The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 078 - Lilies of David

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We are live, Mr. Gracey, what's going on? Hey,

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hey, special edition of the gracious two today.

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Fuck. Yeah, man. A lot of crazy shit happened

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last night. Oh, my God. Yeah, and predictably,

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the left's going, Trump's supportin' puppet,

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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I guess I could

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say predictably, we will support Trump, but we're

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supporting, you know, America. Yeah. We're supporting

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not having World War III. We're supporting ending

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a war so that no more people are getting killed.

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That's what we're supporting. You can support,

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you can be warmongers on the left and support

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whatever anti -Trump shit you want to support.

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But the fact is you're supporting the war continuing,

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which means you're a warmonger piece of shit.

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Yeah. Take that lefties. There is no excuse.

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I mean, it's ridiculous. You kind of sound like

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a lefty from 20 years ago when they believed

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in not going to war and fucking all that jazz.

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So I was saying earlier, it's like what happened

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to the Democrat Party? They've become the party

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of war. like they literally support a war because

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they've been told to by the media we have to

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save Ukraine and blah blah blah blah blah and

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Putin's a dictator yeah Putin's a shitty dictator

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we get it okay started the war but he started

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the war because he was prompted and and goaded

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into starting that war like it's been a solid

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march of NATO to his front door since 1992 when

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he was given When Russia was given assurance,

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he wasn't in charge then, but Russia was given

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assurances when the Soviet Union fell that NATO

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would not go past Germany. And where is it today?

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It's right on his front door after red line,

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after red line, after red line was crossed. And

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then at the beginning of this war, all he wanted

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was in writing from us, Europe and NATO that

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Ukraine would never become part of NATO. And

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they wouldn't give that to him. He said that

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was his red line. That's when he invaded. Right.

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And here we are. And now the left doesn't have

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the decency to allow Trump because they're anti

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-Trump anything to fucking stop it. Well, I just

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want to ask the American people, how would they

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feel if Russia was fucking, you know, move in

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bases into fucking Canada? Exactly. Exactly.

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Mexico. You wouldn't put up with it for one fucking

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iota and then fucking half. Half -Pint GI Joe

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comes into the Oval Office and disrespects America,

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the Oval Office, President Trump, and Vice President

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JD Vance to their faces, ungrateful about the

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amount of money. We've given them $177 billion

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fucking dollars. We're not obligated to protect

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them. They're not part of NATO. And this little

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fucking bastard comes into the Oval Office, smug,

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defiant, arms crossed, trying to relitigate what's

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happened. It's like, it doesn't matter what happened.

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You're trying to put a deal on the table where

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we do what we get 50 % of their rare earth minerals

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and we stopped the war. Easy. Sounds good to

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me. And he comes in there, defying about it.

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I mean, he's been defined the whole time. Uh,

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the secretary of treasury openly gay, Scott set,

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who is the first openly engaged secretary of

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treasury. And I make a big deal about that because

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the left always calls Trump anti -gay. Uh, that's

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the worst anti -gay person I've ever seen. But

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anyway, just because you don't blow guys doesn't

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mean you're anti -gay. Just how to put that out

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there. So he had a meeting with, with half, half

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pint GI Joe at in Keeve about 10 days ago. And

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he was defiant then about the deal. He wouldn't

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sign it. It's like, why? Why? Hello. And then

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all the sheep on the left are like, Trump's a

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hell of a disaster. Trump's a poopy puppet. Blah,

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blah, blah. It's like, no. Trump's trying to

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stop the war. That's what he said from the beginning.

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100. And what's the difference between China

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and Russia at this point? We do all this business

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with China, and everyone's anti -Russia. It's

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like, yeah, he started the war. We get it. But

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why can't we just have normal? Why can't we have

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diplomacy with Russia to stop the war? What's

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wrong with that? What's wrong with having diplomacy

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with your enemies? There's nothing wrong with

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it. Opening up lines of communication should

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have been done from the fucking beginning. It

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should have been done under Biden's administration.

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Well, Biden was too weak to fucking do it for

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a hundred. Many less mentally on a diplomacy,

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you know, the ability just to sit in a room and

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have a conversation with somebody. He can't do

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it. Do it, Putin. Come on now. You just can't

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go in there. Yeah, I mean, he probably would

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have fucking invaded us had he got on the phone

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with fucking Biden. It's just, it was just crazy

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to have that lack of leadership running this

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country for fucking four years and people okay

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with it. And like, you just saw the writing on

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the wall. The ship was going down and fucking

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everybody's just hanging on fucking like, yeah,

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baby Titanic style. Yeah. They have all these

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liberal European leaders, you know, siding with

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Zelinsky, blah, blah, blah. It's like Europe

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for too long has district. They don't like, they

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don't like America. They hate America. They disrespect

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us, but they expect us to pay for everything.

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Yeah, they like us. That's the way it's been.

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They like us to come in and clean up their bullshit.

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Exactly. Yeah. You know, the smug on that fucking

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what do you call them? Half point one. Half -Pint

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GI Joe. Half -Pint GI Joe. The smug on that motherfucker

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to sit there and talk to us about we're separated

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by an ocean and we're not feeling shut the fuck

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up, dude. Basically threatened us. He basically

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threatened us. Right. With that's what Trump

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went off the handle. He's like, no, no, no. You

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don't tell us how we feel. Felt good to have

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a real fucking leader there putting somebody

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in their place like how you don't tell us how

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we're going to feel. I love they did that on

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live TV. I fucking love that they did it on live

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TV because if that would have happened behind

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closed doors, well, even if it did happen on

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live TV and after I watched it and then saw it

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on X and you know, all the all the clips, a little

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thing pops up on my phone, Apple News, Zelinsky

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leaves the White House. It's like, no, bitch,

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he got kicked the fuck out of the White House.

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He didn't leave. He got thrown out like a midget,

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like a motherfucking midget. Uh, that would have

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been cool if they did that actually Velcroed

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his ass up and threw him on a fucking dart board.

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Have you seen that meme from, uh, when they're

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tossing midgets in a Wolf of Wall Street? No.

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Yeah. Somebody put Zelinsky space on that, on

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that whole scene and they throw them. Oh, that's

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great. That's great. We got to get back to that,

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dude. That was back in the day when we weren't

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communist. We could drink and drive. We can fucking

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throw midgets against walls. What happened to

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America, dude? We went downhill for some reason.

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The lefties took over and filled our minds with

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propaganda paid for by USAID. That's what happened.

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Yeah. Who the fuck knew, though? You know, who

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thought that America was a big propaganda machine

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like that? I mean, I kind of thought, yeah, I

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thought we were living in a free society. Fucking.

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But no, I'm paid for by Pfizer. Good old Obama.

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Yeah. Talked about it before. Yep. Legal to propagandize

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the U S public. And here we are. Just look at

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us. It's amazing that you could do something

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like that, you know, under your administration

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and be looked at as okay. Like, no, like the

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left loves them. Yeah. I wonder why. Well, because

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they've been propagandized. I love them. This,

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I mean, they're literally brainwashed people.

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They, and they think we're brainwashed because

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we support Trump and he's a dictator and blah,

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blah, blah. Everything they say about him is

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fucking false. It's just crazy. We just let them

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get loud. Well, that's all they do is cry. They

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don't, they don't have any, they don't have any

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policies or any ways to fix things. They just

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bitch and moan about everything. Yeah, exactly.

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Uh, so the audience knows we're going to have

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another flat earth. They're coming on the show,

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uh, coming up flat earth. Dave, we're going to

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have them coming on with Bobby, uh, flat earth

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days where I can, uh, be a little up to speed

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on them. I just, I just can't wait to talk to

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somebody who, I mean, we have a producer on our

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show who believes it, but I just find it strange

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that somebody could fucking believe the earth

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is flat, man. It's absurd. There's a lot of them

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out there. There is. I mean, so what happens

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when we go to Mars and they look back at earth

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and see that it's round? Are they going to be,

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uh, you know, they just, they just say every

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picture they see is fake. So, you know, I don't

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know unless you send them up into space. for

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them to see themselves with their own eyes. And

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did you see that image from Mars, that fucking

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rectangular? It's almost square shaped. Yes.

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Elon and Elon and Joe and Joe Rogan were talking

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about that. Elon was just on Joe Rogan. I believe

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it was great. Great episode. Yeah. I think I

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got to watch it again because there was so much

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set in there that I think I needed to fucking

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digest it again. But oh, well. I learned two

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new terms from Elon. I always learned terms from

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Elon, but he, what was it? Weaponized empathy.

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That's how we got here. That's how, like you

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said earlier, how do we get here with the left?

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Everyone has empathy. Most people have empathy,

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right? The leftist, the Democrat elites have

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weaponized empathy. Right? So you feel bad about

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people coming over the border and they look,

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you know, they're silent seekers and they're

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just trying to find a better way of life. That's

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not what happened. They're invaders and they

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were allowed in to change votes. Right? That's

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what we all know that. Just look at California

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for God's sake. California has led in more illegals

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over the years. They have the right to vote and

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they're a full Democrat super majority state

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and it's falling the fuck apart. Okay. Yes. Weaponized

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empathy leads to suicidal empathy where you're

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so empathetic to something that's killing you.

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You can't even see it. Hey now. Hence again,

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the state of California. Yeah. The fact that

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that's what that's what's going on. The fact

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that they Can't have like their power grid is

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not like sustainable as it is and they want everybody

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to be on fucking electric cars by 2030. That's

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just one little thing. Exactly. Yeah, right.

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But that's huge. It's like, what are you doing

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to fucking make that? So the fact that they have,

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you know, I don't know what their deficit is

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here, but it's huge. It's billions of dollars

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and they want to give a 9 .5 billion dollars

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to illegal health care. People like the citizens

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of California don't get free health care. The

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illegals of California get free healthcare, paid

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for by our taxes to the tune where we're completely

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in fucking debt, and Newsom is setting up a $50

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million fund to fight Trump, meanwhile at the

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same breath as going to DC and asking for $40

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billion from the federal government. I mean,

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that's how fucking nuts it is. I'm surprised

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there's fucking people still living in your state,

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dude. Like, what the fuck? There should be a

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mass exodus from California. There has been.

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There has been. Yeah, but not enough, dude. Not

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enough. Like, well, I mean, listen, it is there's

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parts of it that are really great to be here,

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but I wish I could leave, but can't right now.

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Well, you know, it's they should just take all

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the legal people out of California and fucking

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put all the illegals there and have that be a

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fucking illegal state and just have at it, folks.

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Well, I don't know. It's not it's not economically

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sustainable. I mean, this the state's going to

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go bankrupt and there's not going to be any bail

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on the mouth. What's going to happen then? I

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mean, it's going to turn to shit and it is turned

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to shit. It's going to be worse. I mean, 15 billion

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dollars on a fucking high speed rail that's there

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hasn't 17 years hasn't been one piece of track

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laid like what? Wow But that's what's happened

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they that all these legals and they can vote

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and they keep a super majority in the state of

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California Democrats and do whatever they want

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They're about ready to pass a bill where they're

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gonna make it be able to charge you with murder

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If you defend yourself against a criminal Coming

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into your home and attacking you if you kill

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them you can be charged with murder. That's what

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they're about to pass What? Yeah Wow. So in other

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words, they're raping your fucking wife. You

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shoot this motherfucker on top of her and you're

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going to jail for murder. You're going to be

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charged. You're going to be charged with murder.

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Right. And like, what's the what's the justification?

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What is the logic behind that? It's some fucking

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asshole congressman from Santa Monica. It's like,

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well, let me send an illegal to rape your fucking

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wife in front of you. Right. You going to do

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just stand there and go? No, he just wanted to

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come here for a better life. So go ahead break

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my wife and killer. It's fine. I don't want to

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kill you Damn it folks Why do we have to pay

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attention to this shit and bring it to your attention?

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Wake up people get your shit together vote these

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fuckers out Yeah, and and like fucking let's

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get America great again, man Rocking that's again.

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That's what that's what uh, they were talking

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to Joe Rogan and you know, we're talking about

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that It's like we're at a point where make America

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great again is a bad thing, or all lives matter

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is a bad thing. It's like, that's how reversed

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and fucked up the left is. They could get offended

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by those simple, all -inclusive statements. Make

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America great again. Oh, you're a racist. Make

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all lives matter. Oh, you're a racist. It's like,

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what are you talking about? Listen to yourself.

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Dude, that was absurd with Black Lives Matter

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that you couldn't say all lives matter because

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only black lives mattered at that point. Get

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the fuck out of here, dude. All lives matter.

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I'm sorry. I'm glad you have a movement and I'm

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glad your movement is fucking buying houses and

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fucking using that money for personal gains rather

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than helping out the people that they're trying

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to help out. But yeah. All lives matter. I'm

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sorry. Yes black or inclusive. Can you be if

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that's what you want inclusiveness, right? I

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just saw a girl a woman on on Instagram. She

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said I think I put on my story She's talking

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about DEI. She's like if DEI so great Why if

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you tell somebody like Kamala Harris that you're

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a DEI hired do they get offended about it? Gee

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let me think Anywho, so if it's great, why are

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you offended when someone calls you a D .I. higher?

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Hmm. Hmm. Oh, we are. How strange. It's Farganaka

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bullshit. But we do have some very special guests,

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Mr. Gracie. We're here for. Yes. This special

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bonus episode. We got the lilies of David coming

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on. We have David. Hi, Johnny. Hello, hello,

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Deirdre and Jeremy from Lilies of David. They

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just had a concert last night. How'd it go, folks?

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Nice. It was fun. It was we had a couple this

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week, but that one was we're excited about that

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because it was a it was a college party show.

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So was that it was at Rutgers. Yeah. Yeah, it

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was pretty crazy. It was a lot of fun. We did

00:16:13.570 --> 00:16:15.590
a lot of college shows back in the day, obviously,

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but I just told people, I never went to college,

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but I parted a lot. Honestly, it's really great

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because talk about like, intentful listenership.

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I feel like everybody's super engaged at those

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parties and you just meet so many people that

00:16:32.929 --> 00:16:35.769
hopefully like your music, which I think last

00:16:35.769 --> 00:16:38.049
night went well. So I think those parties are

00:16:38.049 --> 00:16:41.399
the best. Hey, that's how Dave Matthews band

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got started they allowed they went to toward

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like college parties frats and all that stuff

00:16:46.740 --> 00:16:49.600
allowed people to tape their shows and Spread

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the tapes around and boom here. They are Yeah,

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are you guys against people taping your shows

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and putting out your live performances? No So

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we I never understood that one. They were everyone

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was against taping your shows like sprinted wherever

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you want Billman send it out I mean that's kind

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of crazy like didn't that's what um everybody

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had an issue with like Napster and Limewire and

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all that stuff but I guess in a sense right like

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and you would probably know better than any of

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us chat it's like yeah I guess you're losing

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out on I don't streaming wasn't a thing then

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right so right well master was kind of the start

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of that yeah I think me personally my whole philosophy

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of that is that the major labels wanted to crush

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Napster and they ultimately did. If they just

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would have embraced it, they probably would have

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been able then monetize it and make streaming

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a more monetizable asset for the artists. But

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they tried to kill it. And that just made everybody

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go, oh, fuck them. We're going to get this shit

00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:57.380
for free. And now you have Spotify. And the majors

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did deals with Spotify where the majors got stocked

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from Spotify. And so their whole catalog was

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put on Spotify. That's why you have artists that

00:18:05.519 --> 00:18:08.220
get paid pennies on the dollar for millions and

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millions of streams on Spotify. You get nothing

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for them because the record companies in Spotify

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basically fucked us all. If you're an independent

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on Spotify, you can make good money because they

00:18:18.980 --> 00:18:20.759
pay you a good rate. Right. You don't have to

00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:23.369
share with the label. Yeah. Well, they don't

00:18:23.369 --> 00:18:25.329
share with the label label gets paid and then

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you get some pennies here and there master. I'm

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pretty sure the label, right? Say it again. They

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control the master, right? So, I mean, yeah.

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Well, in most cases, yeah, they that when you

00:18:35.130 --> 00:18:37.029
make a record with them for the major, they they

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own the masters. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, you

00:18:40.170 --> 00:18:42.650
kind of got lucky because if streaming didn't

00:18:42.650 --> 00:18:44.910
become a thing, there might have been zero money

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in music because everybody would have just been

00:18:47.130 --> 00:18:49.890
downloading, you know, illegally, like at least

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now with streaming, there's some money coming

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in. Because honestly, back in the day, that's

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all I was doing. I was limewire Napster. I'd

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fucking download everything and have a free fucking

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catalog. Of course, I supported bands like yours,

00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:04.380
fucking Pearl Jam, Dave Matthews, like bands

00:19:04.380 --> 00:19:06.839
that I like. But I wasn't going to go buy a fucking

00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:08.799
offspring record when I only wanted one of their

00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:11.559
songs and fucking could download it for free.

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So it's like streaming while it still rips off

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the artist. It might have brought some revenue

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back in that might have been completely lost.

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Well, it's it's amazing for getting your music

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out there and then you can obviously benefit

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from touring and Merchandise and all that good

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stuff. That's how bands make money now basically

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true sales I think where the record labels like

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really fucked up on that. Like you said they

00:19:35.539 --> 00:19:39.799
like a good point they tried to Kind of oppress

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Napster and all those things that were eventually

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kind of transmuting into a streaming service

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and now you Spotify Apple music and all these

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things that control all the streaming like Universal

00:19:50.690 --> 00:19:52.950
and Virgin and all the like they're not doing

00:19:52.950 --> 00:19:54.970
any so they could have had that if they just

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yeah You know, they all could have owned Napster

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that probably could have partnered with Napster

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own part of it And at that point they were doing

00:20:02.170 --> 00:20:05.430
polls with people Would you pay for this if you

00:20:05.430 --> 00:20:07.150
had to and a lot of people were saying? Yeah,

00:20:07.190 --> 00:20:10.329
we'll pay for it just to get music this way Yeah,

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and but the the labels didn't listen to that.

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They were like fuck you. We're killing you This

00:20:13.990 --> 00:20:16.670
is all led by Laurel Lars from Metallica. Go

00:20:16.670 --> 00:20:19.619
figure Right. He was a big leader of that. They

00:20:19.619 --> 00:20:22.680
were pissed off about that. Yo, man. Like, don't

00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:26.700
be downloading my music, dude. Yeah. Yeah. But

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I mean, it's just the writing was on the wall

00:20:28.279 --> 00:20:30.339
at that point. It was kind of fucking it put

00:20:30.339 --> 00:20:34.119
a bad look on Metallica. Basically, at that point,

00:20:34.180 --> 00:20:35.559
people were like, what the fuck did the writings

00:20:35.559 --> 00:20:37.920
on the wall? Like you're over here fighting it.

00:20:38.180 --> 00:20:39.720
People got it already. Like, what are you going

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to do? But I mean, I definitely see it. It was

00:20:43.319 --> 00:20:46.990
it was the movie industry somehow. kind of got

00:20:46.990 --> 00:20:49.130
around it, though, because for a while you could

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download the movies and stuff like that and get

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a legal. But I don't know how they kind of kept

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that from falling by the wayside. I don't think

00:20:58.930 --> 00:21:01.809
that movie industry went against it so hard.

00:21:02.549 --> 00:21:05.250
Yeah. And then Netflix with the streaming and

00:21:05.250 --> 00:21:08.950
stuff kind of embraced that kind as well. It's

00:21:08.950 --> 00:21:12.000
a crazy landscape to think about. I mean, Going

00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:14.700
from a band like you, Chad, starting off in the

00:21:14.700 --> 00:21:18.079
late 80s, early 90s to starting a band now, it's

00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:20.000
like a completely different landscape. Back in

00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:22.400
the day, you'd probably get in a van and go fucking

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do tours and gigs and stuff like that. Now you

00:21:25.500 --> 00:21:31.059
could probably almost make a social media following

00:21:31.059 --> 00:21:34.519
and blow your band up that way rather than going

00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:37.170
out on the road. There's many more ways to get

00:21:37.170 --> 00:21:38.910
your music out now, but you got to cut through

00:21:38.910 --> 00:21:40.589
the static There's a lot more static, but there's

00:21:40.589 --> 00:21:43.410
many more outlets to get your music out seems

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I mean back in you know in my day that in my

00:21:46.650 --> 00:21:50.809
day back in Old guy, you know you if you wanted

00:21:50.809 --> 00:21:52.990
to be successful you you went for a major label

00:21:52.990 --> 00:21:55.670
deal They they funded everything they pay for

00:21:55.670 --> 00:21:57.210
your record. They give you tour support They

00:21:57.210 --> 00:22:00.589
got you out there and eventually hopefully you

00:22:00.589 --> 00:22:03.529
sold enough records to start having a good time

00:22:03.529 --> 00:22:06.279
with it, but It's just not that mechanism anymore.

