March 6, 2025

The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 075 - Theodore Gibbons

The Gracious Two, Chad Gracey & John Rotolo discuss their ages and grooming habits, including a plan to grow beards for No Shave November. They then watch a clip of a congresswoman AOC criticizing Elon Musk’s intelligence, finding it amusing and questioning her credibility. The conversation shifts to the Super Bowl halftime show, with the hosts expressing disappointment in the performance and the perceived need to explain its symbolism.

The podcast starts with a discussion about inappropriate online ads and the state of Social Security. It then shifts to Bud Light’s controversial commercial and the transgender debate, highlighting the absurdity of some societal norms. The conversation concludes with the introduction of Theodore John Gibbons, a drummer, sound therapist, P.A. and so much more who discusses his musical journey and his work in healing and sound therapy.

Sound therapy is discussed as a means to release stored emotions, both positive and negative, with the body serving as a repository for these feelings. The conversation then shifts to Teddy’s experience working as a production assistant on the TV show “Person of Interest,” highlighting the challenges of filming in New York City. Finally, the discussion turns to the exciting development of Netflix’s new production facility in Monmouth County, NJ.

Teddy recounts his experience working on a film with Tom Waits, highlighting his efforts to procure a guitar for him. He expresses a lack of star-struckness around actors but a deep admiration for musicians like Waits. The conversation then shifts to psychedelic drugs, with JRo advocating for their use as a potential deterrent to harder drug addiction.

The pod discusses the joys and challenges of working on movie and TV sets, likening it to a shared adventure with a close-knit crew. It also touches on the impact of long work hours on personal relationships and the camaraderie that forms among cast and crew members. The conversation then shifts to a humorous anecdote about the JRo’s mother and girlfriend partying with the band LiVe backstage, much to the JRo’s surprise and amusement.

JRo recounts an embarrassing incident from his youth where he interrupted a party backstage at a LiVe concert at Starland Ballroom, causing a scene and missing out on a potential good time. He expresses regret for letting his emotions get the best of him and acknowledges the missed opportunity. The podcast then shifts to music, with the guys discussing Teddy's past bands, his love for playing drums and his desire to play music again, even if it’s in a tribute band.

The guys reminisce about the active music scene in New Jersey, where Teddy played in multiple bands and JRo frequented a warehouse filled with rehearsal studios. They highlight the collaborative nature of LiVe's early albums, particularly “Samadhi,” and discuss the absence of click tracks during recording. JRo also mentions his brother’s band, “Lilies of David,” and their new single Skin & Bones available everywhere.

The podcast discusses the evolution of drumming techniques, particularly the use of click tracks and the importance of timing and feel in music. It highlights the contrast between drummers who play strictly on the beat and those who add a subtle push or pull, emphasizing how this subtlety can greatly impact the overall sound and emotion of a song. The conversation also touches on the influence of technology on music production and the importance of maintaining a natural, organic feel in drumming.

The hosts discuss the possibility of ancient Egyptian artifacts in the Grand Canyon and the existence of pyramids in China. They also mention the South African government’s controversial land reform policies and the high cost of eggs in the United States. The hosts conclude by thanking the audience and teasing upcoming guests and topics for

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And we are live. Mr Gaga racey show 75. What does

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that mean? Five damn quarter century. Yeah, man.

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quarter, quarter century, three quarters of century.

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There you go. I got my first gray ball hair now

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that I'm 75 years old. Nice have way past that.

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Yeah. Just fermenting them or taking them down.

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I just shave them off, man. Just fucking shave

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them down. Boom, shock, a lock. Keep them clean

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down there. If you ever go from shaving to not

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shaving and then once you go to shave and buzz

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it down, man, that could be an itchy situation

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for a second. If you don't keep up on it. Yes,

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it is. It can be. Yes. So the full gray of my

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beard, though, really no darkness in my beard

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anymore. But do you miss do you miss the color

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of the follicles? Not really. I never I've never

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I've never grown a beard. I mean, I let it kind

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of long, but I've never grown a fucking full

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beard because it's just I get to the point where

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I'm like, I can't take it anymore. Get it off.

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All right, dude. So next November, No Shave November,

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we're doing it. We're getting fucking two burly

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beards the whole month. We're going to grow it

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out. So ladies will only shave downstairs. Don't

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worry, that'll be taken care of. They'll be manscaped.

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Manscaped the bottom and you have hair on your

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back. I don't have hair on my back. No, no, no,

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no, no. There's like an occasional stray, but

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I'm pretty bald back there. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

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you see those guys have like fucking sweaters.

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I'm like, God, that will suck. Like where like

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I've seen werewolves do like bald heads and fucking

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full on furry. It's like shaved around here and

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it just goes. Yeah. I'm like, what an awful trick

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the Lord has pulled on you. Yeah. You know, I

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feel like Larry David from Curb Your Enthusiasm

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is probably like that. No hair up top, but a

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full pack full of hair. So let's see. We gave

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Bobby four minutes to pull a video. Do we think

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he got to it, Mr. Gracie? I don't. I hope so.

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Bobby, if you're there, please share. It's a

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great video because, you know, it's it's one

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of the here it is. It's one of the dumbest people

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in the world calling Elon Musk stupid. I fucking

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love it. It's like what? You might not like him,

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but can you call him stupid right Jesse from

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her? Roll the tape I have encountered many billionaires

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in my career You all have seen many of those

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you waited on the the ball a lot hearings in

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Other you know forms of questioning etc. Oh,

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yeah, I can tell you that This dude is probably

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One of the most unintelligent billionaires I

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have ever met or seen. Unintelligent what? What

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are you talking about? Which, you know, you can

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probably even... Unintelligent what? Billionaires.

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Ah, can you go back? I thought she said something

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wacky. Oh, she said unintelligent billionaires.

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She's one of the most unintelligent billionaires

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she's ever seen. You could have kept going there,

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Babay. All right, he brought it back. Clean that

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from watching these people on TV. I mean, I can

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tell you that this dude is probably one of the

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most unintelligent billionaires I have ever met

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or seen or witnessed. Or blue. You know, you

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can probably even glean that from watching these

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people on TV. Oh, sure. Yeah, I can glean that

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he's really stupid. Yeah. OK. Listen, bartender,

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what the fuck have you done? Yes, literally.

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What have you done? I mean, come on. You're you're

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that stupid that you can think you can call Elon

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Musk stupid. That's just fucking so crazy to

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me. Yeah, like what are you talking about? Yeah,

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that's like basing this on. It's almost like

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saying he's not the richest person in the world.

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Yeah, it's like, but yeah, he is like choose

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something like he's ugly, something you could

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kind of write. Yeah, I don't like his politics.

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I don't like this, but to call us unintelligent

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is like. What are you talking? The guy fucking

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glans rockets from space on the fucking launch

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pads. Like, right. What are you talking about?

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He's the most socially awkward person I've ever

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met. You're getting close. Maybe he is. Right.

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It'll work. But he's on the spectrum. We all

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know that. Great. But that doesn't make him unintelligent.

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Yeah, et cetera. I like et cetera. Etc. Period.

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Et cetera. I still love that one. And how does

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a bartender that is a sitting congresswoman,

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how is she worth $30 million? Listen, I met a

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plethora of billionaires, dude, and he's on the

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fucking low end of the IQ level when it comes

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down to it. Jeff Bezos, on the other hand, is

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way smarter. You know? Right. Who else is? I'm

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trying to think Bill Gates. Definitely way smarter,

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dude. The way he wants to depopulize the world.

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That's a smart dude. Of course. Yes. Who else?

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I think Bruce Wayne, as long as we're naming

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fictional shit, we might as well bring up some

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of those guys. Yeah. Dumb Batman. Dumb. Oh, my

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God. Jesus. I just I don't know who votes for

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her. I don't know how she has a voice. It's just

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crazy to me. Like, do they have publicists? And

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if so, they should be fired because I would have

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called her. I've been like, ah, you might want

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to change that to something more tangible. Like,

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I think she's just riffing on fucking on on,

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you know, on on her channel or X or whatever

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the fuck she's on there. But yeah, just funny.

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Hmm. Wow. It's it's wild to me. It is, man. I'm

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just trying to think who is smarter on that list

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like all the billionaires she met. I'm trying

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to think if I've ever met a billionaire dude.

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I'm sure you have. I'm trying to think of specifically

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who we met, but somewhere along the line. I'm

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sure somewhere with, yeah, between live, UFD,

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fucking Bill Heinz, somewhere across. I mean,

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well, one of the, our mentor and the guy who

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helped fund initially UFD is a billionaire named

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Lou, Louis Appel. Right. Not the third, the second.

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The third is a dick. I said it. The third is

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a different kind of, yeah. a different kind of

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human. Anywho, so what did you think of the Super

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Bowl halftime show? Really, Chad, was it? I didn't

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see it. So hold on. I watched the whole thing.

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I didn't watch any of any of the Super Bowl because

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this I'm going to determine if you're going to

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be fake here and conform to society and say it

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was the most brilliant thing ever. I would never

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say that about anything. Well, then they not

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like us. They don't like us. They don't like

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us. I mean, everything is fucking triple. It's

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it's like fucking just ridiculous at this point.

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Let's let's get a different rhythm for rap now

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instead of triple. It's da da da da da da da

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da da da da da da da da da like try something

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different. Yeah, and it's also, though, when

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you have to kind of it's like a joke, though,

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if you have to explain the joke after the fact,

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like you kind of miss the mark with what you're

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trying to do, you know, even if it's a funny

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joke, but you have to like explain where it was

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like. So what the whole thing was like a fucking

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was him going after Drake. Oh, I see. So like

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there was. Nothing but black people basically

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dancing and their colors made the American flag.

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And then I saw that. And then they, you know,

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all joined together and then like they got on

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each other's backs and were kind of doing this

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like wacky thing. And supposedly that was saying

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like America was built on the backs of black

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people and all that jazz. But it just that, you

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know, is above my intellect. I'm not as smart

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as. AOC. Well, so I saw the other guy break it

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down, though. He was talking about, like, at

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the beginning, they had those the the four symbols

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on like an Xbox controller. Oh, yeah, yeah, yes.

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Plus and triangle PlayStation. Apparently, yeah,

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PlayStation, whatever. Yeah. And apparently they

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somebody figured out that they did the code that

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gives you like God mode. Oh, so he was like God

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mode there. I mean, I don't know. And then Serena

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Williams was. dancing because she she went out

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with Drake at some point. She's his ex, apparently.

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And that was like a diss to him. Hmm. The whole

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thing is supposed to be. I don't know the whole

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thing, but a lot of it was supposed to be a diss

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to Drake. I love it. Yes, I thought the because

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it is. So the the Bobby just said it to those

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the triangle. Excellent. Shit circle. Those are

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either PlayStation controls or or squid games.

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That's part of that, too. True. So who the fuck

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knows? But yeah, it was just a lot of I didn't

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think the musical performance was anything that

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great. And I didn't think like the dancing was

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anything spectacular. And it wasn't like Michael

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Jackson back in the day. It wasn't like fucking

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Timberlake and Britney Spears or Prince. Yeah,

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exactly. or even i mean even beyond like people

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were saying oh you know we we had people didn't

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like it because it's because you're racist and

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like well i didn't like Beyonce's performance

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i'm not a big Beyonce fan but at least it was

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fucking songs that you knew and fucking and visually

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looked great and she did a great job she's an

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amazing singer and dancer that was fine right

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and so it's it's funny it's society it's like

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oh you don't like something oh you're racist

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no i just don't like it like what the fuck Yeah,

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if I was racist, would I fuck a black chick?

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I don't think so. There you go. You know, and

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been there, done that. And I watch a lot of chicks,

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black chicks and porn. They're my favorite. I

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wouldn't do that if I was racist. You like the

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big ones, baby? No, never been into. Never been

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into that, man. It's amazing that there's porn

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literally for everybody, bro. Like, I just can't

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for everything. It's crazy. It's insane, bro.

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But yeah, I mean, no, never been into chubbies.

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Can't get into old ladies. Did you're getting

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ads now? Like, do you want to fuck old ladies

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around your house? It's like, no, I don't want

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to. I don't want to mess with girls. If you click

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here, you can't say no. I'm like, what the fuck

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is going on here? Do you want to fuck ugly housewives

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that, you know, fucking vote? And I'm just like,

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no, these girls sound horrible. And you're showing

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fucking granny titties. It's like the weirdest

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thing, man. It's like we have to get more and

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more fucking taboo going. Yeah, like most taboo

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shit. It's like, OK, no, I might fuck and say

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yes to one of those and just see who they give

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me. Imagine it's my grandmother. I'm like, fucking

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grandma, what are you doing on this site? You

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psycho grandma's fans. Yeah, I thought that.

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Gum job was only for me when you took out your

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false teeth you son -of -a -b. Yeah Social Security's

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not cutting it because they're giving all to

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the illegal So, you know, they got a chance to

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supplement the income Do you think Social Security

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will ever run out? Yeah, it's going to unless

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someone so something drastic's done like what's

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going on Wow, thank God. Oh, so they figured

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out so you are here Elon speaking of Social Security

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Elon figured out that what's the word that Social

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Security does not deduplicate social security

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numbers, meaning that one social security number

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can be used 10 ,000 times to get checks. Really?

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For different people. Yes. No. Yes. They figure

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that out. It's there. So there's no there's no

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system keeping track of just your social security

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number. Oh, it's like like number and birthday

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or something. It's not just the number you're

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saying. No, I'm saying that I could. Conceivably,

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my number could be used multiple times to get

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multiple checks for different people. That's

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gotta be impossible, bro. There can't be another

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person in America that has my Social Security

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number. It can't be. Get wealth on the Social

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Security system. It can be. Oh, gotcha. Oh, because

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it's like such an outdated system and antiquated

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probably. Yeah. Well, hopefully. But there's,

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there's thousands and thousands of social security

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numbers that for dead people, for instance, that

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are getting checks and they're getting cashed.

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Dude, nothing wrong with that, bro. Americans

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being Americans. That's not fuck with everybody

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here. Come on, all those motherfuckers. Just

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like we went communist when they stopped us from

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drinking and driving, bro. Don't fucking get

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crazy over there, Mr. Gracie. You got to let

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us be American somehow. I know we can't let up.

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We got to let all this fraud and waste fucking

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keep going. because yes, we got to fucking dig

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some oil holes and drink some Budweiser and go

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drive our trucks and all that goodness. Speaking

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Budweiser, Bud Light's trying to like make their

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comeback with, you know, the shit with Shane

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Gillis and that commercial is pretty funny, actually.

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But isn't that over, though? Like, didn't the

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world make a bigger deal? I mean, out of what

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it was, didn't they just make one can and send

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it to that stupid bitch? Apparently, yeah, I

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mean. obviously had a huge effect, but I mean,

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I'm all for forgiveness. Like, yeah, I don't

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I've never drank Bud Light anyway, but I'm like,

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OK, yeah, let them, you know, they're trying

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to make amends and be American again. So like,

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fuck it. Go ahead. And I feel like they it was

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like nothing even crazy. They sent one. I think

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they sent it to a bunch of creators. I guess

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the did say Woman of the Year or something on

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it. Was that them? I don't know, because they

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sent it like a can with creators on it to a bunch

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of different ones. I think it was just. Somebody

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made her woman of the year, didn't they? That

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Delvini fucking dude. Probably. It's Christ.

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Can you imagine, bro, like that you could would

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you not as a high school fucking student identify

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as a chick just so you could go into the female

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locker room? Like, of course, now you're not

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going to do it because you're older and fucking,

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you know, you have some some morals to you. But

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in high school, are you kidding me, bro? I would

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have been Joanna. And I would have been showering

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with the biggest boner you have ever seen. Well,

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maybe not the biggest one you've ever seen, but,

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you know, average one that you have ever seen.

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And then they tell the girls that it's their

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problem. They have to go to therapy because it's

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their problem. Yes. Well, I mean, that's the

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upside down world that they were trying to fucking

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continue. Thank fucking God. Thank you. You're

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welcome. By the way, sign an executive order

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banning. Paper straws bringing plastic straws

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back. Yes. Yeah Well Chad, you know what time

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it is fuck paper straws. It's time for the one

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and only guest. Mr. Theodore John Gibbons, what's

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up? Dude pleasure appreciate it Are we going

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by Theodore or Teddy? Teddy Theodore or whatever

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whatever comes out. It's fine Rock on. So Teddy

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and I kind of grew up together, went to school

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together way back in the day. And I've always

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known him as Teddy, but I saw Theodore John Gibbons.

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I'm like, I'm going full name baby. Yeah, man.

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So what's up, Teddy? You've been getting into.

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First of all, we got two drummers on the show,

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which have we done that before, Chad, besides

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that Dave Cruz and fella? Not beside Dave. Yeah.

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So we're you're in good company that we had Dave

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Cruz in the original drummer from Pearl Jam 10.

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And then, of course, Mr. Gracie, drummer from

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live and now you get the best drummer from East

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Rutherford as far as I'm concerned. Oh, thank

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you very much. Yeah, I I'm still playing. I I'm

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doing an album for an artist from Ireland named

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Stephen Bedford, and he's a killer songwriter.

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And he found me and I'm I play everything on

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his album and he's crushing it. What what type

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of music is it like heavy stuff like you were

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into back in a day or is this something kind

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of new? No, it's like Very good songs. He writes

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them on the acoustic and then we bring them to

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life I would say it's you know, it's got distortion.

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It's kind of punky but it's it's it's punky but

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but it's The songs are written. Well, they kind

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of they they don't veer off into kind of like,

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you know the land of the scene. Like it keeps

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them well crafted. I don't know if that makes

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sense, but he he's really great songwriter. Yeah,

00:17:02.009 --> 00:17:04.170
no, dude, I got that description pretty pretty

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good in my head. So hopefully the audience is

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to check. Teddy, I want to I want to play one

00:17:08.089 --> 00:17:10.049
of these for you, because these are fun videos

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for me. Tell me if you guys can see this, Chad,

00:17:12.029 --> 00:17:16.029
you'll you'll enjoy this bad boy, too. Hopefully

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it's this one. No, it's this one. There we go.

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Teddy, do you know this guy? Oh, yeah. Glad we

00:18:34.230 --> 00:18:37.029
do, Mr. Gracie. Oh, very good. Very good. Very

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good. Not too shabby. You know that that came

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about as I was tracking. I was tracking drums

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for this guy's album and I don't know. I just

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kept hearing Tina Turner in my head and I and

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I just wanted so bad to take a break and do it.

