The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 061 - Alan Roth

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Preparing. Setting it up. And we are live. What

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up? What up? Show. Howdy ever already got a show

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61 bro 61. Holy shit. Oh my god Getting up to

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our 69 Should we tell the audience why we're

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here a little bit early today We have yeah, mr.

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Gracey is going in for we briefly mentioned it

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last week. But mr. Gracey is going in for surgery

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this Friday today is a preemptive Thing where

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they go over the pre surgery appointment. Yes

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Yes. Sorry. So yeah, they can only do it this

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day at this time. So I got to knock out a little

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early. So we started a little early. Exactly.

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But we didn't want to take time away from our

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esteemed guest, Mr. Alan Roth, who was a good

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friend of mine and amazing promoter and owner

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of very cool places in Miami. Boom shakalaka.

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Yeah. Mr. Gracey is a warrior coming here on

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the day he's got to go in for this. So send good,

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good vibes and prayers and all that jazz, whatever,

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whatever you pray to out there. Friday is the

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surgery. Yeah, man. So we all got you, man. We'll

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be all here sending out good vibes, wishing those

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bees a happy return to their real nervous, except

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for what kind of pain I'm going to have afterwards.

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Yeah, that reminds me I need to get frozen peas.

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Yes. Yes. We got to write this down. Frozen peas

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on your bees. Right. If you can't remember, remember

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that little rhyme. Frozen peas. People may ask

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why frozen peas because they mold to your surfaces.

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Yeah, it's the best form of... It's the best

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ice pack. Frozen peas. That is correct. I like

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those ones that used to get from the nurse's

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office in school. Those are pretty cool too.

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True. True. I want to watch them. You want to

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what? I wonder if they ever watched those. They

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were like a cloth thing that the nurses back

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then. Fuck. No, they didn't wash shit. Hell no.

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We were we were real men and women back then.

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We didn't give a shit. Drink out of the hose

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outside. They're like, I'm thirsty. Exactly.

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Yeah. So did you see Rogan posted on Twitter

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that he's still trying to get Kamala to come

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on? Yeah, she got to come on. She ain't coming

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on. This is fucking hilarious, dude. Well, first

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of all. Google is completely centering the Trump

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Rogan interview. You can't, if you Google it,

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you cannot find it. It's like very, very way

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down. If you go in the filters and find most

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watch 35 million views, it's there, but you can't

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find it. Is that not an election interference?

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Google? Yeah, it is. Hello? Hello? And yeah,

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it's fucking crazy. That's by design, Jay. That's

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not just the algorithm doing that. 100%. Yeah.

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The algo gives you like the most watch and what

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people are checking out. So this is definitely

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by design. Oh There is no doubt So there is no

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doubt and then and as far as kamala going on

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Not happening Ah, I love it. I love how their

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sides like he'd like he ducks interviews and

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is afraid of the baiters They say all this shit.

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She can't even go on cnn with a softball interview

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from fucking anderson cooper and handle that

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You think she's going to go on and get drilled

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by Rogan? Fuck, no. And he even said, like, all

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he wants to do is have a conversation with her,

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have her, you know, just actually be herself

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and get her thoughts out there, you know, actually

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put out herself, which is what he does with every

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guest that goes on the show. Ain't gonna happen.

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No, because that should be a scary thought to

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her if we're actually going to find out where

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her... loyalties laws. This is what happens with

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gaslighters and narcissists. You don't get to

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find out who they really are because they don't

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want you to know. Right. And I mean, she goes

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on softball interviews and fucking just ain't

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no sucks. Yeah. Well, Trump's got awful, man.

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Trump said the funniest thing about her is like,

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I don't think Kamala come in here should be laying

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on the floor if you talk to her over there. Yeah.

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She's a low IQ person. Yeah, she is. I think.

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Wouldn't I wouldn't doubt that I Will and the

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by the way the McDonald's the whole McDonald's

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thing gets keeps getting funnier, you know Trump

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did the McDonald's thing cuz she said she worked

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at McDonald's and then the left produced a picture

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of her at in a McDonald's uniform Which is fake

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because they found the original with a different

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girl that her face was superimposed on come on

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I'm serious 100 % Wow, you know, you don't see

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this on mainstream media on CNN because they're

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not gonna fucking show you this But dude hilarious

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hilarious hilarious, but that's the thing Chad

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like that's what I'm saying Like are these people

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not realizing that we're in the digital age and

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when you do shit like that we can that's how

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they operate as if you don't I mean if these

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mainstream media They still operate like you

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don't have the internet. You can't go fucking

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look up shit. It's hilarious And I guess they

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don't care even if you do look it up because

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then they'll bury it in the news cycle They won't

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report on it And then throw out their blurbs.

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Oh, it's fake. And you have these fucking idiots

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on mainstream media calling, you know, likening

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the Trump rally at Madison Square Garden to the

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Nazi rally in 1939 or wherever the fuck it was.

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I mean, seriously, what is wrong with you people?

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Right. By the way, you're defending the party

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that was the party of slavery, that was the party

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of the Ku Klux Klan, that and Nazism is a far

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left ideology. Leftists. Right. Thank you. Bye.

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Idiots. Stop it. You're just looking stupid at

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this point. And you're cheapening the whole Nazi

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thing. Those are the worst fucking people to

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ever live. Hitler is the worst person to ever

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live. You're calling Trump, Hitler, and Nazi.

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It's ridiculous. Just stop. You look dumb at

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this point. Because the only people that you're

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talking to are idiots that believe you and are

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going to vote for Kamala anyway. You're not going

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to sway anybody. On the other side who's already

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gonna vote for Trump to convince them that he

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is a Nazi. He was in office for four years Right

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Did he do Nazi shit? That's what and they constantly

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say that he's a fascist. He's a Nazi By by what

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measure right? Give me a fucking definition.

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Tell me something he's done that makes him a

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Nazi, right? You can't Like even like nothing

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that he's saying at rallies, nothing that he's

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done in office, nothing, nothing, nothing ties

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him to Nazism. Matter of fact, the far opposite

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of that, like he wants to actually protect our

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democracy from fucking fashion on the left and

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all that jazz. So it's like it was crazy to.

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Flip the script and call him what you guys are

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basically doing well exactly and and it's coming

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from the top down It's Biden. It's Kamala. It's

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not just the mainstream media and her and her

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people under it's fucking the Her and Biden are

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saying the same shit. It's like um Right, you

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are a selected candidate motherfucker. How the

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fuck can you sit there and say he's authoritarian?

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He's a fascist. You were selected. No one voted

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for you, right? One person voted for you You

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didn't win a primary. You did shit in the primary.

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You actually participated and no one wanted you,

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right? And now you're calling everyone a fascist

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and a Nazi and a dictator What how do you think

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dictators get installed exactly the way you were

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selected? Well put I mean isn't that like the

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real thing? Yeah, isn't that the real threat

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to the democracy chat? Is that she didn't win

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a primary and was just installed and selected

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and nobody voted her in like That is absolutely

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the real threat. She was selected. You have a

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party that is actively sending out all their

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subordinates and talking about how the First

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Amendment gets in the way of their agendas and

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what they want to do. I mean, it's just wild,

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dude. It's fucking wild. It is so crazy, man.

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And they want to tell us, we're the immoral ones.

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We're the fucking Nazis. We're the fascists.

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We just want freedom. So does Trump. Sorry. We

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actually voted for him. Right. Sorry. You voted

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for no one. Even if you're a lifelong Democrat

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Chad, how were you okay with like that? You didn't

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select this candidate and it's forced down your

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throat and now you got to be blue No matter who

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like how I was thinking about that. You're either

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stupid or You're complicit. Which one do you

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want to be right? Yeah implicit in your party's

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destruction and the destruction of the country

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or you're just well I guess there's a third area

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where you're just not even paying attention Can

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you're stupid Can you be in that in that middle

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category to where you're not paying attention?

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Because I feel like if you're online, I think

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some people are. Yeah. Who knows? Maybe maybe

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those are the people that don't know what a computer

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is. Maybe that's right. Oh, that's right. Yes.

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Yes. According to double Governor Hokel in New

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York, black people in in the inner city in New

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York City can't they all know what a computer

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is. So maybe they just don't know what's going

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on. Right. Yeah, because that would be the only

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way I could see you really not kind of. Being

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able to see what's going on right now and what

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the hell they're doing and and you know you being

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okay with all this Because it's just crazy Like

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same party that same party that doesn't want

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you to have id to vote wanted you to have a vaccine

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card to get in a restaurant and eat or to work

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Yeah Maybe people want that maybe people want

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that socialistic approach. There's there's definitely

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a fucking Undercurrent of people in this country

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that would rather have that so they don't have

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to fucking worry about anything or take any goddamn

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personal responsibility for anything Absolutely,

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right? Absolutely They would love that to be

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told what to fucking do every day Did you upgrade

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your phone Chad it came out last night Apple

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intelligence is here. Oh, no, I have not Yeah,

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so you gotta you gotta update that your phone

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and then you got to go on and join the waitlist

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I did all that. Um, I gotta join a waitlist too.