00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:09.920
Yeah. Are you guys fine? Are you guys trying

00:22:09.920 --> 00:22:11.880
to do this all like Lily's a David? I'm speaking

00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:13.599
to you guys trying to do this all on your own,

00:22:13.700 --> 00:22:16.940
like kind of self -finance your album, put it

00:22:16.940 --> 00:22:19.519
out there. Are you looking to get into record

00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:22.059
labels? What's your kind of vision for that?

00:22:22.539 --> 00:22:25.059
I mean, and think and I have spoken about this

00:22:25.059 --> 00:22:28.619
like we kind of it's a it's a six piece band,

00:22:28.660 --> 00:22:33.309
but you know, being Deirdre and I we fund everything

00:22:33.309 --> 00:22:37.769
ourselves and so we would like to stay independent

00:22:37.769 --> 00:22:41.710
as not as long as we can because I'm not like

00:22:41.710 --> 00:22:44.809
ignorant to the fact that a record deal and a

00:22:44.809 --> 00:22:48.009
record label is still important nowadays especially

00:22:48.009 --> 00:22:51.210
if you want to get to like a certain point but

00:22:51.210 --> 00:22:53.009
like you guys were saying the landscape has changed

00:22:53.009 --> 00:22:55.930
so you can make money you know streaming revenue

00:22:55.930 --> 00:22:58.609
and stuff like that strictly off Spotify and

00:22:58.609 --> 00:23:01.430
Apple Music as an independent artist but you

00:23:01.430 --> 00:23:05.420
definitely if that comes around and you get offered

00:23:05.420 --> 00:23:08.539
a decent deal, then you know, you definitely,

00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:11.140
we would like to take it. Yeah, but we're trying

00:23:11.140 --> 00:23:13.299
to do, we're doing everything ourselves. Like

00:23:13.299 --> 00:23:18.339
all these songs are self -financed and we're

00:23:18.339 --> 00:23:20.140
definitely leading it up to an album that'll

00:23:20.140 --> 00:23:22.380
be self -financed too. So if something happens

00:23:22.380 --> 00:23:26.049
in the interim of that, then great. Chad, do

00:23:26.049 --> 00:23:28.890
you have any advice to give these guys so they

00:23:28.890 --> 00:23:31.890
don't end up in lawsuits after a couple of years

00:23:31.890 --> 00:23:38.630
of the band? Yeah, that's... I mean, so I'm sure

00:23:38.630 --> 00:23:40.549
you guys, between the two of you, you own the

00:23:40.549 --> 00:23:43.549
majority of the band. Do the other guys have

00:23:43.549 --> 00:23:47.569
ownership in the band or any say? No, not right

00:23:47.569 --> 00:23:52.450
now. It's just us on the LLC of the band. I was

00:23:52.450 --> 00:23:55.890
talking to a publisher... And they were telling

00:23:55.890 --> 00:23:59.549
me there's something like stock certificates

00:23:59.549 --> 00:24:02.390
of the band as well with an LLC. I didn't know

00:24:02.390 --> 00:24:04.630
about this and I still have to like look into

00:24:04.630 --> 00:24:08.269
that to see what that actually means. But apparently

00:24:08.269 --> 00:24:10.390
you could kind of give those out or something.

00:24:10.789 --> 00:24:14.529
You can issue units of the LLC if you want to.

00:24:14.650 --> 00:24:17.390
And that would just be basic ownership. But you

00:24:17.390 --> 00:24:21.130
need to keep control of the LLC. Don't give any

00:24:21.130 --> 00:24:25.200
control away. As long as you two get along. So

00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:27.900
probably the writer should have like a publishing

00:24:27.900 --> 00:24:31.400
company and then the band would be its own LLC

00:24:31.400 --> 00:24:33.079
or something. I don't really know how. Yeah,

00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:35.019
you actually have to have a separate company

00:24:35.019 --> 00:24:38.480
for publishing and then a company that that is

00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:40.900
just for the band and touring and merchandise.

00:24:40.900 --> 00:24:44.940
Probably that's definitely suggest that. My brother,

00:24:44.940 --> 00:24:47.519
Jeremy, I'll do all the deals for you and make

00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:49.940
sure that I'm at the head of it and make sure

00:24:49.940 --> 00:24:54.000
the money funnels into my bank account. I'll

00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:57.559
be your manager that way. What was the that happens?

00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:00.380
Yeah, Elvis's manager. What was the Uncle Tom

00:25:00.380 --> 00:25:03.500
or Colonel Tom or some shit? Yeah, Uncle Tom.

00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:08.519
That was he did. Colonel Sanders, Colonel Sanders.

00:25:08.539 --> 00:25:11.240
That was at the Chicken Dude. No, but whatever

00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:14.720
the fucking Elvis's manager, he completely robbed

00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:16.859
them blind and fucking was working them to the

00:25:16.859 --> 00:25:20.220
bone. That's an old tale. And yeah, unfortunately.

00:25:20.779 --> 00:25:22.880
Chad, should I not do that to my younger brother

00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:28.599
though? I'll just ride him like a donkey. Deirdre,

00:25:29.220 --> 00:25:32.799
since you're one of the front men of the band.

00:25:32.819 --> 00:25:35.859
Front woman. Front woman, I'm sorry. I thought

00:25:35.859 --> 00:25:40.519
she was transitioning, I'm not sure. Do we wear

00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:42.680
sexy outfits on stage? Are we trying to entice

00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:45.599
the crowd that way? Talk to me. It depends on

00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:50.119
the venue. I feel like each venue you have to...

00:25:50.119 --> 00:25:52.339
Fit the environment and we've been playing a

00:25:52.339 --> 00:25:55.519
lot of different types of places from like house

00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:59.359
shows to banquet halls To house independence

00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:02.339
like just a rock and roll venue. So it really

00:26:02.339 --> 00:26:06.579
depends I'm gonna give I'm gonna give you guys

00:26:06.579 --> 00:26:08.880
a cool piece of advice from somebody who's been

00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:12.980
to a lot of college parties If you bring a poll

00:26:12.980 --> 00:26:17.039
like literally a fucking Five foot pole and just

00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:19.299
like put it in the center of the floor chicks

00:26:19.299 --> 00:26:23.779
will come up and dance on it This happened at

00:26:23.779 --> 00:26:25.799
a party way back in the day me and my friends

00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:27.599
go there and we found like this pole in the basement

00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:29.779
just bring it up and just stack it in the middle

00:26:29.779 --> 00:26:32.559
of a dance floor and Ladies just came up and

00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:34.240
started dancing on it. So every time we went

00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:36.740
to parties We were like break out the pole and

00:26:36.740 --> 00:26:39.420
just go up and dance on it people do that now

00:26:39.420 --> 00:26:42.220
There's actually there's a spanned up in Asbury.

00:26:42.220 --> 00:26:44.519
I forget the name of them But we did a few shows

00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:47.660
with them and they actually bring a pole and

00:26:47.660 --> 00:26:49.720
pole dancers to actual venues now and they made

00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:53.140
it part of their. It's it's a good idea. Chad,

00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:56.059
you opened for Jane's Addiction back in the day.

00:26:56.059 --> 00:26:58.019
Oh, yeah, that full on strippers on stage. Yeah,

00:26:58.319 --> 00:27:02.619
basically all of them. They describe so live

00:27:02.619 --> 00:27:06.960
did like this acoustic jam before Jane's Addiction.

00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:10.640
And they used to call themselves the lube before

00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:14.670
the sex act. Did you know that moniker was was

00:27:14.670 --> 00:27:16.549
called that chat? Because that's how they described

00:27:16.549 --> 00:27:18.930
it. I don't know if it was Ed or somebody, but

00:27:18.930 --> 00:27:21.089
they said, I think I heard. Yeah. Yeah, I think

00:27:21.089 --> 00:27:24.309
it was said that. Yeah, that's funny, man. But

00:27:24.309 --> 00:27:27.130
it really was. It was a wild show. Fucking strippers

00:27:27.130 --> 00:27:29.990
just like in the air and fucking flowing through

00:27:29.990 --> 00:27:34.569
was crazy. But yes, sexuality, Deirdre, be naked

00:27:34.569 --> 00:27:38.569
on stage. It'll track them down. Put your jet

00:27:38.569 --> 00:27:44.519
pack on. Put your jet pack on Bing. Do you guys

00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:46.940
like performing? Is that like what's what's the

00:27:46.940 --> 00:27:49.740
most fun of being in a band? Is it the performing?

00:27:49.940 --> 00:27:52.640
Is it the studio? Is it the writing? Like, where's

00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.700
the joy come? Finding that flow, whatever that

00:27:56.700 --> 00:27:59.759
may be. So sometimes it is performing. Sometimes

00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:02.859
it's songwriting. It's just like getting into

00:28:02.859 --> 00:28:05.619
a flow with whatever you're doing. I feel like

00:28:05.619 --> 00:28:10.619
for me. Do you have a way to get into the flow?

00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:14.319
Are you finding it easier as you perform more?

00:28:14.420 --> 00:28:16.500
Do you have a ritual to get you in that head

00:28:16.500 --> 00:28:23.140
space? I feel like I'm still figuring out a ritual

00:28:23.140 --> 00:28:26.779
for it. I'm still playing around with what works.

00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:30.099
Chad, did you have any, like, pre -stage rituals

00:28:30.099 --> 00:28:33.000
to kind of get in that, like, vibe space and,

00:28:33.220 --> 00:28:34.720
like, get in? Because you have an alter ego,

00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:36.180
dude. I don't know. I mean, people have said

00:28:36.180 --> 00:28:37.799
it about you. Like, you're a different person

00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.119
onstage and offstage. When you put that backwards

00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:44.160
cap on, you're almost like the over -the -top

00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:47.220
guy in, you know, that movie with Sylvester Stallone.

00:28:47.339 --> 00:28:51.160
Over the top. Nice. Yeah. I didn't really have

00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:54.319
a ritual. I just, I would, before the show, I

00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:56.480
would just be kind of like... Cool. And maybe,

00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:58.220
I don't know, maybe if you want to use the word

00:28:58.220 --> 00:29:01.099
Zen, I would just be chill. And then when I sit

00:29:01.099 --> 00:29:04.380
down on the, on the, uh, on the stool and time

00:29:04.380 --> 00:29:08.039
to go, boom, shock, turn, turn it on. So yeah,

00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:10.420
but I wouldn't, I mean, we, we did this show

00:29:10.420 --> 00:29:14.000
with Metallica one time and, uh, the Ella K rock

00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:17.539
weenie roast in LA back in like, I don't know,

00:29:17.700 --> 00:29:20.660
somewhere in the two thousands and Ed, Ed ran

00:29:20.660 --> 00:29:22.539
into there. He was all drunk and he ran into

00:29:22.539 --> 00:29:24.519
their dressing room before they were going on.

00:29:24.670 --> 00:29:28.170
just like burst in and fucking like I guess Lars

00:29:28.170 --> 00:29:30.789
was in the corner like jogging in place and like

00:29:30.789 --> 00:29:33.849
stretching and stuff but and uh and apparently

00:29:33.849 --> 00:29:36.470
James was like doing it la la la la la la la

00:29:36.470 --> 00:29:37.849
la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la

00:29:37.849 --> 00:29:39.769
la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la

00:29:39.769 --> 00:29:39.769
la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la

00:29:39.769 --> 00:29:39.769
la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la

00:29:39.769 --> 00:29:39.789
la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la

00:29:39.789 --> 00:29:40.069
la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la

00:29:40.069 --> 00:29:40.069
la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la

00:29:40.069 --> 00:29:40.150
la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la

00:29:40.150 --> 00:29:40.150
la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la

00:29:40.150 --> 00:29:49.779
la la la la la la la la That is awesome. Well,

00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:51.799
I've heard cool stories like you guys were a

00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:54.559
cool rock band because Hootie was on Howard Stern

00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:56.359
back in the day and Howard was trying to ask

00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:58.579
him for like cool rock and roll stories. And

00:29:58.579 --> 00:30:00.619
he's like, dude, we're not a cool fun band. He's

00:30:00.619 --> 00:30:02.900
like, but the guys from alive, dude, apparently

00:30:02.900 --> 00:30:06.119
I think Ed was like drunk naked somewhere like

00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.259
jump through like bushes naked. Like this is

00:30:08.259 --> 00:30:11.240
Hootie telling a story about you guys. Yeah,

00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:12.980
I was not there that night. That was Chad and

00:30:12.980 --> 00:30:15.140
Ed. We're out with Hootie in LA, going to some

00:30:15.140 --> 00:30:18.279
fucking party. That's fucking funny, man. I love

00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:21.460
it. So yeah, Jer and Deirdre, you guys got to

00:30:21.460 --> 00:30:23.579
fucking get drunk and naked on stage and go jump

00:30:23.579 --> 00:30:25.759
through bushes and do rock star stuff. Rock and

00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:29.259
roll. Rock and roll. Where was the where was

00:30:29.259 --> 00:30:32.140
the show last night? That was at Ruckers. Oh,

00:30:32.220 --> 00:30:36.019
Ruckers. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So, how was the crowd?

00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:37.839
You said they were into it. Did you hang with

00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:40.299
them afterwards? Did you talk to them? Did you

00:30:40.299 --> 00:30:42.880
party with them? We were there so late. Yeah,

00:30:43.019 --> 00:30:46.319
we were there until like 12, 31 a .m. or something.

00:30:47.700 --> 00:30:50.859
But we finished our... We closed the last song

00:30:50.859 --> 00:30:52.819
with the song we just released, Skin & Bones.

00:30:53.259 --> 00:30:55.799
And then they were like, one more song, one more

00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:59.680
song. And then that kept going on for like...

00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:02.960
four more songs. So we just started taking requests

00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:04.900
from them and playing the songs that they wanted

00:31:04.900 --> 00:31:06.920
to hear. Hey, that's that's a great response.

00:31:07.019 --> 00:31:11.720
You like that. Yeah. Yeah. Rock on. So did you

00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:14.059
do you guys do like different setlist for shows?

00:31:14.059 --> 00:31:16.619
Is it or you guys kind of just doing like the

00:31:16.619 --> 00:31:19.720
same couple songs that you do or you switching

00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:24.420
it up? We switch it up. I mean, it's the last

00:31:24.420 --> 00:31:27.170
thing. Yeah, it's typically the same songs like

00:31:27.170 --> 00:31:29.450
our original set like our original songs. And

00:31:29.450 --> 00:31:31.470
then we'll mix in a few covers or, you know,

00:31:31.549 --> 00:31:33.589
different things here and there. But last night

00:31:33.589 --> 00:31:36.490
was completely like off the cuff because we were

00:31:36.490 --> 00:31:39.430
we were singing from party in the USA from, you

00:31:39.430 --> 00:31:42.430
know, by Miley Cyrus. Oh, wow. To like sweater

00:31:42.430 --> 00:31:44.910
weather by the neighborhood. And we did I sang

00:31:44.910 --> 00:31:47.630
sublime. There was a bunch of different things

00:31:47.630 --> 00:31:50.759
that we saying it was wild. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah,

00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:52.900
what are these college kids in these into these

00:31:52.900 --> 00:32:01.279
days? No They were into like like good like sublime,

00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:06.000
uh, we played nirvana at one point Yes, all 90s

00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:09.160
stuff 2000s too. But yeah, do you play any? I

00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:12.700
heard the 90s are coming back I should I think

00:32:12.700 --> 00:32:17.259
so like seriously uh Chad we didn't speak about

00:32:17.259 --> 00:32:20.180
this, but Christina Ricci was ripping on fucking

00:32:20.180 --> 00:32:24.519
lightning crashes Yeah, I saw that what? Like

00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:27.359
are you kidding me dude? So lightning crashes

00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:29.839
apparently is in this show yellow jackets or

00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.700
something and Coming yeah, they've done the old

00:32:32.700 --> 00:32:34.799
jackets too. I guess it's in one of the scenes.

00:32:35.579 --> 00:32:39.359
I Mean, how do you not like that song man? I

00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:41.380
heard a rumor that she had an ex boyfriend who

00:32:41.380 --> 00:32:43.619
was a big live fan and he broke up with her.

00:32:43.619 --> 00:32:46.920
And so that's why she hates him. Oh, just a rumor.

00:32:46.980 --> 00:32:50.779
I have no idea. That's hysterical. I heard Wednesday's

00:32:50.779 --> 00:32:53.319
piss. I heard the drummer from that band gave

00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:55.299
her anal never talked to her again. That's what

00:32:55.299 --> 00:32:57.059
I heard. That's why she doesn't like the song.

00:32:57.059 --> 00:32:59.660
I don't know. I never had sex with Wednesday.

00:33:00.539 --> 00:33:03.559
Okay. So it wasn't maybe she was talking about

00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:07.579
Robin Diaz then. I'm sorry. Anyhow, just one

00:33:07.579 --> 00:33:10.880
drummer. That's right. That's right. So what's

00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:12.680
the plan here, though? So do we plan on taking

00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:14.759
Lily's David into the stratosphere? Like, are

00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:18.779
we going to what's the goal? Yeah, definitely

00:33:18.779 --> 00:33:21.960
stratosphere, higher, whatever. No, I don't know.

00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:25.700
That's a hard thing to think about. So it's like

00:33:25.700 --> 00:33:27.900
you got to stay balanced and stuff for sure.

00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:31.519
Like, I kind of resonate with what Chad said

00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:35.420
about Metallica in a sense, like being like pretty

00:33:35.420 --> 00:33:37.759
kind of like. Zen or like taking it seriously

00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:41.759
and I'm not drinking too much. Kind of just getting

00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:44.000
my mind right, especially us two as singers,

00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:46.220
you know, maybe we'll run some scales or something

00:33:46.220 --> 00:33:48.359
like, you know, just staying balanced because

00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:51.940
then when we do party and stuff, we can enjoy

00:33:51.940 --> 00:33:54.500
that and not have to, I don't know, worry about

00:33:54.500 --> 00:33:56.619
we just did the set. So we don't have to sing

00:33:56.619 --> 00:33:59.500
now. You know, sure. Yeah. But I guess we take

00:33:59.500 --> 00:34:03.299
it a day at a time. And, you know, definitely

00:34:03.299 --> 00:34:06.190
do our work in terms of like promotion and and

00:34:06.190 --> 00:34:08.250
social media and all that stuff and try to get

00:34:08.250 --> 00:34:10.769
it to as many years as possible. Where that takes

00:34:10.769 --> 00:34:12.730
us, I don't know. That's, you know, up to God,

00:34:12.730 --> 00:34:16.750
I guess. Sure. Deirdre, I heard you I heard you

00:34:16.750 --> 00:34:19.150
do a little bit of liquid courage to get on stage.

00:34:19.250 --> 00:34:25.050
Is that true? Only sometimes I try not to. Does

00:34:25.050 --> 00:34:27.150
it take you? Well, because I guess it could take

00:34:27.150 --> 00:34:30.260
you out of the game or put you in the game. Where

00:34:30.260 --> 00:34:32.880
so what have you have you gotten into the vibe

00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:35.280
yet on stage where you're in the zone? Like it's

00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:37.500
fucking all cylinders are firing and you're like,

00:34:37.539 --> 00:34:39.679
yes, I'm feeling it right now. Have you gotten

00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:43.940
there? Yeah, I definitely have but um, I Feel

00:34:43.940 --> 00:34:45.840
like the more I do it the more consistent it

00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.179
will be my stamina will keep up with playing

00:34:50.179 --> 00:34:54.159
However long the show is sure the energy high

00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:59.320
the whole time. Yeah You guys ever think about

00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:02.579
getting some like stage acts like maybe some

00:35:02.579 --> 00:35:07.320
dancers on there or fucking I Look good in a

00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:12.179
tutu. I'm just gonna say voluntary. Yes, sir.

00:35:12.219 --> 00:35:17.699
Yes, sir You're gonna go on the pole buddy. Yeah,

00:35:17.699 --> 00:35:23.440
let's go singing on the pole If you lick a quarter,

00:35:23.659 --> 00:35:25.980
stick it to my leg. I'm good. That's what I started

00:35:25.980 --> 00:35:28.099
doing at strip clubs. No dollars licking quarter

00:35:28.099 --> 00:35:30.059
sticking them to the ladies. That's how you do

00:35:30.059 --> 00:35:36.639
it. At least dollar coins. They're not worth

00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:38.400
it. The last time I went to a strip club, it

00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:40.699
was during covid and I caught covid, believe

00:35:40.699 --> 00:35:44.300
it or not. Really? From the strip club? Well,

00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:46.340
yeah, from there. So check this out. I go to

00:35:46.340 --> 00:35:49.650
the strip club and. People are walking around

00:35:49.650 --> 00:35:52.150
with Jurgen's bottles, dude. Chicks are walking

00:35:52.150 --> 00:35:54.369
around with Jurgen's bottle. This is during COVID

00:35:54.369 --> 00:35:59.409
-19, the heart of COVID -19. And I'm like, wow.

