredded. Did you know that? No. He had it in

01:24:55.369 --> 01:24:59.329
a case, and when the auction ended, the painting

01:24:59.329 --> 01:25:03.109
automatically shredded. It was in the case. Oh,

01:25:03.350 --> 01:25:06.710
right. He did that on purpose, right? Yeah, yeah,

01:25:06.710 --> 01:25:11.029
yeah. Gotta love him. Yeah, Banksy's the man.

01:25:11.850 --> 01:25:15.250
Yeah, I have a lot of things to share. I want

01:25:15.250 --> 01:25:18.989
to start with this Purge thing with Trump. So

01:25:18.989 --> 01:25:22.010
let me get to my other desk. Are you talking

01:25:22.010 --> 01:25:23.630
the Elon Musk thing where they want to get rid

01:25:23.630 --> 01:25:26.869
of all the bureaucracy and fire a bunch of people?

01:25:27.029 --> 01:25:30.569
He wants to get rid of all the criminals. Well,

01:25:30.630 --> 01:25:33.909
that too, yeah. Got it. Got it. Get it good.

01:25:35.210 --> 01:25:40.420
Because Elon and Vivek have agreed that. At least

01:25:40.420 --> 01:25:44.039
75 % of the staff of all the bureaucrats in D

01:25:44.039 --> 01:25:47.220
.C. need to fucking go. And I agree. You think?

01:25:47.460 --> 01:25:51.220
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Now, are you seeing my

01:25:51.220 --> 01:25:55.460
other screen? Yes. Yep, we see the YouTube purge.

01:25:55.939 --> 01:25:59.159
Hi, I'm about to play. So if you want to listen,

01:25:59.359 --> 01:26:06.039
check this out. It's crazy. This is the Rebel

01:26:06.039 --> 01:26:10.239
Call channel. Welcome to today's show. If this

01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:12.939
feels like it's something out of a movie, well,

01:26:13.180 --> 01:26:15.800
it is something out of a movie. And everything

01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:18.460
you see going on in politics is directly out

01:26:18.460 --> 01:26:21.119
of a movie as well. Because it's all fake. And

01:26:21.119 --> 01:26:24.159
the people pretending to run for president or

01:26:24.159 --> 01:26:28.760
run for senator or run for governor are all preselected.

01:26:28.819 --> 01:26:31.739
And they're all playing roles on television.

01:26:31.739 --> 01:26:33.960
And remember, none of this stuff would be going

01:26:33.960 --> 01:26:36.300
on, this civil unrest, if they didn't pick the

01:26:36.300 --> 01:26:39.180
perfect characters. and put the perfect characters

01:26:39.180 --> 01:26:43.420
in place, one incompetent Joe Biden and one over

01:26:43.420 --> 01:26:46.600
-the -top, aggressive, bully -like character

01:26:46.600 --> 01:26:49.439
that Donald Trump plays. And, of course, anybody

01:26:49.439 --> 01:26:52.100
out there who is caught up in the psyop will

01:26:52.100 --> 01:26:54.260
defend Donald Trump to the end and not realize

01:26:54.260 --> 01:26:56.739
that their vote doesn't actually count, and these

01:26:56.739 --> 01:27:00.239
actors that are put in place are to keep the

01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:04.979
civilians. Under control. Because if they didn't

01:27:04.979 --> 01:27:07.319
have somebody in place, all the stuff the government

01:27:07.319 --> 01:27:09.680
has been doing, the civilians would not put up

01:27:09.680 --> 01:27:12.020
with. The civilians would have risen up against

01:27:12.020 --> 01:27:14.720
it. But Donald Trump keeps the civilians under

01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:17.300
check. And listen to this. Trump floated a plan

01:27:17.300 --> 01:27:22.479
to end crime, which is basically the purge. And

01:27:22.479 --> 01:27:24.760
if you don't know the plot for the purge, I'll

01:27:24.760 --> 01:27:26.800
tell you in a few minutes. But Donald Trump gave

01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:30.829
a speech and trending all over America. was the