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What the fuck is this? Yeah, but uh, it I don't

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even care. I'll just wait till it's out not out

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to be on a fucking waitlist I don't give a shit.

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Well, it was it was a quick thing. So you update

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you join the waitlist and minutes later. I was

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approved. So I got this phone because it's you

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know, I had the 12 and I just there was nothing

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wrong with it, right and we had an upgrade and

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And I got got this new phone and it's cool. I

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don't know that's leagues and leagues better

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than my 12, but okay Yeah, well, that's the deal.

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I mean the cameras better the processing is better

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So I mean if you're just using your phone for

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everyday things you probably get away with the

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iPhone 12 And you won't even realize the difference

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now, but you're you like a power user And do

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an editing our user. Yeah. Yeah, that's a thing

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dude power bottom power user Okay, but if you

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are a power user and you're you know, the cameras

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on these things are crazy, dude If you get in

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we need to be a photographer to know how to use

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the settings on these fucking cameras now It's

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crazy. That is pretty wild. I'll give you that

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for sure. Yeah insane So it's like you almost

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got to take a course on how to how to use everything

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But if you do know how to use it, man, you could

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take some crispy ass photos, some crispy as videos.

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It's amazing what in your pocket can be done

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nowadays. You basically have a computer in your

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pocket, a fucking videographer machine, a camera,

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you know, I'm saying like you could take still

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photos, you could take professional videos, you

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could do editing on like pretty much like the

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big boys do. And it's all these fucking things

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now, right? Yeah. They have there's movies being

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shot on them. There's commercials like this was

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shot in the iPhone and you can't tell the difference

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It looks like a Hollywood production, right?

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Which that's definitely amazing So it levels

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the playing field for the little people or a

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little ish people you still got to have some

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loot to get an iPhone Which but yeah, but it's

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just crazy. Yeah, I wish for all this shit. They

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should make them America toe factories here Supported

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Trump guess Tim Cook Talked to him and they were

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gonna open some factories here, but I don't know

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Yeah, I mean good luck with that. I mean supposedly

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the next iPhone 17 is not gonna be made in China

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It's gonna be made in India. But yeah, they're

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shifting away from China China's you know, their

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manufacturers leaving I'll be as slowly but you

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know, I mean You got to listen to Peter's a an

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is there their demographic fucking problem is

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not going away No, it's not going to end. Well

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And the way that there's no way to fix it. No

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and the way that they treat their people I mean

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like yeah It's we kind of let them get by for

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for a while of bringing the manufacturing there

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from the United States and stuff So we can get

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cheap products, but I think people are starting

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to be like fuck man. This is bad. It's basically

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slaves Oh for sure. Yeah people work at Foxconn

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They got nets around the perimeter of the upper

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floor so that people can't jump off and fucking

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kill themselves Like what you're like what? Now

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what was their point beyond that like so in other

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words if you work there is that it like that's

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it You just work there you can't quit so these

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people are like trying to kill themselves to

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get out of working because it's that miserable

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They're like that's fucking forced labor man.

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Okay, you're probably getting rations and not

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anywhere near what you should so I guess right

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wise to it now they're gonna move it other places,

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but You know Bring the manufacturing back here.

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Well, they're yeah exactly You should move back

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to america and people, you know, some people

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would pay more for a phone made in america, right?

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I mean on your fucking plan. Anyway, so the phone's

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1200 or 2000. What the fuck who cares exactly?

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Exactly And you can feel better about using your

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phone and like, you know, okay i'm not contributing

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to this Horribleness out there. Yeah, it's fucking

00:14:18.570 --> 00:14:20.769
chinese dictator motherfuckers trying to take

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trying to Destroy america. Yeah Yeah, and we

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were kind of sitting by idly allowing it to happen.

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And then I guess COVID was to wake up like, oh,

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shit, we can't even get medicine when shit hits

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the fan or we can't get this when shit hits the

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fan. Like, as we're going through our lives,

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you don't realize, you know, it's nice getting

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stuff cheap, but it's also it'd be nice if, you

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know, the world shuts down that you could actually

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make it here and get it because otherwise. Oh,

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for sure. Absolutely. All right. But it is 1

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p .m. We're going to bring in our guest, Mr.

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Alan Roth. Let's see how we do here. Alan is

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a good friend of Chad's businessman out in Miami.

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Alan, if you want to start your video, start

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your microphone, my man. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

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There he is. There I am looking fresh, dude.

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I should take my glasses off so I look cooler.

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Oh, yeah. You look cool with your glasses on.

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You gotta hear all your tats and everything.

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Come on. I got my tats. You see all my tats?

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Let's go. What's up, boys? How we doing? I'm

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Alan. Nice to meet you. Everyone, Alan Roth.

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This is John. Say hi, John. John, hello. I'm

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Chad. Hi, Alan. Wonderland. Can you guys hear

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me okay? Yes, sir. Yeah. All right, good. Well,

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my mom says hello, Alan. Oh, that's very sweet

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of her. Nice. Well, Barclay says hello to you.

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Oh, I'll tell her I said hi. He was excited to

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hear that I was doing this. Oh, cool. Yeah. How's

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she doing? She's great. She hasn't been working

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for nine months. Oh, eight months. The company

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shut down her, her department and but she's been

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getting she's getting paid though. So that's

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pretty happy. She's got four more. Four months

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left. Oh, Yeah, it's fun. She's having a very

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good time. She's out on a walk right now with

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her best friend. A little walkie walk. She's

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pretty happy, that's for sure. We just got back

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from two weeks in Japan, which was quite fascinating

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and inspiring. It was really special. I don't

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know if either of you have ever been there, but

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it was great. I've not been to Japan yet. I want

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to go. We never... Like the band never did much

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in Japan, so we never went over there, unfortunately.

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But yeah, I mean, Alan has traveled extensively.

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He's done some crazy travels, like you went to

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Everest Base Camp and all kinds of stuff. Yeah,

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I did a two -week trek up to Base Camp. Actually,

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our group went right. We go a little path one

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morning. We get to Base Camp and then we sleep.

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And then you have the option if you want to spend...

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It's like a four or five hour trek going past

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base camp. And it's crazy. Yeah, it was an amazing

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experience. And you're at about 50 % oxygen.

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Right. Yeah, it's pretty wild. Did you take a

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little time to acclimatize before you went to

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base camp? So you go pretty slow. It's about

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a two week, about a 10 day process where you

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go up and then you come down a little bit. You

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go back up more. Right. um we we had about out

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of it was a group of about eight people and uh

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out of about eight you had three drop out maybe

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it was nine and you had about three drop out

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um a stop or two before we got the base camp

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uh oh well it's just you know it's it's pretty

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intense as you get past like you know 14 then

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you're at 15 and 16 and you know what base camp

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uh base camp base camp is at about 18 and change

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and So I got up I was up we were they say we

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were up to about About about 19 five Yeah, it's

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pretty fucking sick When you go about base camp

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is that is that camp one that you go to? Yes,

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correct. And did you have to go through the Khumbu

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icefall? Did you have to do that? Or is that

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okay? No, that's between one and two then right?

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Yeah, okay. Yeah When the whole thing went down

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in 96 on the mountain, I read that book by John

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Krakauer when he was there. I never have done

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it obviously, but I learned all about the climbing

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Everest and what it takes. The truth is, I'm

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totally against even attempting to do the summit

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stuff. I think it's all ego -driven. It's too

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much. I'm just not for it. I mean, forget the

00:19:08.490 --> 00:19:11.710
idea of the risk that you take for yourself,

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but then the people that you're asking to guide

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you. And the real truth is that there's so many

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beautiful places that you can go that are at,

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you know, 18, 19, 20, if you really... that are

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much easier to access if you really truly want

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to summit and feel like you're on top of this

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mountain that are that are safe you know that

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you're not or i don't say safe but relatively

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speaking yeah you know so it's um but anyway

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so what goes on with these podcasts tell me what's

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happening we just do this we fucking how did

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this come about because like like you know i'm

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gonna share this people are gonna see it here

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what tell me i mean just in brief i'm sure you

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don't want to talk about that too much that's

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all right Tell me how this happened and what's

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the goal and give me a little info. John, you

00:20:01.009 --> 00:20:03.589
tell him. Who are you, John? Who are you, John?

00:20:03.710 --> 00:20:06.210
I know this guy. Who are you? I am a comedian

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podcast. So I had a podcast way back in the day.

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I want to start one a while ago. And I was doing

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basically pre tape shows, interviewing people,

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learning about people just kind of exploring

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their. passions and stuff and kind of using their

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creative side and all that jazz and had Mr. Gracie

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on we had done two podcasts together on the second

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one there was like chemistry there and I wanted

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to do this live show with the co -host and thought

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who better than Mr. Gracie to try this out with

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and sprung the idea on we tried it out and then

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now we're our tagline was putting the shit in

00:20:46.519 --> 00:20:49.829
bullshit but it's evolved into, uh, you know,

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this live show where we have guests on kind of

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learn about them and stuff, but also, uh, putting

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out, uh, real shit and like just not letting

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the fake narratives go out there and calling

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out some of the stuff on the left and the right.