00:35:59.570 --> 00:36:01.789
I'm like, this is a fucking crazy strip club.

00:36:01.869 --> 00:36:03.449
Like, I didn't realize, like, that was a thing

00:36:03.449 --> 00:36:06.110
to do. You just walk around girls about. Anyway,

00:36:06.269 --> 00:36:08.789
didn't take anybody up on that. But one of the

00:36:08.789 --> 00:36:11.349
gentlemen I was with, he's gone for 10 minutes,

00:36:11.449 --> 00:36:14.860
comes back and he got a little hand sandwich,

00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:17.380
if you know what I mean. But anyway, I leave

00:36:17.380 --> 00:36:21.739
in the next day. I caught covid and. Of course,

00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:24.579
like what better place to catch covid, but a

00:36:24.579 --> 00:36:27.139
strip club where you're fucking around people,

00:36:27.340 --> 00:36:30.380
just like in creepy people. Did they did they

00:36:30.380 --> 00:36:34.159
did was that considered one of the essential

00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:38.840
essential? They were essential. Were they were

00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:41.059
they actually kept open, though, because I know

00:36:41.059 --> 00:36:43.179
like like liquor stores were because. People

00:36:43.179 --> 00:36:44.960
could die if they didn't don't have alcohol,

00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:49.960
but we're strip clubs essential. So so Satin

00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:53.840
Dolls, which was in the Sopranos, they had an

00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:56.619
outside strip club that I would drive by on 17

00:36:56.619 --> 00:36:59.119
and you would see they had an outdoor strip club.

00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:01.800
Didn't go there. This one I went to, I feel like

00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:04.800
it was going against the law at the time. Like,

00:37:04.820 --> 00:37:06.420
I feel like they shouldn't have been open, like

00:37:06.420 --> 00:37:08.760
they were not essential, but they considered

00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:12.630
themselves essential. So, yeah, I think they

00:37:12.630 --> 00:37:14.050
were just going against the grain. I don't think

00:37:14.050 --> 00:37:16.489
they were technically essential. Oh, but her

00:37:16.489 --> 00:37:19.809
lives matter. Come on, man. Her lives matter.

00:37:20.070 --> 00:37:23.690
Exactly. But, yeah, I mean, just the next day,

00:37:23.750 --> 00:37:25.409
I'm like, wow, I don't feel good. Went to the

00:37:25.409 --> 00:37:28.989
doctor. Covid, man. And then. But of course,

00:37:29.150 --> 00:37:32.570
right. You're fucking around shady people. Yeah.

00:37:33.489 --> 00:37:36.789
And it was just it was a funny story. I was on

00:37:36.789 --> 00:37:40.679
shrooms. I walk in with a couple of people. I

00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:43.559
had a big wad of money with me. I'll tell the

00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:45.300
story. I had a big wad of money with me. I walk

00:37:45.300 --> 00:37:46.739
in with people. I give it to somebody because

00:37:46.739 --> 00:37:50.400
I'm a little not feeling... I was a little affected

00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:52.559
by the shrooms. So I hand somebody my money.

00:37:52.699 --> 00:37:54.139
I'm like, can you hold this? Because I'm not

00:37:54.139 --> 00:37:56.300
in the right mind to be holding onto it. She

00:37:56.300 --> 00:37:59.199
goes, yeah, walks like 10 feet away from me,

00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:02.099
drops the entire stack of cash that I just gave

00:38:02.099 --> 00:38:05.920
her. I'm like, oh, boy, this is not good. Yeah.

00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:09.900
But who'd you give it to? I don't know if you

00:38:09.900 --> 00:38:12.380
met her, but my friend Tina. Oh, someone you

00:38:12.380 --> 00:38:15.860
knew. Yes. Yeah. One of the strippers. No. Yeah.

00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.360
Hold this strippers. Yeah. If I would have gave

00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:20.659
it the stripper, I probably would have got a

00:38:20.659 --> 00:38:23.360
little handy from the Juergens or something going

00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:28.019
on. But, you know, anyway, back to the band.

00:38:28.860 --> 00:38:31.019
Deidre, you should walk around on stage with

00:38:31.019 --> 00:38:35.420
a Juergens bottle is a little a little tip for

00:38:35.420 --> 00:38:40.090
you. Yeah. So what's the deal? So are we doing

00:38:40.090 --> 00:38:42.869
just you did covers last night? Is that something

00:38:42.869 --> 00:38:45.889
you guys are diving into or you just want to

00:38:45.889 --> 00:38:50.489
be original musicians? Mostly just originals.

00:38:50.489 --> 00:38:54.610
I mean, we stick a cover or two in our original

00:38:54.610 --> 00:38:58.869
sets just, you know, to kind of give the people

00:38:58.869 --> 00:39:01.210
we like to give a nice mix of like relatable

00:39:01.210 --> 00:39:03.130
content. And then we're also giving you all new

00:39:03.130 --> 00:39:06.710
content because like me. For us right now, shows

00:39:06.710 --> 00:39:09.750
are like strictly like advertising and connecting

00:39:09.750 --> 00:39:11.710
with new audience members and stuff like that.

00:39:12.250 --> 00:39:14.250
So, you know, we definitely like to keep it relatable

00:39:14.250 --> 00:39:16.670
to our genre with the covers that we select,

00:39:17.070 --> 00:39:21.730
but mostly originals for sure. So there's six

00:39:21.730 --> 00:39:24.530
people in the band. That's a fucking what are

00:39:24.530 --> 00:39:26.250
you guys going to do when you go on a real tour?

00:39:26.349 --> 00:39:28.909
You're going to need like a fucking two tour

00:39:28.909 --> 00:39:34.789
buses or something. Yeah Can't wait I because

00:39:34.789 --> 00:39:38.309
I mean and You probably know Chad right like

00:39:38.309 --> 00:39:40.409
before you guys were like signed and playing

00:39:40.409 --> 00:39:43.690
all the big shows and stuff were you did you

00:39:43.690 --> 00:39:49.110
have I guess like tour crew members or Were you

00:39:49.110 --> 00:39:50.969
all lugging it around yourself, especially as

00:39:50.969 --> 00:39:54.670
a drummer, right? Yeah, very early days. Oh,

00:39:54.769 --> 00:39:57.690
my cousin Matt has been with us Matt Gracie has

00:39:57.690 --> 00:40:01.550
been with us as a roadie since we started like

00:40:01.550 --> 00:40:05.090
in high school. Yeah. At least at least one guy.

00:40:05.369 --> 00:40:07.230
And we did have another guy who was a friend,

00:40:07.349 --> 00:40:09.289
just a friend guy from the neighborhood who would

00:40:09.289 --> 00:40:12.449
help us. But, uh, so yeah, we had a couple of

00:40:12.449 --> 00:40:15.369
people helping us. Um, so I didn't have to lug.

00:40:15.610 --> 00:40:17.690
I mean, I, everyone pitched in and helped. So

00:40:17.690 --> 00:40:19.650
I had to move some stuff, but except for the

00:40:19.650 --> 00:40:22.190
singer singer never helps. They just grabbed

00:40:22.190 --> 00:40:24.449
their microphone and like, there we go. We're

00:40:24.449 --> 00:40:27.789
good. Not us. We move. Well, I move stuff right

00:40:27.789 --> 00:40:29.610
now. Deirdre is not allowed to because she actually

00:40:29.610 --> 00:40:32.809
broke her back. So that's why we're talking about

00:40:32.809 --> 00:40:38.469
her jetpack. Is your jetpack on Bing? Yeah. Can

00:40:38.469 --> 00:40:41.110
you show the can we show the audience? Yeah.

00:40:41.110 --> 00:40:43.050
Jetpack like a brace or something? Yeah, looks

00:40:43.050 --> 00:40:52.280
like a jetpack. Oh my. Holy. Spin. Oh, wow. How

00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:54.480
did we do that there dear? Yeah, what happened

00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:58.119
busting out some grooves on stage? Yeah, right

00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.920
No, I was I was in Colorado and I got really

00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:07.300
excited snowboarding and I Tried to do this insane

00:41:07.300 --> 00:41:14.820
jump ended up landing on my ass Yeah, well it

00:41:14.820 --> 00:41:17.489
was a little to the right So it wasn't directly

00:41:17.489 --> 00:41:21.110
on my tailbone, but the compression just fractured

00:41:21.110 --> 00:41:27.550
my vertebrae. So are you in pain? It doesn't

00:41:27.550 --> 00:41:30.289
do much. I'm still moving around on stage and

00:41:30.289 --> 00:41:33.389
doing what I have to do. Wow. So you're performing

00:41:33.389 --> 00:41:35.550
with a broken back. Do you let the audience know?

00:41:35.710 --> 00:41:40.210
Like, Hey, I might not be on my game today. Actually,

00:41:40.210 --> 00:41:43.969
I don't think I have this isn't a course. It's

00:41:43.969 --> 00:41:45.789
actually a back brace because I have a broken

00:41:45.789 --> 00:41:48.670
back. That's fucking wow. Well, I do take off

00:41:48.670 --> 00:41:52.190
the brace before I go up, but I thought about

00:41:52.190 --> 00:41:56.510
wearing it up before, but I think too much. I

00:41:56.510 --> 00:41:58.190
really thought would have broken back like you

00:41:58.190 --> 00:42:01.250
might be in a wheelchair or a fucking something.

00:42:01.750 --> 00:42:07.860
I could have been I got lucky, but. My friend,

00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:10.619
Eric, Eric Martinez, he was on the show, John.

00:42:10.780 --> 00:42:14.400
He broke his neck skiing. Damn. But didn't, obviously

00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:16.440
he's not paralyzed, but he did. He broke his

00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:17.860
neck. If he didn't have a helmet on, he would

00:42:17.860 --> 00:42:21.280
have been probably dead. Fuck. Yeah, it's dangerous.

00:42:22.340 --> 00:42:23.940
It's very dangerous. This is one reason I've

00:42:23.940 --> 00:42:28.179
never snowboarded or skied. Thank you. Are you

00:42:28.179 --> 00:42:31.960
nervous to get back on a board? No, I'm excited.

00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:35.539
Really? I just won't hit a jump like that ever

00:42:35.539 --> 00:42:39.929
again. Yeah, you gotta be careful, man. Yeah.

00:42:40.250 --> 00:42:42.929
Were you in pain immediately? Like, how did that

00:42:42.929 --> 00:42:46.449
come about? Yeah, as soon as it happened, I heard

00:42:46.449 --> 00:42:50.210
the crack and I just laid there and then like

00:42:50.210 --> 00:42:53.929
kind of just nudged myself out of the way so

00:42:53.929 --> 00:42:56.289
nobody would land on me trying the same jump.

00:42:56.550 --> 00:43:00.030
And I laid there for a few minutes and managed

00:43:00.030 --> 00:43:04.429
to get up and ride down to the bottom. Wow. But

00:43:04.429 --> 00:43:10.980
the shock was making me see visual patterns and

00:43:10.980 --> 00:43:13.860
everything. Like it just sent my body into this

00:43:13.860 --> 00:43:16.840
weird state. Wow. I'm going to suggest our key

00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:21.800
man insurance guys. Yeah. Key man? Yeah. If your

00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:24.860
key man dies, you get paid insurance money. There

00:43:24.860 --> 00:43:28.840
you go. I like it. You're taking that policy

00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:31.260
out too. You can take it out on each other. So

00:43:31.260 --> 00:43:35.889
here you go. Perfect. But yeah, that's crazy.

00:43:35.889 --> 00:43:38.510
You got to fucking be careful there. I know.

00:43:38.510 --> 00:43:40.849
Goodness. And come up with a cooler story. Say

00:43:40.849 --> 00:43:43.170
you got into like a fight with fucking Chuck

00:43:43.170 --> 00:43:46.949
Liddell from UFC and you beat his ass, but he

00:43:46.949 --> 00:43:52.989
got one in on you. Wow. So did they have to helicopter

00:43:52.989 --> 00:43:55.010
you out? Like, did the ambulance come? What happened

00:43:55.010 --> 00:43:58.170
here? They were suggesting me take the ambulance,

00:43:58.250 --> 00:44:04.019
but I didn't. Wow. I had the paramedics check

00:44:04.019 --> 00:44:06.900
me out and everything like that. And I could

00:44:06.900 --> 00:44:11.219
walk. Trooper. I could waddle, really. I was

00:44:11.219 --> 00:44:15.099
walking real slow for a while. So, Joe, were

00:44:15.099 --> 00:44:17.360
you about to fire her from the band after you

00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:20.280
heard this? Well, you're like, fuck, man. No,

00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:25.639
I was I was I was a little angry that she did.

00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:29.099
So after it happened, she went to I thought she

00:44:29.099 --> 00:44:31.809
went to the hospital in Colorado. And I was like,

00:44:31.829 --> 00:44:34.349
all right, good. And then I found out when she

00:44:34.349 --> 00:44:37.469
came back, she's like, oh, she was working her

00:44:37.469 --> 00:44:39.409
nursing shift. And she's like, I think I should

00:44:39.409 --> 00:44:41.230
go get an x -ray or something. I was like, wait,

00:44:41.530 --> 00:44:44.210
you didn't get an x -ray while you were in Colorado?

00:44:44.630 --> 00:44:47.929
Wow. They were taking too long, and I wanted

00:44:47.929 --> 00:44:56.409
to go home. I didn't want to miss out. Then went

00:44:56.409 --> 00:44:58.050
snowboarding again or something. I was like,

00:44:58.070 --> 00:45:03.360
are you kidding me? Yeah. Oh, my God. Bad. Wowzers.

00:45:03.639 --> 00:45:08.840
I know. Ah, so it was almost Lily's without Deirdre.

00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:10.400
It would have been the new name of the band.

00:45:11.699 --> 00:45:15.340
It's the Davids. The Davids. Do we have a replacement?

00:45:15.619 --> 00:45:18.460
God forbid she doesn't heal up and doesn't look

00:45:18.460 --> 00:45:24.159
the same. We have a similar singing. No, doesn't

00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:26.260
look the same. That's good. Yeah. Keep somebody

00:45:26.260 --> 00:45:30.000
on the back burner. Yeah. So they kind of have

00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:32.139
a Fleetwood Mac vibe going. They dated back in

00:45:32.139 --> 00:45:34.239
the day and now they're just singing together

00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:38.420
in a band. So understudy. Yeah. Yeah. We need

00:45:38.420 --> 00:45:40.820
we need to find a replacement for Deidre since

00:45:40.820 --> 00:45:44.179
she's going all crazy over there. And I'm not

00:45:44.179 --> 00:45:46.079
going to I'm not going to do it again. Extreme

00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:51.039
sports. Yeah. Get her out. Get her out. So who

00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:54.119
is the songwriter? You guys write music together.

00:45:54.300 --> 00:45:56.239
Is it a solo thing? How does it how does it how

00:45:56.239 --> 00:45:59.969
the songs get written? Mostly together. Yeah,

00:45:59.969 --> 00:46:02.789
but then we'll do our own part on our own. So

00:46:02.789 --> 00:46:06.309
we might Like when I'm alone, I might work on

00:46:06.309 --> 00:46:10.010
one song that's interesting me at the time And

00:46:10.010 --> 00:46:12.969
words might come and then I'll see Jeremy and

00:46:12.969 --> 00:46:16.949
then share it with him and vice versa Yeah, it

00:46:16.949 --> 00:46:21.429
was back and forth Definitely. I mean we we try

00:46:21.429 --> 00:46:25.949
to How do you know how did it work in live did

00:46:26.429 --> 00:46:29.329
Who who wrote most? Oh wait, we can't really

00:46:29.329 --> 00:46:31.869
can we talk about that right now? Absolutely.

00:46:32.349 --> 00:46:36.489
Okay Was it was it like a collective thing as

00:46:36.489 --> 00:46:39.050
a band or did Ed come in with most of the stuff?

00:46:39.070 --> 00:46:42.150
How did that work? Cuz like we're running into

00:46:42.150 --> 00:46:44.909
Not not issues cuz like I said Deirdre and I

00:46:44.909 --> 00:46:47.670
are the primary songwriters here Like nobody

00:46:47.670 --> 00:46:51.150
else has written any of the music in terms of

00:46:51.150 --> 00:46:54.449
melody arrangement, etc you know some of them

00:46:54.449 --> 00:46:56.929
like Some of our band members like want to come

00:46:56.929 --> 00:46:59.429
in and start like they want to, you know, have

00:46:59.429 --> 00:47:01.730
a more collaborative effort on songs. And I think

00:47:01.730 --> 00:47:04.750
that's cool for certain songs. But definitely

00:47:04.750 --> 00:47:08.349
I like that to be the vision of the band as well.

00:47:08.650 --> 00:47:12.050
That's cool. Well, the way it worked a lot is,

00:47:12.130 --> 00:47:13.789
I mean, obviously, Ed always wrote the lyrics

00:47:13.789 --> 00:47:16.429
and melody, but the songs would start with a

00:47:16.429 --> 00:47:18.389
guitar part that Chad brought in or sometimes

00:47:18.389 --> 00:47:22.050
a guitar part that Ed brought in. Sometimes songs

00:47:22.050 --> 00:47:26.309
started with a bass part. And, uh, but we all

00:47:26.309 --> 00:47:29.190
worked the magic of the band was that we all

00:47:29.190 --> 00:47:32.650
worked together mostly on the song. So like maybe

00:47:32.650 --> 00:47:35.250
Ed and Chad will go off and like hone their kind

00:47:35.250 --> 00:47:38.789
of like a guitar idea that he had. And then we'll

00:47:38.789 --> 00:47:40.909
start vamping lyrics and getting a little melody

00:47:40.909 --> 00:47:43.110
scratched together. But then we'd bring it into

00:47:43.110 --> 00:47:45.389
a collective where we'd all sit in a room and

00:47:45.389 --> 00:47:48.630
hash out the arrangements and, and figure out

00:47:48.630 --> 00:47:50.929
the parts and like, oh, we should extend this

00:47:50.929 --> 00:47:53.170
or we should do the bridge longer here. work

00:47:53.170 --> 00:47:58.550
on it that way. So yeah, that was kind of the

00:47:58.550 --> 00:48:01.269
process. And that was the magic for live. That

00:48:01.269 --> 00:48:03.210
was where the magic happened with live. Yeah.

00:48:03.389 --> 00:48:07.230
Were there any like major disagreements in terms

00:48:07.230 --> 00:48:09.369
of where the song should go? And then if so,

00:48:09.369 --> 00:48:12.090
how did you work that through, I guess? Oh, yeah,

00:48:12.110 --> 00:48:13.909
there was, I mean, yeah, there's tons of disagreements

00:48:13.909 --> 00:48:16.730
like, oh, yeah, like, we maybe sometimes we get

00:48:16.730 --> 00:48:18.190
to a point in the song, it's like, well, it's

00:48:18.190 --> 00:48:19.889
not going anywhere. Let's scrap it. And some

00:48:19.889 --> 00:48:21.329
people are like, well, you shouldn't scrap it.

00:48:21.839 --> 00:48:23.920
had a little disagreement. We figured it out.

00:48:24.139 --> 00:48:26.719
There was times when, you know, there might be

00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:29.280
an idea brought in and I just me, I'd be like,

00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:30.980
I don't like that. I don't, I don't feel it.