01:27:30.829 --> 01:27:33.909
purge for the last 24 hours because Donald Trump

01:27:33.909 --> 01:27:37.350
was literally calling on a police state. He was

01:27:37.350 --> 01:27:41.029
calling on a totalitarian state -controlled police

01:27:41.029 --> 01:27:45.250
force that would keep... So, Bobby, I'm just

01:27:45.250 --> 01:27:46.810
stopping right there because I had... So, we

01:27:46.810 --> 01:27:52.770
only had audio, no video. So, it was just a still

01:27:52.770 --> 01:27:58.430
picture playing, but no moving parts. So just

01:27:58.430 --> 01:28:02.729
explain what's going on there to me, Bobby. All

01:28:02.729 --> 01:28:05.430
right. So he's saying that he wants to give the

01:28:05.430 --> 01:28:09.489
police power to do whatever they want and pretty

01:28:09.489 --> 01:28:12.710
much have 24 hours where the police could just

01:28:12.710 --> 01:28:15.869
– because they have people in San Francisco just

01:28:15.869 --> 01:28:19.149
running in stores legally just – they're legally

01:28:19.149 --> 01:28:23.250
shoplifting. Oh, yeah. Well, that's still up

01:28:23.250 --> 01:28:29.289
to $950 per store. yeah all day long in california

01:28:29.289 --> 01:28:30.829
it's all of california not just san francisco

01:28:30.829 --> 01:28:32.949
but sorry about the video i don't know why i

01:28:32.949 --> 01:28:37.390
wasn't playing no it happens um okay so i because

01:28:37.390 --> 01:28:39.090
i think you share different windows and stuff

01:28:39.090 --> 01:28:40.430
like that so you could share like your screen

01:28:40.430 --> 01:28:42.890
you could share a window you could share a program

01:28:42.890 --> 01:28:46.770
uh so so again i kind of lost a little bit is

01:28:46.770 --> 01:28:48.510
trump calling for that where he's going to give

01:28:48.510 --> 01:28:51.399
police 24 hours to do whatever they want Well,

01:28:51.399 --> 01:28:53.760
yeah, he was saying that. Yeah, he was saying,

01:28:53.800 --> 01:28:56.520
well, yeah, if you want, I'll go a little further

01:28:56.520 --> 01:29:00.380
into it where he's talking. Let me go into it

01:29:00.380 --> 01:29:04.239
a little further where he's talking. Sure. One

01:29:04.239 --> 01:29:08.739
rough hour, and I mean real rough. Are you wearing

01:29:08.739 --> 01:29:12.899
one? And it will end. No. Is that sharing? No.

01:29:13.239 --> 01:29:18.029
This is normal. Breast cancer is also estrogen

01:29:18.029 --> 01:29:21.829
-driven and strikes one in eight women. We are

01:29:21.829 --> 01:29:25.529
mass poisoning all of our children. This is true.

01:29:25.770 --> 01:29:29.770
Hold on, hold on, hold on. What is this? This

01:29:29.770 --> 01:29:31.609
is not what I'm supposed to. Yeah, it is true.

01:29:31.710 --> 01:29:35.130
It's very true. Why is this playing now? Hold

01:29:35.130 --> 01:29:40.149
on a second. I'm sorry. So this is breaking news.

01:29:40.229 --> 01:29:42.170
Iranian regime launches hundreds of missiles

01:29:42.170 --> 01:29:47.460
towards Holy Land. They did that. Is it sharing?

01:29:47.840 --> 01:29:50.140
Yeah, sharing. We're getting right into that,

01:29:50.199 --> 01:29:53.979
Chad. Or somebody running for office say something

01:29:53.979 --> 01:29:57.079
like that before. But that's the situation we

01:29:57.079 --> 01:29:59.460
live in now. These actors are literally playing

01:29:59.460 --> 01:30:01.399
roles. They sound like professional wrestlers.

01:30:01.460 --> 01:30:03.579
They're calling on violence. Then you have the

01:30:03.579 --> 01:30:07.159
other side who is allowing violence to occur.

01:30:07.640 --> 01:30:10.239
All the stuff we saw with the BLM and the government

01:30:10.239 --> 01:30:11.859
turning a blind eye. Even though Trump was the

01:30:11.859 --> 01:30:14.300
president during... The majority of those. Let's

01:30:14.300 --> 01:30:16.199
see what else Trump was saying. Hold on. Let

01:30:16.199 --> 01:30:19.239
me get back. I'm going to get back to what Trump.