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And we got a little political here and all that

00:21:06.029 --> 00:21:08.630
jazz, but it's, it's to have fun. It's to learn

00:21:08.630 --> 00:21:11.650
about people coming on, uh, fans of Chad's to

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come on and, uh, really just, you know, kinda

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question authority and not just take everything

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that is told to us because we realize that that's

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not the right thing to do and more people need

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to start questioning authority. Yeah, that's

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awesome. Well, congrats. And how do you, I assume

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you track by how well it's doing by the amount

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of subscribers or, you know, that's typically

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how it works, right? Yeah. Subscribers, viewers,

00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:42.579
yeah. Yep. Go by subscribers. And it's growing.

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Things are going well. Growing yes, so the video

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portion does well the audio portion is picking

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up So we usually put out the audio portion of

00:21:51.309 --> 00:21:55.309
this a couple weeks after this airs But yeah,

00:21:55.329 --> 00:21:58.809
so I mean this goes live on rumble Twitter twitch

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and Facebook and Yeah, the numbers grow every

00:22:02.150 --> 00:22:04.230
week. The audience is very engaging which is

00:22:04.230 --> 00:22:07.650
cool Coming on the journey with us We do have

00:22:07.650 --> 00:22:09.609
a couple other things planned to kind of do some

00:22:09.609 --> 00:22:12.029
of these live shows in front of an audience and

00:22:12.029 --> 00:22:14.779
all that stuff And really to get cool people

00:22:14.779 --> 00:22:16.740
like you on here figure out what you what you're

00:22:16.740 --> 00:22:20.720
doing what you got going on in Miami. Yeah We

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got to tell we got to say real quick though John

00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:25.920
John's a was a big live fan and he has a great

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story when we were at the Starland ballroom one

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year and He was there with his mom and his girlfriend

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Right. Yeah, so the show's over he gets separated

00:22:37.059 --> 00:22:39.880
He figures out somehow that they're in the how

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did you know they're in the dressing room? Yeah,

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so the show ends and I'm there with my younger

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brother and turn around my mother and girlfriend

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at the time are gone and people are piling out

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and I realize they made it backstage and they're

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up there partying with the band. So, you know,

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I'm kind of stuck there with my younger brother.

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I'm young at the time, dude. So don't don't think

00:23:01.750 --> 00:23:04.509
of this scenario as how I would react nowadays.

00:23:04.670 --> 00:23:08.250
I just want to. So realize that I'd be pissed

00:23:08.250 --> 00:23:12.329
too. Yeah, exactly. So realize up there. So I

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go to security guard, let him know what's going

00:23:13.930 --> 00:23:16.670
on. Girlfriend and mother up there. I got my

00:23:16.670 --> 00:23:19.089
younger brother need to go. Can we go up there?

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See if they're there. He lets us go up. So now

00:23:21.849 --> 00:23:23.589
thoughts are racing through my brain. I'm like,

00:23:23.690 --> 00:23:26.849
what is my girlfriend doing with this band? So

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I go up to this awesome backstage area where

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everybody's getting along, meeting the band,

00:23:33.009 --> 00:23:34.670
chilling, having drinks, eating and stuff like

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that. And I completely where the F is my girlfriend

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and my mother and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

00:23:40.619 --> 00:23:43.799
just completely cause the scene, ruin the vibe.

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And then they were doing nothing. They were being

00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:50.619
innocent, just having a good time. Yeah. Yeah,

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but they were in the closet with PD getting high.

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I was just getting to that. They were in the

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closet with PD burning it up. Of course they

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were. Of course. Alan knows PD very well, so

00:24:00.700 --> 00:24:03.539
he gets that. and I see he's wearing a Wonderland

00:24:03.539 --> 00:24:06.380
shirt so that means is that the uh yeah that's

00:24:06.380 --> 00:24:10.400
like the bong store or whatever no no it's like

00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:13.299
uh Wonderland was the the the the bong store

00:24:13.299 --> 00:24:16.039
you're talking about the one in in philly yes

00:24:16.039 --> 00:24:18.819
there's that was kind of a coincidence and crazy

00:24:18.819 --> 00:24:22.400
because one of my best friends that was owned

00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:24.279
I don't think he has it anymore I think it went

00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:28.500
down when COVID happened but when um uh when

00:24:28.500 --> 00:24:32.119
she uh my it was it is one of my best friends

00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:35.400
his her father this was his store but different

00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:37.480
wonderland this was a strip club actually in

00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:42.200
Miami that is no longer that's right that's right

00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:45.420
we were very rock and roll back in the day yeah

00:24:45.420 --> 00:24:50.039
but me me not so much this guy but oh yeah not

00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:53.039
me what are you talking about but um you know

00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:54.759
the truth is this shirt happens to be i happen

00:24:54.759 --> 00:24:57.200
to still be wearing it because They made great

00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:03.099
shirts. I love comfortable shirts. Amazing. I've

00:25:03.099 --> 00:25:05.220
saved it and I still wear it. But but it's funny

00:25:05.220 --> 00:25:07.259
that you know the bomb store because that was

00:25:07.259 --> 00:25:10.180
owned by my friend Melissa. Her father owned

00:25:10.180 --> 00:25:12.759
that for many years and she used to tell me it

00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:16.579
was sort of a famous spy. It was met or was is.

00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:19.460
I think there's still a couple around as far

00:25:19.460 --> 00:25:22.220
as I know. I'm not 100 percent sure. Maybe. Yeah.

00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:27.410
But yeah. Small world, that means. Yes, exactly.

00:25:27.630 --> 00:25:31.009
It's all connected, for sure. Alan, you said

00:25:31.009 --> 00:25:32.450
something cool that I wanted to just bring you

00:25:32.450 --> 00:25:34.710
back to. What were you doing in Japan for two

00:25:34.710 --> 00:25:38.930
weeks, man? Took my wife, the two of us went.

00:25:40.390 --> 00:25:43.869
And it's a place I've always wanted to go. I

00:25:43.869 --> 00:25:47.329
mean, I've done some Asia. I spent three months

00:25:47.329 --> 00:25:51.269
in Thailand once. Barkley, my wife and I, we

00:25:51.269 --> 00:25:55.839
went to Vietnam together. a few other spots and

00:25:55.839 --> 00:25:58.839
I've always wanted to go to Japan. I'm in the

00:25:58.839 --> 00:26:03.359
hospitality business. For me, I was kind of eager

00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:08.740
to see some of the restaurants and bars and how

00:26:08.740 --> 00:26:13.500
they run and how those work. I barely touched

00:26:13.500 --> 00:26:17.180
the surface. You go to a place like Tokyo and

00:26:17.180 --> 00:26:19.200
there's like 37 million people, whatever the

00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:22.440
number is, and it's overwhelming. I mean, the

00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:26.279
truth is. It's a fascinating place. We both said

00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:31.460
that we would, without a doubt, go back. Amazing

00:26:31.460 --> 00:26:36.819
hospitality, the people. It's just, the one word

00:26:36.819 --> 00:26:41.180
I keep using is respect. It's really, truly,

00:26:41.420 --> 00:26:46.819
it's a respectful sort of community. And you,

00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:50.259
like walking the streets, there's no dirt anywhere.

00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:54.019
If you have one little piece of something on

00:26:54.019 --> 00:26:55.779
the ground on a sidewalk or a street, it's a

00:26:55.779 --> 00:26:59.299
surprise. It's like, see any homeless people.

00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:04.619
I learned today from a guy, actually in the music

00:27:04.619 --> 00:27:08.519
business, he manages DJs. He told me that there

00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:12.299
is an area where they have a bunch of the homeless

00:27:12.299 --> 00:27:15.579
and they have their tents, but even there, like

00:27:15.579 --> 00:27:18.559
their shoes are left outside their tent and everything's

00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:21.579
clean. And it's like, You know, he told me about

00:27:21.579 --> 00:27:26.319
it, but everything, you know, you're in Tokyo

00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:28.680
and you're in an area that's like, I'm sure you've

00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:31.059
seen like the Shibuya crossing where everybody

00:27:31.059 --> 00:27:34.660
crosses at the same time. It's like the one,

00:27:35.019 --> 00:27:37.720
it's the most crossed street in the world. But

00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:40.809
even in that moment, When the light goes green

00:27:40.809 --> 00:27:43.210
and everybody goes, there's like no noise. It's

00:27:43.210 --> 00:27:46.069
like everybody's just like walking quietly. Where

00:27:46.069 --> 00:27:48.210
do you get that? You know, everybody in my America,

00:27:48.490 --> 00:27:51.849
my area is like so fucking loud. And yeah, it's

00:27:51.849 --> 00:27:53.650
the louder you are, the better. It's like, you

00:27:53.650 --> 00:27:57.829
know, it's crazy. So is that like is that like

00:27:57.829 --> 00:28:02.890
their people are like scared to be like kind

00:28:02.890 --> 00:28:05.190
of loud and stuff like that? Like, is this a

00:28:05.190 --> 00:28:09.200
societal probably look? There was a period of

00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:12.380
time where I pointed out to my lady, I was like,

00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:14.240
you know, we really haven't seen many police.