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And for me, like posting that and doing that

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is fun just as kind of like pushing the limits

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of Self -expression and like not giving a shit

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and like giving up your like your guard and doing

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like this like ridiculous thing and just letting

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it letting it out Well, you've always been really

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good at that. Like I don't think I realized when

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we were like younger younger I would say probably

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like 18 19 20 ish is around that time when I

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started to realize just how like much of a sense

00:19:23.339 --> 00:19:26.380
of humor you actually had and how funny you you

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actually are So you've always kind of had this

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like light sidedness to you and you weren't afraid

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to kind of do something silly and maybe be silly

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and have people laugh at you for that or with

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you for that. Yeah, I think I think there's something

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powerful and kind of like letting that letting

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that go and like stepping into what could be

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seen as rejection or all that, you know, the

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shaming like, you know, I don't know what you

00:19:53.700 --> 00:19:55.640
guys were talking about, kind of like society

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a little bit like society is kind of like centered

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around, like, shaming and canceling. And I think

00:20:01.150 --> 00:20:03.309
it's fun to go the other way and just be like,

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you can fucking cancel this like up and down.

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I'm still here. Yeah. Absolutely. I love that.

00:20:11.390 --> 00:20:14.130
Well, Chad's all Mr. Negative. He's we're all

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I'm like the love side of the show. He's like

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the. No, I'm kidding. Yeah. No, I'm joking. Got

00:20:22.470 --> 00:20:24.210
to throw some jokes in there every now and again.

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But Teddy, so you were getting into some cool

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stuff that I saw. I don't know if it's recent

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or even doing it for a while. And I just kind

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of caught on to it. But you do like sound therapy,

00:20:34.259 --> 00:20:37.359
healing work and stuff like that. Am I correct

00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:44.299
in that? Yeah. In my path of life, I had a huge

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chapter that centered around kind of like healing

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and getting myself back together. And it kind

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of took me all around the world. And part of

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it is I learned what can happen when I relax

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into my body and kind of give my body away. And

00:21:04.349 --> 00:21:08.369
so yeah, I do that now, kind of as a thank you.

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And I go around with gongs and bowls and shakers.

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I really learned a lot about how the fucked up

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shit that happens to us in our lives, if we don't

00:21:20.490 --> 00:21:24.299
take time to kind of... process it out it stays

00:21:24.299 --> 00:21:27.480
in our body and it manifests as like parts of

00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:30.880
our personality just wreaks havoc on like our

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ability to kind of like move freely in life and

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so I try to give people a language to go home

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and do this and try to and realize that you know

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the brain is crazy and the brain is doing its

00:21:45.180 --> 00:21:47.859
best to not make us feel certain emotions but

00:21:47.859 --> 00:21:52.829
but that kind of governor It's also keeping us

00:21:52.829 --> 00:21:56.609
kind of repressed and separate from ourselves

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too. So it's better to go in and kind of feel

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it and have proverbial barf that we all know.

00:22:02.190 --> 00:22:06.150
I mean, your emotions in your body. Yeah. Yeah.

00:22:06.309 --> 00:22:08.769
So negative and positive. The negative ones are

00:22:08.769 --> 00:22:10.509
not good to store in your body. So you got to

00:22:10.509 --> 00:22:14.049
get them out. Yeah. That's why they say you should

00:22:14.049 --> 00:22:16.549
jerk off a lot. You got to get the poison out.

00:22:16.930 --> 00:22:23.069
Yeah. So have you ever had like anybody that

00:22:23.069 --> 00:22:24.829
you were working with, like kind of have like

00:22:24.829 --> 00:22:28.630
a big release, like uncontrollably crying, laughing

00:22:28.630 --> 00:22:31.630
or some kind of emotion? I mean, I've I've done

00:22:31.630 --> 00:22:34.750
a lot of different modalities other than sound.

00:22:35.589 --> 00:22:39.450
But yeah, people people wake up, they say they

00:22:39.450 --> 00:22:43.549
went home or they talk to a relative, they got

00:22:43.549 --> 00:22:46.130
a relative that had been deceased. They got the

00:22:46.130 --> 00:22:48.710
answer. Their bodies twitch, they shake, they

00:22:48.710 --> 00:22:51.740
cry, they shiver. I mean, I mean, yeah, it's,

00:22:51.880 --> 00:22:55.440
it's, it's really, you know, you know, I know

00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:58.019
that I know that Bobby's out there. Listen, you

00:22:58.019 --> 00:23:01.900
know, I say, I'm Bobby's team. I say, you know,

00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:07.559
that when we're not distracted and stimulated,

00:23:07.740 --> 00:23:11.720
the body metabolizes this stuff. And it's really

00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:14.200
important to just kind of give space to stillness.

00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:17.079
And in yet I've had people I've seen like full

00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:23.160
on exorcisms in my life. Yeah. Wow. Chad, maybe

00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:27.240
you need that since you are so fast. Come on

00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:32.259
now. Yeah. Yeah. No, I've done some sound therapy

00:23:32.259 --> 00:23:36.740
in my in my in my day. Like I've taken like it

00:23:36.740 --> 00:23:38.900
was like a class with a couple of people in it,

00:23:39.059 --> 00:23:41.299
like a group type deal. And there was like the

00:23:41.299 --> 00:23:43.500
leader who would do all the gongs and stuff like

00:23:43.500 --> 00:23:46.789
that. You really do feel. things like that you

00:23:46.789 --> 00:23:49.349
would normally maybe take a psychedelic to feel,

00:23:49.349 --> 00:23:53.730
you know, but in a sober state. You know, like

00:23:53.730 --> 00:23:58.049
it does kind of bring feelings, even visual type

00:23:58.049 --> 00:24:02.349
of things, you know, into it, at least my experience

00:24:02.349 --> 00:24:04.849
with it. Yeah. And a lot of times, you know,

00:24:05.089 --> 00:24:08.069
as somebody's laying there, you know, the body

00:24:08.069 --> 00:24:11.950
will it's weird because the body will kind of

00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:15.180
Say like oh you got an itch on your shoulder

00:24:15.180 --> 00:24:17.380
or like check your phone or do this and do that

00:24:17.380 --> 00:24:20.779
and and what most people Need to realize is that

00:24:20.779 --> 00:24:23.559
moment if they if they can deny that voice that

00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:25.500
twitch or that like the body's like trying to

00:24:25.500 --> 00:24:27.420
get control of itself It's trying to stay in

00:24:27.420 --> 00:24:30.099
control if you can starve that that's really

00:24:30.099 --> 00:24:32.920
the the threshold right before you go out and

00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:37.400
you go into some type of deep trance is is is

00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:42.269
recognizing that that voice to Get up and fix

00:24:42.269 --> 00:24:44.890
your pillow or do this or do that or or even

00:24:44.890 --> 00:24:46.990
when you're home to check your phone That is

00:24:46.990 --> 00:24:49.849
the voice of the stored trauma trying not to

00:24:49.849 --> 00:24:52.170
be felt and it's deflecting your consciousness

00:24:52.170 --> 00:24:54.930
From looking in at the part of yourself. I mean

00:24:54.930 --> 00:24:58.549
that you know, the ultimate astringent is your

00:24:58.549 --> 00:25:01.450
consciousness when you look at the pain or whatever

00:25:01.450 --> 00:25:05.440
it is it dissolves so the barrier is like false

00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:07.980
you saying like, why don't you go for a walk?

00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:10.619
Why don't you go listen to music? Do this, take

00:25:10.619 --> 00:25:13.019
a shower, eat a cookie. But if you can starve

00:25:13.019 --> 00:25:16.180
it and be still, that's how you punch through.

00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:20.539
That's fucking deep and profound, man. And it

00:25:20.539 --> 00:25:22.519
makes a lot of sense. Like, I don't know if you're

00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:24.740
saying it in layman's terms, but it just kind

00:25:24.740 --> 00:25:28.460
of, I get what you're saying. It's trying to

00:25:28.460 --> 00:25:31.519
distract you from, you know, feeling whatever

00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:33.619
you're supposed to be feeling or whatever it

00:25:33.619 --> 00:25:35.380
doesn't want you to feel. It's like, yeah, check

00:25:35.380 --> 00:25:37.319
your phone out. That'll distract you from this

00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:41.900
or it's clever as fuck. It's clever. It's clever.

00:25:43.940 --> 00:25:48.980
Yeah, man. So, Teddy, what were you doing back

00:25:48.980 --> 00:25:51.579
in the day on Person of Interest? Because at

00:25:51.579 --> 00:25:53.839
first I thought you were working on set as like

00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:56.079
a grip or a PA, like production assistant or

00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:59.210
something. But then like I saw you in an episode.

00:25:59.529 --> 00:26:05.769
Yes. So I started I started when I was around

00:26:05.769 --> 00:26:12.349
26 working on set as a PA and I and I had no

00:26:12.349 --> 00:26:15.130
idea what I was doing and I just I got good at

00:26:15.130 --> 00:26:17.289
it because it was something that you could kind

00:26:17.289 --> 00:26:20.769
of Follow the rules but also kind of do in your

00:26:20.769 --> 00:26:23.369
original way It's kind of like kind of like being

00:26:23.369 --> 00:26:25.710
a drummer like play it like don't fuck up, but

00:26:25.710 --> 00:26:27.950
you can kind of do anything you want Yeah, it's

00:26:27.950 --> 00:26:31.130
like keep that beat right drop the ball, but

00:26:31.130 --> 00:26:35.230
like hold whatever kind of ball you want So yeah,

00:26:35.289 --> 00:26:39.369
so that show ran for five seasons and on that

00:26:39.369 --> 00:26:41.869
show that show was as notorious as being one

00:26:41.869 --> 00:26:45.490
of the hardest shows to film in New York Still

00:26:45.490 --> 00:26:48.930
to this day because of the schedule and the complexity

00:26:48.930 --> 00:26:54.650
of the shoot. It was. It was a super tight schedule

00:26:54.650 --> 00:26:58.089
company moves every day, but also every every

00:26:58.089 --> 00:27:01.369
episode had guys with guns, explosions, running

00:27:01.369 --> 00:27:03.869
through the streets, car car crashes, you know,

00:27:03.869 --> 00:27:06.930
in Manhattan. I mean, that show was the reason

00:27:06.930 --> 00:27:09.750
that a lot of rules were born in New York, I

00:27:09.750 --> 00:27:12.130
think, because a lot of the things that we were

00:27:12.130 --> 00:27:17.769
trying to do and. At the end of. Is that the

00:27:17.769 --> 00:27:20.470
whole thing where you do first and ask for forgiveness

00:27:20.470 --> 00:27:22.369
later? I don't know. You guys are going to do

00:27:22.369 --> 00:27:24.890
it. That show specifically does that. But I would

00:27:24.890 --> 00:27:27.890
be lying if I if I if I said that I haven't heard

00:27:27.890 --> 00:27:32.269
that exact sentence honored over the past decade.

00:27:33.990 --> 00:27:38.690
Yeah. So so I I I did really good as a key P

00:27:38.690 --> 00:27:40.730
.A. The key P .A. is kind of like the highest

00:27:40.730 --> 00:27:42.650
of the PAs in the way that it's kind of like

00:27:42.650 --> 00:27:46.329
the manager of all the PAs. And it really made

00:27:46.329 --> 00:27:48.569
an impact on the show and the creator of the

00:27:48.569 --> 00:27:54.170
show Jonah Nolan wanted to give me some recognition

00:27:54.170 --> 00:27:56.369
for doing a good job. So he was trying to find

00:27:56.369 --> 00:28:00.470
a spot for me to appear in an episode. I'm actually

00:28:00.470 --> 00:28:03.490
I appeared in that one episode and then I actually

00:28:03.490 --> 00:28:08.509
appeared in the in the final in the final episode

00:28:08.509 --> 00:28:14.369
to firewall. It's quick. The one I saw, you were

00:28:14.369 --> 00:28:17.329
like being chased like in an alley. It seemed

00:28:17.329 --> 00:28:21.730
like through one of those scaffolding that's

00:28:21.730 --> 00:28:24.150
down in the financial district down down South

00:28:24.150 --> 00:28:27.609
Manhattan. All those tight streets. That was.

00:28:28.990 --> 00:28:31.349
I'm like, oh, shit, there he is. How fucking

00:28:31.349 --> 00:28:36.329
cool. So are you aware that Netflix is coming

00:28:36.329 --> 00:28:42.369
to Jersey? I I I I. Do you know what town they're

00:28:42.369 --> 00:28:46.089
building that that thing in? Yeah, it's on the

00:28:46.089 --> 00:28:48.970
so it's Monmouth County. It's on the border of

00:28:48.970 --> 00:28:52.990
Eaton Town and I think Little Silver. It's and

00:28:52.990 --> 00:28:58.170
it's in the the army barracks. Yeah, it's nice

00:28:58.170 --> 00:29:00.789
to shoot in Jersey. Being from Jersey, I think

00:29:00.789 --> 00:29:06.230
I did my penance, you know, driving out to Queens

00:29:06.230 --> 00:29:09.569
every day from East Rutherford and battling the

00:29:09.569 --> 00:29:13.130
bridge. Wow. Freaking out. in traffic. I eventually

00:29:13.130 --> 00:29:14.910
moved to Brooklyn because I couldn't take it.

00:29:14.910 --> 00:29:19.230
I moved just for sleep. Oh, there you go. I lived

00:29:19.230 --> 00:29:22.309
in Williamsburg for a while, which created its

00:29:22.309 --> 00:29:27.670
own slew of adventures. I mean, Chad knows Chad

00:29:27.670 --> 00:29:30.170
knows traffic because, you know, he's a California

00:29:30.170 --> 00:29:32.289
dude, but I don't know if any like you could

00:29:32.289 --> 00:29:35.089
be. We live in East Rutherford, which is like

00:29:35.089 --> 00:29:38.849
almost like the town over from the New York City.

00:29:39.069 --> 00:29:41.769
So you could be literally a minute outside the

00:29:41.769 --> 00:29:45.210
Lincoln Tunnel and not move for three hours to

00:29:45.210 --> 00:29:47.789
get through the tunnel like it's that gridlock.

00:29:48.549 --> 00:29:51.490
New York City traffic. So fucking any L .A. traffic

00:29:51.490 --> 00:29:55.589
for sure. Yeah, yeah, it's just you guys could

00:29:55.589 --> 00:29:57.509
have it even in L .A. There's always like at

00:29:57.509 --> 00:30:01.170
all time. It's always the you know, the big freeways

00:30:01.170 --> 00:30:03.130
that are all stuffed, but you can find little

00:30:03.130 --> 00:30:05.710
back ways to go and get around shit. But in New

00:30:05.710 --> 00:30:08.309
York, everything is fucked. It's like everything

00:30:08.309 --> 00:30:11.410
is full of traffic. Where do you live now, Teddy?

00:30:11.910 --> 00:30:14.730
I went I came back to I came back to East Rutherford.

00:30:14.769 --> 00:30:18.450
OK, cool. And yeah, and I'm loving that shows

00:30:18.450 --> 00:30:20.609
are shooting in Jersey. It's that's awesome.

00:30:20.849 --> 00:30:24.529
I didn't know that. Dude, they're saying it's

00:30:24.529 --> 00:30:26.789
going to be it's the Hollywood of the East Coast.

00:30:26.930 --> 00:30:32.069
It's an 11 studio fucking huge thing that they're

00:30:32.069 --> 00:30:35.250
building right at this old army barracks. That's

00:30:35.250 --> 00:30:38.140
like it's huge, like it's literally it's. between

00:30:38.140 --> 00:30:42.180
two towns and it's fucking acres upon acres of

00:30:42.180 --> 00:30:44.579
land. And it's going to have 11 sound stages

00:30:44.579 --> 00:30:46.700
and all these different studios. And they were

00:30:46.700 --> 00:30:49.619
saying, one, the governor made it like tax incentives

00:30:49.619 --> 00:30:53.940
for it. But two, like Jersey has the landscape

00:30:53.940 --> 00:30:56.039
to kind of be filmed with everything. It has

00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:59.079
beaches, mountains, casinos. Like you can make

00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:01.900
it look like any area that you kind of want,

00:31:01.900 --> 00:31:05.279
you know, want it to. um so yeah that's pretty

00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:07.779
exciting also you know just for the productions

00:31:07.779 --> 00:31:11.779
like you know it's the footprint of a production

00:31:11.779 --> 00:31:14.160
when they go on location is huge you know like

00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:16.799
you're bringing you're bringing six seven eight

00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:21.200
nine ten full trailers with you and so to be

00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:24.480
able to kind of like have your home in jersey

00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:26.400
and if you need to go to the city for certain

00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:29.940
things you can pop in and do it but for the most

00:31:29.940 --> 00:31:38.000
part um I think I think it helps. It helps. It

00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:41.920
helps everybody with the spaciousness aspect,

00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:45.339
because, you know, trying to get permits shooting

00:31:45.339 --> 00:31:47.240
in Manhattan is always crazy. Like you'll see

00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:50.880
that, you know, it's like 46, 45th, 44th Street.

00:31:50.980 --> 00:31:52.619
There's like three trucks on each street and

00:31:52.619 --> 00:31:54.359
it's and they steal the parking and it becomes

00:31:54.359 --> 00:31:57.380
like a nightmare against the poor residents that

00:31:57.380 --> 00:32:02.799
don't care. They don't care. Right. Right. They've

00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:04.880
seen it all a billion times. They're just like,

00:32:05.019 --> 00:32:09.900
get it out of here. We live here. Is that something

00:32:09.900 --> 00:32:12.819
that you would like to get back into? Like, did

00:32:12.819 --> 00:32:16.779
you did you enjoy doing that? Is that I said

00:32:16.779 --> 00:32:19.759
I sent I do it on and off. I took a break. I

00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:24.359
became a I became a father while. Congratulations,

00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:26.440
dude. That's right. You know, I decided that,

00:32:26.779 --> 00:32:29.839
like, as much as I love it, that, you know, the

00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:33.210
kind of like a door to door You had like 16,

00:32:33.329 --> 00:32:37.529
17, 18 hours every day door to door on that business.

