The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 083 - Sean "Memphis" Hennesy

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And we are live. Mr. Gracey. What's going on?

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We are up, you know, special Friday show. Yeah,

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baby. I got a lot of Saturday, almost a Saturday.

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I know when we're doing shows like this, you

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can't keep up with the week, man. I know. Yeah,

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Tuesday. Yeah, Tuesday, like marks the day. You're

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like, it's Tuesday, but exactly. Damn it. Yeah.

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We're getting, we're getting more high profile

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guests and fucking, you know, doing surprise

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shows. Why not? Excited for this one, man. We

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got a former bandmate of yours coming on today,

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dude. The one and only Sean Hennesy. Not Memphis,

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Tennessee. That's right. That's right. Not to

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be confused with the Hennessy cognac. No, even

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though his family owns that and he's massively

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rich because of it. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah,

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who doesn't wish wouldn't it be cool dude to

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be born into like the Hilton's like not even

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like, let's forget Paris Hilton's money like

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that. She just got from being born into that

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family. But the fact that she can go anywhere

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in the world and stay at a Hilton for free is

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dope. Fuck yeah, like that alone. I don't know.

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I think right about now the now now the nowadays

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right now I'd like to be fucking barren Trump

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that motherfucker is badass And he's like in

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all his fuck Dapper as hell, you know, he's pulling

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the ladies And then it has he has the fucking

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wherewithal to say hello to Biden and tell him

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we're coming for you Dude, I love it like that's

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slick man And he's slick in the way he operates.

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Like, you're not really hearing much about Barron

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Trump and the press doing things, stuff with,

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you know, dating. I've never seen him talk. I've

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never even heard him speak. Right. Yeah. And

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what are, what are like reserved way to be in

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that position? Because how old is he? Like, 18,

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19, 20, maybe? Yeah, he might be 20 now, I think,

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maybe. 19. If you had me in there and my father

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was president and I was 19 or 20, my God, dude,

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Hunter Biden would have nothing on me. I'm looking

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up his age. Yeah. Good. 18. Rob Bobby Yankee

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said, thank you, Bobby coming. There he goes.

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The myth. The only fucking 18. Holy shit. That's

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a great video. And like, I watched. I mean, you

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watched the inauguration. You saw him go over

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there and shake Biden's hand, but. He had no

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clue. And it had the lip reader fucking saying,

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because his face like dramatically changes. And

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then his lip reader, yeah. Yeah. Cause he looks

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at him and he's like, he shakes his hand and

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he's like, what did he say? The gloves are off

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or we're coming for you? Something like that.

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I forget what it was now. And then he walks back

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over to Melania and she's like, be nice. Yeah.

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And he's like, I will. Yeah. He looks back over.

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God bless him. I mean, imagine though, Joe Rogos

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probably was like, imagine though, if someone

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went after your fucking father like that. You'd

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be like, fuck you motherfucker. Yeah. What's

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up Matthew Frazier? Oh, what's up drumming up

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conversation? My mom's going up on drumming up

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conversation soon. Yes. Lana Lana. We love you

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Lana. Yeah, I talked to him before. I'm like,

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if you need help setting anything up, but I think

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they said they're doing it when you're there

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or something. No, they were going to, but I couldn't

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do it because tomorrow I'm shooting videos and.

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And I'm doing some of Bill's podcast is too well

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tomorrow. So got you. Yeah. Well, if they need

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anything, they know how to reach out. I got a

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special guest coming in to play on one of my

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videos. Yeah. Yeah. See what happens. And she's

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a looker, too. That'll be fun, man. People are

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going to be like, what? Exciting. So did you

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hear Adam? I was listening to Adam divine. I

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think I'm the Ovan and One of his houses or like

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he's got a house in LA and it got broken into

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and it's like they're like professionals like

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everybody in his neighborhood is like getting

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broken into and it's like a ring And he's like

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illegals Who knows I don't think they were caught

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it's like I think there was a ring of illegals

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going around doing it too and they were shipping

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this shit like back to Mexico like So yeah, go

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on. Yeah. Sounds about right. But, uh, you know,

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it's kind of like these people have their houses

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with their security system, but he's like, they

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knew how to like, you know, shut it off. They

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cut off the internet, cut off the, uh, power

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and whatever we're in and out in eight minutes,

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which is quick as fuck, I guess. Like you would,

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I don't know if they got to lay out of the home

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or what, but he said that happens in a lawless

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city like fucking LA where they don't prosecute

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those motherfuckers and just let them walk. Yeah,

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soft on crime Democrats dude, there was a federal

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an FBI agent who was saying like just how fucked

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up Like certain jurisdictions are in California

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being one of them like they would be going after

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somebody and if they didn't have like five kilos

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like they didn't even want to they didn't want

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to prosecute nothing so they were like Yeah,

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they were like fuck it if it wasn't like 1600

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pounds of marijuana, California was like not

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fuck it. We're not going after him. So like They

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were turning away and not, you know, prosecuting

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fucking. You have that much coke. You definitely

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have guns and you're not doing this shit non

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violently. You know what I'm saying? So they

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have the, the no bail laws in California. Ridiculous.

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It's like people just walk for like felony offenses,

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assault, all kinds of stuff. Same with New York.

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But why did the politicians feel safe with their

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cities and states like having these people? All

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have armed guards. Are you kidding me? Yeah That's

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that's the way the elite Democrats work. They're

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all protected with guns what they won't don't

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want you to have guns They're all protected in

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their walled Compounds, but they want to let

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you stand for yourself with no guns with the

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criminals they let on the street. It's retarded

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I don't understand how anyone frigging votes

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for it. Cause it's like, it's all, again, I'll

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use the term again, suicidal empathy. It's the

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same shit always. And it was, it's almost like

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what they were doing, um, with the COVID -19,

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like telling us like we can't dine indoors. We

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can't dine here. And then they're out there dining

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indoors doing all their shit. Oh, that was, yeah,

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that was classic, uh, nuisance. I mean, everyone's

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locked down. His winery is open. All the wineries

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in Napa are closed. His winery was right across

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the board in Sonoma. So that's open. His kid

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went to school because they went to private school.

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All the other kids are home. Yeah, I actually

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benefited from that because my kids were in a

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Montessori school at the time. So my kids are

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out for like two weeks and back. Thank God. Boom.

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But but the point is, it's like what's good for

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these, you know, what's good for me is not good

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for these. And so, yeah, all the restaurants

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are closed. Everyone has to wear a mask. He's

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inside the French laundry in a big table. No

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mass. They're all fucking party and having a

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great time. There's video of it. Yeah, people

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still vote for him. And then it's like, what

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does it take? Like, what does it take to figure

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out that they lie to you and just treat you like

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peons and they do whatever they want? And it's

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real. And it's in real time. It's not like you're

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finding all this shit out about it like years

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later, like. Oh, they told us to stay inside.

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And then we find out years later, like they were

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dining inside. Like, no, this was like the day

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of or that night they were got caught like dining

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inside. Well, the other thing is the mainstream

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media doesn't cover it. Like they don't. Yeah.

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If the media was honest, they would cover that

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and go, look, he's a hypocrite, but they don't.

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Right. And shame on them because they're being

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fucked too. Like they can't dine inside or maybe

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they can. I don't know. Maybe there's a secret

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spot they go to. Yeah, I'm sure. It's just none

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of it makes sense to me. It's like, you know

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This is I mean we talk about all this stuff all

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the time like all this crazy hypocrisy and all

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these things that they do on that side And then

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I have people writing me going you've lost your

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mind and I'm like I've lost my mind right I've

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lost my mind. You've been lied to for the past

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what 12 years by the media. Yeah on a consistent

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basis Things that are now demonstrably false

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that we all knew was true then, but it was suppressed

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and you couldn't find out about it. And now you

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find out about it. And you're just like, Oh,

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no, that's fine. And I've lost my mind because

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I'm awake and I know what the fuck is going on.

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And when you ask the one right. And when you

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ask them, you know, why, why did I lose my mind?

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They tell you, you rebut that and you like put

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them in their place, let them know. Then they

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hop onto something else, a complete 180 to a

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different topic that you got to defend on. And

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then when you do that, they're onto something

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else. It's like, they just don't get it. They

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don't want to hear a different point of view

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or see anything. They just want to say, this

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is why you're wrong. This is why you're wrong.

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They'll cherry pick this one little thing. That's

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what they'll have is their one little fact, like,

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Like that show I went on and he was like, what

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about Jared Kushner and his $2 billion deal with

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the Saudis? And Ivanka Trump got a $700 million

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deal from the Chinese. I'm like, were they legitimate

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business deals? Right. Do the Kushners and the

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Trumps have businesses and sell products and

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make things? Yes. Yes. Does Biden? No. Does Hunter

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Biden make anything? No. He sells access to his

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father. That's it. Okay, so to tell me that all

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Jared Kushner got two billion from the Saudis.

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Okay, maybe he used his his connection to Trump

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to do that That happens all the time. Oh, that's

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all networking But it's legitimate business deal.

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Yeah, it wasn't just given two billion dollars

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No, and that's how they like to do it. They like

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to say those little stupid things like global

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should he have gotten two billion dollars from

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the Saudis Well, let me look into that deal and

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then, uh, get back to you because I'm not just

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going to know all that off my brain, but I certainly

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know that using your father, uh, is like power

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to play and like getting bribes under the table,

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uh, you know, going against the American people

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is wrong. And that wasn't having 40 shell companies

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and the 10 % for the big guy. And like, you know,

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I mean, come on. Yeah. I was like, and it was

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like this, you know, I follow this one guy on

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Facebook that I used to work with way back in

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the day and he's a, you know, liberal and he's

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always putting up anti -Trump stuff. And when

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the whole, uh, when Doge first started to go

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in on, uh, Social Security and find all the 120

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year olds and there's 3 million people over 120

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year olds and the leftist talking point came

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out real quick. Oh, they use cobalt. Uh programming

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language and all those young kids don't know

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what that is so they don't know what they're

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talking about I'm like Jesus fuck. Are you serious?

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You think all those geniuses Don't know what

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cobalt is the fucking programming language. Yeah,

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I'm sure they're completely Have no fucking knowledge

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of it and they're just completely off base. They

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don't know what they're talking about. Okay Yeah,

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they basically said that if something if one

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value wasn't inputted it could like resort back

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to 18 whatever and that's what was going on there

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And, uh, they're finding people like 300 years

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old and one person was like 360 years old insane.

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They don't know if they were getting money or

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not, but they're on the, they're on the social

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security roles. It's like, how is that possible?

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It was, it's older than social security and the

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country. Exactly. But it was a cobalt programming

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language. Okay. Yeah, I got it. Got it. Got it.

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Get a good, but you know, good for them to come

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out with something like that right away. But

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it's like, if it's so easily disproven, what

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did you do? But maybe what they did do is get

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the people who aren't going to look into it.

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And it's cold ball. And that's it. Oh, of course.

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Well, that's what the left does now. Now their

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whole thing is this old signal thing with, uh,

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with Hegseth and the crew. It's like they're

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going to fuck off about that. Oh, yeah. Of course,

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the first thing was. He gave away war plans and

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blah blah blah and chop -seeking information

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now of course after the dust settles and the

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leftist media has all their fucking heyday about

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it comes out Oh, no, that's completely wrong.

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There was no war plans given out now the guy

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the the leftist Reporter that happened to be

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put onto the chat has that even admitted that

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no there were no war plans given out and I think

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was Mike walls is assistant is the guy who put

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him on and And of course, now you're finding

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out that he and his wife are connected to the

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Obamas and all this fucking leftist shit. I think

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I think you know what I think happened. Talk

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to me. I think they were looking for a mole and

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they found them. Oh, because I was just going

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to ask you, why were they using signal if they're

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not supposed to? You think this was a way for

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them to that's a good fucking. That's what it

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feels like now. Now that you know the assistant

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guy was connected to the lefties and and his

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wife was like. Had something to do with the obamas

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and it's like, okay, they found the mole Dude,

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they're they're going above 4d chess now man

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if they're you know Because I because I was thinking

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when it came out I'm like, why did you have to

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use signal if this is not fucking approved? And

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this is a way for them to come after you and

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say oh look what they did. I mean I'm not too

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It's still it's still you know an encrypted platform

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and it's way better than Hillary Clinton's private

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email server that everybody forgot about and

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nobody cared about so I don't know why this is

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such a fucking big to do, but apparently the

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CIA is about ready to release all the Benghazi

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files. Ooh, that should be fun for Hillary. Oh

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my God. Does she have immunity? I think did,

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uh, I don't know. Can you imagine Biden left

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her out the pasture and he didn't give her immunity.

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And I don't think he did. I don't know. I don't

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think he gave her a preemptive pardon signed

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by auto pen. That's amazing, dude. I want a preemptive

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pardon. Yeah, from now. It's actually from now

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until I die. I can do whatever I want. You can't

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prosecute me. Boom. Chaka. Laka. All right. Well,

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let's bring on our freaking awesome guest, Mr.

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Sean Memphis. Hennessy. Can you guys hear me?

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Yeah. Can you guys hear me? Okay, we're good.

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I can hear you. Gold in the tower. Cheers. Cheers.

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How are you, man? I'm good, brother. How are

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you? It's been a while. Yeah, man. Are you in

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York right now? Are you in the studio? Cool.

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We were just asking that. We were trying to figure

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this out. Have you been to the building? You

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came here with Candlebox, right? No, I didn't.

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No, I wasn't with that project. I came with Neil

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from Muriel Bliss. And we stayed there for one

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night. I think Chad CT was mixing a couple of

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songs. Okay, right. Yeah, I remember that now.

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That makes sense. Yeah. And then, yeah, I remember

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going on the roof talking to Chad and Neil and

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I mean, let's be real, Chad talked for most of

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the time. Yeah. Yeah. Sean, I'm sorry, I got

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it, John. I was like, you don't get many words

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in edgewise for Chad. No, I called Chad yesterday.

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I actually didn't talk to Chad for a while. We

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talked for about an hour and it was a good conversation.

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We had just caught up about everything. Nice.

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That's great. Get to hear about the sagas. Yeah,

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I did. I could hear a lot about that. But that

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also got to tell my own sagas too. So it's just

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kind of catching up and, you know, where we are

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in our lives and all this stuff and that fun

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stuff. So, you know, catch up offline too. I

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want to hear that. Yeah, absolutely. I'm going

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to have to catch up with you offline too then.

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I can't be left out here, Sean. Yeah. Royal Bliss.

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When I was looking them up on Wikipedia. There's

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says there's a Brian Hennessy in the band. Is

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this a relative of yours? Yeah, it's my brother.

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Oh, how cool Younger he looks older because he

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looks like shit That's what that's those are

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his words not my words for now. I have a lot

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to say that He's two years younger than he's

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actually turning 40 in like two three weeks,

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which is crazy Yeah, I left I didn't leave Candleboss.

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Candleboss kind of just disbanded and I was in

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this weird limbo. I was in a really toxic relationship.

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And so randomly, like a couple of weeks after

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that, Royal Bliss called me and they're like,

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Hey, we're on tour with fuel, but we need the

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guitar player. Taylor is just like, he has to

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miss some dates, but we can't like not take this

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tour. Can you fill in? I'm like, yeah, like I

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could totally fill in. So I flew out. I did a

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couple of rehearsals and I did the run. And then

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at the end of that run, they asked me if I wanted

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to join the band because I had nothing going

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on. And it was kind of an excuse at the same

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time to get out of Nashville, out of the relationship,

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just kind of like a fresh start. And then I moved

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out here and then kind of couch surfed, lived

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in a Neil's basement or the singer for a little

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while, found a cool place downtown. And then

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toured for, I don't know, maybe six months. And

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then my brother calls me. Or I called him, I

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can't remember, but we were on the road and I

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was just calling to say hi. Yeah, my, um, my,

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uh, my girl after eight years left me for another

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woman. Wow. And he was like, he was, he was like,

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and he was a bass player upright doing all the

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folk. He was doing, you know, graduated from

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Humboldt. So he's up in Arcada, like the hippie

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scene. He's like, I don't know what to do. And

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I'm like, well, do you want to come out here

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and just sell merch and go on the road? And like,

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we have a bus like just to do something. He's

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like, fuck it. Let's come out. do it. So he came

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out and then he toured for about two years. And

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at that point of two years, I started getting

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tired of the way they were touring instead of

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because like, you know, you tour at a certain

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level for so long and then you kind of go backwards

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and, you know, I already did this when I was

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like 20. I don't want to do it again. I'm still

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friends with the guys. I mean, there's a lot

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of other little things that happen, but we're

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all still friends. I still play with them all

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the time. And so Brian joined. the bass player

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left Brian joined as the bass player I think

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we played like three shows together and then

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I took off plus I was getting married and I was

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like it was a whole thing happening and I was

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just like yeah and then um so they're still together

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they're still doing stuff yeah it's it's kind

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of like um I don't know it's still like that

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you know as you know internal band drama of being

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together for over 25 years and uh it's basically

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uh I know all about that Yeah, I mean, it's a

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good example. It's it's you got Neil and Taylor

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So you got Steven Tyler and Joe Perry running

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at the camp and then the other guys who just

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kind of like just tell me when I got to be there

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I'm charging you more now because I'm not gonna

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help load it anymore that kind of stuff like

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there's always like new dynamics and Strangeness,

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but they're like, you know, I think as what Chad

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Taylor said once is like we're still together

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as for the children which are the fans That resonated

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to me and I was like I get it, but we're starting

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to do tribute stuff. We just did a Tom Petty

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show the other day and it was sold out. It was

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like 1500 people. There's other avenues to still

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play music and be happy together without... No

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one cares about original music anymore, unfortunately,

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unless you're like 20 and you're a celebrity.