00:28:15.220 --> 00:28:19.940
But I think it's probably a combination of the

00:28:19.940 --> 00:28:22.579
parents, the tradition, like distilling, this

00:28:22.579 --> 00:28:25.119
is the way we are. This is how we live our life.

00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:30.240
I would have to assume also that the police probably,

00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:34.109
the government is probably a bit tight. on certain

00:28:34.109 --> 00:28:36.509
rules, you know, nobody's smoking pot anywhere.

00:28:36.609 --> 00:28:40.309
There's no weed anywhere. Yeah. I mean, I've

00:28:40.309 --> 00:28:42.609
traveled all over the world and once in a while

00:28:42.609 --> 00:28:45.230
you'll smell something, you know, even in a place

00:28:45.230 --> 00:28:49.849
that doesn't really allow it. Not one smell anywhere.

00:28:49.890 --> 00:28:52.650
And I talked to people about it and they just

00:28:52.650 --> 00:28:55.950
said it's just it's not around. No one does it.

00:28:56.029 --> 00:28:58.509
You know, just just because the government really

00:28:58.509 --> 00:29:01.589
comes down on anybody that does. So interesting.

00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.900
Well, you know, you see you see you'll see some

00:29:04.900 --> 00:29:08.759
people smoking cigarettes still not as much which

00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:13.279
is which is good But you know people are drinking

00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:22.140
that's that's that's still happening Crazy crazy

00:29:22.140 --> 00:29:24.339
and they're eating some crazy live shit that

00:29:24.339 --> 00:29:29.579
when I Yeah, yeah stick to that. Well, I lady

00:29:29.579 --> 00:29:32.519
ate some like It's they they do these like these

00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:35.519
octopus where they they cut them up and they're

00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:38.380
still moving, right? Like it's moving. It's on

00:29:38.380 --> 00:29:41.319
the plane boy. Like, oh boy, you know, and they're

00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:43.480
eating them like it's fucking candy. And I'm

00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:46.019
like, I didn't do it. I have a lot of respect.

00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:50.140
Yeah, I don't know about still moving. I'm pretty

00:29:50.140 --> 00:29:51.759
adventurous eater, but I don't know about still

00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:54.759
moving. Yeah, I'm not an adventurous eater, man.

00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:57.039
I see stuff like that. I'm like, no, I got to

00:29:57.039 --> 00:30:02.119
go. Yeah, I have my limits also. So we met in

00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:06.900
the 90s, right? 94, 95, somewhere in there? So

00:30:06.900 --> 00:30:12.460
we met... The first time I probably met the guys,

00:30:12.779 --> 00:30:16.460
I was living in New York. It was a very brief

00:30:16.460 --> 00:30:21.500
moment. That's right. So they're Live's original

00:30:21.500 --> 00:30:24.559
manager. You had two guys that were sort of co

00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:26.519
-managing, but one of them was a guy by the name

00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:29.279
of Peter Friedman. who lived in the city, had

00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:33.900
an office in the city. And I had a friend connect

00:30:33.900 --> 00:30:36.259
me with him, because I had just moved to New

00:30:36.259 --> 00:30:40.279
York City, and I was working for a record label.

00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:44.140
But we were working on a project that was, so

00:30:44.140 --> 00:30:47.400
Tommy Boy Records was the main kind of hip hop

00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:49.940
dance label that existed. But Tom Silverman,

00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:54.319
the owner of the label, opened, started a new

00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:59.609
age label. So we did an album with Deepak Chopra,

00:30:59.930 --> 00:31:03.329
and it was called A Gift of Love. And it was

00:31:03.329 --> 00:31:09.230
a spoken word album that the goal was we were

00:31:09.230 --> 00:31:13.509
going to go out and get artists or political

00:31:13.509 --> 00:31:16.930
people or celebrities, actors that were sort

00:31:16.930 --> 00:31:21.470
of spiritual. And we were going to get them to

00:31:21.470 --> 00:31:24.529
work with Deepak and recite poetry for the album.

00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:28.279
And a friend of mine, I was an assistant. I was

00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:30.559
a little peon. I was an assistant living in New

00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.660
York City. But we put together a list of about

00:31:33.660 --> 00:31:38.059
30 people that we wanted to go after. And Ed

00:31:38.059 --> 00:31:41.660
Kowalczyk was on that list. And I don't know

00:31:41.660 --> 00:31:44.420
if I honestly, if I cold called Peter or if somebody

00:31:44.420 --> 00:31:47.299
put me in touch with him, but I went to his office

00:31:47.299 --> 00:31:54.240
and we sort of just hit it off. He was rock and

00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:56.990
roll. Um, yeah, I was sitting there and smoking

00:31:56.990 --> 00:32:00.930
a cigarette. Yeah. Going to the bathroom, doing

00:32:00.930 --> 00:32:03.569
some lines, you know, good. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

00:32:03.609 --> 00:32:06.230
he was rock and roll and I don't know, we hit

00:32:06.230 --> 00:32:09.990
it off. Um, and then we just gave me, I think

00:32:09.990 --> 00:32:12.390
he, he was sort of fascinated with me because

00:32:12.390 --> 00:32:15.089
I just moved from Miami, from South beach, Miami

00:32:15.089 --> 00:32:17.549
beach, and he really wanted to buy a place in

00:32:17.549 --> 00:32:20.329
Miami. And we exchanged information and we became

00:32:20.329 --> 00:32:24.769
buddies and, um, The live guys were in town for

00:32:24.769 --> 00:32:27.910
a show and he invited me and I went. Honestly,

00:32:28.269 --> 00:32:30.849
I probably met all of you guys for 30 seconds,

00:32:30.869 --> 00:32:33.950
but I was 21 years old and they didn't care about

00:32:33.950 --> 00:32:39.549
me either. But that was around, it was actually,

00:32:39.750 --> 00:32:45.029
it wasn't 94 because you guys had, your big album

00:32:45.029 --> 00:32:47.789
was 94, right? That was 94. It came out in 94,

00:32:47.970 --> 00:32:52.900
yeah. So that was, it was 95 then, I think around

00:32:52.900 --> 00:32:58.119
that time. Maybe even closer to the 96 time.

00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:00.640
Which show did you come to, do you remember?

00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:04.680
Fuck. I would have to remember the name of the

00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:07.680
place. Was it an amphitheater or a theater? I'm

00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:09.720
just curious where we were playing. If you said

00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:11.700
some of the names of the places that are there,

00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:14.400
it's kind of funny, not Wonderland, but something

00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:16.400
like land or something, does that mean anything?

00:33:16.819 --> 00:33:20.529
Jones Beach? No, it was in the city, Jones Beach.

00:33:20.890 --> 00:33:25.529
Uh -huh. Roseland? There's a Roseland there,

00:33:25.710 --> 00:33:29.269
yeah. I don't know, I don't know. I was just

00:33:29.269 --> 00:33:31.490
curious if you remember. Yeah. It was just, it

00:33:31.490 --> 00:33:34.089
was not a big, big place, I'll tell you that.

00:33:34.230 --> 00:33:37.009
It was, I mean, it wasn't small. It was, it was

00:33:37.009 --> 00:33:40.089
like probably a couple thousand people, you know,

00:33:40.109 --> 00:33:45.069
but... So I don't, maybe it could have been a

00:33:45.069 --> 00:33:47.289
private event or something too. Maybe, I don't

00:33:47.289 --> 00:33:49.910
know, but either way he invited me and I went

00:33:49.910 --> 00:33:52.690
and briefly met the guys. But what really, when

00:33:52.690 --> 00:33:57.210
I really connected with the boys and Patrick

00:33:57.210 --> 00:34:00.750
Dahlheimer decided to, he wanted to spend some

00:34:00.750 --> 00:34:07.170
time in Miami and he came down here and we went

00:34:07.170 --> 00:34:10.480
out. and we partied like fucking rocks, literally

00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:13.559
like rock stars, like true rock stars. He was

00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:15.960
good for that. Yeah, he was good for that. And

00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:19.920
he was just dating or starting to be with Jackie.

00:34:20.340 --> 00:34:22.900
Oh yeah. And I had a girlfriend at the time and

00:34:22.900 --> 00:34:25.880
the four of us went out and we caused trouble

00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:31.219
and we bonded right away. And then I became,

00:34:31.539 --> 00:34:35.139
and then time went by and Gracie and I became

00:34:35.139 --> 00:34:39.510
close. I probably, I would have to say like out

00:34:39.510 --> 00:34:43.469
of all of the boys, the only one I never really

00:34:43.469 --> 00:34:46.769
became overly close with was probably Taylor.