00:48:30.980 --> 00:48:33.239
So I don't want to do it. And, you know, sometimes

00:48:33.239 --> 00:48:35.940
you had to be a Dick and, uh, that happened a

00:48:35.940 --> 00:48:39.340
lot with me. Chad, you had said at one point

00:48:39.340 --> 00:48:43.079
that basically when you guys knew that what was

00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:45.280
going on like the hair on the back of your neck

00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:47.219
stood up like all four of you like collectively

00:48:47.219 --> 00:48:50.280
like this is like the it right now like we're

00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:54.420
we're jamming on this song right now which that's

00:48:54.420 --> 00:48:56.239
what how the magic I guess was happening live

00:48:56.239 --> 00:48:58.900
back then they you know they would all four in

00:48:58.900 --> 00:49:02.659
a room and fucking meld it out I would suggest

00:49:02.659 --> 00:49:04.539
just if you want to suggest and with you guys

00:49:04.539 --> 00:49:06.179
since you're the primary songwriters if you want

00:49:06.179 --> 00:49:09.219
to carve out like a set piece of your publishing

00:49:09.219 --> 00:49:11.829
the to give to band members for their contributions

00:49:11.829 --> 00:49:13.469
say like I don't know if you want to cut out

00:49:13.469 --> 00:49:17.889
like 20 20 or 15 or 10 and say if you guys contribute

00:49:17.889 --> 00:49:20.710
you get part of this 10 or whatever that percentage

00:49:20.710 --> 00:49:23.809
you think would be satisfying but that's honestly

00:49:23.809 --> 00:49:27.269
the way that I've been doing it because like

00:49:27.269 --> 00:49:29.389
I said Deirdre and I are the main songwriters

00:49:29.389 --> 00:49:32.090
and we have all the writing credit and publishing

00:49:32.090 --> 00:49:35.929
because we have like you said separate um I I've

00:49:35.929 --> 00:49:38.309
just been giving the band members whether they

00:49:38.919 --> 00:49:40.860
contributed anything or not, I still give them

00:49:40.860 --> 00:49:44.179
like 10 % or something. Yeah, you know, way to

00:49:44.179 --> 00:49:46.659
do it. So makes it inclusive, gives them gives

00:49:46.659 --> 00:49:50.019
them incentive to contribute. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:49:50.300 --> 00:49:54.039
Yeah. I mean, especially since, you know, you

00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:55.380
guys are all working together. I mean, if you're

00:49:55.380 --> 00:49:56.739
bringing the bulk of the song and they're adding

00:49:56.739 --> 00:49:59.199
their parts, I mean, yeah, that's that's definitely

00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:00.900
a cool way to do it because you guys are all

00:50:00.900 --> 00:50:03.289
in it together. Right. I mean, people are doing

00:50:03.289 --> 00:50:05.829
more of the work. So, yeah, I definitely I definitely

00:50:05.829 --> 00:50:07.210
see that. But if they're coming up with their

00:50:07.210 --> 00:50:08.849
parts and stuff, yeah, that's a good way to do

00:50:08.849 --> 00:50:11.449
it. They're getting alive on mental jewelry.

00:50:11.630 --> 00:50:13.889
We split everything 25 percent as far as publishing.

00:50:14.130 --> 00:50:16.469
And then we started changing that in throwing

00:50:16.469 --> 00:50:18.570
copper. We actually had a big blowout while we

00:50:18.570 --> 00:50:22.210
were making throwing copper because Ed had his

00:50:22.210 --> 00:50:23.929
girlfriend at the time and her name, I forget

00:50:23.929 --> 00:50:26.269
her name, was Beth, I think. And she was a singer

00:50:26.269 --> 00:50:28.690
in another band. She started getting in his ear

00:50:28.690 --> 00:50:30.800
about, oh, you know, you're this. you're the

00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:32.559
main songwriter because you do all the lyrics

00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:34.760
and melody and maybe she was right maybe she's

00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:37.440
not but I mean like bands like U2 have always

00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:40.260
split all publishing 25 percent right because

00:50:40.260 --> 00:50:42.920
they're all doing you know contributing and making

00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:45.500
the songs I don't know what's right or wrong

00:50:45.500 --> 00:50:48.260
it's it's kind of worked for live it's it's it

00:50:48.260 --> 00:50:50.880
created a lot of animosity especially between

00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:53.559
Ed and then Chad and it's kind of like I don't

00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:57.239
know my point is figure it out now don't do it

00:50:57.239 --> 00:51:00.909
later yeah because, because I guess the roles

00:51:00.909 --> 00:51:03.429
weren't so clearly defined back in the day. And

00:51:03.429 --> 00:51:05.630
then Chad Taylor's going over there and saying,

00:51:05.909 --> 00:51:07.829
I wrote lightning crashes or I wrote selling

00:51:07.829 --> 00:51:10.050
the drama. And then fucking ed's like, wait a

00:51:10.050 --> 00:51:12.590
second, dude, like, I'm pretty sure I came up

00:51:12.590 --> 00:51:15.610
with those lyrics and melodies. I mean, famously

00:51:15.610 --> 00:51:17.530
even the Beatles had this fucking problem. So,

00:51:17.590 --> 00:51:20.230
you know, what do you know? Yeah. But I think

00:51:20.230 --> 00:51:23.070
bands like Metallica, you two, the bands that

00:51:23.070 --> 00:51:26.130
seem to work well together kind of just, I think

00:51:26.130 --> 00:51:28.349
most of them just split publishing just here

00:51:28.349 --> 00:51:30.250
you go everyone gets a quarter or whatever it

00:51:30.250 --> 00:51:33.369
is down yeah you guys you guys did split sheets

00:51:33.369 --> 00:51:39.190
right split sheets yeah like so like so if if

00:51:39.190 --> 00:51:42.650
you know like let's say on our most recent single

00:51:42.650 --> 00:51:45.610
skin and bones like if i i know the parts that

00:51:45.610 --> 00:51:47.710
i contributed i know the parts george are contributing

00:51:47.710 --> 00:51:51.349
i so on the split sheet we would write exactly

00:51:51.349 --> 00:51:54.429
who contributed what just to document everything

00:51:54.429 --> 00:51:57.130
this way nobody can go back and say i did this

00:51:57.159 --> 00:51:59.139
or I did that. It's because we have it written

00:51:59.139 --> 00:52:01.460
here and everybody signed it anyway. Yeah, I

00:52:01.460 --> 00:52:04.360
think we did. Yeah, that just wasn't familiar

00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:05.940
with that name. We did something like that for

00:52:05.940 --> 00:52:08.219
sure. Not for nothing. I feel like you heard

00:52:08.219 --> 00:52:11.159
me say skin and bones a lot growing up. I feel

00:52:11.159 --> 00:52:13.840
like you stole that from me. So I should have

00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:17.739
some publishing in that just so we're aware.

00:52:18.139 --> 00:52:21.480
Here we go. Chad, I mean, no, you know, come

00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:24.860
on now. No, but yeah, that's smart to kind of

00:52:24.860 --> 00:52:27.280
tackle it early in fucking split sheets and all

00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:30.139
that jazz because you don't want to end up, you

00:52:30.139 --> 00:52:35.159
know, like Chad, would you say like. If you could

00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:38.599
do this all over again, right, your four friends

00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:41.820
from Pennsylvania who start live and then you

00:52:41.820 --> 00:52:44.960
end up here and now you're no longer friends,

00:52:45.260 --> 00:52:49.440
would you have done it the same way again and

00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:52.539
come up with the same result or would you have

00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:56.420
Not started live and been friends the entire

00:52:56.420 --> 00:53:02.400
time I would still do the band. Yeah, maybe set

00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:04.539
different parameters not necessarily on publishing

00:53:04.539 --> 00:53:07.500
because you know, I mean There's part of me that

00:53:07.500 --> 00:53:09.480
agrees with that on the on the publishing side.

00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:11.059
You should get more because he writes a lyrician

00:53:11.059 --> 00:53:13.480
melody I get that that's fine, but there there's

00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:17.550
just there should have been for us We didn't

00:53:17.550 --> 00:53:19.829
have we never had proper management to manage

00:53:19.829 --> 00:53:22.050
all of our personalities together, especially

00:53:22.050 --> 00:53:26.789
the strong ones which are Chad and Ed and What

00:53:26.789 --> 00:53:29.190
happened basically with us is that those two

00:53:29.190 --> 00:53:32.989
started going at it over whatever and There was

00:53:32.989 --> 00:53:34.989
no one there to go. There's no kind of like father

00:53:34.989 --> 00:53:37.389
figure manager to go. Hey dumbasses shut the

00:53:37.389 --> 00:53:40.070
fuck up Yeah, this is the house gonna be stop

00:53:40.070 --> 00:53:42.329
fighting over this bullshit and like just go

00:53:42.329 --> 00:53:46.960
forward and and then also As I've said many times,

00:53:47.460 --> 00:53:49.260
we should have had band therapy so many times.

00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:52.320
It's like, so I would suggest that too, if you

00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:54.219
want it. If you're getting in the tiffs, have

00:53:54.219 --> 00:53:56.599
some mediator that can go work it out with you.

00:53:57.139 --> 00:54:00.480
That's actually great. Because I think to even

00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:02.559
go back to your other point, John, which you

00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:04.500
said before, like, where do we want to be? I

00:54:04.500 --> 00:54:08.840
think a big thing this year, 2025 in particular,

00:54:08.980 --> 00:54:12.760
we want to find good management so that They

00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:15.519
can set us up for success of of where we're going

00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:17.699
and everything like that, because I think that's

00:54:17.699 --> 00:54:20.019
so important to have, like, good guidance and

00:54:20.019 --> 00:54:23.199
a father figure. Like you said, when, you know,

00:54:23.460 --> 00:54:25.400
personalities clash or there are disagreements

00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:29.000
and stuff like that, just to keep some sort of

00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:31.360
mediation going on and keep everything kind of

00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:33.780
copacetic. That would I agree. I think that that's

00:54:33.780 --> 00:54:35.380
a big thing for us in this year that I'd like

00:54:35.380 --> 00:54:38.420
to accomplish. Well, good manager is key for

00:54:38.420 --> 00:54:41.309
sure. Yeah. Yeah, you need somebody that could

00:54:41.309 --> 00:54:44.730
say, hey, you know, this you're getting a little

00:54:44.730 --> 00:54:46.489
fucking egotistical here. Your head's getting

00:54:46.489 --> 00:54:48.550
a little too big. You guys fucking you need somebody

00:54:48.550 --> 00:54:51.550
to kind of guide you and make sure it's done

00:54:51.550 --> 00:54:54.170
properly. Because if I remember the doors movie

00:54:54.170 --> 00:54:57.630
like that manager trying to get signed the doors

00:54:57.630 --> 00:54:59.610
originally, he was basically telling Jim Morrison,

00:54:59.750 --> 00:55:01.789
like, fuck this band, get rid of them like you're

00:55:01.789 --> 00:55:03.989
the fucking dude. Like so you got to watch out

00:55:03.989 --> 00:55:06.690
for snaky people like that because they will

00:55:06.690 --> 00:55:09.340
try to divide and conquer. And oh, yeah. Yeah.

00:55:10.219 --> 00:55:13.880
And like Chad knows, the magic of live was those

00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:17.199
four guys in a room. And once that division happened,

00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:21.679
that's where the music started to lack. So once,

00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:23.679
yeah, you need somebody to kind of orchestrate

00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:25.900
that and keep you guys fucking on the same page.

00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:29.030
So maybe. He doesn't have the most connections,

00:55:29.070 --> 00:55:31.630
but he's better for your band in that aspect.

00:55:31.869 --> 00:55:33.809
Yeah, our manager, our manager was able to open

00:55:33.809 --> 00:55:35.710
the doors for us and get us a record deal and

00:55:35.710 --> 00:55:37.590
do all those things. And he was good at that,

00:55:37.590 --> 00:55:39.889
but he was not good at managing our personalities

00:55:39.889 --> 00:55:44.329
and like conflict, conflict resolution, controlling

00:55:44.329 --> 00:55:46.829
the egos and like saying, Hey, you know, back

00:55:46.829 --> 00:55:49.250
off with this or stop doing that. It's stupid.

00:55:49.250 --> 00:55:51.269
That was Chris Harden back in the day, Chad.

00:55:51.610 --> 00:55:54.489
No, this was a guy named David Sestek. He was

00:55:54.489 --> 00:55:58.170
very, very key to our success, but just didn't

00:55:58.170 --> 00:56:01.849
lack the, I don't know, lack the skills to manage

00:56:01.849 --> 00:56:05.050
the, the wearables, especially as we, as we were

00:56:05.050 --> 00:56:06.889
taken off. And like this is, he was our manager

00:56:06.889 --> 00:56:10.010
all through the first four records up to, up

00:56:10.010 --> 00:56:12.309
to this year. So that there was a big, you know,

00:56:12.349 --> 00:56:17.130
there was a big, uh, upswing of, of success and

00:56:17.130 --> 00:56:19.429
sure craziness and rock stardom and all that

00:56:19.429 --> 00:56:21.989
good stuff. So I was like, I just wish we had

00:56:21.989 --> 00:56:23.989
someone more powerful and then who took over

00:56:23.989 --> 00:56:26.170
after that just became basically yes, man to

00:56:26.170 --> 00:56:30.550
Ed Chad here's a question Did you notice egos

00:56:30.550 --> 00:56:32.829
growing in the band as the success grew like

00:56:32.829 --> 00:56:36.170
did you see? Because you guys are basically four

00:56:36.170 --> 00:56:38.730
dudes from a small town of Pennsylvania So your

00:56:38.730 --> 00:56:41.550
egos might have been really kind of low at the

00:56:41.550 --> 00:56:43.489
time you guys were coming up in the band but

00:56:43.489 --> 00:56:45.590
then when you got the success did you see egos

00:56:45.590 --> 00:56:49.610
grow and like This is getting on not not a lot

00:56:49.610 --> 00:56:53.250
inwardly like not to us inwardly but outwardly

00:56:53.250 --> 00:56:58.329
you can see it happening. Yeah Yeah Do you Lily's

00:56:58.329 --> 00:57:01.630
a David I'm speaking to you guys have any? inroads

00:57:01.630 --> 00:57:04.329
in there to kind of like that doesn't happen

00:57:04.329 --> 00:57:06.570
you to where you don't let fucking success get

00:57:06.570 --> 00:57:09.849
to your brain and like Kind of forget where you

00:57:09.849 --> 00:57:13.469
came from type of deal Think about those things

00:57:16.539 --> 00:57:21.219
So I haven't come across that issue yet. And

00:57:21.219 --> 00:57:23.139
I think, yeah, I think life always keeps you

00:57:23.139 --> 00:57:26.119
humble, too, in a way. But it's like I think

00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:30.320
about it, to be honest. And I don't know, like

00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:33.639
I think having each other, especially like two

00:57:33.639 --> 00:57:35.880
lead singers and stuff, I think is really good

00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:41.880
to balance us out. I mean, I always because it's

00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:44.159
a fine line, too, because like I believe in our

00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:47.449
music completely. And what we're doing so like

00:57:47.449 --> 00:57:49.769
some people might say like that's a little egotistical

00:57:49.769 --> 00:57:52.550
in a way But like I believe in it so much like,

00:57:53.010 --> 00:57:54.929
you know, I don't give a fuck what they think

00:57:54.929 --> 00:57:57.130
or say anyway Like I know what's gonna happen,

00:57:57.130 --> 00:58:02.150
you know but I it's not I'm not like going out

00:58:02.150 --> 00:58:03.730
and being like I'm the best or anything like

00:58:03.730 --> 00:58:05.389
that because I'm not saying that but it's just

00:58:05.389 --> 00:58:08.210
like I believe in the music and like No, we'll

00:58:08.210 --> 00:58:13.289
do something. Sure So, you know Yeah, believing

00:58:13.289 --> 00:58:15.030
in yourself and ego, I think are two different

00:58:15.030 --> 00:58:17.030
things. You have to have that part of you. That's

00:58:17.030 --> 00:58:18.570
like, no, this is good. I want to put it out

00:58:18.570 --> 00:58:22.570
to the world. You have to have some of that that

00:58:22.570 --> 00:58:24.909
ego. But I think ego is the wrong word. Just

00:58:24.909 --> 00:58:26.530
belief in yourself. You know what I'm saying?

00:58:26.869 --> 00:58:29.090
And sometimes it comes across as ego. But no,

00:58:29.130 --> 00:58:30.670
you have to have belief in yourself and your

00:58:30.670 --> 00:58:33.010
music and know like you're doing it for the right

00:58:33.010 --> 00:58:35.650
reasons. What are the reasons you're doing music?

00:58:35.670 --> 00:58:38.210
Is it for fame? Is it for money? Like, what are

00:58:38.210 --> 00:58:40.389
you doing? Why? Why are you into music? Go ahead.

00:58:40.510 --> 00:58:45.349
Thank you. Go. I just enjoy it a lot. So I'd

00:58:45.349 --> 00:58:49.949
like to see how far it can go. If we can release

00:58:49.949 --> 00:58:54.429
sing our songs and start to make some money and

00:58:54.429 --> 00:58:57.429
more money from it. That's awesome. But that's

00:58:57.429 --> 00:59:00.389
not the reason why it's not fame. It's not money.

00:59:03.010 --> 00:59:07.460
Yeah, those are byproducts. Where does the most

00:59:07.460 --> 00:59:11.239
joy come from in the music process? Is it performing?

00:59:11.460 --> 00:59:14.559
Is it writing? Is it studio time? I really like

00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:18.440
writing. I think writing's a lot of fun. Yeah,

00:59:18.440 --> 00:59:20.559
I like the writing process as well. I think it's

00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:25.219
the most freeing and open, at least for Geirdra

00:59:25.219 --> 00:59:27.260
and I, too. Like she said, some songs I'll write

00:59:27.260 --> 00:59:29.340
all of it. Some songs she'll have more and then

00:59:29.340 --> 00:59:31.059
we'll come together and do different things.

00:59:31.659 --> 00:59:34.239
And no matter who's doing it and when we're doing

00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:38.349
it, it's always super um freeing and creative

00:59:38.349 --> 00:59:40.690
and it's just like the the music and ideas are

00:59:40.690 --> 00:59:42.809
coming to us and that's always a really nice

00:59:42.809 --> 00:59:47.570
feeling um but i i normally would i normally

00:59:47.570 --> 00:59:51.250
hated performing actually i've actually grown

00:59:51.250 --> 00:59:54.670
to yeah like it more and more now as we do it

00:59:54.670 --> 00:59:57.130
more and more um and then the studio i always

00:59:57.130 --> 00:59:59.409
love since i produce it as well like i've always

00:59:59.409 --> 01:00:03.190
loved the studio and getting in there and you

01:00:03.190 --> 01:00:07.079
know doing our thing What was it about the live

01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:09.159
performance that you didn't like? Was it nerves?

01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:16.019
Was it, what was the, uh, I don't know. Like

01:00:16.019 --> 01:00:19.320
maybe it was a little bit of nerves, but I think

01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:22.539
it, I wanted to make sure that, and I think this

01:00:22.539 --> 01:00:24.219
is something we're still developing too, since

01:00:24.219 --> 01:00:28.760
it's, it's a, you know, I can say a newish band.

01:00:29.460 --> 01:00:32.599
We've been doing stuff for a bit and preparing,

01:00:32.860 --> 01:00:34.880
but we just had our first release, and we have

01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:36.800
all of our releases planned out for the year

01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:41.099
in 2026 and everything. But it's a newish band,

01:00:41.099 --> 01:00:44.079
and I think we're still finding our identities

01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:46.780
becoming more clear. But I think some of the

01:00:46.780 --> 01:00:51.760
nerves came from feeling maybe ingenuine on stage

01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:54.800
or a little bit of imposter syndrome in a way.

01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:58.500
Yeah, you know, like, like, like, how can I go

01:00:58.500 --> 01:01:01.260
up there and smile and, you know, give it like,

01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:03.059
I don't know, I felt like sometimes I would see

01:01:03.059 --> 01:01:04.440
it and be like, oh, that person's faking it.

01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:06.699
And I never wanted to come across that way. You

01:01:06.699 --> 01:01:09.400
know, I wanted to be real genuine and the energy

01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:13.260
be there. And now I'm really feeling that so

01:01:13.260 --> 01:01:15.460
I'm actually enjoying it a lot more. But I think

01:01:15.460 --> 01:01:17.940
it was a bit of that, like, am I supposed to

01:01:17.940 --> 01:01:20.219
be here doing this? You know, that sort of thing.

01:01:22.309 --> 01:01:23.989
Chad, did you ever have any of that? Like when

01:01:23.989 --> 01:01:25.469
you guys were first performing and like, did

01:01:25.469 --> 01:01:27.489
you get nerves when you went up like, or was

01:01:27.489 --> 01:01:29.590
it just like exciting and let's go out there

01:01:29.590 --> 01:01:33.929
and do this? Yeah. Yeah. But, um, I never felt

01:01:33.929 --> 01:01:38.269
like, I never felt like what about like imposter

01:01:38.269 --> 01:01:40.309
syndrome. Never felt that, but you know, everyone's

01:01:40.309 --> 01:01:42.230
different, but definitely nerves. Yeah. I mean,

01:01:42.269 --> 01:01:44.329
you nervous and you were so, you were so young.