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Right, it's funny because there's this guy on

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Facebook that I know named Sean Barry. He's originally

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from here in Pennsylvania, like Lebanon area.

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And he lives in california. He's hit me up several

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times to come see his tribute band. He plays

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in like all these tribute bands So I went the

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other night to uh, where was it fullerton or

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no garden grove There's in this cool little tiny

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like thousand seat amphitheater In the middle

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of downtown, which is wild. Yeah, but it was

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like social distortion uh tribute band talking

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has tribute band Ramon's tribute band And he

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was like, yeah, I do I make a shit ton of money

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just playing these tribute bands all over the

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place I was like, so there's this whole underground,

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I don't know, I guess it's not underground, but

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there's this whole other thing with all these

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tribute bands playing all this, all these bands

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music. That's, and that's what I'm doing right

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now. I got a Fleetwood. It's called Fleetwood

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Visions. And we're, we're, we're crushing it

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financially. I mean, we're, we're making like,

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like big band money. And we're playing these

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theaters and these amphitheaters. And it's all

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that the cotton tops, as I call them, you know,

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the older folks, they, they They have the money,

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but they also want to relive their youth and

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all my groupies now, you know, and we're not

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dressing up like them. We're dressing in the

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vein of, you know, like kind of seventies. We're

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not trying to put on top hat and glasses and

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like this and do any of that crap. Like it's

00:21:01.539 --> 00:21:03.579
more of an experience. Good. And we talk about

00:21:03.579 --> 00:21:05.380
the history of the songs and it's just a flow

00:21:05.380 --> 00:21:07.200
and there's a script. You know, we give everyone

00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:09.940
like I write the show flow and I'm like, all

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right, after this song, Jen, one of our singers,

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like just talk about these facts. You don't have

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to say it word for word. make it yourself and

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and then we go out and we have merch we go out

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after merch because you know we'll make a little

00:21:19.789 --> 00:21:22.150
extra But all my groupies, I'm not even kidding,

00:21:22.269 --> 00:21:25.250
man, there's probably usually five to 10, 70

00:21:25.250 --> 00:21:27.329
plus year old dudes waiting in line to talk to

00:21:27.329 --> 00:21:30.109
me. Yes. It's crazy because they want to talk

00:21:30.109 --> 00:21:31.930
about my guitar playing or I sounded like Lindsay

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or I sounded like Tom or I'm doing an Eagles

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thing. We're playing a big theater on Tuesday

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on a Tuesday, which is crazy. But people show

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up. It's just because we play early too. We're

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done by like 9 p .m. Thank you like good. I can

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go to bed and still wake up at four and walk

00:21:44.589 --> 00:21:48.170
my dog. You know, it's it's not. And these are

00:21:48.170 --> 00:21:49.890
the kind of shows I like doing now too. It's

00:21:49.890 --> 00:21:53.109
like, I don't want to go on stage 11. It sounds

00:21:53.109 --> 00:21:56.190
terrible. Yeah, that's crazy. It goes though,

00:21:56.269 --> 00:21:58.089
but people wanting to go to these shows that

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they're still craving this style of music and

00:22:00.990 --> 00:22:03.049
this type of music. But it seems like maybe they

00:22:03.049 --> 00:22:05.269
just don't know how to get to it when it's released

00:22:05.269 --> 00:22:09.529
online or whatever, because all the pop music

00:22:09.529 --> 00:22:11.509
and stuff, that's the stuff that's being streamed

00:22:11.509 --> 00:22:13.809
and stuff like that. There's a big market, it

00:22:13.809 --> 00:22:16.390
seems, for people craving that old style of music

00:22:16.390 --> 00:22:18.650
and that nostalgic type of rock and stuff. So,

00:22:19.130 --> 00:22:22.650
yeah. Maybe the band's not on tour anymore or

00:22:22.650 --> 00:22:26.369
whatever, but yeah. Yeah. I do. We call it dad

00:22:26.369 --> 00:22:28.410
touring where you like, we'll go to like Idaho

00:22:28.410 --> 00:22:30.970
for like four days and we'll play like three

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shows and then we come back and then we're home

00:22:32.710 --> 00:22:34.109
for a couple of weeks. And it's like, oh, we're

00:22:34.109 --> 00:22:35.549
going to Arizona. I'm like, all right, that's

00:22:35.549 --> 00:22:37.930
good. Like, you know, we're all in a van and

00:22:37.930 --> 00:22:40.960
I'm, I'm okay with it. And I'm okay. And people

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are sitting, you know, it's not like, it's not

00:22:42.460 --> 00:22:45.680
like a rock show where it's, you know, plus most

00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:47.480
of those people can't stand for two hours anymore

00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:49.339
either. I don't want to stand for two hours anymore.

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We even have a segment like what we did in Gracious

00:22:53.140 --> 00:22:55.420
View where the front porch sessions, which I

00:22:55.420 --> 00:22:58.039
still call. where we come out and we sit down

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and we play acoustic like landslide and never

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going back again. You know, like we make an intimate

00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:04.940
moment and songbird where the rest of the band

00:23:04.940 --> 00:23:07.000
leaves and it's just a piano player and Sarah's

00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:09.559
singing songbird, which is like everybody. It's

00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:11.539
like it's like a piss break or take a shot break.

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And then we come out, we finish the set and then

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it's, you know, it's just a fun little adventure

00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:19.480
through time. You recognize the hat. I do. I

00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:21.039
saw that when you were talking earlier. Yeah.

00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:23.440
I don't know. I think I wore mine. That's a great

00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:27.299
shoe hat. Oh, dude. Yeah. Kevin Martin designed

00:23:27.299 --> 00:23:29.359
that. It's based on the twins, the Minnesota

00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:34.619
twins. Yeah. Yeah. That is dope. Is this live,

00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:36.960
like live, live? I'm seeing things on the side.

00:23:37.180 --> 00:23:41.019
Don't swallow any pigs. Ha ha, Renee. Yeah, it's

00:23:41.019 --> 00:23:43.160
live right now. Yeah, we're live. Okay. And we

00:23:43.160 --> 00:23:44.859
recorded as well and then they can watch it later.

00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:46.920
But yeah, it's live right now. That's fine. That's

00:23:46.920 --> 00:23:50.920
fine. Yeah. I won't swallow any pigs. Yeah, sweet.

00:23:51.419 --> 00:23:53.779
Oh, uh, Renee said, don't swallow any picks.

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I swallowed a guitar pick on stage once and I

00:23:56.119 --> 00:24:01.799
did all this finger pick stuff and I don't play

00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:03.279
with a pick anymore. I only play with a thumb

00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:05.539
pick. So like I don't have to swallow any picks.

00:24:05.740 --> 00:24:08.700
I found these black mountain picks. They're spring

00:24:08.700 --> 00:24:11.440
loaded and I love them. But years ago, I think

00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:13.839
it was 2015 I was on stage and there was a segment

00:24:13.839 --> 00:24:15.500
where we break it down and I'm doing all this

00:24:15.500 --> 00:24:17.460
like delay stuff and I put the pick in my mouth

00:24:17.460 --> 00:24:20.440
and I just happened to inhale like at the perfect

00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:23.339
time. And it bypassed everything, like my tongue,

00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:27.660
my mouth, and it went. Oh my god. And it hit

00:24:27.660 --> 00:24:30.680
my gag reflex. And I'm live in front of like

00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:33.700
500, 600 people. And I'm like, oh, like, I'm

00:24:33.700 --> 00:24:35.460
like, what do I do? I'm choking. I can't breathe.

00:24:35.799 --> 00:24:38.579
So I run off stage into the green room. And the

00:24:38.579 --> 00:24:41.500
opening band, all their stuff's there. Right.

00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:45.660
And I'm like gagging. And all in my belly was

00:24:45.660 --> 00:24:48.200
beer, like light beer. So I was like. So like

00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:50.660
a swell of beer comes up because my gag reflex

00:24:50.660 --> 00:24:53.400
is happening. And I'm assuming my pick came up

00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:55.359
with it, but not knowing I'm panics. I'm choking.

00:24:55.940 --> 00:24:58.819
And I'm playing still. I see all the bands equipment.

00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:01.220
And instead of throwing up all over the bands

00:25:01.220 --> 00:25:04.519
equipment, I swallow it to be respectful like

00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:06.059
a dick. I'm like, I should have just kicked all

00:25:06.059 --> 00:25:07.119
over their drums. That would have been a better

00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:10.319
story. So the pick went down and got stuck in

00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:14.230
my sphincter, like just just into your. and it

00:25:14.230 --> 00:25:17.190
got like lodged like so like I was like sweet

00:25:17.190 --> 00:25:20.690
I got it and then I swallowed and like two seconds

00:25:20.690 --> 00:25:23.130
after you swallowed this is really intense tightening

00:25:23.130 --> 00:25:24.869
and then happened the rest of the night so I

00:25:24.869 --> 00:25:26.150
was like I don't know what's going on maybe I

00:25:26.150 --> 00:25:28.349
bruised it so I kept drinking beer just to kind

00:25:28.349 --> 00:25:31.490
of escape and then the next day I woke up and

00:25:31.490 --> 00:25:33.029
I was like something's wrong so I went to the

00:25:33.029 --> 00:25:35.670
ER insured shit they had to put me on down and

00:25:35.670 --> 00:25:38.130
they put this like thing in there and then they

00:25:38.130 --> 00:25:40.250
and I wake up And this guy's holding this like

00:25:40.250 --> 00:25:42.930
neon pink pic. He's like, I can't tell. And he's

00:25:42.930 --> 00:25:44.410
like, the doctor's like, I can't tell anybody

00:25:44.410 --> 00:25:46.829
about this. Because of the doctor patient. And

00:25:46.829 --> 00:25:48.589
I'm like, tell everybody. He's like, I can't.

00:25:48.630 --> 00:25:51.490
I'm like, it's awesome. But they sent me, they

00:25:51.490 --> 00:25:53.549
sent me the pictures and it looks like a pink

00:25:53.549 --> 00:25:55.829
pic just sitting on a butthole. Because it's

00:25:55.829 --> 00:25:58.130
just like, it's a specter. And I just, and I

00:25:58.130 --> 00:25:59.950
have them still somewhere. And I still have that

00:25:59.950 --> 00:26:05.750
pic in that jar. The $3 ,000 guitar pic. Troy

00:26:05.750 --> 00:26:07.589
Garmers asked if you got it back. So obviously

00:26:07.589 --> 00:26:10.269
you did. There you go, Troy. Yes, Troy. I have,

00:26:10.390 --> 00:26:13.230
I still have it. And it's sitting in a, a jar

00:26:13.230 --> 00:26:14.670
somewhere in my studio. Blame that fucking thing,

00:26:14.769 --> 00:26:17.150
man. Put it on your mantle. Definitely. You were

00:26:17.150 --> 00:26:19.069
on the verge, I guess, of having it come out

00:26:19.069 --> 00:26:21.390
the other end then if they didn't go in. Well,

00:26:21.630 --> 00:26:23.170
here's the other thing. The doctors were like,

00:26:23.269 --> 00:26:25.150
this is actually good that this happened because

00:26:25.150 --> 00:26:27.269
how big it was. And because it's plastic that

00:26:27.269 --> 00:26:28.750
like your stomach wouldn't have digested it.

00:26:29.029 --> 00:26:31.849
So this could have caused a lot of actual, like

00:26:31.849 --> 00:26:34.609
real. like serious injuries it could have it

00:26:34.609 --> 00:26:36.910
could have blocked your intestines so they're

00:26:36.910 --> 00:26:39.589
like and then there's once you like have an operation

00:26:39.589 --> 00:26:41.829
your intestines you care you're fucking us your

00:26:41.829 --> 00:26:44.349
life you're constantly gonna have issues so they're

00:26:44.349 --> 00:26:46.529
like it's a good thing you did what you did instead

00:26:46.529 --> 00:26:48.349
of like swallowing it and like getting it through

00:26:48.349 --> 00:26:49.509
into your stomach because you could have had

00:26:49.509 --> 00:26:52.509
way more health issues and the way that you try

00:26:52.509 --> 00:26:56.690
to do that yeah next time when you try it try

00:26:56.690 --> 00:26:59.880
it do it the right way yeah the next time The

00:26:59.880 --> 00:27:02.519
way that ship is, uh, the pick is shaved dude.

00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:04.859
It's like it could go down like the thin way

00:27:04.859 --> 00:27:07.359
and kind of like cut with the edges or it could

00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:10.000
turn around and like really block your airway.

00:27:10.099 --> 00:27:12.200
Yeah. Yeah. Could have been, it could have been,

00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:14.380
but so that's the way it landed. It landed flat

00:27:14.380 --> 00:27:16.640
like it instead of like that. Oh my God. And

00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:18.960
that's why I couldn't breathe. I was like, Oh,

00:27:19.099 --> 00:27:20.759
I ran on stage and that's the Gabby flex. And

00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:22.099
actually it was like trying to get it out. And

00:27:22.099 --> 00:27:28.279
then again, the swell of, but And I took a leg.

00:27:28.619 --> 00:27:32.539
And I finished the show. So the beer came up.

00:27:33.360 --> 00:27:36.180
into your mouth and you put the tip out and then

00:27:36.180 --> 00:27:38.380
you swallowed it. I'm assuming it was it. I was

00:27:38.380 --> 00:27:39.940
in such a panic because it was just like a swell.

00:27:40.220 --> 00:27:41.279
Like, you know, like kind of like you take a

00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:44.480
shot like that kind of thing. It wasn't it wasn't

00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:46.660
vomit. You know, it was just enough to remove

00:27:46.660 --> 00:27:48.980
from your air hole. Yeah. But I remember like,

00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:51.460
like looking at all the drum stuff and I was

00:27:51.460 --> 00:27:53.119
like, I can't throw up on these guys stuff. I

00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:55.119
swallowed it back down and then I went back out

00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:56.839
and playing, but I shouldn't just keep on those

00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:58.460
guys. I don't even remember the band as opening,

00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:00.180
but I should have just threw up all over the

00:28:00.180 --> 00:28:04.019
gear. Totally. They would have had a story. I

00:28:04.019 --> 00:28:05.380
would have been apologetic. We could have laughed

00:28:05.380 --> 00:28:08.599
about it. I would have cleaned it, but instead,

00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:12.559
$3 ,000 later. I have not heard that story. That's

00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:14.759
fucking wild, man. And I don't blame you now

00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:17.319
for using a thumb pick never again. Yeah. Well,

00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:19.099
the thumb pick was an accident. I went down to

00:28:19.099 --> 00:28:20.799
Phoenix a couple of years ago to do an Eagles

00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:24.059
tribute and we stopped at this music store called

00:28:24.059 --> 00:28:27.920
Milano's and they had these These black mountain

00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:30.220
picks and I'm always a jazz three guy like really

00:28:30.220 --> 00:28:32.299
tiny picks because I'm always like a hybrid picker

00:28:32.299 --> 00:28:35.079
and I they had a jazz three style like a really

00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:37.839
sharp and I put it on and I went to play one

00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:40.039
show and I've literally never changed since I

00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:42.440
even play acoustic like I just found the rhythm

00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:45.720
of my hand and I love it like so holding a guitar

00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.839
pick now is foreign to me 30 years. I'm like

00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:51.519
this doesn't feel right So that's kind of crazy

00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:53.759
after 30 years of playing guitar that you found

00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:56.339
like a way that feels more natural to you like

00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:59.700
And you picked it up maybe 15 years ago. And

00:28:59.700 --> 00:29:01.559
who knows what the hell. Yeah. I mean, I picked

00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:03.799
it up two years ago, like the thumb pick because

00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:05.519
the normal thumb picks are stiff and they like

00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:07.880
cut the circulation up in your thumb. And you

00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:10.259
just got to be like, you got to know how to do

00:29:10.259 --> 00:29:12.359
it or grow into it or like just learn how to

00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:14.339
do when you're a kid. I've never gotten into

00:29:14.339 --> 00:29:15.960
it in this particular one because it's spring

00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:19.000
loaded. It moves like an actual pick on your.

00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:22.160
Oh, wow. So it's just kind of, but they're expensive.

00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:25.240
They're like six bucks a pop. And I lose things

00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:28.880
all the time. I've actually been better as I've

00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:30.519
gotten older, you know, trying to like, like,

00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:32.319
where's my wallet? Like I'm putting in the same

00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:35.940
spot. But yeah, I do go through the picks because

00:29:35.940 --> 00:29:38.160
they grind when I play and they just lose their,

00:29:38.420 --> 00:29:40.019
they just become nubs. I'm like, all right, I

00:29:40.019 --> 00:29:43.099
got to order another $60 for five picks or whatever

00:29:43.099 --> 00:29:45.500
it is. Oh, so you wear them down. I was thinking

00:29:45.500 --> 00:29:47.619
like the spring action and it kind of got fucked

00:29:47.619 --> 00:29:49.339
up before that, but you actually wearing them

00:29:49.339 --> 00:29:52.000
down. No, because I still, I still. pick and

00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:53.640
then I still when I have to do like really integral

00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:55.779
stuff, I can hold it like a guitar pick and play

00:29:55.779 --> 00:29:59.200
it. I still do pick scrapes and you know, Chad

00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:02.160
knows me. I'm a reckless sloppy guitar player.