01:30:19.300 --> 01:30:21.619
I swear, audience, we will have Bobby have these

01:30:21.619 --> 01:30:25.699
clips. Let them run. Let's go out of business,

01:30:25.779 --> 01:30:28.020
right? They don't pay rent. The city doesn't

01:30:28.020 --> 01:30:30.720
have money. It's a chain of events that's so

01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:34.279
bad. He's absolutely right. One rush hour. And

01:30:34.279 --> 01:30:37.460
I mean real rough. The word will get out. And

01:30:37.460 --> 01:30:43.159
it will end immediately. End immediately. You

01:30:43.159 --> 01:30:46.239
know? It'll end immediately. So, I mean, that's

01:30:46.239 --> 01:30:48.640
a scene out of a movie. It really is. It's a

01:30:48.640 --> 01:30:52.340
scene out of election year, you know? It's crazy.

01:30:55.380 --> 01:30:58.399
Yeah, this is a fucking big deal here. No one's

01:30:58.399 --> 01:31:01.819
talking about. So, Chad, because Bobby started

01:31:01.819 --> 01:31:04.840
sharing that video, and he said, so, Iran has

01:31:04.840 --> 01:31:07.739
launched missiles towards Israel? Yes. Hundreds,

01:31:07.899 --> 01:31:10.840
yes. Hundreds. Okay. I have that, too. I was

01:31:10.840 --> 01:31:13.100
going to pull that up. Yeah, man. And the White

01:31:13.100 --> 01:31:15.760
House had said that this attack was imminent

01:31:15.760 --> 01:31:19.199
and they weren't putting Iran in their place.

01:31:19.260 --> 01:31:21.539
Like, shouldn't have Joe Biden have, like, done

01:31:21.539 --> 01:31:23.840
a press conference? Like, motherfuckers, if you

01:31:23.840 --> 01:31:25.920
do this. He doesn't do a press conference for

01:31:25.920 --> 01:31:29.420
shit. He doesn't do anything. He's feckless and

01:31:29.420 --> 01:31:32.880
doing nothing. Probably before he hit play on

01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:35.119
that. Yeah, but it's just like, so if we knew

01:31:35.119 --> 01:31:37.520
this was going to happen, there should have been

01:31:37.520 --> 01:31:39.439
strong language coming out of the White House.

01:31:39.460 --> 01:31:43.640
Like, motherfuckers, if you do do this, They

01:31:43.640 --> 01:31:45.859
can't. Then half their base is pissed off because

01:31:45.859 --> 01:31:48.020
they don't want a free Palestine, so they can't

01:31:48.020 --> 01:31:49.920
fucking come out and make any statements about

01:31:49.920 --> 01:31:52.220
it. Crazy. Because they care about terrorist

01:31:52.220 --> 01:31:56.739
supporters. Crazy. You know, it's crazy how they

01:31:56.739 --> 01:31:59.420
infiltrated the pages. That's one thing that

01:31:59.420 --> 01:32:03.720
I, because there was laptops exploding also,

01:32:03.899 --> 01:32:06.840
solar panels. I don't know if it was maybe an

01:32:06.840 --> 01:32:10.159
EMP attack. It could have been an EMP pulse attack.

01:32:10.720 --> 01:32:13.619
I don't know if you ever watched Mr. Robot, but

01:32:13.619 --> 01:32:16.899
in the show Mr. Robot, he hacked into a business,

01:32:17.079 --> 01:32:20.239
a company, and he said there are battery servers,

01:32:20.439 --> 01:32:23.420
the firmware to make the batteries overheat,

01:32:23.420 --> 01:32:27.939
and the whole building exploded. Yeah, I mean,

01:32:27.960 --> 01:32:29.739
if there's big enough batteries in there, I'm

01:32:29.739 --> 01:32:31.819
sure that could happen, right? I don't know how.

01:32:32.020 --> 01:32:34.619
I know they're flammable. I don't know how explosive

01:32:34.619 --> 01:32:37.399
they are because these pagers actually exploded.