00:32:37.789 --> 00:32:43.410
So I just took kind of wow. I sent Bobby my page

00:32:43.410 --> 00:32:46.069
with the list of stuff I did. I've done a lot

00:32:46.069 --> 00:32:54.109
of stuff. Bobby, pull that up. We got to wake

00:32:54.109 --> 00:32:55.910
Bobby up some time steady. I don't know if you

00:32:55.910 --> 00:32:59.880
ever watch the show, but he is hysterical. That's

00:32:59.880 --> 00:33:02.880
our Bobby. Yeah, it's just working on. I did

00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:07.380
a really cool one. I met Tom Waits. I did a really

00:33:07.380 --> 00:33:11.940
cool one. Jim Jarman. Oh, sure. It was called

00:33:11.940 --> 00:33:14.000
Father Mother Sister Brother. And it actually

00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:16.839
shot in Jersey. And I got to hang out with Tom

00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:22.200
Waits and experience him. And he he didn't have

00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:24.240
a guitar. I was like, what are you doing? You

00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:25.599
know, like, do you have a guitar with you? And

00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:28.200
he's like, I don't got a guitar. And he's just

00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:30.039
like, I don't know anything. And I was like,

00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:32.839
okay, let me pull some strings. And it was funny,

00:33:32.859 --> 00:33:35.380
because, you know, it's like, kind of in this

00:33:35.380 --> 00:33:39.720
crowd of people. And, you know, I'm like thinking,

00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:41.759
like, okay, I can come up with a guitar for Tom

00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:43.319
Waits, like I got, you know, I got something

00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:45.339
like, what do you know, what do you, what do

00:33:45.339 --> 00:33:46.779
you like? And he's like, I, you know, nothing.

00:33:46.980 --> 00:33:48.519
He's like, you know, Taylor, you know, Martin,

00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:50.740
and he's like, naming these like really expensive

00:33:50.740 --> 00:33:53.740
guitars. So and I'm like, I'm gonna be able to

00:33:53.740 --> 00:33:56.599
get this. But I actually I actually called a

00:33:56.599 --> 00:33:59.819
friend who had exactly what he wanted, which

00:33:59.819 --> 00:34:02.940
was like a parlor size tailor, like this little

00:34:02.940 --> 00:34:07.039
guitar. And we were able to get it to him. Get

00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:09.940
the fuck out of here. How cool is that? That

00:34:09.940 --> 00:34:14.820
guy is really sharp and smart. And so I'm guessing

00:34:14.820 --> 00:34:17.179
as you're a musician, that's got to be like a

00:34:17.179 --> 00:34:20.519
hero of yours of sorts. I think I think for me,

00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:23.880
like I've never been. I've never been starstruck

00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:26.820
by actors. The only actor I was ever starstruck

00:34:26.820 --> 00:34:29.860
by was Kevin Arnold's father from The Wonder

00:34:29.860 --> 00:34:33.260
Years. When I met him, like I saw him, I was

00:34:33.260 --> 00:34:35.920
like, I like shit when I saw him for some reason.

00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:40.159
And, and paintings, when I see paintings, I'm

00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:42.800
starstruck by them. And sometimes musicians and

00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:49.699
Tom Waits, for sure, was, yeah, was a huge one.

00:34:49.699 --> 00:34:51.039
Let me see if I could send this here to Bobby

00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:54.510
if you get it. He's got it. He says he, I have

00:34:54.510 --> 00:34:57.829
his instant page. No, that's not it. All right.

00:34:57.889 --> 00:35:04.210
Cool. Um, so, so, so you never got like a starstruck,

00:35:04.329 --> 00:35:06.489
like talking to any of these actors on set or

00:35:06.489 --> 00:35:08.730
anything like that. Like you, you got to their

00:35:08.730 --> 00:35:10.989
level pretty quick. Just people like you, you're

00:35:10.989 --> 00:35:13.590
around them enough. Like what's weird is like

00:35:13.590 --> 00:35:19.170
the, um, the, like the entourage that follows

00:35:19.170 --> 00:35:22.840
them, you know, you almost, you almost feel Sometimes

00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:26.800
I had feelings of feeling like feeling awkward

00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:28.579
or sorry for them because they are surrounded

00:35:28.579 --> 00:35:30.659
by people that are just like yesing them all

00:35:30.659 --> 00:35:33.420
the time and and you know like they you know

00:35:33.420 --> 00:35:35.300
like they like I feel like they could use like

00:35:35.300 --> 00:35:39.500
a little bit of just like reality like like like

00:35:39.500 --> 00:35:41.599
I'll go little really own pretzels everybody

00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:44.380
like I don't need like someone to like run and

00:35:44.380 --> 00:35:48.880
bring me pretzels like they're you know on fire

00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:52.340
you know You know, I think that robs the people

00:35:52.340 --> 00:35:58.300
sometimes of. Some of some of them like some

00:35:58.300 --> 00:36:06.159
of them don't. Yeah. The the guy from Person

00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:09.440
of Interest, he was in Fast Times at Ridgemont

00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:13.699
High, right? That was one. The Jim Caviezel.

00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:19.760
No, was it spade spader? No, the. Is that not

00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:23.860
person of interest? That's blacklist. Yeah, yeah,

00:36:23.860 --> 00:36:28.400
yeah. Nevermind. Don't mind me. I took a hero

00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:30.539
dose of mushrooms with Bobby on his birthday.

00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:35.900
No, no, but Bobby did. So I'm using his as an

00:36:35.900 --> 00:36:38.239
excuse for why my brain is so messed up. Five,

00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:41.900
five grams. Let's see. Let's bring them on and

00:36:41.900 --> 00:36:43.920
see what a hero dose is. And then we'll have

00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.599
them put that page up. Bobby, what's a hero dose

00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:52.420
of shrooms? Five grams. Five grams. My God. Fun.

00:36:53.059 --> 00:36:56.519
Fun. Yeah. I was a trip and a half. I'll tell

00:36:56.519 --> 00:37:00.679
you that. Did you eat them all at once? I ate

00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:03.519
them all at once with a lemon, a whole lemon.

00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:08.960
Spark. So you weren't acid breaks it down. You

00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:11.280
weren't doing chocolate. You did the real real

00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:14.559
deal. Were they called? Actually, they were penis

00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:18.840
envies. Yeah, you know that. Yeah, you know that.

00:37:19.059 --> 00:37:23.190
Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. Uh, Bobby came back the

00:37:23.190 --> 00:37:27.610
next day. Very loving. He, his ego died. Uh,

00:37:27.710 --> 00:37:30.070
what else happened to you, Bobby? You saw a lot

00:37:30.070 --> 00:37:33.170
of ego dust, but I just, I just, you know, I

00:37:33.170 --> 00:37:36.969
just, I was stuck for like 10 minutes, like just,

00:37:36.989 --> 00:37:39.909
just completely stuck. Like I didn't know where

00:37:39.909 --> 00:37:42.980
I was or what I was doing. Like, I didn't know

00:37:42.980 --> 00:37:46.179
what I was doing on this planet. It was just

00:37:46.179 --> 00:37:50.760
crazy. But it's definitely something I don't

00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:53.280
recommend. I'm not going to recommend drugs,

00:37:53.760 --> 00:38:00.320
but it's something that does open more pathways,

00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:04.920
I would say, up with your neurons. And it does

00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:07.440
open your brain up more. I'm going to admit that.

00:38:07.699 --> 00:38:13.179
That's a fact. Okay, so I actually had a real

00:38:13.179 --> 00:38:16.760
thought about this a couple nights ago. So I

00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:20.599
actually am going to promote drugs, but I'm going

00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.739
to promote psychedelic drugs. I'm even talking

00:38:23.739 --> 00:38:27.300
to kids out there because I feel I feel this.

00:38:27.420 --> 00:38:29.039
No, listen, seriously, because kids are going

00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:31.980
to experiment with drugs. It's like they haven't

00:38:31.980 --> 00:38:35.179
got the education down to figure out how to not

00:38:35.179 --> 00:38:39.139
get them to do it. But I feel that if you if

00:38:39.139 --> 00:38:43.559
you experiment with psychedelics before you experiment

00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:46.920
with like cocaine or heroin or anything like

00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:50.039
that. I think you'll save yourself from being

00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:52.940
a drug addict. I think if you do psychedelics

00:38:52.940 --> 00:38:56.840
first, you'll realize the evilness of the other

00:38:56.840 --> 00:38:59.679
ones. And I don't think you can become addicted

00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:01.579
that way, because I've just I've known people

00:39:01.579 --> 00:39:04.860
who've done it kind of both ways. And I don't

00:39:04.860 --> 00:39:07.300
know if it's by chance that it's worked out that

00:39:07.300 --> 00:39:10.300
way, but. It seems I'm on to something so kids

00:39:10.300 --> 00:39:12.340
if you're gonna experiment do some mushrooms

00:39:12.340 --> 00:39:15.099
and acid and then go I would agree with that

00:39:15.099 --> 00:39:17.239
I would agree with that wholeheartedly because

00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:19.719
when I was done with when I was on tripping I

00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:21.800
just felt like I didn't need anything. I didn't

00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:25.659
need You know, I just felt like I was fine, you

00:39:25.659 --> 00:39:31.780
know I do take Xanax. I have a prescription for

00:39:31.780 --> 00:39:35.260
Xanax, but I also lowered my dosage on that,

00:39:35.260 --> 00:39:39.670
you know No have you ever killed anybody bobby

00:39:39.670 --> 00:39:44.010
i have not um hold on no never killed anyone

00:39:44.010 --> 00:39:48.989
okay good all right you just admitted to xanax

00:39:48.989 --> 00:39:50.469
juice i'm wondering what else you're gonna admit

00:39:50.469 --> 00:39:53.530
to i mean i'm not i'm not gonna hold things back

00:39:53.530 --> 00:39:57.250
i'm joking with you bobby i'm joking i'm on xanax

00:39:57.250 --> 00:40:00.869
right now and um some other things yeah i'm not

00:40:00.869 --> 00:40:04.949
gonna lie some other things cocaine is a hell

00:40:04.949 --> 00:40:08.760
of a drug folks uh It really is, though. It's

00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:11.880
a shitty, shitty drug. Enough is never enough.

00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:16.280
You always want more. It's like vagina. Once

00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:20.079
you get a taste of it, you know, it's just like

00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:23.920
speaking of, though. Bobby, you got to pull that.

00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:28.579
Hold up. Hold on and put it up again. Oh, I would

00:40:28.579 --> 00:40:31.980
say on the psychedelic thing is that in the drug

00:40:31.980 --> 00:40:34.920
world, I think that there's there's givers and

00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:38.800
there's takers. And I think the takers are like

00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:41.320
the real synthetic things that really they mess

00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:43.500
you up and they take from your chemistry and

00:40:43.500 --> 00:40:47.000
they kind of like juice you. And I feel like

00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:49.679
the psychedelic kind of like divine medications

00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:53.219
that give you something at the end and they and

00:40:53.219 --> 00:40:57.539
you leave with something more than you than you

00:40:57.539 --> 00:41:02.440
you kind of showed up with. Yeah, I would also

00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:04.969
well said. Okay, I would also say I'm talking

00:41:04.969 --> 00:41:08.809
about cocaine. There's a way that people work

00:41:08.809 --> 00:41:13.030
with the plant itself. In South America, it's

00:41:13.030 --> 00:41:17.610
called mum, mum bae. And it's just ground up

00:41:17.610 --> 00:41:20.789
leaf. It just goes, they they use it when they

00:41:20.789 --> 00:41:24.289
go on like long hikes and stuff. I've heard about

00:41:24.289 --> 00:41:27.690
right. And they take almost like we do tobacco

00:41:27.690 --> 00:41:29.650
in our mountains. And then they sometimes even

00:41:29.650 --> 00:41:33.150
use like a tobacco tar called Ambil. and they

00:41:33.150 --> 00:41:37.349
put that inside also and they pull on that. They'll

00:41:37.349 --> 00:41:41.869
just pull on that ball of powder for like. Could

00:41:41.869 --> 00:41:45.869
be like 10 hours. And wow, it's really, it's

00:41:45.869 --> 00:41:48.809
really the Western mind that bastardizes all

00:41:48.809 --> 00:41:53.460
the plants. A hundred percent. I mean. When you

00:41:53.460 --> 00:41:55.639
come, it's when you come down to a lot of the

00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:58.119
reason why drugs were illegal here is because

00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:01.019
we didn't grow like the best ones here. So it

00:42:01.019 --> 00:42:03.659
was like, make them illegal. You know, it's like

00:42:03.659 --> 00:42:06.079
and I think the education on drugs is really

00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:08.599
what needs to be. You know, you hear growing

00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:11.739
up pot is the gateway drug. This is your brain.

00:42:11.860 --> 00:42:13.519
This is your brain on drugs. And then the first

00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:15.880
time I smoked pot, I was like, this is fun as

00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:18.760
fuck. This is nowhere near the way they described

00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:21.349
it. is cocaine the same way. You know what I'm

00:42:21.349 --> 00:42:23.130
saying? Like if they were honest with me and

00:42:23.130 --> 00:42:25.690
we're like, listen, pot's going to be amazing.

00:42:25.809 --> 00:42:26.829
You're going to have a good time. You're going

00:42:26.829 --> 00:42:30.130
to laugh. Do it every day. Maybe you become lethargic

00:42:30.130 --> 00:42:32.570
and you let your dreams pass by and just like,

00:42:32.710 --> 00:42:34.570
be honest. Like, don't tell me it's the fucking

00:42:34.570 --> 00:42:36.949
worst thing in the world. And then I experiment,

00:42:36.949 --> 00:42:39.469
realize it's not. And then I'm wondering, what

00:42:39.469 --> 00:42:41.690
else did you lie to me about? Is Santa not real

00:42:41.690 --> 00:42:46.650
and the Easter bunny? Come on. Watch out. She's

00:42:46.650 --> 00:42:49.219
real, dude, because One came in the middle of

00:42:49.219 --> 00:42:51.719
night and I swear to God gave me some hanky panky.

00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:53.599
If that was my mother, I'm going to have to really

00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:57.300
go to a therapist after the show. I do. Bobby,

00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:00.260
bring up that shared screen again. I don't know

00:43:00.260 --> 00:43:03.219
how it keeps stopping the share. Oh, maybe it's

00:43:03.219 --> 00:43:09.199
me. No, you're in control. I am not in control.

00:43:12.099 --> 00:43:15.639
If I go this way, does it? Oh, no, that's that.

00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:18.139
I'm just trying to see the best way to see it.

00:43:18.260 --> 00:43:23.119
Is it this? I guess it is. Yeah. Amazing Spider

00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:26.079
-Man 2. Is this true, Teddy? Yeah, I was the

00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:28.340
key PA on that with another guy named Justin.

00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:32.500
Get the fuck out of here. Every time I hear DP,

00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:34.719
you know my mind goes to double penetration.

00:43:37.720 --> 00:43:41.199
Halloween kills. Was that the one? Teddy knows

00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:44.960
me well. Was that the one Rob's on? That was

00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:48.059
the second of the final, the final three that

00:43:48.059 --> 00:43:53.599
they made. David Gordon Green and that crew.

00:43:55.500 --> 00:43:58.000
Do you have a favorite project that you worked

00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:01.099
on? And if it's too hard to pick out, maybe break

00:44:01.099 --> 00:44:05.139
it down between movie and TV. They're all. Every

00:44:05.139 --> 00:44:09.260
single one is an adventure. And, you know, when

00:44:09.260 --> 00:44:12.420
you on and on some of these, I didn't do the

00:44:12.420 --> 00:44:14.940
entire things like I didn't do the entire John

00:44:14.940 --> 00:44:19.000
Wick, I just did the New York, Verrazano Bridge,

00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:24.579
like stunt stuff. But every, every movie is its

00:44:24.579 --> 00:44:29.719
own. You know that show Deadliest Catch? Fuck

00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:32.119
yeah, dude. I'm addicted to it now. I've literally

00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:34.380
been binging it. Yeah, I don't like go out to

00:44:34.380 --> 00:44:36.639
sea with this crew of people and you and you

00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:39.239
just live with these people for five or six months

00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:45.900
and You're experiencing all these like logistical

00:44:45.900 --> 00:44:48.860
hurdles and contortions and you're trying to

00:44:48.860 --> 00:44:51.679
make all this stuff happen and and in the meantime

00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:55.000
you're creating these movies, but it's really

00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:58.480
an adventure for the crew just as much as you

00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:00.800
know You watch it. You are back. And you're like,

00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:03.159
Oh, my God, I was. Oh, I remember that day. Oh,

00:45:03.159 --> 00:45:05.860
I was here. Oh, that's the day this guy, you

00:45:05.860 --> 00:45:08.300
know, threw a piece of right at me. Oh, that

00:45:08.300 --> 00:45:10.699
day this happened. Whatever like crazy shit happens

00:45:10.699 --> 00:45:14.400
out there. So does that get hard, though? I mean,

00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:17.639
like working on a on a like so many years we

00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:20.019
on person of interest. We're on a couple of seasons

00:45:20.019 --> 00:45:24.010
of that show, actually. So at that point, you're

00:45:24.010 --> 00:45:26.829
like a family, right? Like the cast and crew.

00:45:27.010 --> 00:45:28.849
It's like got to be rough when that is coming

00:45:28.849 --> 00:45:31.449
to an end and you're moving on. I said, thank

00:45:31.449 --> 00:45:33.469
you for touching on that. Yeah. Like you, you

00:45:33.469 --> 00:45:36.210
create relationships with people and, and you

00:45:36.210 --> 00:45:38.750
experience, you know, like person of interest

00:45:38.750 --> 00:45:42.130
had five seasons, four of five of the seasons

00:45:42.130 --> 00:45:45.449
were 10 months long. So that means that means

00:45:45.449 --> 00:45:48.389
that you're shooting for 70, 80 hours a week

00:45:48.389 --> 00:45:53.760
for 10 months straight. And, um, You're seeing

00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:55.940
them more than you're actually seeing your family.

00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:58.300
Probably people are going through. You're going

00:45:58.300 --> 00:46:00.679
through life metamorphosis. They're going through

00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:03.719
stuff. Their families like you're you're like

00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:06.039
you're embracing them. You're holding them. You're

00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:08.559
like everybody's growing and changing and and

00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:11.000
fighting and making up and you know, this is

00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:12.840
like going out and partying. I mean, there's

00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:16.619
all types of shit that goes on, you know, sounds

00:46:16.619 --> 00:46:20.860
like being on tour. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Same thing

00:46:20.860 --> 00:46:23.219
around all these people that you got to live

00:46:23.219 --> 00:46:26.920
this shared life experience out in the road.

00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:29.579
True. I didn't even think of that, like, because

00:46:29.579 --> 00:46:31.340
you're probably always with the same your band,

00:46:31.340 --> 00:46:33.380
but the touring bands that you're with and all

00:46:33.380 --> 00:46:35.679
that, too. You could kind of grow some attachments

00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:40.980
to Teddy. This is cool. So Chad got to be a single

00:46:40.980 --> 00:46:43.579
because he's an idiot and fucking was like married

00:46:43.579 --> 00:46:46.059
in like ninety five when he was Rolling Stones.