00:30:02.940 --> 00:30:05.940
Yeah. I wouldn't say sloppy, but okay. Well,

00:30:06.299 --> 00:30:09.160
it's sloppy in a cool way. I think it's funny

00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:11.220
because I'm about I'm doing a you know, I'm having

00:30:11.220 --> 00:30:13.099
a YouTube channel been doing a bunch of videos,

00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:15.900
live songs, and I'm about to do appetite. I'm

00:30:15.900 --> 00:30:18.480
going to do appetite. So oh, fun. I was every

00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:20.460
time that every time that every time the bridge

00:30:20.460 --> 00:30:34.430
comes, Yeah, that that whole riff that whole

00:30:34.430 --> 00:30:36.369
little integral riff was originally appetite,

00:30:36.470 --> 00:30:38.230
but like in bar chords That's how we were playing

00:30:38.230 --> 00:30:41.049
it and then okay, and then we're like then but

00:30:41.049 --> 00:30:42.970
like let's slow it down and then that's when

00:30:42.970 --> 00:30:46.750
Kara put that loop on that right the intro and

00:30:46.750 --> 00:30:50.750
then Chad started coming over that and then Jerry

00:30:50.750 --> 00:30:52.690
and I sat at the piano and he started playing

00:30:52.690 --> 00:30:54.490
the riff, like trying to figure it out. And he

00:30:54.490 --> 00:30:57.869
just started like playing that, clearly talking

00:30:57.869 --> 00:31:00.109
about the notes. And I was like, that's cool.

00:31:00.250 --> 00:31:02.630
Like what if we put that over this part? And

00:31:02.630 --> 00:31:06.009
then so I took the Eric Clapton slash aspect

00:31:06.009 --> 00:31:08.329
is where I rolled the tone off all the way to

00:31:08.329 --> 00:31:11.569
zero on my neck pickup. So it was really buttery.

00:31:11.990 --> 00:31:13.990
And then I played it like that. So it had like

00:31:13.990 --> 00:31:16.450
a different, really cool contrast tone to everything

00:31:16.450 --> 00:31:19.410
else. And then seeing that, I practiced that

00:31:19.410 --> 00:31:22.589
in the, um, in the apartment. We just roll it

00:31:22.589 --> 00:31:26.769
down and we all need somebody just playing it

00:31:26.769 --> 00:31:29.670
over and over. And then, you know, dude, that's

00:31:29.670 --> 00:31:32.329
just how you just got, how you just got deep

00:31:32.329 --> 00:31:34.089
into that, where you're talking about rolling

00:31:34.089 --> 00:31:37.869
off the tones and stuff. And how you, we appreciate

00:31:37.869 --> 00:31:39.750
that. I think the audience, uh, get a kick out

00:31:39.750 --> 00:31:41.609
of that was really cool. I've actually thought

00:31:41.609 --> 00:31:44.289
about doing my own little videos about, I remember

00:31:44.289 --> 00:31:46.529
almost every song, like pretty integral, like.

00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:52.839
like people, people's moods, uh, uh, where I'm

00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:54.519
really good at remembering stuff like that. Like,

00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:58.500
like, huh? What do you chalk that up to? Are

00:31:58.500 --> 00:32:00.599
you just so in the moment that it's in great,

00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:03.480
like in your brain or is it just. Yeah. And plus,

00:32:03.579 --> 00:32:05.480
especially with that record, the gracious few

00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:07.339
record, I was the youngest one. So like, there

00:32:07.339 --> 00:32:09.420
was an intimidation happening for multiple reasons,

00:32:09.420 --> 00:32:11.960
but also like I was expected to like bring my

00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:17.019
own output. And there was different. emotional

00:32:17.019 --> 00:32:19.039
squashings by other friends of mine. So there

00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:20.900
was, I was in a weird headspace, but trying to

00:32:20.900 --> 00:32:23.059
like learn to grow, but I was also with guys

00:32:23.059 --> 00:32:24.799
that are like 10 years older than me that were

00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:26.619
like people that I had their records growing

00:32:26.619 --> 00:32:28.200
up to. So I was like, this is cool, but also

00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:31.980
it's intimidating. And, um, so I, I took everything

00:32:31.980 --> 00:32:34.519
in, I observed everything. I was like, I was

00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:36.180
a lot of times are quite so quiet. So I'm like,

00:32:36.220 --> 00:32:38.920
cause I'm taking everything in and like filing

00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:42.700
it. So in, in, you know, in 15 years when I'm

00:32:42.700 --> 00:32:44.599
on the gracious two podcasts, I could talk about

00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:46.950
it. Hell yeah, there you go exactly. Yeah, I

00:32:46.950 --> 00:32:48.569
remember yeah, I remember making that record

00:32:48.569 --> 00:32:50.410
There's a point where everyone had to sit me

00:32:50.410 --> 00:32:53.829
down and because because of my attitude and I'm

00:32:53.829 --> 00:32:57.250
like My dad just died and I just had a fucking

00:32:57.250 --> 00:32:59.950
baby. What do you want me to do? Who was there?

00:33:00.269 --> 00:33:04.809
Yeah, so you're with me like Yeah, I get it.

00:33:04.869 --> 00:33:06.390
Yeah. And you, and you just lie. I think you

00:33:06.390 --> 00:33:07.910
just lost your company. You had a, you had like

00:33:07.910 --> 00:33:10.309
an off -road, uh, Oh yeah. Well, I shut that

00:33:10.309 --> 00:33:12.849
down a couple. Yeah. Okay. I know there was a

00:33:12.849 --> 00:33:14.609
lot, there was a lot of happening in your head.

00:33:15.069 --> 00:33:16.910
And I remember the snooty fox pissed you off.

00:33:17.329 --> 00:33:20.349
Kevin snooty fox. He was on the snooty fox and

00:33:20.349 --> 00:33:23.289
he's always talking like that. Oh yeah. Maybe

00:33:23.289 --> 00:33:24.869
I yelled at one point. I was like, you were,

00:33:24.890 --> 00:33:26.130
you were on the drums one day and you're like,

00:33:26.170 --> 00:33:27.849
you just shut the fuck up and stop with that

00:33:27.849 --> 00:33:33.789
stupid exit. Plus when I'm in the studio, I,

00:33:33.789 --> 00:33:35.710
it's stressful for me because I want to get the

00:33:35.710 --> 00:33:37.730
fuck, I want to get the part exactly right. And

00:33:37.730 --> 00:33:39.630
we're all playing together. Like playing live

00:33:39.630 --> 00:33:41.710
is stressful from like recording live, I should

00:33:41.710 --> 00:33:44.069
say. It's stressful for me. So I want to play

00:33:44.069 --> 00:33:47.049
the part all the way through perfectly. I'm trying

00:33:47.049 --> 00:33:49.849
to get it done. Then if I start fucking up, then

00:33:49.849 --> 00:33:51.569
it fucks with my head and I get pissed off at

00:33:51.569 --> 00:33:54.289
myself. I'm like, God damn it. Yeah, yeah. No,

00:33:54.349 --> 00:33:56.589
I get it. That was my first time like tracking

00:33:56.589 --> 00:33:58.289
live live like that was going to be a record

00:33:58.289 --> 00:34:00.269
that people are going to hear and I actually

00:34:00.269 --> 00:34:01.990
liked it. That was but it was also making you

00:34:01.990 --> 00:34:04.369
like I have to fucking be on point. Yeah. And

00:34:04.369 --> 00:34:06.210
that's how we did all the all the first four

00:34:06.210 --> 00:34:08.409
live records. That's how we made them. Yeah,

00:34:08.570 --> 00:34:10.530
that's how that's how it used to be. You know,

00:34:10.630 --> 00:34:12.469
now it's I remember a couple and I remember a

00:34:12.469 --> 00:34:15.250
couple of times Chad with Chad Grace or Taylor

00:34:15.250 --> 00:34:16.849
is always like, I want to make a rock and roll

00:34:16.849 --> 00:34:21.210
record. And then after one of our takes. I said

00:34:21.210 --> 00:34:22.809
something after the end and he got all mad at

00:34:22.809 --> 00:34:24.949
me and I'm like, Chad, that's fucking rock and

00:34:24.949 --> 00:34:27.110
roll, man. Like you can hear a door opening in

00:34:27.110 --> 00:34:28.909
an Aerosmith record. Like you could hear all

00:34:28.909 --> 00:34:30.949
these people talking. It's like, that was real.

00:34:31.110 --> 00:34:32.929
Like if I farted after the take and you got mad,

00:34:33.150 --> 00:34:34.650
we should just left it in there. Cause that was

00:34:34.650 --> 00:34:36.630
cool. Like that's what happened in the moment.

00:34:36.789 --> 00:34:38.769
But he wanted to complete silence. And I'm like,

00:34:38.809 --> 00:34:41.269
all right, whatever. Do like, have you been,

00:34:41.409 --> 00:34:42.909
have you talked to Kevin lately? I haven't talked

00:34:42.909 --> 00:34:46.329
to Kevin in a couple of years. Uh, well, no man.

00:34:46.489 --> 00:34:48.670
I said, I saw him this past summer. Adam called

00:34:48.670 --> 00:34:52.119
me, uh, Curry and. He had some, cause you know,

00:34:52.460 --> 00:34:57.760
Kevin retired in 20, 24. And then the Bush, the

00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.480
Bush Cantrell tour comes up and he's obviously

00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:04.639
getting paid a shitload of money. And Adam, even

00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.260
Quinn. So Peter Klett came out to do a couple

00:35:07.260 --> 00:35:08.739
of shows cause Quinn's was like, I'm already

00:35:08.739 --> 00:35:11.360
booked man. Like we were done. Same with Adam.

00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:13.119
So Adam called me and he's just like, I'm going

00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:15.139
to pickle. Can you play bass for like five shows?

00:35:16.059 --> 00:35:19.179
I was like, I was like, uh, okay. Like, well,

00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:21.480
so I had to go negotiate payment with Kevin and,

00:35:21.739 --> 00:35:25.619
uh, it was, you know, it's funny. Like, you think

00:35:25.619 --> 00:35:27.099
going out on the road, playing in front of like

00:35:27.099 --> 00:35:29.340
20 ,000 people every night, like would be fun,

00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:34.000
but it wasn't as fun as I wanted to be because

00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:37.500
I think I, first of all, I came into the tour

00:35:37.500 --> 00:35:39.860
halfway, just where everyone's starting to get

00:35:39.860 --> 00:35:42.780
a little tired. Like the crew, everyone, everyone

00:35:42.780 --> 00:35:45.059
just kind of. Yeah. So like the first week, everybody's

00:35:45.059 --> 00:35:47.159
just like, like, Memphis is here. Like this guy's

00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:49.300
cool. He's a fresh energy. And then a week after

00:35:49.300 --> 00:35:51.480
that, I was just like, fuck you, fuck you, fuck

00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:53.179
this guy. This guy does the push cases right.

00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:56.960
And I'm just like, oh, and I'm just like channeling

00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.960
a new energy to like be a better person as a

00:35:59.960 --> 00:36:03.000
human and like meditating. The live nation rep

00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:04.739
came up to me and she's like, you're always at

00:36:04.739 --> 00:36:07.079
island time. Like if something's stressful, you're

00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:09.079
always just like, it's cool, man. And I'm like,

00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:11.340
yeah, because I can't be like this anymore because

00:36:11.340 --> 00:36:13.929
it stresses me. And I have a kid. I can't. be

00:36:13.929 --> 00:36:17.090
tense. So do you internalize the stress and then

00:36:17.090 --> 00:36:19.210
people on the outside don't see it or are you

00:36:19.210 --> 00:36:21.449
just figuring a way to like live in that zen

00:36:21.449 --> 00:36:23.769
area? Well, now I'm a medication, so I don't

00:36:23.769 --> 00:36:26.309
know how I feel anymore. Perfect. That works.

00:36:26.909 --> 00:36:29.670
Perfect. No, I used to be a projector of stress,

00:36:30.030 --> 00:36:32.670
but I've been meditating a lot and trying to

00:36:32.670 --> 00:36:35.130
rechannel, you know, and it's a lot to do with

00:36:35.130 --> 00:36:38.630
family life. Marriage, you know getting older

00:36:38.630 --> 00:36:41.030
like finances everything, you know, you want

00:36:41.030 --> 00:36:43.170
to continue to be a musician It's a hustle, you

00:36:43.170 --> 00:36:45.590
know taxes taxes right now. I'm like a 1099er

00:36:45.590 --> 00:36:48.710
I'm like And then my wife's up, you know, my

00:36:48.710 --> 00:36:51.329
wife's a flattener for Delta said always counteract

00:36:51.329 --> 00:36:52.809
each other like we're gonna get money back I'm

00:36:52.809 --> 00:36:54.590
like no we're not we owe money. It's just like

00:36:54.590 --> 00:36:57.730
this. Yeah consistent battle, but anyways going

00:36:57.730 --> 00:37:01.690
back to Kevin He just he was just a little different

00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:03.800
You know, he was in his own world. So like it

00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:05.820
was like, I hung out with the band, you know,

00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:07.820
and then, and I ended up staying for three weeks

00:37:07.820 --> 00:37:10.300
because they only had one tech and there's a

00:37:10.300 --> 00:37:12.199
lot of throne goes. So I talked to Carlos. I'm

00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:14.800
like, let me just like hang out and I'll help,

00:37:15.019 --> 00:37:17.260
you know, James like set up, I'll set up stage,

00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:19.659
right? Set up stage left. And that way it just

00:37:19.659 --> 00:37:21.179
helps everybody else. And then I would come out

00:37:21.179 --> 00:37:23.019
every day and I'd play it like a cover me on

00:37:23.019 --> 00:37:26.519
acoustic just to like help Kevin like just be

00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:28.159
a front man. I'll just take care of the guitar

00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:32.539
part. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, But yeah, he was just

00:37:32.539 --> 00:37:34.539
kind of in his own world and everyone was also

00:37:34.539 --> 00:37:37.099
in their own world. So I don't know if I don't

00:37:37.099 --> 00:37:38.619
know, but I haven't like talked. I've been meaning

00:37:38.619 --> 00:37:41.320
to call him, but I just haven't because yeah,

00:37:41.460 --> 00:37:45.199
I wish him a happy birthday a few years ago via

00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:46.880
text and he never wrote back. So I was like,

00:37:46.900 --> 00:37:48.719
oh, yeah. But don't, yeah, don't take it personally.

00:37:48.940 --> 00:37:50.420
He's, he does that to a lot of people and people

00:37:50.420 --> 00:37:51.960
write me to look, hey, just give me a number.

00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:59.739
And I'm like, no, he just hates you. As an outsider,

00:37:59.940 --> 00:38:02.260
you think like, you know, as you were doing this

00:38:02.260 --> 00:38:03.719
tour with Kevin right there, you're like, Oh,

00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:05.900
they must be not just playing music on stage

00:38:05.900 --> 00:38:07.739
or hanging out afterwards or talking, but it

00:38:07.739 --> 00:38:10.420
seems like it was like a lot of kind of work.

00:38:10.460 --> 00:38:12.480
And then when it was done, maybe there wasn't

00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.519
much personal combos going on. But as, as fans

00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.860
of bands, we always think like, you guys are

00:38:17.860 --> 00:38:19.739
hanging out all the time. It's like you're on

00:38:19.739 --> 00:38:22.099
stage, you get off stage, it's party time, it's

00:38:22.099 --> 00:38:24.179
fun, blah, blah, blah, blah, but it seems like

00:38:24.179 --> 00:38:26.460
people have individual lives and kind of go their

00:38:26.460 --> 00:38:29.679
separate ways. And yeah, Does that take the fun

00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:33.420
out of like the tour or do you kind of like that?