00:34:48.090 --> 00:34:51.630
Not for any bad reason, just for Eddie to come

00:34:51.630 --> 00:34:55.329
down here some and record and with Tom Lordalgie,

00:34:55.389 --> 00:34:59.050
so I spent a bunch of time with him. And then

00:34:59.050 --> 00:35:02.510
Gracie and I became very, I remember, I tell

00:35:02.510 --> 00:35:04.610
this story all the time though, it's a Gracie

00:35:04.610 --> 00:35:10.710
story. We really just bonded right away. Like

00:35:10.710 --> 00:35:13.909
the one time it was quiet, dinner, Miami, whatever

00:35:13.909 --> 00:35:16.849
it was, we became friends. And I started dating

00:35:16.849 --> 00:35:22.650
this girl. Her name was Amanda. And we're about

00:35:22.650 --> 00:35:26.070
three months in, and Amanda and I are like fucking

00:35:26.070 --> 00:35:29.510
fighting crazy. I'm talking to Gracie, and he

00:35:29.510 --> 00:35:33.190
goes, listen. He goes, I'm no specialist with

00:35:33.190 --> 00:35:36.079
relationships. But I will tell you, if you're

00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:38.800
fighting like this three months in, it's not

00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:41.659
a good sign. And I'll never forget that. And

00:35:41.659 --> 00:35:43.940
I always say that to my friends. In the first

00:35:43.940 --> 00:35:46.679
six months, if you're having problems, it's a

00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:48.500
problem. It's a problem. Yeah, that's a problem.

00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:53.480
Very true. Good advice to give a young man. I

00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:55.679
don't know if you remember that. You remember

00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:57.639
that, Chris? I remember that, yeah. I remember.

00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:01.099
I know because I remember you were like, you're

00:36:01.099 --> 00:36:05.369
fighting with her all the time. Go forward. Well,

00:36:05.489 --> 00:36:07.070
it's not going to get better. Yeah, it's only

00:36:07.070 --> 00:36:09.809
going to get worse. Exactly. So Alan, did you

00:36:09.809 --> 00:36:13.630
end up getting Ed to record for that Deepak Chopra

00:36:13.630 --> 00:36:18.230
thing? No, we didn't. He didn't do it. Well,

00:36:18.230 --> 00:36:21.190
I don't I don't remember exactly why, but he

00:36:21.190 --> 00:36:24.090
didn't do it. Gotcha. It seemed like I would

00:36:24.090 --> 00:36:25.730
have been right up his alley at the time, too.

00:36:25.849 --> 00:36:27.789
Yeah, especially at the time. I think that was

00:36:27.789 --> 00:36:30.650
my suggestion, too. I mean, out of all of the

00:36:30.650 --> 00:36:32.960
people that we had on the list. I think that

00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:35.480
there were probably about a handful of people

00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.920
I suggested. But you could still find it online.

00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:42.760
I mean, it sold pretty well for a spoken word

00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:47.159
type album. It wasn't the coolest sort of music

00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:53.440
genre that existed. Can't be as bad as Yoko Ono.

00:36:53.559 --> 00:37:01.539
You ever hear her musical? She was also a DJ

00:37:01.539 --> 00:37:05.699
too. Really? Yeah, she did. She did for a while.

00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.519
Also, they, she, she, she spun in Miami a couple

00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:12.780
of times and seems a little stiff to be a DJ.

00:37:13.059 --> 00:37:16.500
Like there's, but maybe, I don't know, but that's

00:37:16.500 --> 00:37:19.300
a cool job. She's like eight years old now or

00:37:19.300 --> 00:37:21.840
something like that. Yeah. She just got to be

00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:24.340
up there. So you did the record company thing

00:37:24.340 --> 00:37:26.980
and then what you moved back to Miami. How did

00:37:26.980 --> 00:37:30.880
you get in the hospitality and like, So I'll

00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:33.239
give you a little sort of my background. So I

00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:38.340
really was sort of initially the first cafe to

00:37:38.340 --> 00:37:41.579
open on Ocean Drive in Miami, the famous Ocean

00:37:41.579 --> 00:37:45.880
Drive, was a place called the News Cafe. And

00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:48.300
a guy that I was very close with, he was a family

00:37:48.300 --> 00:37:50.500
friend, he put up some of the money for the News

00:37:50.500 --> 00:37:54.260
Cafe. for whatever reason and he was in the hospitality

00:37:54.260 --> 00:37:57.059
business also but for whatever reason I was sort

00:37:57.059 --> 00:38:01.079
of intrigued by the hospitality business and

00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:03.579
he introduced me to the guys that were opening

00:38:03.579 --> 00:38:07.480
this place this cafe and I was like I want to

00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:09.960
work here I mean I was 13 years old literally

00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:15.159
it was 1988 and I ended up I was the first cashier

00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:18.980
there it opened in the summer And I decided to

00:38:18.980 --> 00:38:20.860
work. I wanted to work. I don't even know why

00:38:20.860 --> 00:38:22.659
I wanted to work. I mean, who wants to work at

00:38:22.659 --> 00:38:26.199
13 years old? I wanted to work. I'd ride my bike

00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:28.940
there. It was like a 10 minute ride and I'd ride

00:38:28.940 --> 00:38:31.400
my bike there and lock up my bike and I'd work.

00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:33.440
And I was, and I loved it. And I think I loved

00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:37.099
it because just like feeling a part of this new

00:38:37.099 --> 00:38:41.019
experience that was happening and the staff loved

00:38:41.019 --> 00:38:43.539
me. I mean, I was like the young guy, you know,

00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:45.789
there was a... And I had never been around any

00:38:45.789 --> 00:38:48.510
gay men. Gay men loved me. They thought I was

00:38:48.510 --> 00:38:50.849
cute and they were nice to me. The girls would

00:38:50.849 --> 00:38:52.769
flirt with me. I don't know. I was just like,

00:38:52.829 --> 00:38:56.530
this fucking thing is cool. I didn't even know

00:38:56.530 --> 00:38:59.170
who Johnny Versace was, but he used to come in

00:38:59.170 --> 00:39:02.070
there. Years later, I understood what that meant

00:39:02.070 --> 00:39:07.610
and who he was. But it was an interesting moment

00:39:07.610 --> 00:39:12.550
in time for South Florida. So a couple of years

00:39:12.550 --> 00:39:16.000
after that, another place open on Ocean Drive.

00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:19.900
It's actually still open called Mango's, which

00:39:19.900 --> 00:39:24.099
is like a sort of Cuban dance tropical place.

00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:29.539
And a family friend again owned that place. The

00:39:29.539 --> 00:39:33.139
building was on Ocean Drive. He had it as an

00:39:33.139 --> 00:39:36.099
old age home. And he decided to convert the whole

00:39:36.099 --> 00:39:42.840
thing into this bar club outdoor place. God bless

00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:46.320
him. He plays probably just 20 million a year

00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:50.260
still. Wow. This was in the transition from South

00:39:50.260 --> 00:39:53.400
Beach being fucking dead, how it's starting to

00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:57.460
come back. That's right. When I was a kid, my

00:39:57.460 --> 00:40:03.559
parents and I would drive down Ocean Drive. Let's

00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:07.780
say up until about the 88 to 90, prior to that

00:40:07.780 --> 00:40:10.539
moment, all that you would see on Ocean Drive,

00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:14.079
was all old people. That was it. There were old

00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:17.340
people sitting there, reading their papers, playing

00:40:17.340 --> 00:40:21.340
shuffleboard, playing cards. I mean, honestly,

00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:24.300
a place where people came to die. That's the

00:40:24.300 --> 00:40:26.219
real deal to live out the rest of their life

00:40:26.219 --> 00:40:30.599
and get some sun and sit by the ocean. And there

00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:33.699
was nothing else anywhere. There wasn't much

00:40:33.699 --> 00:40:36.599
going on anywhere else in Miami either. You'd

00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.699
have a cool restaurant somewhere and... Coconut

00:40:39.699 --> 00:40:44.099
Grove or downtown, but there was no sort of party

00:40:44.099 --> 00:40:48.980
epicenter of Miami. It didn't exist. And there

00:40:48.980 --> 00:40:51.099
were a couple of places in South Beach, and it

00:40:51.099 --> 00:40:53.000
wasn't even called South Beach actually, until

00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:57.199
between that 88 to 90 time where some woman who

00:40:57.199 --> 00:40:59.320
worked with the city coined it South Beach and

00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:03.760
it stuck and they started using it. And essentially

00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:08.809
that was from First Street till about 15th Street,

00:41:09.090 --> 00:41:11.210
which was considered the South Beach area till

00:41:11.210 --> 00:41:17.309
about Lincoln Road. And I, I just kind of fell

00:41:17.309 --> 00:41:20.369
in love with the business. There was a when I

00:41:20.369 --> 00:41:24.349
was in high school, there was a guy who I looked

00:41:24.349 --> 00:41:28.590
up to and I thought he was the man. He was this

00:41:28.590 --> 00:41:31.929
like, tall, handsome kind of supermodel looking

00:41:31.929 --> 00:41:34.789
guy. And he was in the bar business and he had

00:41:34.789 --> 00:41:39.670
a place called the spot. And when I was in my

00:41:39.670 --> 00:41:44.690
junior and senior year, I became friendly with

00:41:44.690 --> 00:41:47.130
him. I mean, not good friends, but I'd see him

00:41:47.130 --> 00:41:49.329
at... Actually, it was at the Fountain Blue Hotel.