00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:48.659
Nineteen ninety five artists of the year. And

00:46:48.659 --> 00:46:51.760
then and then luckily he had some single time,

00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:54.760
but he was single. I think it was around 2000.

00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:58.320
The Counting Crows Tour. So him and Adam Duritz

00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:00.619
were single at the time, and they used to get

00:47:00.619 --> 00:47:03.079
a little drunk together and pick up some babes

00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:05.679
and stuff and party backstage. So I was just

00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:07.219
thinking that must have been a cool time. And

00:47:07.219 --> 00:47:09.539
he probably didn't want, you know, the counting

00:47:09.539 --> 00:47:11.719
crows to leave that tour either. It was a fun

00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:16.079
tour. Yes. Mm hmm. You know, I saw you guys.

00:47:16.179 --> 00:47:19.110
I don't know what tour it was on. I was in like

00:47:19.110 --> 00:47:23.530
the fifth row. I was a kid. It was at PNC Bank

00:47:23.530 --> 00:47:27.130
Art Center. Okay. Yeah. And I remember that the

00:47:27.130 --> 00:47:29.610
singer said that the venue looked like a spaceship.

00:47:30.789 --> 00:47:36.090
Yes. I could have been 95 or 97 or something.

00:47:36.210 --> 00:47:37.630
I mean, we played there a bunch of times at that

00:47:37.630 --> 00:47:41.030
place. But yeah, it was a really good show. It

00:47:41.030 --> 00:47:44.050
impacted the musician in me. So thank you. Cool.

00:47:44.590 --> 00:47:47.679
Yeah, man. Fuck. Yeah. Nice. Uh, we found out

00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:49.619
yesterday. So we had, uh, we had like a special

00:47:49.619 --> 00:47:52.139
show, but we had this guy, Bruce Valanch on and

00:47:52.139 --> 00:47:55.780
he's, uh, like a pretty famous writer. Um, but

00:47:55.780 --> 00:47:59.199
he wrote a line, I guess, for Steven Tyler. So

00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:01.139
Chad had like saw it in his bio and asking like

00:48:01.139 --> 00:48:03.360
what he wrote for Steven Tyler. And it turns

00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:05.480
out like he did write some like stage banter

00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:08.300
forum and like some other stuff. But I always

00:48:08.300 --> 00:48:11.199
thought, uh, Chad, that Ed Kowalczyk could have

00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:14.019
used a writer. He always said like the corniest

00:48:14.019 --> 00:48:17.539
shit. in between so you know daddy you know like

00:48:17.539 --> 00:48:19.800
live was like my favorite band so for me to be

00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:21.739
like it's that's why I asked him about that because

00:48:21.739 --> 00:48:24.679
I was like he he worked with Barbra Streisand

00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:28.320
and Bette Midler and Steven Tyler and I'm like

00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:30.860
so you're writing like I never even thought that

00:48:30.860 --> 00:48:33.980
someone does that like writes banter for me either

00:48:33.980 --> 00:48:39.340
talk on stage but it makes sense I mean yeah

00:48:39.340 --> 00:48:41.980
it makes a lot of sense tell some jokes say this

00:48:41.980 --> 00:48:45.389
say this here And sometimes you don't want to

00:48:45.389 --> 00:48:47.489
just leave somebody should write a dumb shit.

00:48:47.489 --> 00:48:49.809
You're like, what are you saying? Yeah. So what

00:48:49.809 --> 00:48:51.690
do you just kind of like load them up with like

00:48:51.690 --> 00:48:54.210
a quiver of like kind of like banter? Like you

00:48:54.210 --> 00:48:57.230
got like five five arrows you could shoot. I

00:48:57.230 --> 00:48:59.170
guess that's what the last was doing. I don't

00:48:59.170 --> 00:49:03.230
know. Yeah. He might he might have been right.

00:49:03.329 --> 00:49:05.469
And like what he was feeling when he wrote this

00:49:05.469 --> 00:49:08.349
song, you know, like, I don't know, just kind

00:49:08.349 --> 00:49:11.679
of spitballing here. Could have been right in,

00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:14.500
you know, some cool pickup lines for the ladies

00:49:14.500 --> 00:49:19.239
out in the. Well, yeah. So but just to get back

00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:22.420
to Ed Kowalczyk's corniness, the corniest lyric

00:49:22.420 --> 00:49:25.659
ever written by him. Go chat. Cry. What is it?

00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:29.860
Oh, it's Teddy. You're the Dolphins. No, dude.

00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:34.219
He has a he has a he has a son with live. It's

00:49:34.219 --> 00:49:36.159
game seven every single night. So I'm not going

00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:37.940
to Jimmy Buffett with your dad. He's talking

00:49:37.940 --> 00:49:40.929
about. Yeah, he's rapping at Teddy rap rap. Yeah,

00:49:40.929 --> 00:49:46.150
that's interesting. It was funny. But I have

00:49:46.150 --> 00:49:48.909
an F. Mary kill for you, Chad. That's a good

00:49:48.909 --> 00:49:50.969
one, Teddy. You'll enjoy it, too. I just have

00:49:50.969 --> 00:49:55.570
to remember it if I can. But it's a good one.

00:49:55.710 --> 00:49:57.829
So I did one with them, Teddy. I don't know if

00:49:57.829 --> 00:50:00.809
you know, but him and his childhood friends from

00:50:00.809 --> 00:50:02.610
live, they're in like a little bit of a, you

00:50:02.610 --> 00:50:05.449
know, tiff together right now. So they're kind

00:50:05.449 --> 00:50:07.929
of not on speaking terms. So I did a. f mary

00:50:07.929 --> 00:50:11.130
kill between the other members of live to see

00:50:11.130 --> 00:50:14.949
who he would fuck mary or kill that one hit the

00:50:14.949 --> 00:50:18.329
power out of that one yeah it's not hard but

00:50:18.329 --> 00:50:24.989
i was marrying i was marrying ed koalchick um

00:50:24.989 --> 00:50:27.809
so i could divorce him and take the loot i was

00:50:27.809 --> 00:50:31.329
going to kill chad taylor and i was going to

00:50:31.329 --> 00:50:35.059
uh fuck patrick dalheimer nice And they're all

00:50:35.059 --> 00:50:37.340
into it, dude. Ed called me up was like, yes,

00:50:37.340 --> 00:50:39.860
of course, I'll marry you. Patrick was like,

00:50:39.880 --> 00:50:43.239
yeah, man, I'm bent over waiting. I was like,

00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:46.719
I do always live like you were crazy about like,

00:50:46.780 --> 00:50:49.219
like I used to I used to bartend at this one

00:50:49.219 --> 00:50:52.059
bar in town and and Johnny. Yeah. And Johnny

00:50:52.059 --> 00:50:54.880
Rockman, like, like, like decked all the time,

00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:57.960
like cranking the jukebox. I mean, it was like

00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:01.039
you like, yeah, like worked for the band. Did

00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:03.690
you ever tell? Had your story about coming backstage

00:51:03.690 --> 00:51:08.250
and it, uh, Teddy, did I ever tell him that?

00:51:08.610 --> 00:51:10.730
It's funny. All right. Well, I'm going to hop.

00:51:11.010 --> 00:51:13.789
This is this is funny, but should I tell the

00:51:13.789 --> 00:51:15.550
story while you're contemplating this one check?

00:51:15.590 --> 00:51:16.769
Because I don't even think you're going to answer

00:51:16.769 --> 00:51:19.610
it. It's very bad. All right. So I'll say that.

00:51:19.610 --> 00:51:21.409
Have Mary kill and then I'll tell Teddy the story.

00:51:22.730 --> 00:51:26.909
So fuck Mary kill Chad, first wife, second wife,

00:51:27.130 --> 00:51:31.699
Chad Taylor's wife. Oh, wow. Yeah, OK. I'll think

00:51:31.699 --> 00:51:34.800
about that. Yeah. All right. So that's a good

00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:38.760
one. So so Teddy, so I'm like I was young, dude.

00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:43.960
I was probably like 19 or 18, maybe 20. But they

00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:46.840
were playing a show at Starland Ballroom and

00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:50.940
I brought my younger brother, my mother and this

00:51:50.940 --> 00:51:53.400
girl I was dating at the time. And my brother

00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:57.860
was mad young. He was like 11. And, you know,

00:51:57.980 --> 00:51:59.699
so I'm pretty much with him the whole time. The

00:51:59.699 --> 00:52:02.199
girls are doing whatever they're doing. I'm having

00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:04.559
a couple of drinks, you know, nothing crazy.

00:52:04.739 --> 00:52:07.019
Got my little brother there. But my mother and

00:52:07.019 --> 00:52:10.440
girlfriend make it backstage after the concert

00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:13.320
and like are partying with live and hanging out

00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:16.380
with them. So I finally realized, like, what's

00:52:16.380 --> 00:52:18.639
going on? I'm with my brother, like every place

00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:20.579
is like clearing out. So I go up to the security

00:52:20.579 --> 00:52:22.559
guard and I'm like, listen, dude, I'm like, my

00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:24.760
father's looking for us. This is my younger brother.

00:52:24.940 --> 00:52:27.739
My mother's up there with my girlfriend and like,

00:52:27.900 --> 00:52:29.539
we got to get out of here. My father wants us

00:52:29.539 --> 00:52:33.119
to go. Can I go up there and get them? He's like,

00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:36.559
yeah, go and get right fucking back down here.

00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:39.320
I'm like, all right. So I go up there and the

00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:41.239
whole time I'm like, my girlfriend's fucking

00:52:41.239 --> 00:52:45.280
up there with my favorite band, probably blowing

00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:48.619
everybody in it. And I got all these beautiful

00:52:48.619 --> 00:52:52.440
thoughts racing through my brain. So I get I

00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:56.500
get back to the cool ass backstage area and they're

00:52:56.500 --> 00:52:58.860
all having a good time. People are hanging out,

00:52:59.099 --> 00:53:02.420
drinking fucking music, going whatever. And I

00:53:02.420 --> 00:53:05.920
walk in, I'm like, where the fuck is my girlfriend

00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:09.500
at the top of my lungs? Did that party fucking

00:53:09.500 --> 00:53:12.800
stops? It was like, what the fuck? So I make

00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:16.860
a big scene. Whatever turns out her and my mother

00:53:16.860 --> 00:53:19.679
were in the closet with. uh, Patrick Delheimer,

00:53:19.739 --> 00:53:22.480
the bassist from live smoking weed, uh, just

00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:24.559
having a good time, like, you know, just smoking

00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:28.500
through whatever. So they hear me come out. We

00:53:28.500 --> 00:53:32.639
leave like the vibe of the party just went like

00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:35.500
down until I left basically. And it was like

00:53:35.500 --> 00:53:38.139
a whole like five minute ordeal till I got them

00:53:38.139 --> 00:53:39.840
out of there. But everybody's like staring at

00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:41.880
me like, why is this guy here? What the fuck?

00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:45.500
So I completely ruined that whole great experience

00:53:45.500 --> 00:53:47.780
for whoever was enjoying it. What did your brother

00:53:47.780 --> 00:53:54.079
say? He was like, what the fuck? Like he was

00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:57.079
just like, you know, kind of mind blown. He's

00:53:57.079 --> 00:53:59.360
seeing guys that he just saw rocking on the stage

00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:01.960
and then he's seeing his older brother act like

00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:06.820
a moron in front of, you know, cool people. But,

00:54:06.940 --> 00:54:10.260
yeah, it was just it was shocking. And I just

00:54:10.260 --> 00:54:12.500
I hadn't thought about it in years. Then we were

00:54:12.500 --> 00:54:14.280
doing one of these shows and it popped my brain.

00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:17.699
I'm like. Oh my God, I got to tell this embarrassing

00:54:17.699 --> 00:54:22.099
fucking story. But yeah, they neither one of

00:54:22.099 --> 00:54:24.860
my mother or my girlfriend wasn't blowing anybody

00:54:24.860 --> 00:54:31.000
in the band. And it was cool, I guess. It was

00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:34.880
funny, funny, good story. Were you angry afterwards?

00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:38.619
Like, did you scold them or did you or you apologetic?

00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:46.539
Well, I didn't like the pissed off this didn't

00:54:46.539 --> 00:54:50.940
subside until I like literally walk outside and

00:54:50.940 --> 00:54:54.239
out the front door. And I was like, you idiot.

00:54:54.659 --> 00:54:58.739
You were just backstage and could have been partying

00:54:58.739 --> 00:55:03.099
with these dudes and people. And you just. fucking

00:55:03.099 --> 00:55:07.880
cause the scene and left. So so I went from being

00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:11.440
angry at them to angry at myself real quick.

00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:15.000
And I was like, wow, what a fucking moron you

00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:18.119
are, because I literally walked in on like a

00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:20.159
innocent scenario and it could have probably

00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:23.019
been like one of the best nights of my life had

00:55:23.019 --> 00:55:25.280
I not been done. Sounds like you learned. I mean,

00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:28.260
it sounds like you aced it like you or you learn

00:55:28.260 --> 00:55:32.539
one hundred things. So. One hundred percent.

00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:36.539
I completely learned after that moment to not

00:55:36.539 --> 00:55:40.860
let my feelings get the best of me anymore. But

00:55:40.860 --> 00:55:43.000
yeah, it was funny, man. As soon as the door

00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:45.440
closed, because, like, you know, I call the scene,

00:55:45.460 --> 00:55:47.000
we're walking out and like the bouncers were

00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:49.260
basically walking behind me because I was the

00:55:49.260 --> 00:55:51.760
asshole that just ruined the party. And then

00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:53.480
as soon as like the door closed behind me, I'm

00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:57.550
like, Whoa, dude, you just literally. Could have

00:55:57.550 --> 00:56:00.110
shut your mouth and partied up there for hours.

00:56:00.349 --> 00:56:08.289
But yeah. But I got to hang out with these dudes

00:56:08.289 --> 00:56:10.530
plenty other times, so it just wasn't my time

00:56:10.530 --> 00:56:15.670
back then. Totally redeemed yourself. Yeah. Totally.

00:56:15.889 --> 00:56:17.670
That's what it felt like, Teddy, like Dumb and

00:56:17.670 --> 00:56:22.030
Dumber when he traded in the van for the moped.

00:56:23.329 --> 00:56:29.969
You idiot. But yeah, good times What Teddy you

00:56:29.969 --> 00:56:32.929
played Starland ballroom haven't you when you

00:56:32.929 --> 00:56:40.869
I think I played it with Rizzo once maybe Yeah,

00:56:41.349 --> 00:56:44.409
yeah we had a mark Rizzo Chad that's the guy

00:56:44.409 --> 00:56:47.429
we had on way back today the shredder guitarist

00:56:47.429 --> 00:56:52.449
is this still open star that I Don't know I feel

00:56:52.449 --> 00:56:55.440
like maybe Is it, you know, look and see if they

00:56:55.440 --> 00:57:00.179
got any gigs going on? If only we had a producer

00:57:00.179 --> 00:57:03.000
named Bobby that would do it, you know, Teddy,

00:57:03.019 --> 00:57:07.099
you're looking for a producing job. Yeah. Yeah.

00:57:07.099 --> 00:57:09.940
From one child to get into the plane this Friday.

00:57:10.500 --> 00:57:14.940
No, there you go. Wow. Oh, shit. E town Kong

00:57:14.940 --> 00:57:18.059
really next week. Remember them? No, no, I was

00:57:18.059 --> 00:57:20.280
just shooting on this movie that's going to be

00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:24.409
coming out has. Paul Feig is the director. He

00:57:24.409 --> 00:57:27.230
was the director for Ghostbusters. And I think

00:57:27.230 --> 00:57:30.929
he did Bridesmaids. And I was just on this movie.

00:57:31.170 --> 00:57:33.869
They're in Jersey. And we were in Elizabeth last

00:57:33.869 --> 00:57:37.190
week. And I was telling all the PAs, like, I'm

00:57:37.190 --> 00:57:38.849
like this old, you know, I'm like this old, you

00:57:38.849 --> 00:57:41.510
know, I'm like, there used to be this band called

00:57:41.510 --> 00:57:44.429
E -Town. And they used to beat the shit. They

00:57:44.429 --> 00:57:46.570
used to beat the shit out of everybody. Just

00:57:46.570 --> 00:57:48.429
go into the show, you'd get the shit beat out

00:57:48.429 --> 00:57:52.869
of you. You know, they were like, what? That

00:57:52.869 --> 00:57:55.849
was a stick they would beat up the audience they

00:57:55.849 --> 00:58:00.710
had they had their I mean John maybe can What

00:58:00.710 --> 00:58:05.369
I remember it is that they had They had their

00:58:05.369 --> 00:58:08.289
crew that kind of like came with them. So everywhere

00:58:08.289 --> 00:58:10.710
they went they had their fans, but it was like

00:58:10.710 --> 00:58:15.570
a moshing Kind of setup so like you get you just

00:58:15.570 --> 00:58:17.329
by being in the crowd You were kind of in an

00:58:17.329 --> 00:58:20.800
altercation and then okay, you know, yeah So

00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:23.139
they rolled hard. You know, the band came with

00:58:23.139 --> 00:58:27.420
like this militia of people and they were all

00:58:27.420 --> 00:58:31.820
about the mosh pit. Yeah. It was great. Like,

00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:34.800
I think of some of the pits that we were in fucking

00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:38.920
even even like Teddy. You remember that place

00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:41.079
in East Rutherford? They used to have like a

00:58:41.079 --> 00:58:44.320
kid's night. It was on. And I was trying to tell

00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:47.119
my son about that the other day. I felt so crazy.

00:58:47.139 --> 00:58:51.619
I was like, yeah, I do. Dude, it wasn't so Chad.