01:32:38.359 --> 01:32:40.359
If they catch fire, everything will explode,

01:32:40.479 --> 01:32:43.460
you know? Yeah. But, I mean, to the point where

01:32:43.460 --> 01:32:44.840
it seemed like there was, like, some kind of

01:32:44.840 --> 01:32:47.539
explosives in them, not just... I had heard that

01:32:47.539 --> 01:32:49.939
there were. They did put small amounts of explosives

01:32:49.939 --> 01:32:52.619
in each device somehow. They were saying that

01:32:52.619 --> 01:32:56.840
there's three grams of C4 in each pager. Right.

01:32:57.180 --> 01:32:58.659
But then they were saying... The logistics...

01:32:58.659 --> 01:33:01.899
They're blowing up, too. Like, so, like, it's

01:33:01.899 --> 01:33:05.699
confusing. The whole story is confusing. Well,

01:33:05.720 --> 01:33:07.359
yeah. I mean, we'll never know. It's because

01:33:07.359 --> 01:33:09.260
we're only getting what they want us to know,

01:33:09.319 --> 01:33:12.199
right? We're not getting the full journalistic

01:33:12.199 --> 01:33:14.560
spectrum of it. We're getting the narrative they

01:33:14.560 --> 01:33:17.220
want put out and what we're being told. Did you

01:33:17.220 --> 01:33:21.520
see the Tesla cars where the flooding was? All

01:33:21.520 --> 01:33:25.100
of them exploding, fire? Yeah, I saw one video

01:33:25.100 --> 01:33:29.140
of one catching fire in a flooded garage. He

01:33:29.140 --> 01:33:34.640
went for profit over safety and he didn't have...

01:33:34.760 --> 01:33:37.239
The battery's protected. I mean, it's obvious

01:33:37.239 --> 01:33:41.399
that water damage can happen. I mean, that's

01:33:41.399 --> 01:33:43.539
something he should have thought about. The dude's

01:33:43.539 --> 01:33:45.880
trying to go to Mars, and he can't get an electric

01:33:45.880 --> 01:33:49.500
car right? I mean, seriously. Yeah, but is it,

01:33:49.539 --> 01:33:53.180
so in other words, is this like a one -off, or

01:33:53.180 --> 01:33:55.560
is this like a problem with all of them? There

01:33:55.560 --> 01:33:58.340
was a problem with a few of them. There was flooding

01:33:58.340 --> 01:34:04.260
and a lot of cars. You could look into it yourself

01:34:04.260 --> 01:34:07.819
and find it. It's on mainstream media if that's

01:34:07.819 --> 01:34:12.979
what you trust. It's all over. They were catching

01:34:12.979 --> 01:34:16.579
fire. It's because the battery is not protected.

01:34:16.819 --> 01:34:20.680
They're not sealed enough where they're protected

01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:26.180
from flooding. Right. I've seen interviews where

01:34:26.180 --> 01:34:29.220
he says that the batteries are waterproof, but

01:34:29.220 --> 01:34:32.939
obviously not in this case. You saw the video

01:34:32.939 --> 01:34:35.560
of the fire, right? Yeah, I did. It was a white

01:34:35.560 --> 01:34:37.479
Tesla in a garage, and yeah, it just catches

01:34:37.479 --> 01:34:41.619
fire. Well, then you've also heard of Teslas

01:34:41.619 --> 01:34:43.399
because they've got that full self -driving feature

01:34:43.399 --> 01:34:46.840
where it's like dignitaries have been driven

01:34:46.840 --> 01:34:49.880
into a lake in a locked car, couldn't get out.

01:34:51.319 --> 01:34:53.859
Yeah, I've got friends that use those robo -taxis,

01:34:53.899 --> 01:34:56.460
and I'm just like, Fuck that. That was in Leave

01:34:56.460 --> 01:34:59.159
the World Behind when they had all the Teslas

01:34:59.159 --> 01:35:02.619
blocking the road. I don't know if you saw that

01:35:02.619 --> 01:35:05.680
movie, but they had all the Teslas. Oh, I didn't

01:35:05.680 --> 01:35:10.439
watch that. The highway up. The Obama movie,

01:35:10.699 --> 01:35:11.819
Leave the World Behind. Yeah, that's why I didn't

01:35:11.819 --> 01:35:15.659
watch it. No, it was actually a movie that you

01:35:15.659 --> 01:35:17.979
should watch because it'll show you what can

01:35:17.979 --> 01:35:20.739
happen. Bobby, you watching the debate tonight?