00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:36.900
You just have to learn how to regroup yourself

00:38:36.900 --> 00:38:40.300
because there's a there's definitely a Perpetual

00:38:40.300 --> 00:38:43.199
adolescence when it comes to touring when people

00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:47.099
become famous or rich or a rock star at a certain

00:38:47.099 --> 00:38:51.019
age and And they always kind of revert back to

00:38:51.019 --> 00:38:55.369
this childlike individual I want to say childlike

00:38:55.369 --> 00:38:57.329
I mean they just like go back to like 20 years

00:38:57.329 --> 00:38:59.030
old even if they're 50 years old there's like

00:38:59.030 --> 00:39:01.230
attitudes that can come out because there's there's

00:39:01.230 --> 00:39:04.489
never been a growth period of like being on the

00:39:04.489 --> 00:39:06.929
norm you know like a nine to five we go home

00:39:06.929 --> 00:39:08.989
every day like that's what people know and then

00:39:08.989 --> 00:39:10.929
our lives are like we're on a bus we're in a

00:39:10.929 --> 00:39:13.670
plane we're in a van like we're going to each

00:39:13.670 --> 00:39:16.929
different city and playing and a lot of the partying

00:39:16.929 --> 00:39:19.679
is fun at first then it becomes Numbing agent

00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:21.340
after a while to a lot of people. That's why

00:39:21.340 --> 00:39:23.599
a lot of musicians or alcoholics or druggies

00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:26.699
because it's it's exhausting to like but then

00:39:26.699 --> 00:39:29.480
also it's It's your own fault for parting all

00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:31.019
night and then having to do radio the next day

00:39:31.019 --> 00:39:32.320
And then you feel like shit and then you're like

00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:34.360
mad at yourself There's that self guilt and then

00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:36.079
and then you sleep and then you're like I have

00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:37.400
soundcheck and then what do you do? You have

00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:39.079
a beer to like kind of make yourself feel better

00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:40.760
next thing You know, it's three in the morning

00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:42.360
again. You're on the tour and you're like what

00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.619
the fuck am I doing? Yeah, and it's the same

00:39:45.619 --> 00:39:47.099
thing, you know, like I don't smoke cigarettes,

00:39:47.300 --> 00:39:49.800
but I went on tour and I got, I got a couple

00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:51.780
of nights. I got pretty saucy. I had some edibles,

00:39:51.860 --> 00:39:54.480
eight mushrooms, but also I'm saying this because

00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:57.940
I was, I was, I didn't have to be a dad when

00:39:57.940 --> 00:39:59.699
I was gone. I was like, Oh, I get to actually

00:39:59.699 --> 00:40:01.760
follow my boys again. But then there was a couple

00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:03.519
of nights where I was just like, Oh, cigarette.

00:40:04.539 --> 00:40:06.820
And then I smoke in the next day. I'm like, why

00:40:06.820 --> 00:40:08.800
did I do that? Like, why did I smoke a cigarette?

00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:11.099
I feel like I just feel crummy. I feel sweaty.

00:40:11.460 --> 00:40:14.239
Like, um, so you have to find a balance of that.

00:40:14.340 --> 00:40:17.170
And that's why I was meditating more. Um, Brian

00:40:17.170 --> 00:40:19.550
Quinn. At the time, Sean, when you were having

00:40:19.550 --> 00:40:22.269
that cigarette, it was oh, so good that even

00:40:22.269 --> 00:40:25.510
though it was glorious. Just at that moment.

00:40:26.250 --> 00:40:28.250
But even Brian Quinn, when we went on this last

00:40:28.250 --> 00:40:31.070
run, he the other guitar player for one of the

00:40:31.070 --> 00:40:34.030
guitar players for candle blocks, he wouldn't.

00:40:34.110 --> 00:40:36.170
He used to drink like like he probably come out

00:40:36.170 --> 00:40:38.210
on stage like a vodka double. And I occasionally

00:40:38.210 --> 00:40:40.070
would fill it when I would check for him. But

00:40:40.070 --> 00:40:43.010
for this run, he was sober until after the show,

00:40:43.150 --> 00:40:45.070
like he wouldn't drink. And he was like, I want

00:40:45.070 --> 00:40:47.050
to be like clear headed. Plus, you know, Jerry

00:40:47.050 --> 00:40:48.769
control is a big fan. Like he's a big fan of

00:40:48.769 --> 00:40:51.050
him. So he wanted to be like, he wanted to be

00:40:51.050 --> 00:40:53.190
on point all the time. And then afterwards then,

00:40:53.329 --> 00:40:55.269
then that couple of nights and he'd come on the

00:40:55.269 --> 00:40:59.570
bar because it was after hours. But again, that

00:40:59.570 --> 00:41:01.949
tour was a lot of the sheds that we would play.

00:41:02.289 --> 00:41:03.949
You weren't around anything. It wasn't like he

00:41:03.949 --> 00:41:05.650
played a club and you can walk outside. There's

00:41:05.650 --> 00:41:07.570
bars everywhere. It was like, we're in the middle

00:41:07.570 --> 00:41:09.250
of nowhere. So you just ended back in the bus

00:41:09.250 --> 00:41:11.250
and we'd watch a movie together and go to bed

00:41:11.250 --> 00:41:14.150
and then wake up and repeat. Yeah. Shed tour

00:41:14.150 --> 00:41:17.840
for sure. Yeah, never around anything. Yeah,

00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:20.940
plus it was that's it. Okay. Yeah. And plus when

00:41:20.940 --> 00:41:22.480
candle box would go on, we were just like, it

00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:26.579
was us, um, Kentrell and then Bush. And so like,

00:41:26.699 --> 00:41:28.340
whenever we'd go on, it was just right when the

00:41:28.340 --> 00:41:31.340
sun was just just punching you in the face middle

00:41:31.340 --> 00:41:33.320
of summer. You're just like, trying to look cool

00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:35.920
in pants. And like, I'm like, oh, I'm playing

00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:38.000
bass, which is just way bigger than me. And I

00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:39.960
play Adam's bass and I'm just like, oh, this

00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:42.760
is so uncomfortable. Like I'm too hot. Like,

00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:44.739
I don't know. They seem to always build those

00:41:44.739 --> 00:41:47.619
sheds facing into the sun, the stage facing into

00:41:47.619 --> 00:41:50.340
the sun. Yeah. And that makes sense because obviously

00:41:50.340 --> 00:41:52.780
you want the crowd to see the band. You know,

00:41:52.860 --> 00:41:54.820
you don't want the crowd to be like, I can't

00:41:54.820 --> 00:41:56.960
see anybody. We're like, ha ha, suckers. Like

00:41:56.960 --> 00:41:59.619
we have to be punished so that the entertainment

00:41:59.619 --> 00:42:02.260
can be enjoyed by them so they can see us. Yeah.

00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:04.440
But conversely, all those sheds have big fucking

00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:06.639
roofs over them. It's like, you could. Yeah.

00:42:06.900 --> 00:42:09.599
You could. Have the audience face the sun and

00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:11.219
they're covered by a roof. It's like what yeah,

00:42:11.219 --> 00:42:13.280
but all the shit that we played it was just like

00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:15.519
shade shade and then here comes the Sun's just

00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:17.679
like this for candlebox We're just shouting at

00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:19.639
you and then country well, and then it's like

00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:22.039
glorious for Bush. It was like every night I

00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:25.539
was just like When you guys are saying sheds

00:42:25.539 --> 00:42:28.260
is this like like an amphitheater or something

00:42:28.260 --> 00:42:31.639
like what do you mean by shit? Okay, yeah Outdoor

00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:33.880
amphitheaters kind of things they call him sheds.

00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:38.570
It's like shed tour and Which I like. Yeah. Yeah.

00:42:39.030 --> 00:42:41.449
I'm getting the music lingo here. I don't, you

00:42:41.449 --> 00:42:43.250
know, I don't have it all down yet. I'm slowly

00:42:43.250 --> 00:42:46.150
getting it. Chad uses acronyms and stuff. Sometimes

00:42:46.150 --> 00:42:48.889
like what? Yeah. My wife and I talked yesterday.

00:42:49.170 --> 00:42:51.150
She's like, I have a habit of leaving shit in

00:42:51.150 --> 00:42:52.949
the car and she's like, I need you to like be

00:42:52.949 --> 00:42:57.510
like, after you park, do a dummy sweep. Yeah.

00:42:57.610 --> 00:42:59.050
It's called, right? It's called a dummy sweep.

00:42:59.230 --> 00:43:01.110
I'm like, what do we call it a dummy check? And

00:43:01.110 --> 00:43:03.530
then so idiot check. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. An

00:43:03.530 --> 00:43:05.510
idiot check. We used to call it a Mercado check.

00:43:05.929 --> 00:43:08.409
No offense, Scott, if you see this, Scott Mercado,

00:43:08.550 --> 00:43:10.469
the drummer from Candlebox, the original Jim,

00:43:10.550 --> 00:43:13.030
he was, he was like, he's a spacey dude. He just

00:43:13.030 --> 00:43:14.750
always was in his own world. So you'd always

00:43:14.750 --> 00:43:16.530
leave shit. And so over time we just thought,

00:43:17.010 --> 00:43:18.969
did you do a Mercado check? Cause like, you have

00:43:18.969 --> 00:43:21.210
to go back and like make sure like nothing was

00:43:21.210 --> 00:43:23.869
left. But yeah, my wife's just like, make sure

00:43:23.869 --> 00:43:25.590
you do a dummy sweep. And I'm like, I actually

00:43:25.590 --> 00:43:26.949
kind of like dummy sweep. It's called a dummy

00:43:26.949 --> 00:43:28.989
check. That's how I'm used to it. And then yesterday

00:43:28.989 --> 00:43:30.889
I'm like, did you do a dummy check? She's like,

00:43:30.929 --> 00:43:33.469
no, it's called a dummy sweep. Right? I'm like,

00:43:33.530 --> 00:43:36.289
whatever it works. Like I will do it. I'm talking

00:43:36.289 --> 00:43:38.090
about, right? Yeah. You know, I'm talking about

00:43:38.090 --> 00:43:41.750
so necessary as you get older. I mean, I feel

00:43:41.750 --> 00:43:43.670
like back in the day, I didn't need to do these

00:43:43.670 --> 00:43:45.630
dummy checks, but now I got to do like three

00:43:45.630 --> 00:43:48.409
of them before I get everything and get it out.

00:43:48.949 --> 00:43:52.050
We have a kid or kids. Yeah. You got to do every

00:43:52.050 --> 00:43:56.440
day, man. I've left so many. Sippy cups or my

00:43:56.440 --> 00:43:59.159
coffee on the roof of my car. I'm putting him

00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:01.699
into his car seat and then I'm driving and I'm

00:44:01.699 --> 00:44:02.940
like, what was that noise? And there's like my

00:44:02.940 --> 00:44:04.659
brand new coffee just everywhere the street.

00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:10.760
I'm like Yeah, it's that or my kid like Yeah,

00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:18.760
my girls are 11 now and my son I know well, have

00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:21.179
you seen pictures of phoenix? He's like six almost

00:44:21.179 --> 00:44:25.150
six threes 15 like six three. Yeah Close to six

00:44:25.150 --> 00:44:27.869
three. He's Baron Trump doing a height. But,

00:44:27.909 --> 00:44:30.429
uh, yeah. Now, now when I get out of the car,

00:44:30.510 --> 00:44:35.829
it's just about picking up trash. Yeah. How do

00:44:35.829 --> 00:44:39.210
you get this much trash in frigging a day? Yeah.

00:44:39.489 --> 00:44:41.570
I've had to let go of things because like, especially

00:44:41.570 --> 00:44:43.849
in the kitchen, like I'm, my mom was a cleaning

00:44:43.849 --> 00:44:46.090
Nazi growing up and I used to hate him, but I

00:44:46.090 --> 00:44:48.269
am now a cleaning Nazi because it's like, I like,

00:44:48.309 --> 00:44:51.090
I scour the sink at like with comment after every

00:44:51.090 --> 00:44:53.139
time. So it's like white. And then my wife comes

00:44:53.139 --> 00:44:55.019
in and she's like, here's some coffee. See you

00:44:55.019 --> 00:44:58.039
later. And then, but also my kid and he's just

00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.460
like, you know, he's a mess. He's four. He's

00:45:00.460 --> 00:45:02.159
almost four. And he's just, and I'm like, I've

00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:04.420
just accepted. I'm like, this is what I have

00:45:04.420 --> 00:45:07.940
to live with for a while or forever. Like, like

00:45:07.940 --> 00:45:10.579
you clean, you just clean it up. And then you

00:45:10.579 --> 00:45:12.219
turn around and it's just like, there's that

00:45:12.219 --> 00:45:13.880
scene in the Simpsons where it's like a clean,

00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:16.679
like Marge opens the door to the kitchen. It's

00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:19.320
beautiful. And then it swings open once. And

00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:21.139
then it's just a disaster because the kids are

00:45:21.139 --> 00:45:23.900
in there. Yeah. My kids I have the kids every

00:45:23.900 --> 00:45:26.760
other week. So I just let it all go for the week.

00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:28.619
They're there and then they leave and I clean

00:45:28.619 --> 00:45:30.340
it up and it's nice and pristine for a week.

00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:34.019
Yeah. Yeah. Otherwise you're just walking with

00:45:34.019 --> 00:45:35.940
your head the whole time like God damn it. They're

00:45:35.940 --> 00:45:37.760
not cleaning up after themselves here. They left.

00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:40.059
I mean I had to get divorced to have that. But

00:45:40.059 --> 00:45:46.699
you know whatever. The benefits of divorce. Yeah.

00:45:46.940 --> 00:45:49.599
The benefits are some benefits. Yeah, I'm telling

00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:51.699
you, uh, you know at first I was like it sucks

00:45:51.699 --> 00:45:53.380
to break up the family But I'll tell you what

00:45:53.380 --> 00:45:56.119
having a week off in a week on it's friggin awesome

00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:59.179
and she was a tiny enjoys it too So it's good

00:45:59.179 --> 00:46:01.099
works out. Of course you need breathing room.

00:46:01.219 --> 00:46:03.739
That's why it's like my wife Brooke. She's a

00:46:03.739 --> 00:46:05.780
flight attendant So she's leaving today. That's

00:46:05.780 --> 00:46:07.719
why I'm actually I'm in my parents basement right

00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:09.920
now because my dad's watching my kid because

00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:12.019
my mom's also a flight attendant They're both

00:46:12.019 --> 00:46:14.900
right. They're both on a same They're on the

00:46:14.900 --> 00:46:17.320
same trip together, but she goes away for like

00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:19.300
three to four days at a time a week and home

00:46:19.300 --> 00:46:22.340
for a couple of days. So it's like she gets,

00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:24.639
she's been to Hawaii like four times in the past

00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:26.179
like month and a half and she's going back to

00:46:26.179 --> 00:46:28.059
Hawaii in a couple of weeks. And I'll call her

00:46:28.059 --> 00:46:31.800
and she's just like, Oh, I'm at the beach. And

00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:36.400
I'm just like, like, so when she comes home,

00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:40.489
I'm like. I need some me time, go, dog, take

00:46:40.489 --> 00:46:42.769
care of Hopper. I'm gonna go do as much as I

00:46:42.769 --> 00:46:44.610
possibly can by myself for one day, leave me

00:46:44.610 --> 00:46:47.170
alone, please. And then, but she gets it too.

00:46:47.250 --> 00:46:48.969
She's like, yeah, she's like, oh yeah, I've been

00:46:48.969 --> 00:46:52.010
on, I've been gone for a few days and I don't

00:46:52.010 --> 00:46:54.329
know, just silly, silly how like you, you gotta,

00:46:54.469 --> 00:46:56.570
you need the breaks or you go mental. Like I

00:46:56.570 --> 00:46:59.289
don't, living out here in Utah now, I don't get,

00:46:59.969 --> 00:47:02.269
well, I get it. Like, you know, I'm not Mormon.

00:47:02.550 --> 00:47:04.389
I married into a Mormon family. My wife's not

00:47:04.389 --> 00:47:07.730
Mormon, but Hopper's number 16. of the grandchildren.

00:47:08.190 --> 00:47:11.409
Wow. I have a brother. I have a brother and like

00:47:11.409 --> 00:47:13.750
two cousins, my whole family. And then I now

00:47:13.750 --> 00:47:15.869
it's like my whole family is like 40 people and

00:47:15.869 --> 00:47:18.510
I'm like, oh my God. But I don't see I don't

00:47:18.510 --> 00:47:21.869
understand how these it's crazy Christmas too.

00:47:22.050 --> 00:47:25.150
It's crazy. Oh, yeah. You need like chaos to

00:47:25.150 --> 00:47:28.389
have it at your house or that does one of our

00:47:28.389 --> 00:47:30.269
houses is big enough to handle all those people.

00:47:30.389 --> 00:47:32.289
We go to like the, you know, we go to the elders

00:47:32.289 --> 00:47:35.239
that have way bigger houses. But like I see these

00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:37.820
people, they drive the 15 passenger, you know,

00:47:37.860 --> 00:47:41.179
we call them the plague rigs out here. And they

00:47:41.179 --> 00:47:43.639
have like eight, nine kids. And I'm like, how,

00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:47.320
how, how do you even like stay like with a smile?

00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:49.179
And then it's also, there's medications out here.