00:58:51.739 --> 00:58:56.840
We're like anywhere from like 11 to 14 15 and

00:58:56.840 --> 00:58:59.300
they would have like Teen night and they would

00:58:59.300 --> 00:59:02.019
either have bands on and then they would have

00:59:02.019 --> 00:59:04.260
like different rooms It was like a club but for

00:59:04.260 --> 00:59:06.679
fucking kids and it was like, you know They didn't

00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:08.800
have like drink like alcohol drinks in there

00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:10.880
But people would bring stuff in fucking people

00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:13.199
would be smoking but in the one room where the

00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:15.000
bands were playing there'd be like these crazy

00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:17.559
mosh pits and you're like 12 years old, you know

00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:20.519
with some big 17 year old kids and just like

00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:24.809
get knocked around. Nice. Yeah. And but I mean,

00:59:24.889 --> 00:59:26.909
they were literally training you to go to New

00:59:26.909 --> 00:59:29.690
York City clubs at fucking 11 years old, because

00:59:29.690 --> 00:59:30.929
that's what it was like. Remember, Teddy was

00:59:30.929 --> 00:59:33.510
like you had like a little hip hop room and then

00:59:33.510 --> 00:59:37.130
the stage and crazy. Right. It was like JV. And

00:59:37.130 --> 00:59:39.429
then you would go to, like, LeMours in, like,

00:59:39.550 --> 00:59:43.210
Brooklyn and see, like, Life of Ag. Like, you

00:59:43.210 --> 00:59:45.690
know, because you knew you knew to at least get

00:59:45.690 --> 00:59:48.429
your hands up because someone's leg was coming

00:59:48.429 --> 00:59:51.250
or, you know, did you did you guys ever play

00:59:51.250 --> 00:59:55.659
the birch hill? Where is that? That was like

00:59:55.659 --> 00:59:59.400
what it was in the same town as Starland is Sayreville,

00:59:59.699 --> 01:00:03.199
but it was kind of like Before Starland became

01:00:03.199 --> 01:00:07.400
Starland. That's that stop Was that was the ones

01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:09.460
crazy. It was yeah, I don't remember playing

01:00:09.460 --> 01:00:13.940
there. I don't remember the virtual I Don't think

01:00:13.940 --> 01:00:15.519
so because I probably would have saw you there.

01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:18.739
I saw a fear factory there I saw a system of

01:00:18.739 --> 01:00:21.460
a down on their first tour there. Nice. Wow.

01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:23.980
Wow. That was a good that was a good place. You

01:00:23.980 --> 01:00:28.280
took beatings at that place. What a great fucking

01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:31.500
band system is. And and and that dude sounds

01:00:31.500 --> 01:00:34.760
great in fucking concert, too. It's hard music

01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:38.300
to sing and he, you know, not only is the like

01:00:38.300 --> 01:00:40.179
tone and everything, but like the lyrics are

01:00:40.179 --> 01:00:43.619
clear as he's doing it, which is everyone's great

01:00:43.619 --> 01:00:47.349
surge, right? Serge Tankin, Sir. Yeah, I think

01:00:47.349 --> 01:00:51.250
Serge Tankin. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds like a terrorist.

01:00:51.550 --> 01:00:53.650
Everyone in that band's great. They're all great

01:00:53.650 --> 01:00:55.750
musicians. I mean, the drummer, the drummer,

01:00:55.869 --> 01:01:01.789
John is amazing. Yeah. Teddy, was that the first

01:01:01.789 --> 01:01:04.369
instrument you picked up drums or if you remember

01:01:04.369 --> 01:01:08.110
this name? I remember I played I played saxophone

01:01:08.110 --> 01:01:12.429
for Mr. Grady. You remember him? Oh, yeah. Grady

01:01:12.429 --> 01:01:16.159
is my car, bro. And then I played guitar. And

01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:18.179
I was playing guitar for a while, but everyone

01:01:18.179 --> 01:01:20.519
was playing guitar. So I was like, I'll just

01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:24.960
get the fucking drums. So somebody drums. That's

01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:26.659
funny, because I played saxophone all the school

01:01:26.659 --> 01:01:28.380
bands, I didn't play drums in the school bands

01:01:28.380 --> 01:01:31.659
only played drums with with the band. But I played

01:01:31.659 --> 01:01:33.980
saxophone. That's funny. Did you get to play

01:01:33.980 --> 01:01:38.219
baritone? No, I played tenor alto mostly, but

01:01:38.219 --> 01:01:41.019
tenor and the jazz band, but no, no baritone.

01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:43.280
I didn't want to mess with that. That's a lot

01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:48.139
of air. A lot of air you're blowing, too, right?

01:01:48.239 --> 01:01:52.559
It's a more like bigger tube or some ship. I

01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:57.179
never I played a mean triangle. I feel like that.

01:01:57.900 --> 01:02:01.920
Yeah, the snare drum. Yeah, that's right. Yeah,

01:02:02.059 --> 01:02:04.820
man. Dude, I played a mean snare, bro. You didn't

01:02:04.820 --> 01:02:06.780
want to mess with me on that bad boy. Oh, and

01:02:06.780 --> 01:02:09.070
then I got. There was like some rock and song

01:02:09.070 --> 01:02:10.889
we played and he brought me out a symbol and

01:02:10.889 --> 01:02:18.610
I could like do the. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I

01:02:18.610 --> 01:02:21.369
wish I fucking picked up drums, though, over

01:02:21.369 --> 01:02:23.449
the guitar, because I feel like it's more fun

01:02:23.449 --> 01:02:26.210
to play like it's a you're almost working out

01:02:26.210 --> 01:02:29.150
and having fun making music. You know what I'm

01:02:29.150 --> 01:02:31.269
saying? I've seen you guys get off stage. You're

01:02:31.269 --> 01:02:34.530
both dripping. It's great. It's not fun to carry

01:02:34.530 --> 01:02:39.340
and set it all up, but it's fun to. True. Yes,

01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:42.780
that's true. Yes. You got to remember every little.

01:02:42.980 --> 01:02:45.300
Yeah. You keeping track of like all these little

01:02:45.300 --> 01:02:49.360
fucking widgets. Yep. Yeah. You want to be a

01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:52.460
lead singer then for that. That's right. Or I

01:02:52.460 --> 01:02:54.659
could I'll be the percussion section and just

01:02:54.659 --> 01:02:57.420
plays the triangle. My whole thing right here.

01:03:00.339 --> 01:03:02.280
Do you miss playing in bands, Teddy? Is that

01:03:02.280 --> 01:03:05.599
something you still fuck around with? You ever

01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:07.599
plan on doing it again? I want to play. I want

01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:10.420
to play more. And I've kind of surrendered to

01:03:10.420 --> 01:03:13.099
the fact that, like, I don't care. It's just

01:03:13.099 --> 01:03:15.019
something that comes through me and I just want

01:03:15.019 --> 01:03:17.179
to do it. And I don't care if I'm playing like

01:03:17.179 --> 01:03:20.380
Tina Turner songs or whatever. Like, I just like

01:03:20.380 --> 01:03:23.360
doing it. And like, it's for me. Like, it's like

01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:25.639
I don't even care. You know, like I'll play.

01:03:26.179 --> 01:03:28.820
You know, I write, I write my own stuff and I,

01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:31.519
and I produce my own stuff, but I would love

01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:34.460
to even, you know, like you see these, you see

01:03:34.460 --> 01:03:36.280
even these cover bands are like these tribute

01:03:36.280 --> 01:03:39.179
bands. You know, they, they pick a band and they

01:03:39.179 --> 01:03:41.380
become a tribute band and they're, they're making

01:03:41.380 --> 01:03:43.940
great money. And they're just, they're just jamming,

01:03:43.940 --> 01:03:46.179
you know, like jamming his life. You know, it's

01:03:46.179 --> 01:03:49.380
fun. Like some Metallica band that I saw an ad

01:03:49.380 --> 01:03:52.079
they're called the four horsemen, you know, and

01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:55.110
imagine that like, like all the materials there

01:03:55.110 --> 01:03:57.389
for you. Everybody knows your material, you know,

01:03:57.389 --> 01:04:01.170
it's kind of like a cool setup, you know, where,

01:04:01.170 --> 01:04:04.070
where, where do you hear this bad, the four horsemen,

01:04:04.070 --> 01:04:07.030
you know, but it's like, it's like there's Queen

01:04:07.030 --> 01:04:10.050
tribute bands and AC DC tribute bands. Like I

01:04:10.050 --> 01:04:12.110
just asked the universe for anything. Like I

01:04:12.110 --> 01:04:15.829
just want to play again, you know, fuck. Yeah,

01:04:15.829 --> 01:04:19.070
man. I mean, cause you were in like what three

01:04:19.070 --> 01:04:21.769
bands, I think at one point, at least I was in,

01:04:21.929 --> 01:04:25.039
I think five. at one time and I and I had a pickup

01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:27.239
truck and I would just put the drum set in and

01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:29.900
drive to this guy's studio jam with those guys

01:04:29.900 --> 01:04:33.099
pack it all up drive it over here jam with these

01:04:33.099 --> 01:04:35.920
guys like and I was doing that every night um

01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:39.059
it was like wow it was like one lump sum akora

01:04:39.059 --> 01:04:44.239
trudge yeah uh then it was the rizzo stuff and

01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:46.360
then and then yo had his stuff and then he had

01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:52.179
the cortez which was the um the band with roger

01:04:52.250 --> 01:04:57.150
from El Nino and El Nino. Yeah, it was the chops

01:04:57.150 --> 01:04:58.889
where it were happening back then, because I

01:04:58.889 --> 01:05:03.110
was playing like five hours a night. Yeah, man.

01:05:03.389 --> 01:05:05.610
Yeah, Chad, they had this cool ass. They had

01:05:05.610 --> 01:05:08.510
this cool ass dude. Was that in Clifton or for

01:05:08.510 --> 01:05:12.610
sake? Teddy, where the studio? So it was like

01:05:12.610 --> 01:05:15.050
this warehouse, Chad, that they divided like

01:05:15.050 --> 01:05:17.630
into rooms and then like made them kind of soundproofed

01:05:17.630 --> 01:05:19.530
in between and bands would just rent them out

01:05:19.530 --> 01:05:22.369
as studios. and pay like something cheap per

01:05:22.369 --> 01:05:25.289
month and like, you know, sometimes sleep there,

01:05:25.369 --> 01:05:27.789
but throw parties there and jam all the time,

01:05:27.849 --> 01:05:30.170
dude. Like if you were a musician, like this

01:05:30.170 --> 01:05:33.230
was a fucking Mecca to go to. And I used to just

01:05:33.230 --> 01:05:35.829
go there, get fucked up and watch all these awesome

01:05:35.829 --> 01:05:38.730
bands play and just be in my glory, dude. I've

01:05:38.730 --> 01:05:41.570
loved music for so long. So like to get to go

01:05:41.570 --> 01:05:44.530
and like have a couple of beers, smoke some pot

01:05:44.530 --> 01:05:47.329
and listen to great music. It was amazing. Stuff

01:05:47.329 --> 01:05:50.239
like that in L .A. like S .I .R. A lot of bands

01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:52.139
in there. There's all kinds of warehouses like

01:05:52.139 --> 01:05:55.400
that. That's yeah, it's a great it's a great.

01:05:55.719 --> 01:05:59.880
Now they're podcast studios. Now they're podcast

01:05:59.880 --> 01:06:02.119
studios. But yeah, I would go to like a chorus

01:06:02.119 --> 01:06:04.320
room and then a couple of doors down was Deny

01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:05.960
the Myths room. And then like there was just

01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:07.800
a bunch of cool ass bands there. It was like

01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:10.099
Beverly Hills 90210. Like it like it was like

01:06:10.099 --> 01:06:12.400
all drama happened and like who lives down the

01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:14.539
hall. Oh, this band. Did you hear what they said

01:06:14.539 --> 01:06:22.360
the other night? Like, you know, yeah. It was

01:06:22.360 --> 01:06:26.099
fucking phenomenal. Let me tell you, I want to

01:06:26.099 --> 01:06:27.860
play this for you while you're on the show. My

01:06:27.860 --> 01:06:31.119
brother just he released a single the other day,

01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:33.480
but he started. He's a he's a musician now. He's

01:06:33.480 --> 01:06:35.000
got some music coming. I want to play this for

01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:39.179
you. We're going to get Chad to do a drum track

01:06:39.179 --> 01:06:56.030
on one of these. You should do it too. I brought

01:06:56.030 --> 01:07:31.960
it. That's nice. Whoo. Cool. Lily's of David

01:07:31.960 --> 01:07:35.000
audience. Lily's of David thinks the song is

01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:38.960
skin and bones. So, yeah, he's that was the song

01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:41.340
the girl singing Deidre in it. And then he's

01:07:41.340 --> 01:07:44.420
got some songs where he sings and they're pretty

01:07:44.420 --> 01:07:46.539
cool. He's got some they're catchy, man. He's

01:07:46.539 --> 01:07:48.420
got ones that are just stuck in my brain. I'm

01:07:48.420 --> 01:07:50.340
like, dude, like, where did I hear that? I'm

01:07:50.340 --> 01:07:52.260
like, oh, that's my brother's play. Are they

01:07:52.260 --> 01:07:57.559
playing around here? Yeah, Asbury Park. I think

01:07:57.559 --> 01:07:59.619
he's got a show tonight, actually, at the House

01:07:59.619 --> 01:08:03.099
of Independence. And yeah, they're playing all

01:08:03.099 --> 01:08:06.260
like local South Jersey spots, places on the

01:08:06.260 --> 01:08:09.539
island. They did this cool thing in Tuckerton

01:08:09.539 --> 01:08:11.980
called Porch Fest. It was like on the porch on

01:08:11.980 --> 01:08:13.639
Route nine and just like a couple bands coming

01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:16.920
through playing acoustic sets and shit. But it's

01:08:16.920 --> 01:08:21.069
cool. Cool to see. I wanted to ask I wanted to

01:08:21.069 --> 01:08:25.229
ask Chad if he listens to Peter Gabriel's new

01:08:25.229 --> 01:08:28.090
album at all what he thought of that if you've

01:08:28.090 --> 01:08:30.770
heard it I have not heard it no I'll check it

01:08:30.770 --> 01:08:34.550
out I oh it's really awesome like I've seen he's

01:08:34.550 --> 01:08:37.289
probably been the artist that I've seen the most

01:08:37.289 --> 01:08:40.489
in my life and for some reason every time I see

01:08:40.489 --> 01:08:42.890
him I end up in the front row on mushrooms and

01:08:42.890 --> 01:08:46.069
it's like the best thing ever but listen to if

01:08:46.069 --> 01:08:49.970
you can listen to his new album Uh, it will be

01:08:49.970 --> 01:08:52.609
a treat for I'll check it out. Yeah. We, we,

01:08:52.609 --> 01:08:56.029
we tour with, uh, him and for WOMAD that tour

01:08:56.029 --> 01:08:59.250
that did the 94. So that was, that was one of

01:08:59.250 --> 01:09:02.010
the first times we did like a amphitheater tour.

01:09:02.369 --> 01:09:04.869
So obviously opening, but it was, we got to watch

01:09:04.869 --> 01:09:06.689
Peter Gabriel every night and did not know it

01:09:06.689 --> 01:09:09.850
was on it. It was cool, cool little thing. That

01:09:09.850 --> 01:09:13.170
was fun. Yeah. He's, I'll check it out. He's

01:09:13.170 --> 01:09:15.369
like, he's, he's got something going on with

01:09:15.369 --> 01:09:19.439
him. He's like some kind of I don't know. Yeah,

01:09:19.619 --> 01:09:21.359
it's just something coming through that guy.

01:09:21.539 --> 01:09:25.119
Oh, you know what else I saw? Did you like King

01:09:25.119 --> 01:09:30.319
Crimson? I wasn't totally familiar. I mean, I've

01:09:30.319 --> 01:09:32.260
heard of them, but I wasn't really familiar with

01:09:32.260 --> 01:09:35.159
them. I just went to at the King's Theater in

01:09:35.159 --> 01:09:38.119
Brooklyn. I just saw King Crimson now. I have

01:09:38.119 --> 01:09:41.520
a friend who is like a King Crimson encyclopedia

01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:45.079
and he like. pulled me into this world. But apparently,

01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:47.819
in the 80s, they had three albums that are different

01:09:47.819 --> 01:09:50.060
than all of their other albums. And it was beat,

01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:54.619
discipline, and three of a perfect pair. And

01:09:54.619 --> 01:09:57.880
they got together to read to do a tour of those

01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:03.640
albums. And so it was Adrian Ballou on guitar

01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:07.640
and singing. And Danny Carey from Tool was playing

01:10:07.640 --> 01:10:12.489
drums. Nice. Steve Vai was playing guitar. Jesus.

01:10:13.449 --> 01:10:20.029
Oh, wow. And Tony from from Peter. Yeah, the

01:10:20.029 --> 01:10:23.649
sopranos playing. I actually have a funny story

01:10:23.649 --> 01:10:27.390
about him I can share. Yeah. So I don't know

01:10:27.390 --> 01:10:30.930
if you if you if you like that those three albums

01:10:30.930 --> 01:10:33.909
or if you knew of them or not. I did not did

01:10:33.909 --> 01:10:35.670
not know about I'll check them out, though. Yeah,

01:10:35.710 --> 01:10:37.609
they're always looking for something. Yeah, that's

01:10:37.609 --> 01:10:40.000
down. though major in blue was playing with Jerry

01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:41.520
Harrison for a while they were doing a lot of

01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:43.340
the talking head stuff i think they might be

01:10:43.340 --> 01:10:47.079
still doing that and jerry jerry produced our

01:10:47.079 --> 01:10:52.539
first what first second fourth records so good

01:10:52.539 --> 01:10:55.819
friends with jerry the best ones man first second

01:10:55.819 --> 01:11:00.300
fourth uh i know it's kind of unpopular but the

01:11:00.300 --> 01:11:02.199
throwing copper and the distance to here are

01:11:02.199 --> 01:11:05.300
my two favorite by you guys you guys were like

01:11:07.140 --> 01:11:09.939
I love that, too. And there's definitely, you

01:11:09.939 --> 01:11:13.000
know, it's a toss up between those three. But

01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:16.359
number one is, like I said, it's tied between

01:11:16.359 --> 01:11:18.600
those and then somebody is just that close second.