01:35:20.899 --> 01:35:26.260
The vice presidential debate? I may watch a little

01:35:26.260 --> 01:35:31.279
bit, but I cannot stand. I cannot stand. But

01:35:31.279 --> 01:35:33.380
I'm going to watch a tiny bit of it probably.

01:35:33.899 --> 01:35:37.439
Yeah. My thing with watching stuff live now is,

01:35:37.460 --> 01:35:39.979
like, I don't know if I could rely on videos

01:35:39.979 --> 01:35:41.800
that have been made after the fact because I

01:35:41.800 --> 01:35:43.819
don't know if they did some mistakes in them

01:35:43.819 --> 01:35:46.260
and stuff. So it's like you almost got to watch

01:35:46.260 --> 01:35:48.520
it live to make sure what they're putting together

01:35:48.520 --> 01:35:51.510
after the fact is correct. Yeah, that's very

01:35:51.510 --> 01:35:54.189
true. That's very true. Because with deep fake

01:35:54.189 --> 01:35:58.729
technology and the AI, it's getting crazy. Like

01:35:58.729 --> 01:36:00.989
you guys were talking about before, deep fakes

01:36:00.989 --> 01:36:04.909
are going to get unreal. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

01:36:06.810 --> 01:36:09.069
Gracious audience up there. Next week, we do

01:36:09.069 --> 01:36:11.350
have another guest coming on. Mr. Mike Jones

01:36:11.350 --> 01:36:16.689
will be on. Tell him who Mike Jones is. Do you

01:36:16.689 --> 01:36:18.409
want me to tell him or do you want you to tell

01:36:18.409 --> 01:36:20.189
him, Chad? I can tell him. He's a Pennsylvania

01:36:20.189 --> 01:36:24.189
congressman, representative, Republican from

01:36:24.189 --> 01:36:27.289
New York County. Sorry, from my county. First

01:36:27.289 --> 01:36:30.270
politician on the show. He wants to come in and

01:36:30.270 --> 01:36:36.130
talk about the election. But yeah, it'd be cool.

01:36:36.170 --> 01:36:38.550
He's a successful businessman from New York and

01:36:38.550 --> 01:36:43.489
he decided to run for as representative for the

01:36:43.489 --> 01:36:46.680
state of Pennsylvania. And he's been in, I think,

01:36:46.680 --> 01:36:49.399
her three or four terms now. But anyway, it'd

01:36:49.399 --> 01:36:51.439
be cool to talk to Mike. For an election, because

01:36:51.439 --> 01:36:54.460
he wants his agenda and stuff to be put out there

01:36:54.460 --> 01:36:57.340
and all that jazz. So it'll be cool, fun for

01:36:57.340 --> 01:37:01.680
us. I mean, I think seeing business people getting

01:37:01.680 --> 01:37:04.720
into politics was actually a great idea because

01:37:04.720 --> 01:37:08.060
the country is a fucking business. I mean, it's...

01:37:08.060 --> 01:37:12.699
Yep, exactly. It was incorporated in the 1870s.

01:37:12.699 --> 01:37:15.489
I mean... I don't know if people know about this,

01:37:15.649 --> 01:37:18.770
but if you do your research, you could find out

01:37:18.770 --> 01:37:21.850
that the United States is a corporation. That's

01:37:21.850 --> 01:37:24.449
right. It's a giant corporation. Well, we had

01:37:24.449 --> 01:37:27.310
actors, right? Reagan was an actor, so we had

01:37:27.310 --> 01:37:29.289
him as a president, but now we're getting into

01:37:29.289 --> 01:37:32.689
the businessmen becoming real politicians and

01:37:32.689 --> 01:37:35.529
showing people how to run stuff properly. Exactly,

01:37:35.630 --> 01:37:40.890
exactly, exactly. Which is good. Folks, go out

01:37:40.890 --> 01:37:46.039
there, get vaccinated. COVID -19 is real. Stay

01:37:46.039 --> 01:37:49.260
six feet apart. Actually, all the normies, the

01:37:49.260 --> 01:37:52.699
99 % of you, you could get vaccinated. Please.