00:47:49.219 --> 00:47:51.139
It's called Happy Valley. So everyone's on like,

00:47:51.300 --> 00:47:53.159
just like, I'm happy because I have all these

00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:56.280
kids. And I'm just like, it's a bizarre culture

00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:59.969
out here, but. I can eat kids schedules like

00:47:59.969 --> 00:48:02.389
bringing them to cheerleading practice football

00:48:02.389 --> 00:48:04.650
practice like whatever is going on. That's eight

00:48:04.650 --> 00:48:07.369
different people. You go. You got to manage and

00:48:07.369 --> 00:48:10.130
then they have kids and I like my my in -laws

00:48:10.130 --> 00:48:12.369
Scott and Vicky. They're troopers, man. They're

00:48:12.369 --> 00:48:14.369
like every I'll call them on Saturday. I'm like,

00:48:14.369 --> 00:48:16.130
Hey, can you watch hoppers like, no, we got a

00:48:16.130 --> 00:48:17.889
basketball game from eight to 10. Then we got

00:48:17.889 --> 00:48:19.230
to go to a soccer game that we got to a hockey

00:48:19.230 --> 00:48:22.530
game that we got to this. And I'm like, and Scott

00:48:22.530 --> 00:48:25.659
remarried. to a woman who's also got another

00:48:25.659 --> 00:48:28.639
30 people. So if you put the whole blended family,

00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:30.880
there's almost like 70 people in my family now,

00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:33.639
like, and that's just her side. And then there's

00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:36.519
like starting a militia. Oh, my God. And then

00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:38.239
there's my mom and dad, my brother and I, it's

00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:39.599
like the four of us. And they were like, Hey,

00:48:39.699 --> 00:48:42.840
we're from Cali. We're we're the oddballs out

00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:46.039
here and walking in. But I don't know. I don't

00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:48.820
have one kid. And I'm like, I don't, I don't

00:48:48.820 --> 00:48:51.179
know how you're like at your wit's and you're

00:48:51.179 --> 00:48:53.480
like, they got eight. And then kids on top of

00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:57.360
that. Yeah. Maybe sometimes it gets like after

00:48:57.360 --> 00:48:59.860
you have like three and then they start like

00:48:59.860 --> 00:49:02.300
aging properly, then like the fourth ones help

00:49:02.300 --> 00:49:04.360
and raise the first one. And it starts to help

00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:06.860
out rather than become a hinderance. Who knows?

00:49:07.260 --> 00:49:09.199
Oh yeah. I've talked to a couple. There was one

00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:11.559
Mormon guy I talked to. He's just like, after

00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:13.619
a while, they're just utility kids. So it's like,

00:49:14.139 --> 00:49:15.980
You know, if you lose one, you still like eight

00:49:15.980 --> 00:49:18.639
more left. I'm just like, what are you talking

00:49:18.639 --> 00:49:20.519
about? But yeah, they all help each other. You

00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:21.800
know, after a while, it's like they get to a

00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:23.320
point like hoppers at the age where I'm like,

00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:25.739
hey, will you go do this? He's like, yep. I'm

00:49:25.739 --> 00:49:27.559
like, awesome. Like, I don't ever want to do

00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:28.599
that again. But then he's going to get to the

00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:30.079
age who's going to be like, you dad, I'm not

00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.320
going to do that. All right. All right. So I'm

00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:33.780
going to take advantage as much as he wants to

00:49:33.780 --> 00:49:36.139
like help me right now. Or you dad, I'll go do

00:49:36.139 --> 00:49:38.579
that. But what's in it for me? Yeah, exactly.

00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:43.000
Do I get a lollipop? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Looking

00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:47.860
for the fund school. Uh, Sean, does, uh, does

00:49:47.860 --> 00:49:49.760
your son get into anything musical or anything?

00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:52.800
Is he staying at a dad's footsteps or is he following

00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:55.139
at all? Well, mom's musical too. We're both,

00:49:55.219 --> 00:49:57.480
she does, she used to do, uh, cover bands in

00:49:57.480 --> 00:49:59.519
Dallas, like, you know, every Thursday, Friday.

00:49:59.619 --> 00:50:02.760
That was her living. Um, she still does, but

00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:05.460
not as much as I do. And we have a, I have a

00:50:05.460 --> 00:50:09.039
studio on my house and he plays drums, plays

00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:11.079
piano. I mean, I know when I say he plays this

00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:13.179
stuff, he's just hitting things, making noise.

00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:18.280
But yeah, and he's got pitch. He can hear something.

00:50:18.539 --> 00:50:19.980
He'll know when a song's in a different key.

00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:22.059
He's like, dad, this song's higher. This song's

00:50:22.059 --> 00:50:24.820
lower. And it's the same song. And on Tuesdays,

00:50:24.820 --> 00:50:27.039
we have music class. It's 30 minutes. It's like

00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:30.360
two to four -year -olds. And you play xylophones

00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:32.639
and maracas. And he's singing songs and learning

00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:35.019
Spanish. But he's definitely one of the top.

00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:37.360
Even the teachers are like, he's He's like above

00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:39.099
everyone and I'm like, well, we're both musicians.

00:50:39.300 --> 00:50:41.800
So he's just involved with it all the time. Right.

00:50:42.940 --> 00:50:45.199
Yeah. It's cute though. He, he, uh, he's really

00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:47.880
into this band called OMFG, which I told him

00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:52.719
it's only, only milk for giraffes. I like that.

00:50:53.019 --> 00:50:55.559
But it's like child techno. It's like the same

00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:59.099
four chords with like, we're like just techno,

00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:02.460
like, and then it's like the next song. It's

00:51:02.460 --> 00:51:07.699
the same song, but just different sounds. Like

00:51:07.699 --> 00:51:11.280
I could make this in like my home in like three

00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:13.219
minutes and put it out there and get all these

00:51:13.219 --> 00:51:15.440
people hooked on this type of music. Absolutely.

00:51:15.780 --> 00:51:19.420
Absolutely. Um, we, uh, actually my, my, my songwriting

00:51:19.420 --> 00:51:21.619
partner, Brian Hague and I, we started a little

00:51:21.619 --> 00:51:24.900
company called rocker by daddies. And we joined

00:51:24.900 --> 00:51:28.380
up with a, a, a production team at a Nashville

00:51:28.380 --> 00:51:31.039
friend of mine and they sent us a Nickelodeon

00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:34.079
pitch and we got it. like our first pitch, we

00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:36.199
got a theme song called super duper bunny leagues.

00:51:36.260 --> 00:51:38.739
It just came out in April. And so we're like,

00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:40.239
so now like Brian, I were like, we can start

00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:41.960
saying we're Nickelodeon theme song composers,

00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:45.179
man. And then my kid loves it. And I'm like,

00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:46.679
great. Cause he sings. He's like, dad, play super

00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:50.500
duper bunny league. And then, uh, um, Bobby,

00:51:50.579 --> 00:51:52.659
we had him pull it up for you. So I believe he

00:51:52.659 --> 00:51:54.820
has the intro song that you guys did. So we'll

00:51:54.820 --> 00:51:57.239
see if he gets this right. We actually had this

00:51:57.239 --> 00:51:58.739
planned out. Sean, I don't know if you catch

00:51:58.739 --> 00:52:02.869
the show, but our young Bobby producer. Sometimes

00:52:02.869 --> 00:52:05.429
has technical difficulties, but we'll see. Okay.

00:52:06.769 --> 00:52:44.400
Sweet. Here we go. Nice. Yeah, baby. Who's singing?

00:52:45.260 --> 00:52:47.880
So check this out. So this was, we had never

00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:49.480
done anything like this before. We're just like,

00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:51.599
well, let's just, let's just write something

00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:53.440
hooky and fun. They kind of gave us like, we

00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:56.300
want like some kind of seventies, like disco

00:52:56.300 --> 00:52:58.619
balance meets, whatever. So we came up with this

00:52:58.619 --> 00:53:01.260
stuff. We hired, we didn't even hire. We just

00:53:01.260 --> 00:53:04.590
told our buddy. David K. Martin, he's actually

00:53:04.590 --> 00:53:06.050
in the Eagles treaty with us because he's got

00:53:06.050 --> 00:53:10.190
a glorious voice. He's saying super duper bonnie

00:53:10.190 --> 00:53:12.750
Lee and sometimes they're in space. And they

00:53:12.750 --> 00:53:14.829
kept it. Nickelodeon liked his voice. So they

00:53:14.829 --> 00:53:20.849
kept it. And he got he got $6 ,000. Nickelodeon

00:53:20.849 --> 00:53:23.710
paid him six grand for that. And then Brian Hagan

00:53:23.710 --> 00:53:26.289
had to split four grand for writing the song

00:53:26.289 --> 00:53:28.309
as just like the upfront. We obviously get the

00:53:28.309 --> 00:53:31.650
songwriting in the future, but we're like, we're

00:53:31.650 --> 00:53:33.610
like motherfucker you got six grand we had a

00:53:33.610 --> 00:53:36.590
split four grand and we wrote the song and so

00:53:36.590 --> 00:53:38.650
we still haven't it just aired so like you know

00:53:38.650 --> 00:53:41.030
hopefully like you know in five years something

00:53:41.030 --> 00:53:42.489
all this money comes and we're like oh sweet

00:53:42.489 --> 00:53:44.329
I forgot about we wrote the song called super

00:53:44.329 --> 00:53:46.690
duper money and I can't say Brian I just wrote

00:53:46.690 --> 00:53:50.329
it we wrote the initial song Nickelodeon took

00:53:50.329 --> 00:53:53.230
it in and then Tish and her husband Matt Mahaffey

00:53:53.230 --> 00:53:55.590
they wrote back and they're like hey we're in

00:53:55.590 --> 00:53:57.349
the top three and I'm like is that good like

00:53:57.349 --> 00:53:58.710
I just got to the point in the entertainment

00:53:58.710 --> 00:54:01.599
industry where I just expect Terribleness at

00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:03.400
all times. So if something does good happen,

00:54:03.420 --> 00:54:05.320
then I'm actually excited about it. And then

00:54:05.320 --> 00:54:08.659
we got top two and then Tisha called me and she's

00:54:08.659 --> 00:54:10.219
like, Hey, they decided to go down a different

00:54:10.219 --> 00:54:11.719
route. They're going to look for some more songwriters.

00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:13.579
Do you want to take another stab at it? I said,

00:54:13.619 --> 00:54:15.320
no, they're going to come back to it. And I was,

00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:17.900
I was cocky about it. And then Matt, her husband's

00:54:17.900 --> 00:54:19.519
like, I like this guy. He still had never met

00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:21.500
me. And I said, this, this used to happen to

00:54:21.500 --> 00:54:23.820
my dad. My dad was an imagineer for Disney, you

00:54:23.820 --> 00:54:25.800
know, like did all sorts of awesome shit for

00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:28.739
Disney. And my dad used to write like thousand

00:54:28.739 --> 00:54:31.590
page scripts for. Um, he was a concept writer.

00:54:31.710 --> 00:54:34.409
So he would, he would write what you would see.

00:54:34.650 --> 00:54:36.449
And then, then people would build it instead

00:54:36.449 --> 00:54:38.750
of like an artist. He would just like write it.

00:54:38.809 --> 00:54:40.449
And then he'd give it. And then all the suits

00:54:40.449 --> 00:54:41.909
would have to make their notes on it. So like,

00:54:42.030 --> 00:54:43.610
I have a part of this. And then my dad would

00:54:43.610 --> 00:54:45.469
make the changes, make the changes, make the

00:54:45.469 --> 00:54:47.250
changes. And my dad used to go fuck this. And

00:54:47.250 --> 00:54:49.550
then he resend the same, the first script and

00:54:49.550 --> 00:54:51.670
they always approved it. Yeah. They like, they

00:54:51.670 --> 00:54:53.250
had no clue. They just were like, Oh, I had a

00:54:53.250 --> 00:54:54.750
part of this. And my dad's like, no, I wrote

00:54:54.750 --> 00:54:56.980
everything. You guys are idiots. So that's. That

00:54:56.980 --> 00:54:59.199
was the concept I took. And I told Tish and Matt

00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:02.019
that I said, they just want to have their hand

00:55:02.019 --> 00:55:04.579
in it. And then I said, they'll come back to

00:55:04.579 --> 00:55:06.300
it. And then I was at a Beach Boys concert in

00:55:06.300 --> 00:55:08.880
Logan about 90 minutes north and Tish texted

00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:11.539
me. She's like, we got it. I'm like, hmm. So

00:55:11.539 --> 00:55:14.000
Nickelodeon, because they have a relationship

00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:17.679
with Tish and Matt, and Matt wrote Expedia .com,

00:55:17.860 --> 00:55:20.460
like that's him. They wanted him to exclusively

00:55:20.460 --> 00:55:23.730
produce it. So from there, Tish and Matt. added

00:55:23.730 --> 00:55:25.489
their own flavor and I sent them all the stems

00:55:25.489 --> 00:55:27.170
and then it was so it was a co -written of the

00:55:27.170 --> 00:55:29.250
four of us but Brian and I gave up gave them

00:55:29.250 --> 00:55:33.369
the the hooks and even the climb the do -do -do

00:55:33.369 --> 00:55:35.469
-do -do -do -do -do sometimes they're in space.

00:55:35.869 --> 00:55:39.829
I ripped that off from Mark Ronson in Uptown

00:55:39.829 --> 00:55:48.579
Funk. And then my song, did you think we'd get

00:55:48.579 --> 00:55:50.440
sued? I'm like, no, it's like, it's nothing like

00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:52.519
it. Like we're being inspired by that part. And

00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:55.079
it's familiar to people's ears and they're going

00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:57.639
to like it. And sure. Shit. They, they took the,

00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:00.840
the bite for it. And then they sent us another

00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:03.320
Nickelodeon theme song a few months back for

00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:06.739
a Spongebob record. And we got that too. So yeah,

00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:09.400
that's not released yet. So we can't play it

00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:10.920
yet. I can't, I can't say anything, but it's

00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:13.400
called happy sappy summer song. I think that's

00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:17.690
what we called it. And just wrote it like I wrote

00:56:17.690 --> 00:56:19.389
the music a long time ago and Brian had this

00:56:19.389 --> 00:56:22.190
idea and we got together and it just came out

00:56:22.190 --> 00:56:23.809
and there's actually on my Instagram there's

00:56:23.809 --> 00:56:26.969
a video of me playing lap steel at one point

00:56:26.969 --> 00:56:29.050
like writing a new song or something and that

00:56:29.050 --> 00:56:31.269
particular take which was my second take because

00:56:31.269 --> 00:56:33.530
I wanted to film it is what is on the record.

00:56:34.190 --> 00:56:36.389
I was just like sweet this is what came out but

00:56:36.389 --> 00:56:38.789
it's cool that we have a SpongeBob song now which

00:56:38.789 --> 00:56:43.219
is kind of cool. Before the show, I was telling

00:56:43.219 --> 00:56:45.760
John how incredibly talented you are. I've always

00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:50.699
admired that about you. But your dad is an amazing

00:56:50.699 --> 00:56:54.079
artist. And then obviously, your brother's a

00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:57.599
musician too, and a great musician. Are there

00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:00.699
things at the park that your dad designed that

00:57:00.699 --> 00:57:04.840
you can point to and go, like he was dad? Let

00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:07.659
me go back. Let me go back here. So my great

00:57:07.659 --> 00:57:11.849
-grandfather was one of the handful of artists

00:57:11.849 --> 00:57:14.889
with Walt Disney. So like, weird as recently

00:57:14.889 --> 00:57:19.610
watching, what movie was it? It was like Pinocchio

00:57:19.610 --> 00:57:21.590
was one of those, it was one of the more obscure

00:57:21.590 --> 00:57:23.710
ones, but if you go back and watch Peter Pan,

00:57:24.170 --> 00:57:27.190
Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Pinocchio, Snow

00:57:27.190 --> 00:57:29.369
White, all of those, you will see either it's

00:57:29.369 --> 00:57:31.369
like a layout artist, which will be Hugh Hennessey,

00:57:31.389 --> 00:57:33.369
which was my great grandfather. So he was one,

00:57:33.510 --> 00:57:35.710
he was many of the artists of Fantasia, all of

00:57:35.710 --> 00:57:38.590
those cartoons. And that's my son, Hopper Hugh.

00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:42.539
is named after him. But we spelled Hugh. Hugh

00:57:42.539 --> 00:57:44.739
hated his name. And my uncle Michael is Michael

00:57:44.739 --> 00:57:48.820
Hugh. But we changed Hugh to HUE for the color

00:57:48.820 --> 00:57:51.559
spectrum to give it like an artist nod of like,

00:57:51.780 --> 00:57:53.179
there's the Hugh Hennessey, but we spelled the

00:57:53.179 --> 00:57:55.440
different to just mix it up and make our son

00:57:55.440 --> 00:57:59.719
unique as a human in his name. Oh, my. I'm not

00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:04.119
like. Yeah. So we did. He did all of that. And

00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:06.360
then my grandfather came and Dale Hennessey.

00:58:06.670 --> 00:58:08.809
And he worked for Disney for a while. And he

00:58:08.809 --> 00:58:10.769
came up with the first concept of Main Street

00:58:10.769 --> 00:58:14.449
and Tomorrowland. And there's paintings of it

00:58:14.449 --> 00:58:17.809
that you can buy at Disneyland of this cool 60s

00:58:17.809 --> 00:58:21.489
-looking, futuristic style of the rocket ship

00:58:21.489 --> 00:58:24.570
when you first walk in. And so he did those concepts.

00:58:24.750 --> 00:58:25.789
So it's like, when you walk into Main Street,

00:58:26.050 --> 00:58:28.550
you can see my grandpa was the first concept.

00:58:28.769 --> 00:58:31.190
He drew these. He was Main Street. And then my

00:58:31.190 --> 00:58:35.730
grandpa left and worked for him. Like did a side

00:58:35.730 --> 00:58:38.289
gig like a 20th century Fox or one of those theaters

00:58:38.289 --> 00:58:41.329
back in like the 50s or 60s and Walt found out

00:58:41.329 --> 00:58:44.650
about it and Walt was like Mafia like if you're

00:58:44.650 --> 00:58:46.789
my family you're in my family and so apparently

00:58:46.789 --> 00:58:49.289
my grandpa and Walt Disney got in this big fight

00:58:49.289 --> 00:58:52.050
and My grandpa's just like fuck you. I'm leaving.