01:01:44.989 --> 01:01:48.349
We were teenagers and, um, when we were starting

01:01:48.349 --> 01:01:51.639
and We were doing a lot of covers and we started

01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:55.360
writing originals and bleeding those in and That

01:01:55.360 --> 01:01:57.039
was the most that was kind of the most nervous

01:01:57.039 --> 01:01:58.900
is playing your new songs when you're playing

01:01:58.900 --> 01:02:01.320
a cover set and then you thought Here's one of

01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:04.360
our originals like how that's gonna go over but

01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:07.199
Yeah, but you just gotta go out there and I think

01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:10.159
take it till you make it in that that point Yeah,

01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:12.460
you got that's part of the performing as a professional

01:02:12.460 --> 01:02:14.780
performer. You got to sell it, right? That's

01:02:14.780 --> 01:02:18.400
100 % and it has to every time too no matter

01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:21.219
how and that's something that I think I found

01:02:21.219 --> 01:02:24.300
it actually now but it's like no matter how you're

01:02:24.300 --> 01:02:26.239
feeling especially as singers too like because

01:02:26.239 --> 01:02:29.000
your voice changes every day like you wake up

01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:33.300
and the air might be too fucking cold that you

01:02:33.300 --> 01:02:35.960
slept in and now you're gonna wake up your vocal

01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:37.500
cords are gonna be in a different place so you

01:02:37.500 --> 01:02:39.619
have to calibrate every day and no matter what

01:02:39.619 --> 01:02:41.960
you have to go out no better what you're feeling

01:02:41.960 --> 01:02:44.659
thinking whatever and stay consistent and give

01:02:44.659 --> 01:02:47.159
the audience a good show And so I think that's

01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:49.639
where like you start to separate from doing it

01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:51.880
for fun to this is a professional thing now,

01:02:51.900 --> 01:02:57.820
you know. Yeah. Have you guys gotten to the part

01:02:57.820 --> 01:03:01.079
where you could just let loose on stage and like

01:03:01.079 --> 01:03:03.039
have that fun, like because I'm sure when you

01:03:03.039 --> 01:03:04.940
guys are like practicing wherever you guys practice

01:03:04.940 --> 01:03:06.860
stuff like that, like that's probably where you

01:03:06.860 --> 01:03:08.920
feel kind of free and your vibe is out there

01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:11.929
and stuff. But do you get like on stage where

01:03:11.929 --> 01:03:14.429
you're having fun and just like forget this performance?

01:03:14.449 --> 01:03:16.250
We don't need to be perfect Let's go out there

01:03:16.250 --> 01:03:18.750
and fucking rock and have fun. Are you getting

01:03:18.750 --> 01:03:21.570
that vibes or is it like this is serious performance?

01:03:24.389 --> 01:03:27.050
I would say good. We don't take it serious at

01:03:27.050 --> 01:03:29.210
all. I mean, like, obviously, we want to be good.

01:03:29.230 --> 01:03:30.929
So like, we'll rehearse and stuff. But like,

01:03:31.309 --> 01:03:33.690
you can't have the mind like you can't go in

01:03:33.690 --> 01:03:35.309
there with the mindset of I'm going to fuck this

01:03:35.309 --> 01:03:37.309
up, or I have to sing this high C or something

01:03:37.309 --> 01:03:38.829
like you can't even think about that, because

01:03:38.829 --> 01:03:41.469
then you probably will fuck it up. So like, it's

01:03:41.469 --> 01:03:44.329
live shit happens, go out and have fun. And if

01:03:44.329 --> 01:03:45.889
you're having fun, the audience will likely have

01:03:45.889 --> 01:03:52.599
fun too. Hell yeah. Are you are you guys coordinating

01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:55.840
outfits like the Beatles did and wearing some

01:03:55.840 --> 01:03:59.239
cool shit we started Yeah, I was gonna say we

01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:07.320
started yeah So now with the With the like social

01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:09.980
media the videos and stuff like that. Is this

01:04:09.980 --> 01:04:12.199
stuff that you guys are part of the creative

01:04:12.199 --> 01:04:14.179
process? Are you putting this on other people?

01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:16.099
How does that come about when you guys are putting

01:04:16.099 --> 01:04:20.630
together a video or? whatever so uh yeah i mean

01:04:20.630 --> 01:04:22.949
we have a great like a really good team right

01:04:22.949 --> 01:04:25.449
now like social media team uh and photographer

01:04:25.449 --> 01:04:28.289
and videographer and stuff and so like we always

01:04:28.289 --> 01:04:31.650
have a uh and i'd say more because Deirdre is

01:04:31.650 --> 01:04:35.269
probably naturally more busy busier than i am

01:04:35.269 --> 01:04:38.369
so i've kind of like stepped into helping with

01:04:38.369 --> 01:04:41.590
the content as well so like we have a say in

01:04:41.590 --> 01:04:43.769
the content and stuff like that but we still

01:04:43.769 --> 01:04:47.440
have somebody posting for us and I have access

01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:49.679
to the socials too. So, you know, if I am commenting

01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:52.320
like, you know, there are some comments that

01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:54.300
come from me and stuff too. So I am interacting

01:04:54.300 --> 01:04:57.500
with people that do like our music, but we do

01:04:57.500 --> 01:04:59.739
have a great like social media team and videographer

01:04:59.739 --> 01:05:02.420
and photographer and stuff. So it's definitely

01:05:02.420 --> 01:05:04.260
starts with Deirdre and I like with the vision

01:05:04.260 --> 01:05:06.980
and then we go out and explain it to them. And,

01:05:07.159 --> 01:05:08.960
you know, they help us execute it and stuff.

01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:15.400
So. Now the name lilies of David it almost seems

01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:19.460
biblical. Is that Any truth to that where we

01:05:19.460 --> 01:05:23.900
come up with the name? Um, we were So there were

01:05:23.900 --> 01:05:28.159
a couple iterations of the of the band the band

01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:32.360
name some really bad ones too, like What were

01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:34.980
some of them being do you remember? Academy Hill

01:05:34.980 --> 01:05:39.179
was one stupid stupid and then Yeah, Academy

01:05:39.179 --> 01:05:43.059
Hill stupid names. I'll give you ours after you

01:05:43.059 --> 01:05:47.440
give me yours. Okay. Academy Hill. I don't remember.

01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:50.920
I think one because I was... You were in a dream

01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:53.619
or something. Abhi might like this one because

01:05:53.619 --> 01:05:56.000
I was really... I mean, I still am into investing

01:05:56.000 --> 01:05:58.420
in crypto, but I think we're going to go with

01:05:58.420 --> 01:06:01.139
Ethereum at one point because I'm a big fan of

01:06:01.139 --> 01:06:04.659
Ethereum. So there were some bad ones in there,

01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:08.840
but Lilies of David really came organically and...

01:06:08.909 --> 01:06:12.809
And I shared it with Deirdre and she liked it.

01:06:12.829 --> 01:06:16.110
And then the band liked it. And so we kept it.

01:06:16.190 --> 01:06:18.269
And it's been working. And ever since I remember

01:06:18.269 --> 01:06:21.650
the first show, we went out. That was nerve wracking.

01:06:21.789 --> 01:06:25.750
The open mic. Yeah, the open mic. And they said,

01:06:25.889 --> 01:06:28.409
Lilies of David. And I was waiting to feel if

01:06:28.409 --> 01:06:30.829
I felt uncomfortable or not. But it felt right.

01:06:31.710 --> 01:06:34.369
And everybody liked it. So we kept it. You know,

01:06:34.590 --> 01:06:37.670
if you guys, when you guys make it and be famous,

01:06:37.849 --> 01:06:40.750
everyone's gonna call you David. Yeah, they thought

01:06:40.750 --> 01:06:43.329
I was Lily yesterday. Exactly, you're gonna be

01:06:43.329 --> 01:06:45.710
Lily and you're gonna be David. Already happening.

01:06:46.869 --> 01:06:49.389
Just like booty. They're like, what's up, Lily?

01:06:49.489 --> 01:06:53.789
I'm like, nothing. I just rolled with it. Yeah.

01:06:54.349 --> 01:06:57.989
They actually, somebody messaged me too, or messaged

01:06:57.989 --> 01:07:01.510
the Lily's a David account. Or no, was it? Yeah,

01:07:01.510 --> 01:07:03.500
it was the Lily's a David account. And they said,

01:07:03.500 --> 01:07:07.239
um, this is for David, uh, and, and like, continue

01:07:07.239 --> 01:07:09.739
to like, it was something I forget what it was

01:07:09.739 --> 01:07:11.840
PR or something. And we were just like, yep,

01:07:11.980 --> 01:07:16.059
sounds good. It's like, there's no lilies and

01:07:16.059 --> 01:07:22.039
no Davids in this band. Get it right. Uh, so

01:07:22.039 --> 01:07:24.000
what's the plan here? Are you guys going to do,

01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:28.360
uh, like singles, uh, all like before the album

01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:32.469
or you guys plan on, uh, doing. like a full album,

01:07:32.510 --> 01:07:36.210
like what is the the the release schedule or

01:07:36.210 --> 01:07:39.070
whatever? We're doing like a five to six week

01:07:39.070 --> 01:07:41.449
release schedule of singles for twenty twenty

01:07:41.449 --> 01:07:44.690
five and like probably seven singles. And then

01:07:44.690 --> 01:07:47.710
we're going to call many those seven singles

01:07:47.710 --> 01:07:50.750
plus an additional three into a full album for

01:07:50.750 --> 01:07:52.789
the beginning or the end of twenty twenty five.

01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:55.739
So, you know, we have our next release in March,

01:07:55.860 --> 01:07:57.860
and then five to six weeks after that, we'll

01:07:57.860 --> 01:08:00.019
have another single release, single release,

01:08:00.019 --> 01:08:01.980
and then it'll all come into an album at the

01:08:01.980 --> 01:08:04.579
end. And then we'll push that for all of 2026

01:08:04.579 --> 01:08:08.139
or as long as we can. And then we'll be working

01:08:08.139 --> 01:08:12.840
on the new stuff in the meantime, too. But yeah,

01:08:12.900 --> 01:08:16.420
we definitely live in a singles world right now

01:08:16.420 --> 01:08:19.000
in terms of like music, from what I've observed,

01:08:19.079 --> 01:08:23.039
at least. Oh, yeah. Your songs are catchy. I

01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:25.239
mean, I could totally see them. I mean, they

01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:28.039
got commercial value. They got, you know, they

01:08:28.039 --> 01:08:29.939
could I could see him being in movies. I could

01:08:29.939 --> 01:08:32.920
see him being a podcast theme. If you guys want

01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:35.779
to write a theme for us, we're looking as long

01:08:35.779 --> 01:08:38.939
as Chad can drum on it. Yeah, I can play. Sure.

01:08:39.239 --> 01:08:44.739
There we go. I play the piano with my penis like

01:08:44.739 --> 01:08:47.680
President Zelinsky of Ukraine. So if you guys.

01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:50.550
Yes. If you guys want some of that. Uh, let me

01:08:50.550 --> 01:08:53.810
know. I play a good, uh, a good, uh, eenie meenie.

01:08:53.930 --> 01:08:57.489
What did you guys call them? Midget GI Joe? Uh,

01:08:57.829 --> 01:09:04.250
half Mike GI Joe. Oh, crazy world. So do you

01:09:04.250 --> 01:09:07.250
guys get into, uh, politics as a, as a young

01:09:07.250 --> 01:09:09.010
band? Are you staying away from that? What are

01:09:09.010 --> 01:09:12.590
we doing? I would say stay away from that. I'm

01:09:12.590 --> 01:09:15.210
pretty center. I'm pretty good. There you go.

01:09:15.310 --> 01:09:18.420
Good. Good. Good. Nobody wants to hear your politics

01:09:18.420 --> 01:09:21.880
on stage. We'll tell you that now. Either way,

01:09:22.359 --> 01:09:27.859
if you want, get a podcast if you want. Bill

01:09:27.859 --> 01:09:30.920
Hines says you need me on cowbell in the band,

01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:35.020
just so you folks are aware. I'm open. I'll get

01:09:35.020 --> 01:09:40.039
a stripper pole and a cowbell. I'm in. But Jer,

01:09:40.119 --> 01:09:42.880
where did you get into music? Like, did you have

01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:44.920
an influence or something like an older brother

01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:47.199
that maybe got you into guitar or something?

01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:50.159
Like, how did you get into that world? Yeah,

01:09:51.579 --> 01:09:53.720
my manager who robbed me of all our money. Yeah,

01:09:53.720 --> 01:10:00.640
no. That Sanders. Yeah, Tom robbed all my money.

01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:05.460
Yeah, definitely. We actually do have an Uncle

01:10:05.460 --> 01:10:10.800
Tom. He's retarded, but he's dead. Yeah, he's

01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:15.000
dead. By the way. Jokes here, folks. He is dead.

01:10:15.140 --> 01:10:16.939
But I don't know why I'm joking about our dead

01:10:16.939 --> 01:10:20.039
Uncle Tom. Anyway, go ahead. Back to what we're

01:10:20.039 --> 01:10:23.159
talking about. You know, you definitely you you

01:10:23.159 --> 01:10:26.420
were always playing guitar and I definitely liked

01:10:26.420 --> 01:10:30.699
it. And I remember you bought me my first guitar.

01:10:30.939 --> 01:10:33.199
I think there's like a photo somewhere laying

01:10:33.199 --> 01:10:35.439
around too. I was like super excited and happy.

01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:40.239
But yeah, you definitely, I would say even you

01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:43.720
probably were the biggest influence because without

01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:45.739
you playing guitar, getting me into it, I would

01:10:45.739 --> 01:10:47.779
have never found music in this capacity. I've

01:10:47.779 --> 01:10:50.359
always liked listening as an audience member,

01:10:50.579 --> 01:10:52.619
but I would have probably never started writing

01:10:52.619 --> 01:10:55.000
or anything. And I remember when I was doing

01:10:55.000 --> 01:10:56.920
a lot of theater and musical theater and acting

01:10:56.920 --> 01:10:59.520
and stuff, you said, why don't you go into music

01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:01.779
full time. And that was like years before I even

01:11:01.779 --> 01:11:05.680
started Lilies of David. And I was like, no,

01:11:05.779 --> 01:11:07.420
we're not, you know, I'm not good enough in that

01:11:07.420 --> 01:11:09.579
sense. Like, you know, like I just like playing

01:11:09.579 --> 01:11:11.640
it and stuff like that. But if I listen to you

01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:14.539
then we probably even further now, you know what

01:11:14.539 --> 01:11:20.680
I mean? So. Well, it was it's cool, Chad. So

01:11:20.680 --> 01:11:22.399
getting to show my younger brother just like

01:11:22.399 --> 01:11:26.409
some stuff on the guitar and then within. months,

01:11:26.470 --> 01:11:29.149
he was like way better than me at it. So it was

01:11:29.149 --> 01:11:31.149
kind of cool to show him a couple of chords and

01:11:31.149 --> 01:11:33.189
then just watch him progress. And I'm like, oh,

01:11:33.189 --> 01:11:35.270
this shit, this little kid is fucking taken over

01:11:35.270 --> 01:11:39.069
here. So it was cool to see. And he picked it

01:11:39.069 --> 01:11:41.909
up real quick. He was worried like seven, dude,

01:11:41.970 --> 01:11:45.029
when you picked up your first guitar, something

01:11:45.029 --> 01:11:50.010
young man. Yeah, there's like. We have like photos

01:11:50.010 --> 01:11:55.359
like him mad young playing guitar. the good old

01:11:55.359 --> 01:11:58.539
days. Deirdre, how'd you get into music though?

01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:01.319
I actually got a Christmas present too, but it

01:12:01.319 --> 01:12:04.859
was from my mom. She got me a keyboard. So I

01:12:04.859 --> 01:12:07.399
just started noodling around on the keyboard

01:12:07.399 --> 01:12:10.300
and then singing along to it, playing basic chords.

01:12:10.659 --> 01:12:14.140
I just really enjoyed it. So I just kept playing

01:12:14.140 --> 01:12:17.020
around with covering different songs. And then

01:12:17.020 --> 01:12:21.180
I met Jeremy, showed him some things I have recorded.

01:12:21.700 --> 01:12:25.880
And he told me that I should pursue music. And

01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:29.619
that's what got me going. And here we are. She

01:12:29.619 --> 01:12:32.420
was naturally just a good singer too. Like she,

01:12:32.520 --> 01:12:34.939
cause I wasn't expecting it. Like cause we were

01:12:34.939 --> 01:12:37.159
just starting dating at that time and stuff too.

01:12:37.199 --> 01:12:39.159
And she showed me, I was like, holy shit. Like

01:12:39.159 --> 01:12:41.520
you can sit like you, you have good pitch and

01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:44.340
like naturally just really good pitching a good

01:12:44.340 --> 01:12:46.319
ear. I was like, you can sing. You should like

01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:48.460
think about that. And then we started. throughout

01:12:48.460 --> 01:12:50.640
our relationship just started like writing together

01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:52.560
and that's kind of organically how it happened.

01:12:52.819 --> 01:12:56.180
But yeah, she definitely was naturally a good

01:12:56.180 --> 01:12:59.199
singer without any lessons or anything. Very

01:12:59.199 --> 01:13:04.180
cool. Nice. Wow. That is very cool. Yeah. I mean,

01:13:04.619 --> 01:13:07.699
Chad, do you do any singing? I sang backups on

01:13:07.699 --> 01:13:12.760
the first two records. Yeah. Really? I did not

01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:15.930
know that. I was trying to be funny here. Really?

01:13:16.130 --> 01:13:18.029
Before my balls dropped. Get the fuck out of

01:13:18.029 --> 01:13:21.529
here. No, it's like high parts in like Pain Lies

01:13:21.529 --> 01:13:27.069
on Riverside. And it's like if they're all the

01:13:27.069 --> 01:13:31.130
song horse. The high part. Yeah. The high melody

01:13:31.130 --> 01:13:35.930
back up part on that. That's me. Get the fuck

01:13:35.930 --> 01:13:38.710
out of here. How cool. There was a untitled track

01:13:38.710 --> 01:13:42.430
called Horse on Throwing Copper. That was like

01:13:42.430 --> 01:13:44.510
a kind of a country song, right? That's cool.

01:13:46.970 --> 01:13:48.989
Speaking of that chat because it just sparks

01:13:48.989 --> 01:13:52.510
on my brain that was like such a different take

01:13:52.510 --> 01:13:55.569
from all the rest of your music like Where did

01:13:55.569 --> 01:14:01.930
that song come from? I don't even know the practice

01:14:01.930 --> 01:14:04.949
and how even evolved I can't even remember But

01:14:04.949 --> 01:14:07.130
I know I know we were like, oh do we want to

01:14:07.130 --> 01:14:09.369
put like because everyone was doing secret tracks

01:14:09.369 --> 01:14:12.449
at that point on CDs So yeah, it's our secret.

01:14:12.489 --> 01:14:15.159
Yeah, you know, we won't give it a title But

01:14:15.159 --> 01:14:18.460
yeah, I was, I sang backups on the first record

01:14:18.460 --> 01:14:21.220
while we were on tour and we were starting to

01:14:21.220 --> 01:14:25.159
like really get kind of a heavier with the playing

01:14:25.159 --> 01:14:28.560
and Chad started, you know, playing more like

01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:30.640
a distorted guitar. And we just, at some point

01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:32.819
I was just like, I don't want to, I don't want

01:14:32.819 --> 01:14:35.060
to play drums and saying, I'm, this is like too

01:14:35.060 --> 01:14:40.100
much. Phil Collins over there, bro. Look at you.

01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:46.039
Sue, Sue, Sudia or whatever. Kind of love Phil

01:14:46.039 --> 01:14:48.260
Collins, man. Do can you believe that that's

01:14:48.260 --> 01:14:50.880
a thing that he ruined Genesis? I think he fucking

01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:53.579
added to Genesis. I like me some Phil Collins.

01:14:54.020 --> 01:14:56.859
Am I alone here? I was like Phil Collins. Did

01:14:56.859 --> 01:15:00.979
he ruin Genesis? I never heard that. That's the

01:15:00.979 --> 01:15:03.859
rumor, bro, that he made me want to get rid of

01:15:03.859 --> 01:15:06.020
Gabriel and fucking take it over and do it himself.