00:41:49.429 --> 00:41:51.909
The famous Fountain Blue had a gym, and I would

00:41:51.909 --> 00:41:53.769
go there, I would work out there, and he would

00:41:53.769 --> 00:41:56.670
work out there. And I used to, like, kind of

00:41:56.670 --> 00:41:59.989
harass him about coming to his place. And he

00:41:59.989 --> 00:42:01.869
would never let me go, though. That's the truth.

00:42:02.090 --> 00:42:04.750
I was, you know, I was 16 years old. He's like,

00:42:04.769 --> 00:42:07.780
you're not coming to my place. When I graduated

00:42:07.780 --> 00:42:12.239
high school, I finally said, look, I'm out of

00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:13.699
high school. Can I come? He goes, all right,

00:42:13.820 --> 00:42:16.360
bring a couple girls who can come. So I did.

00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:19.780
I brought a couple girls. He let us in. And for

00:42:19.780 --> 00:42:21.639
me, it was one of the greatest nights of my life.

00:42:22.300 --> 00:42:24.559
They had the ropes. I mean, it was like Studio

00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:27.539
54. It was like, if you got past those ropes,

00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:31.780
it was like heaven. So I didn't go to college.

00:42:32.530 --> 00:42:37.010
And I went to a summer program up in Tallahassee

00:42:37.010 --> 00:42:40.710
at FSU and I realized that it wasn't for me.

00:42:40.829 --> 00:42:44.230
Came back to Miami and my parents said to me,

00:42:44.449 --> 00:42:47.210
I said to them, I don't want to go to college.

00:42:47.690 --> 00:42:49.369
They said, you're either going to college and

00:42:49.369 --> 00:42:51.849
you can live here at the house or you got to

00:42:51.849 --> 00:42:55.869
move out. And I had like $400 in my pocket and

00:42:55.869 --> 00:43:03.230
I was like, peace, I'm out. And I did. You know,

00:43:03.610 --> 00:43:07.989
good idea or not, I guess it was a good idea

00:43:07.989 --> 00:43:14.269
now. I started working my ass off. I got a job

00:43:14.269 --> 00:43:18.530
as a server at a restaurant that was in town.

00:43:18.630 --> 00:43:21.530
I ended up promoting a party once a week. I became

00:43:21.530 --> 00:43:25.489
a promoter, a club promoter, which at the time

00:43:25.489 --> 00:43:27.750
didn't really exist. You didn't call someone

00:43:27.750 --> 00:43:30.739
a promoter. The only, the reference for promoter

00:43:30.739 --> 00:43:34.900
would be just a concert promoter. I ended up

00:43:34.900 --> 00:43:40.219
reading Bill Graham presents book. And at that

00:43:40.219 --> 00:43:42.380
time I was like, fuck, that's what I want to

00:43:42.380 --> 00:43:45.980
do. And I thought that I wanted to be a concert

00:43:45.980 --> 00:43:51.500
promoter, which then led me to, I got an internship

00:43:51.500 --> 00:43:57.239
for one of the leading concert promoters in South

00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:00.840
Florida. And I went a couple days a week and

00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:03.260
I'd work for him. I mean, it wasn't totally free.

00:44:03.380 --> 00:44:05.159
He'd give me like five bucks an hour, four bucks

00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:08.239
an hour, whatever it was. But I was just there

00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:11.159
to like learn. I mean, I really, I thought that

00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:14.059
this was my schooling. I learned what Polestar

00:44:14.059 --> 00:44:16.000
magazine was. And I would sit there and read

00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:19.039
Polestar every week. And you know, I didn't know

00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:21.420
what Billboard was before that. And I started

00:44:21.420 --> 00:44:26.119
reading all this stuff. And so I was doing, I

00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:28.860
basically was working all the time. Um, the,

00:44:28.900 --> 00:44:30.880
you know, the real truth, I was doing everything

00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:33.440
I could do and, but the promoting things sort

00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:36.260
of started making me pretty good money. I was,

00:44:36.500 --> 00:44:40.159
I was, um, as I was 18 years old and I was making

00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:44.199
about a thousand dollars cash a week from one

00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:49.059
party a week. So I was, you know, I was 18. I'd

00:44:49.059 --> 00:44:50.860
make a thousand dollars, about a thousand a week

00:44:50.860 --> 00:44:53.320
from this party. I'd work three nights a week,

00:44:53.579 --> 00:44:56.679
making two, 300 a night as a server, you know?

00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:59.679
So here's a guy who's 18 years old making, you

00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:02.659
know, 50 to a hundred grand. And most of that

00:45:02.659 --> 00:45:08.260
was cash, the truth. So now this was, you know,

00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:13.239
almost 31, 32 years ago. And, you know, and then

00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:16.860
I... Little by little, I started meeting more

00:45:16.860 --> 00:45:21.860
people. And I got it. I'll never forget this.

00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:26.679
But I met a guy who was at who was with EMI Records.

00:45:26.900 --> 00:45:30.900
Oh, wow. EMI Capital. And he basically said,

00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:33.420
we started talking and he said, you come to New

00:45:33.420 --> 00:45:36.860
York, you're going to be my assistant. And I

00:45:36.860 --> 00:45:39.760
was like, I'm down. I love this. Let's do it.

00:45:39.820 --> 00:45:42.619
So I tell my family, I'm going to New York. I'm

00:45:42.619 --> 00:45:45.360
moving to New York. And, you know, I ended up,

00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:47.519
I had an apartment. I sold what I had. I sold

00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:51.980
my car and I had some cash and I go to New York

00:45:51.980 --> 00:45:55.519
and I get there and I check in with him. Hey,

00:45:55.820 --> 00:45:58.239
and I know his name. His first name is Peter.

00:45:58.380 --> 00:46:00.039
His last name is, I don't even know where the

00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:02.880
guy is now, but Peter Napoleon or something like

00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:07.579
that. Peter Napoleon. And he was a big shot executive

00:46:07.579 --> 00:46:10.219
there and I get first I get there and he's like

00:46:10.219 --> 00:46:13.260
oh amazing come by the office I go by the office

00:46:13.260 --> 00:46:15.900
I say hi to him I'm excited you know all right

00:46:15.900 --> 00:46:20.500
call me Monday call him Monday never hear from

00:46:20.500 --> 00:46:25.159
him call him Tuesday I never hear from him I

00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:28.420
call him 15 20 times I never hear from the guy

00:46:28.420 --> 00:46:32.519
again he ices me wow Crazy. I moved to New York,

00:46:32.659 --> 00:46:35.300
sold all my shit, moved to New York, never hear

00:46:35.300 --> 00:46:42.139
from the guy again. So I basically, I had some

00:46:42.139 --> 00:46:45.579
of those Pulse Star magazines, those books from

00:46:45.579 --> 00:46:48.820
when I worked at the record company. And I would

00:46:48.820 --> 00:46:51.300
have like a year left over that they weren't

00:46:51.300 --> 00:46:55.079
using anymore. So I went and I wrote a cover

00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:58.940
letter, I put together a resume, and I went to

00:46:58.940 --> 00:47:04.300
like... like Kinko's, and I faxed my resume with

00:47:04.300 --> 00:47:09.440
cover letter to about 30 record label people.

00:47:11.179 --> 00:47:14.219
And one of the record label people called me

00:47:14.219 --> 00:47:16.519
and said, come on in, we'd love to meet you.

00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:19.599
And I was like, fuck, yes, amazing. So I go.

00:47:19.869 --> 00:47:23.429
I met with uh Tom Silverman who at the time you

00:47:23.429 --> 00:47:25.909
know he was at the time he was the man he had

00:47:25.909 --> 00:47:28.949
you know De La Soul and House of Pain and Coolio

00:47:28.949 --> 00:47:31.510
and Queen Latifah and whatever a bunch of these

00:47:31.510 --> 00:47:34.690
dance tracks and but he was like he married a

00:47:34.690 --> 00:47:37.090
um an Indian woman and they were getting into

00:47:37.090 --> 00:47:40.769
sort of the New Age label thing and at the time

00:47:40.769 --> 00:47:44.900
if you remember remember like Enya yeah Okay.

00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:46.599
Oh yeah. And there were a bunch of others that

00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:48.639
like had sort of just come onto market and were

00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:50.679
doing really well. And it was like a new movement.

00:47:52.260 --> 00:47:55.159
And he's like, look, it's not what Tommy boy,

00:47:55.179 --> 00:47:57.659
but you can be here. We need an assistant and

00:47:57.659 --> 00:48:00.519
it's $21 ,000 a year and that's the pay. And

00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:04.260
I was like, whatever it is, I'll take it. Big

00:48:04.260 --> 00:48:08.019
pay for you. Look, and you're in New York City.