00:58:52.210 --> 00:58:53.849
I'm gonna go work in the movie industry. Well,

00:58:53.889 --> 00:58:56.269
it's like, yeah, go have fun with that So my

00:58:56.269 --> 00:58:58.590
grandpa ended up leaving he won an Academy Award

00:58:58.590 --> 00:59:01.070
for fantastic voyage for art directing he did

00:59:01.820 --> 00:59:03.900
He was the art director for young Frankenstein,

00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:07.380
Annie, Logan's run. He did a bunch of dirty Harry's.

00:59:07.539 --> 00:59:11.300
He did a bunch of shit. The King and I, I'm sure

00:59:11.300 --> 00:59:14.179
there's more. But during all of that, while he

00:59:14.179 --> 00:59:19.079
was on my dad got a job at Disney building models

00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:24.699
when he was like 17 or 18, like Naomi, like Naomi,

00:59:24.900 --> 00:59:28.289
the supermodel or like other months. Oh, yeah,

00:59:28.510 --> 00:59:30.510
yeah, buildings, buildings, Naomi's and yeah,

00:59:30.710 --> 00:59:32.750
building analog, you know, stuff that computers

00:59:32.750 --> 00:59:35.409
do these days that so like all these huge, like

00:59:35.409 --> 00:59:36.949
little parks, my dad's like, there's pictures.

00:59:37.110 --> 00:59:39.670
There's actually, if you go on Disney plus, there's

00:59:39.670 --> 00:59:42.469
like the imaginary story or something. And episode

00:59:42.469 --> 00:59:46.369
three, my dad is the thumbnail. It's like, and

00:59:46.369 --> 00:59:48.530
he has hair. So it took me a minute. That's my

00:59:48.530 --> 00:59:50.889
dad. And so he's like, he's like sitting in front

00:59:50.889 --> 00:59:52.570
of a model like you kind of see half his face.

00:59:53.019 --> 00:59:55.360
And he's like doing something. And that's like,

00:59:55.579 --> 00:59:57.260
that's my dad, my dad, my watch together. He's

00:59:57.260 --> 00:59:59.260
like, holy shit, that's me. Like had no clue.

01:00:00.539 --> 01:00:02.679
So he started doing that. He ended up getting

01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:05.659
an award for the most injuries. Cause he used

01:00:05.659 --> 01:00:07.800
to like juggle scalpels and be an idiot. Cause

01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:09.260
he's like 18, like, guys, look at me. And then

01:00:09.260 --> 01:00:12.699
like a scalpel just falls into his leg. So then

01:00:12.699 --> 01:00:14.980
he ended up enlisting cause that's when the draft

01:00:14.980 --> 01:00:16.380
of Vietnam is going to happen. And he says, I

01:00:16.380 --> 01:00:18.539
got better enlist. So they didn't get sent to

01:00:18.539 --> 01:00:22.599
war, but he ended up in four. Worth Texas, I

01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:25.340
think for two years and ended up in the photography

01:00:25.340 --> 01:00:27.599
department. He hated it. Obviously it wasn't

01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:31.340
and then when he came back He had a VW bus and

01:00:31.340 --> 01:00:32.940
he said it took him like three days to drive

01:00:32.940 --> 01:00:35.059
back to California because he was against the

01:00:35.059 --> 01:00:38.400
win the whole time like a VW like pedal and that

01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:42.139
is going like 30 and he gets back and then His

01:00:42.139 --> 01:00:44.139
dad was working on young Frankenstein and so

01:00:44.139 --> 01:00:46.340
he goes on set and he meets Mel Brooks for the

01:00:46.340 --> 01:00:48.420
first time and wow he's like my introduction

01:00:48.420 --> 01:00:50.710
to Mel Brooks was He's like, hey, nice to meet

01:00:50.710 --> 01:00:52.030
you. He's like, what do you do? He's like, well,

01:00:52.090 --> 01:00:53.949
nothing, sir. I just got out of the army and

01:00:53.949 --> 01:00:58.110
Mel Brooks says, get a job, you bum. And so after

01:00:58.110 --> 01:01:00.130
that, my grandpa basically was like, hey, do

01:01:00.130 --> 01:01:02.170
you want to be a PA? Just like, get your feet

01:01:02.170 --> 01:01:04.150
back. So yeah, so he became a PA and he was just

01:01:04.150 --> 01:01:06.010
kind of working on all these movies. He worked

01:01:06.010 --> 01:01:08.909
on Logan's Run. And he has a funny story where

01:01:08.909 --> 01:01:11.030
there's a scene where they're all escaping and

01:01:11.030 --> 01:01:13.110
they're all climbing up this mountain. And obviously

01:01:13.110 --> 01:01:16.030
it's fake because it's dolls. But he was hired

01:01:16.030 --> 01:01:19.260
to go like, go find like the 12 inch gi jo dolls

01:01:19.260 --> 01:01:21.719
that you know but they were all sold out so he

01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:24.400
went to we ho west hollywood and back in the

01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:26.920
60s they had these things called gay bob dolls

01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:31.980
and they were they were like tall just gay man

01:01:31.980 --> 01:01:33.940
and and they came in a closet that was their

01:01:33.940 --> 01:01:36.579
box and you open it up and you can dress them

01:01:36.579 --> 01:01:39.460
up so my dad bought like a plethora of gay bob

01:01:39.460 --> 01:01:41.219
dolls and they dressed him up like the logan's

01:01:41.219 --> 01:01:43.019
run so they so if you watch the movie and you

01:01:43.019 --> 01:01:45.530
see these guys climbing up that this mountain,

01:01:45.670 --> 01:01:49.289
they're all these gay Bob dolls. I love that

01:01:49.289 --> 01:01:51.710
kind of stuff. That's right. Who even knew they

01:01:51.710 --> 01:01:54.010
were making gay dolls back in the end? I know.

01:01:54.349 --> 01:01:58.730
Right? West Hollywood. Yeah, in a closet. So

01:01:58.730 --> 01:02:02.309
then my dad wanted to be a writer. So he wrote

01:02:02.309 --> 01:02:04.849
a show secretly outside of Disney for almost

01:02:04.849 --> 01:02:07.969
like a kind of a Chuck E. Cheese somewhere in

01:02:07.969 --> 01:02:10.769
Burbank where it was animatronics. And he wrote

01:02:10.769 --> 01:02:12.829
the show to that. And then I guess some Disney

01:02:12.829 --> 01:02:15.889
executives came. to eat lunch and they saw the

01:02:15.889 --> 01:02:18.409
show and they were like, hey, like who wrote

01:02:18.409 --> 01:02:19.670
your show? And they're like, oh, this guy Scott

01:02:19.670 --> 01:02:21.889
Hennessy. And they were like, huh, Scott Hennessy

01:02:21.889 --> 01:02:24.250
works for Disney. So then they call him, like

01:02:24.250 --> 01:02:26.210
the executives call my dad in and my dad's like,

01:02:26.289 --> 01:02:28.190
oh, fuck, I'm getting fired. And they walk in

01:02:28.190 --> 01:02:30.369
and they're like, hey, you want a writing position?

01:02:30.809 --> 01:02:32.449
And my dad's like, hell yeah, they're like, just

01:02:32.449 --> 01:02:34.409
don't do that again. So then he started becoming

01:02:34.409 --> 01:02:37.329
a writer from that. And then he became one of

01:02:37.329 --> 01:02:39.449
the head writers for Epcot. This was in like

01:02:39.449 --> 01:02:41.750
late 70s, early 80s when they were building Epcot.

01:02:42.509 --> 01:02:45.090
And that's when I was conceived. So there's 30

01:02:45.090 --> 01:02:47.550
of us or 31 of us. There's like a, we're called

01:02:47.550 --> 01:02:49.550
Eptots because we were all the kids that were

01:02:49.550 --> 01:02:51.630
born. There was like a newspaper article somewhere.

01:02:51.730 --> 01:02:54.130
If I find it, I'll send it to you guys. Um, it

01:02:54.130 --> 01:02:56.570
lives in Florida this time. No, but he was just

01:02:56.570 --> 01:02:58.550
commuting. He was, we were in Burbank with one

01:02:58.550 --> 01:03:00.050
of the heads. So he was always in Florida. And

01:03:00.050 --> 01:03:02.010
again, I'm, I'm like, I'm a sperm at the time.

01:03:02.090 --> 01:03:05.550
I don't know. And, and then I'm an Eptots. I

01:03:05.550 --> 01:03:07.190
guess I'm not a sperm. I'm, I'm a little guy.

01:03:07.389 --> 01:03:10.550
And then my dad wrote a show called the kitchen

01:03:10.550 --> 01:03:13.920
cabaret. Um, with two other guys that were the

01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:15.820
artists that created the visuals. My dad wrote

01:03:15.820 --> 01:03:18.280
all the songs or all the scripts. And then that

01:03:18.280 --> 01:03:20.739
was kind of like a country bears thing where

01:03:20.739 --> 01:03:23.579
it was, it was fruits and vegetables pun central

01:03:23.579 --> 01:03:25.239
where you can go sit down and watch all these,

01:03:25.300 --> 01:03:27.579
you know, veggie, veggie fruit, fruit, veggie,

01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:29.780
fruit, fruit. They wrote all those types of songs.

01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:33.139
Dude, ahead of its time, like I have my nephew,

01:03:33.300 --> 01:03:35.400
like he's watching all these veggie fruit, fruit

01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:37.480
things on YouTube with music in the background.

01:03:37.500 --> 01:03:39.900
Like, so that was ahead of its time back then

01:03:39.900 --> 01:03:42.760
for them doing that stuff. Yeah my dad recently

01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:44.480
a couple years ago started getting royalties

01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:45.639
again he's like i don't know why i'm getting

01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:48.940
royalties and then we went to Epcot to see some

01:03:48.940 --> 01:03:52.119
family and for the big firework show veggie fruit

01:03:52.119 --> 01:03:54.380
fruit started playing in the montage and i looked

01:03:54.380 --> 01:03:56.380
at my that's where you're getting royalties songs

01:03:56.380 --> 01:03:59.099
being played every single night um so he did

01:03:59.099 --> 01:04:01.920
that and then in the late 80s he started working

01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:05.139
with the japanese for tokyo disney sea and he

01:04:05.139 --> 01:04:08.900
was a head writer. and uh he my brother my mom

01:04:08.900 --> 01:04:11.619
and uh my dad just went to japan last week for

01:04:11.619 --> 01:04:14.699
the the dodgers game they flew out there but

01:04:14.699 --> 01:04:19.579
my dad said that basically uh well my brother

01:04:19.579 --> 01:04:21.500
was just like dad was like on a parade float

01:04:21.500 --> 01:04:22.920
the whole time because he's like kind of a celebrity

01:04:22.920 --> 01:04:24.840
out there with a lot of the japanese because

01:04:24.840 --> 01:04:27.440
he was there for 20 years back and forth and

01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:30.159
uh so they went to tokyo dis me see in my brother

01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:32.099
sends me a picture and there's one of the rides

01:04:32.099 --> 01:04:33.639
where they're riding. And there's all these submarine

01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:35.599
captains and my dad's one of them. Like he's

01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:37.699
up there like, and I was like, that's cool, man.

01:04:37.780 --> 01:04:41.440
You're like a mortalized that TDS. But yeah.

01:04:41.539 --> 01:04:43.579
So he was just a writer for that long doing all

01:04:43.579 --> 01:04:46.039
that stuff. I can't say he did anything at the

01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:51.260
mayor in Anaheim. I know he wrote the Buzz Lightyear,

01:04:51.460 --> 01:04:54.360
the Buzz Astro Blasters or whatever. like when

01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:55.860
you're waiting in line and there's like Buzz

01:04:55.860 --> 01:04:58.079
talking to you like he wrote a lot of that script

01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:00.059
but I think he did it for the Japanese and not

01:05:00.059 --> 01:05:03.699
for Anaheim but a lot a lot of script dialogue

01:05:03.699 --> 01:05:06.880
stuff and uh when I went to Japan with him when

01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:10.159
I was 15 we used to go in the studio which at

01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:12.059
the time was so boring to me because they're

01:05:12.059 --> 01:05:13.780
just a different culture and they were doing

01:05:13.780 --> 01:05:16.260
all the voiceovers for the animatronics and I

01:05:16.260 --> 01:05:18.219
was just sitting there like oh god this is so

01:05:18.219 --> 01:05:19.780
boring and I couldn't understand anything and

01:05:19.780 --> 01:05:21.599
they would like have them stop and redo the same

01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:25.079
parts I didn't know and Sean, that's Japan that

01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:26.659
you're talking about right there. Yeah. Yeah.

01:05:27.159 --> 01:05:30.099
I just heard, um, Bill Murray was just on, I

01:05:30.099 --> 01:05:32.159
believe Howard Stern, but he was talking about,

01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:35.119
like he likes to go into Japan because their

01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:38.139
society is like so serious. I guess for like,

01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:40.420
they're almost like pennants from World War two.

01:05:40.619 --> 01:05:42.719
Like they're still just like very like serious

01:05:42.719 --> 01:05:45.599
society, but they love when tourists come over

01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:47.579
and have fun. So like they, like when tourists

01:05:47.579 --> 01:05:49.460
come, like they, they actually encourage them

01:05:49.460 --> 01:05:52.619
to like act out and be wacky and just like, Really

01:05:52.619 --> 01:05:55.320
enjoy themselves even though like they kind of

01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:57.760
don't yeah, it's probably why my dad's so popular

01:05:57.760 --> 01:05:59.500
out there because he's he's a big wacky dude

01:05:59.500 --> 01:06:02.820
in Yeah, they're very proper. They're very clean

01:06:02.820 --> 01:06:06.460
But what's crazy is they party they like they

01:06:06.460 --> 01:06:09.019
drink beer like like it's no tomorrow because

01:06:09.019 --> 01:06:11.820
my dad would do a Fasting like a month before

01:06:11.820 --> 01:06:13.719
going there because he said every night after

01:06:13.719 --> 01:06:17.469
their meetings require drinking beer And so I

01:06:17.469 --> 01:06:18.829
went to a few of those meetings. This is when

01:06:18.829 --> 01:06:20.949
I didn't drink, but everyone's just getting sloshed

01:06:20.949 --> 01:06:23.349
and pitchers, pitchers, pitchers for hours. And

01:06:23.349 --> 01:06:25.949
then you go outside and there's Japanese dudes

01:06:25.949 --> 01:06:28.909
in suits just puking in the street. Like, and

01:06:28.909 --> 01:06:30.269
my dad's like, oh, it's normal. And then they

01:06:30.269 --> 01:06:31.690
go to bed and they wake up and then they're like

01:06:31.690 --> 01:06:33.670
back to like business time. And then nighttime,

01:06:33.809 --> 01:06:36.489
they're like, party. And then they repeat. I'm

01:06:36.489 --> 01:06:39.909
just like, wow, like different culture. Yeah.

01:06:40.889 --> 01:06:43.719
That's kind of a good culture. Yeah, but I hopefully

01:06:43.719 --> 01:06:45.940
the answer to question like my dad did that my

01:06:45.940 --> 01:06:48.619
yeah, I'm just trying to give a Backstory of

01:06:48.619 --> 01:06:50.059
what everything is I'm sure there's a lot more

01:06:50.059 --> 01:06:52.699
to it is well That's it's an amazing backstory.

01:06:52.699 --> 01:06:54.519
I mean that's you know, it's what is that four

01:06:54.519 --> 01:06:58.380
generations three? And then my brother like screw

01:06:58.380 --> 01:07:00.119
Disney. We're gonna be musicians and make money

01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:02.460
We're not doing it now. We're like, like, what

01:07:02.460 --> 01:07:04.519
do we do? What do we do? Now you were Nickelodeon.

01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:06.920
So, you know, you went Disney to Nickelodeon.

01:07:07.179 --> 01:07:09.239
So yeah, we did do a Disney pitch, but we didn't

01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:11.179
get it. But I was just like, if I can get a Disney

01:07:11.179 --> 01:07:13.019
pitch, then that'll be four generations. We're

01:07:13.019 --> 01:07:15.760
going to be like, boom. There's a fourth. No,

01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:17.260
they don't care anymore about that. It's all

01:07:17.260 --> 01:07:19.300
this corporate, you know, they're so massive.