01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:10.460
Who knows? That's it. I heard he blew Peter Gabriel

01:15:10.460 --> 01:15:15.550
out of the band anyway. But yeah, so I'm joining

01:15:15.550 --> 01:15:21.909
lilies of David and I'm taking over As a Phil

01:15:21.909 --> 01:15:27.130
Collins style, yeah, baby But so how now do you

01:15:27.130 --> 01:15:30.890
guys have any bands like that you? Unlike that

01:15:30.890 --> 01:15:33.630
you tour with or any friends that you any bands

01:15:33.630 --> 01:15:35.210
that you made friends with or anything like that

01:15:35.210 --> 01:15:37.609
that you could kind of see Maybe put in like

01:15:37.609 --> 01:15:40.350
a little college tour together like you and fucking

01:15:40.350 --> 01:15:43.279
yeah, I don't know. There's like a there's a

01:15:43.279 --> 01:15:46.819
I feel like every band we we meet we just all

01:15:46.819 --> 01:15:49.659
we we like them all you know we haven't ran into

01:15:49.659 --> 01:15:54.079
like any dickheads really yet you know oh you

01:15:54.079 --> 01:15:58.140
will yeah I'm sure but I'm you know we're very

01:15:58.140 --> 01:16:01.600
like I try to keep to myself too I I don't if

01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:04.979
if another band comes up to me and talks great

01:16:04.979 --> 01:16:07.100
but I'm not like going out of my way you know

01:16:07.100 --> 01:16:11.220
just because like I like to protect ourself myself

01:16:11.220 --> 01:16:13.840
and the rest of the band and stuff. So, um, but

01:16:13.840 --> 01:16:16.020
yeah, there's a bunch of like great bands we've

01:16:16.020 --> 01:16:18.260
connected with. And I would love to do like,

01:16:18.260 --> 01:16:21.060
um, and maybe an East coast tour in the fall

01:16:21.060 --> 01:16:24.819
or something with, yeah. You might get to a scenario

01:16:24.819 --> 01:16:27.199
where your crew fucks up the relationship because

01:16:27.199 --> 01:16:31.279
something happened. We, uh, uh, Dave Matthews

01:16:31.279 --> 01:16:36.220
band opened for us back in like 1991 or 92 in

01:16:36.220 --> 01:16:37.939
Richmond, Virginia. They were big in Richmond.

01:16:38.260 --> 01:16:40.340
We for having success with their first record

01:16:40.340 --> 01:16:42.640
and they opened for us and something went down

01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:44.319
with our crews. I still don't even know what

01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:46.180
the fuck happened. They hate us to this day.

01:16:46.340 --> 01:16:50.180
Like, really? Yeah, dude. It's like, wasn't us.

01:16:50.180 --> 01:16:51.659
It was our crew. I don't know what the hell happened.

01:16:51.819 --> 01:16:55.819
But yeah, anyway. Yeah. Two of my favorite bands.

01:16:55.819 --> 01:16:58.659
Fucking Warring. I bet the crew members ending.

01:17:00.020 --> 01:17:04.819
God damn them. But yes, I mean, do you when you

01:17:04.819 --> 01:17:07.930
guys go to these shows like is your music Like,

01:17:07.970 --> 01:17:09.829
are you playing with like hard because I remember

01:17:09.829 --> 01:17:12.050
going back to shows like back in the day and

01:17:12.050 --> 01:17:14.210
like the Jersey music scene, it was like really

01:17:14.210 --> 01:17:18.090
hard, fucking heavy bands like in Jersey, like

01:17:18.090 --> 01:17:21.229
playing. Are you guys finding like similar artists

01:17:21.229 --> 01:17:24.649
on bills that you're doing? Or is it like all

01:17:24.649 --> 01:17:26.630
different types of bands like kind of on the

01:17:26.630 --> 01:17:29.390
way we try to find, you know, bills that fit

01:17:29.390 --> 01:17:31.789
us for sure that we could add something to, you

01:17:31.789 --> 01:17:34.789
know, like because I think that just makes the

01:17:34.789 --> 01:17:38.479
whole experience better if it's kind of If somebody's

01:17:38.479 --> 01:17:41.600
going for all pop rock, which is what we are

01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:44.020
then, you know, great, you know, but we're also

01:17:44.020 --> 01:17:47.680
I think we would stick out if we were on a bill

01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:50.600
with like heavy metal bands or, you know, like,

01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:54.159
I think it would, you know, I don't know, I don't

01:17:54.159 --> 01:17:56.060
I don't want to give somebody something they're

01:17:56.060 --> 01:18:00.750
not looking to listen to, you know. Yeah. Would

01:18:00.750 --> 01:18:03.090
you if let's say you walked into a show, you

01:18:03.090 --> 01:18:04.930
don't know the bands on the bill. You walk in,

01:18:04.989 --> 01:18:07.869
it's like a heavy fucking just heavy crowd. Everybody's

01:18:07.869 --> 01:18:10.170
wearing black. Do you have any songs you could

01:18:10.170 --> 01:18:12.949
pull out where you're like raw, raw, raw, raw,

01:18:12.949 --> 01:18:15.050
raw, raw? You know, like, can you get some of

01:18:15.050 --> 01:18:20.130
those heavy, heavy, heavy jams? Yeah, maybe not

01:18:20.130 --> 01:18:22.550
me. I can't I can't really do the screamo yell

01:18:22.550 --> 01:18:24.590
type stuff. The best, the heaviest I can get

01:18:24.590 --> 01:18:27.329
is like Nirvana, like Kurt Cobain distortion.

01:18:27.529 --> 01:18:30.619
That's the heaviest I can get. Vocally. That

01:18:30.619 --> 01:18:34.100
was a limp this. Yeah, people were asking us

01:18:34.100 --> 01:18:36.380
to play Limp Bizkit last night. I was like, dude,

01:18:36.439 --> 01:18:39.319
I've never I was like, I've listened to one Limp

01:18:39.319 --> 01:18:42.180
Bizkit song and it was them covering behind the

01:18:42.180 --> 01:18:45.840
lines. No, I'm covering. Was it the who? Right.

01:18:46.039 --> 01:18:50.500
We did it all for the nookie. Yeah, the nookie.

01:18:50.600 --> 01:18:54.319
Come on, the nookie and stick it up. Yeah, stick

01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:57.720
it up. Yeah. Fred Thurman, that guy. Got a lot

01:18:57.720 --> 01:19:01.319
of vagina. I think he was a he was a banging

01:19:01.319 --> 01:19:06.100
the ladies. God bless him. He did it all for

01:19:06.100 --> 01:19:10.380
the nookie is right. Yeah, but it's got to be

01:19:10.380 --> 01:19:12.560
fun up there, though. I mean, getting out performing.

01:19:12.939 --> 01:19:17.739
Do you do you guys like I'm trying to think like

01:19:17.739 --> 01:19:20.670
what you could do to. get rid of the nerves.

01:19:20.670 --> 01:19:22.729
Chad, like, is there is there some kind of thing

01:19:22.729 --> 01:19:25.430
they could do, like maybe smelling salts or something

01:19:25.430 --> 01:19:28.430
they could sniff before to get rid of the smell?

01:19:28.630 --> 01:19:31.270
I've heard of them. Yeah, I've heard like a new

01:19:31.270 --> 01:19:33.449
thing is bubbling under like smelling salts.

01:19:33.630 --> 01:19:37.229
It is. Yeah, I don't. I mean, I don't know. Like

01:19:37.229 --> 01:19:40.329
I said, I would just maybe be nervous before

01:19:40.329 --> 01:19:42.729
the show and I would sit down like first note,

01:19:42.909 --> 01:19:44.529
my nerves just go away because I was like into

01:19:44.529 --> 01:19:47.590
the zone. So yeah, I don't know what place to

01:19:47.590 --> 01:19:53.279
get for that. No, no installs I Think we're in

01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:55.500
a pretty good flow right now with terms of nerves

01:19:55.500 --> 01:19:58.560
like I I haven't really it's been pretty Excitement

01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:02.119
for me and I think think to year two like I've

01:20:02.119 --> 01:20:04.000
definitely seen her come a long way with the

01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:06.180
nerves as well So I don't know where I think

01:20:06.180 --> 01:20:08.699
we're doing good in that aspect I will tell you

01:20:08.699 --> 01:20:13.760
this the last show that I was nervous for This

01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:17.670
was funny, but I I somehow got responsible with

01:20:17.670 --> 01:20:22.270
bringing the drum equipment. So the to the game

01:20:22.270 --> 01:20:25.149
for Karen, because I don't we filled in we were

01:20:25.149 --> 01:20:27.289
opening for this band called American Aquarium

01:20:27.289 --> 01:20:29.829
at House of Independence. And we got asked to

01:20:29.829 --> 01:20:31.970
join the bill like pretty late on like probably

01:20:31.970 --> 01:20:35.010
a week out. And so I just told the band like,

01:20:35.170 --> 01:20:36.729
Hey, I think we should do this. It's a good band

01:20:36.729 --> 01:20:40.750
to like, to play for and meet and connect with

01:20:40.750 --> 01:20:43.340
and they're like, cool. So we did it. But everybody

01:20:43.340 --> 01:20:45.399
was coming from work and stuff. So Derek was

01:20:45.399 --> 01:20:47.359
like, Can you bring my drum stuff? And I was

01:20:47.359 --> 01:20:49.140
like, Yeah, sure. And I was like, still packing

01:20:49.140 --> 01:20:51.239
up all my guitar stuff. I have our in ear rack

01:20:51.239 --> 01:20:53.659
and everything else that I'm bringing. And I

01:20:53.659 --> 01:20:56.159
forgot, what did I forget? Think I forgot his

01:20:56.159 --> 01:21:03.000
kick pedal. I forgot his boy snare drum. I forgot

01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:06.260
I think like a rack tom or something too. So

01:21:06.260 --> 01:21:08.760
I get there. I'm like, wait, this is like three

01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:11.399
pieces of the drum set. and we go on I thought

01:21:11.399 --> 01:21:13.279
we're going on at seven so I thought Derek would

01:21:13.279 --> 01:21:16.659
have enough time to to get the the drum equipment

01:21:16.659 --> 01:21:17.960
and then they're like by the way guys you're

01:21:17.960 --> 01:21:21.180
on at 6 30 and it was six o 'clock at that point

01:21:21.180 --> 01:21:23.840
I was like holy fuck I was like we're not I was

01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:26.439
freaking out so we went to guitar center luckily

01:21:26.439 --> 01:21:29.279
it was 10 minutes away and we were able to rent

01:21:29.279 --> 01:21:34.039
everything in time Wow, I was shitting my pants

01:21:34.039 --> 01:21:37.479
and we have it all The videographer thought it

01:21:37.479 --> 01:21:39.680
was yeah for all you guys I was stressing the

01:21:39.680 --> 01:21:42.039
fuck out they were videotaping everything before

01:21:42.039 --> 01:21:45.979
too. So yeah That's great. That's good content

01:21:48.810 --> 01:21:52.649
Not only did I help my brother by showing him

01:21:52.649 --> 01:21:54.630
a couple of chords on the guitar, but I also

01:21:54.630 --> 01:21:59.350
was able to hire him at one point to work for

01:21:59.350 --> 01:22:03.029
this company that I had ran at one point. And

01:22:03.029 --> 01:22:07.130
since he is the brother of the owner, he didn't

01:22:07.130 --> 01:22:12.189
have to go in on time. So he figured out how

01:22:12.189 --> 01:22:17.050
to go late all the time. So he's a late person.

01:22:17.449 --> 01:22:19.390
Every every time he goes anywhere, he's always

01:22:19.390 --> 01:22:21.590
like a couple of minutes. Not for the band gigs,

01:22:21.590 --> 01:22:23.890
though. I've been pretty I'm pretty responsible

01:22:23.890 --> 01:22:26.250
with with that stuff. I think I've outgrown that

01:22:26.250 --> 01:22:28.329
a little bit just because like, you know, you

01:22:28.329 --> 01:22:31.470
have if you're late to that, I mean, I don't

01:22:31.470 --> 01:22:34.109
know what happens at that point. Right. You're

01:22:34.109 --> 01:22:36.390
earlier on time. That's right. On time, you're

01:22:36.390 --> 01:22:41.130
late. Yep. Dude, those I used to hate hearing

01:22:41.130 --> 01:22:44.229
that from fucking bosses. If you're fucking early,

01:22:44.350 --> 01:22:46.590
you're on time. If you're on time, you're late.

01:22:46.869 --> 01:22:50.869
You do pretty sure. You probably said that to

01:22:50.869 --> 01:22:54.890
me a few times at Gorilla Babes. Yeah, probably,

01:22:55.350 --> 01:23:00.989
probably. But yes, all exciting time. So that's

01:23:00.989 --> 01:23:02.590
the deal. So we're going to do seven singles,

01:23:02.649 --> 01:23:04.729
man. That's a lot of singles. How many did we

01:23:04.729 --> 01:23:07.270
have on throwing copper, Chad? How many singles?

01:23:07.750 --> 01:23:10.939
Oh, yeah, three. And then all over you became

01:23:10.939 --> 01:23:13.119
kind of de facto for single. We didn't officially

01:23:13.119 --> 01:23:18.359
put it out. So three, three official. Wow. I

01:23:18.359 --> 01:23:19.800
feel like that should have been a single. That

01:23:19.800 --> 01:23:22.939
was a radio. Simultaneously, like all across

01:23:22.939 --> 01:23:24.579
the country started playing it after lightning

01:23:24.579 --> 01:23:27.220
crashes. Just kind of picked up. We didn't officially

01:23:27.220 --> 01:23:29.000
put it out and we didn't make a video for it.

01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:32.960
But anyway, three singles. You guys were signed

01:23:32.960 --> 01:23:35.699
on that, though, right? Unthrown copper. Yeah,

01:23:35.699 --> 01:23:37.539
we were signed from our first record, mental

01:23:37.539 --> 01:23:40.020
jewelry. Yeah, we signed. We signed in 91, our

01:23:40.020 --> 01:23:43.180
first. We signed in 91, made a record in summer

01:23:43.180 --> 01:23:45.800
91. The first single came out in November of

01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:49.020
91. The record came out in New Year's Eve 91.

01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:55.319
Yeah, so Chad told a cool story. So I guess it

01:23:55.319 --> 01:23:57.939
was 94. They were on like a tour or something,

01:23:57.939 --> 01:23:59.880
and then they came back and like they were kind

01:23:59.880 --> 01:24:01.960
of in a touring bubble. Like he didn't realize

01:24:01.960 --> 01:24:05.439
like how big the band had gotten. After touring

01:24:05.439 --> 01:24:10.640
for Thorin Copper. Yeah. And then Chad goes back

01:24:10.640 --> 01:24:12.739
to like York, Pennsylvania for a family party

01:24:12.739 --> 01:24:14.979
and like his cousins are asking him for autographs

01:24:14.979 --> 01:24:17.380
and shit. And he's like, Oh, it was worse than

01:24:17.380 --> 01:24:20.500
that. Like it was the, it was Christmas. This

01:24:20.500 --> 01:24:23.619
is a Christmas party that my mom's cousin has

01:24:23.619 --> 01:24:27.220
had every year. I still go to it now, but every

01:24:27.220 --> 01:24:29.460
year they have a Christmas Eve party. And I had

01:24:29.460 --> 01:24:32.420
been to that thing like many, many times at that

01:24:32.420 --> 01:24:35.779
point. I think I was 24 or 24 years, basically

01:24:35.779 --> 01:24:38.550
going to the same Christmas party. Christmas

01:24:38.550 --> 01:24:43.029
Eve, and I get there, and there's a bunch of

01:24:43.029 --> 01:24:44.609
other new people. I'm like, who the fuck are

01:24:44.609 --> 01:24:47.270
all these people? And it's all of my cousins,

01:24:47.649 --> 01:24:51.510
my great cousins' friends. And they put me, they

01:24:51.510 --> 01:24:53.430
cornered me in this back room, and I'm just like,

01:24:53.510 --> 01:24:55.390
what the fuck is going on? And they're all like,

01:24:55.649 --> 01:24:57.310
autographs and taking pictures. And I was like,

01:24:57.390 --> 01:25:00.770
hey, I'm still the same guy that was here last

01:25:00.770 --> 01:25:02.430
year. I just came here for some ham and some

01:25:02.430 --> 01:25:06.590
cookies. You know? That's when I kind of like,

01:25:06.590 --> 01:25:09.630
oh, shit, we're like, we're huge. OK, got it.

01:25:10.470 --> 01:25:13.710
Let's see. Jared, I don't know if you know this,

01:25:13.970 --> 01:25:16.470
but Aunt Renee's ex -husband, we have an Uncle

01:25:16.470 --> 01:25:21.510
Nick and his daughter knew you guys, Chad, from

01:25:21.510 --> 01:25:23.229
I think she went to school with you guys from

01:25:23.229 --> 01:25:25.130
York, Pennsylvania. Do you know what I'm talking

01:25:25.130 --> 01:25:27.550
about, Jared? Uncle Nick, Aunt Renee's ex -husband?

01:25:27.670 --> 01:25:29.350
Yeah, I know Uncle Nick. I don't know his daughter,

01:25:29.489 --> 01:25:32.989
though. He has a daughter do I don't know if

01:25:32.989 --> 01:25:34.750
she was fucking with me or something because

01:25:34.750 --> 01:25:37.149
as a kid like I had liked you guys you like you

01:25:37.149 --> 01:25:39.810
were one of my favorite bands and she told me

01:25:39.810 --> 01:25:42.289
that she knew you guys like hung out with you

01:25:42.289 --> 01:25:44.770
and blah blah blah blah blah and to this day,

01:25:44.850 --> 01:25:46.909
I don't know if she was fucking with me and lied

01:25:46.909 --> 01:25:49.550
to me, but I Don't know. I'm gonna have to figure

01:25:49.550 --> 01:25:51.850
that out. I'm gonna I'll be able to find that

01:25:51.850 --> 01:25:57.630
out different high schools together. I love it.

01:25:57.649 --> 01:26:00.090
But she seemed legit, dude. So I'm going to ask

01:26:00.090 --> 01:26:03.369
Aunt Renee what Uncle Nick's daughter's name

01:26:03.369 --> 01:26:06.250
was, because I don't even remember. But I remember

01:26:06.250 --> 01:26:08.569
as a kid, I'm like, no fucking way you know those

01:26:08.569 --> 01:26:14.489
guys. And I gave you the name. It's like somebody

01:26:14.489 --> 01:26:19.949
commented on Michelle D 'Ambrosia. Oh, there

01:26:19.949 --> 01:26:23.390
it is, Michelle D 'Ambrosia. Who said that? That

01:26:23.390 --> 01:26:26.350
is. Oh, mom. That is the name, Michelle D 'Ambrosio.

01:26:26.409 --> 01:26:27.590
Do you know that name, Chad? It's not ringing

01:26:27.590 --> 01:26:30.029
a bell, but it could have been someone, you know,

01:26:30.109 --> 01:26:32.170
maybe Chad or Ed Newer or Patrick. I don't know,

01:26:32.229 --> 01:26:36.270
but that doesn't ring a bell to me. She lied,

01:26:36.270 --> 01:26:38.310
bro. I'm not saying she lied. I've been saying,

01:26:38.310 --> 01:26:40.470
I don't know. I don't recognize the name. I might

01:26:40.470 --> 01:26:46.270
recognize your face. I don't know. She wasn't

01:26:46.270 --> 01:26:49.149
much to look at. I'll just say that. Sorry, Uncle

01:26:49.149 --> 01:26:53.880
Nick. Anywho. Uh, she wasn't related by blood.

01:26:53.880 --> 01:26:56.279
She wasn't, you know, she was marriage. She was

01:26:56.279 --> 01:26:59.960
marriage family, uh, and no longer part of it.

01:26:59.960 --> 01:27:03.680
Anyway, so back to the regular scheduled programming.

01:27:04.020 --> 01:27:05.939
So you guys played last night. I think you have

01:27:05.939 --> 01:27:10.199
a gig. What tomorrow? Oh, no, we have no tomorrow's

01:27:10.199 --> 01:27:12.520
content day. We have to shoot a bunch of content

01:27:12.520 --> 01:27:16.119
with the band. That's a thing now. We have days

01:27:16.119 --> 01:27:19.119
where we have to shoot content for social media.

01:27:19.159 --> 01:27:23.899
Everybody together. Oh, boy. Yeah. Yeah, it's

01:27:23.899 --> 01:27:25.819
coming to that time now. I didn't even think

01:27:25.819 --> 01:27:28.399
about that band. You got to have all the characters

01:27:28.399 --> 01:27:31.000
there. Hey, if you need somebody to fill in,

01:27:31.100 --> 01:27:34.880
I could be a fucking Derek for, you know, a day

01:27:34.880 --> 01:27:37.720
or I could wear a deer drove a different people

01:27:37.720 --> 01:27:41.100
and see if anyone recognizes. We should be funny.

01:27:42.479 --> 01:27:44.520
That was Blues Traveler, right? That was their

01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:47.420
first video. That was the the theme behind it.

01:27:47.420 --> 01:27:49.500
They were doing like a Wizard of Oz thing where

01:27:49.689 --> 01:27:52.369
Blue Traveler was like playing behind the curtain

01:27:52.369 --> 01:27:54.449
and like some sexy band was playing in front

01:27:54.449 --> 01:27:57.649
of the curtain because John Popper is a big old

01:27:57.649 --> 01:28:00.310
dude. What a fucking harmonica player, dude.