01:11:19.260 --> 01:11:21.560
But it's like you guys were just onto something

01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:24.140
coming into that fourth studio album. You could

01:11:24.140 --> 01:11:28.640
tell it was like. A lot, it wasn't it was like

01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:30.699
all your ideas melting together, like it seemed

01:11:30.699 --> 01:11:32.819
like maybe dance with you might have been some

01:11:32.819 --> 01:11:34.880
Ed just brought completely to the table, but

01:11:34.880 --> 01:11:37.029
it seemed like a lot of that album. was real

01:11:37.029 --> 01:11:40.390
collaborative and you know like a lot of your

01:11:40.390 --> 01:11:43.029
musicianship was coming through because there's

01:11:43.029 --> 01:11:46.689
really the last collaborative album we did unfortunately

01:11:46.689 --> 01:11:50.930
yeah yeah man can you can i ask you questions

01:11:50.930 --> 01:11:54.189
about tracking the drums for those albums sure

01:11:54.189 --> 01:12:01.510
yeah absolutely like uh you know like um i imagine

01:12:01.510 --> 01:12:03.869
you played to a tempo you played to a click drum

01:12:04.090 --> 01:12:06.550
No use a click track on on those first four records

01:12:06.550 --> 01:12:09.449
at all. No, really? Yeah, we were just we would

01:12:09.449 --> 01:12:12.069
just do soup We do a lot of pre -production a

01:12:12.069 --> 01:12:14.369
lot of just play through the songs over and over

01:12:14.369 --> 01:12:17.649
again until we had them down and But no click

01:12:17.649 --> 01:12:20.390
tracks and then okay. All right, great. All right,

01:12:20.430 --> 01:12:23.930
so then and then the So then were the other guys

01:12:23.930 --> 01:12:25.449
in the other room just kind of playing along

01:12:25.449 --> 01:12:27.770
with you or you just like total like Playing

01:12:27.770 --> 01:12:30.989
to somebody so we we try to get it. We try to

01:12:30.989 --> 01:12:33.760
track as much live as we could so Obviously,

01:12:34.159 --> 01:12:36.659
if we're playing the whole song, everyone together,

01:12:37.140 --> 01:12:38.920
we're really going for the drums. But there was

01:12:38.920 --> 01:12:40.659
some guitar stuff and some bass stuff that was

01:12:40.659 --> 01:12:45.180
kept, even some vocals. But mainly we got the

01:12:45.180 --> 01:12:47.600
drums. But we would all play sometimes in the

01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:51.500
same room live with obviously using partitions

01:12:51.500 --> 01:12:55.300
and stuff to mitigate the sound. But yeah, it

01:12:55.300 --> 01:12:58.119
was basically playing them live in the studio.

01:13:01.490 --> 01:13:03.829
Thank you, and then and then let me ask you like

01:13:03.829 --> 01:13:08.010
I know Like I guess I'm asking like how hellacious

01:13:08.010 --> 01:13:11.369
the regimen was like I know some albums like

01:13:11.369 --> 01:13:13.829
every day They're changing heads on the kids,

01:13:13.829 --> 01:13:16.689
you know And they're like retuning and like was

01:13:16.689 --> 01:13:19.109
it like that or was it like kind of more loose

01:13:19.109 --> 01:13:22.729
or was it? It was pretty loose. I mean, you know

01:13:22.729 --> 01:13:26.590
we Track a song we pick pick a couple songs that

01:13:26.590 --> 01:13:29.939
we were gonna work on that day and track those

01:13:29.939 --> 01:13:33.159
with the drums, obviously. And, you know, I mean,

01:13:33.220 --> 01:13:34.939
if I had to change heads and stuff, we'd do that.

01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:38.420
But it was pretty loose. We we obviously had

01:13:38.420 --> 01:13:40.680
a budget, so we had to stay. We were being mindful

01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:43.460
of time, but it was still kind of pretty loose,

01:13:43.939 --> 01:13:45.680
especially for the first two. Like the third,

01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:47.760
third record, Secret Samadhi, we had a bigger

01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:50.439
budget so we could be a little more loose, if

01:13:50.439 --> 01:13:53.699
you will, try other stuff, other drums and stuff

01:13:53.699 --> 01:13:57.229
like that. But yeah. That's amazing. That's amazing

01:13:57.229 --> 01:13:59.050
that there was no click track. That's a, that's

01:13:59.050 --> 01:14:01.170
like a, like I want to say like great job. Like

01:14:01.170 --> 01:14:02.930
that's amazing. Like that's a heart. Thank you.

01:14:03.130 --> 01:14:05.850
I don't think a lot of people get like, like

01:14:05.850 --> 01:14:08.189
what yours, what's happening when you're saying

01:14:08.189 --> 01:14:11.289
you did not use that. Like, yeah, I, I didn't

01:14:11.289 --> 01:14:13.270
even think about it to tell you the truth until

01:14:13.270 --> 01:14:15.590
I just did an interview with the, with the guy

01:14:15.590 --> 01:14:18.229
that he used to be my Zildjian rep and his name's

01:14:18.229 --> 01:14:20.109
John DeChristopher and he retired from Zildjian,

01:14:20.189 --> 01:14:23.750
but he signed me to Zildjian and, uh, I did his

01:14:23.750 --> 01:14:26.340
podcast. and he asked me that question I was

01:14:26.340 --> 01:14:29.119
like wow no I've never really thought about or

01:14:29.119 --> 01:14:31.260
talked about it because that's just what we did

01:14:31.260 --> 01:14:34.880
like that was our and especially my pride is

01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:37.140
that we could play these songs fucking we didn't

01:14:37.140 --> 01:14:39.520
need a click track like we started using a click

01:14:39.520 --> 01:14:42.399
track on the fifth record because Ed was bringing

01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:46.140
songs already written basically to you know that

01:14:46.140 --> 01:14:50.060
he wrote to a click track into the studio so

01:14:50.060 --> 01:14:51.960
that took a little adjusting for me but it wasn't

01:14:51.960 --> 01:14:55.439
that hard I mean I obviously just not toot him

01:14:55.439 --> 01:14:58.840
out home, but I have good timing, so. Are you

01:14:58.840 --> 01:15:01.039
saying, call me a fool wasn't your best word?

01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:02.739
I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that, you

01:15:02.739 --> 01:15:05.460
know, it's we we started using click tracks then.

01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:09.460
So but yeah, I didn't it didn't even dawn on

01:15:09.460 --> 01:15:11.699
me that people actually did that because I mean,

01:15:11.779 --> 01:15:15.020
we we we grew up in York, Pennsylvania. I taught

01:15:15.020 --> 01:15:18.739
myself how to play drums. We we didn't have a

01:15:18.739 --> 01:15:21.119
community of musicians around us to even know

01:15:21.119 --> 01:15:22.819
about that kind of stuff. So we just heard our.

01:15:23.130 --> 01:15:25.010
favorite bands on the radio and stuff and we're

01:15:25.010 --> 01:15:26.989
like well we're gonna fucking do that and like

01:15:26.989 --> 01:15:31.149
and we just winged it and i mean i just naturally

01:15:31.149 --> 01:15:34.930
always had an affinity for the drums and naturally

01:15:34.930 --> 01:15:37.789
had good timing so didn't want to need to use

01:15:37.789 --> 01:15:41.569
a click track i think too like i think too yeah

01:15:41.569 --> 01:15:45.090
like huge huge yes on the timing and i think

01:15:45.090 --> 01:15:49.069
like i can't really speak for where the the heads

01:15:49.069 --> 01:15:52.609
of the kids are at now. But I but I know that

01:15:52.609 --> 01:15:55.729
back in back in when I was really young and being

01:15:55.729 --> 01:15:57.989
advanced that there was that sense of pride like,

01:15:58.289 --> 01:16:01.029
like we play the songs like we play the songs

01:16:01.029 --> 01:16:03.949
that we we don't use this we don't like that

01:16:03.949 --> 01:16:07.710
that that was that was like an integral kind

01:16:07.710 --> 01:16:09.829
of flag that I knew a lot of bands would fly

01:16:09.829 --> 01:16:12.489
like we don't use a click we don't we don't use

01:16:12.489 --> 01:16:15.840
I mean we witnessed auto tune come out. Yes.

01:16:16.100 --> 01:16:18.720
Oh my God. And that was like, I remember thinking

01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:21.659
like, nobody will stand for this. Like, right.

01:16:21.699 --> 01:16:23.840
Yeah. Once people find out, they're going to

01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:26.819
abolish it. And it became like, uh, like now

01:16:26.819 --> 01:16:29.659
it's like an artistic tool, I guess. Well, we,

01:16:29.659 --> 01:16:32.739
we were, we recorded our first record 91 in Milwaukee

01:16:32.739 --> 01:16:36.899
and, uh, Jerry Harrison was using an early, early

01:16:36.899 --> 01:16:39.500
version of pro tools back then for mostly for

01:16:39.500 --> 01:16:41.439
vocals at that point, cause it was very rudimentary.

01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:44.659
But he was using that for vocals to splice vocals

01:16:44.659 --> 01:16:49.359
together. But yeah, I mean, auto tune. I mean,

01:16:49.380 --> 01:16:51.760
it's got it's like everywhere now, but I'd like,

01:16:52.520 --> 01:16:55.560
even though I had great timing, the songs still

01:16:55.560 --> 01:16:57.699
breathe. Like you speed up a little bit in the

01:16:57.699 --> 01:17:00.020
chorus and you know, you feel that energy. And

01:17:00.020 --> 01:17:03.479
I always liked that. I mean, and I think a lot

01:17:03.479 --> 01:17:06.119
of new music now is just like everything's just

01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:08.880
like static and to the fucking click and everything's

01:17:08.880 --> 01:17:10.899
just regimented. It's like, boom, that's the

01:17:10.899 --> 01:17:14.840
way it is. Doesn't it? Sounds robotic. I'm old.

01:17:16.079 --> 01:17:18.159
So Teddy, you probably know this better than

01:17:18.159 --> 01:17:21.439
me, though. But Chad, you said that you play

01:17:21.439 --> 01:17:24.439
like what is it on the beat or play a little

01:17:24.439 --> 01:17:27.600
behind the beat or something behind the beat?

01:17:27.859 --> 01:17:32.439
Because so so live. So Chad had fucked up his

01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:35.210
shoulder a couple of years back. and live was

01:17:35.210 --> 01:17:37.449
touring with a second drummer. So because Chad

01:17:37.449 --> 01:17:40.170
was in a sling, so they had two drummers on stage.

01:17:40.670 --> 01:17:43.109
And at that point, you know, it sounded good

01:17:43.109 --> 01:17:44.869
because Chad was still doing his parts and stuff.

01:17:45.069 --> 01:17:46.810
And the drummer was kind of following along.

01:17:47.149 --> 01:17:50.069
But once Chad left the band and then this other

01:17:50.069 --> 01:17:52.670
guy took over, you could hear the difference.

01:17:52.710 --> 01:17:54.529
And I kept saying, like, it just doesn't sound.

01:17:54.630 --> 01:17:56.590
And this was an accomplished drummer, Robin Diaz.

01:17:56.670 --> 01:17:59.050
He was in whole he was in like a bunch of different

01:17:59.050 --> 01:18:01.340
bands. But I was like, it's something's off.

01:18:01.500 --> 01:18:03.199
It's like just doesn't sound right. And he said

01:18:03.199 --> 01:18:06.159
that's because he plays Chad specifically plays

01:18:06.159 --> 01:18:08.340
a little bit behind the beat, whereas this guy

01:18:08.340 --> 01:18:11.039
was like right on the beat and just that split

01:18:11.039 --> 01:18:15.020
second of a split second of time, like really

01:18:15.020 --> 01:18:17.420
could throw off the whole sound of the song.

01:18:18.199 --> 01:18:21.550
Yeah, there's yeah, there's a. So I've been working

01:18:21.550 --> 01:18:24.250
on this this Paul Feig movie and the first assistant

01:18:24.250 --> 01:18:27.149
director is this guy named artist Robinson and

01:18:27.149 --> 01:18:29.470
he's a musician and he does like all this like

01:18:29.470 --> 01:18:32.970
Texas. Yeah, he's awesome guy. All this like

01:18:32.970 --> 01:18:35.210
Texas kind of like boogie woogie stuff and we

01:18:35.210 --> 01:18:37.189
were and we're going to play like a little show

01:18:37.189 --> 01:18:39.409
for the crew. and we've been rehearsing, we're

01:18:39.409 --> 01:18:42.649
gonna actually jam tonight. Oh, cool. And he

01:18:42.649 --> 01:18:45.270
has this one song called, you can go to hell,

01:18:45.510 --> 01:18:50.229
I'm going to Texas. And, and, and I was playing

01:18:50.229 --> 01:18:52.789
behind the beat. And he was like, No, this one,

01:18:52.909 --> 01:18:55.829
you got it, you got to push it. And, and it's

01:18:55.829 --> 01:18:58.510
and john, just to your point, it's like, it's

01:18:58.510 --> 01:19:02.329
like, it's an interesting topic for a drummer,

01:19:02.550 --> 01:19:04.789
like where you sit in the beat, if you're kind

01:19:04.789 --> 01:19:06.810
of like laying back behind it, or if you're kind

01:19:06.810 --> 01:19:09.250
of like underneath it, like jabbing it forward.

01:19:09.250 --> 01:19:12.470
Yeah. And you can, and I think your ear is right.

01:19:12.529 --> 01:19:15.229
You can tell if someone's pushing something that

01:19:15.229 --> 01:19:17.909
doesn't want to be pushed or vice versa. This

01:19:17.909 --> 01:19:20.109
is another thing that I didn't realize, because

01:19:20.109 --> 01:19:22.470
like I said, it's all self taught. So at some

01:19:22.470 --> 01:19:26.590
point, many years, probably after the first four

01:19:26.590 --> 01:19:28.829
or five records, Someone said to me, yeah, you

01:19:28.829 --> 01:19:30.829
play like a little behind the beat. I'm like,

01:19:31.210 --> 01:19:34.329
what? So I didn't realize I was doing it. So

01:19:34.329 --> 01:19:37.050
it's then they played me. They show me the difference

01:19:37.050 --> 01:19:39.729
is like this. You're here and this guy plays

01:19:39.729 --> 01:19:42.270
right here and like, oh, fuck. OK, got it. So,

01:19:42.270 --> 01:19:46.390
yeah. Yeah, it's cool. It's like it's like your

01:19:46.390 --> 01:19:51.989
signature, you know. Thank you, dude. Iconic,

01:19:52.069 --> 01:19:57.210
man. I mean, not many songs. especially 90s rock

01:19:57.210 --> 01:20:00.029
songs start off with like a drum beat. You know,

01:20:00.109 --> 01:20:02.050
lives got one of them or a couple of them. Pain

01:20:02.050 --> 01:20:05.069
Lies on the Riverside is one that was any and

01:20:05.069 --> 01:20:07.949
he's got a Morocco on one hand. That was one

01:20:07.949 --> 01:20:11.529
thing I noticed. Kind of you both are similar

01:20:11.529 --> 01:20:14.329
in your drum styles. You're full body drummers.

01:20:14.449 --> 01:20:16.609
It's not like you're just behind the kit like

01:20:16.609 --> 01:20:19.029
Carter Beaufort almost looks like he's a blob

01:20:19.029 --> 01:20:21.470
with limbs like he's not moving. You guys are

01:20:21.470 --> 01:20:25.699
like full body feeling it. And you make drums

01:20:25.699 --> 01:20:28.439
look fun. I think that's a part of drums, too,

01:20:28.779 --> 01:20:31.859
as a, you know, person watching and fan of music.

01:20:31.859 --> 01:20:34.500
I think that's a key part of being a drummer.

01:20:34.699 --> 01:20:36.760
I agree. You got to move, man. You got to move.

01:20:37.039 --> 01:20:39.239
But I mean, you know, Carter Carter is an amazing

01:20:39.239 --> 01:20:41.880
drummer, but he is all technique. He's like just

01:20:41.880 --> 01:20:44.760
the wrist and the wrist and the arms. He doesn't

01:20:44.760 --> 01:20:46.600
get into it. I mean, he doesn't move his body

01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:48.199
a lot, like you said. But there's drummers like

01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:50.520
that and they're great. And there's guys that

01:20:50.520 --> 01:20:53.170
like fully get into it like. Dave Grohl, for

01:20:53.170 --> 01:20:55.369
instance, like you're fucking like, you know,

01:20:55.909 --> 01:20:59.390
I like that. I like that. That's my kind of drumming.

01:20:59.390 --> 01:21:01.869
I want to feel it. I'm like that. I'm like, like

01:21:01.869 --> 01:21:05.329
my face is contorting and I'm like dropping the

01:21:05.329 --> 01:21:08.189
sticks because of the sweat. But you get Carter

01:21:08.189 --> 01:21:10.449
one thing I noticed like he had this DVD was

01:21:10.449 --> 01:21:12.710
called under the table and drumming. He had it.

01:21:12.949 --> 01:21:15.850
I remember that. Yeah. And I got that DVD and

01:21:15.850 --> 01:21:17.710
I was like, I'm going to watch this. And one

01:21:17.710 --> 01:21:19.569
thing that was so huge for him is that he played

01:21:19.850 --> 01:21:22.449
He plays open, you know, so like he's he's not

01:21:22.449 --> 01:21:25.390
he's not crossed on his high hat. You know, he's

01:21:25.390 --> 01:21:28.489
got open. So this hand is just like always free,

01:21:28.829 --> 01:21:32.310
you know, and I see it next next lifetime. When

01:21:32.310 --> 01:21:34.670
I come back, I'm going to I'm going to learn.

01:21:35.050 --> 01:21:39.409
Yeah. Is that a jazz thing like a jazz technique

01:21:39.409 --> 01:21:42.750
or no, just really talented and he can do. Yeah.

01:21:43.130 --> 01:21:48.159
Yeah. And his kit is huge. It's like a fucking

01:21:48.159 --> 01:21:51.859
percussive section. It's got wind chimes and,

01:21:51.859 --> 01:21:54.979
you know, cowbell and it's crazy what that dude

01:21:54.979 --> 01:21:59.760
has been. I think he's got like two bass drums,

01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:03.760
if I'm not mistaken, like three snares. Don't

01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:04.659
quote me on this. The drummer I'm most impressed

01:22:04.659 --> 01:22:07.640
with nowadays, you know, is Danny Carey. I mean,

01:22:07.739 --> 01:22:11.880
the guy's like he's he's technique. play anything

01:22:11.880 --> 01:22:14.300
that the off time stuff is like just fucking

01:22:14.300 --> 01:22:16.859
out of this world and then he has power too so

01:22:16.859 --> 01:22:20.000
it's like i don't know he seems to be the all

01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:23.689
-around guy to me at least yeah He's creative

01:22:23.689 --> 01:22:27.270
and he's oh my God. He's creative and he's also

01:22:27.270 --> 01:22:31.350
like delivering the like emotion of the yes of

01:22:31.350 --> 01:22:34.229
the creation. He's not just like a like a rabbit

01:22:34.229 --> 01:22:37.390
for it. I saw them in January 2020 before the

01:22:37.390 --> 01:22:40.350
lockdown started and in San Diego and there was

01:22:40.350 --> 01:22:43.390
the my most favorite show I've ever seen because

01:22:43.390 --> 01:22:45.270
Danny was kind of it wasn't front and center

01:22:45.270 --> 01:22:47.649
but he was like kind of center stage and then

01:22:47.649 --> 01:22:50.430
you know Maynard is just like slinking around

01:22:50.430 --> 01:22:52.409
in the background with no lights on him. I was

01:22:52.409 --> 01:22:54.789
like, now that's a fucking lead singer. Like,

01:22:55.069 --> 01:22:57.109
he doesn't need to be standing there spotlight

01:22:57.109 --> 01:22:59.649
on like, look at me, look at me. And I was like,

01:22:59.649 --> 01:23:01.689
he's just fucking back there doing his thing.