01:37:52.880 --> 01:37:57.500
Yes. Go ahead. Please do yourself a favor. Yes.

01:37:57.960 --> 01:38:00.340
All right, gracious audience. We love you. We

01:38:00.340 --> 01:38:03.020
shall see you next Tuesday. Chad and myself will

01:38:03.020 --> 01:38:05.500
be on Instagram live coming up this week. We'll

01:38:05.500 --> 01:38:07.859
tell you the date coming up probably somewhere

01:38:07.859 --> 01:38:10.039
between Thursday, Friday, Saturday. We'll discuss

01:38:10.039 --> 01:38:12.659
it afterwards, let you know for sure. Yeah, probably

01:38:12.659 --> 01:38:15.840
Friday. The kids go back to mom's on Friday.

01:38:16.159 --> 01:38:18.539
Okay. Well, you heard it there. Evening free.

01:38:18.739 --> 01:38:22.060
Yes. Evening free. You want to talk about the

01:38:22.060 --> 01:38:25.939
horse shutdown? Horse shutdown. We can quickly,

01:38:26.119 --> 01:38:30.920
but you know, my bladder problem. Man, you got

01:38:30.920 --> 01:38:34.380
to get. Get that checked out, brother. Dude,

01:38:34.420 --> 01:38:36.140
I don't know what to tell you. I drink two cups

01:38:36.140 --> 01:38:40.859
of coffee beforehand. I pee at 12 .45, so I don't

01:38:40.859 --> 01:38:44.000
do it, but it's now 2 .40, and it's almost two

01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:49.420
hours. I'm going to wear a diaper, but... Let's

01:38:49.420 --> 01:38:51.739
talk about ports and then... Yeah, got to go.

01:38:51.899 --> 01:38:54.960
All right, I have one thing I could share real

01:38:54.960 --> 01:38:57.720
quick that's talking about the ports. Also, by

01:38:57.720 --> 01:38:59.659
the way, this was not covered on mainstream media

01:38:59.659 --> 01:39:04.029
probably until today. Huge. I mean, this is from

01:39:04.029 --> 01:39:07.250
Maine to Texas, all the ports. This is what it's

01:39:07.250 --> 01:39:10.010
affecting. The East Coast is completely shut.

01:39:10.130 --> 01:39:16.930
New Jersey ports, Newark port shuts down. It's

01:39:16.930 --> 01:39:21.010
going to cause prices to go even higher than

01:39:21.010 --> 01:39:24.750
they are. The market is already taking a hit.

01:39:24.989 --> 01:39:28.270
Everything is down. I saw that. If you're into

01:39:28.270 --> 01:39:32.609
crypto or stocks, Now's the time to buy the dips.

01:39:32.850 --> 01:39:36.489
I mean, if you have, if you have, this is also

01:39:36.489 --> 01:39:39.890
going to cause like food shortage, uh, problem

01:39:39.890 --> 01:39:43.430
shortages, car shortages, lumber, like, uh, building

01:39:43.430 --> 01:39:45.789
material shortages. I mean, everything, everything.

01:39:46.489 --> 01:39:49.550
Absolutely. Yeah. Water, you know, shit that

01:39:49.550 --> 01:39:52.189
we need, uh, shit that this could have been avoided.