01:28:00.369 --> 01:28:03.189
Not not for nothing, not to like switch gears

01:28:03.189 --> 01:28:05.810
here, but I've never heard anybody rock a harmonica

01:28:05.810 --> 01:28:08.970
like John Popper. We tore with them as wild to

01:28:08.970 --> 01:28:14.010
watch in person. Wow. And he's huge, bro. Like,

01:28:14.149 --> 01:28:16.229
where the fuck? I can't believe he has that breath.

01:28:16.329 --> 01:28:18.390
Like I've figured he got a stomach staple to

01:28:18.390 --> 01:28:22.829
eat through it. I know somebody who did that.

01:28:22.890 --> 01:28:25.850
I'm not mentioning names, Chad, but this is crazy.

01:28:25.869 --> 01:28:28.189
So I know a girl who went through that procedure,

01:28:28.189 --> 01:28:33.409
right? Stomach staple and then had to get the

01:28:33.409 --> 01:28:39.109
extra skin cut off of the belly. And she asked

01:28:39.109 --> 01:28:42.569
me after the surgery, she showed me the scar

01:28:42.569 --> 01:28:46.229
and said, like, what does this look like? And

01:28:46.229 --> 01:28:49.609
when I saw it, dude, it looked like Frankenstein.

01:28:49.710 --> 01:28:52.550
Like it was the creepiest scar I've ever seen.

01:28:52.590 --> 01:28:56.930
It was jagged huge all along the belly. And she

01:28:56.930 --> 01:28:58.890
asked me what it looked like. I don't know how

01:28:58.890 --> 01:29:01.029
to say like, that looks horrible. You should

01:29:01.029 --> 01:29:03.909
get your money back. I was like, it looks good.

01:29:03.949 --> 01:29:06.250
I don't know what to tell. You know, but it was

01:29:06.250 --> 01:29:09.170
bad, dude. Like it looked like a science experiment.

01:29:11.329 --> 01:29:16.199
And not. Yeah, not to go a step further, but

01:29:16.199 --> 01:29:20.319
one of my friends went to sleep with her after

01:29:20.319 --> 01:29:23.420
this happened and left the room after he saw

01:29:23.420 --> 01:29:31.239
it. But anyway, yeah, it was that scar. Yeah,

01:29:31.239 --> 01:29:33.960
that's when you don't lick the quarter and stick

01:29:33.960 --> 01:29:37.699
it. You tell her to get away, man. Hey, now.

01:29:38.079 --> 01:29:40.000
But yeah, I don't know why I brought that up,

01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:42.760
but always good times to bring that up. Anyway.

01:29:44.700 --> 01:29:48.399
Hey now, where'd that go? So, yeah, so that's

01:29:48.399 --> 01:29:50.640
the plan. So seven singles, that's a lot. Are

01:29:50.640 --> 01:29:54.420
you going to try to get the... Do you want your

01:29:54.420 --> 01:29:55.920
music to be commercialized? Because I know a

01:29:55.920 --> 01:29:58.319
lot of bands maybe don't want their songs in

01:29:58.319 --> 01:29:59.880
commercials. I know that was a thing back in

01:29:59.880 --> 01:30:01.439
the day. Rock stars were like, I don't want to

01:30:01.439 --> 01:30:04.960
sell my songs to commercials. Are you guys against

01:30:04.960 --> 01:30:08.640
that? No. Not against it. I mean, we write...

01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:11.520
No, don't be against it. Yeah, we write pop music.

01:30:11.739 --> 01:30:14.760
I mean, it's... you know, we're not breaking

01:30:14.760 --> 01:30:18.720
any boundaries here, really. I mean, yeah, we'll

01:30:18.720 --> 01:30:21.220
do like some cool like, we'll add our own spin

01:30:21.220 --> 01:30:23.779
to it and like some sort of modulation or something.

01:30:23.779 --> 01:30:26.619
But it's pretty straightforward. The music nowadays

01:30:26.619 --> 01:30:28.880
like what they're producing. So yeah, we don't

01:30:28.880 --> 01:30:31.340
mind being in commercials and all that stuff.

01:30:31.420 --> 01:30:34.960
That'd be cool. Yeah. Yeah, I think. Yeah. Fuck

01:30:34.960 --> 01:30:39.569
yeah. Don't be too cool for school Chad actually

01:30:39.569 --> 01:30:41.810
what like his so you remember Nirvana back in

01:30:41.810 --> 01:30:43.310
the day? They would be like we don't want to

01:30:43.310 --> 01:30:45.390
be rock stars We don't want to be in interviews,

01:30:45.390 --> 01:30:47.930
but yet they did every interview that came their

01:30:47.930 --> 01:30:51.250
way so live was I think he was bullshitting to

01:30:51.250 --> 01:30:59.529
be honest Live actually took that attitude and

01:30:59.529 --> 01:31:01.829
didn't want to do interviews if I if I remember

01:31:01.829 --> 01:31:03.649
correctly like you guys were really like we just

01:31:03.649 --> 01:31:05.890
want to play music we're not really even into

01:31:06.709 --> 01:31:09.989
Yeah, also our record company president at the

01:31:09.989 --> 01:31:13.770
time, he hated magazines. And so he wouldn't

01:31:13.770 --> 01:31:16.229
let us, we were offered to cover Rolling Stone

01:31:16.229 --> 01:31:19.789
many times in like 94, 95, and we didn't take

01:31:19.789 --> 01:31:22.750
it. He told us not to, we're like, whatever,

01:31:23.170 --> 01:31:27.970
stupid, should have just done it. Yeah. Luckily

01:31:27.970 --> 01:31:31.510
you were Rolling Stones. That's why we took it,

01:31:31.529 --> 01:31:33.270
because he was like, okay, the fans voted for

01:31:33.270 --> 01:31:35.510
this. This is Gary Kerferson. We're like, okay,

01:31:35.550 --> 01:31:38.010
yeah, but we missed a lot of opportunities, whatever.

01:31:38.350 --> 01:31:40.729
Could you have done it? Could you have gone against

01:31:40.729 --> 01:31:43.609
him and done it anyway? We could have, yeah.

01:31:45.590 --> 01:31:49.229
Yeah, but you kind of listened to your manager,

01:31:49.329 --> 01:31:50.890
and what a fucking moment. Well, he was the president

01:31:50.890 --> 01:31:52.949
of the other record label, so he had a little

01:31:52.949 --> 01:31:55.750
sway over, like, oh, if you do that, I'm going

01:31:55.750 --> 01:31:57.470
to cut off tour support, whatever he could have

01:31:57.470 --> 01:32:03.699
said. Yeah. What an idiot. I'll tell you guys,

01:32:03.840 --> 01:32:06.140
do everything. Do gay porn, put your music. I

01:32:06.140 --> 01:32:08.520
don't know about gay porn, but do all press.

01:32:08.779 --> 01:32:13.979
Fuck it. Do it all. Yeah. What do they say? There's

01:32:13.979 --> 01:32:17.180
no press or bad press. There's no bad press.

01:32:17.420 --> 01:32:19.060
Any press is good press. Something like that.

01:32:19.420 --> 01:32:25.039
Yep. Yeah, I agree. Uh, I even say, like, make

01:32:25.039 --> 01:32:27.859
up fake things like, uh, Jesse, Jussie Smollett.

01:32:28.300 --> 01:32:30.560
And, uh, you guys know that? Jussie Smollett?

01:32:32.199 --> 01:32:33.819
Chad, you know that guy? Do I know him? No, but

01:32:33.819 --> 01:32:37.039
I know the story. I went to high school with

01:32:37.039 --> 01:32:39.979
him. Oh, you really did? He was in my... I swear

01:32:39.979 --> 01:32:42.819
to God. And I didn't know... Yeah. Uh, Michael

01:32:42.819 --> 01:32:46.819
DeBarge, Jeremy, he was friends with, uh, Jussie.

01:32:47.180 --> 01:32:50.109
And he was like... interviewed at the time. Like,

01:32:50.170 --> 01:32:55.869
what a fucking weird dude. Yeah, juicy. Oh, is

01:32:55.869 --> 01:32:59.310
that what it is? That's what he called him when

01:32:59.310 --> 01:33:04.069
he fucking told the story. Yeah, exactly. But

01:33:04.069 --> 01:33:08.470
my God. Yeah, that was bad press. And that was

01:33:08.470 --> 01:33:10.329
not good press. I think it was with the jail.

01:33:10.329 --> 01:33:15.779
Yeah. Not good. No. Yeah. No. What lie can we

01:33:15.779 --> 01:33:17.399
come up with, though, to get you guys in the

01:33:17.399 --> 01:33:22.939
limelight, though? Let's think about this. Deirdre

01:33:22.939 --> 01:33:27.079
killed her father. That's a good one. I don't

01:33:27.079 --> 01:33:31.720
see, I don't see the captain. He's a boat driver.

01:33:34.220 --> 01:33:36.739
Let him know. You have to fake your death. When

01:33:36.739 --> 01:33:43.460
is the... He would understand. Hey. Hey, he can

01:33:43.460 --> 01:33:47.739
get me my yacht. I was gonna say he wants. So,

01:33:47.739 --> 01:33:53.300
yeah, he's got to work for the gracious yacht.

01:33:53.859 --> 01:33:55.920
Deirdre will let you work the stripper pole on

01:33:55.920 --> 01:34:00.100
the gracious shot. Yes, we will. So the skin

01:34:00.100 --> 01:34:03.619
and bones came out when a couple days ago last

01:34:03.619 --> 01:34:10.630
week. Yep. Yep. February 7th. Yeah. Rock on.

01:34:10.789 --> 01:34:14.050
Have we have we heard any critiques from it?

01:34:14.050 --> 01:34:16.369
I mean, not have you had any critics, not not

01:34:16.369 --> 01:34:19.430
fans, but any critics who were like, oh, well,

01:34:19.449 --> 01:34:20.869
if I would have wrote this, I would have done

01:34:20.869 --> 01:34:26.710
it this way. Anybody fucking me yet? Yeah, I

01:34:26.710 --> 01:34:30.170
heard any like good. Yeah, no, I haven't heard

01:34:30.170 --> 01:34:34.250
like bad critique. Yeah, I haven't. No, I don't.

01:34:34.329 --> 01:34:36.909
I mean, it's it's what sitting around like 10K

01:34:36.909 --> 01:34:40.510
streams only like, I don't know, like It's it's

01:34:40.510 --> 01:34:42.810
rock. I don't think it's gotten into enough years

01:34:42.810 --> 01:34:45.170
for people to be like, I could have done this

01:34:45.170 --> 01:34:49.810
better or something, you know. Well, I could

01:34:49.810 --> 01:34:53.970
have done it better. Just just say no, it's a

01:34:53.970 --> 01:34:55.970
it's a cool song. I mean, I've gotten to hear

01:34:55.970 --> 01:34:57.970
some of the other songs that are coming out.

01:34:58.350 --> 01:35:01.050
I'm excited. I really am to see what you guys

01:35:01.050 --> 01:35:03.670
are going to do. Lilies of David, a South Jersey

01:35:03.670 --> 01:35:10.000
band that's taken over. Am I lying? Oh, well,

01:35:10.079 --> 01:35:17.159
dear, dear. No, it's not. Oh, yeah. Yes. But

01:35:17.159 --> 01:35:22.739
when is the next show? Oh, I believe. Yeah, I

01:35:22.739 --> 01:35:26.539
just I think in March 16th, I think I don't even

01:35:26.539 --> 01:35:29.119
I stopped once it's booked. I just put it in

01:35:29.119 --> 01:35:33.420
a calendar and I let my my yeah, I let my app

01:35:33.420 --> 01:35:37.000
remind me when it is. But I believe it's a way

01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:40.220
to be. I told you, Chad, he'll be late. He will

01:35:40.220 --> 01:35:45.560
be late to that gig. But that's good. So Skin

01:35:45.560 --> 01:35:48.260
and Bones came out February 7th. Do we have any

01:35:48.260 --> 01:35:50.819
do you guys have a release schedule or you guys

01:35:50.819 --> 01:35:52.899
kind of just playing it by year and all that

01:35:52.899 --> 01:35:56.619
schedule? We're looking to release our next single

01:35:56.619 --> 01:36:03.640
Diamonds and Ruins by March 21st. I was just

01:36:03.640 --> 01:36:07.189
about to tell Bobby to pull up fucking. skin

01:36:07.189 --> 01:36:10.289
and bones. And where is he? He's not in our green

01:36:10.289 --> 01:36:15.850
room. Let me see if I can find it. But yeah,

01:36:15.949 --> 01:36:17.369
we're going to we're going to play you guys out

01:36:17.369 --> 01:36:18.710
with some skin and bones, but I'm going to look

01:36:18.710 --> 01:36:22.329
for it over here. Who what is skin and bones

01:36:22.329 --> 01:36:25.329
about? Do we go into meanings of songs? Bobby,

01:36:25.409 --> 01:36:28.229
where are you? Not a camera. Pull up skin and

01:36:28.229 --> 01:36:30.430
bones, dude. I don't see your camera. I could

01:36:30.430 --> 01:36:33.069
put it in the chat to on the YouTube if you want.

01:36:34.870 --> 01:36:37.109
Or, yeah, I think you guys, do you guys have

01:36:37.109 --> 01:36:39.310
share screen capability? If you have it up, share

01:36:39.310 --> 01:36:42.109
screen and let's let the audience hear a little.

01:36:42.329 --> 01:36:44.729
I think we played it once on here, Chad, didn't

01:36:44.729 --> 01:36:47.850
we? Yeah, we played something. I don't know if

01:36:47.850 --> 01:36:49.590
it's that song because I didn't know what the

01:36:49.590 --> 01:36:53.869
title was. So it could be. All right. So I got

01:36:53.869 --> 01:37:00.109
here. But yeah, it's it's fun. All right. Hold

01:37:00.109 --> 01:37:05.029
on a second here. I am working the board, folks.

01:37:05.810 --> 01:37:10.289
Let's see if I know how to do it. Share screen,

01:37:10.670 --> 01:37:15.850
share this. Boom shakalaka. Lilies of David,

01:37:15.850 --> 01:37:18.369
get ready. This is cool. This is the video. Watch

01:37:18.369 --> 01:37:33.060
a little bit. You got sound. So muscle just to

01:37:33.060 --> 01:39:11.380
be with somebody Yeah! That's the do you want

01:39:11.380 --> 01:39:14.960
to take them out and get rid of them and show

01:39:14.960 --> 01:39:19.800
them a really terrific job? Come on Skin and

01:39:19.800 --> 01:39:22.600
bones by lilies of David right there folks. So

01:39:22.600 --> 01:39:24.960
how did you guys come up with that? That video

01:39:24.960 --> 01:39:27.819
concept that's pretty cool. Um, it's Jeremy's

01:39:27.819 --> 01:39:30.399
idea. Yeah, I wanted to like do something like

01:39:30.399 --> 01:39:33.340
kind of Because it's the first single we're releasing

01:39:33.340 --> 01:39:36.880
so I wanted to be like Like bringing you into

01:39:36.880 --> 01:39:38.560
our world kind of thing. That's why I'm showing

01:39:38.560 --> 01:39:40.689
like snippets of like who we are, what we're

01:39:40.689 --> 01:39:43.289
doing, working in the studio, backseat, you know,

01:39:43.369 --> 01:39:45.710
B -roll type stuff. But I also wanted like I

01:39:45.710 --> 01:39:49.590
had this idea of like of like that that like

01:39:49.590 --> 01:39:52.289
90s composition pad that kind of like not that

01:39:52.289 --> 01:39:54.270
this song sounds like the 90s because it obviously

01:39:54.270 --> 01:39:59.270
sounds like modern pop kind of music. But it

01:39:59.270 --> 01:40:02.069
kind of the guitar tone was a bit 90s. And so

01:40:02.069 --> 01:40:03.430
I was like, all right, like maybe we could take

01:40:03.430 --> 01:40:05.649
the composition book and then like do like a

01:40:05.649 --> 01:40:07.989
stop motion thing and keep it all under a certain

01:40:07.989 --> 01:40:10.430
budget as well, because obviously that's concern.

01:40:10.430 --> 01:40:13.270
So like we did, we had Deirdre, who also is an

01:40:13.270 --> 01:40:17.670
artist, draw all the, um, the, the, the lyrics

01:40:17.670 --> 01:40:19.930
for the, the video, cause we wanted to emphasize

01:40:19.930 --> 01:40:23.689
the lyrics as well. So, um, she wrote down each

01:40:23.689 --> 01:40:25.630
thing. We stopped the picture of each letter

01:40:25.630 --> 01:40:27.949
and then we put it into like a stop motion thing.

01:40:28.750 --> 01:40:31.890
So, yeah. Pretty cool. It's cool. It came out

01:40:31.890 --> 01:40:35.189
really great. Thank you. Where, where, where'd

01:40:35.189 --> 01:40:40.270
you guys film those beach scenes? It was actually

01:40:40.270 --> 01:40:44.029
freezing that day. It was, it was, we did that

01:40:44.029 --> 01:40:47.670
in, was it December bank? January, December.

01:40:48.010 --> 01:40:52.250
It was cold. It was really cold. Under 30 degrees.

01:40:52.430 --> 01:40:53.810
No, it couldn't have been under 30 degrees. I

01:40:53.810 --> 01:40:56.289
was like, it was cold. Yeah. People like, what

01:40:56.289 --> 01:41:00.750
are you guys doing? Yeah. Wow. So I'm guessing

01:41:00.750 --> 01:41:03.890
no permits for that. Then you might owe the township

01:41:03.890 --> 01:41:10.800
some money. Yeah, they didn't catch you But that's

01:41:10.800 --> 01:41:12.260
cool. You're doing some rebel shit. Then did

01:41:12.260 --> 01:41:14.500
anybody know everybody's supportive and they're

01:41:14.500 --> 01:41:15.880
like, we're gonna follow your Ben and listen

01:41:15.880 --> 01:41:22.439
to your music I said great Rock on Yeah, the

01:41:22.439 --> 01:41:24.420
island probably got some cool do they do any

01:41:24.420 --> 01:41:26.800
long beach on do they do any like music festivals

01:41:26.800 --> 01:41:29.399
or anything like that? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah There's

01:41:29.399 --> 01:41:31.500
a bunch of there's a bunch of good stuff happening

01:41:31.500 --> 01:41:33.680
in Jersey. I mean see her now festival happens

01:41:33.680 --> 01:41:38.119
in As Barry Long Beach Island has some like hop.

01:41:38.220 --> 01:41:41.220
Was it hop sauce, dear? Yeah, hop sauce. They're

01:41:41.220 --> 01:41:43.720
grown each year. Bird and Betty's does a bunch

01:41:43.720 --> 01:41:45.619
of great acts. Yeah, there's there's some good

01:41:45.619 --> 01:41:50.119
venues and stuff around. Yeah. Rock on. Well,

01:41:50.140 --> 01:41:53.239
I'm excited for you guys. Is the is the plan

01:41:53.239 --> 01:41:57.680
here to take this? We said to this would the

01:41:57.680 --> 01:42:00.500
would the ultimate goal just to be like. touring

01:42:00.500 --> 01:42:03.319
musicians, making a comfortable living, just

01:42:03.319 --> 01:42:06.060
enough to pay the bills. Is that like, would

01:42:06.060 --> 01:42:09.039
that be enough of the goal? Yeah, definitely

01:42:09.039 --> 01:42:12.760
able to travel and get paid and play music while

01:42:12.760 --> 01:42:17.439
we do it. Yeah, I just want to afford a few dirt

01:42:17.439 --> 01:42:19.979
bikes. That's what I'm in it for. I just want

01:42:19.979 --> 01:42:24.600
to go. I want to end a yacht. All right. She's

01:42:24.600 --> 01:42:28.699
got aspirations. I like it. Yeah. Yeah. Dirtbikes,

01:42:28.840 --> 01:42:30.760
you could probably afford that now. So, yeah,

01:42:30.840 --> 01:42:35.220
go for the yacht. Look for the yacht. And then

01:42:35.220 --> 01:42:38.899
I'll be podcasting from underneath the, you know,

01:42:39.199 --> 01:42:44.460
the water. Yeah, so that's exciting. So what's

01:42:44.460 --> 01:42:47.600
the plan? So college tour, I'm telling you, that's

01:42:47.600 --> 01:42:50.220
a good idea. Good avenue. You guys are starting

01:42:50.220 --> 01:42:52.460
to get into. So Rutgers was the first one we

01:42:52.460 --> 01:42:56.029
played. You guys went to Stockton, right, Deirdre?