00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:11.699
You're not, you can't live on $21 ,000. It may

00:48:11.699 --> 00:48:17.599
have been $22 ,000. maybe 1948 right exactly

00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:22.559
so I I did it I started working for at the time

00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:26.739
his name was Josh Baron and he was running the

00:48:26.739 --> 00:48:32.039
label the new age label and so I I got a server

00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:36.440
position I actually am I'm almost embarrassed

00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:39.760
to say but I don't care I'm a confident man but

00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:44.679
he was a It was a gay bar, a gay lounge bar that

00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:47.320
was opening, and it was the only place I could

00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:51.460
find a job. And I was, and I was a server there.

00:48:52.780 --> 00:48:55.719
I have crazy stories, though. I was going to

00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:57.760
say, I'm sure you made good tips. I was going

00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:00.219
to say, it's a great place. They probably loved

00:49:00.219 --> 00:49:03.000
you, yeah. But crazy thing, I mean, I guess my

00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:05.920
wife probably knows this story. So day two of

00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:09.760
this bar. Now, truth be told, You know, I don't

00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:12.300
know how many gay nightclubs or bars you guys

00:49:12.300 --> 00:49:13.880
have been to, but there's always like one or

00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:15.780
two, three girls that are in there with all her

00:49:15.780 --> 00:49:21.139
gay friends. Well, I'm taking care of a table.

00:49:21.380 --> 00:49:23.400
It's like four girls and one guy, I mean, sorry,

00:49:23.539 --> 00:49:27.099
four guys and one girl. And I start talking to

00:49:27.099 --> 00:49:29.320
her and she's, I tell her, I'm like, yeah, like

00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:31.260
I'm actually straight. And she's like, come on.

00:49:31.300 --> 00:49:33.599
I was like, serious. And about an hour later,

00:49:33.599 --> 00:49:37.769
I'm getting a fucking blow job from her. in the

00:49:37.769 --> 00:49:42.050
storage room. Wait, wait, the story gets better.

00:49:42.269 --> 00:49:46.110
Wait, wait. So the owner walks downstairs to

00:49:46.110 --> 00:49:48.730
get some champagne or whatever, and he sees me.

00:49:48.829 --> 00:49:51.730
I don't even know that he sees me. Like, I think

00:49:51.730 --> 00:49:54.190
I have this great thing cleared. We go back up.

00:49:54.670 --> 00:49:57.469
So at the end of the day, he goes, well, I want

00:49:57.469 --> 00:50:01.920
to make an announcement. The first person to

00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:04.059
get laid in this but get a blowjob or get laid

00:50:04.059 --> 00:50:06.960
whatever he said in this in our in our gay bar

00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:11.300
Was from it was a straight boy. Ah Like Alan,

00:50:11.300 --> 00:50:19.480
congratulations No idea how this guy knew but

00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:24.380
For about a year I worked at the record label

00:50:24.380 --> 00:50:28.559
and and then I worked for a management company

00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:32.559
a music management company that had most had

00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:35.679
all reggae artists so we had Shaggy and Third

00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:39.960
World and Maxi Priest and we had one R &B singer

00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:42.800
out of London who had a big hit at the time so

00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:47.480
it was kind of fun guy by the name of Mark Morrison

00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:51.880
and he had that song Return of the Mac still

00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:55.199
gets played you know, all the time. But anyway,

00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:57.420
that was it. And then after about two years,

00:50:57.579 --> 00:50:59.480
I decided I was done and I didn't want to do

00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:02.119
it anymore. I didn't like the cold winter was

00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:06.579
coming and I moved back to Miami. And I honestly

00:51:06.579 --> 00:51:11.400
started just Promoting parties at first and after

00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:13.760
a couple of years of promoting parties and I

00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:16.019
was I was building sort of my audience again

00:51:16.019 --> 00:51:20.460
and my awareness and my knowledge I decided to

00:51:20.460 --> 00:51:24.039
open my first place and I had one investor that

00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:29.260
was out of Mexico and And it was a I hired a

00:51:29.260 --> 00:51:31.820
designer out of New York and it was a it was

00:51:31.820 --> 00:51:34.960
a seven thousand square foot space two story

00:51:35.539 --> 00:51:38.980
and it was a restaurant lounge and it was called

00:51:38.980 --> 00:51:43.820
Rumi, R -U -M -I. And the idea actually, it all

00:51:43.820 --> 00:51:46.440
goes back actually to this New Age label I worked

00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:50.000
with because the album with Deepak Chopra was

00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:54.000
all Rumi poetry. So I didn't even know who Rumi

00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:59.840
was until 96, 95, whatever it was, 96. I didn't

00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:02.619
know until you opened that place. Right. Right.

00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:05.139
Most people didn't know the truth. Most people

00:52:05.139 --> 00:52:09.400
don't know. But really, Rumi, even at that moment

00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:13.519
and even to this day, is probably still the most

00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:19.099
widely purchased poetry books that are across

00:52:19.099 --> 00:52:23.079
the board of any poet. But they're all translations

00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:28.420
that different poets sort of translate what they

00:52:28.420 --> 00:52:32.119
think the writings and poetry is. But it was

00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:37.500
all based off of Rumi poetry and spontaneous

00:52:37.500 --> 00:52:40.440
performance. And so that's where Live came in

00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:45.260
also, because I asked Peter, I said, you got

00:52:45.260 --> 00:52:47.579
to do me a favor. Let's get the guys. Let's do

00:52:47.579 --> 00:52:51.179
an unannounced acoustic performance. Nice. We

00:52:51.179 --> 00:52:54.570
did. And that was our sort of official grand

00:52:54.570 --> 00:52:56.170
opening. We didn't tell anybody who was going

00:52:56.170 --> 00:53:01.610
to perform. And this was in the year 2000. And

00:53:01.610 --> 00:53:05.010
the boys come up. I was freshly single. What's

00:53:05.010 --> 00:53:07.690
that? I was freshly single that year. Freshly

00:53:07.690 --> 00:53:12.730
single, yes. After losing money. Well, you know,

00:53:12.969 --> 00:53:16.230
you got to give up some money there. But hey,

00:53:16.389 --> 00:53:19.869
Broomie was great for me. Rumi was, oh, Rumi

00:53:19.869 --> 00:53:21.889
was great for you actually. I know you had a

00:53:21.889 --> 00:53:25.010
couple stories you could tell out there. Yes.

00:53:26.309 --> 00:53:29.969
So we perform with, what's in a... Oh, the next

00:53:29.969 --> 00:53:32.769
time you did, they did, so a year later, when

00:53:32.769 --> 00:53:34.969
they were doing another tour, they were coming

00:53:34.969 --> 00:53:38.170
through Miami and we set up another little acoustic

00:53:38.170 --> 00:53:41.250
gig and Vince Neil. That's right, Vince Neil,

00:53:41.429 --> 00:53:43.269
yes. Remember that? We had to, we literally,

00:53:44.110 --> 00:53:46.800
he's on the second floor, he's passed out. We're

00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:49.340
like, wake up, wake up. And he takes here, here's

00:53:49.340 --> 00:53:53.699
some tequila. He takes up tequila, gets up and

00:53:53.699 --> 00:53:58.619
belts out some songs with the boys. So yeah.

00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:02.719
So the rest was kind of history from there. I

00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:09.019
had kind of another 12 years of bars, restaurants,

00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:12.519
beach clubs. I had an event marketing company.

00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:18.550
And then I middle of 2012, I stopped working

00:54:18.550 --> 00:54:22.230
and decided I didn't want to do it anymore. And

00:54:22.230 --> 00:54:25.769
started really traveling like Gracie mentioned,

00:54:27.349 --> 00:54:33.010
and just started going. And then about three

00:54:33.010 --> 00:54:35.210
and a half years ago, I sort of had that same

00:54:35.210 --> 00:54:38.670
epiphany that I had in 2012, but it was the opposite.

00:54:39.389 --> 00:54:44.489
And Miami was during COVID. and was on fire.

00:54:44.630 --> 00:54:46.750
Everybody was moving to Miami. Everybody was

00:54:46.750 --> 00:54:51.309
talking about Miami. And I called a friend of

00:54:51.309 --> 00:54:53.789
mine who has a fantastic company out of Fort

00:54:53.789 --> 00:54:57.070
Lauderdale that he has 10 restaurants, bars,

00:54:57.590 --> 00:54:59.449
nightclub, not nightclub, but 10 restaurants

00:54:59.449 --> 00:55:01.730
and bars in Fort Lauderdale. And I said, if I

00:55:01.730 --> 00:55:03.550
want to open something in Miami, you want to

00:55:03.550 --> 00:55:06.809
team up? And he's like, I would love to. So since

00:55:06.809 --> 00:55:10.409
then, February 1st will be three years. We have

00:55:10.409 --> 00:55:15.110
a rooftop bar called Rosa Sky. Nice. Awesome.