01:07:19.460 --> 01:07:20.880
They're just like, who wrote this? All right,

01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:24.000
whatever. Well, that's way different than it

01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:26.280
was, for sure. I mean, just look at that new

01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:30.840
snow white debacle. That was fun. Sean you said

01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:33.760
You said the name of the company was rock -a

01:07:33.760 --> 01:07:35.920
-bye daddy that you got. Yeah, we don't we don't

01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:37.980
really have anything out it was like we started

01:07:37.980 --> 01:07:40.840
it and like Rock -a -bye daddies and then like

01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:43.199
we got this pitch and then we're like We should

01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:45.059
do something with this We just haven't done it

01:07:45.059 --> 01:07:47.199
because Brian's also in all these tributes with

01:07:47.199 --> 01:07:49.019
me So we're constantly like building tributes

01:07:49.019 --> 01:07:51.400
and like getting stuff together and going so

01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:54.360
it's a kind he's got four kids So like young

01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:58.760
kids like talking one to seven and then his wife

01:07:58.760 --> 01:08:00.920
works. So when she's gone, he's just there, like

01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:03.579
Mr. Mom, like I don't, I can't do anything right

01:08:03.579 --> 01:08:06.659
now. So a lot of times if we go to write, I take

01:08:06.659 --> 01:08:09.139
Hopper over there and just put the kids in the

01:08:09.139 --> 01:08:10.699
playroom. All right. Let's try to get something

01:08:10.699 --> 01:08:12.019
down. Like what do you want to come up with?

01:08:12.300 --> 01:08:15.380
And then it's a, we got 10 minutes for watching

01:08:15.380 --> 01:08:18.680
something. Yeah, exactly. Go, go, go. Right.

01:08:20.220 --> 01:08:23.239
Um, so it seems like maybe rock -a -bye daddy

01:08:23.239 --> 01:08:26.060
was started for something else But then once

01:08:26.060 --> 01:08:28.539
you started to like flesh out these song ideas,

01:08:28.659 --> 01:08:30.960
it's like seems to be going into like this sort

01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:33.640
of direction Yeah, I mean like the obvious the

01:08:33.640 --> 01:08:35.899
goal for a lot of like composers is you want

01:08:35.899 --> 01:08:39.680
to get contracts where Like if we got the rock

01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:42.739
of my daddy's scoring card, that's what we wanted

01:08:42.739 --> 01:08:44.840
like we're like you get X amount of dollars and

01:08:44.840 --> 01:08:46.699
then you're getting paid to sit in your own studio

01:08:46.699 --> 01:08:48.640
They send you episodes and like all right. We

01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:50.199
need this kind of vibe at this part So we just

01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:52.180
writing all day to the season we send it back

01:08:52.180 --> 01:08:54.319
and they're like make these tweaks and that's

01:08:54.319 --> 01:08:57.380
our ultimate goal We just so many time and like

01:08:57.380 --> 01:09:00.199
tish the queen of the whole thing. She's like

01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:03.810
just send me write a couple scores to Something

01:09:03.810 --> 01:09:05.630
already done. So like we've talked about like

01:09:05.630 --> 01:09:08.029
let's find something put it on mute and compose

01:09:08.029 --> 01:09:09.770
her own thing to it and what we would have done

01:09:09.770 --> 01:09:12.090
and send it back to her She's I can get you I

01:09:12.090 --> 01:09:14.170
can get you jobs because all her employees they

01:09:14.170 --> 01:09:16.810
just have gigs scoring like children's shows

01:09:16.810 --> 01:09:19.850
and everything else But again, it's just like

01:09:19.850 --> 01:09:22.409
having little kids. It's like there's no time

01:09:22.409 --> 01:09:24.789
for us to like Figure this out right now. And

01:09:24.789 --> 01:09:26.770
it's just yeah, how do you how do you figure

01:09:26.770 --> 01:09:30.449
it out? I mean all different shows. Like if you

01:09:30.449 --> 01:09:32.689
were able to just focus on the one show and kind

01:09:32.689 --> 01:09:34.789
of play it all the time and do that. But when

01:09:34.789 --> 01:09:37.710
you're throwing 900 different things at you,

01:09:37.729 --> 01:09:39.869
it's like, you know, you got to focus on just

01:09:39.869 --> 01:09:42.310
one that one. And the hardest part is a lot of

01:09:42.310 --> 01:09:43.789
times when you do these pitches, you don't get

01:09:43.789 --> 01:09:45.550
paid. You know, it's just like you're hoping

01:09:45.550 --> 01:09:48.569
to get it. And so that's why we made a mark very

01:09:48.569 --> 01:09:50.409
quick. We were two for two, like right out of

01:09:50.409 --> 01:09:51.810
the gate. They're like, so they're like, Oh,

01:09:51.829 --> 01:09:53.710
these guys are everyone else is a Nashville,

01:09:53.810 --> 01:09:56.029
but we're in Utah. So it's like, you know, like,

01:09:56.069 --> 01:09:57.590
Hey, we know what we're doing. We have a studio.

01:09:57.789 --> 01:10:00.649
We're both Artists, you know we create so just

01:10:00.649 --> 01:10:02.970
this more stuff, but she's like that's why we

01:10:02.970 --> 01:10:04.550
want to get a contract So we don't have to like

01:10:04.550 --> 01:10:06.550
be up till three in the morning like all right

01:10:06.550 --> 01:10:08.289
We hope we get this and if you don't get you're

01:10:08.289 --> 01:10:11.470
like like that was a long night of nothing this

01:10:11.470 --> 01:10:14.949
but other than a resume How cool for them to

01:10:14.949 --> 01:10:16.930
have somebody like you that's been in awesome

01:10:16.930 --> 01:10:19.109
rock bands like scoring their stuff It's like

01:10:19.109 --> 01:10:22.029
a notch up for them, you know as far as promotion

01:10:22.029 --> 01:10:25.920
and marketing goes in my eyes like I don't think

01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:27.619
anybody knows that's what I used to do because

01:10:27.619 --> 01:10:30.199
I don't really talk about it. So I think I'd

01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:31.680
rather have them find out about it. And they

01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:33.079
come up to call you to this. And I'm like, yeah,

01:10:33.180 --> 01:10:34.979
that's good. You know, I'm not a guy to talk

01:10:34.979 --> 01:10:37.319
about it. I guess it's true. Seems kind of like

01:10:37.319 --> 01:10:39.720
egotistical in a way in my own opinion. But yeah,

01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:42.500
if it's brought up, I'll talk about it. I figured

01:10:42.500 --> 01:10:44.420
they would just have to know. I mean, the gracious

01:10:44.420 --> 01:10:47.739
few, some candle box stuff. This is what I do

01:10:47.739 --> 01:10:52.939
on the dating apps. Yeah. Um, no, you know, the

01:10:52.939 --> 01:10:55.960
gracious few we were, we were. We were fucking

01:10:55.960 --> 01:10:59.260
tight then like we were tight like we we were

01:10:59.260 --> 01:11:02.300
on Point most of the time I remember I remember

01:11:02.300 --> 01:11:04.859
the show we did in San Francisco when Jerry came

01:11:04.859 --> 01:11:06.439
out and he remember he taped all his lyrics on

01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:08.539
the mic stand there was like all this paper everywhere

01:11:08.539 --> 01:11:11.520
and Carl Carl Durfler and Jerry Harrison came

01:11:11.520 --> 01:11:15.399
out and I had no that was towards the end of

01:11:15.399 --> 01:11:19.380
the end of the show so I was or end of the tour

01:11:19.380 --> 01:11:22.260
so I was like primed and ready. Like I was, I

01:11:22.260 --> 01:11:24.199
was on point with my tone. I knew everything.

01:11:24.380 --> 01:11:26.640
I knew how to, I knew where to go. And I remember

01:11:26.640 --> 01:11:28.539
Chad didn't have a very good, not Chad Grace,

01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:29.899
but Chad Taylor didn't have a very good show.

01:11:30.260 --> 01:11:33.140
And I remember like Jerry and Carl coming up

01:11:33.140 --> 01:11:35.199
to me after the show. And they were like, as,

01:11:35.260 --> 01:11:38.140
as Carl said, you were phenomenal. Yeah. He was

01:11:38.140 --> 01:11:42.220
like, do that voodoo that you do, man. Um, but

01:11:42.220 --> 01:11:43.979
cause, cause I was just on point that night and

01:11:43.979 --> 01:11:46.979
they were very encouraged and excited that because

01:11:46.979 --> 01:11:49.119
they saw some weak sides of me in the studio

01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:50.899
and they, and they got to see it another side

01:11:50.899 --> 01:11:53.239
of me which was that was very encouraging and

01:11:53.239 --> 01:11:55.680
helpful nice to have that feeling and it's still

01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:58.300
stuck with me so at that show did we did we did

01:11:58.300 --> 01:12:01.619
we do something what what songs do we do with

01:12:01.619 --> 01:12:04.199
jerry i think we did a modern lover song i can't

01:12:04.199 --> 01:12:06.359
remember we did two we did two songs with him

01:12:06.359 --> 01:12:09.380
i think one was a modern lovers and maybe one

01:12:09.380 --> 01:12:11.300
was just like a cover i don't remember i just

01:12:11.300 --> 01:12:15.050
remember jerry like taping like sheets of paper

01:12:15.050 --> 01:12:17.229
on the mic stand. It was hilarious. And it was

01:12:17.229 --> 01:12:18.829
just like paper going all the way down at the

01:12:18.829 --> 01:12:24.130
stage. Sean, you also, I don't know if it was

01:12:24.130 --> 01:12:27.130
just a show or a couple, I think you played in

01:12:27.130 --> 01:12:30.529
live when Christian was singing as well. Yeah,

01:12:30.569 --> 01:12:33.649
I did two shows and that was, that was a very

01:12:33.649 --> 01:12:37.109
exciting moment of my life. And I remember Chad

01:12:37.109 --> 01:12:38.890
Taylor was trying to show me the guitar parts

01:12:38.890 --> 01:12:40.770
and well, I already knew the guitar parts as

01:12:40.770 --> 01:12:43.680
much as I knew. And Chad said, out of all the

01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:45.800
guitar players that have played in live, you're

01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:48.699
the only guy that's known the right colorings,

01:12:48.819 --> 01:12:50.619
like how I played them. He's like, people are

01:12:50.619 --> 01:12:51.859
playing them in different positions. Like I just,

01:12:51.880 --> 01:12:53.420
I could hear it. I'm like, this is what he was

01:12:53.420 --> 01:12:55.899
doing. I'm actually in a band called Sludge Judy,

01:12:56.159 --> 01:12:59.140
which is just kind of like a hard rock therapy

01:12:59.140 --> 01:13:00.979
band with all these other really top musicians,

01:13:01.180 --> 01:13:02.960
a couple of guys from Oblis, some friends of

01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:06.680
ours. And we cover I Alone, which is funny because

01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:08.920
I was just like, I was like, I've actually played

01:13:08.920 --> 01:13:11.279
this song with the guys before and live. Hi,

01:13:11.340 --> 01:13:18.779
buddy. Hey, here's my son John and Chad. Hello.

01:13:19.279 --> 01:13:21.739
They're saying hi. You can't hear him. Can you

01:13:21.739 --> 01:13:25.079
see what's up, dudes? I can make faces. Oh, let

01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:30.659
me hear. Hello, Hopper. How are you? Hi. Good

01:13:30.659 --> 01:13:32.880
to see you. Good to see you. It's right. Go get

01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:37.520
grandpa. I'm almost done. OK. Dude, you're going

01:13:37.520 --> 01:13:39.079
to be in trouble. He's going to be a ladies man.

01:13:40.119 --> 01:13:42.579
Yeah. He's already a performer. He's just like

01:13:42.579 --> 01:13:44.619
dad and a director. He's like, just do this.

01:13:45.100 --> 01:13:47.340
Sorry, what were we talking about? I was going

01:13:47.340 --> 01:13:49.659
somewhere with that. Oh, you're playing I Alone

01:13:49.659 --> 01:13:52.159
in the band and the one. Or the playing with

01:13:52.159 --> 01:13:54.939
live, playing with live. Yeah. Yeah, we did two

01:13:54.939 --> 01:13:58.500
shows. We did the one in York, the home show

01:13:58.500 --> 01:14:01.560
with Chris when we all covered our Cheddar with

01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:04.840
baby powder in the backstage wearing black. And

01:14:04.840 --> 01:14:07.479
then we played South by Southwest, which is a

01:14:07.479 --> 01:14:11.140
really fun. moment for me there was these two

01:14:11.140 --> 01:14:14.119
there was these two girls younger like early

01:14:14.119 --> 01:14:16.479
20s that had played South by Southwest and it

01:14:16.479 --> 01:14:20.779
was the gracious few candlebox and live Wow And

01:14:20.779 --> 01:14:23.260
so and I was on the same side for all three shows

01:14:23.260 --> 01:14:25.699
so we played gracious few we'd like a 45 minute

01:14:25.699 --> 01:14:27.279
set then was like, you know a 30 minute break

01:14:27.279 --> 01:14:29.479
and the candlebox came out and I came back out

01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:31.439
and these girls are like you're this bad too

01:14:31.439 --> 01:14:35.199
You're the only one that did all three all three

01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:38.119
sets, right? Yeah, did I freeze by the way? I'm

01:14:38.119 --> 01:14:40.640
frozen Oh, you're good. All right. You're working.

01:14:41.020 --> 01:14:44.479
And then we go out, we leave the stage and we

01:14:44.479 --> 01:14:46.979
come back out for live. And the two girls in

01:14:46.979 --> 01:14:49.060
front of me were like, how many fucking bands

01:14:49.060 --> 01:14:52.100
are you in, man? That was a really funny moment

01:14:52.100 --> 01:14:56.359
for me to have. But yeah, that had to feel frozen.

01:14:57.159 --> 01:14:59.659
Yeah, that era of time was probably my prime

01:14:59.659 --> 01:15:03.439
as a guitar player for tone. And just I was just

01:15:03.439 --> 01:15:07.699
playing so much all the time that I was i was

01:15:07.699 --> 01:15:09.340
so much better i'm not as good as i was because

01:15:09.340 --> 01:15:11.699
i don't play like that i don't tour so if you

01:15:11.699 --> 01:15:15.579
play every day that's three bands of music in

01:15:15.579 --> 01:15:17.920
your brain that you have to perform in one night

01:15:17.920 --> 01:15:21.159
like that oh yeah i love it i i've always had

01:15:21.159 --> 01:15:25.239
i've always had a capacity to memorize songs

01:15:25.239 --> 01:15:27.220
i could probably play 500 songs right now by

01:15:27.220 --> 01:15:29.359
memory just like if you just name them out i

01:15:29.359 --> 01:15:31.260
could play them just because it just sits there

01:15:31.600 --> 01:15:34.500
Is it so safe for a night like that? Are you

01:15:34.500 --> 01:15:37.140
kind of going through and like you're like playing

01:15:37.140 --> 01:15:39.680
the song from start to finish kind of how you

01:15:39.680 --> 01:15:42.260
learned it? Or is it like at times during it,

01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:46.460
you maybe have to go off script or off like the

01:15:46.460 --> 01:15:48.800
music or something to because you forgot something

01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:50.680
and you need to kind of fill in or whatever.

01:15:51.560 --> 01:15:54.220
At that point, I just knew it. I knew where to

01:15:54.220 --> 01:15:56.420
go. I knew when I wanted to throw in a riff here

01:15:56.420 --> 01:15:57.760
and there, because I'm like, ah, like, there's

01:15:57.760 --> 01:15:59.760
a space here. There's no vocals. There's a spot

01:15:59.760 --> 01:16:01.659
where I can go, wham, wham, and just throw it

01:16:01.659 --> 01:16:05.140
out, throw it away. But a good trick is if you

01:16:05.140 --> 01:16:07.359
flub something or you get lost as, like, a pick

01:16:07.359 --> 01:16:09.779
scrape, you know, it's like a, brrrraaow. Or

01:16:09.779 --> 01:16:11.000
like, you're like, all right, where am I? Where

01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:13.460
am I? Like, I mean, just actions are like, you

01:16:13.460 --> 01:16:15.460
know, kind of jack off on the guitar. I do like

01:16:15.460 --> 01:16:16.960
the noodling. I'm like, wham, wham, wham, wham.

01:16:17.100 --> 01:16:20.359
I'm going to an A chord. Here we go. or there

01:16:20.359 --> 01:16:22.260
was times a trick that I used to do with Candlebox

01:16:22.260 --> 01:16:24.779
that if I couldn't suddenly, cause there would

01:16:24.779 --> 01:16:26.119
be brain farts. Something used to be like, I

01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:27.720
don't remember what chord I'm going to do. I

01:16:27.720 --> 01:16:30.460
would either drop down and like play with my

01:16:30.460 --> 01:16:32.020
pedal board. Like something was wrong. So the

01:16:32.020 --> 01:16:33.140
band looked over there like, Oh, something's

01:16:33.140 --> 01:16:34.840
wrong with his pedal board. Or I'd go back to

01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:37.060
my amp and like mess with it, which would freak

01:16:37.060 --> 01:16:38.420
out the text. They'd run out there because everything's

01:16:38.420 --> 01:16:39.479
okay. I'm like, everything's fine. I'm just,

01:16:39.779 --> 01:16:41.279
I'm trying to figure out what the hell I'm at

01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:44.399
right now. And then, but that way it's a performance.

01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:45.819
So it's not like, you know, cause you see guys

01:16:45.819 --> 01:16:48.170
on stage. I remember seeing Weezer. the Brian,

01:16:48.310 --> 01:16:50.689
the lead guitar player, he threw a hissy thing

01:16:50.689 --> 01:16:52.050
on stage because something was wrong. I was like,

01:16:52.090 --> 01:16:54.569
don't ever do that. Like, no, just, just like,

01:16:54.810 --> 01:16:56.470
just pull it out. There was times where I would

01:16:56.470 --> 01:16:58.390
just hold my hands up in the air and look at

01:16:58.390 --> 01:17:00.810
the crowd, like, something's wrong. Like, I just

01:17:00.810 --> 01:17:03.210
found my control at this moment and no one cares.