01:23:01.930 --> 01:23:04.989
He's like moving like fake cabinets around in

01:23:04.989 --> 01:23:07.329
the background. Like, what is he doing? It's

01:23:07.329 --> 01:23:12.590
great. And I can watch Danny. So purple. Purple

01:23:12.590 --> 01:23:15.229
leather pants, Chad, with no shirt and purple

01:23:15.229 --> 01:23:17.689
boa, not the lead singer look you were going

01:23:17.689 --> 01:23:21.739
for. I'm going to play this video first, Bobby,

01:23:21.760 --> 01:23:23.579
and then we're going to go to that one. I want

01:23:23.579 --> 01:23:26.600
to play one more of Teddy's videos for y 'all

01:23:26.600 --> 01:23:29.680
out there and go check out Teddy folks. He's

01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:34.319
a shirtless one. It's the second one that you

01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:36.100
made on that Capcom program. What it's going

01:23:36.100 --> 01:23:39.460
to be probably probably another one. Also, it's

01:23:39.460 --> 01:23:43.619
a surprise. Here we go. No. I remember it was

01:23:43.619 --> 01:24:29.729
a fun song. Oh, yes. Wait a minute, so was that

01:24:29.729 --> 01:24:32.590
a real song and then they made a parried of it

01:24:32.590 --> 01:24:34.630
in the movie or did they make someone make that

01:24:34.630 --> 01:24:37.449
song from the movie? That's a real song. That's

01:24:37.449 --> 01:24:41.390
a real song. You got the touch. I think it's

01:24:41.390 --> 01:24:45.510
Stan Bush. Okay, I love that song. I don't know

01:24:45.510 --> 01:24:47.930
why I love that song. And then if I was going

01:24:47.930 --> 01:24:51.250
to do another one, I would do. I probably will

01:24:51.250 --> 01:24:54.989
do it. It's no easy way out from Robert Tapper

01:24:54.989 --> 01:25:00.060
from the Rocky. Yes, Rocky four. I've watched

01:25:00.060 --> 01:25:03.800
endless YouTubes of that guy. He's still performing

01:25:03.800 --> 01:25:06.119
that song. That's cool. Like, I don't even know

01:25:06.119 --> 01:25:08.899
where I like. I want to. I want a drum for him

01:25:08.899 --> 01:25:12.899
on it because I just. Dude, when you when you

01:25:12.899 --> 01:25:16.279
do that video, let me send you the video of me

01:25:16.279 --> 01:25:18.239
pretending to sing it in the background. You

01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:24.000
just edit me in like I'm singing. It's a. Oh,

01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:26.100
my God. That song gets you pumped. I think it

01:25:26.100 --> 01:25:29.880
starts where Apollo dies. Rocky goes to get in

01:25:29.880 --> 01:25:31.880
his Lamborghini. He closes the door and is like,

01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:36.840
yeah, and the drums just come. Yeah. Let's go.

01:25:36.859 --> 01:25:40.159
I want to go fight Russians right now. I must

01:25:40.159 --> 01:25:44.439
break you. I must break you. So I want you guys

01:25:44.439 --> 01:25:46.380
to check this out. It's been out for a while,

01:25:46.420 --> 01:25:50.720
but I just saw it. And it's Tony Cornell, apparently

01:25:50.720 --> 01:25:53.300
Chris Cornell's daughter. Doing hunger strike

01:25:53.300 --> 01:25:55.859
and dude if it doesn't touch you in all the right

01:25:55.859 --> 01:25:59.479
places Hi, I'm Tony Cornell. I'm sitting in my

01:25:59.479 --> 01:26:02.000
dad's studio during this crazy time. I'm gonna

01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:03.880
sing one of my favorite songs for you guys I

01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:06.079
love you daddy, and I hope I do this in justice

01:28:03.850 --> 01:28:06.270
Anybody else want to marry her after that performance?

01:28:08.369 --> 01:28:12.210
Wow, dude, that is that's powerful. Heard that

01:28:12.210 --> 01:28:15.930
and I was like, God damn, girl, I was going hungry.

01:28:16.069 --> 01:28:18.689
Had to get me a slice of pizza after that one.

01:28:20.010 --> 01:28:21.949
Teddy, we're going to have some fun with you

01:28:21.949 --> 01:28:23.970
on in the beginning. The way we do this all the

01:28:23.970 --> 01:28:26.550
time is we introduce the audience to the guest.

01:28:26.590 --> 01:28:29.630
We always leave them wanting more. And we had

01:28:29.630 --> 01:28:30.869
a blast with you. So we're going to have you

01:28:30.869 --> 01:28:33.649
on in the future if you'll come on this. Pretty

01:28:33.649 --> 01:28:36.689
little show of ours. Yeah, I'd love to come back.

01:28:36.689 --> 01:28:39.529
Thanks for having me. I'd love to talk about

01:28:39.529 --> 01:28:42.850
all kinds of stuff, drums, psychedelics, all

01:28:42.850 --> 01:28:48.510
the all the stuff. And yeah, I appreciate it.

01:28:48.550 --> 01:28:51.250
Thank you so much. Yeah. So just so just as the

01:28:51.250 --> 01:28:53.130
conversation, we get to the cool, fun stuff.

01:28:53.189 --> 01:28:55.149
Now the audience knows you will save that for

01:28:55.149 --> 01:28:57.189
the next time. We'll get into the we're going

01:28:57.189 --> 01:28:58.989
to solve the world's problems on this show. We

01:28:58.989 --> 01:29:00.890
just didn't get to it. We have plenty of time

01:29:00.890 --> 01:29:04.270
to do it. So, yeah. Uh, that's Teddy Gibbons,

01:29:04.430 --> 01:29:06.390
man. Teddy, any, uh, any place you want to direct

01:29:06.390 --> 01:29:07.970
the audience if they want to check out some of

01:29:07.970 --> 01:29:10.090
your stuff or are you doing private life? I don't

01:29:10.090 --> 01:29:12.729
know. Maybe in my Instagram, I think it's theater

01:29:12.729 --> 01:29:15.930
underscore Gibbons, you know, come by, say hi

01:29:15.930 --> 01:29:17.590
or theater Gibbons underscore. I don't know.

01:29:17.649 --> 01:29:20.430
It's a monkey. I'm not really selling anything

01:29:20.430 --> 01:29:23.729
right now. So, um, yeah, I'm just, there you

01:29:23.729 --> 01:29:30.000
go. I'm just personality. Yeah. Personality and

01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:32.500
genuineness, hard to come by. So if they're selling

01:29:32.500 --> 01:29:34.720
it, pick it up, people. Teddy, man, thank you

01:29:34.720 --> 01:29:37.819
so much, dude. This will be thanks for chatting.

01:29:38.380 --> 01:29:42.359
He's got the one and only Teddy Gibbons, folks.

01:29:42.760 --> 01:29:45.119
Awesome, dude. Fun, dude. And yeah, we got so

01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:48.199
much more to talk to him about. So next time

01:29:48.199 --> 01:29:50.520
he's on, we'll get into the fun stuff. Conspiracies,

01:29:50.819 --> 01:29:55.859
aliens, all that jazz. We'll get Mr. Gracie's

01:29:55.859 --> 01:29:58.460
world if I if I might. because we know he's a

01:29:58.460 --> 01:30:01.779
crazy conspiracy theorist. Bobby, what's going

01:30:01.779 --> 01:30:03.760
on there, young man? Nothing. That was great.

01:30:03.899 --> 01:30:06.859
I love Teddy, man. I miss him. He's doing good.

01:30:07.760 --> 01:30:10.460
Bobby and Bobby and his commentary on the show.

01:30:10.579 --> 01:30:15.100
Got to love him, folks. Bababooey. That's that's

01:30:15.100 --> 01:30:17.420
your new name. Bababooey. Chad, we got a Bababooey.

01:30:19.239 --> 01:30:22.899
I always called him Rob Bobby Yankee as a kid.

01:30:23.300 --> 01:30:27.159
Well, no, but he is a jackass. Who's a jackass?

01:30:27.340 --> 01:30:30.659
So Bob, you know, they call Bob our son. They

01:30:30.659 --> 01:30:36.439
call him a horse to jackass. Oh, but I said you're

01:30:36.439 --> 01:30:41.199
a jackass. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. What's

01:30:41.199 --> 01:30:44.380
going on, Bobby? Anything in Bobby's looking

01:30:44.380 --> 01:30:47.260
at like, you know, how Teddy's into the healing

01:30:47.260 --> 01:30:49.560
and everything. I was looking at how they destroyed

01:30:49.560 --> 01:30:53.579
all the bills. You know, if you look back in

01:30:53.579 --> 01:30:57.619
history. You know, his story, the lies that they

01:30:57.619 --> 01:31:02.699
tell us. Here's just an example. Are you being

01:31:02.699 --> 01:31:06.399
coherent? All the bells, all the bell tower bells.

01:31:06.939 --> 01:31:10.020
Here's just an example. Example of all the bells.

01:31:10.180 --> 01:31:13.000
This is all about harmonics and keeping people

01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:15.479
in the right frequency. And this is why they

01:31:15.479 --> 01:31:18.300
destroyed them all. This is why they... Dude,

01:31:18.359 --> 01:31:20.850
I believe... I believe that's how they built

01:31:20.850 --> 01:31:23.630
the pyramids, is they use sound frequency to

01:31:23.630 --> 01:31:26.390
move those stones and made them basically as

01:31:26.390 --> 01:31:27.949
light as air. That's definitely on the table.

01:31:28.250 --> 01:31:34.550
It is on the table. I mean, I'm not fucking around,

01:31:34.609 --> 01:31:36.829
dude. I really think that they were in tune with

01:31:36.829 --> 01:31:39.250
frequency, whether it was sound, I think mostly

01:31:39.250 --> 01:31:41.489
sound, but even light frequency maybe, because

01:31:41.489 --> 01:31:45.569
if you look at some of the marble stones that

01:31:45.569 --> 01:31:49.779
they pulled out, and dragged fucking a thousand

01:31:49.779 --> 01:31:52.600
miles to put in the chamber. Can't even fit.

01:31:52.920 --> 01:31:56.359
Can't even fit the one inside the chamber. Can't

01:31:56.359 --> 01:32:00.560
fit. Well, well, not only that, but if you so

01:32:00.560 --> 01:32:02.720
if you look at where they got these out, like

01:32:02.720 --> 01:32:04.479
the quarries that they got them out from, it

01:32:04.479 --> 01:32:06.760
looks like because some are left there because

01:32:06.760 --> 01:32:08.279
like they were had a crack in them or something.

01:32:08.300 --> 01:32:10.460
So they left them. It looks like an ice cream

01:32:10.460 --> 01:32:14.300
scoop went in and fucking scooped out like like

01:32:14.300 --> 01:32:22.439
like mud almost. If you could hit anything at

01:32:22.439 --> 01:32:25.479
the resonant frequency that it's at, you could

01:32:25.479 --> 01:32:30.180
pretty much, yeah, you can move atoms, you know?

01:32:30.520 --> 01:32:32.140
That's pretty much what they were doing, probably,

01:32:32.300 --> 01:32:37.399
you know? I just found out on a quantum level,

01:32:38.460 --> 01:32:42.340
nothing ever touches. So two atoms can't touch.

01:32:42.399 --> 01:32:44.399
They actually repel each other when they get

01:32:44.399 --> 01:32:47.199
close. force you feel when you're touching something

01:32:47.199 --> 01:32:50.199
is actually the repelling of the adder. Ass on

01:32:50.199 --> 01:32:52.960
the. So it's really on the seat. You're not really

01:32:52.960 --> 01:32:56.340
touching it. Hovering. No, it's being pushed.

01:32:56.460 --> 01:32:58.539
So what you're feeling is the friction between

01:32:58.539 --> 01:33:00.899
the not touching and telling you on the quantum

01:33:00.899 --> 01:33:03.960
level. Yeah. On a quantum level, Adam's 99 percent

01:33:03.960 --> 01:33:06.899
space is that. Yeah. Yeah. It's empty space.

01:33:07.239 --> 01:33:10.840
Yeah. Right. Fucking quantum level, my. This

01:33:10.840 --> 01:33:16.239
is like fucking 90 about about Google. They actually

01:33:16.239 --> 01:33:19.039
shut down their quantum research because of what

01:33:19.039 --> 01:33:23.300
happened with the parallel to the parallel universes

01:33:23.300 --> 01:33:26.380
they're accessing. They said that is they shut

01:33:26.380 --> 01:33:29.000
it down because they don't know what the potentiality

01:33:29.000 --> 01:33:32.619
of what they're messing with is actually. Yes.

01:33:33.439 --> 01:33:35.560
We spoke about this on the one show that you

01:33:35.560 --> 01:33:40.310
were sick, that you were sick. Google was there.

01:33:40.390 --> 01:33:41.909
It came up with that quantum chip or whatever.

01:33:42.170 --> 01:33:46.310
And the problems that it was solving, it was

01:33:46.310 --> 01:33:49.770
solving them so fast and using power that is

01:33:49.770 --> 01:33:52.130
not in this universe that it had to be drawing

01:33:52.130 --> 01:33:55.149
power and computing power from an alternate universe.

01:33:55.569 --> 01:33:58.289
That's fucking crazy. Wait a minute. What? And

01:33:58.289 --> 01:34:00.569
they just said it like, yeah, they just said

01:34:00.569 --> 01:34:03.630
it like it's not. Bobby, look this up. CIA. It's

01:34:03.630 --> 01:34:08.569
on CIA .gov, but. The CIA in like the 80s or

01:34:08.569 --> 01:34:11.250
90s basically said that we're living in a simulation.

01:34:14.270 --> 01:34:20.989
What is that? Yeah, that's not me. Fired. Yeah,

01:34:21.010 --> 01:34:25.529
I saw that that CIA documents, too. It shows

01:34:25.529 --> 01:34:27.449
a brain and everything. Hold on one second. Let

01:34:27.449 --> 01:34:32.930
me find it. I got it. You got it already. All

01:34:32.930 --> 01:34:36.270
right. Yeah. But I wanted to see if I I'll share

01:34:36.270 --> 01:34:37.770
it, but it's not going to it's not going to do

01:34:37.770 --> 01:34:41.829
anything because it won't let me select it and

01:34:41.829 --> 01:34:45.930
summarize it. It's called Hemisync. It was called

01:34:45.930 --> 01:34:52.750
Hemisync and CIA slash Hemisync in Google. You'll

01:34:52.750 --> 01:34:57.250
be able to find out more about it. No, yeah,

01:34:57.250 --> 01:35:01.270
I just wanted to. Why is it not showing? Oh,

01:35:01.310 --> 01:35:04.779
is that to do this? There we go. Boom, shaka

01:35:04.779 --> 01:35:07.840
laka. Yeah, I wanted to remember how I selected

01:35:07.840 --> 01:35:10.439
all the one time and then I could summarize it.

01:35:10.640 --> 01:35:13.420
But this is yeah, this is a Web document. It

01:35:13.420 --> 01:35:17.239
won't let me select all. It's not like I could.

01:35:18.300 --> 01:35:21.520
Yeah, but it's legit, you know, like they've

01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:24.399
been doing this has been going on for 100 years

01:35:24.399 --> 01:35:27.680
for the past 100 years, you know, and a lot longer

01:35:27.680 --> 01:35:33.670
than it's June 1983, June of 83. Almost a full

01:35:33.670 --> 01:35:36.909
year after I was birthed. Bobby, shut it off.

01:35:38.149 --> 01:35:44.369
Oh, shoot. Holy shit. Anyway, call me him. Yeah.

01:35:44.930 --> 01:35:48.590
Probably because you owe him something. Do you

01:35:48.590 --> 01:35:50.729
have anything else for the audience there? I

01:35:50.729 --> 01:35:54.149
want to show this also. It's the inside of a

01:35:54.149 --> 01:36:02.390
church. And if you know, it does. Hello. Can

01:36:02.390 --> 01:36:05.890
you hear it? Yeah, I hear anything. No, you're

01:36:05.890 --> 01:36:07.869
not sharing it. Oh, hold on, bro. I'm sorry.

01:36:08.569 --> 01:36:11.550
I thought he said share. He'll figure it out

01:36:11.550 --> 01:36:19.810
one of these days, folks. This? Schumann generators.

01:36:20.510 --> 01:36:23.069
Look, hold on. Let me rewind it to where it shows

01:36:23.069 --> 01:36:26.909
it. See? I believe our hidden pass has unlocked

01:36:26.909 --> 01:36:30.520
the secret. As you looks like a penis curled

01:36:30.520 --> 01:36:37.479
up Kind of like the labyrinth of this world shoe

01:36:37.479 --> 01:36:40.600
in residence generators another frequency generators

01:36:40.600 --> 01:36:45.720
I Mean you could look at our shuman residents.

01:36:45.720 --> 01:36:54.640
This is going crazy right now If you look at

01:36:54.640 --> 01:36:57.380
the Schumann residence now, it's going crazy.

01:36:57.880 --> 01:37:02.340
Like from all the people, like all the energy.

01:37:05.180 --> 01:37:08.420
Bottom line, we all know that the pyramids are

01:37:08.420 --> 01:37:14.180
older than they say. And you could tell by the

01:37:14.180 --> 01:37:16.600
way that some of the older pyramids are built

01:37:16.600 --> 01:37:18.760
better than the newer pyramids because they lost

01:37:18.760 --> 01:37:22.579
some of the technology in between. Yeah, and

01:37:22.579 --> 01:37:25.720
and and they have fissures in them from rain

01:37:25.720 --> 01:37:28.840
pouring on them for thousands of years. And it

01:37:28.840 --> 01:37:31.500
didn't rain in that part of the world until like

01:37:31.500 --> 01:37:34.319
fucking eleven thousand B .C. So their timeline

01:37:34.319 --> 01:37:36.739
is way off. They don't want to admit it. They

01:37:36.739 --> 01:37:39.439
don't want to admit that a fucking asteroid probably

01:37:39.439 --> 01:37:42.760
hit here around twelve thousand years ago leveled

01:37:42.760 --> 01:37:46.180
the entire place. The younger drives go back.