01:42:56.029 --> 01:42:57.949
You were there, too? I think so. No, I didn't

01:42:57.949 --> 01:43:02.289
go to Stockton. Oh, never mind. Maybe you got

01:43:02.289 --> 01:43:05.590
some old friends there that want to have you

01:43:05.590 --> 01:43:08.649
guys play some some shows. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I

01:43:08.649 --> 01:43:12.189
think there's I think the college shows are kind

01:43:12.189 --> 01:43:14.470
of like unlimited. I think that's, you know,

01:43:14.529 --> 01:43:16.550
to book and stuff. You just have to know the

01:43:16.550 --> 01:43:18.649
right person. But yeah, I think that would be

01:43:18.649 --> 01:43:22.119
a good thing to always do. Yeah, it's a good

01:43:22.119 --> 01:43:26.159
circuit to do. Yeah, until we can't. Yeah. What

01:43:26.159 --> 01:43:28.920
is if people want to book you, where can they

01:43:28.920 --> 01:43:32.380
where can they go to? Is there like a social

01:43:32.380 --> 01:43:35.699
media site or anything like that? We have a website,

01:43:36.640 --> 01:43:40.460
Lily's of David dot org. And I believe the booking

01:43:40.460 --> 01:43:44.539
information is on there. But also they could

01:43:44.539 --> 01:43:49.199
email us at the person that handles it at Lily's.

01:43:49.449 --> 01:43:53.750
Lilies of David at gmail .com rock on. Yeah.

01:43:53.810 --> 01:43:56.829
Um, so is that, is that the deal? I think what

01:43:56.829 --> 01:43:58.949
would you say, Chad? The most important part

01:43:58.949 --> 01:44:01.649
of, uh, trying to get your band out there is

01:44:01.649 --> 01:44:03.810
the touring part. Like what, what do you, what

01:44:03.810 --> 01:44:05.890
would you say like, as far as getting the music

01:44:05.890 --> 01:44:11.489
out? Oh, it's touring for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

01:44:11.970 --> 01:44:15.130
Anything right? Birthday parties, fucking bowling

01:44:15.130 --> 01:44:18.050
alleys, wherever. Yeah. Many gigs as you can

01:44:18.050 --> 01:44:23.430
get in front of faces. Yep. Yep. Hey, I'll hire

01:44:23.430 --> 01:44:26.430
at the Manahawking bowling lanes. I could see

01:44:26.430 --> 01:44:28.710
you guys rocking that place out there. I like

01:44:28.710 --> 01:44:31.289
that place. I was just there. We shot some content

01:44:31.289 --> 01:44:33.829
there. It's fun. I haven't been there in a while,

01:44:33.829 --> 01:44:37.170
but yeah. Good old bowling lanes, man. I bowled

01:44:37.170 --> 01:44:42.829
the 300 one time. Nintendo Wii, but Nintendo.

01:44:43.329 --> 01:44:45.779
All right. All right, Monson, take it easy. It

01:44:45.779 --> 01:44:50.880
came out. All right, let's bring on Bobby. Well,

01:44:51.100 --> 01:44:58.039
what happened? Oh, my Kim. You're good now. Bobby's

01:44:58.039 --> 01:44:59.579
got another show on in the background. What do

01:44:59.579 --> 01:45:04.420
you listen to? I don't know. Oh, my God. Well,

01:45:04.680 --> 01:45:09.760
anyway, so Lily's of David and Bobby. What's

01:45:09.760 --> 01:45:12.479
up, Bobby? I was I was looking. How are you doing,

01:45:12.720 --> 01:45:15.039
Jeremy? I was I was I was just thinking about

01:45:15.039 --> 01:45:16.819
how you said that you were going to release the

01:45:16.819 --> 01:45:19.539
album on my birthday. And I was like, wow. Yeah.

01:45:19.779 --> 01:45:23.439
February 7th. Yeah. Yeah. We did it. They did

01:45:23.439 --> 01:45:27.239
it. Came and went. That's what the single is

01:45:27.239 --> 01:45:31.199
about. Bobby Skin and Bones. I was also I was.

01:45:31.439 --> 01:45:34.220
What do you mean? Skin and bones. More than you

01:45:34.220 --> 01:45:40.130
do. Yes, you do. All right. I was going to. What

01:45:40.130 --> 01:45:42.270
was I gonna say? I was gonna say you guys sound

01:45:42.270 --> 01:45:44.989
like great. You sound like the best music I've

01:45:44.989 --> 01:45:48.949
heard since the 90s, probably. Damn. 90s was

01:45:48.949 --> 01:45:53.890
one of the last great eras of music, I think.

01:45:54.069 --> 01:45:56.550
After that, music has gone to shit. There's no

01:45:56.550 --> 01:45:59.770
creativity. Nothing is terrible. You guys sound

01:45:59.770 --> 01:46:02.500
great, though. You really do. Bobby before the

01:46:02.500 --> 01:46:04.640
show said that you guys were better than a band

01:46:04.640 --> 01:46:07.079
called live. I don't know who he's talking about

01:46:07.079 --> 01:46:14.840
but I Was looking at the comments and somebody's

01:46:14.840 --> 01:46:17.100
like putting up like their what's up account

01:46:17.100 --> 01:46:19.640
I'm trying to figure out who this is. Oh boy

01:46:19.640 --> 01:46:22.859
posting in our comments there. What's that? Oh,

01:46:22.859 --> 01:46:26.279
I see that. Let's show it on the screen anyway

01:46:29.100 --> 01:46:32.199
Listen, I got something I want to show you. This

01:46:32.199 --> 01:46:34.699
is a girl that I know. Her name's Stephanie Locke.

01:46:35.260 --> 01:46:38.859
This is one of her photos. Be scared. Be scared,

01:46:38.939 --> 01:46:42.220
people. Be scared. America's favorite photos.

01:46:42.220 --> 01:46:45.439
If you want to vote for it, you know, vote for

01:46:45.439 --> 01:46:48.159
her. Give her a number one. Make her number one.

01:46:48.439 --> 01:46:52.939
Let's see. This is one of her photos. Oh, so

01:46:52.939 --> 01:47:00.489
adorable. What's her name? I don't know the cast

01:47:00.489 --> 01:47:02.369
name. I don't know the cast name. I don't know

01:47:02.369 --> 01:47:04.810
her cast name. She was just telling me about

01:47:04.810 --> 01:47:10.109
the photo page. Hey, Bobby, you have any any

01:47:10.109 --> 01:47:13.489
stories for them? Success stories like what should

01:47:13.489 --> 01:47:17.409
they do to make? I think I think they're doing

01:47:17.409 --> 01:47:19.149
everything that they should be doing. I think

01:47:19.149 --> 01:47:22.289
they're doing great. I really do. I mean, you're

01:47:22.289 --> 01:47:24.810
doing everything they could be doing. You heard

01:47:24.810 --> 01:47:27.350
it here, folks. I don't see what else they could

01:47:27.350 --> 01:47:30.779
be doing. They're doing perfect. Bobby says they're

01:47:30.779 --> 01:47:33.619
doing perfect. And I believe them. You guys believe

01:47:33.619 --> 01:47:35.960
them. That's the most important part. The thing

01:47:35.960 --> 01:47:38.340
about the management, the thing about getting

01:47:38.340 --> 01:47:40.619
the management early is probably the best thing

01:47:40.619 --> 01:47:43.539
that you need to do is you need to focus on as

01:47:43.539 --> 01:47:46.180
a management. But otherwise, everything else

01:47:46.180 --> 01:47:49.399
is top notch, bro. Everything. What do you say,

01:47:49.560 --> 01:47:51.380
Bobby? I love the music. I really love the music.

01:47:51.920 --> 01:47:54.880
Have me be their manager. I take 90. They take

01:47:54.880 --> 01:48:26.010
10. the fifth I know this wannabe comedian. He's

01:48:26.010 --> 01:48:30.109
pretty good though. He's good. He's pretty good.

01:48:31.329 --> 01:48:34.970
He had a good idea the other day. I posted a

01:48:34.970 --> 01:48:38.989
video about it. Was it the earth was flat? Did

01:48:38.989 --> 01:48:43.770
he think that? No, it was your idea about that

01:48:43.770 --> 01:48:47.229
we might be in a simulation and it started when

01:48:47.229 --> 01:48:49.109
the pyramids were created. I just want to bring

01:48:49.109 --> 01:48:51.500
this picture up again. Bobby, don't let them

01:48:51.500 --> 01:48:53.899
into our world here, dude. They can't know this

01:48:53.899 --> 01:48:56.920
stuff. This is the inside track. This is a circle

01:48:56.920 --> 01:49:00.640
of life. This is a circle of life. This is our

01:49:00.640 --> 01:49:03.760
circle of life. Yes. It kind of makes sense,

01:49:04.699 --> 01:49:07.420
really. Wait, Bobby, the I do think that we were

01:49:07.420 --> 01:49:11.000
bringing up the circle of trust and where you're

01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:13.500
on the outside of it. Bring up that picture.

01:49:14.819 --> 01:49:20.000
The circle of trust picture. All right, fucker.

01:49:20.090 --> 01:49:22.829
And the circle jerk picture that that we want

01:49:22.829 --> 01:49:26.989
there. Anyway, Bobby, let them know the latest

01:49:26.989 --> 01:49:30.810
conspiracy and what to stay away from, according

01:49:30.810 --> 01:49:35.510
to you. What to stay away from fucking everything

01:49:35.510 --> 01:49:38.750
that everything the mainstream media pushes,

01:49:39.130 --> 01:49:43.409
anything that's that's normalized pretty much.

01:49:44.219 --> 01:49:47.220
You have to be your own person. You cannot follow

01:49:47.220 --> 01:49:49.359
any crowd if you follow any crowd You're gonna

01:49:49.359 --> 01:49:52.039
follow them to your death. You are that's the

01:49:52.039 --> 01:49:56.479
truth. Should we? Who started you on President

01:49:56.479 --> 01:50:00.180
Zelensky's or President Putin's Bobby? Putin

01:50:00.180 --> 01:50:03.420
Putin yes, you heard it. I've always I've always

01:50:03.420 --> 01:50:05.420
said that I liked pool and I've always liked

01:50:05.420 --> 01:50:08.340
pool and I said that we should be Allies with

01:50:08.340 --> 01:50:11.880
Russia from the day one Bobby said that for years

01:50:12.119 --> 01:50:15.500
Bobby said earlier that we should start World

01:50:15.500 --> 01:50:18.760
War Three, us, Russia and China versus the world.

01:50:18.819 --> 01:50:24.340
Right, Bobby? Well, you know, I don't know. I

01:50:24.340 --> 01:50:26.739
don't know if we should start World War Three.

01:50:26.899 --> 01:50:29.359
I mean, they're pushing for it, but I really

01:50:29.359 --> 01:50:31.000
don't think we should start. Do you think we

01:50:31.000 --> 01:50:34.060
should skip World War Three and go to World War

01:50:34.060 --> 01:50:37.000
Four? I mean, you know, there are plans for a

01:50:37.000 --> 01:50:39.380
World War Three. There are plans and they've

01:50:39.380 --> 01:50:41.659
been written down. If you look up Albert Pike,

01:50:41.779 --> 01:50:44.500
he wrote all world war or world war one, world

01:50:44.500 --> 01:50:47.920
war two and world war three. Exactly how they

01:50:47.920 --> 01:50:50.539
were going to happen. Just look up Albert Pike.

01:50:50.920 --> 01:50:53.579
I heard that we don't know how world war three

01:50:53.579 --> 01:50:57.020
will be fought, but we know world war four would

01:50:57.020 --> 01:50:59.460
be fought with sticks and bones. Sticks and stones.

01:50:59.699 --> 01:51:03.460
There it is. Sticks and stones. Albert Einstein

01:51:03.460 --> 01:51:08.180
said that. A equals MC squared. He helped make

01:51:08.180 --> 01:51:09.979
the bomb, Bobby. What are we going to do about

01:51:09.979 --> 01:51:13.699
that? It's out of the bag, Bobby Oppenheimer.

01:51:13.800 --> 01:51:19.199
What are we going to do? Go up in higher quoted

01:51:19.199 --> 01:51:21.840
the bag of the Gita. So he believes that I think

01:51:21.840 --> 01:51:24.520
he believed that we were we were we were already

01:51:24.520 --> 01:51:27.479
at an advanced civilization at one point and

01:51:27.479 --> 01:51:30.060
we got wiped out by our own technology. I think

01:51:30.060 --> 01:51:32.720
we were, too. I think that we've been through

01:51:32.720 --> 01:51:36.010
many research. Bobby, is it true that you are

01:51:36.010 --> 01:51:41.970
an alien? Go. No. Is it true that I am an alien?

01:51:43.090 --> 01:51:46.750
I don't know. Is it? I don't think so. Is it

01:51:46.750 --> 01:51:51.670
true that the earth is round? This is a question

01:51:51.670 --> 01:51:54.850
that I'm still debating. Lily's debating it.

01:51:55.069 --> 01:51:57.050
What do you think? I'm glad to hear you're debating

01:51:57.050 --> 01:51:59.770
it, at least. That's good. Yes. He's coming around,

01:51:59.970 --> 01:52:03.119
Chad. Lily's I've always been I've always been

01:52:03.119 --> 01:52:06.479
half, you know half a half But more side is leaning

01:52:06.479 --> 01:52:09.119
towards it not being what NASA is definitely

01:52:09.119 --> 01:52:12.979
saying. It's not what NASA's telling people What

01:52:12.979 --> 01:52:15.720
do you get 40 billion dollars a year to do nothing?

01:52:16.840 --> 01:52:18.760
That's like one of the biggest money laundering

01:52:18.760 --> 01:52:21.159
operations that the United States has running

01:52:21.159 --> 01:52:23.520
I do think Doge should look into it for sure.

01:52:23.739 --> 01:52:29.430
Absolutely. Not kidding. I agree but Can Elon

01:52:29.430 --> 01:52:34.170
go to Mars if we're in a firmament? I don't think

01:52:34.170 --> 01:52:36.590
anything can pierce the firmament. I don't think

01:52:36.590 --> 01:52:39.069
we can pierce the firmament. Bobby showed the

01:52:39.069 --> 01:52:42.010
video here last week, folks. I don't know if

01:52:42.010 --> 01:52:44.229
you saw it was totally real where that rocket

01:52:44.229 --> 01:52:46.350
was going up into space and it got stuck into

01:52:46.350 --> 01:52:49.050
the gel and couldn't move. I don't know if you

01:52:49.050 --> 01:52:53.029
saw it. It seems like it's more a thicker kind

01:52:53.029 --> 01:52:57.319
of layer like that's above us. Maybe it's not

01:52:57.319 --> 01:53:01.119
so thick that we're meteors and comets can pass

01:53:01.119 --> 01:53:03.880
through it. But it's like some kind of layer

01:53:03.880 --> 01:53:06.140
that we can't get past it. I don't think we could

01:53:06.140 --> 01:53:08.819
pass it. We can't get past the Van Allen belts.

01:53:09.020 --> 01:53:12.119
We can't get past that. What about that space

01:53:12.119 --> 01:53:14.159
station up there? What's that doing up there?

01:53:14.460 --> 01:53:17.560
Is that astronauts, the astronauts that are stuck

01:53:17.560 --> 01:53:20.640
there? Are they not there? I don't think so.

01:53:20.640 --> 01:53:23.439
I don't think so either, actually. I think it's

01:53:23.439 --> 01:53:28.170
all a PR plan. But how crazy was that? I don't

01:53:28.170 --> 01:53:31.609
know if you folks watched, but there are people

01:53:31.609 --> 01:53:35.449
stuck in space. And the reason why they're not

01:53:35.449 --> 01:53:38.510
back on Earth is because of the Biden administration

01:53:38.510 --> 01:53:42.090
pulling fucking politics. Did anybody catch that

01:53:42.090 --> 01:53:46.069
from? Yeah, that's crazy. They didn't want him

01:53:46.069 --> 01:53:48.350
to go get him before the before the election.

01:53:48.430 --> 01:53:52.390
Yeah. What the fuck, man. And Bobby, do you believe

01:53:52.390 --> 01:53:55.960
that? Can you believe that? I can believe Biden

01:53:55.960 --> 01:53:59.760
did the worst job I've ever seen in my life.

01:54:00.140 --> 01:54:03.939
I can't even call him president. No, but what

01:54:03.939 --> 01:54:08.380
about the astronauts stuck out in space now that

01:54:08.380 --> 01:54:11.340
can't get home? Are they lying to us about them

01:54:11.340 --> 01:54:14.600
and they're not? Probably. Probably. I would

01:54:14.600 --> 01:54:18.619
say so. Most, most, most, most, most things are

01:54:18.619 --> 01:54:21.779
to create control. People's emotions. Nine 11

01:54:21.779 --> 01:54:26.020
was to create a huge negative emotional rift.

01:54:26.020 --> 01:54:29.500
I believe you on that tower seven road tower

01:54:29.500 --> 01:54:32.800
seven didn't fall on its own. You know that.

01:54:32.800 --> 01:54:35.779
Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's like people don't

01:54:35.779 --> 01:54:37.520
look into things hard enough. I mean, you could

01:54:37.520 --> 01:54:40.859
look at the airplane, all the airplane stocks

01:54:40.859 --> 01:54:43.729
that they were short selling, you don't short

01:54:43.729 --> 01:54:46.329
sell airplane stocks, airlines are doing they

01:54:46.329 --> 01:54:49.930
were doing the best at that time. You don't short

01:54:49.930 --> 01:54:51.909
sell unless you know something negative is going

01:54:51.909 --> 01:54:55.729
to happen. You don't hear buildings two months

01:54:55.729 --> 01:54:59.729
before they're destroyed for two separate terrorist

01:54:59.729 --> 01:55:04.329
attacks. It's just crazy. Hey, I love to do all

01:55:04.329 --> 01:55:07.350
this. I gotta go make dinner for kids. So yes,

01:55:07.890 --> 01:55:10.229
I gotta go. Thank you, folks. Lilies of David,

01:55:10.229 --> 01:55:12.170
you were awesome. Thank you for coming on the

01:55:12.170 --> 01:55:15.109
podcast. Bobby, thank you for bringing this to

01:55:15.109 --> 01:55:20.350
a final close. And now we know for once and for

01:55:20.350 --> 01:55:25.470
all, the world is a vampire. The world is a vampire.

01:55:25.670 --> 01:55:28.670
That's for real. The earth is flat. Bobby, say

01:55:28.670 --> 01:55:30.350
goodbye to the audience. Let them know that the

01:55:30.350 --> 01:55:33.810
earth is round. Go ahead, Bobby. Goodbye, audience.

01:55:34.170 --> 01:55:36.920
I'm still I'm still out on that. All right. The

01:55:36.920 --> 01:55:39.699
one and only Bobby, folks. God bless you guys.

01:55:39.920 --> 01:55:43.079
Keep going. And Lilies of David, let the audience

01:55:43.079 --> 01:55:45.100
know where they could catch you on social media,

01:55:45.119 --> 01:55:47.479
where they could listen to your single and all

01:55:47.479 --> 01:55:52.560
that jazz. Yeah. At Lilies of David at all social

01:55:52.560 --> 01:55:56.899
handles, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube. And just

01:55:56.899 --> 01:55:59.840
look us up. Lilies of David on Spotify, Apple

01:55:59.840 --> 01:56:01.979
Music. You'll see our song Skin and Skin and

01:56:01.979 --> 01:56:04.720
Bones. And yeah, I look forward to releasing

01:56:04.720 --> 01:56:08.789
some more music. and go check them out in concert.

01:56:09.170 --> 01:56:10.909
They put on a great show. We want to thank you

01:56:10.909 --> 01:56:13.029
guys for coming on here next time you guys come

01:56:13.029 --> 01:56:15.289
on. Thank you very much. Thank you. What do you

01:56:15.289 --> 01:56:16.850
think, Chad? We'll have them do a little acoustic

01:56:16.850 --> 01:56:20.250
performance next time? Absolutely. Why not? Maybe

01:56:20.250 --> 01:56:23.729
break out some bongos. I'll play the piano with

01:56:23.729 --> 01:56:26.550
my penis like Zelensky did back in the day. Cowbell.

01:56:26.949 --> 01:56:30.649
That's right. Gracious audience. We love you.

01:56:30.890 --> 01:56:33.560
We thank you for coming on this journey. We will

01:56:33.560 --> 01:56:36.260
catch you folks on the flip side. We'll see you

01:56:36.260 --> 01:56:37.760
Tuesday at 1 p .m.