01:39:52.800 --> 01:39:55.640
uh shit that the house could have been involved

01:39:55.640 --> 01:39:58.279
with long before the shutdown happened but like

01:39:58.279 --> 01:40:00.899
i said no one covered it until fucking now like

01:40:00.899 --> 01:40:02.979
you didn't hear a goddamn peep about it until

01:40:02.979 --> 01:40:06.920
the shit shut down yeah and and the president's

01:40:06.920 --> 01:40:09.659
like oh i can't get involved okay yeah don't

01:40:09.659 --> 01:40:11.920
don't worry about this this is fine right yeah

01:40:11.920 --> 01:40:13.279
but send another let's send another two billion

01:40:13.279 --> 01:40:15.020
dollars to ukraine that's that's fucking higher

01:40:15.020 --> 01:40:17.100
on your priority list but don't worry about shutting

01:40:17.100 --> 01:40:18.800
down all the ports in the country it's all good

01:40:19.419 --> 01:40:22.439
Exactly. And there's a Harley Taft Act that he

01:40:22.439 --> 01:40:28.300
could use to make them go to work. And he said,

01:40:28.399 --> 01:40:30.819
oh, I'm not going to get involved. It's something

01:40:30.819 --> 01:40:33.279
that they have to discuss over the table. I mean,

01:40:33.340 --> 01:40:36.199
it's insane what's going on. Well, it's clear

01:40:36.199 --> 01:40:39.000
that they're not getting it. The talks aren't

01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:41.300
working, right? Because the shutdown has happened.

01:40:41.520 --> 01:40:46.329
Right. It's here. It's here. The time to get

01:40:46.329 --> 01:40:48.569
involved was before this happened, you fucking

01:40:48.569 --> 01:40:52.409
moron behind the wheel, Joe Biden. And now that

01:40:52.409 --> 01:40:54.829
it has happened, it's certainly time for you

01:40:54.829 --> 01:40:58.470
to get involved and try to help us. He's too

01:40:58.470 --> 01:41:02.050
busy going on vacation, going to the beach. He's

01:41:02.050 --> 01:41:04.829
got better things to do. He can't even care less

01:41:04.829 --> 01:41:07.250
about fucking North Carolina. He doesn't give

01:41:07.250 --> 01:41:13.439
a shit. No. No. It's by design. I see the design

01:41:13.439 --> 01:41:15.840
and everything. I see the pattern and everything,

01:41:16.039 --> 01:41:18.880
and it's just something I see. Trump probably

01:41:18.880 --> 01:41:22.039
went and visited North Carolina and donated $25

01:41:22.039 --> 01:41:26.439
million. Kamala, nothing. Joe Biden, nothing.

01:41:27.020 --> 01:41:28.779
Made one comment about it. I was on the phone

01:41:28.779 --> 01:41:31.939
for two hours about it yesterday. Oh, okay. Sounds

01:41:31.939 --> 01:41:34.439
like you got a lot done. You put a cap on your

01:41:34.439 --> 01:41:36.119
day at two hours on the phone. You're like, oh,

01:41:36.119 --> 01:41:38.680
I got to go to bed now, you fucking jackass.

01:41:39.239 --> 01:41:41.119
Yeah, he was on the phone for two hours, Chad,

01:41:41.180 --> 01:41:43.779
and it still got shut down and all that. I'm

01:41:43.779 --> 01:41:44.880
not talking about the strike. I'm talking about

01:41:44.880 --> 01:41:48.279
North Carolina and the floods and shit. The military

01:41:48.279 --> 01:41:50.920
should really take over the government. The military

01:41:50.920 --> 01:41:54.439
should just take over. Don't say that. Don't

01:41:54.439 --> 01:41:57.859
say that. I mean, for real. I mean, there is

01:41:57.859 --> 01:42:01.260
a point where that can happen. Right. You got

01:42:01.260 --> 01:42:03.880
no one at the wheel. I mean, who the fuck is

01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:08.529
driving this ship? Exactly. Right. Just so everybody's

01:42:08.529 --> 01:42:12.069
aware, I'm still for democracy. I'm not for martial

01:42:12.069 --> 01:42:15.350
law and all that stuff, as Bobby's saying. I'm

01:42:15.350 --> 01:42:18.109
not for that at all. I'm not saying that at all.

01:42:19.630 --> 01:42:21.189
He's just saying, who's running the government?

01:42:21.329 --> 01:42:23.470
Who the fuck is running? Who's in charge? Who's

01:42:23.470 --> 01:42:27.390
in charge? Biden already basically got cooed

01:42:27.390 --> 01:42:29.789
out by not being able to run. They basically

01:42:29.789 --> 01:42:33.149
said, you're not running. He had to bow out.