00:55:15.389 --> 00:55:20.230
Great 200 person capacity. The view is fantastic

00:55:20.230 --> 00:55:23.969
of all of downtown and Brickle. February will

00:55:23.969 --> 00:55:27.170
be three years and it's just gone like this.

00:55:27.610 --> 00:55:30.349
It's on top of what hotel? It's on top of an

00:55:30.349 --> 00:55:32.369
AC Marriott. AC Marriott, that's right. Yeah.

00:55:32.469 --> 00:55:34.710
But what's great for us is that we have our own

00:55:34.710 --> 00:55:36.449
entrance, our own elevator. We don't have to

00:55:36.449 --> 00:55:39.460
go through the hotel. Sweet. So that's called

00:55:39.460 --> 00:55:42.920
Rosa Sky Rooftop. And then a year after that,

00:55:43.380 --> 00:55:48.980
we opened a restaurant bar called Giselle. And

00:55:48.980 --> 00:55:51.599
that's been open February 1st, will be two years

00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:55.920
for that one. And that's on the roof of the most

00:55:55.920 --> 00:56:00.099
successful nightclub in America, which is called

00:56:00.099 --> 00:56:04.079
Eleven. They call it an ultra club, but at the

00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:06.480
end of the day, really, it's a strip club. a

00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:09.780
nightclub and sort of a performing arts space

00:56:09.780 --> 00:56:12.119
and but it's like no other place that exists

00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:14.519
in the world to be honest that's very interesting

00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:17.519
it's quite fascinating so i went to visit alan

00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:20.960
i got to go to all three places bang it yes and

00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:23.539
it was great and there yeah rosa sky and giselle

00:56:23.539 --> 00:56:27.960
beautiful places and amazing staff amazing drinks

00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:31.019
and the atmosphere is freaking awesome so and

00:56:31.019 --> 00:56:33.500
then 11 yeah 11 was wild that was that was wild

00:56:33.500 --> 00:56:35.920
so you have you Have you been to have you come

00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:37.880
down? Do you come down here at all or brother

00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:42.400
or no? Me, John? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm trying to

00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:45.039
think last time was in Florida, probably about

00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:48.199
five years ago. But I'll be coming down within

00:56:48.199 --> 00:56:50.679
a month or two. My sister's moving to Port Lucy,

00:56:50.900 --> 00:56:54.199
I believe is the town. Yeah, quite down right

00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:56.559
down here. But yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of

00:56:56.559 --> 00:57:00.619
more of a middle ish southern on the East Coast

00:57:00.619 --> 00:57:03.940
side. But yeah, we got to go. We got to go down

00:57:03.940 --> 00:57:06.099
sometime. John, sorry. I don't know why I said

00:57:06.099 --> 00:57:08.400
Robert. What's this? What's the, I'm hearing

00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:11.739
it says good times. What's Robert Hayes? What's

00:57:11.739 --> 00:57:15.199
that? That's our producer guy. Oh, okay. Got

00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:17.920
it. Sorry. It's Bobby. We call him Bobby. Bobby.

00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:20.460
Okay. My bad. My bad. Sorry. That's all right.

00:57:20.460 --> 00:57:23.139
It's John. No, all good, dude. Unfortunately,

00:57:23.139 --> 00:57:25.579
I got about three minutes left. I got to do my

00:57:25.579 --> 00:57:29.199
pre -surgery appointment today. Surgery? What's

00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:32.179
going on with you? Oh, I got a little... You

00:57:32.179 --> 00:57:34.280
know, I had the second me a few years back, and

00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:36.300
sometimes a side effect can be something called

00:57:36.300 --> 00:57:38.119
spermata seals, which is basically like a cyst

00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:41.760
that grows on your epididymis testicle, basically.

00:57:42.260 --> 00:57:44.519
And mine have gotten pretty big. So I'm getting

00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:48.599
removed. Got it. To a woman, Alan, we didn't

00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:51.840
want to get my nuts removed. That's not no, not

00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:53.940
my nuts, just the spermata seals. Yeah. Thank

00:57:53.940 --> 00:57:56.440
you. But Alan, the way we do this is we only

00:57:56.440 --> 00:57:58.440
touch the surface what you do. We got a lot more

00:57:58.440 --> 00:58:00.440
to get with you. But again, we're on a time crunch.

00:58:00.500 --> 00:58:02.239
So we're going to have you on again in the future,

00:58:02.699 --> 00:58:05.539
dude. It's down. It's been fun. Absolutely. I'm

00:58:05.539 --> 00:58:07.920
sorry. I had to cut this one short, man, because

00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:10.840
I know it's OK that I get at least to get to

00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:13.380
know you and say hello and Gracie. See you. And

00:58:13.380 --> 00:58:15.639
absolutely. It's great to see your audience real

00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:18.099
quick before we before you go. Did you decide

00:58:18.099 --> 00:58:20.119
to do both of those places at the same time or

00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:22.570
did you? decided to do Rosa Sky first and then

00:58:22.570 --> 00:58:25.869
Giselle or how did that go down? So for sure,

00:58:26.150 --> 00:58:29.449
Rosa Sky happened first and a couple of the owners

00:58:29.449 --> 00:58:34.070
of Eleven, I've known them for many years and

00:58:34.070 --> 00:58:39.690
when I announced the Rosa Sky that it was coming

00:58:39.690 --> 00:58:42.489
and it was going to happen, I started talking,

00:58:42.750 --> 00:58:45.730
I ran into one of the owners basically and do

00:58:45.730 --> 00:58:48.289
you remember my friend David Simpkins? Yep, I

00:58:48.289 --> 00:58:51.320
remember him, yep. I would think so. So David's

00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:54.860
younger brother, Michael, he sort of is the partner

00:58:54.860 --> 00:58:57.400
in 11. It's a whole family, but Michael's kind

00:58:57.400 --> 00:59:00.179
of the guy who handles all the detail. I ran

00:59:00.179 --> 00:59:02.579
into Michael. I told him that I was just getting

00:59:02.579 --> 00:59:04.639
back in the business. I'm opening Rose of Sky.

00:59:05.059 --> 00:59:06.639
And he said, well, why don't you and your partner

00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:09.440
come look at the space at 11 on the roof and

00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:11.219
see if it's something you'd like to talk about.

00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:14.800
So that was it. They were talking to a bunch

00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:18.329
of restaurant groups. Honestly, we got lucky.

00:59:18.530 --> 00:59:21.349
We came up with a plan that they liked and they

00:59:21.349 --> 00:59:26.829
picked us. But there's more coming. I mean, we

00:59:26.829 --> 00:59:31.050
have Atlanta is opening a year from November,

00:59:31.210 --> 00:59:33.929
a year from next month. We're doing a rooftop

00:59:33.929 --> 00:59:37.150
in Atlanta. Cool. We're in the middle of negotiating

00:59:37.150 --> 00:59:39.670
a couple of spaces in Miami. We're looking at

00:59:39.670 --> 00:59:45.559
Tampa. Expansion, I love it. Over the next like

00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:48.340
24, 36 months, there's going to be it's either

00:59:48.340 --> 00:59:52.500
going to go like this or all come crashing down.

00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:55.380
But but I think I feel good about it. So, yeah,

00:59:55.420 --> 00:59:58.840
rock on. Awesome. Going like positive vibes.

00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:01.519
That's that's. that's right again i'm really

01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:04.219
sorry i got cut to short let's have alan back

01:00:04.219 --> 01:00:06.320
on really soon here because i want to i want

01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:08.880
to do more stories and learn about the new place

01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:11.500
we didn't tell any stories i mean i know for

01:00:11.500 --> 01:00:13.880
the record i'm probably the only guy to ever

01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:16.420
break dance at a live concert so that's just

01:00:16.420 --> 01:00:19.699
for the record that's right since switzerland

01:00:19.699 --> 01:00:22.019
interlocking i don't remember that shit oh shit

01:00:22.019 --> 01:00:24.699
that's a whole other story all right i'm down

01:00:24.699 --> 01:00:26.599
whatever you want you guys all right thank you

01:00:26.599 --> 01:00:29.719
alan we'll i'll get you back on soon man appreciate

01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:31.980
it sorry again for the short nice to see you

01:00:31.980 --> 01:00:34.139
love you too buddy talk soon let's talk soon

01:00:34.139 --> 01:00:38.139
put on the phone the one and only alan roth ladies

01:00:38.139 --> 01:00:42.619
and gentlemen yes yes yes uh again sorry to cut

01:00:42.619 --> 01:00:45.159
this short alan was awesome got a lot more stories

01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:48.920
to get to with him so we will uh bobby we'll

01:00:48.920 --> 01:00:50.860
get to you next week my man we again you know

01:00:50.860 --> 01:00:54.099
sorry bobby But we appreciate you guys gracious

01:00:54.099 --> 01:00:56.079
audience Chad He's got places where we could

01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:58.780
bring this live toward to so good. Absolutely

01:00:58.780 --> 01:01:03.539
for sure. Yes Please like all right, we'll see

01:01:03.539 --> 01:01:06.260
you next week. See everybody. Sorry about this.

01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:06.940
Bye. Bye