01:37:46.239 --> 01:37:50.960
Yeah, dates back to that. Yeah. Yeah, that an

01:37:50.960 --> 01:37:54.600
underground city with fucking with with art in

01:37:54.600 --> 01:37:56.460
it that they're saying hunter gatherers did,

01:37:56.640 --> 01:37:58.939
you know, like it's etched in the fucking in

01:37:58.939 --> 01:38:02.840
the in the. Yeah, they had ours in our agriculture.

01:38:02.920 --> 01:38:06.800
They had to have had agriculture because to have

01:38:06.800 --> 01:38:08.659
that amount of people, you would not be able

01:38:08.659 --> 01:38:11.659
to sustain that amount of people with just hunter

01:38:11.659 --> 01:38:15.319
gathering. Yeah, it's definitely I think it was

01:38:15.319 --> 01:38:17.260
definitely was an advanced civilization before.

01:38:18.120 --> 01:38:21.039
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and they know that and

01:38:21.039 --> 01:38:23.060
they don't want to freak everybody out inherited

01:38:23.060 --> 01:38:25.640
the pyramids and the and the Sphinx I mean, I

01:38:25.640 --> 01:38:30.079
agree Robert shock was the The the doctor who

01:38:30.079 --> 01:38:32.479
who figured out that you know the markings on

01:38:32.479 --> 01:38:34.539
the enclosure of the Sphinx and the Sphinx itself

01:38:34.539 --> 01:38:37.560
is from water like And then yeah, it hasn't that

01:38:37.560 --> 01:38:41.399
much rain. Yeah, he's a plateau until back before

01:38:41.399 --> 01:38:44.399
12 ,000 years 12 ,000 years ago. Yeah And then

01:38:44.399 --> 01:38:46.340
it had to rain for thousands of years to make

01:38:46.340 --> 01:38:49.739
those fissures. So exactly. Exactly. Also, the

01:38:49.739 --> 01:38:53.479
Grand Canyon was a big, big, big thing in the

01:38:53.479 --> 01:38:58.640
nineteen hundreds. There was a expedition by

01:38:58.640 --> 01:39:01.539
the Smithsonian where he said he found like Egyptian

01:39:01.539 --> 01:39:05.979
artifacts. Right. And I was like, yeah, yeah.

01:39:06.780 --> 01:39:09.399
And now you can't even go near it. Or if you

01:39:09.399 --> 01:39:12.760
go near it, there'll be like a Blackhawk helicopters

01:39:12.760 --> 01:39:15.500
flying around above you. Like they'll be watching

01:39:15.500 --> 01:39:21.380
you somewhere in the Grand Canyon. Yeah. So there's

01:39:21.380 --> 01:39:23.460
a spot in the Grand Canyon where they don't allow.

01:39:23.539 --> 01:39:25.699
Yeah, there's a lot of spots. You can't go anywhere

01:39:25.699 --> 01:39:28.300
in the lower parts of the Grand Canyon. You can

01:39:28.300 --> 01:39:30.600
only go like where the glass, you know, and where

01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:32.960
they have the little scene and like the view.

01:39:33.340 --> 01:39:38.880
You can't really. Well, they do some expeditions

01:39:38.880 --> 01:39:40.819
down in there, but it's all controlled and you're

01:39:40.819 --> 01:39:43.500
with a party and stuff. But yeah, everywhere

01:39:43.500 --> 01:39:46.939
in the Grand Canyon, you're not. Yeah. The reason

01:39:46.939 --> 01:39:48.939
they say, the reason they say is they don't want

01:39:48.939 --> 01:39:51.279
people to get hurt. But I mean, if you're signing

01:39:51.279 --> 01:39:54.020
off your life on something, a piece of paper,

01:39:54.079 --> 01:39:56.920
you're signing it away. Like they, they know

01:39:56.920 --> 01:39:58.960
they don't want people to discover whatever's

01:39:58.960 --> 01:40:01.260
down there. You know, I guarantee that it's more

01:40:01.260 --> 01:40:05.750
down there. What do you think that the Egyptians

01:40:05.750 --> 01:40:09.489
have been coming here for a long time other other

01:40:09.489 --> 01:40:11.970
races have been coming here for a long time This

01:40:11.970 --> 01:40:15.710
is no new world or new new world. I don't think

01:40:15.710 --> 01:40:19.670
this is a new world. I Heard the Native Americans

01:40:19.670 --> 01:40:23.770
were Egyptians anyway The megalithic structures

01:40:23.770 --> 01:40:27.229
compared to Egypt and then you know in Cusco

01:40:27.229 --> 01:40:32.319
and in Peru all those giant walls that are built

01:40:32.319 --> 01:40:34.779
with gigantic freaking stones that have multiple

01:40:34.779 --> 01:40:36.359
angles cut in them and they look like they're

01:40:36.359 --> 01:40:37.939
almost melted together. You can't put a piece

01:40:37.939 --> 01:40:41.939
of paper between the joints. It's amazing. How

01:40:41.939 --> 01:40:46.920
the fuck did they do that? And even other pyramids

01:40:46.920 --> 01:40:49.680
that we think are mountains now because all vegetation

01:40:49.680 --> 01:40:52.180
has grown over them and shit, but they're actually

01:40:52.180 --> 01:40:55.199
fucking built structures that have vegetation

01:40:55.199 --> 01:40:57.140
grown on top. Like in Mexico has them and shit.

01:40:57.310 --> 01:41:00.689
I watched Graham Hancock thing on it and he you

01:41:00.689 --> 01:41:03.390
know, China has the most pyramids in the world,

01:41:03.390 --> 01:41:08.329
actually. Right. Yeah. Isn't there one of the

01:41:08.329 --> 01:41:09.829
one of the one of the burial mounds for one of

01:41:09.829 --> 01:41:12.670
the old emperors is so full of mercury. No one's

01:41:12.670 --> 01:41:14.250
going to no one wants to go near it. It's like,

01:41:14.609 --> 01:41:18.029
yeah. Yeah. But they filled it all with mercury.

01:41:18.189 --> 01:41:20.369
So if anyone tries to break in like a fucking

01:41:20.369 --> 01:41:23.390
mercury poisoned. Yeah, it's like a trap. Yeah.

01:41:23.470 --> 01:41:27.880
Really? Yeah. What's what is he hiding? Treasure

01:41:27.880 --> 01:41:33.380
beyond little rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice,

01:41:33.380 --> 01:41:34.779
rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice,

01:41:34.779 --> 01:41:35.300
rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice,

01:41:35.300 --> 01:41:36.699
rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice,

01:41:36.699 --> 01:41:37.039
rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice,

01:41:37.039 --> 01:41:37.039
rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice,

01:41:37.039 --> 01:41:37.560
rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice,

01:41:37.560 --> 01:41:38.340
rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice,

01:41:38.340 --> 01:41:38.340
rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice,

01:41:38.340 --> 01:41:38.960
rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice,

01:41:38.960 --> 01:41:42.739
rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice,

01:41:42.739 --> 01:41:42.739
rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice,

01:41:42.739 --> 01:41:48.380
rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, rice,

01:41:48.399 --> 01:41:55.680
rice, rice, rice, rice, rice, I have more fun

01:41:55.680 --> 01:41:57.760
with Teddy. He's a cool character. We're going

01:41:57.760 --> 01:42:02.319
to have some recurring characters on here and

01:42:02.319 --> 01:42:05.260
there. We've got some cool guests coming. Yeah,

01:42:05.340 --> 01:42:06.899
we're switching the show up, man. It's the gracious

01:42:06.899 --> 01:42:09.800
two. We do what we want to do. Like we were saying

01:42:09.800 --> 01:42:12.279
earlier, we've got to get the South African guys

01:42:12.279 --> 01:42:14.520
back on because now Trump is shining a light

01:42:14.520 --> 01:42:16.680
on what's going on in South Africa. Most people

01:42:16.680 --> 01:42:18.220
in this country have no idea what's going on

01:42:18.220 --> 01:42:22.020
there. I mean, literally, they are murdering

01:42:22.199 --> 01:42:24.920
and removing white farmers from their land just

01:42:24.920 --> 01:42:31.380
because they're white. It's fucking crazy. Well,

01:42:31.500 --> 01:42:33.720
I think Cashel talked about this. They're removing

01:42:33.720 --> 01:42:36.819
white farmers from their land, giving it to black

01:42:36.819 --> 01:42:38.899
people that don't know how to farm, so their

01:42:38.899 --> 01:42:42.779
food supply is going to shit. That's a very smart

01:42:42.779 --> 01:42:45.800
thing to do. Sounds good. Yeah. Let's do that.

01:42:46.010 --> 01:42:48.289
Sounds like something that has been doing for

01:42:48.289 --> 01:42:50.430
the past four years. Well, exactly. You got Bill

01:42:50.430 --> 01:42:52.850
Gates buying all the fucking farmland and Chinese.

01:42:53.810 --> 01:42:57.229
Fucking insane. Whatever. Maybe we'll do what

01:42:57.229 --> 01:42:59.109
we're going to do. The Democrats keep complaining

01:42:59.109 --> 01:43:02.350
about the price of eggs. The Biden administration

01:43:02.350 --> 01:43:07.909
called C -U -L -L -E -D, I believe, 100 million

01:43:07.909 --> 01:43:11.170
chickens while they were in office because of

01:43:11.170 --> 01:43:13.369
bird flu. So that's why your eggs are so fucking

01:43:13.369 --> 01:43:17.600
expensive. That crazy is like $12 for a dozen

01:43:17.600 --> 01:43:24.659
months. Yeah. So you heard it here, folks. Biden's

01:43:24.659 --> 01:43:27.260
the reason why your eggs are so fucking high.

01:43:27.260 --> 01:43:32.199
God damn it. The calling. Yeah. Chickens didn't

01:43:32.199 --> 01:43:34.979
fucking help. I remember the days when we throw

01:43:34.979 --> 01:43:37.479
eggs and throw toilet paper at people's houses.

01:43:37.699 --> 01:43:40.180
Now that's something you want to keep around.

01:43:41.550 --> 01:43:45.210
He's guilty for normalizing sniffing children's

01:43:45.210 --> 01:43:49.189
hair. He's guilty for fucking crimes against

01:43:49.189 --> 01:43:54.409
humanity. He's guilty for raping his daughter,

01:43:55.010 --> 01:43:56.970
probably, or something weird, molesting her somehow.

01:43:58.409 --> 01:44:04.609
It's weird. It is. It is. It is. I'm surprised

01:44:04.609 --> 01:44:06.869
he didn't pardon himself. I'm really surprised

01:44:06.869 --> 01:44:12.340
about that. That's weird. Can you do that? Yeah.

01:44:12.680 --> 01:44:14.420
I mean, can you do that? Did he do whatever else

01:44:14.420 --> 01:44:16.920
he did? I mean, yeah. You know, I mean, he didn't

01:44:16.920 --> 01:44:19.600
even know what he was doing. So did he actually

01:44:19.600 --> 01:44:21.380
pardon those people or did he just sign the fucking

01:44:21.380 --> 01:44:22.760
pardons? I mean, I'm sure he knew what he was

01:44:22.760 --> 01:44:27.920
doing with his family. Bill says premier only

01:44:27.920 --> 01:44:30.460
fan studio coming to York. Yeah, that's right.

01:44:30.479 --> 01:44:33.300
He learned about the studio in Miami where they

01:44:33.300 --> 01:44:36.140
have it's like an only fans girl studio and they

01:44:36.140 --> 01:44:40.859
make like 15 million dollars or some shit. Dude,

01:44:41.079 --> 01:44:44.979
I didn't tell you so. I came up with I came up

01:44:44.979 --> 01:44:48.039
with a five year plan based on my comedy and

01:44:48.039 --> 01:44:51.899
this podcast, and part of it was having the only

01:44:51.899 --> 01:44:54.500
fans mansion like the Playboy Mansion, but it

01:44:54.500 --> 01:44:57.640
was it's all different. The left wing is like

01:44:57.640 --> 01:45:00.039
for me and my people, the right wing is all for

01:45:00.039 --> 01:45:02.680
only fans models and each room is a different

01:45:02.680 --> 01:45:05.119
fucking theme. You got fucking Hawaiian themes,

01:45:05.340 --> 01:45:07.739
fucking aquarium theme. And these girls come

01:45:07.739 --> 01:45:10.470
in. They don't have to pay to fucking use them.

01:45:10.569 --> 01:45:13.449
They just film their content there. And I get

01:45:13.449 --> 01:45:15.869
to watch fucking naked chicks walk around. You

01:45:15.869 --> 01:45:18.329
just get a little bit. You get a little bit percentage.

01:45:18.329 --> 01:45:20.529
You know, you're like five percent, ten percent.

01:45:22.229 --> 01:45:26.550
That's it. Only Fans Mansion, baby. Yeah, I heard

01:45:26.550 --> 01:45:28.430
that a little bit ago. David Schwimmer, where

01:45:28.430 --> 01:45:31.430
he plays a doctor that he plays the doctor in

01:45:31.430 --> 01:45:33.729
real life that actually started doing all the

01:45:33.729 --> 01:45:37.489
breast implants in L .A. Back in like the 80s.

01:45:38.229 --> 01:45:41.689
Breast implants game thing, but he he made fucking

01:45:41.689 --> 01:45:43.369
millions of dollars, but he had this big mansion

01:45:43.369 --> 01:45:46.550
where all the chicks were hanging out and Then

01:45:46.550 --> 01:45:49.090
they started they were using silicone. Obviously

01:45:49.090 --> 01:45:52.590
just that's that's all the all the original Implants

01:45:52.590 --> 01:45:55.029
were silicone and then the silicone sort of leeching

01:45:55.029 --> 01:45:56.710
out and then started people started getting sick

01:45:56.710 --> 01:45:59.130
women started getting sick and so and then his

01:45:59.130 --> 01:46:02.260
whole business went away and then He fucking

01:46:02.260 --> 01:46:04.439
brought it back by removing them and putting

01:46:04.439 --> 01:46:06.680
in slating and so he made a whole lot of whole

01:46:06.680 --> 01:46:08.880
lot more money I think it was called boob man

01:46:08.880 --> 01:46:10.100
or something like that. It was a great movie.

01:46:10.100 --> 01:46:14.000
David Schwimmer Yeah, it was that uh, dr. Fauci

01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:17.560
jr. Yeah. No David Schwimmer is not a bad actor.

01:46:17.600 --> 01:46:21.859
He's in the new goosebumps Movie, I think. Oh

01:46:21.859 --> 01:46:25.060
really? Yeah, he was good and a brother still

01:46:25.060 --> 01:46:27.479
Like I wanted to hate him. He was so well in

01:46:27.479 --> 01:46:29.619
band of brothers. He'd like to like fuck him

01:46:31.010 --> 01:46:35.550
He was wonderful in saving Ryan's privates, the

01:46:35.550 --> 01:46:37.529
gay porno that I watched. Yeah, Band of Brothers

01:46:37.529 --> 01:46:44.329
that he was in. Not Saving Ryan's privates. Get

01:46:44.329 --> 01:46:48.010
your fucking mind out of the gutter, John. No,

01:46:48.229 --> 01:46:51.890
no, no, no. All right, folks. Bobby, you want

01:46:51.890 --> 01:46:53.189
to say goodbye to the audience before I shut

01:46:53.189 --> 01:46:55.029
you down? Bye, audience. Thank you, everybody.

01:46:57.029 --> 01:46:59.909
The one and only Rob Bobby Yankee. Baba booey.

01:47:00.620 --> 01:47:03.119
For the gracious audience out there, our Baba

01:47:03.119 --> 01:47:09.279
Bowie, the young Baba Bowie. What else? We might

01:47:09.279 --> 01:47:11.840
do Instagram this week. We might not. We'll let

01:47:11.840 --> 01:47:14.960
you folks know. We do have bonus shows coming

01:47:14.960 --> 01:47:16.760
up. We got a lot of fun guests coming up. Oh,

01:47:16.760 --> 01:47:20.819
next week, I think, is a fun sexual show. Let

01:47:20.819 --> 01:47:26.739
me see who the guest is. What month are we in,

01:47:26.899 --> 01:47:28.779
Chad? We're in February now. February. Goddamn.

01:47:30.350 --> 01:47:33.810
No. So next week is Parks McGregor, another podcaster.

01:47:34.170 --> 01:47:36.949
The following week is Miss Gigi Campbell. Try

01:47:36.949 --> 01:47:39.149
to get her on forever. She better not cancel.

01:47:40.949 --> 01:47:44.750
Right. Oh, we got we got till March 11th to have

01:47:44.750 --> 01:47:47.329
this girl come on who wants to talk about sexual

01:47:47.329 --> 01:47:51.689
healing. Dying here, which he has to say. I'll

01:47:51.689 --> 01:47:55.920
see how creepy I could get on that show if. If

01:47:55.920 --> 01:47:59.159
she has to get a restraining order against me

01:47:59.159 --> 01:48:01.159
or not, we'll see, folks. You never know where

01:48:01.159 --> 01:48:06.720
I'll go. That's how we do it, man. Whether real

01:48:06.720 --> 01:48:11.100
life or fake life. IRL, IRL. But we appreciate

01:48:11.100 --> 01:48:14.100
you guys. Please like, share, subscribe, subscribe

01:48:14.100 --> 01:48:16.659
and follow. And spread the word. Tell your friends.

01:48:16.840 --> 01:48:20.859
Whatever. Spread the word. Start a GoFundMe page

01:48:20.859 --> 01:48:23.850
for us. Speaking of that, I got a fucking follow

01:48:23.850 --> 01:48:26.670
up with that guy about the new merch. So I haven't

01:48:26.670 --> 01:48:30.270
heard anything. Yes. So tpublic .com for now

01:48:30.270 --> 01:48:32.569
slash the gracious two. And we got another merch

01:48:32.569 --> 01:48:34.850
site coming up. If you want to start to go fund

01:48:34.850 --> 01:48:37.949
me for us, you could do that. If you want to

01:48:37.949 --> 01:48:41.250
send us food stamps, we'll take that too. We

01:48:41.250 --> 01:48:43.869
love you guys. Gracious audience. Keep it real.