01:42:33.609 --> 01:42:36.369
Yeah. And that's basically a coup. I mean, that's

01:42:36.369 --> 01:42:38.510
a coup. Right. Just fucking took an active sitting

01:42:38.510 --> 01:42:39.970
president, told him, no, you're not running.

01:42:40.310 --> 01:42:42.670
And they selected they put a selected candidate

01:42:42.670 --> 01:42:45.710
in for him. Like, OK, sounds completely democratic

01:42:45.710 --> 01:42:49.069
and normal to me. He was so adamant about he

01:42:49.069 --> 01:42:52.829
is going to run unless God himself comes in and

01:42:52.829 --> 01:42:55.430
tells him he shouldn't. I guess God came in.

01:42:55.649 --> 01:42:59.710
Yeah. And then Obama, he's got the complete opposite.

01:42:59.750 --> 01:43:03.029
Well, I should step down and. our vice president,

01:43:03.069 --> 01:43:05.689
Kamala, is the best candidate for the job. Like,

01:43:05.710 --> 01:43:07.369
motherfucker, that's not what you said three

01:43:07.369 --> 01:43:10.550
days ago. You said, unless God stepped in, you

01:43:10.550 --> 01:43:13.550
were the best person, most fit for it, and then

01:43:13.550 --> 01:43:16.789
now, all of a sudden, you're out. This is God.

01:43:16.890 --> 01:43:21.510
Obama did step in. Right. What are you talking

01:43:21.510 --> 01:43:24.390
about? I said this is basically Obama's third

01:43:24.390 --> 01:43:27.449
term. I mean, he's everything. I guarantee it.

01:43:28.069 --> 01:43:31.859
Oh, and if... If silly Connelly gets in, it'll

01:43:31.859 --> 01:43:34.979
be his fourth term. Exactly. Exactly. I was just

01:43:34.979 --> 01:43:37.659
getting silent majority. By the way, if anyone

01:43:37.659 --> 01:43:39.460
that's out there like, Oh, he's not doing that,

01:43:39.479 --> 01:43:41.659
that there's a fucking video of him saying, if

01:43:41.659 --> 01:43:43.460
there's a way for him to get a third term or

01:43:43.460 --> 01:43:45.680
a fourth term, he would do it. And look what

01:43:45.680 --> 01:43:50.649
we have. So here you go. That's a dictator. Pulling

01:43:50.649 --> 01:43:52.409
the strings because Biden's constantly going,

01:43:52.569 --> 01:43:54.909
they won't let me do that. They won't let me

01:43:54.909 --> 01:43:57.050
say that. They won't let me take questions. Who's

01:43:57.050 --> 01:44:00.449
they, motherfucker? Right. Jill? Is Jill they?

01:44:02.149 --> 01:44:06.409
Miss Biden? She seems to have left him. She seems

01:44:06.409 --> 01:44:08.789
to no longer be carrying Mrs. Biden. She just

01:44:08.789 --> 01:44:10.789
walks past him right now, lets him kind of stumble

01:44:10.789 --> 01:44:14.390
by. She's not taking his sweet care as she once

01:44:14.390 --> 01:44:16.310
was once he was the leader. Oh, he just doesn't

01:44:16.310 --> 01:44:19.420
have the power he did. Right, right. It's really

01:44:19.420 --> 01:44:22.500
insane. Well, gracious audience, please go out

01:44:22.500 --> 01:44:24.319
there. Silent majority, please go out there in

01:44:24.319 --> 01:44:26.840
November and do your civil duty and go out there

01:44:26.840 --> 01:44:30.619
and vote, vote, vote, vote, vote, vote per candidate,

01:44:30.800 --> 01:44:34.000
not per party. Vote for who has your best interest

01:44:34.000 --> 01:44:36.779
in mind. Vote for who has the America's who wants

01:44:36.779 --> 01:44:38.880
to make America healthy again, make America great

01:44:38.880 --> 01:44:42.380
again, make America fucking better. Vote for

01:44:42.380 --> 01:44:44.239
that person. I'm not saying who that is, but

01:44:44.239 --> 01:44:48.100
vote for that person. Thank you guys. Peace.

01:44:48.600 --> 01:44:52.800
all over the world peace in the middle east