01:17:03.430 --> 01:17:05.770
They rather see you having fun that if something

01:17:05.770 --> 01:17:07.270
goes wrong, instead of being an asshole. And

01:17:07.270 --> 01:17:10.590
I learned that very early on because I played

01:17:10.590 --> 01:17:14.829
with. rock stars from like 19 and on. So I got

01:17:14.829 --> 01:17:16.869
to see like, don't do that, do that, don't do

01:17:16.869 --> 01:17:18.789
that, don't do that. And it's kind of molded

01:17:18.789 --> 01:17:21.390
me to be kind of a, I mean, I like to say humble,

01:17:21.569 --> 01:17:23.789
but like just a good person to like work with

01:17:23.789 --> 01:17:25.609
and hang out with because I don't want to be

01:17:25.609 --> 01:17:28.369
an asshole. Yeah, well -rounded. So most of the

01:17:28.369 --> 01:17:30.050
time with that stuff, the audience either doesn't

01:17:30.050 --> 01:17:32.409
notice or they kind of like seeing that. They're

01:17:32.409 --> 01:17:35.710
like, oh, shit. So they're not robots. They mess

01:17:35.710 --> 01:17:38.250
up some time. And I like. when there's errors

01:17:38.250 --> 01:17:40.770
on stage. I like when I can hear a flub because

01:17:40.770 --> 01:17:44.329
I'm like, you are human. I've seen the Kings

01:17:44.329 --> 01:17:46.409
of Leon a couple of times and it's so boring.

01:17:46.569 --> 01:17:48.250
I love the Kings of Leon. I saw them before they

01:17:48.250 --> 01:17:51.630
became who they were and they didn't move a lot.

01:17:51.770 --> 01:17:54.090
But like before they became who they are, they

01:17:54.090 --> 01:17:56.229
were more like hillbilly rock and roll. They

01:17:56.229 --> 01:17:59.050
were sloppy and things were like, but then as

01:17:59.050 --> 01:18:00.810
they got polished and they got all their reverb

01:18:00.810 --> 01:18:02.470
and their sound that became the Kings of Leon.

01:18:02.970 --> 01:18:05.010
I would go see them and I would just sit down.

01:18:05.289 --> 01:18:06.689
And even if everybody was standing, I was like,

01:18:06.770 --> 01:18:13.869
they're just Oh, we lost them. It literally,

01:18:13.869 --> 01:18:16.670
it literally cut. He's not even in the green

01:18:16.670 --> 01:18:20.890
room. I'm guessing either whatever he was on

01:18:20.890 --> 01:18:26.930
died. Oh, he's back. Sweet. Hold on there, folks.

01:18:28.130 --> 01:18:31.050
There we go. Okay. Sorry. I don't know what happened

01:18:31.050 --> 01:18:33.829
there. Me either. We are like you're on a device

01:18:33.829 --> 01:18:36.109
that died. We're like, Oh, no. No, I'm plugged

01:18:36.109 --> 01:18:39.569
in directly into my Wi -Fi. I'm not on Wi -Fi

01:18:39.569 --> 01:18:41.470
just in case. So I don't know what happened.

01:18:42.090 --> 01:18:45.409
You didn't pull any plugs. Did you, buddy? It's

01:18:45.409 --> 01:18:48.489
like, he's like, dad, we need you. He's like,

01:18:48.569 --> 01:18:52.489
yeah, dad. Yeah. Well, so the way we do the good,

01:18:52.670 --> 01:18:54.329
good. Yeah. Yeah. That's all. That's all. I don't

01:18:54.329 --> 01:18:56.270
know what I was talking about because I got distracted.

01:18:56.569 --> 01:18:58.689
Well, I wanted to say, uh, the way we always

01:18:58.689 --> 01:19:01.109
do this is we introduce the audience to the guests

01:19:01.109 --> 01:19:03.289
and we leave them wanting more. And for sure,

01:19:03.430 --> 01:19:05.829
we just literally scratch the surface with, uh,

01:19:05.949 --> 01:19:07.909
with all the stuff you got going on. So we'd

01:19:07.909 --> 01:19:10.369
love to have you back on in the future. Uh, for

01:19:10.369 --> 01:19:12.890
sure. Rock on. Would you like to tell the audience

01:19:12.890 --> 01:19:14.750
where they could find some of your stuff on social

01:19:14.750 --> 01:19:18.069
media? And, uh, I think super duper bunny league

01:19:18.069 --> 01:19:21.220
is coming out April 19th. I'm not sure. But I

01:19:21.220 --> 01:19:23.060
think yeah super duper buddy league is coming

01:19:23.060 --> 01:19:25.239
out of paramount plus. I believe april 19 It's

01:19:25.239 --> 01:19:27.380
on youtube right now, but go click on it because

01:19:27.380 --> 01:19:29.159
that gives me like a half a cent to split with

01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:32.220
my songwriting partner But yeah, super duper

01:19:32.220 --> 01:19:34.239
buddy league is on Nickelodeon paramount plus

01:19:34.239 --> 01:19:37.500
keep an eye out for the spongebob Record I think

01:19:37.500 --> 01:19:39.659
it's coming out this summer for their 25th anniversary

01:19:39.659 --> 01:19:43.979
or something And then Social media is it's all

01:19:43.979 --> 01:19:46.520
Memphis Hennessy. That's where you can find him.

01:19:46.579 --> 01:19:49.359
My real name's Sean. You guys know that but in

01:19:49.359 --> 01:19:51.220
the rock world I've just gone with Memphis because

01:19:51.220 --> 01:19:53.800
people can remember me but I make stupid videos

01:19:53.800 --> 01:19:57.000
and I like that fun and I play music and I'm

01:19:57.000 --> 01:20:00.859
just a big goofball. We call him the kid when

01:20:00.859 --> 01:20:03.939
he was in the gracious field. In fact, you're

01:20:03.939 --> 01:20:06.399
still on my phone as the kid so I'll take it.

01:20:06.649 --> 01:20:08.970
I'll take it. Hey, thanks for having me on now.

01:20:09.010 --> 01:20:10.189
This was fun. I think this was my first, like,

01:20:10.229 --> 01:20:11.890
real podcast where I was, like, excited to get

01:20:11.890 --> 01:20:13.770
on. Like, oh, this is fun because, like, I know

01:20:13.770 --> 01:20:16.069
people and we can just chit -chat. Yeah. Well,

01:20:16.069 --> 01:20:17.550
thank you for coming on. I really appreciate

01:20:17.550 --> 01:20:19.149
it. We appreciate it. Yeah, of course. Great,

01:20:19.329 --> 01:20:20.810
dude. Awesome. And then is there a way, like,

01:20:20.949 --> 01:20:23.829
after this, can I go back and see these? I see

01:20:23.829 --> 01:20:25.890
some of these quotes happening, but I haven't

01:20:25.890 --> 01:20:28.090
seen them all. Can I go back and, like, answer

01:20:28.090 --> 01:20:31.630
them or...? Yeah, so the way it goes, the...

01:20:31.630 --> 01:20:33.869
We have a super chat that we can see on our end

01:20:33.869 --> 01:20:36.729
that goes from like rumble to Instagram, to Facebook

01:20:36.729 --> 01:20:38.329
and stuff. But most of the comments you're seeing

01:20:38.329 --> 01:20:40.729
are probably from Facebook. So if you go to the

01:20:40.729 --> 01:20:43.090
gracious to Facebook or Chad's Facebook, all

01:20:43.090 --> 01:20:45.210
the comments should be there. Okay. Awesome.

01:20:45.750 --> 01:20:49.890
Hey, you. Hey, we're giving it back. Yeah. Do

01:20:49.890 --> 01:20:52.970
you want to say bye everyone? Bye Hopper. Thank

01:20:52.970 --> 01:20:57.550
you for your dad for a little bit. Rock and roll.

01:20:57.970 --> 01:21:11.309
Thank you so much. Yeah. Thank you so much. The

01:21:11.309 --> 01:21:14.390
one and only Sean Memphis with his awesome kid

01:21:14.390 --> 01:21:17.510
hopper right there. That was cool. Yeah, very

01:21:17.510 --> 01:21:20.609
cool. Well, I love the way he when he was getting

01:21:20.609 --> 01:21:23.229
into the you guys recording the gracious few

01:21:23.229 --> 01:21:26.409
album how he like was like he almost brought

01:21:26.409 --> 01:21:29.909
us right into that moment. Yeah, which was very

01:21:29.909 --> 01:21:32.789
cool. Um, so that was dope, uh, that he's got

01:21:32.789 --> 01:21:35.489
a memory like that. You were probably like, Hey

01:21:35.489 --> 01:21:38.649
now, probably brought you right back. Well, it's

01:21:38.649 --> 01:21:40.430
cool. He's just talking about stuff that I didn't

01:21:40.430 --> 01:21:43.329
even see because I would, I cut, you know, the

01:21:43.329 --> 01:21:46.289
way we cut that record is I come in, we all come

01:21:46.289 --> 01:21:49.409
in, we play live together. I just mainly kind

01:21:49.409 --> 01:21:51.210
of get the drums, but try to get as much as we

01:21:51.210 --> 01:21:54.569
could in that, in that take. And then I would,

01:21:54.750 --> 01:21:59.010
you know, like I said, I had my Phoenix was we

01:21:59.010 --> 01:22:02.130
had Phoenix. And 10 days later, we were in the

01:22:02.130 --> 01:22:04.630
studio making the gracious few record. Oh, wow.

01:22:04.930 --> 01:22:08.329
And credit to my, uh, my ex for doing that because

01:22:08.329 --> 01:22:12.310
it was tough. And so it was literally 10 days

01:22:12.310 --> 01:22:14.550
old when we got to the studio. And no excuse

01:22:14.550 --> 01:22:16.470
for you to be a little bit stressed there, maybe

01:22:16.470 --> 01:22:18.310
a little bit short. Huh? They wouldn't. Yeah.

01:22:18.329 --> 01:22:20.350
It was kind of funny. It was kind of funny. Like

01:22:20.350 --> 01:22:22.350
they all sat me down. They wanted to talk to

01:22:22.350 --> 01:22:24.430
me. I'm like, are we serious right now? Like

01:22:24.430 --> 01:22:27.970
my father just passed. My kid is 10 days old.

01:22:28.310 --> 01:22:31.569
Like, right. And I'm dealing with my ex who had

01:22:31.569 --> 01:22:33.569
post, no, a little bit of post -partum depression.

01:22:33.890 --> 01:22:36.590
I'm like, like, give me a little slack here,

01:22:36.630 --> 01:22:39.550
man. Yeah, please. Don't, and especially like

01:22:39.550 --> 01:22:41.489
that's adding to it. Cause then now I'm like,

01:22:41.569 --> 01:22:43.350
that would piss me off. Like, dude, I'm going

01:22:43.350 --> 01:22:45.170
through this and okay, maybe I'm a little, my

01:22:45.170 --> 01:22:47.229
attitude is not the best, but now this fuck off.

01:22:47.310 --> 01:22:48.789
Yeah. You got to have a sit down with me. I'm

01:22:48.789 --> 01:22:51.590
like, yeah. Fucking price. Okay. Like whatever.

01:22:51.890 --> 01:22:53.750
I don't even know what our rush was. So even

01:22:53.750 --> 01:22:58.000
one, you know, talking. Back back way back when

01:22:58.000 --> 01:22:59.819
talking to chat about it's like why the fuck

01:22:59.819 --> 01:23:02.739
did we Like what were we doing? Why do we like

01:23:02.739 --> 01:23:04.600
have to get in the studio and make that record

01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:06.680
10 days after Phoenix was born like what the

01:23:06.680 --> 01:23:10.039
fuck? Yeah, then anyway Well, maybe I mean because

01:23:10.039 --> 01:23:12.380
that album really was fucking killer like I don't

01:23:12.380 --> 01:23:14.840
know if it was just ideas you guys had that needed

01:23:14.840 --> 01:23:18.079
to get out or something But I wonder oh no that

01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:20.439
that that whole record was pent up fucking energy

01:23:20.439 --> 01:23:24.000
from Playing just ed songs for the yeah, you

01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:25.960
know, what is their four records or five records?

01:23:26.100 --> 01:23:27.819
You're like we want to rock again like yeah,

01:23:27.819 --> 01:23:30.000
you know, I don't want to sit here and have to

01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:32.979
play Oh, here's the song. This is the arrangement

01:23:32.979 --> 01:23:35.319
and just sit down and play your drums to it like

01:23:35.319 --> 01:23:40.880
Yeah, it's getting a room in rock again like

01:23:40.880 --> 01:23:43.239
come on that was that's what Chad Patrick and

01:23:43.239 --> 01:23:45.300
I wanted to do you know brought in Kevin and

01:23:45.300 --> 01:23:47.560
Sean But like I said the stuff that he was talking

01:23:47.560 --> 01:23:49.340
about stuff that I really didn't get the witness

01:23:49.340 --> 01:23:52.859
because I wasn't in the room. Yeah. So anyway,

01:23:53.020 --> 01:23:55.380
it was, yeah, it was fun. That was great. We

01:23:55.380 --> 01:23:56.859
have to have him again to tell more stories.

01:23:57.119 --> 01:24:00.039
For sure. He, uh, loved the way he spoke about

01:24:00.039 --> 01:24:03.260
things and just the, the, um, all the stuff with

01:24:03.260 --> 01:24:05.319
his grandfather and father, like that's a lot.

01:24:05.560 --> 01:24:07.399
Like, could you imagine just going on like Disney

01:24:07.399 --> 01:24:10.079
plus and then like one of the thumbnails, like

01:24:10.079 --> 01:24:11.979
for episode three, your father's there and it's

01:24:11.979 --> 01:24:16.619
like, Oh, that's cool. Um, yeah. And then if

01:24:16.619 --> 01:24:18.180
I was him, I would just tell people, you know,

01:24:18.359 --> 01:24:20.319
Hennessy, the whiskey or cognac, whatever it

01:24:20.319 --> 01:24:22.920
is, I'm from that family. So you probably want

01:24:22.920 --> 01:24:27.140
my music and SpongeBob. Uh, but any who let's,

01:24:27.180 --> 01:24:28.960
uh, let Bobby say goodbye to the audience real

01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:31.359
quick. And then we shall bid them adieu. And

01:24:31.359 --> 01:24:34.460
I think be back Sunday. Yes. We're coming back

01:24:34.460 --> 01:24:37.079
Sunday. Uh, we have the, what are they called?

01:24:37.199 --> 01:24:41.800
So, so, so Cal spirit. Seekers, so Cal spirits,

01:24:42.079 --> 01:24:44.140
seekers, I believe we call our ghost hunter.

01:24:44.539 --> 01:24:47.199
a pair of ghost hunting women from uh, orange

01:24:47.199 --> 01:24:50.039
county that I found on uh, on instagram and so

01:24:50.039 --> 01:24:52.159
I was like, hey, come on the podcast and then

01:24:52.159 --> 01:24:55.619
I think they want to take me on a uh, on a, what

01:24:55.619 --> 01:24:57.020
do they, whatever they call it, where they go

01:24:57.020 --> 01:24:58.760
and try to hunt, find ghosts. I'm like, okay,

01:24:58.819 --> 01:25:01.100
I'll go. Yeah. Like a spirit walker, something

01:25:01.100 --> 01:25:03.979
you're way braver than I am. Um, an investigation.

01:25:04.439 --> 01:25:06.479
That's what they call an investigation. Paranormal

01:25:06.479 --> 01:25:10.539
investigation with mr. Gracie. Make sure you

01:25:10.539 --> 01:25:13.539
bring your, uh, your proton. Yes. Who are you

01:25:13.539 --> 01:25:17.340
going to call? All right, Bobby, let the audience

01:25:17.340 --> 01:25:19.760
know that you love them and you shall see them

01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:26.720
some other day. Yes. The one and only Bobby folks.

01:25:26.979 --> 01:25:31.500
Yes. Yes. Yes. What a great show, dude. Not that

01:25:31.500 --> 01:25:33.199
we don't love all our guests, but guests, you

01:25:33.199 --> 01:25:35.140
know, that just keeps getting cool and cool and

01:25:35.140 --> 01:25:38.699
cool. So fun, fun, fun. And we shall see you

01:25:38.699 --> 01:25:42.619
Sunday for this ghost hunter thing. But yeah,

01:25:42.779 --> 01:25:44.359
I'm going to be a little spooked out. I might

01:25:44.359 --> 01:25:47.039
be in the dark, really get into the setting here

01:25:47.039 --> 01:25:51.779
and be lit in candle lights. Probably not. But

01:25:51.779 --> 01:25:54.640
we'll see. Thank you gracious audience. Please

01:25:54.640 --> 01:25:58.220
like, share, subscribe, follow all that jazz.

01:25:58.739 --> 01:26:01.479
Sharing is the most important. Sharing is caring,

01:26:01.699 --> 01:26:07.670
folks. I'm going to go black screen, Chad. All

01:26:07.670 --> 01:26:08.489
right, cool. Later.